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Canon R5C vs Lumix S5 | Which is better FOR VIDEO?

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  • The Lumix S5 is one of the best cameras I have ever used BUT I wanted to see what the Canon R5C was like in comparison for video! So I captured some test footage and compared these two awesome cameras, and this is what I think...
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  • @SamHolland
    @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Which one is right for you??? 🎥🎥 (Also... I'm sorry for the Canon wobble)

    • @jessecumberledge4530
      @jessecumberledge4530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      the S1h is better.

    • @patrick.munich
      @patrick.munich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hi Sam, as in the last comparison with the A7s III, I‘m really suprised to hear that the R5c is less sharp than the camera you are comparing it to. This doesn‘t match my experience at all and I‘m starting to think it might have to to with that old EF 16-35 you were using. I don‘t think that I have to tell you how much sharper the native RF glass is and that it might be needed to unlock the full potential. I tried to pair the S5 of a friend with the R5c two weeks ago for an documentary of an orchestra and it was just a horrible experience due to the Panasonics’ limitations. We used the R5c with the RF 15-35, 50 1.2 and 85 1.2 while the Panasonic had the 20-60 on it as well as the Sigma 85 1.4. Everything was shot in 4k and the Canon was just way sharper due to its oversampled image from 8k. I didn‘t know that much about the S5 before and thought it is a great video camera, because it is hyped so much everywhere but there were key aspects, which really annoyed me: the crop in 4k60 rendered the 85 pretty much unusable for the shots I planned with it and I did not have extra lenses for shooting in cropped mode. The autofocus was just terrible compared to the R5c and I also discovered that „unlimited“ recording only applies for 8-bit, which meant that recording the complete concert in the end was only possible in 8 bit 4:2:0. That is a huge step down from the 10-bit 4:2:2 the Canon provided. The stage had dark areas that startet to show banding, when you pushed the shadows a bit, so I had quite a hard time matching them in post. Yes, the Canon uses a lot of power, but thats a non-issue since I‘m using the Anker Powebank in the rig anyways. So coming from a truly „limitless“ camera, which can do every file format full frame in every framerate for as long as your 2TB CFexpress card has space, the S5 is just a huge step down.

    • @jessecumberledge4530
      @jessecumberledge4530 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patrick.munich yes the s1h would be more of a direct competitor to the r5c. You do trade sharpness (R5C) for some dynamic range (S1H). I had great luck matching canon to panny using davinci color management. I do despise the 4k60 crop on my panasonic. Really hurts my workflow.

    • @patrick.munich
      @patrick.munich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jessecumberledge4530 yeah I‘m with you on that, then again I‘m also doing a lot of photos and the 45 MP with Dual Pixel AF II and 20 fps in combination with my RF 85 1.2 would probably blow away the S1H in that regard. For me the Canon is a much better „hybrid“, since there are almost no compromises on the photo side of things.

    • @NickHimo
      @NickHimo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I managed to guess which one was which. But I actually preferred B. Great vid Sam!

  • @OzTalksHW
    @OzTalksHW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The image stabilization gave away the camera a and camera b comparison in the beginning haha. Thanks for the great content. Had my S5 for 3 weeks and I'm so glad I bought it. Great upgrade from my G7

    • @flaviopresutti
      @flaviopresutti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Congrats! Any advice with the S5? Mine it's coming brand new next week to me!

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Oz 🎥🤩

    • @OzTalksHW
      @OzTalksHW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@flaviopresutti Definitely check out Sam's setup video guide for video! I went through that and I'm pretty comfortable with the UI and settings, and it's pretty much prepares you to start shooting right away. Good luck!

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤩🎥🙏🏻

    • @flaviopresutti
      @flaviopresutti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@OzTalksHW Thanks. As soon as I have it un My hands I will watch the videos again. I'm going to spend many hours preparing and testing it! Greetings from Uruguay

  • @Aviciiz
    @Aviciiz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I'm very surprised to see the the Lumix, a sub €2000,- camera has a more cinematic looking image than the actual cinema camera. Colours and dynamic range look more organic, making the R5c look like a regular DSLR imo.

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The S5 I think is the best value for money camera you can buy 🤩🙏🏻🎥

  • @4ki543
    @4ki543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The S5 is an absolute beast of a camera! And v-log is incredible BTW

  • @davidmurray5926
    @davidmurray5926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Excellent, informative video. The S5 is superior.
    I know you mentioned cost but it’s crazy that you can get 2 x S5 bodies, a 20-60 f3.5-5.6, a 35 f1.8 and an 85 f1.8 for less than the cost of the R5c body.
    Oh and it’s still got a micro HDMI 😉

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks David! Yeh the micro HDMI thing isn’t great 😩😂🎥

  • @shazbk7616
    @shazbk7616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    B is my favorite, it's organic, film-like, with better dynamic range.

