I'm LDS, and I run a small podcast with a friend of mine called "Actual Mormons". If you ever want to come to the show to discuss your concerns, you're welcome to do so.
What really made me not be Mormon was the circular logic. For example I had elders come by and teach me that what makes the Mormon church true is that it has things that other churches don’t like the priest hood and prophets and the reason why those things aren’t in other churches is because they weren’t documented so they where lost. And the issue is is that these things are revealed in the Book of Mormon which has zero historical evidence to back it up unlike the Bible where the book is compromised of many manuscripts spanning all through time while the Book of Mormon was written in 60 days… 6 years after Joseph smith has his encounter in the woods.
I don't think anything you said points to both circular logic nor what our belief is. First circular logic is when something self affirms itself. Like when Sola Scriptura believers say the Bible is true because it says its true. That's circular. The Book of Mormon doesn't self affirm itself, it mostly affirms the Bible and Jesus Christ. Second we don't believe people lost the truth because documentation was lost and was restored by the Book of Mormon. We believe people lost the truth because of wickedness and craftiness of men and Satan. That righteousness was being perverted as in the days of Noah and Sodom. That men were creating their own documents to gain control over the people and the true Church became corrupt and God removed his authority from the Earth. Nothing to do with lost papers, but lost virtues.
You're right! He's not a learner at all. If he was, he would actually learn what it is that LDS believe instead of the mountains of garbage others are feeding him.
@@AdamJDonegan You'll see better in my other comments. Anti-mormons like Mormonish and Mormon Stories are feeding people lies that 1. We don't believe in Jesus as our God. 2. We believe in a plagerized book as the Word of God. 3. That Joseph Smith wasn't a prophet but a con man. 4. That we are a cult that enjoys the suffering of its members. 5. We don't care about the marginalized. (BTW these lies are said about all Christianity they just pick the nearest place to throw stones at.) You seem to agree with these lies so quickly without actually learning the real truth.
@@jacobsamuelson3181it's quite interesting how you are so offended by people who do not think like YOU. Go figure. Jacob this is America we have freedom of religion and speech. If all else fails you need to learn the laws of this land and not be offended so easily. It's not Christ-like.
Doing these videos is great because it educates people on the differences between Christianity and the rest of the world religions, which are completely different from each other. I'm looking forward to the other videos you'll be doing. Keep up the work bro. 😊
Hey Adam, I am an Orthodox Christian. I have been one my whole life and I have been continuously learning about it. If you like, I would love to hop on a voice call (discord, teams, zoom or whatever) with you some time to talk about the faith and other resources.
Yes we all need our false beliefs validated. Perfect places to find out what anti-Mormons say about us. While your at it be sure to check out Hawkins, Dillahunty, Aron Ra, and Tjump for all of your Christian beliefs, they love validating the truth about your beliefs.
What’s really compelling and courageous…is telling a GoPro alone in your car what IS true instead of telling a GoPro alone in your car what you don’t want to be true💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Interesting thoughts, but a few corrections (on LDS beliefs): (1) They believe in Salvation for all (but works will be more rewarded - as stated in the bile) As "salvation" and exaltation (are different things) Apostle Paul talks about "3 heavens. Jesus said there are "many mansions (and not one) in my fathers (Gods) house (2) Joseph Smith (like many) were "sealed" to many women (vs traditional marriage - which is very different) it was really more to bind people together in his situation (polygamy was also practiced sometimes in the bible too though). (3) Freemasons (actually only tried to preserve ancient teachings that were found in Egyptians traditions, and even back to Adam) JS didn't always agree with their teachings but used the knowledge he gained (from the Lord) (4) Jeff durbin isn't the best guy to ask about LDs beliefs (lol) Trust me I know what he teaches. However a great video is a debate between him (and his buddy) vs Kwaku El (A mormon). Okay thanks and I appreciate your video - and I know there are alot of things the LDS religion teaches (but it's really more additional knowledge and clarifications) vs being a "different religion" from an angel, as God is not a God of confusion. (The reason why we have so many religions today (in Christianity) which is one of the "most fractured" religions in the world - is because of differing opinions and views even using the "same bible". (So even if you take out the lds church you'll still have that problem). Jesus taught "one faith, one people, and showed one way to baptize). Okay food for thought and god bless :) Here is the link for the debate: th-cam.com/video/1XbJ3954HW8/w-d-xo.html
@@AdamJDoneganIt might be helpful, as you unlearn things which are not true, to throw them in a pinned comment or your description. Just a suggestion to make sure it's as accurate and informative as possible. Thanks. ❤
Mormonism is the same as Islamism, they have their twisted truths about Biblical scriptures, and those books are written and authored by one man. Bot got twisted loving thoughts about Jesus (Yeshua) at the point that Yeshua's life is lessened as a prophet or something lower form. The same comes with Jehova's witnesses, they less Yeshua as angel Michael.
The Church of Jesus Christ is very much NOT the same as Islamism; principally teaching about Christ, and salvation through Christ's Atonement, as the name of the Church of Jesus Christ seems to make clear, would be an easy distinction.
@@RDRTrash It’s not though and never was. It was created by an 18th century polygamist cult leader who married women who were already married. I recommend watching philions video on the LDS, how the book of Mormons “history” lacks any real archeological evidence to back up its claims. Joseph Smith was a con artist
@@RDRTrash Smith took ideas from many different religions, including Islam. There is also a lot from the Catholics, as well as from the Methodists. He even visited Methodist churches to learn how they organized their congregations.
