The stats also have to do with type availability for sure. An INTP man would be a LOT more likely to find an ESFP bronze pair, as they are relatively common, whereas INTJ women are extremely rare. Conversely, an ESFJ man is less likely to be in a bronze pair relationship, but more likely to be in a gold or silver one, for the same reasons.
It would kind of make sense for pedagogue to be the best since improvement breeds quality of life, and this relationship is about improving each other, I’d have to agree.
I think Dario Nardi's subtypes play into this, and maybe sides of the mind focus can also play a role, for example, creative subtypes might tend to be attracted to normalizing sybtypes, to balance themselves out, or a ENFP focused INFJ might tend to be better matched with a INFJ focused ENFP, personally I think I'm an INTJ creative subtype and I tend to match well with other creative types, or types with extroverted intuition, depending on how everything lines up, that being said, my absolute worst relationship was with an INTP and my best was with an ENTP
Finally finished the lecture…holy fk thanks for sharing publicly. Also Thanks for the reminder on how damn far behind I am intellectually in the field. 😂🎉 & now I’m hangrier! 😅
In socionics, the "Enigma" relationship refers to the interaction between two people who belong to the same "type of information metabolism" (TIM), meaning they process information in a very similar way, often leading to a sense of deep understanding but also potential stagnation due to a lack of complementary perspectives.
With silver relationship I was still young and going through career changes after college and then her mother became overbearing and controlling and that triggered a core insecurity so I got the hell out but that was my own personal reflection because I had her loyalty and I know who she was. I just couldn't accept that she wasn't as open about it and forthright with it like I would have been to her. Oh that fear of commitment of choice but wait who am I what do I want is this right I'm still young there's so many opportunities Don't settle. In retrospect you move forward too I have some crazy wild experiences only two.
As an Ni hero (INFJ), I wish I had known earlier how accurately me initiating will determine how good the relationship is. All my relationships with Se users have been complete disasters. An ENTP woman really is the only good option for me.
INFJ male (29 yrs old). I strongly dislike the lack of Fi (introverted feeling) in ENTP females. No subtance or character. Moreover, their lack of Fi (introverted feeling), along with their Fe child and Ne hero, cause them to seek to be liked by everyone. Therefore, being deceitful (or withholding information they view as damaging their appeal to others) is the norm for ENTPs. It takes an extremely disciplined and mature ENTP to develop Ti parent (repsonsibility with the truth). Once an ENTP female develops Ti parent (if that ever takes place), she will not find the Ti child in an INFJ male appealing. She will view herself as dealing with a child (Ti child), basically. She will naturally seek Te users, which is a function you can't provide as an INFJ very well. (Her Ti function seeks to be evaluated by Te users) ENFP females are also... problematic for me. I don't see them as intelligent, very selfish (Fi + Si inferior), can't connect intellectually at any depth. Both types are Si inferior, which means they hate investing effort into others, naturally. Yeah... Maybe ESTJ female? (bronze) (I find them lacking feminity often trying to play the masculine role, and I dislike the concrete vs abstract difference) Where to go for INFJ male?
@sonny7159 as an INFJ male I can confirm that what you state for both the ENTP and ENFP women is true, the ENFP woman was the worst since that type is known for.having the largest amounts of narcissists, dont let them take your peace.
You said in another video that intps tend to marry intjs and not esfps. In this one you said bronze pairs constitute 7 out of 10 marriages. Are intps-intjs an exception to this rule or is it just external factors such as intps tending to not be on the same environments as their bronze pair?
Play is human natures greatest way to learn outside of necessity. If you can't play or you won't learn and you can't grow. I think a lot of people seek this dynamic that's consistent and that's the furthest from the truth maybe certain types or people whatever you want to call it are comfortable there and then again I think there's some that aren't.
I was also into superego relationship not really but tried but we could never communicate or I would never speak as an isfp male because I have never felt accepted by intp woman it was insane and felt truamatizing the most as an ISFP male...
In this exemple for ENFP why did you drop ESFP and ISFP what did you call this thwo relationship because there is also sexual compatibility with this two type. 🌼🌼🌼
So based on what I've gathered from your videos: Golden Pair: Joy, Passion, & Intensity Silver Pair: Respect Bronze Pair: Acceptance & Love Is this correct?
