Sold My R5C For The Lumix S5ii... I WASTED Money!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2024
- I've been eyeing Panasonic ever since I was able to use one about a year ago. Now that they’ve fixed the autofocus issue, I hopped on it.
I was blown away! Not even by the autofocus but by all the other features! Honestly the Canon R5C simply made no sense to me and after using cameras, even more so!
The fact that the footage could match so easily with my Canon c70 blows me mind!
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00:00 Intro
00:50 Roasting the R5c
01:28 S5ii Footage!
02:15 Roasting the R5c Again
02:55 Battery Life
04:00 IBIS… SO GOOD!
05:20 More R5c Quirks
07:14 Using the S5ii as an A cam
07:30 Auto Focus Disclaimer
08:05 Micro HDMI?!
08:30 OPEN GATE!
10:15 Why I Chose it!
11:18 Downsides to the S5ii
12:25 Outro! - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
Don’t you think it’s wild that a camera in this price range can hold up in some cases even surpass the R5C or am I just crazy?! 😂
Why do these cameras crop the 4k though?
@@hereweare9011 either a processing power thing or a purposeful thing to make room for their flagship cameras. Idk 🤷🏽♂️
Micro hdmi on a $5k cinema oriented camera... canon has no shame
@@hereweare9011 my take: a full frame sensor is just too slow by default to get 60 fps I think. This is also seen by the rolling shutter for example. A smaller sensor can be read faster (even with same MP). By creating special memory buffers on top of a full frame sensor it is possible to fix this but this makes the sensor much more expensive.
Cropping > reading less pixels > faster read speed for 60 fps
@@mipmipmipmipmip for me who dont know much about filmning , what are the downgrades with Micro hfmi?
Dont forget that Panasonic also have this crazy habit of updating the firmware to the point where it has squeezed so much extra performance that you end up with essentially a new camera.
🙌🏼
And Canon is subject to remove features with their firmware. I own a 90d and really enjoy it but Canon spreads features around multiple cameras. Just give us one that has all the features. Oh well, Panasonic just did with the S5II. Saving my money up for Christmas and a S5II
@@lb7144 Бери X!!!
this aged really well
This was without a doubt one of the best pictures I've seen from the new Panasonic S5 ii camera.
Your images are so cinematic and beautiful, Well done
the anamorphic capability on a two thousand dollar camera is truly incredible
Thanks bro! Means alot!
Putting out a new video really soon using the aiva and s5ii combo w/ the rs3 mini!
To reduce the lag over HDMI, go to the HDMI Rec out menu and turn the audio over HDMI off. This will fix the issue but won’t get audio from the camera mics to your recorder.
Perfect, thanks!
Can you explain me a little bit more?
Great points man!!! It sucks that we invested into cameras thinking they were the right solution.. only to find out they were would if compromises. And then to have a camera come out for half the price that is wayyyy closer to being an solid option for almost everyone.
Right?!
I’m just glad this tool exists 🙌🏼
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Contemplating between the FX 3 or the S5IIx/S5II.
Great video, felt very genuine and not “forced” in any way, just a chilled layed back conversation with some good points!
Means a lot that you felt that way! Thanks bro!
Great video dude, welcome to the Lumix community 🙏🏼 S5ii does an awesome job for such an incredible price 🥳
Thanks brother!
It sure does! I’m excited for their flagship
Great video bro keep it coming 🤘🏽😎
Thanks brothah!
This made me a subscriber!
Thank you for the break-down. the Panasonic S5II sits very high on my wishlist.
Ofcourse! I’m glad it was helpful for you’
Subscribed
Looking forward seeing more content about the S5 II 👍
Appreciate that! Looking forward to making it 💪🏼
Great vid! Glad the channel is growing so quickly too
Appreciate it brother!
Might be moving down south, we should shoot some things together 💪🏼
@@AnthonyRodriguezz for sure!!! Hmu let’s do it!
Awesome, love it!
Subbed.
I do like the RF-EF adaptor with drop in variable ND filters for the Canon (which sort of gets close to built in ND’s). But like you said the R5C starts to get bulky quick in overcoming some of its shortfalls.
Thanks for the sub!
Sweet! Canceling my pre order for S5ii x w not as beast as Gh6 most cuz i have no lenses.ready to see the autofocus update and new features for the second versions of the mft this year ive heard. Thank you
Nice video. The value Panasonic brings to all its cameras is unreal. My wedding kit has 5 bodies and lenses that I was able to get at a fraction of the cost of any other brand.