@@AdamJDonegan He needed a way to make money, and realized that starting a religion was the perfect way to do it. Add to that his knowledge of witchcraft, and the gullibility of the people in that era, and he had it made.
I'm a Latter-day Saint. I converted to the church. Of course if you look at all 'anti-mormon' material you are going to receive the answer you expected. Lots of your opinions are based on half truths and faulty information. There's no rule that you must serve a mission. And the temple ceremonies are sacred you're not supposed to share footage of what happens inside.
I shared my thoughts and I’m open to being corrected. But I need to know do you believe you can become a God one day? Because that’s satans oldest trick. Put your faith in Christ, NOT Joseph Smith!
@@AdamJDonegan yes I believe we become like God. In the same way that the Father and Son are one we become one with them. This happens when we enter into their presence and are exalted. There's a gospel topics essay on our churches website that goes more into detail. But we learn about this teaching in the N.T. Romans 8:16-18 we are called 'heirs of God and joint-heirs with Christ' and Revelation 3:21 Christ speaks and says '21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.'
@@AdamJDonegan so in the greatest lies there contains some truth. Satan was not wrong when he said that we would become like God. What he did was twist the truth he didn't tell us that we were going to be completely separated from God and have to experience all the pains of the world that come with mortality. If you read the entire scripture in Genesis 3:22 elaborates "22 ¶ And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever"
At one time the leaders used to announce from the pulpit that every "worthy" young man was required to serve a mission. Those who didn't were severely looked down upon. The young women wouldn't date them either. The temple ceremonies are secret because they are full of witchcraft, like the magic circle, chanting, and wearing of Lucifer's apron. Smith's entire family was steep in it. I should know, as I was an active member for 30 years, until I woke up to the evil fraud. They only have the veneer of Christianity, while behind the scenes they are greedy businessmen. I am not condemning the good everyday faithful members, but pointing out the upper tier that runs the corporation.
Can anyone give me something better than the Church of Jesus Christ? I’ve been told I’m part of a cult, or that Joseph Smith was lazy and indolent or that I don’t worship the correct Jesus…but never had anyone offered me a better understanding of God or a logical explanation of various key passages found within the same Bible that sat upon their nightstands. I could walk into 4 different churches on one intersection and not one of them even would attempt to show me that they are the Church that Christ established when he was on the earth. Isn’t that the church you would want to be part of? What does that Church even look like and is there anyone that can offer any similarities to that ancient Christian church found in the New Testament? Christ’s church was a living church, meaning it was lead by Christ himself through revelation. When a prophet or apostle got out of line, Christ put him back on track! [Acts 10:10-16] The church was built upon apostles and prophets [Eph 2:19-20] but I’ve never had anyone tell me of another church with apostles and prophets. The Bible says we’d have apostles and prophets “until we all came to a unity of faith” [Eph 4:11-14]. Does it look like we’re united? When Judas was gone, the apostles chose someone to take his spot as an apostle. Did someone authorize the discontinuance of that practice? [Acts 1:22-25] The Father and The Son are separate and distinct individuals. Christ exclaims that “My Father is greater than I” [John 14:28] on one occasion, and on another He looks to heaven and says “Father…I thank thee that thou hast heard me.” [John 11:41] In his last moments on the cross He asks His Father why He has forsaken Him. Why on earth in this hour of extreme pain and fatigue would He ask himself why He has forsaken Himself? He also asks His Father to “forgive them for they know not what they do” and finally relents, “into Thy hands I commend my Spirit”. To think that Christ is speaking to himself or some distant manifestation of himself just doesn’t do justice to the character of Christ. The water, gas, and ice or 3 in 1 egg example used to define the trinitarian concept of God doesn’t hold up and is nowhere to be found in the New Testament. Never in the Bible does it mention children being baptized, and never is baptism performed without an accompanying large body of water. What church on earth has an answer for children that have died in infancy or those that have never heard the name of Christ? If belief in Christ and baptism by immersion is a requirement for salvation, then there ought to be a provision made by a just and loving God. Peter taught that the gospel was preached to them that are dead [1 Pet 4:6] and it follows that Christ’s church would perform baptisms for the dead or for those that didn’t have the opportunity to be baptized. [1 Cor 15:29] What about degrees of glory in heaven or multiple kingdoms? Paul said he visited or saw in vision a “third heaven” [2 Cor 12:2-4] Does that mean there is a first and second? What church today talks about these things? What about eternal marriage? Why would you want to be with your sweetheart “until death do you part” when [1 Cor 11:11] Paul says that the man and the woman are together “in the Lord”. What church echo’s Paul’s teachings about the “body being a temple” [1 Cor3:16-17] more so than the Chrch of Jesus Christ and its Word of Wisdom? Studies have confirmed that members of the church are among the healthiest people in the world because of this code of living. The list is endless…but If I go past 2000 words here, no one will read it. Friends have asked me to leave the Church I have described above. My reply is similar to Peter’s. “To whom will I go” [John 6:68] Honestly…where can I go that I can learn about all of these things found within the Bible that no one else is talking about? But you say…the temple is weird, and Joseph Smith was bad, and some strange practices have taken place in the past and in the present. That is what they said of Peter and the apostles when they walked the earth. Can you imagine what the Lord taught the 12 apostles during his “40 day ministry” when he taught them “things pertaining to the Kingdom of God”? [Acts 1] Does anyone know what those things were that he taught…and why it took 40 days to discuss? My question is simple and honest; Can anyone give me something better than the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? …and if so what is it and where is it? how does it stack up against the structure of the original Christian church that Christ established?
