The Rise and Fall of Duke Nukem
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When first-person shooters were introduced in the early 90s, most of the studios making them were content with keeping their protagonists silent. They believed that doing so would allow players to step into their shoes with far greater ease, and that the worlds their shooters explored already had plenty to say in their place. Any additional dialogue would be novel - yet wholly unnecessary.
But before these assumptions could become fact, a PC game from Texas-based developer 3D Realms entered the market, and proved that dialogue - if done well - had its place within the genre. This game was Duke Nukem 3D, a bawdy shooter that followed its titular protagonist on a quest to liberate Earth from an alien menace, and riveted a generation of players with its real-life settings, high level of interactivity, and one-liner spouting protagonist voiced by Jon St. John. While the Duke proved a figure of controversy due to some of his more salacious tendencies, most found that his added character greatly elevated the rest of the experience around him. And before long, gamers on almost every other platform under the sun were nodding in agreement alongside their own copies of it.
In the wake of such widespread success, 3D Realms had every intention of building Duke Nukem out into a sprawling franchise, and producing sequel after sequel that would outdo its gun-toting opus. Before long, however, those in control of the series found themselves corrupted by their own success, and these plans began to veer off course. While there would be no shortage of Duke Nukem spin-offs that would pop up in the years following 3D’s release, a proper follow-up to the shooter would remain locked in development hell within 3D Realms’s offices for years after its announcement. What was once an immensely promising series became one of the video game industry’s longest-running jokes - and when 3D Realms finally managed to get its prodigal entry out the door, most who played it found that the joke was on them.
This is the rise and fall of Duke Nukem.
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So basically, because Ol' Georgie was obsessed with making his precious Duke the best game ever, he ended up sinking his own pet project because he just couldn't accept the fact that technology marches on and it would have become dated regardless.
Greasy Randy bo Bandy was just a mercy kill.
Beware of project scope-creep.
i expect star citizen to go the same route. if that ever releases during our lifetime.
@@RDBcheckout SC will absolutely go the same route. The feature creep on that has been insane, blowing stupid amounts of money on silly crap that then gets scrapped and so on and so on. It'll almost assuredly never release.
@@nicwilson89 Star Citizen: development time even longer than it takes to fly to another solar system without FTL!
Seeing 2001 Duke nukem forever footage makes my hearth bleed
greatest tragedy in a video game history
It's pretty sad. This kind of development hubris and constant feature/engine-creep has been the death of more than one game. The exact same thing happened to Daikatana. I think fully 3D FPS development in the late 90's was a really rocky place to be, particularly around 1997. Duke Nukem 3D was in the right place at the right time, but DNF landed fully on the other side.
Really does look great, probably would've been as big as 3D and we'd have more of the mainline Dukes vs spin offs
Randy has that build locked away.
Your hearth?
If Randy looses another pendrive in Medival Times, just with this build instead of porn this time, we may still see it. :D
This game was huge in the 90's. Shrinking an enemy, then squishing them with your boot. Freezing them, then kicking them to pieces. Tossing a pipe bomb under their feet and watching the gibs fly across the screen. This kind of stuff was amazing to me and my fellow teenage buddies.
I think if they had released the game in the early 2000s, I think they may have had another hit on their hands. But, over a decade later? No one was interested anymore. They missed their window by a long shot.
Quake and Half Life happend i guess. Even if they would released DNF around 2000 it would be a harder FPS Competion than in 96.
@@datamanmachine Cant forget quake, but it was half life. That game redefined an entire gaming landscape
Shadow Warrior (Classic) and Duke Nukem 3D were are still great today.
@@waah5901 While half life happened, I don't think it would have put duke under a grave, many titles like SoF, Red Faction, RTCW, and Deus Ex emerged. So I don't think duke nukem would pale mostly if you watch what's on the trailer, like High interactivity, vehicle sections and some amount of destructions.
A perfect encapsulation of the expression, “Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.”
A perfect encapsulation for me would be, "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."
forr me its "die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain"
for me it's "the crime was time wasted, the sentence is death"
uhh cus the studio was shuttered? and even pandy bitchford screwed the pooch....