Wow! That’s incredible!
Yeah, I’m stoked about the camera and what Panasonic will come out with in the future
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Got an S5iiX on order to succeed my S5, the wait for May is going to kill me! Very excited for the possibilities of a Panasonic who is finally back in the conversation, where they should be, and what they are going to do next. Would love to see a successor or an adjacent camera to the S1H, that perhaps is targeting the FX3 more than the A7Siii, would create a brilliant upgrade path through the Lumix system. I feel like just a S1Hii would feel a lot less important with the existence of the S5ii if its just a spec bump. Excited!
@@jockslifeatliftvideoproduc8528 the S1Hii is going to be goood.
I don’t care about spec bumps as much as features like internal ND, audio preamps and Dynamic range. I wish Panasonic would come out with a new cinema camera, a c70 competitor! 🙌🏼
I just got the S5II and just put my R5C up for sale. On Canon's defense the R5C is meant to be rigged up. The C does stand for cinema and cinema cameras you're supposed to rig up. R5C is mainly for photographers that dabbles in video. That being said I'm satisfied with the S5II. Probably should have hold out for the S5IIX but I couldnt wait that long
perfect camera. nice video. Proud user of Lumix cameras since 2009. Never looked back.
Nice! Thank you for that!
It almost seems like a cult following 😂
I guess all camera manufacturers almost seem like cult followings
Congrats. And thanks!
You can reduce HDMI latency by turning off audio if feasible. Also 60p has less then 30p, then 24p
Its an technical issue... would not wait for a "fix"
Thanks!
Mann the footage and autofocus is amazing on the s5ii. I'm a Lumix G9 user, that pdaf is a great upgrade!
Right?! Love this camera!
Great video again. Would like to see af comparison between c70 and the panny 😀
Might make a video on it but from my own personal testing, it’s surprisingly better 😳 when you use the right settings Ofcourse 😅
It’s very sticky when it comes to faces and people.
That’s one cinematic cat. ;-) great insight, great video, thanks for sharing.
That’s what I said!
Just got my Lumix S5 II for a while, I am impressed by the autofocus this gen (compared with Lumix GH6 and S5) , finally it is usable and works Good !
I Like panasonic Camera because of the good IBIS, good control ,good thermal control !
That ibis is 🤤
There's nothing wrong with the AF on the S5, NOTHING.
What lens do u use?
@@manescuemanuel1536 all are Lumix S Lens , the 18,35,50,85 f1.8
Man, Sony has a lot to learn from Panasonic when it comes to adding important video-centric features. The FX3 carries the “Cine-Line” moniker l, yet it lacks important cine cam features. Why can’t sony add shutter angle, false colour, waveforms and most importantly, open gate?
In a market where cameras overall perform pretty closely, I think these features should not be overlooked. These features really add to the overall experience and usability of the camera and I feel like Sony is just sitting on their hands from being the mark leader.
I completely agree!
Don't worry they will release another new camera which cost less and has more features than your current one. Also I heard they give you all the best firmware updates in next millienium.
Dope video sir
Thanks man!
What Lumix AF settings were you using for the talk? Also, were you using a native L mount lens or was it adapted?
I was adapting an EF sigma lens but it was off because the sensitivity was on really high and the setting wasn’t set to face/eye which is what I’d use for simple talking heads like this
Your channel is going up !!!!
Thanks bro!
ALOT of work! But it’s been fun 💪🏼
Wow, that looks freaking good!
Right?!
R5c is the king.. minus the hdmi thing, it has all the tools, the OS is awesome, and the raw capabilities are serious. Get it back!
Nahhh… the raw capabilities are far from serious and everything I mentioned as a con is way more than enough to make this camera not worth its price tag.
I didn’t realize that open gate allows a full 16x9 Image once anamorphic is desqueezed. Great to know - thx!
Depends on the squeeze coming from your anamorphic lens. My 1.5x gives me 2.25:1 which is really close to 2:1 which is perfect for content being consumed on a phone!
Thanks man! Really helped me out. I just bought this camera and I loved your anamorphic shots. I bought the package with the 20/60 mm f3.5/5.5 lens. Do you have an advice what will be the cheapest way for me to create anamorphic style shots? Is there an adaptor I can use? You know which one?
Ofcourse bro!
Anamorphic and cheap aren’t the really the greatest pair but honestly for now I’d get a Helios 44-2 with an anamorphic oval insert to replicate the look.