@@AdamJDonegan I guess the "big" question is if truth is important (which is what Christ taught) then is "his" church still on the earth today? If so which one is it? That is a basic and universal question everyone should ask (as there are literally 100s of christian sects that mostly use the "same" bible). With that said I believe we (as christians) should really just support each other (and learn from each other too). Everyone can grow in knowledge from whatever teachings - and then add on to them. Only the holy spirit and scripture study, prayer - can truly convince and convert.
Bro… L O L… You're lumping everybody together… I'm a convert to the church of Jesus Christ, Arity, Saints, a rational person, a prayerful person, I'm telling you that if you take off the blinders of bigotry and prejudice and open your heart, you will see what I saw And at the very least, give it a real intelligent non-prejudice, non-biased investigation Good luck in your awakening
No thanks Roger, I didn’t mean disrespect. But I don’t believe I can become a god one day. Read Isaiah 44:6. The bible goes against your Book of Mormon. God bless ✝️
Hey, take a look at revelations chapter 1 verse six… Clearly states that Jesus Christ is the son of God and that God has a father and if he does, that indicates progression I believe in a God that loves all of us and who wants us to progress throughout eternity as opposed to having some kind of a lid put on a progression… It's just so different way of thinking Never forget, we are on the same team "Mormons" are Christians remember the name of the actual church that I belong to is "the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints… Very biblical would love to have a discussion with you over the phone I can basically prove to the book of Mormon is true just going through first Nephi Consider this the Bible is the Old Testament and the New Testament If you don't limit Christ in his abilities, and think outside the box, then the next logical step is that Christ after he left, Jerusalem visited others Why wouldn't he visit others if he's the god of the whole world why would he just be in Jerusalem? The book of Mormon is "another testament, witness of Jesus Christ Be honest with me… Have you read the book of Mormon or are you just shouting from the rafters as I used to?
Hey Roger I don’t believe a man saw God and Jesus in the woods and said to him that Christianity become corrupt and so had to make his own church in which he used his power and influence to take advantage of people. Roger I respect you as a man but I can’t find an ounce of respect I have for Joseph smith. Also the book of nephi contradicts the bible! Read 2 Nephi 25:23 Then read Ephesians 2:8-9
I agree with Ephesians chapter 2, verse eight and nine… I don't understand why you even mentioned that… You still did not address my comments… If you want to have a serious dialogue, we need to address each other's pinpoint comments… Why do you think that God only spoke to a small group of people… The new Testament is a select amount of books what about the dead Sea scrolls? What about the apocrypha? God and Jesus Christ are all powerful, and to limit them, and to suppose that they only spoke in a brief historical book, seems to be a contradiction I asked you… If you had read the book of Mormon, or you just grandstanding and throwing out hyperbole
I am a defender of this faith… I used to be on the outside… Now I'm on the inside I used to be a persecutor of this faith… But I like Saul saw the light and came to my senses I have never found one person on TH-cam who would accept my challenge to talk about these things seriously… Never never ever one person they throw bombs, and then they leave I have a simple question for you Have you read first Nephi? Have you read the introduction to the Book of Mormon not the entire book just the first few pages, the introduction, the title page and first Nephi Nobody has ever accepted my challenge to do this, and have a rational conversation Will you accept my challenge?
Hi Adam thanks for this video I came in contact with Mormons and yes do be very careful of their false doctoring i found them difficult to get rid of if you like they came to my house a couple of times and i specifically said not to come again as I'm not interested they ignored me and still came anyway to be honest I really got firm in the end and just said you must not keep coming back to my house I'm already a Christian and go to a pentecostal church I'm happy in and don't want to join them and thanks to our precious Lord Jesus they did finally get the message 😮 but i found it very scary as thry to me was not very respectful of my wishes found them to be very pushy and forceful in their approach and mannerisms very similar to how jehova witness people can be as I do have a sister of mine who is a jehova witness and well when she is on her band wagon well it's time to scarper 😅
Hey there Joanne, thank you for sharing your experience and I think many people can relate to what you went through! Yes they are very pushy and also quite deceptive, they come across friendly but when you question their belief systems they can become quite nasty. God bless
So you asked on why I am not an Orthodox Christian where it say in the Bible you can ask saints for help. When I replied and gave you: Luke 16-24 to 28 Is one dead man asking another (Abraham) for help. Although the help was denied, Jesus who was telling the parribal did not indicate that the dead can't help the dead or the living. In fact I can't find anywhere in the bible it saying not to ask the dead for help. Jesus talks about Abraham (long dead) as having the power and authority to act and could have influenced the living. You failed either to rebut or acknowledge. What is your intent, click bait or seriously looking for truth ?
The dead can't do anything. There is no scripture in the Old Testament or New Testament that tells us the saints can interact with us or receive our prayers, etc. This is a man made idea which was invented by Man, and it's not Biblical.