  • @raksh9
    @raksh9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So glad to watch this. The R5C looks like a very good hybrid camera and probably edges out the S5 for autofocus, but the new S5 II is a lot better than the S5's AF, and the video quality of the S5 is better overall. The video quality of the S5 is superb, and it's surprising how far we have come with delivering a very high quality image that is fit for broadcast and theatre screening.

  • @Zmywak
    @Zmywak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I sold my S5 and went for A7SIII - i was totally upset with S5's autofocus. Yeah, yeah - be better videographer, etc. But I heavily rely on autofocus. A7SIII focuses instantly, but the image quality is way below S5.

    • @markshirley01
      @markshirley01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fredriksvard2603 is the 24-105 definitely much better than the 20-60

  • @leosurovec1170
    @leosurovec1170 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Sam.
    I've just ordered my R5C yesterday with 3 RF lenses: 15-35mm 2.8 L, 50mm 1.2 L & 70-200mm 2.8 L . I'm doing both photos & video jobs.

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice! 🤩👌🏻🎥 that’s exciting!!

    • @contentm3893
      @contentm3893 ปีที่แล้ว

      How are you liking the R5c?

  • @ScottEdwards
    @ScottEdwards 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That S5 blows me away every time! Seems a no brainer with the cost as well!

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeh man it really is an incredible camera 🤩🙏🏻🎥

  • @starnutron6147
    @starnutron6147 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After lots of research finally I got my first camera which is Lumix S1 bought it for around $1500 brand new. Thank you Sam

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice! 🤩🎉🎥

  • @EmusicFrench
    @EmusicFrench 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I sold my C200 3900€ and EOS R + 24-70 EF. I bought an S5 used, Sigma 24-70, ninja V used, Gh5 with sigma 18-35 and a nikon Z6 with kit lens. I don't regret my decision at all. By the way, the 4k 8bits is way better on the panas and nikon than on the C200. 4k was ok on the EOS R but with a 1.7 crop...Thanks for your videos Sam, and for showing that the brand new hype gear is not always the gear you need.

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! 🤩🙏🏻🎥

    • @Aviciiz
      @Aviciiz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting, I almost bought a C200 but went for the S5 because of the 10bit. 8bit wasn’t cutting it and raw was just too much for my work

  • @apocryphal_man
    @apocryphal_man 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Enjoying the videos! Btw the S5 does have 10 bit in 50/60p (just 420 not 422). There is no difference when grading to my eye at all.

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! 🙏🏻

    • @ChrisFlores22
      @ChrisFlores22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SamHolland s5 has 10 bit 4K 60. It goes to 8 bit in c4k 60

  • @johnclay7644
    @johnclay7644 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    good question Sam. R5c is more cine geared kit, S5 is sort of hybrid. informative comparison.

  • @Photovintageguy
    @Photovintageguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The S5 has better highlight rolloff, but the rc5 has a fantastic image as well. So at this point it comes down what you prefer. Actual quality is not much of an issue.

  • @aylenstudios
    @aylenstudios ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ibis gave it away, camera A is the r5c, and I did prefer the image off it, and only by a tiny margin in a side by side comparison! Amazing job by panasonic.

  • @SpencerWhiteman
    @SpencerWhiteman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did the R5C dirty in the opening sequence with that earthquake footage lol. Panasonic's S series are incredibly special.

  • @studioatlanta
    @studioatlanta 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've always been a Canon guy, since 1983. I just recently purchased the S5. I really like it so far, but doubt I'll switch because of the expensive. I'm glad I can use all my Canon EF lenses on the S% with adapter!

  • @AnishRajah
    @AnishRajah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Knew that you were going to make this 😂 I have both so I'm happy with them 😁 Best dual camera setup for my workflow 👍🏼

  • @RolandAyala
    @RolandAyala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Too bad Panasonic AF is what it is -- really limits S5 and SH1. I had both, but prefer an actual cinecam if going to manually rack focus. No internal RAW for S5, and I only shoot RAW when cannot control lighting (e.g., outdoors) or in fluid situations where it is impractical to set WB. You obviously weren't shooting RAW video with the Canon in this video.
    Ignoring AF and lack of internal RAW, S5 otherwise holds its own against R5C if don't need the 8K and faster frame rates for more creative possibilities. For you're style of shooting (in this video anyway, handheld, vlog style), I think better off with an R5. R5C is not optimized/intended for this style of shooting. The R5 will give you the IBIS and address the wobble issue (or, w/ R5C you can stabilize in post if shoot at 6K or 8K and still have more rez than the S5). Most cinematographers (the target audience for R5C) don't want IBIS because it's a stills feature that fixes one problem and creates other problems that are difficult to workaround when shooting video. R5C is a cinecam that happens to also be a fantastic stills camera with uncompromising IQ.