"They were determined to ensure players got their hands on the best possible product they can muster" A lot has changed in that industry over the years.
The fired devs tried to finish the game from home. Hats off to those guys. They are the real heroes.
Cyberpunk anyone?!
they were determined to ensure developers got their hands on the most amount of money loot boxes can muster
Not really. RDR2 case in point. A LOT of games back then were garbage money grabbing too. It hasn't really changed. For every great game back then there are a shit TONNE of money grabbing shite. Just like today. I hate this everything was better in the past BULLSHIT. It's so pervasive. Everyone thinks the past was so much better and now the world is going to shit. BULLSHIT.
@@rooneyestfu. They didn't put out broken shite for players to beta test (battlefield 2042, cyberpunk 2077) or design their games around squishing every penny they can with paywalled weapons (crossfire x), loot boxes and seasons in shooters, dlc characters in fighting games, they didn't put the focus on monetizing all the time you invest in their games (have you read that there's talks of putting ads in videogames? and what about NFTs?)
Everything was better back then, there were much more new IPs, now everything is a lame/atrocious remake/remaster, there was creativity and push for doing something new, exploring and taking advantage of the potential that videogames as a medium has.
Also RDR 1 & 2 are SHITE anyways.
The biggest tragedy is that Randy is the owner of the IP now.
Oh so greasy.
"These alien bastards are gonna pay for shooting down my ride."
"shooting UP my ride"
@@007kingifrit Your UP your DOWN, whats the difference?
You left out the legal disputes between Gearbox and 3D Realms over who owned the Duke IP. 3D Realms' Bombshell game started out as a Duke game until Gearbox threatened to sue. Then we got Ion Fury which is the closest thing to a real Duke 3D successor that we'll probably ever get.
Ion Fury is also based on a heavily modified Build engine.
Nothing in that game feels like Duke, though . . . No dirty jokes, strippers or disgusting slimy aliens.
Ironic considering that both companies later got bought out by the Embracer Group (formerly known as THQ Nordic AB).
@@GeneralTantzu Focus on dirty jokes, strippers and other stupid gimmicks is the reason why DNF sucks ass.
While greatly edited and highly professional, GVMERS materials seem to almost never mention anything that could put a big publisher in a bad spot from a PR staandpoint.
The Rise and Fall of Delta Force would be cool to see.
Yes, and the Swat series!
Omfg yes! Miss delta force man. 😔
Yes, that would be cool.
Chuck Norris never fell.
Would be awesome to see the rise and fall of Delta Force and or Novalogic.
The world hasn't outgrown politically incorrect heroes; but it has outgrown ''fling your own turds at the wall'' levels of humour. Duke Nukem can work in this day and age but you gotta be smart with it. What this needs is the same guys who reinvented Doom to take a look at it.
I’m gonna have to disagree with you. Cancel culture would be on the return of this game harder than Six Days in Fallujah.
Agreed, we need more punk games to flip a well deserved bird to the modern progressive puritanism.
I do agree with the turd part . . . Though I always thought there was something almost too juveline about Forever's humor. I'd go back to how 3D delivered it's jokes.
This reminded me how Duke would poke fun at other games. In Forever, he goes "Power armor is for pussies" as if making fun of Halo directly (the armor is also a DIRECT copy of master Chiefs armor) . . . While in Duke 3D, he would make a off hand cheeky remark about "not bein afraid of no quake" when there was a earthquake.
I don't know how to explain it, maybe Forever seemed too full of itself by insulting directly a game that was much better than it was, while 3D was more "bro poking fun at his other bro" type of humor. Just a little poke and knowing smirk.
@@GeneralTantzu yeah duke 3d had more cheeky jokes while dnf wasnt even trying to be cheeky instead they pretty much just insulted different games with lines like "Power armour is for pussies" and "i hate valve puzzles"
@@solidsnake8008 They wheren't even trying to be subtle, just platant insults. It was just mean spirited and not fun at all.