How cheap are we talkin??
Ah thanks! Well I was considering buying a micro 3/4 camera and then buy an extra sirui anamorphic lens for 700,- (euro). But I I chose for this Panasonic S5II. Since it is full frame the camera needs the sirui anamorphic lens around 1500,- (euro). I'm a beginner and I was planning on buying this soon. But, I hear you talking about an anamorphic adaptor. No I'm wondering if there is a cheaper way (then 1500 euro) to get my camera produce the anamorphic feel with such an adaptor and the 20/60 mm 33.5/5.5 lens. Is that possible?
@@theatermuziekhelmond you can sometime get lucky and find an older version aivascope adapter on fb
Thanks for an interesting video. I also have R5C
I have a quention, Is it good enough to use S5II with 50mm sigma(such as non is lens) as handheld footage?
Good enough for what specifically?
I’d say yes for almost anything unless you want sweeping gimbal shots
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Thank you sir, I won't sweep at all. Thanks again
Can you do some color science differences between the two camera?
Also some grading stuff to match the cameras
I might be doing a color grading tutorial of some sort but tbh just using these phantom LUTs to match the footage got me 90% of the way there and that’s not an exaggeration either!
Great points! Did you ever compare the s5ii with the Fx3 or A74 for for video as a b cam?
Thanks for your insights!
I haven’t! Sorry 😞
Great video! As a Canon user, I wanted to get an r7 with an 18-35 Sigma, but people like you make me consider the S5ii and S5iix with some of the Sigma Wide-Angle L lenses.
🙌🏼 sigma is great!
I have the same combo with lumix + contax zeiss lenses :) they look amazing. I am curious about that anamorphic adapter tho and how well it works with contax.
Absolutely love the Aivascope adapter! Will be making a video on it soon!
Stay tuned
Loved this video. I'll be buying my first camera soon that I'll be using for photography/video. But definitely video more. my top choices are either the Sony a7iv or Lumix S5iix but I'd have to wait a little longer for that camera. Any suggestions?
I’d go for the s5ii or the x if it’s your only camera
Panasonic dc-s5 ii x!!!
The cinematic was amazing!
Thanks!
BROOOO! That R5C was a GIANT headache. I owned it for 3 days and sold it on the 4th.
Yeah… it’d almost go as far as saying that it’s a complete waste of money.
Not entirely but it’s getting there 😅
@@AnthonyRodriguezz I can't tell you how much I agree with that statement. The footage I got from that thing wasn't as good as footage I got from an R7. Like, not even close. Now that the R8 is out, that camera and the S5ii kills EVERYTHING. See ya.
I want to try one for photography and short videos with manual lenses. I have Nikon now, but a better stabilization would be great when manual focusing handheld, no tripod.
Do it!
I love your little cat video 😂
Hahaha thanks!
🐱🐱 Storm & Honey looking too cute!
Aren’t they?! 😭😭
Wait… how’d you know their names? 😳
Great video! Been looking at this camera for a while now. Might have to take the plunge before my wife spends my bonus.
DO IT!
@@AnthonyRodriguezz divorce court here I come!
Love it how explain it, The only issue that I found is that the AF doesn't work in this setting ''FHD'' 24fps/60 I hope Panasonic will fix this issue in the firmware update.
I’m sure it will be fixed!
Great review! I had the GH3, Gh4, GH5 at one time and even have access to the S1H, but more recently bought the R5 mainly because I needed an AF solution. The S5 has me looking again to get back into the Lumix /FF game. That HDMI lag you are experiencing however, is a problem. I had it on all my Lumix cameras, too. I tried to use the monitor to help me manual focus, but the lag made it impossible for how I shoot. It was super frustrating experience. Lumix is very good about updates, but this is one that cont to not address. If there is solution that someone else know, please share! Outside of the lag, super excited about this camera and see myself giving Lumix another go in the future! I would take it over the S1H right now, despite it costing much less.
Turns out the lag can be almost completely taken out by turning off audio signal through HDMI
@@AnthonyRodriguezz - Good to know, but still kinda a bummer if you want your monitor as a recorder, too. Thanks!
@@sdm2 yeah… I’ve never really used an external recorder like that. If that were part of your workflow though, that’d be a bummer 😏
@@AnthonyRodriguezz - for me, I was trying to use the monitor to help with the manual focus (because the AF was always so poor). Not as much as an issue with the new phase detect AF. I have the Ninja, so figured I would record ProRes. However, maybe I should have just used it as a monitor only.. live and learn. Looking froward to trying out that tip!