  • @chronocross85
    @chronocross85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I shoot on the R5C, R5 and Blackmagic 6K. Shooting on the canon is more easier but I like the image quality more on the blackmagic.

  • @matadormartin
    @matadormartin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cheers for doing this Sam. I have a Canon C70 as a main camera at the moment and absolutely love it (I’m video only and for some stuff I prefer the ND’s, battery,extra buttons etc), when the R5c was announced I was in the market for a second camera so pre-ordered it. As I was waiting for it I started to wonder if it’s just too expensive for a camera I’ll only use as a b-cam, and after some research ended up cancelling it and getting an S5. I use the cinematch plugin to match them and I’ve been so impressed with the S5. Such incredible value for money.

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Liam. Yeah it’s amazing for the price. The R5C needs to be like a C70 but with full frame. I’d probably get one then

    • @Aviciiz
      @Aviciiz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How do you like the S5 compared to your C70 in therms of image?

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I much prefer the image of the S5 all day long. And the colours are so much easier to grade too. R5C was a lot better than the C70 in my opinion when it came to image. Probably the cropped sensor too. 🎥

    • @Aviciiz
      @Aviciiz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SamHolland Strange, C70 is Canon's best sensor since it is the same as in the C300 mark 3 which has a DGO sensor and supposedly the best DR.

    • @matadormartin
      @matadormartin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Aviciiz The C70 supports Clog2, which has greater dynamic range than Clog3, which is why they don’t put it in the R5c as the sensor has less dynamic range (this comes from a Canon rep). Still, it is subjective at best when used for web content. Personally I would take a C70 over the S5 or R5c any day just because it has professional level battery life without add ons, built in ND’s, better dynamic range, more assignable buttons, and built in mini-XLR’s for multiple audio inputs. It’s not as sharp as the S5 or R5C though, I would call the image ‘organic’ instead. Personally I love it, but a lot of people producing web content don’t need all that stuff though and can get by without it. The S5 I think is an absolute bargain and if you need to upgrade at some point, then there we go you’ll upgrade.

  • @jcml2015
    @jcml2015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    watching this video, but once I realize that I made the right choice buying the lumix s5 a year ago, this camera is my favorite, it works so well with the kit lens for both photos and videos, I recently got the lumix 35mm 1.8 lens and I'm getting even more sharp in the photos and videos, finally the panasonic just needs to adjust the auto focus a little and this camera will be the best full frame in the world for the price.

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True! 🤩 thanks for watching 🙏🏻🎥

  • @MarioCastillion
    @MarioCastillion ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is so convincing to me.
    The main thing which impresses me is the stability of the image. The micro jitters of the R5C are so horrendous that it turns my stomach. An absolute no-no for me.
    Thank you for the comparison, Sam. I've learned a lot today.

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheers, Mario. Both great cameras in their own way. Thanks for watching and commenting 🤩🙏🏻🎥

    • @contentm3893
      @contentm3893 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SamHolland Nice hit piece on the R5c. The R5c does not have micro jitters. Nice of you to clear that up in the comment section. One is without IS and the other with IS. Micro jitters come into play from IS or IBIS that can't handle small movement or no movement correctly. You would be better off giving an accurate comparison and taking this one down.

  • @tomerben-arosh3023
    @tomerben-arosh3023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You take the shots with adapter ring to EF mount and use 16-35.
    But actually one of the best feature on the R mirrorless ecosystem is the whole new RF glass! Its much sharper than the EF older sisters..
    The glass sit much closer to the sensor, and it makes the great canon EF lenses looks blurry next to them.. especially when you zooming into the small details.
    The R5C doing a downsample to the picture from the Full frame 8K sensor in almost every mode- that alone makes the picture must looks much sharper in almost every compassion..
    And about the color:
    Did you test the R5C new RAW 12 bit LT files?
    12bit 4:2:2 -because it’s should be an absolutely HUGE thing for video editors who likes to play with color correction in post.
    And one of best features on the all new canons sensors it’s the AMAZING Dual pixel Auto focus system..
    If you are a video creator, and work alone it’s a game changer! You can trust that system and let you focus in the directing process..
    And last- about the IS.. you can choose two modes for digital IS, that works very well, especially with the support RF Lenses with IS when it used their coordinates to correct the motion..
    And remember that sensor with IS in a professional Cinema cameras can be bad for video working..
    Makes soft corners when the sensor moves..
    Filmmakers always use dedicated gears to stabilizing camera movements.