As you’ve said in a previous video, polarity is the most important thing. This isfj girl potentially trumps my enfp golden pair compatible nurture woman because of how womanly she is. And it’s not just because she is an isfj, polarity is largely affected by nurture.
SJ women are the most attractive females because they are naturals. ENFP females (NP females in general, perhaps apart from INTP) suck at the womanly role, as they are "permanent spoiled children." I have never witnessed an ENFP female I was ever interested in. I've lived on two different continents. ENTP females always showed interest, but I found them unworthy of investment (promiscuity and deceitful nature). INFJ male
@@susmateja Extraverted sensing is considered a masculine function. Additionally being pragmatic is also considered masculine. My personal ranking from most masculine to most feminine: XSTP's XNTJ's XSFP's XNFJ's XSTJ's XNFP's XNTP's XSFJ's
Id say thats mostly accurate but for example there is not a lot of a jump between SFP n NFJ, imo there are three distinct groups masculity wise Alpha STP NTJ Beta SFP NFJ STJ Omega NFP NTP SFJ
Oh the ex was no emotional compatibility.. now the woman in my dreams was the pedagogue that makes me kind of wonder who was the woman I spent seven years with in my twenties after college she was the silver
Pedagogue relationship means perception functions match (sexual compatibility) and no emotional compatibility, for example enfj&intp, isfj&estp It has nothing to do with the position of functions
I don't know You have responsibilities and maturity but then again my perspective on a happy healthy relationship is you also have to be kids at play it's that simple
Okay my preference is pedagogue but I've been in benefactor actually I think I've been in the all. But honestly if I have a personal choice I'd like to be in a pedagogue not we're just I teach them but they teach me I mean what more to there is in life.. ... ? Possibly honest sex is a very important part of a healthy relationship but not just sex all of it The whole big picture and then I wonder how all these aspects of relations play out within the segment of a person's life as they mature and integrate or reverse disintegrate or stay stagnant
I remember him stating something akin to being a net positive bcs while others can know where to struck, you know where to defend. And ofc the whole thing about you only being able to love ppl when you truly understand them. Also changes in education taking into acxount how different types learn, better economy productivity by assigning the right types to the right spots and so on
I have something not nice to say. Sorry in advance. How can we trust your dating advice when you had so many failed relationships? Unfortunately, because there are so many variables to the issue of compatability, many of them probably unknown, its not responsible taking advise that doesn't have a success story behind it. Its more likely that you didn't got the full picture figured out and therefore give incomplete input. Classic infp "cite your sources" I guess?
@@CSJosephYou can definitely learn from success. How do you think champion fighters learned their craft? From accomplished coaches. A lineage of champion fighters is now being created in Dagestan as we speak... Complete nonsense. In fact, the guild system of Medieval Europe is nothing other learning from success. Apprenticeship under a master is nothing other than learning from success. One learns from mistakes... But, to claim it's the only way to learn is a complete lie, self-evidently. By the way, taking direct advice from someone who wasn't able to turn his mistakes into victories... isn't wise... it's following a fool. But, you can look at this mistake-ridden person to know what not to do! Conclusion: track records mean alot. --- One's personal journey of self-correcting mistakes under the tutelage of a successful master is NOT the same as taking advice from a master who never had success. Self-evidently. Track records mean alot. It means a person can advise someone on what to do, and not merely "what not to do." What a difference.
In the context of dating, a "quartet" refers to a group of four people who are all romantically involved with each other, essentially a "four-way" relationship, often used within the polyamory community where people may have multiple partners simultaneously; similar to how a "triad" describes a group of three in a romantic relationship.
Necessity is the mother of all means" means that when a situation requires something desperately, people will find a way to achieve it, even if it means using unconventional or creative methods; essentially, a strong need forces people to come up with solutions, no matter what it takes.... That said it's all a matter of what we are seeking. And from a different point of view you ever read where it says don't date the people you're drawn to date the people that you aren't drawn to spend the time to get to know them and retrospect we love others while we love in ourselves. We also hate in others what we hate in ourselves. The question is what point of the journey are you on
In socionics, the "Enigma" relationship refers to the interaction between two people who belong to the same "type of information metabolism" (TIM), meaning they process information in a very similar way, often leading to a sense of deep understanding but also potential stagnation due to a lack of complementary perspectives.