S5iiX baby! phase detection ya'll
What do you think of the canon r8? I was looking for a hybrid camera for normal street and travelphotogrsphy but also wildlife photography and also filming (especially some good travel vids).. the r8 looks good for the price with very good video features and a very good autofocus especially for animals. Was also looking at the panasonic s5 2 but wasnt sure if the autofocus for sport or wildlife photography would be as good as the canon autofocus…
I think the r8 is a great option!
Not as video centric as the s5ii BUT still a great option!
Also, I’m not too familiar with those topics to provide any helpful advice, sorry 😢
Which anamorphic adaptor are you using? And do you rate it? Been thinking of getting one for my s5 and cinelenses
The aivascope 1.5x amber flare adapter!
It’s the best one out there!
I have some more footage on it on the video I just posted! Also making a whole video on the adapter soon so stay tuned! 💪🏼
Good video. I watched another comparison of s5 ii with r6 ii and Lumix s5 ii came out on top.
Thanks!
Edges out most cameras in this price point!
Nice vid! I've heard the turn on, or boot up time to the camera is somewhat long. Do you know how long it takes to turn on after flipping the switch?
Hey man, thanks!
I’ve never really thought about it too much tbh. I’m coming from using certain cinema cameras that take over 30 seconds to start up.
I do know the startup time has been slightly decreased with the latest firmware but like I said, I never noticed it being abnormally long to begin with so do with that what you will 🤷🏽♂️
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Thanks!
Try 50 or 60p framerate, it will speed up your hdmi latency. With the GH5 this works and you can tell the difference.
It was!
I love the 4k crop it makes it easier for me to get close to the small animals 😍👌
That’s an optimistic way to look at it! 🙌🏼
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Yes I know but I never film 📽️ other than animals and I always want to get closer 😁
I am really interested in using it for Livestream. I know model s5ii x has this option, how about basic model s5ii? How can you use it for Livestream? Via HDMI only or you can connect to wifi and stream without computer? I know that GH 6 had this option but had unusable AF and I prefer full frame camera than M4/3.
If you want to use it for live-streaming the s5iix is the best option!
Hi! Great video! How is the autofocus experience when adapting ef lenses to the s5ii? Thanks!
It’s pretty good actually! Haven’t noticed too much of a difference compared to the L mount lenses. Keep in mine I’ve owned used sigma L lenses and not Panasonic
@@AnthonyRodriguezz That's awesome! thank you for replying!
I admire that you have your own voice and are not afraid to just hold your own opinions even if they are not popular. For example the ibis topic
Someone has to kick against the goads! Jk jk.
I’d hate to be controversial just for the sake of being controversial 😏
Appreciate the support! 🙏🏼
This is my primary cam it's so good for my uses :D one thing I'd also add though as a downside personally is that the HDMI port gets in the way of the tilty flippy screen if I try to open it up to the left and tilt it upward lol small gripe but if only there was a way around that lol
Yeah that’s an annoyance for sure
Great vid! Which zeiss lens did you use?
I used the 50mm 1.4 MMJ!
I would buy the Canon EOS R5C. But then, I get rid of the crop on the s5ii by just not using 60fps. I have the GH6 for doing C4K60fps, theres no cropping doing it. Just set the camera futher back with that, then it'll capture everything I'm doing just fine. Thats how to get a wide fov anyways.
Which adapter do you use for the Lumix s5ii to adapt EF lenses?
Sigma MC-21
How does it compare to the fx3? Also how good is this in low light? I am a sony shooter and i really love my a7siii, but for some weird reason i’d like to also explore some other camera brands specially this lumix
The fx3 edges it out in low light and Ofcourse resolution. The 4K 60 crop isn’t fun BUT
The lowlight on the s5ii is actually incredible. Can get usable images at 12800 iso better than any other brand besides Sony.
The main benefits over the fx3 are more cinema features like shutter angle, waveform and a whole layout that’s just better suited for cinema (anamorphic, guides, basically no cripple anything)
The ibis is HUGE. Makes handheld shooting and absolute breeze and makes the sony ibis look, for lack of better words, stupid 😅
Lastly that open gate feature is NO SLOUCH. Incredibly useful for many many different situations
@@AnthonyRodriguezz great thanks for the info 🙏
Do you perhaps know how the auto-focus perform in crop mode? And can you do some test in crop mode using APS-C lenses?
It’s performs the same 👌🏼
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Thanks!