    • @leosurovec1170
      @leosurovec1170 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great info buddy. Thanks. I Just bought R5c with 3 RF lenses.

  • @amermeleitor
    @amermeleitor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "A" camera seems to be sharper, but it could be only a setting or post processing thing. It have reddish / punchier colors than B camera
    "B" camera have more neutral color and more neutral sharpening setting straight out camera
    You cannot compare with the clips only. Only when processing the files you could know which file fall apart first and which stand more manipulation of color / sharpening / exposure / lifting shadows / recover highlights / color shifts / etc

  • @thisisreelproduction
    @thisisreelproduction 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Great video, I had ordered the r5c but in the meantime I bought the lumix s5 and I cancelled the order for the r5c and I don't regret it at all. I had a Sony A7s III and I like the colors on the lumix much better. My main camera is a RED komodo and from the lumix I can get an image that is most similar in character to the RED colours in my eyes.

    • @bradleykussy
      @bradleykussy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I also shoot komodo and I have the s1h. Thought about swapping the s1h to the r5c but not sure now haha 😅

    • @contentm3893
      @contentm3893 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bradleykussy Do you trust this video? All his sample videos have been tweaked and he is biased to the S5.

    • @contentm3893
      @contentm3893 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude - Did you really cancel your order because of this video? If you have a Komodo and think the S5 is comparable then you need to sell that Komodo.

    • @bradleykussy
      @bradleykussy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@contentm3893 I'm selling the S1H to invest in a Raptor kit to pair with my Komodo as I'm getting alot more narrative work.
      I'd keep my S1H over the R5C though.

    • @contentm3893
      @contentm3893 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bradleykussy NICE. Why would you keep the S1H over the R5c when you can use EF and RF glass on the RED's? I like the S1H by the way. It doesn't have the higher frame rates as like the R5c.

  • @angryrabbitproductions1690
    @angryrabbitproductions1690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A was my favorite image. The skin tones looked better imo. That said the Panasonic is a heck of a camera. I can’t wait to see what Panasonic will bring for the S1H Mk2.

  • @solomonndah9500
    @solomonndah9500 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much Sam for comparing the S5 with various cameras. I particularly enjoyed the the video you compared it with Sony a7s3. I just recently got the lumix s5. Your videos really helped me in making the decision.
    My name is Solomon, I'm writing from Nigeria.

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Solomon. So pleased the videos helped with your decision. What a great camera! 🤩🎥 thanks for watching. Stay tuned 💪🏻

  • @jw_film
    @jw_film 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great comparison here Sam. I love my S5 but there are lots of features from the R5C I would like to see in Panasonic's line up. Definitely some food for thought. Already waiting for your next video 🙂

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks James 🤩🙏🏻🎥 next video is on the way very soon

  • @Write_Film_Edit
    @Write_Film_Edit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the last year I've used the Canon R5 and the R5 C extensively, and I own a Panasonic S1 (same sensor as the S5). There's some things about the Canon's that can sometimes make life easier (mainly autofocus), but otherwise I much prefer the image and features of my S1. I really want to see what the next gen of Panasonic's S series looks like, and how they compete with Canon and Sony's current lineup. If they can keep the excellent dynamic range, speed up the sensor readout for less rolling shutter and full-frame 4k60, and switch to phase detect autofocus, the S1 MkII would be close to perfect IMO

  • @matt.banton
    @matt.banton ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seriously considering switching to the Lumix s5iix from the canon R6. I've been binge watching all your videos! great content :)

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you 🤩🙏🏻🎥

  • @JonathanPalfrey
    @JonathanPalfrey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow that difference in stabilisation is really noticeable. I prefer the Panasonic’s lifted mid tones too.
    I think in the past Canon colours were a real advantage however that’s not the case anymore and in other areas such as dynamic range they really are still lacking.