@@lilmonkey9919 Hey bro. You've got a few presuppositions here that the church of the first 1500 years never held to. One is that you appeal to the bible, but the biblical cannon itself is an organic tradition of the church, put together by people who believed in doctrines such as the intercessions of the saints, real presence of Christ in the eucharist, apostolic succession. Are you going to say now that a bunch of heretics in the first 1500 years of church history put your biblical canon together? You may call them dead, but Christ Jesus called them alive: "24Jesus answered and said to them, “Are you not therefore [g]mistaken, because you do not know the Scriptures nor the power of God? 25For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. 26But concerning the dead, that they rise, have you not read in the book of Moses, in the burning bush passage, how God spoke to him, saying, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? 27He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living. You are therefore greatly mistaken.”
You are espousing Evangelical lies about the LDS faith. You didnt go into this with an open heart and mind. You went to prove that the negative things you were told were true. You wont find a more biblically accurate faith than the LDS. But youd have to actually read the Bible amd not cherry picked verses. Shame on you
Why anyone is not a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is best explained by these verses D and C 123:12. 2 Thessalonians 2:10. John 10:25-27.
You may know less than you think you do about us. I was raised Catholic with Catholic school up to high school and converted to the LDS faith in college. I did not go on a mission and was never threatened with excommunication. Also, I have a great appreciation for traditional Christianity…but to me the picture you paint of the LDS Church is not the church I know and love.
I got one point wrong, I thought I heard Johnny Harris talk about if he didn’t go on a mission then he would be excommunicated but that’s only for serious sins, but that’s worse is the reality that when he left the Mormon Church he got ostracised for it
Here’s a question for you. Why should I trust Joseph Smith who has been proven to be a liar? Also the “history” in the Book of Mormon can’t be backed up with any actual archaeological evidence!
@@AdamJDonegan Which church then can be "proven' as Christs "One" true church? (If that would be important to know). However if not - and as long as it teaches about Jesus (and the lessons he taught) why should it matter?
The Lords work will not be Frustrated by anybody anywhere or have big or small they are. I know the church is true I received a testimony of the truthfulness of the book of Mormon Joseph Smith and Jesus Christ being the son of God. A man could get closer to God by reading the book of Mormon is it complements the Bible than any other fuck written.
The book for Mormon goes contrary to biblical stricture. Mormons believe in work’s salvation and if they get the highest level of heaven, they can become Gods one day!! What’s satans oldest lie? You can become gods
@@AdamJDonegan 😂😂🤣🤣🤡🤡 Have you ever read the Bible?? Both old and new testaments?? And then said to yourself, “Yep, that’s definitely it. God spoke (in what language??) in this precise chronological order and told these bonkers nonsensical stories and some rando stenographers captured the words verbatim”.
Although there are a lot of problems with Mormonism, including their polygamous history and their belief in multiple Gods, the Evangelical belief that salvation is through faith-alone is just as wrong. So, they're both wrong. To fix the Mormon problem, God is one, such that the Trinity exists within him rather than as separate entities and man cannot become infinite in the same nature as the Father, Jesus being the only exception, because he is the Father in human form. To fix the Evangelical problem, salvation is through living a life of caring and faith joined, done as if on one's own but while acknowledging that all power to do so comes from the Lord. The Ten Commandments have to be obeyed in order to be saved, as true faith doesn't exist aside from following it. The "works" that Paul wrote that are no longer required are the works of the Mosaic Law, not the works of the Ten Commandments.
@@AdamJDonegan Ephesians 2: 8-9 doesn’t teach salvation through faith alone but rather grace that is given by the Lord upon actual repentance. You still have to repent and live by the commandments. The “not boasting” is because it’s done in partnership with the Lord “as if” on your own, by acknowledging that without him you are nothing. The key point is that it takes true intent and life change.
Sounds like your problems with polygamous history and belief in multiple gods are actually problems with the Bible since that's what the writers of the Bible acknowledged.
@@jacobsamuelson3181 The Bible is written in symbolic language which gives it an inner sense not apparent by the letter. Polygamy is a heinous sin. Many of the Biblical authors were wicked men. The reason their lives are portrayed in the Bible is for the inner, spiritual lessons and correspondences within the Word inspired by the Lord.
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I’m an ex-Mormon. Now I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
What? 🤣 ur an ex Mormon part of the LDS church
Love this! Way to convert to the true Church and name of His Church!
I'm LDS, and I run a small podcast with a friend of mine called "Actual Mormons". If you ever want to come to the show to discuss your concerns, you're welcome to do so.
I’ll let you know. Thanks 👍
What really made me not be Mormon was the circular logic. For example I had elders come by and teach me that what makes the Mormon church true is that it has things that other churches don’t like the priest hood and prophets and the reason why those things aren’t in other churches is because they weren’t documented so they where lost. And the issue is is that these things are revealed in the Book of Mormon which has zero historical evidence to back it up unlike the Bible where the book is compromised of many manuscripts spanning all through time while the Book of Mormon was written in 60 days… 6 years after Joseph smith has his encounter in the woods.
Agreed 👍
I don't think anything you said points to both circular logic nor what our belief is. First circular logic is when something self affirms itself. Like when Sola Scriptura believers say the Bible is true because it says its true. That's circular. The Book of Mormon doesn't self affirm itself, it mostly affirms the Bible and Jesus Christ. Second we don't believe people lost the truth because documentation was lost and was restored by the Book of Mormon. We believe people lost the truth because of wickedness and craftiness of men and Satan. That righteousness was being perverted as in the days of Noah and Sodom. That men were creating their own documents to gain control over the people and the true Church became corrupt and God removed his authority from the Earth. Nothing to do with lost papers, but lost virtues.