I'd love to get the af performance, but the S1 is currently giving me more (or at least the same) quality
Fair enough!
Do You use MC21 with EF lenses on this body?How is AFC?
Yes and it’s good!
Dude nice vid. I'm looking to get this for underwater work. How's the image skew?
I’m not sure what you mean by skew and I’ve never shot underwater work 😭 sorry bruv!
All ik is the IQ is incredible
@@AnthonyRodriguezz I was wondering about the rolling shutter skew, if you notice it when panning or handholding the camera.
@@tbuchanable oooohhhg
Yeah the rolling shutter in bad but not worse than the other cameras in its price range.
I’d assume for water shots it’s not a problem at all as it’s not really possible to pan and whips the camera as fast as on land 😂
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Awesome thanks! PS gotta figure out how you keep your Komodo so clean : ) Mine looks like it's been living under a bridge for the past 6 months.
@@tbuchanable I’ll be making a rig breakdown soon ;)
What anamorphic lenses would you suggest to use with this cam?
Any 1.5x lens would be great! I always recommend the aivascope adaptwr
Which Panasonic lenses have good AF motors? Which AF lens did you use here?
I don’t use Panasonic lenses.
Most lenses made today have good motors so I don’t really pay attention to any of that
Do u ue canon lenses kn the ljmkx and video autofocus?
I use canon lenses sometime and the autofocus works great, yes
I got gh4, 5 and 6 now will wait for s5iix maaaan saved me for pulling the trigger to get a7siii 😅
A7siii is still a beast!
@@AnthonyRodriguezz i know. But the cost of A7siii body plus 2x memory card is like s5iix plus sigma 24-70 and 2x memory card already. 😅
Nice video🙌. What conversion lut to rec709 do you use?
bit.ly/3RAbdHa
Phantom LUTs! I talk about them towards the end of the videos 👌🏼
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Thank you man🙏🏻
@@tomefilms3438 Ofcourse! Actually making a whole video on those LUTs this week so consider subscribing and stay tuned 😎
I have both the S5ii & R5C, in my experience I've found the Canon to produce a sharper 4k image, assuming from the 8k downsample. I also have found the R5C footage in CLOG3 to be very easy to get the look I want. I do photo and video so it was a perfect option for me. I really love the S5ii also for the price, it does produce great looking results, the 4k 60 crop is the only annoying thing but it can be worked around. I also may need to play around with some diffrent profiles but for VLog at 4,000 iso the image can get a bit noisy if the scene is too dark especially it seems when in the 4k 60 crop its extra noticeable. Typically pulling the shadows back down in post fixes it, but then you lose that dynamic range in the shadows. I have not had this issue with the canon, it comes out so clean and noise free.
Any photo video software, can equalize the differences...
Interesting information. I've mostly heard people complaining that the S5 series has too sharp of an image.
@jmac2050 No believe me the canon is way better in low light noise performance, sure you can add noise reduction, but that destroys the sharpness. The canon typically just makes anything look good. Obviously if you get a Sony a7s3 that will be superior in low light of course
Do keep in mind you will need external power for the R5C.... so the s5ii is the better run and gun if you just wanna grab and go, and the stabilization is also much better compared to the R5C having only electronic stabilization option
r5c the best
Hey, this vid was shot in V Log?
I want great image for video and also I want convenience and future proof at the same time.. I am very new and have not invested in any camera brand but want to go either with Lumix or Sony...
If you were me what would you choose and why??
I think the idea of future proofing when it comes to camera bodies is a little bit silly tbh… alot of times as you grow, the camera body will grow(change) with you.
I’d say get the s5ii as it’s really good and affordable
Good very good 👍, can you add more footage please
Like to this specific video?
I don’t think it’s possible
According to CineD Labtests the S5ii actually has more DR than the R5C and is very close to C70. I'm also surprised how well they matched together with that lut, like there's barely any difference.
Yeah the phantom LUTs are special for sure!
And that’s very interesting actually! CineD lab tests don’t always translate directly to real world use, but that’s great to hear regardless!
@@contentm3893 you’re literally commenting on everyone else’s comments! 🤦🏽♂️😂
Thanks for the algorithm push buddy!
@@contentm3893 You can read about the codec and testing methods used yourself on their website.