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The stats also have to do with type availability for sure. An INTP man would be a LOT more likely to find an ESFP bronze pair, as they are relatively common, whereas INTJ women are extremely rare. Conversely, an ESFJ man is less likely to be in a bronze pair relationship, but more likely to be in a gold or silver one, for the same reasons.
I’m fasting and I can hear you eating in my ear. Aaaaaggghhhhh!
@@JoannaMarie-x7c not eating isn't fasting🍔✋🏿🎒💔❤
We need a love is blind episode
It would kind of make sense for pedagogue to be the best since improvement breeds quality of life, and this relationship is about improving each other, I’d have to agree.
Is there some sort of psychological/freudian/jungian reason why I can't find types other than INFP attractive as an ISTP?
Interesting.
I also find INFPs to be the most attractive but Im ENTJ so..
@@piotrnogas8448 You love Ti angel?
Strange 🤔@@RaffertyMBTI
@@RaffertyMBTI its more like generic attraction toward them kind of a thing
Well it's ur complete opposite at least upside down❤
I think Dario Nardi's subtypes play into this, and maybe sides of the mind focus can also play a role, for example, creative subtypes might tend to be attracted to normalizing sybtypes, to balance themselves out, or a ENFP focused INFJ might tend to be better matched with a INFJ focused ENFP, personally I think I'm an INTJ creative subtype and I tend to match well with other creative types, or types with extroverted intuition, depending on how everything lines up, that being said, my absolute worst relationship was with an INTP and my best was with an ENTP
Finally finished the lecture…holy fk thanks for sharing publicly. Also Thanks for the reminder on how damn far behind I am intellectually in the field. 😂🎉 & now I’m hangrier! 😅
I'm living a very happy life with my isfp. It surprises me how good it is ❤🎉 (I'm infp)
So golden pair has the potential to be the best, but the bronze is safer.
What does he mean with "COMPETITION Within the mind" 12:50..?
I have a hard time seeing competition between ISFP & INTP…
In socionics, the "Enigma" relationship refers to the interaction between two people who belong to the same "type of information metabolism" (TIM), meaning they process information in a very similar way, often leading to a sense of deep understanding but also potential stagnation due to a lack of complementary perspectives.
With silver relationship I was still young and going through career changes after college and then her mother became overbearing and controlling and that triggered a core insecurity so I got the hell out but that was my own personal reflection because I had her loyalty and I know who she was. I just couldn't accept that she wasn't as open about it and forthright with it like I would have been to her. Oh that fear of commitment of choice but wait who am I what do I want is this right I'm still young there's so many opportunities Don't settle. In retrospect you move forward too I have some crazy wild experiences only two.
Well I guess it's good to know I've been through all of these and guess that holds light for the future
Did someone slow down the cadence 😂 not normal talking speed or is it just me? Might be sick. What’s going on lol
How would you rank pairs at the end if we take development and focus into consideration?
Chase, would you still order these relationships like in 2020?
No
Well, him and railgun broke up and he's now with his bronze pair IIRC, so maybe he changed his opinion.
Jury is still out
As men, it’s best to have all of these all at once.
Does someone know what the padagogue pair would be to the ISTP?
Thanks for making this public chase!
ESFJ
@@piotrnogas8448spasiba
As an Ni hero (INFJ), I wish I had known earlier how accurately me initiating will determine how good the relationship is. All my relationships with Se users have been complete disasters. An ENTP woman really is the only good option for me.
Why so?
INFJ male (29 yrs old).
I strongly dislike the lack of Fi (introverted feeling) in ENTP females.
No subtance or character.
Moreover, their lack of Fi (introverted feeling), along with their Fe child and Ne hero, cause them to seek to be liked by everyone. Therefore, being deceitful (or withholding information they view as damaging their appeal to others) is the norm for ENTPs.
It takes an extremely disciplined and mature ENTP to develop Ti parent (repsonsibility with the truth).