You're not a lazy learner. Refreshing. God bless.
Thank you! God bless!
You're right! He's not a learner at all. If he was, he would actually learn what it is that LDS believe instead of the mountains of garbage others are feeding him.
@@jacobsamuelson3181 and what garbage could people be feeding me ?
@@AdamJDonegan You'll see better in my other comments. Anti-mormons like Mormonish and Mormon Stories are feeding people lies that 1. We don't believe in Jesus as our God. 2. We believe in a plagerized book as the Word of God. 3. That Joseph Smith wasn't a prophet but a con man. 4. That we are a cult that enjoys the suffering of its members. 5. We don't care about the marginalized. (BTW these lies are said about all Christianity they just pick the nearest place to throw stones at.) You seem to agree with these lies so quickly without actually learning the real truth.
@@jacobsamuelson3181it's quite interesting how you are so offended by people who do not think like YOU. Go figure. Jacob this is America we have freedom of religion and speech. If all else fails you need to learn the laws of this land and not be offended so easily. It's not Christ-like.
You should do a series on why you aren’t a dinosaur or a reptile or a bird.
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Doing these videos is great because it educates people on the differences between Christianity and the rest of the world religions, which are completely different from each other. I'm looking forward to the other videos you'll be doing. Keep up the work bro. 😊
Thanks Liam I appreciate it
Lilmonkey, which out of the 40,000 protestant groups in the world do you adhere to?
@pelagonianlion8276 There isn't a thing called denominations. There is only the one true Christian Church, and that's it.
Hey Adam, I am an Orthodox Christian. I have been one my whole life and I have been continuously learning about it. If you like, I would love to hop on a voice call (discord, teams, zoom or whatever) with you some time to talk about the faith and other resources.
Hey there was sounds cool. My name on discord is adamdonegan
Check out the podcast called Mormonish. It will validate a lot of your concerns.
Yeah I’ve seen them. I’ve also watched a few of Mormon stories podcast
Yes we all need our false beliefs validated. Perfect places to find out what anti-Mormons say about us. While your at it be sure to check out Hawkins, Dillahunty, Aron Ra, and Tjump for all of your Christian beliefs, they love validating the truth about your beliefs.
What’s really compelling and courageous…is telling a GoPro alone in your car what IS true instead of telling a GoPro alone in your car what you don’t want to be true💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Interesting thoughts, but a few corrections (on LDS beliefs): (1) They believe in Salvation for all (but works will be more rewarded - as stated in the bile) As "salvation" and exaltation (are different things) Apostle Paul talks about "3 heavens. Jesus said there are "many mansions (and not one) in my fathers (Gods) house (2) Joseph Smith (like many) were "sealed" to many women (vs traditional marriage - which is very different) it was really more to bind people together in his situation (polygamy was also practiced sometimes in the bible too though). (3) Freemasons (actually only tried to preserve ancient teachings that were found in Egyptians traditions, and even back to Adam) JS didn't always agree with their teachings but used the knowledge he gained (from the Lord) (4) Jeff durbin isn't the best guy to ask about LDs beliefs (lol) Trust me I know what he teaches. However a great video is a debate between him (and his buddy) vs Kwaku El (A mormon). Okay thanks and I appreciate your video - and I know there are alot of things the LDS religion teaches (but it's really more additional knowledge and clarifications) vs being a "different religion" from an angel, as God is not a God of confusion. (The reason why we have so many religions today (in Christianity) which is one of the "most fractured" religions in the world - is because of differing opinions and views even using the "same bible". (So even if you take out the lds church you'll still have that problem). Jesus taught "one faith, one people, and showed one way to baptize). Okay food for thought and god bless :) Here is the link for the debate: th-cam.com/video/1XbJ3954HW8/w-d-xo.html
Keep it up bro
Thanks man I will.
Sad.
Thx
You do not get excommunicated for not serving a mission. 😂
I misunderstood what Johnny Harris said in his video about Mormonism
Yeah no worries.
@@AdamJDoneganIt might be helpful, as you unlearn things which are not true, to throw them in a pinned comment or your description. Just a suggestion to make sure it's as accurate and informative as possible. Thanks. ❤
That’s fair enough
Mormonism is the same as Islamism, they have their twisted truths about Biblical scriptures, and those books are written and authored by one man. Bot got twisted loving thoughts about Jesus (Yeshua) at the point that Yeshua's life is lessened as a prophet or something lower form. The same comes with Jehova's witnesses, they less Yeshua as angel Michael.
Very true
The Church of Jesus Christ is very much NOT the same as Islamism; principally teaching about Christ, and salvation through Christ's Atonement, as the name of the Church of Jesus Christ seems to make clear, would be an easy distinction.
@@RDRTrash It’s not though and never was. It was created by an 18th century polygamist cult leader who married women who were already married. I recommend watching philions video on the LDS, how the book of Mormons “history” lacks any real archeological evidence to back up its claims. Joseph Smith was a con artist
@@RDRTrash Smith took ideas from many different religions, including Islam. There is also a lot from the Catholics, as well as from the Methodists. He even visited Methodist churches to learn how they organized their congregations.