@@contentm3893 It’s the exact same sensor as the original S5, that sensor also goes in the S1 and S1H…
@@contentm3893 The S1H uses a 12bit ADC which might causes that extra bit but it isn’t noticeably. The S5 and S5ii use the same sensor, people have already done tests with them and there is no difference in dynamic range. So you can look up the S5 and R5C and see how they compare. Tom Holland also did a small video comparing them and he found the same thing.
Hey bro! I need your help. I also have the S5ii I recorded a video with a MOV file. I transferred it to my Mac book, I air drop it to my phone it wouldn’t only if I save it to my iCloud files. So I do that and I can’t even open or download the video through my iCloud files. So then I tried switching it to a MP4 file and the airdropped worked. Is one file better than the other ?? Or do I need to buy a iPhone sd card reader to transfer videos to my phone?
Hey!
I don’t really know what could be the issue there. I’ve never had to transfer my raw clips to my iPhone
@@AnthonyRodriguezz okay I guess I’ll just stick my Mac book then. Also do you know if there’s a new firmware update for the camera ?
@@kriscalderon586 I don’t, unfortunately :/
Good review. Got my attention. So, if I DO need 4k,60, what’s your opinion on the right camera? Just curious to know what you’d lean towards, considering all factors - price, stability, portability, etc - for b-roll?
Honestly I’d get a used c70. One of the best cameras I’ve used but if your budget isn’t their you can find an a7siii for pretty cheap used or wait for Panasonics flagship
But I’d save up just a little extra and get the c70 and speedboost that sucker!
The 4K 60 in this camera is perfectly fine though and the crop doesn’t bother me that much. Actually challenges the way I shoot a little bit, which is interesting
@@AnthonyRodriguezz - thanks, man. I’m really too green to even figure out what I need right now, TBH. Cost isn’t necessarily a factor, but I love the idea of getting a decent-priced cam + lenses that someone (you) feels good about right out of the box.
I’d love to see how much of a crop you’re talking about. If it’s enough for you to mention it, then it makes me wonder. Also, how’s the audio?
@@nelsonduffle496 the crop is 1.5x and the audio preamps are the same as any other mirrorless camera but the features and flexibility you have with audio is really good!
You won’t be disappointed with this camera, that’s for sure!
Were any of the issues mentioned addressed with firmware yet?
Nope…
Very impressive
🙏🏼
Thanks for the review! I see your serious with the cinematography.. you have a C70 and Red camera..
I get what you shared about the s5ii over the r5c.. but honestly I feel like the strongest PROS for the R5c where left out of this video and more bias.
The s5ii being $1800 right now and having 6k open gate with way better battery life and alot of the pros you mention is killer BUT.
Where that extra price came in for the R5C which is as of now $3600! Is the 8K at 60p full frame (s5ii caps at 6k 30p full frame).. also the 4k 120p for super slow motion, that every wedding videographer wants / s5ii caps at 4K 60p.. lastly is the built in 12bit Internal Raw recording! This is the biggest feature which other cameras costing $6k have.. whereas the S5ii and other like Eos R6 mkii and A7s3 can do BUT externally with a big clunky monitor/ recorder.
And most buyer mindset getting the R5C will want to stabilize with gimbal or slider or tripod
So just to add these so people can choose their weapons wisely.
I very much so do not think 8k 60p nor the 12 bit canon raw which has RIDICULOUSLY large file sizes is relevant to most anybody.
The raw hardly has more benefits and is huge and who really needs 8k 60. Once you’re in those resolutions you can only shoot in raw so the file sizes again are insane. Also, idk many wedding filmmakers shooting in 4k 120
This is something I definitely considered and ruled it out entirely because of those reasons. Not having a crop at 4k 60, which most people would actually use, is unfortunate and a benefit of the r5c
Well first.. how much bigger is it than BRAW which I shoot on my 6k Pro for commercials and promo reels.. t
The raw files are NOT as big as CDNG Raw as in the older cameras with raw.. Braw and canons Raw Light I'm sure are NOT big.. and they have multiple compressions to cater to those with limited space.
Maybe I'm coming from camera that already shoot Raw and have SSD to record to vs. Those without and it's almost the new wave to have SSD as more cinema cameras are recording to SSD, specifically for purpose of big raw files.
2nd, again when you say who needs 8k 60 raw.. sound like you tubers who main purpose is to upload to TH-cam and shoot less priority gigs.
Filmmakers who choose arri, red, black magic SHOOT RAW.. so the Canon r5c again is catering to filmmakers just in a Body that is appealing to you tubers who are getting disappointed because it's actually a cinema camera.