Randy Pitchford being partially responsible for Duke Nukem 3D seems very appropriate.
He just made a couple of levels in Plutonium Pak
Of all the 'Rise and fall' videos here, this one is the saddest, most heartbreaking one. It's so downing to see so much potential wasted in the worst way possible
Duke's superpower was satire. It was the Hot Shots to id's Rambo
I'd elaborate more, but the bastards have tied my shoelaces together
I think the doc over-states the controversy of Duke 3D's more salacious content in the 90s. At the time, the level of violence in the Doom games was still a sticking point for those looking to make video games a scapegoat for real-world violence; comparatively, things like the strippers were just features that made the game more edgy and adult to most of the actual audience, and thus, more desirable. Today, of course, DNF comes off as the worst of all worlds: Off-color enough to offend, not ribald enough to be exciting compared to what's available on the Internet, too in-your-face to be ignored, and not in a good enough game to "surf the wave" on style.
I think it's more "offensive and controversial" now than then, that's why the doc puts so much emphasis on it. In 90's people seemed ok with chauvinist nature of the content, but worried it may be "pornographic" or "illicit". Now it seems we went the other way around.
If the industry is "too grown up" for The Duke, then it needs to be euthanized and let the new generation in.
@@marekjurko4548 Nothing has really changed at all. Video games where target for causing real life ills ever since 80s. Only difference now, is the fact gaming media itself is attacking gamer culture, not just outsiders.
@@TrueKaras Nah, some stuff is simply outdated.
@@TrueKaras nothing is stopping small developers from making good edgy games and selling online. A lot of studios want the $$$ offered by Steam and store chains.
One of my favorite types of forum bans back in the day was a Duke Nukem Forever ban which essentially meant you're permabanned. Jokes on the mods though when the game finally came out and they had to unban those people.
Did they actually unban anyone?
Babe, bullets, bombs. Damn I love this job.
And now Duke is forever trapped in the hands of that used car salesman Randy Bitchford.
RIP Duke, it was fun while it lasted.
I remember playing Duke Nukem on my dad's friend's PC back in eastern Europe. It absolutely blew my mind as my only previous experience with videogames was with the Terminator 2 console (Chinse NES clone) at home. Crazy that no one will ever experience something like this again. Really do live in a special time.
There's been a bunch of games made on the Build Engine that have come out recently. Maybe check out Ion Fury; not as much crude humor but the gameplay is similar to old Duke Nukem 3D.
@@andreivaldez2929 Thanks, I'll give it a look. Build engine hits that nostalgia spot for me.
My man that is a fact 🎯😁
First time I saw Duke 3D, I was blown away when a guy who owned the game, shot a clock and it broke. That was amazing to me lol. Oh and PS: I didn't know Duke Forever had new dlc .. Apparently not a lot of people did judging by the whopping 40 people who reviewed it on Steam.
No way is that new?? I just finally finished all the DLC
I played it. It was alright. But it's still DNF so you can only polish a turd so much
@@nomercy8989 But hey, nothing beats actually PLAYING with a turd in game!
The Rise and Fall of Killzone would be an awesome one. Duke Nukem 3D is a treasured memory I have playing at my friend's father's PC when I was 10. Great times.
This man’s voice is a gift to humanity. Literally takes me back to g4 2000s era of video game show commentary!
I still got the orginial Box from 1996 in my shelve! I was soooooo hyped back then!!!
I have to say I live in Germany and the game was banned after release. So I had to be really fast to get the game before it was taken out of the sales... I was lucky to get one copy =)
Germany is run by immature ppl. I have to say!!!
Im german and i agree. But its change last couple of Years. It isnt that strict anymore.
Me too
It was not banned. You just could not publicly present it in a store. As an adult you were still allowed to buy it (although of course most stores would no longer have it as selling a game they could not put on the shelves would sell poorly).
@@whuzzzup more exactly: it was on index till 2007...that means, you are right, it's not banned at all but as a kid, I couldn't buy it anywhere...even in stores they don't care about German "FSK" - so for me it was like banned back then!