@@AdamJDonegan He needed a way to make money, and realized that starting a religion was the perfect way to do it. Add to that his knowledge of witchcraft, and the gullibility of the people in that era, and he had it made.
I'm a Latter-day Saint. I converted to the church. Of course if you look at all 'anti-mormon' material you are going to receive the answer you expected. Lots of your opinions are based on half truths and faulty information. There's no rule that you must serve a mission. And the temple ceremonies are sacred you're not supposed to share footage of what happens inside.
I shared my thoughts and I’m open to being corrected. But I need to know do you believe you can become a God one day? Because that’s satans oldest trick. Put your faith in Christ, NOT Joseph Smith!
@TheUSAxeMan they call themselves saints and latter day means today like modern times
@@AdamJDonegan yes I believe we become like God. In the same way that the Father and Son are one we become one with them. This happens when we enter into their presence and are exalted. There's a gospel topics essay on our churches website that goes more into detail. But we learn about this teaching in the N.T. Romans 8:16-18 we are called 'heirs of God and joint-heirs with Christ' and Revelation 3:21 Christ speaks and says '21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.'
@@AdamJDonegan so in the greatest lies there contains some truth. Satan was not wrong when he said that we would become like God. What he did was twist the truth he didn't tell us that we were going to be completely separated from God and have to experience all the pains of the world that come with mortality. If you read the entire scripture in Genesis 3:22 elaborates "22 ¶ And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever"
At one time the leaders used to announce from the pulpit that every "worthy" young man was required to serve a mission. Those who didn't were severely looked down upon. The young women wouldn't date them either. The temple ceremonies are secret because they are full of witchcraft, like the magic circle, chanting, and wearing of Lucifer's apron. Smith's entire family was steep in it. I should know, as I was an active member for 30 years, until I woke up to the evil fraud. They only have the veneer of Christianity, while behind the scenes they are greedy businessmen. I am not condemning the good everyday faithful members, but pointing out the upper tier that runs the corporation.
Can anyone give me something better than the Church of Jesus Christ? I’ve been told I’m part of a cult, or that Joseph Smith was lazy and indolent or that I don’t worship the correct Jesus…but never had anyone offered me a better understanding of God or a logical explanation of various key passages found within the same Bible that sat upon their nightstands. I could walk into 4 different churches on one intersection and not one of them even would attempt to show me that they are the Church that Christ established when he was on the earth. Isn’t that the church you would want to be part of?
What does that Church even look like and is there anyone that can offer any similarities to that ancient Christian church found in the New Testament?
Christ’s church was a living church, meaning it was lead by Christ himself through revelation. When a prophet or apostle got out of line, Christ put him back on track! [Acts 10:10-16]
The church was built upon apostles and prophets [Eph 2:19-20] but I’ve never had anyone tell me of another church with apostles and prophets. The Bible says we’d have apostles and prophets “until we all came to a unity of faith” [Eph 4:11-14]. Does it look like we’re united?
When Judas was gone, the apostles chose someone to take his spot as an apostle. Did someone authorize the discontinuance of that practice? [Acts 1:22-25]
The Father and The Son are separate and distinct individuals. Christ exclaims that “My Father is greater than I” [John 14:28] on one occasion, and on another He looks to heaven and says “Father…I thank thee that thou hast heard me.” [John 11:41] In his last moments on the cross He asks His Father why He has forsaken Him. Why on earth in this hour of extreme pain and fatigue would He ask himself why He has forsaken Himself? He also asks His Father to “forgive them for they know not what they do” and finally relents, “into Thy hands I commend my Spirit”. To think that Christ is speaking to himself or some distant manifestation of himself just doesn’t do justice to the character of Christ. The water, gas, and ice or 3 in 1 egg example used to define the trinitarian concept of God doesn’t hold up and is nowhere to be found in the New Testament.
Never in the Bible does it mention children being baptized, and never is baptism performed without an accompanying large body of water.
What church on earth has an answer for children that have died in infancy or those that have never heard the name of Christ? If belief in Christ and baptism by immersion is a requirement for salvation, then there ought to be a provision made by a just and loving God. Peter taught that the gospel was preached to them that are dead [1 Pet 4:6] and it follows that Christ’s church would perform baptisms for the dead or for those that didn’t have the opportunity to be baptized. [1 Cor 15:29]
What about degrees of glory in heaven or multiple kingdoms? Paul said he visited or saw in vision a “third heaven” [2 Cor 12:2-4] Does that mean there is a first and second? What church today talks about these things?
What about eternal marriage? Why would you want to be with your sweetheart “until death do you part” when [1 Cor 11:11] Paul says that the man and the woman are together “in the Lord”.
What church echo’s Paul’s teachings about the “body being a temple” [1 Cor3:16-17] more so than the Chrch of Jesus Christ and its Word of Wisdom? Studies have confirmed that members of the church are among the healthiest people in the world because of this code of living.
The list is endless…but If I go past 2000 words here, no one will read it. Friends have asked me to leave the Church I have described above. My reply is similar to Peter’s. “To whom will I go” [John 6:68] Honestly…where can I go that I can learn about all of these things found within the Bible that no one else is talking about? But you say…the temple is weird, and Joseph Smith was bad, and some strange practices have taken place in the past and in the present. That is what they said of Peter and the apostles when they walked the earth. Can you imagine what the Lord taught the 12 apostles during his “40 day ministry” when he taught them “things pertaining to the Kingdom of God”? [Acts 1] Does anyone know what those things were that he taught…and why it took 40 days to discuss?