@@onfirecinemas 1. Im not mainly a TH-camr ✌🏼
2. The files sizes are probably 3x as large as Braw
3. You mentioned 8k 60 raw and then proceeded to talk about Arri cameras, which prove my point entirely. Also, the canon raw is pretty trash and arri doesn’t have raw 😉
It’s not even close to being “an actual cinema camera”
Sony a74 or s5 2? What would you choose? For wedding events and commercials , Shortfilms and decent photography?
If your not going to benefit from the ibis or open gate then the a7IV
@@AnthonyRodriguezz thanks a lot
Dang, I LOVE the R5C. The image is out of this world. The battery issue is overblown. I brought a million batteries to 2 shoots and only ever needed to change batteries once...
…. What were your shooting??
4K 24 fps in All-I will only give you 40 minutes of recording.
In my experience 4k 24 will give an hour with an lp-e6nh it’s only when using 50/60p in any resolution that battery life drops to 45mins.
I don’t know the length of your shoots, I was only able to get 50mins maximum 4k from R5C😢 so every time I have to work with R5C I use a dummy battery. Not really ideal for a small set.
Great footage... Did you use FLAT, V-Log or which mode? Thanks
I used the v-log profile, yes 👍🏼
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Is it true that in V-Log you need to overexpose by a couple of stops in order to avoid noise in the shadows?
@@marcelocharras1410 I’m not too familiar w/ v-log enough yet to make any statements but what I have noticed is that theirs significantly more detail in the shadows than my r5c.
I do overexpose by a full stop sometimes even a half a stop
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Thanks!
Totally fooled me with the Title LOL
Hahaha plot twist!
R5c was the waste 😏
I mean technically it did serve me well on a bunch of shoots, so not a COMPLETE waste 🤷🏽♂️
Is the open gate 10bit on the s5ii?
Yes
We wanna see the S5IIX
If Lumix wants to send me one 🤷🏽♂️
I purchased the s5ii and don’t plan on getting the x 😭
Would you rather have the FX3 or S5 II? are the 60p crop modes bad?
If I only had one camera, I would begrudgingly choose the fx3 but even then, I wouldn’t choose that camera, personally.
If I had an A cam already I would definitely choose the s5ii as it has more features that are useful for run n gun and is more of a “cinema camera” than the fx3, oddly enough.
The crop is annoying but manageable and not a deal breaker for me
@@AnthonyRodriguezz I have a regular r5 now but the wobbles I’m sick of for real how much does it crop for 60
@@JOINTHEORG it’s an apsc crop 1.5x
You can also shoot 4:3 in crop with 60fps
@@JOINTHEORG 4K 48 fps is an even better option and is extremely underrated!
@@AnthonyRodriguezz that mode doesn’t crop?
Hi Anthony I also Have the LUMIX S5 M2 and the DJI R/S 3 Mini gimbal Can you connect the Cameras Bluetooth to the gimbal to use the record button, I am struggling to get it to work? Thanks Steve L in UK.
Bluetooth control doesn't work on Panasonic cams. However they do have built in tracking with nothing else needed! There are a few s5ii and rs3 mini videos on my channel showing this off
@@TerryWarfield Hi Terry thanks for the answer I will visit your site and follow your posts for more details. Steve
I’ll check them out! There definitely should be an update for Panasonic cameras soon though
Very interesting 🤔
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I will get 2 of these bad boys for vmix streaming if they fix the HDMI lagging issue
Change your audio through hdmi setting and it should be better!
I see how amazing this camera is and I’m wanting to buy it so badly. The only problem I find is that the zoom lenses are wildly expensive. Or I’m unable to find the lenses in Australia. The lumix s pro 70-200 f2.8 is $4000 AUD, which is more expensive than the Sony GMII equivalent. Anyone else have thoughts on this?
Adapt a canon EF 70-200 it’s what I do
How useful is this camera for photography work?
I’m actually going to be making a whole video on how the s5ii made me want to shoot photos again!
I’m actually not a photographer by trade, but there’s one feature on the s5ii that makes me get out there and use it. The real time lut feature!
The S5II and S1H have a much better dynamic range than the Canon R5c. CineD and slashcam have a really good review about this topic.
That’s good to hear! I don’t trust their test toooo much but after using it a bit I have noticed it’s better!
The sensor used in the S5II actually has better DR than the R5C. I'm guessing the distribution of stops above and below middle grey is just a bit different than the Canon's, so you may have not been exposing ideally for the camera.
That’s possible! I did just get the camera.