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So true! 👌🏻🎥

  • @Sweetnuglyproductions
    @Sweetnuglyproductions 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I definitely like the color spectrum on the lumix. That’s how I could tell

  • @jcml2015
    @jcml2015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video my brother, I'm very happy with my lumix s5, great stabilization and images 👍

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. Great camera 🤩🎥

  • @steveschnetzler5471
    @steveschnetzler5471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was hard for me to tell the difference, after youtube got through with it. For me, stabilization and battery life are most important when I want to go light (which is most the time), so the S5 is still king. The lower price does not hurt.

  • @jakekeele
    @jakekeele 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m really enjoying your S5 videos! Love to see what’s possible with an entry level camera.

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Jake. Plenty more S5 content to come very soon 🙏🏻🤩🎥

  • @HiethGeorge
    @HiethGeorge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So for what it is worth here is my view the detail is better on A (which is the R5c due to the wobble 😁😁) B is softer and to be honest I prefer it even though I am Canon as you know - great video buddy and the price difference also makes the S5 a winner !

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man! 🤩🎥🙏🏻

  • @PizzlesTechTime
    @PizzlesTechTime ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am currently in this debacle myself....😊 I'm shooting on a Panasonic GH5 and I really am enticed by the Canon R5C. They both are tempting

    • @hugocalvo8287
      @hugocalvo8287 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      get the s5ii you also get 6k internally !

  • @JonackFilm
    @JonackFilm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The S5 is far better Option in my opinion. Price and dynamic Range.

  • @Max_Sky2024
    @Max_Sky2024 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the test!) Look 0:43 at the grey wall on the right screen... The wall is green!)))

  • @dapunkof1975
    @dapunkof1975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my S5 and when you shoot prores raw, it is other worldly!

  • @mransi
    @mransi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just a little correction, the S5 does shoot in C4k 50p 10 bit 420, not 8 bit, which is great, the con is just the crop, which is annoying and it makes the image noisier, but other than that it does look great. Good video man !

    • @contentm3893
      @contentm3893 ปีที่แล้ว

      No crop on the R5c up to 4K 120p with sound.

  • @NathanHallGadgetsGreatness
    @NathanHallGadgetsGreatness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just off the top, without knowing which is which - The image seemed more pleasing with camera A on the shots with the dude in the image. I liked the skin tones better. On the other shots, camera B looked better to me.

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Nathan 🙏🏻🎥

  • @BryceKoebel
    @BryceKoebel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro as soon as I saw the difference in steadiness it was over LOL

  • @nuculabs
    @nuculabs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to switch to Lumix too from R6, it's cheaper to purchase a Lumix with some sigma lenses that I use for hobby rather than RF lenses...

  • @_icyhotcoffee
    @_icyhotcoffee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video was great. I just ordered an S5 and this was super reassuring.

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Jason. Glad this helped 🤩🙏🏻🎥 enjoy your new camera.

  • @jz_glass
    @jz_glass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Liked A. But the difference was minor. I kind of waffled and just picked one. The difference did not appear to justify the price bump. For me anyways.

  • @gr8reels
    @gr8reels 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Camera B is my favorite but almost identical. Cab B was a wee but softer/more cinematic and less jittery in stabilization

  • @andreasharoupias
    @andreasharoupias 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    would be nice to see how you color matched those 2 log profiles :)

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good idea. I’ll work on that video 🤩🎥🙏🏻

    • @andreasharoupias
      @andreasharoupias 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SamHolland your findings will be really interesting mate

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you 🙏🏻🎥🤩 anything in particular you want just let me know and I’ll try and include it in the video

  • @jayclas4023
    @jayclas4023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Canon is softer and had a red cast in most of the footage here, I would've love if you removed some of that red but still another exceptional video🙌

  • @DannyBligh
    @DannyBligh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked camera B.... LUMIX!! I likes the warmer hue it has. And that wobble from the Canon is so annoying -_- Not your fault obviously

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😬 party my fault! 😂🎥🙏🏻

  • @LakeHowellDigitalVideo
    @LakeHowellDigitalVideo ปีที่แล้ว

    I looked at the video samples... And was like -- wow, the wobbly stuff must be the Canon. Yeah, sure enough. The Lumix stabilization is legendary at this point.

  • @henakos
    @henakos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please do video R5C vs lumix s5II!

  • @jaymills1720
    @jaymills1720 ปีที่แล้ว

    Camera A! More magenta, brighter shadows , smoother roll off.

  • @MarvinCrisostomo_09
    @MarvinCrisostomo_09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats is so beautiful mate...

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Marvin 🤩🙏🏻🎥

  • @FrankValchiria
    @FrankValchiria 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    blows my mind that a 5k camera is not much greater than a s5 .