My question is simple and honest; Can anyone give me something better than the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? …and if so what is it and where is it? how does it stack up against the structure of the original Christian church that Christ established?
How you can think that Joseph Smith has any credibility is beyond me
@@AdamJDonegan I guess the "big" question is if truth is important (which is what Christ taught) then is "his" church still on the earth today? If so which one is it? That is a basic and universal question everyone should ask (as there are literally 100s of christian sects that mostly use the "same" bible). With that said I believe we (as christians) should really just support each other (and learn from each other too). Everyone can grow in knowledge from whatever teachings - and then add on to them. Only the holy spirit and scripture study, prayer - can truly convince and convert.
Bro… L O L… You're lumping everybody together… I'm a convert to the church of Jesus Christ, Arity, Saints, a rational person, a prayerful person, I'm telling you that if you take off the blinders of bigotry and prejudice and open your heart, you will see what I saw And at the very least, give it a real intelligent non-prejudice, non-biased investigation
Good luck in your awakening
No thanks Roger, I didn’t mean disrespect. But I don’t believe I can become a god one day. Read Isaiah 44:6. The bible goes against your Book of Mormon. God bless ✝️
Hey, take a look at revelations chapter 1 verse six… Clearly states that Jesus Christ is the son of God and that God has a father and if he does, that indicates progression
I believe in a God that loves all of us and who wants us to progress throughout eternity as opposed to having some kind of a lid put on a progression… It's just so different way of thinking
Never forget, we are on the same team "Mormons" are Christians remember the name of the actual church that I belong to is "the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints… Very biblical would love to have a discussion with you over the phone
I can basically prove to the book of Mormon is true just going through first Nephi
Consider this the Bible is the Old Testament and the New Testament
If you don't limit Christ in his abilities, and think outside the box, then the next logical step is that Christ after he left, Jerusalem visited others
Why wouldn't he visit others if he's the god of the whole world why would he just be in Jerusalem?
The book of Mormon is "another testament, witness of Jesus Christ
Be honest with me… Have you read the book of Mormon or are you just shouting from the rafters as I used to?
Hey Roger I don’t believe a man saw God and Jesus in the woods and said to him that Christianity become corrupt and so had to make his own church in which he used his power and influence to take advantage of people. Roger I respect you as a man but I can’t find an ounce of respect I have for Joseph smith.
Also the book of nephi contradicts the bible!
Read 2 Nephi 25:23
Then read Ephesians 2:8-9
I agree with Ephesians chapter 2, verse eight and nine… I don't understand why you even mentioned that… You still did not address my comments… If you want to have a serious dialogue, we need to address each other's pinpoint comments… Why do you think that God only spoke to a small group of people… The new Testament is a select amount of books what about the dead Sea scrolls? What about the apocrypha?
God and Jesus Christ are all powerful, and to limit them, and to suppose that they only spoke in a brief historical book, seems to be a contradiction
I asked you… If you had read the book of Mormon, or you just grandstanding and throwing out hyperbole
I am a defender of this faith… I used to be on the outside… Now I'm on the inside I used to be a persecutor of this faith… But I like Saul saw the light and came to my senses
I have never found one person on TH-cam who would accept my challenge to talk about these things seriously… Never never ever one person they throw bombs, and then they leave
I have a simple question for you
Have you read first Nephi? Have you read the introduction to the Book of Mormon not the entire book just the first few pages, the introduction, the title page and first Nephi
Nobody has ever accepted my challenge to do this, and have a rational conversation
Will you accept my challenge?
Hi Adam thanks for this video I came in contact with Mormons and yes do be very careful of their false doctoring i found them difficult to get rid of if you like they came to my house a couple of times and i specifically said not to come again as I'm not interested they ignored me and still came anyway to be honest I really got firm in the end and just said you must not keep coming back to my house I'm already a Christian and go to a pentecostal church I'm happy in and don't want to join them and thanks to our precious Lord Jesus they did finally get the message 😮 but i found it very scary as thry to me was not very respectful of my wishes found them to be very pushy and forceful in their approach and mannerisms very similar to how jehova witness people can be as I do have a sister of mine who is a jehova witness and well when she is on her band wagon well it's time to scarper 😅
Hey there Joanne, thank you for sharing your experience and I think many people can relate to what you went through! Yes they are very pushy and also quite deceptive, they come across friendly but when you question their belief systems they can become quite nasty. God bless
The Mormons and JWs are two sides of the same coin. The Jws attract more working class, and the Mormons the middle and upper middle class.
So you asked on why I am not an Orthodox Christian where it say in the Bible you can ask saints for help. When I replied and gave you: Luke 16-24 to 28 Is one dead man asking another (Abraham) for help. Although the help was denied, Jesus who was telling the parribal did not indicate that the dead can't help the dead or the living. In fact I can't find anywhere in the bible it saying not to ask the dead for help. Jesus talks about Abraham (long dead) as having the power and authority to act and could have influenced the living. You failed either to rebut or acknowledge. What is your intent, click bait or seriously looking for truth ?