I used exposure tools when exposing the image but still a possibility. After messing with the footage thought the r5c footage does seem to have more latitude in the highlights and slightly more preservation of detail in the shadows. But the difference is negligible
@@contentm3893 🤦🏽♂️
@@contentm3893 did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
@@contentm3893 the R5C is actually terrible 🤦🏽♂️
You’re not providing any correct factual information. Frankly, it seems like your just trying to justify it in your mind about the purchasing decision you made.
@@AnthonyRodriguezz It isn't. I'm sorry. It is a great piece of technology.
I love my cats 2! I'm sick making the decision between these 2
😂🙌🏼
Bring an interesting point to you gus. In China R5c is a lot cheaper than FX3. about $1000 usd cheaper. But here it is the opposite. r5c is about 800-900 usd more expensive.
That’s very interesting
this camera is tempting b/c of the open gate feature. However, I wish it let you do it with external recorders too.
Open gate is amazing!
I never really use external recorders
@@AnthonyRodriguezz I have the GFX100s w/ the external recorder you can record 12bit ProRes RAW which is amazing. If this camera would let you do that in open gate that would be amazing.
@@alexiscuarezma no hybrid camera allows you to record ext in open gate due to an hdmi limitation.
@@loudmotion5639 Fujifilm X-H2S allows open gate w/ the Atoms Ninja V+
yeah it's really tempting as long as you are not looking at the terrible rolling shutter performance
helpful
Thanks! Glad it provided value for ya 💪🏼
Will be putting out more content on the s5ii soon so stay tuned! 😏
Does pdaf work when shooting 6k open gate?
Yes it does!
Do a video on zoom lenses
Just on zooms?
Seems a bit generic, no?
@@AnthonyRodriguezz not when I'm deciding on Lumix or Sigma for video social experiments and landscape and macro and portraits. I'm new and think the 24mm to 70mm s pro then either the 70 to 200mm 300m lumix vs the I think it's 100mm to 300m sigma.
I have the Panasonic s5ii otw. Can't decide on lense. I just had my first kid too so I want to film her and take photos of her alot too.
And what about the 24mm to 120mm lumix.
Talking about slow motion BTW... Lumix S5II and S5IIX don't have new Phase Detect AF in 1080p full frame 50,60,100 and 120 FPS but only old Contrast AF which is the biggest disappointment... So for some reason people who prefer to shoot 1080p FF in slow-mo from 50 to 120 fps they should do that with old glitchy Contrast base AF. Same for all of those who were hoping to upscale 1080p 50-120 fps to 4k - no PDAF. And taking into account it's a hybrid video-oriented camera, it looks like without a firmware update in the next 1-3 months almost perfect camera becomes garbage.
To say it’d be “garbage” without a firmware update is a bit dramatic but I hear you, that’s definitely annoying!
I’m confident that will be fixed. Also shooting in 1080 so you can update is not the best workflow in general but I understand
What autofocus settings are you using? 👍🏼
I turn the sensitivity and speed to -1
For talking heads I’ll turn the sensitivity to -2
Sweet. I’ll give it a go. Nice work bro
@@chadsiford2910 thanks man! Let me know how it goes
The title of this video could be very misleading. It sounded to me as if you were saying that buying the Lumix S5II was a waste of money
I could see how you would see that and frankly, that was sort of the point!
I never specified the s5ii wasted my money, which would’ve been a lie. I left it open ended and later explained in the video… it builds curiosity 😉
Actually your failure to adjust the autofocus shows how it works, and it looks very good to me. I don't notice hunting or pulsation, it works very reliably, and for someone who doesn't wave his hands in front of his face while talking, this is quite ok, especially if he's showing some items and needs fast and precise autofocus when he puts them in front of the lens.
At this price, Panasonic has no competitors at the moment. I also found out in some video that canon ef lenses with a sigma adapter have excellent autofocus on S5II, as a native lens.
The only competitor would be the canon r8 buy even then the s5ii edges it out in a lot of areas!
Also, the only reason the AF didn’t look as bad as it was is because I overlayed it with a lot of B-roll 😅😂
I have the Sigma adapter for Sony, (though I shoot video on Panasonic). The EF lenses work great with decent AF but just watch the focus breathing which, for video, is pretty horrible. Other than that I can't recommend the adapter enough.
@@followtheboat the focus breathing has to do with the lens your using rather than the adapter!
Also, I don’t care too much about focus breathing unless I’m doing critical narrative work and that almost never happens!