The second version of Duke Nukem Forever - will forever be a game from dreams, the hair of my neck still stands up when I see the old trailer for it.
Just the thought of what could have been.
CAN WE PLEASE GET THE RISE AND FALL OF TUROK!?!?!?!?!!?!?
We need another Cerebral Bore!
Please!!
Who?
@@TheStrongestofToday. I, am Turok!!!
Yes please.
I love this narrator. It's like watching a "How It's Made" episode on Duke Nukem.
Randy Pitchford didn't come into Duke3D's development until they made the Plutonium Pak expansion, and he only created a few levels, so it's not like he was one of the original creators.
Kids cant understand what a Mindblower this game was!! I mean,even flippin the lights on and off was something i never could do before in a Game!
rdr 2 looks better
im sure the automobile was a cool invention too
TOILET FLUSHING!!!!!
🤯🤯🤯
@Lucas Coval yes i forgot totaly about that. :))
@White Dom guess you are a bit to young to have experienced this masterpiece in '96! My bad.
Duke needs the doom reboot treatment, but atleast we will always have Duke 3D. Hope they make Duke Nukem Zero Hour available for new consoles.
They just need to make it like Ion Fury.
@@WllKiedSnake Yeah, maybe just direct sequel to Duke 3D with Ion Fury's engine. That would be so good . . .
Land of the Babes was my first Duke game, I remember my dad sitting next to me every time I played and we were both laughing at it. Not a great game, but great memories while playing it.
I still love Duke3D. and it's still depressing to think what could have been...
you know what else could have been great in the 90s?. a movie with Arnold Schwazeneguer. He was still young enough, he was still awesome and making cool movies, it was a perfect match!.
The Rock is the only guy who could do it today, even if it's an aged Duke. He is charismatic enough. Remember the rumors about the Johnny Bravo movie? Things could have been great.
I deeply wish they would bring Duke back on the build engine using the same method as Ion Fury did. Just a high quality send off to The Duke.
Well, sadly Duke was killed as soon as they sold it to Gearbox, so 3D Realms does not have their rights to him anymore.
@@MaxSpec I agree, I've kept up with info on ownership a little bit over the years as Duke was one of my early games with level design and editing, making him closer to my heart than most.
@Mega Canon Our culture seems to have drifted into some kind of neo puritanism masking itself under woke jargon. I think most of us are just waiting for it to run its course rather than engage these moral busy bodies and gatekeepers head on.
@Mega Canon I just wrote a comment on how I believe that the Duke should be left to fade away because any attempt to make him culturally relevant would ruin him. But honestly, the thought of Duke coming to the real world and going HAM on the safe spacers would make for a great game. It just wouldn't sell well and nobody would have the balls to make a proper Duke game. It would be glorious though. Imagine Duke going to a Halo convention, beating up a master chief cosplayer and leaving with his GF. As much as I would fear seeing a new Duke game, Duke is the only one who could save us.
@@Davivd2 itd be amazing to see duke go out pissing off all the pure snowflakes he can rather than duke go out with a shit game with a shit owner
Damn bro. Pitchford went from giving back to the people that got him everything to not paying his employees. Classic.
Please, don't attempt to rewrite history. No one in 1996 had any issue with the crassness of Duke 3D. In fact, it was one of it's (if not main) strongest selling points.
Uh, history wasn't being rewritten. It was a big issue back in its day, at least for marketing in other countries (Australia, for example) and distribution (Wal-Mart in the U.S.A. elected to sell a censored version).
@@vidmasterK1 retailers and literal censorship boards are a lot different than actual consumers. Australia's censorship policies are legendary so I wouldn't try to use them as a counter argument.
@@dimensionxdigital6752 Yeah this was a "mask off" moment for GVMERS, can't expect them not to pull history revisionism again if the game they are talking about doesn't cater to their neo-puritan values
@@MaverickHunter17 What are their "neo-puritan" values?
@@gamerinatrance3618 In this specific case, the depiction of sexy women viewed as a negative and offensive thing.