Once an ENTP female develops Ti parent (if that ever takes place), she will not find the Ti child in an INFJ male appealing. She will view herself as dealing with a child (Ti child), basically.
She will naturally seek Te users, which is a function you can't provide as an INFJ very well. (Her Ti function seeks to be evaluated by Te users)
ENFP females are also... problematic for me. I don't see them as intelligent, very selfish (Fi + Si inferior), can't connect intellectually at any depth.
Both types are Si inferior, which means they hate investing effort into others, naturally.
Yeah... Maybe ESTJ female? (bronze) (I find them lacking feminity often trying to play the masculine role, and I dislike the concrete vs abstract difference)
Where to go for INFJ male?
@sonny7159 u can go anywhere but ur just not strong competent responsible wise or loving enough❤
@sonny7159 as an INFJ male I can confirm that what you state for both the ENTP and ENFP women is true, the ENFP woman was the worst since that type is known for.having the largest amounts of narcissists, dont let them take your peace.
Have a bunch of women, of all different types, no type off the table, I’ve loved pretty infj women as an infj.
I ran from the silver I was too young and scared
You said in another video that intps tend to marry intjs and not esfps. In this one you said bronze pairs constitute 7 out of 10 marriages.
Are intps-intjs an exception to this rule or is it just external factors such as intps tending to not be on the same environments as their bronze pair?
There are exceptions. Benefactor happens a lot between INFPs and INTJs, with a real obsession for the other. Intense stuff.
Play is human natures greatest way to learn outside of necessity. If you can't play or you won't learn and you can't grow. I think a lot of people seek this dynamic that's consistent and that's the furthest from the truth maybe certain types or people whatever you want to call it are comfortable there and then again I think there's some that aren't.
I was also into superego relationship not really but tried but we could never communicate or I would never speak as an isfp male because I have never felt accepted by intp woman it was insane and felt truamatizing the most as an ISFP male...
In this exemple for ENFP why did you drop ESFP and ISFP what did you call this thwo relationship because there is also sexual compatibility with this two type. 🌼🌼🌼
So based on what I've gathered from your videos:
Golden Pair: Joy, Passion, & Intensity
Silver Pair: Respect
Bronze Pair: Acceptance & Love
Is this correct?
so you said padagogue is the best for sex so ESTJ for ISFPS?
Emotional compatibilities when the judgment functions line up in the head
Detached bliss versus enlightened chaos what do you seek
As you’ve said in a previous video, polarity is the most important thing. This isfj girl potentially trumps my enfp golden pair compatible nurture woman because of how womanly she is. And it’s not just because she is an isfj, polarity is largely affected by nurture.
SJ women are the most attractive females because they are naturals.
ENFP females (NP females in general, perhaps apart from INTP) suck at the womanly role, as they are "permanent spoiled children."
I have never witnessed an ENFP female I was ever interested in. I've lived on two different continents.
ENTP females always showed interest, but I found them unworthy of investment (promiscuity and deceitful nature).
INFJ male
@ you haven’t met the right ones
Can someone please list which types are feminine and which are masculine?
XNTJ's and XSTP's are considered the most masculine. Alpha quadra (XSFJ's and XNTP's) are considered the most feminine.
@thatoneguy4171 in what order do xNFJs, xSFPs, xSTJs and xNFPs follow?
@@susmateja Extraverted sensing is considered a masculine function. Additionally being pragmatic is also considered masculine. My personal ranking from most masculine to most feminine:
XSTP's
XNTJ's
XSFP's
XNFJ's
XSTJ's
XNFP's
XNTP's
XSFJ's
Id say thats mostly accurate but for example there is not a lot of a jump between SFP n NFJ, imo there are three distinct groups masculity wise
Alpha
STP
NTJ
Beta
SFP
NFJ
STJ
Omega
NFP
NTP
SFJ
@@thatoneguy4171NFJs are more masculine than SFPs because they are direct
Oh the ex was no emotional compatibility.. now the woman in my dreams was the pedagogue that makes me kind of wonder who was the woman I spent seven years with in my twenties after college she was the silver
maybe railgun was too relaxed then ?💀
What ist the Definition of Pedagogue? I thought it is Hero matching Inferior while Parent-Child-Axis matches.