    • @50450720
      @50450720 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The R5c can shoot 8k internally.
      Comparing its 8k sensor to a 4k sensor in 4k mode isn't really what the R5c is about. If you compare the best output that both can offer, the results might be different.
      It'd a bit like saying my ford focus is better that a Farrari if we limit both to 50mph !

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@50450720
      You wont see much difference unless you punch in or have an 8k monitor, frankly, in what world do you even need 8k?
      Even cinema still shoots mostly in 4k DCI

    • @50450720
      @50450720 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SMGJohn that's like saying you don't need 4k if you only have a 1080 monitor,
      I had the exact same debate when 4k came out..
      8k tv's are here and getting cheaper. But the real advantage of 8k is in the ability to crop on a 4k timeliness. For someone who shoots a lot of head and shoulder interviews this is a real bonus. It gives me a optional punch in with no loss of quality.

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@50450720
      4k made sense for cropping or down sampling the footage to 1080p.
      You can debate all you want, reality does not give a flying shit about your debate, majority of media consumed are 1080p, most people on Netflix are unwilling to pay extra just to watch UHD.
      I am not sure what your argument even is, I am a realist I stick to reality, if consumed media is 1080p and majority of cinema are still 2k DCI, then whats the freaking point of 8k?
      Like I said, unless you do real cinema work, 8k is overkill, I really doubt YOU need 8k unless you are in the film branch, because 8k is not a standard you use for television.
      8k TV is just a bragging right and for manufacturers to keep selling you televisions, they need new and bigger numbers, until 16k is here, 8k would be outdated in your mind. What then?
      The fact that 1080p is still the most watched format on the planet is laughable when you are talking about how 8k is useful, its a niche market for niche people.

    • @50450720
      @50450720 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SMGJohn there must be a hell of a lot of niche creaters out there when Nikons latest 8k camera (z9) has already out sold their own forecasts and now has a 12 month waiting list.

  • @walterwimmer-brown
    @walterwimmer-brown 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked the A cam better because of the better contrast but the B seemed to have a bit more dynamic range in the highlights. I'm looking forward to the reveal!

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! 🤩🙏🏻🎥

  • @kapsookim6390
    @kapsookim6390 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your LUT!!! Please sell us the lut!!

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤩🙏🏻 www.sam-holland.com retro LUT pack 🎥👌🏻

  • @nidoge5032
    @nidoge5032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Wobby gave it away, curious which Lens you used on the R5C? if it had IS or did you have Digital IS turned off

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No IS on the lens on the R5C unfortunately.

    • @nidoge5032
      @nidoge5032 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SamHolland ​ @Sam Holland Did you use digital IS? Tryna figure out if I should avoid using non IS lens completely when handheld

  • @fourtysevenMedia
    @fourtysevenMedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow thought camera B is the R5C. Happy with my S5 :)

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quality camera 🎥

  • @NowyKurs
    @NowyKurs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like even more dynamic range with S5.

  • @anthonyreyesalmonte6318
    @anthonyreyesalmonte6318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cam A my favorite

  • @ricardoduarte6589
    @ricardoduarte6589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All modern cameras today can yield exceptional images, particularly if you take in consideration that most sensors are made by Sony. This is the case in these two cameras, the S5 and the R5C. The real differences of IQ are, then, perceived with the kind of glasses used. I just don't understand why none of the comments here raises the question of which lenses were used on each camera. For instances, adapt a a Zeiss Otus lens to any sub $1K FF sensor camera and it will yield a better result than using these two cameras coupled with regular kit lenses. I am 70 years old and I see much better than my 28yo daughter. I don't wear glasses. She has astigmatism. Furthermore, I see no point comparing the Canon R5C with the Panasonic S5 for video purposes. The R5C belongs to another league in any given attribute. Regarding the IBIS performance, this is the least important element in the mind of a pro level videiographer. Cinema/Video cameras are somewhat opposed to the idea of in-body stabilization. The reasons for this are based around high-end professional workflows where you likely have and want more control over the stabilization and camera movement by using tools such as gimbals and sliders. Finally, although the Canon's AF speed is light years ahead of Pana's, this is, again, a no brainer issue to videographers. Be not mistaken, the S5 is an excellent hybrid camera for video/photo enthusiasts but, c'mon, let's be real here, the R5C is a much more advanced piece of technological engineering, in any parallel comparison.