Duke needs a comeback.
buta decent one not like Duke Nukem Forever under grease flowing 2K
Give it the Doom 2016 treatment 🙂
Too bad for Randy Bitchford's existence!
@@GetsugaTensho85 yeah too bad randy pitchfraud existance
They would never let a Duke game get released today.
Don’t forget Duke Nukem 3D actually has 3D maps, unlike Doom
I am severely disappointed you did not include more of Duke's dialogue and one liners in this video.
Probably trying to avoid copyright strikes and then having the video taken down.
Despite the general consensus, I enjoyed it, and glad we got it rather than nothing at all. There were a lot of cool things in the game, but obviously was under-developed in the end despite being worked on for so many years. I'd love to see a new Duke game that isn't watered down. I have the Forever Collector's Edition Duke bust signed by Jon St. John himself.
Yeah. It was pretty much Frankenstein of game sewed of different parts.
it's cool bro, not your fault you were born with bad taste
I'd like to see the Duke return....
maybe go to the alien homeworld and nuke em?? lolz
@@judgedrekk2981 I like the way you think.
I don't think anyone who ever actually played Duke Nukem was put-off by the half-naked girls. In fact as a young boy I quite enjoyed them.
Because back then most of the gamers were male teenagers. If you released that game today, I don't think many male teenagers would be off-put by it, but male teenagers are just a portion of the audience now. There are still many games being released with off-color content like that, but not mainstream because the sensibilities of most of the audience are different now.
@@Linkale_ Majority of gamers are still male teenagers.
@@happilyham6769 That would most certainly be the case for free to play multiplayer games, but would you say is also the case for full-price single player games?
@@Linkale_ I think that there are a lot more female gamers and older gamers than there used to be, but I would say that the majority are still teenage males across the board. I would also wager that the number of female TH-cam gamers and Twitch gamers does not reflect the ratio of female to male gamers in the real world.
@@happilyham6769 Based on what?
Duuuude that intro fadein was a big wall of feels man. The tinny sound of the stereo playing in the same room as the tiny CRT... well done guys
Duke Nukem 3D was so darn good when it came out. Took the gaming industry by storm. With multiple changes in game engines, and being development hell for so long, I that knew from the start that Duke Nukem Forever would most likely flop. However, I still bought the game on day one release knowing that it already looked dated and unpolished. I wanted to fulfill that nostalgia and hear more of the Duke's one liner banter. Despite the harsh but fairly justified criticism, I still had a kickass time, baby. 🤘
Hope the next installment, if any, will be handled professionally with vision, polish, and care.
I love his disgust when he said "feces"
I really wish people stopped refering to Duke as "parody" (I'm also quilty of that . . . So sorry) because Duke Nukem is Pastiche of 80s American action movie culture.
While it is made with tongue-in-cheek, it also revels in the fun and action of the genre. Duke is a fun celebration of that culture, not a takedown attempt.
Parodies aren’t necessarily criticisms, they’re “humorously exaggerated imitations”. Think about what Spaceballs is to Star Wars, poking fun at the genre whilst throwing it’s own spin on it. That’s what Duke Nukem is to every action hero from Terminator to Chuck Norris. It even pokes at the dark age of comic books a bit, with the gun touting action hero and frequently sexual content.
Some of your videos havent been so in depth or have treaded paths already taken. But this one is exactly why i subscribe- fantastic work guys. This is straight up investigative journalism
If BJ and The Doom Guy can make a come-back, there's always room for the King, baby. 🤴
Hmm didn't hear Ken Silverman's name in this video? Without his build engine 3D wouldn't even been a thing. If I'm not mistaken he was even directly employed by 3D realms for the purpose of Duke 3D.
Ok Ken
make your burner a little more obvious please mr.silverman
Yes! I love this series and Duke was awesome back in the day
Gotta love how Scott Miller blames everyone but himself.