The dead can't do anything. There is no scripture in the Old Testament or New Testament that tells us the saints can interact with us or receive our prayers, etc. This is a man made idea which was invented by Man, and it's not Biblical.
@@lilmonkey9919 Hey bro. You've got a few presuppositions here that the church of the first 1500 years never held to. One is that you appeal to the bible, but the biblical cannon itself is an organic tradition of the church, put together by people who believed in doctrines such as the intercessions of the saints, real presence of Christ in the eucharist, apostolic succession. Are you going to say now that a bunch of heretics in the first 1500 years of church history put your biblical canon together?
You may call them dead, but Christ Jesus called them alive:
"24Jesus answered and said to them, “Are you not therefore [g]mistaken, because you do not know the Scriptures nor the power of God? 25For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. 26But concerning the dead, that they rise, have you not read in the book of Moses, in the burning bush passage, how God spoke to him, saying, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? 27He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living. You are therefore greatly mistaken.”
Wat. Are you accusing me of something 😂😂😂 I simply made a video and said my reasons why I’m not orthodox, that’s it. Where did all this come from
You are espousing Evangelical lies about the LDS faith. You didnt go into this with an open heart and mind. You went to prove that the negative things you were told were true. You wont find a more biblically accurate faith than the LDS. But youd have to actually read the Bible amd not cherry picked verses. Shame on you
God bless you Ben. I hope you find the truth ❤️
"Bibically accurate." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@lisabucaro576 Afraid to openly admit to your ‘more biblically accurate’ organization there Lisa??😂😂🤣🤣🤡🤡
Why anyone is not a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is best explained by these verses D and C 123:12. 2 Thessalonians 2:10. John 10:25-27.
You may know less than you think you do about us. I was raised Catholic with Catholic school up to high school and converted to the LDS faith in college. I did not go on a mission and was never threatened with excommunication. Also, I have a great appreciation for traditional Christianity…but to me the picture you paint of the LDS Church is not the church I know and love.
I am not LDS, but I largely agree with you. He seems to think he knows more about the topic than he actually does.
I got one point wrong, I thought I heard Johnny Harris talk about if he didn’t go on a mission then he would be excommunicated but that’s only for serious sins, but that’s worse is the reality that when he left the Mormon Church he got ostracised for it
Here’s a question for you. Why should I trust Joseph Smith who has been proven to be a liar? Also the “history” in the Book of Mormon can’t be backed up with any actual archaeological evidence!
He knows nothing of the Church doctrine but is an authority???
What is I don’t know? Mormonism can be disproved in a plethora of ways
Well giddy up, and start proving, please educate us, poor deceived fools.@@AdamJDonegan
Perhaps we could articulate a better response than taunting mockery. @@dougbrown8331
@@AdamJDonegan Which church then can be "proven' as Christs "One" true church? (If that would be important to know). However if not - and as long as it teaches about Jesus (and the lessons he taught) why should it matter?
The Lords work will not be Frustrated by anybody anywhere or have big or small they are. I know the church is true I received a testimony of the truthfulness of the book of Mormon Joseph Smith and Jesus Christ being the son of God. A man could get closer to God by reading the book of Mormon is it complements the Bible than any other fuck written.
Well, your ending was unexpected! I think you might mean "book"?
Yeah might be a spelling error…quite a unexpected one 🤣🤣🤣
The book for Mormon goes contrary to biblical stricture. Mormons believe in work’s salvation and if they get the highest level of heaven, they can become Gods one day!! What’s satans oldest lie? You can become gods
@@AdamJDonegan 😂😂🤣🤣🤡🤡
Have you ever read the Bible?? Both old and new testaments?? And then said to yourself, “Yep, that’s definitely it. God spoke (in what language??) in this precise chronological order and told these bonkers nonsensical stories and some rando stenographers captured the words verbatim”.
@@chollapropmgmt4602 haha exactly
Although there are a lot of problems with Mormonism, including their polygamous history and their belief in multiple Gods, the Evangelical belief that salvation is through faith-alone is just as wrong. So, they're both wrong. To fix the Mormon problem, God is one, such that the Trinity exists within him rather than as separate entities and man cannot become infinite in the same nature as the Father, Jesus being the only exception, because he is the Father in human form. To fix the Evangelical problem, salvation is through living a life of caring and faith joined, done as if on one's own but while acknowledging that all power to do so comes from the Lord. The Ten Commandments have to be obeyed in order to be saved, as true faith doesn't exist aside from following it. The "works" that Paul wrote that are no longer required are the works of the Mosaic Law, not the works of the Ten Commandments.
Ephesians 2:8-9
@@AdamJDonegan Ephesians 2: 8-9 doesn’t teach salvation through faith alone but rather grace that is given by the Lord upon actual repentance. You still have to repent and live by the commandments. The “not boasting” is because it’s done in partnership with the Lord “as if” on your own, by acknowledging that without him you are nothing. The key point is that it takes true intent and life change.
Sounds like your problems with polygamous history and belief in multiple gods are actually problems with the Bible since that's what the writers of the Bible acknowledged.
@@jacobsamuelson3181 The Bible is written in symbolic language which gives it an inner sense not apparent by the letter. Polygamy is a heinous sin. Many of the Biblical authors were wicked men. The reason their lives are portrayed in the Bible is for the inner, spiritual lessons and correspondences within the Word inspired by the Lord.