  • @MikeMena
    @MikeMena 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Camera B had a little something extra that I liked

  • @twofoldfilmhouse2037
    @twofoldfilmhouse2037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    B was my favorite

  • @CO8848_2
    @CO8848_2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOl, I need to pick up my s5 again, such a great piece of equipment for $1500. I feel I am wasting it's talents. And still never plugged in my NINJA V to try out 5.9k pro res raw.

  • @chadstarbucks5719
    @chadstarbucks5719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting video! Thanks Sam

  • @digida9351
    @digida9351 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The more shaking image gave away the Canon, at the beginning. Interesting comparison.

  • @JB_inks
    @JB_inks 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I definitely preferred Canon but I'm definitely going to get a Lumix, even though I own all Canon gear!

  • @colinthomas2525
    @colinthomas2525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    S5 for the win. Buy s5 now and turn it into a b cam when the s1hii comes out. It’s rumoured to have built in nd’s.
    I can’t wait for the markii’s of the s-line

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it has built in ND I’m there!!! 🤩

  • @colorsigma101
    @colorsigma101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    S5 is a good camera but pair it with an Atomos Ninja V, shoot prores raw and it becomes an Amazing camera, on par with many pro cameras regarding image quality.

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally 👌🏻🎥🤩

  • @lyndonlabayan
    @lyndonlabayan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait... EU S5 doesn't have a 4k 10bit 50/60p? NA version does. That's a shame.
    EDIT: I had to rewatch and saw the label caption. I was only listening to the video (not watching) while working, haha.

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha that’s ok. Yeah I forgot to mention it whilst filming 🤩🎥 thanks for watching

  • @JonassaintStudios
    @JonassaintStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The canon R5 C actually has dual base ISO: 800 & 3200. You might want to re-do that low light test

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was more of a dynamic range test than a low light test really. To show how it preserved those highlights in the background and shot at base iso. 🙏🏻

    • @nigerian-nightmare
      @nigerian-nightmare 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      S5 has dual iso also. Low light panasonic beats r5c hands down.

    • @JonassaintStudios
      @JonassaintStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nigerian-nightmare You did that test yourself to prove it?

    • @nigerian-nightmare
      @nigerian-nightmare 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JonassaintStudios I own S1, R5, and R5C. So I have tested them all. The plan was to replace my S1 with R5C, but that won't happen. I like my S1 better. So my R5C is up for sale and pending. Keeping R5 to go with my S1.

    • @JonassaintStudios
      @JonassaintStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nigerian-nightmare Sounds like your own personal opinion to me, so whatever floats your boat! 🤷🏾‍♂

  • @sardanapalos
    @sardanapalos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    its obvious camera A is the canon, only for the lack of stab in some shots...as for the screen part of the S5, you can jump to the S1 with 500 pounds more and have a better screen, better viewfinder full size hdmi (only thing i hate on the S5)

    • @sardanapalos
      @sardanapalos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jerimiah Cook hmmm really? i was almost sure they updated to internal raw at some point....sorry then i will change my comment so nobody buys it for that

  • @adobektm4240
    @adobektm4240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favourite is lumix s5

  • @chiokehart-kelly3481
    @chiokehart-kelly3481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice comparison. 2:55 something about the backlit clouds looks artifical to my eye. It could just be this macbook monitor though. The DR, stabilization and price still makes the S5 a serious camera.

  • @diegoviecili8888
    @diegoviecili8888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Camera B has some cyanish color cast to it so the cam A did looked better, despite both are great cams 📸☀️🥂

  • @Max_Sky2024
    @Max_Sky2024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unfortunately, no matter how good the Lumix S5 is, we must admit that its colors (yellow-greenish) are far from reality, no matter how cinematic they are... Canon is great! Thank you for your hard work!

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out my latest colour grading video from today and you can see how natural the colours of the S5 look 🤩🎥 thanks for watching

    • @LakeHowellDigitalVideo
      @LakeHowellDigitalVideo ปีที่แล้ว

      Just sounds like bias to me. With VLog and white balance, you can set the colors any way you like on a S5.

  • @kamhunt500
    @kamhunt500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OK dang! I was certain Camera B was the Canon because the image was better but NOPE! The S5 for the win!

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤩🎥🙏🏻

  • @50450720
    @50450720 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, although the point of the R5c is that it shoots 8k internally.
    Editing 8k on a 4k timeline gives cropping options not offered by the s5.
    Also I'm interested in why you chose the S5 over the S1? The S1 has better viewfinder, better weather sealing, better ibis and a full size hdmi, and is cheaper!!!