I remember when Duke came out only the parental censorship people complained about it but most of the edgy stuff was so far into the game it took awhile before they found it so we had already been playing for awhile so my mom didn't take it away back then
Never have I ever clicked on a video so fast
Saaaaame
dukenukem on of the best games of the 90ties that stil holds op god i love this game
I love this content! So close to a tv show I'm eager to watch! Keep up the wonderful work! ;)
Top notch as always - thanks for your content, it's a joy to watch!
Say what you say, but Land of the babes was awesome! Kickass intro with song also !!!
And a ending every teenager dreams of 😁
To make Duke work in today's landscape the entire development team needs to watch Robocop and use that as their muse in regard to how to juggle violence, vulgarity, excess and humor, while avoiding coming across as mean spirited. Robocop works as a straight action movie and as a dark satirical comedy. This balance is essential to Duke in my mind. If Duke were a movie it would be a collaboration between Paul Verhoeven and John Carpenter.
Your insights and reviews are always the best, thanks so much for this upload it was awesome viewing.
Awesome video as always, thanks!!
Not sure if it counts, but the rise and fall of Splinter Cell would be mint.
The Duke franchise should be given to MachineGames or Nightdive Studios. They're probably the only devs that I could trust could make a good Duke game nowadays, I think Randy hates Duke, honestly. I also think that there's no way Gearbox could really do the franchise justice, retain it's proper character, and release something the fans would actually enjoy
Machine games? Didn’t they make Wolfenstein Young Blood?
You wish Gearbox would've done something like that. There was a Megaton Edition of Duke Nukem back then, but it was sadly taken off-sale when the licensing was gone. It was a really solid remaster for the game.
For Randy, Borderlands will always sell more than Duke Nukem with far less controversy, which is why there will not be a new game from the latter.
@@MaxSpec Yea, I mentioned that in another comment :)
Oh god not MachineGames, they went woke with Wolfenstein with the second game and Young Blood.
love your videos man. keep up the good work
Always well done video essays. 💪🏾💯🔥
It's a shame that Duke's special guest appearance in the top-down battle racing game "Death Rally" didn't merit even the slightest mention.
I don't remember anyone complaining about the naked women in Duke Nukem.
Because it was easier to stay in your anecdotal bubble then, compared to now.
People seem to easily forget that.
It was mostly seen from right wing politicians and feminist activists in the 90. Although to me it's clearly making fun of chauvinistic tropes of famous action heroes.
@@theunbearablejuan
Good ol' days.
@@mechanomics2649 People (like you and GVMERS) seem to easily forget that such kind of content wasn't badly recieved by the gamers backs, only by puritan soccer moms and conservative politicians with a chip on their shoulder which have now morphed into the neo-puritan crowd that screeches on social media about the exact same type of content
More great work thank you. Nice doc mate.
Absolutely loved the video guys ❤️❤️
Hopefully one day we get an awesome new game.
Would have loved to have played one of the early builds of DNF - remember being so hyped when new screenshots appeared in gaming magazines at the time. SiN was pretty close to a spiritual successor, had a lot of similar elements (somewhat realistic settings, interactivity, talking protagonist) but just never really found mainstream success.
I had been asking for this one since the channel started
Legendary franchise. Thanks for the video!
This episode felt like it was written by Kotaku or Polygon writer, with all the moral grand standing.
This.
Is this cause they dared pointed out that some people criticised some of the humour in the game?
@@gamerinatrance3618 You mean claimed it to cause real world harm like always, with absolutely no evidence to back that up.
For some reason i thought you guys already covered history of Duke Nukem.
Love these kind of videos! Even the person talking is perfect for them haha
GVMERS, your voice is like warm butter to my ears, and your videos are amazing👌
still the best channel of this kind on youtube. no Ego. No Vanity. No annoying obnoxious narration or narcissistic attention. Just great information, research, and writing. Thanks for all your hard work, happy to support the channel!
Except... you know, trying to pull some history revisionism regarding the game's reception
I still have hope for a new Duke game or at least some decent remasters/remakes of some of the older games. Especially now that 3D Realms & Gearbox are both now owned by Embracer Group AB.
Great video!!