Pedagogue relationship means perception functions match (sexual compatibility) and no emotional compatibility, for example enfj&intp, isfj&estp
It has nothing to do with the position of functions
I don't know You have responsibilities and maturity but then again my perspective on a happy healthy relationship is you also have to be kids at play it's that simple
Completely unrelated to the subject but which type does this community think is the most likely to be goth/emo?
Isfp
INFP girls are often either goth or fairy/cottagecore. It's a bit wild. They seem like very aesthetic people.
With se trickster ?@@RaffertyMBTI
Infps are more likely into death metal alike with heavy growling voice @@RaffertyMBTI
💯 Correct! @@alexispalole8055
It's a wild ride!!!!
But hey Chase aren't we all attracted to what we love in ourself
Okay my preference is pedagogue but I've been in benefactor actually I think I've been in the all. But honestly if I have a personal choice I'd like to be in a pedagogue not we're just I teach them but they teach me I mean what more to there is in life.. ... ? Possibly honest sex is a very important part of a healthy relationship but not just sex all of it The whole big picture and then I wonder how all these aspects of relations play out within the segment of a person's life as they mature and integrate or reverse disintegrate or stay stagnant
Who wouldn't like a pedagogue relationship?
Can u have a relationship that has them all? No you have to pick...
Is Taylor Russel an infp?
Hey hindsight's 20/20.. too bad force I couldn't be 10:10 or can it
Can make a vedio on What would be the implications if the TYPE GRID /mbti stuff became mainstream Good or bad ?
I remember him stating something akin to being a net positive bcs while others can know where to struck, you know where to defend. And ofc the whole thing about you only being able to love ppl when you truly understand them.
Also changes in education taking into acxount how different types learn, better economy productivity by assigning the right types to the right spots and so on
@@johnsmith26185I mean what's it gonna take for this stuff to become mainstream 😂
Some people still think it's pesudoscience 😂
I have something not nice to say. Sorry in advance.
How can we trust your dating advice when you had so many failed relationships?
Unfortunately, because there are so many variables to the issue of compatability, many of them probably unknown, its not responsible taking advise that doesn't have a success story behind it.
Its more likely that you didn't got the full picture figured out and therefore give incomplete input.
Classic infp "cite your sources" I guess?
You can’t learn from success, only failure. So there is only success and learning.
@@CSJosephYou can definitely learn from success.
How do you think champion fighters learned their craft? From accomplished coaches. A lineage of champion fighters is now being created in Dagestan as we speak...
Complete nonsense.
In fact, the guild system of Medieval Europe is nothing other learning from success.
Apprenticeship under a master is nothing other than learning from success.
One learns from mistakes... But, to claim it's the only way to learn is a complete lie, self-evidently.
By the way, taking direct advice from someone who wasn't able to turn his mistakes into victories... isn't wise... it's following a fool.
But, you can look at this mistake-ridden person to know what not to do!
Conclusion: track records mean alot.
---
One's personal journey of self-correcting mistakes under the tutelage of a successful master is NOT the same as taking advice from a master who never had success. Self-evidently.
Track records mean alot. It means a person can advise someone on what to do, and not merely "what not to do."
What a difference.
In the context of dating, a "quartet" refers to a group of four people who are all romantically involved with each other, essentially a "four-way" relationship, often used within the polyamory community where people may have multiple partners simultaneously; similar to how a "triad" describes a group of three in a romantic relationship.
Necessity is the mother of all means" means that when a situation requires something desperately, people will find a way to achieve it, even if it means using unconventional or creative methods; essentially, a strong need forces people to come up with solutions, no matter what it takes.... That said it's all a matter of what we are seeking. And from a different point of view you ever read where it says don't date the people you're drawn to date the people that you aren't drawn to spend the time to get to know them and retrospect we love others while we love in ourselves. We also hate in others what we hate in ourselves. The question is what point of the journey are you on
In socionics, the "Enigma" relationship refers to the interaction between two people who belong to the same "type of information metabolism" (TIM), meaning they process information in a very similar way, often leading to a sense of deep understanding but also potential stagnation due to a lack of complementary perspectives.