  • @DavidPalmer_blinder
    @DavidPalmer_blinder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love my S5, and this is coming from Canon.i just love the image i get from the S5, and its support for anamorphic lenses is just perfect (i primarily shoot with my Sirui 50mm FF, and am patiently waiting for the 75mm FF i just ordered). I think just the ease of use of the S5, and not just easy to get an image, but to get a good image just makes this camera more fun to play with, and as I am a total hobbyist, it has to be all about the fun!

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So true. Always about the fun! 💪🏻🎥 ah I would love to try the Sirui one day. Thanks for watching

  • @vadodaraavtar92
    @vadodaraavtar92 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Right now using G7 planning to upgrade which one would be best G9 or S5. I am doing 360 photography only. please let me know thanks

  • @astroguyco
    @astroguyco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact that you compare these cameras shows how good LUMIX is

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Precisely 🤩👌🏻🎥

  • @noahseta
    @noahseta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cam A was my preferred picture quality.

  • @everythingANTHONY
    @everythingANTHONY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hard to tell I but camera A have better highlights control.

  • @sambowks
    @sambowks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Panasonic looks like it has a bit of an HDR effect. Did you try pulling the highlights down on the Canon and seeing if the details is there.

  • @DanielCurious
    @DanielCurious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lumix S5, no question.

  • @ThePistonPit
    @ThePistonPit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    U said you won’t say which was your favourite but as soon as you said that, the word “canon” appeared on the top right corner of the screen haha

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😛 canon colours, S5 image

    • @ThePistonPit
      @ThePistonPit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SamHolland I believe you haha

  • @jamesb5182
    @jamesb5182 ปีที่แล้ว

    One area you missed was the auto focus - was it better on the canon?

  • @ScreenFiends
    @ScreenFiends 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video. For me the Canon just pips in in terms of image quality but it's far from a £4k improvement. For fellow small busines owners, I'd recommend not jumping on the hype train of new and trending. There are plenty of great quality cams in the £1-£2k Mark. Even less if you shop around. The cam is one tool of many that you will need if you're looking to start a business. Invest smartly.

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. Yes, exactly!! Good insight! 🙏🏻🎥🤩

  • @coreymullins
    @coreymullins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought the skin tones and colors of Camera A were better, with a little more dynamic range. I also think it is the S5. Currently waiting on my S5 to be delivered (with your channel as a big help in that decision) so let's see if I'm right....
    EDIT: NOPE! You did a good job grading both to look the same. Still looking forward to my S5 anyways!

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice one Corey. Good on ya for not cheating and being honest even though you’ve gone for the S5 🙏🏻 it does show you how good the S5 image and colours are to be able to get so close. With a few more tweaks you could probably get exactly the same to be fair. Thanks for watching. I hope you enjoy your S5 🤩🙏🏻🎥

  • @bulentozdemir
    @bulentozdemir 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Sam, I'm getting "Media Offline" in DaVinci Resolve 18.6 for Mac Ventura OS. There's audio but no video. Filmed on a Lumix S5 in 10bit 422 MOV @ 25p. Any advice on how to fix this? Thanks - B

  • @coyaxRN
    @coyaxRN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lumix S5 anyday! S5 colours seems to just be more pleasing! *personal preference! good review

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you 🤩🎥

  • @captureyourmoments3714
    @captureyourmoments3714 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Sam, i have three canon eos r and two r6 for wedding video and photo. also a canon gx10 as a safety net. im looking at the lumix s5 ii as i have heard it blows canon out of the water? i still love the image from the eos r ands have rf lenses. will i get much more from the lumix or is the s1h better. steve

  • @MaartenSchrader
    @MaartenSchrader 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What settings do you use for vlog like shoots with the r5c? All manual?

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Maarten. Yeh all manual mode. I have a video coming next week on how to setup the R5C if that will help 🙏🏻🎥🤩 thanks for watching

  • @Aktywny
    @Aktywny ปีที่แล้ว +1

    S5 Amazing! ❤

  • @thabo5799
    @thabo5799 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To think the S5 cost me £1k is a legit steal. I used the rest of the budget to get a ninja v and I feel unstoppable 😂

  • @DanielM1224
    @DanielM1224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the S5

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too! 🤩🎥🙏🏻

  • @avarmadillo
    @avarmadillo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Canon hates hybrid cameras, and they make using them for video as inconvenient and awkward as possible. Panasonic, in contrast, makes a very user friendly camera.
    thanks for the review.

    • @SamHolland
      @SamHolland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks William. 🎥