Loved the video. Only flaw I see is that I would have loved to see a more in depth analysis of why Duke 3D was that influential back in its time.
Such a huge part of my childhood. I heard this story before on another YT video, it depresses me so much.
Especially because I love late 90's - early 00's fps games, like Half Life, Red Faction, Deus Ex & to see that Duke could have had one of them games really annoys me.
I remember playing DNF was one of the most depressing moments in all my time as a gamer. That load screen music plays on a loop in my nightmares 😂
Something about that game just felt so dated & cold. Like when you play an old game you know ur playing an old game but with DNF you felt like you were playing this relic & not in a good way..
Such a shame that Forever was a disaster. I wanted what I saw in the 2001 trailer. I was so hyped when Forever came out after playing 3D so many times. I felt betrayed when 4 had limited weapons and regen health. And yeah, wasn't funny either. Only played it once, and never again.
Fantastic doco, you guys and noclip are on the mountain top of great gaming docos.
Waiting For You Man ❤️❤️❤️
Duke Nukem deserves a comeback. He didn't deserve this tragedy.
Duke Nukem: Forever in Development.
10:05 Duke patronizing strippers doesn't make him chauvinistic or misogynistic.
That said, it's not lost on me that the only women we ever see in these games are either strippers or victims. I could understand people finding that distasteful.
I agree on the surface of the content, but with the context it kinda was relevant to the story though, the whole deal with the aliens in DN3D is that they wanted Earth's women, not resources, not a world of slaves, not total elimination, but for reproduction purposes, kill off the male species, and use the female one.
It's physically shown in both the Plutonium Pak expansion, and in DNF.
So in a sense, it's the aliens that are the real misogynists, it it even applies to an alien species. -__-
Point being that Duke was fighting to save women and save humanity along with the Earth, doesn't help that the women caught by them were already traumatized and abused into begging for death. In the console and some spin-off versions you could literally save the babes at a push of a button, don't know why the original game never had that feature.
And the only time I can remember, where Duke had to purposely kill off women was in the Christmas Expansion: Nuclear Winter. Killing militarized female elves working for a brain washed Santa Claus - Yeah Nuclear Winter was pretty much held as the worst expansion for the series.
Just make Duke a follower of the peace truck religion and the ladies will buy it.
Diversify the sales.
@@Mecks089 Good points. I seem to remember Duke mumbling out "damn" if you killed a woman. Sadly nuance is lost on the pearl-clutching brigade, regardless of their stripe.
"it's the aliens that are the real misogynists"
There's an idea I can get behind. Assuming certain segments of the gaming population aren't offended by the game treating misogynists as the enemy :)
Duke is a Hedonist if anything.
Why would you put stripper men in game for boys?
@@DrownedInExile I NEVER understood the misogynist critizism of Duke. He springs to action to save strippers from alien rapists . . . And sex workers aren't the most respected profession (no matter what time period we are in, lets be fair here)
If anything, Duke respects even the women who get to baddest of spots. The guy is just ready to save everyone no matter what.
This is such good content, lads
Fuckin love when this channel puts out videos
Am I the only one who never heard shareware being called the apogee model?
I never heard of it either, honestly. I did play a ton of shareware Apogee games though.
The last Shadow Warrior game I had a thought of why don't they have Duke Nukem show up in one of the sequels in a mission or two that could be kinda cool. But I am guessing since another company owns the rights to him it probably wont happen. Though they both seem like characters that would get along well in a video game.
Love these videos, It would be awesome if you did a Rise and Fall of the Tenchu series.
Thanks for the vid
The Duke needs a proper game, his one liners can still be funny with some good writing, gameplay can be great if given to the right team, he needs either a full on resurrection or at the very least, a suitable send off for the big guy
28:14 It came packaged with a worse experience than Megaton Edition and also came packaged with the fact that they removed Megaton Edition from absolutely everywhere so you were forced to buy the inferior World Tour version...but that's what I've come to expect from Gearbox and Randy, oh Randy...the man is a disgrace, as reflected in the whole child pornography thing amongst others
World tour is missing DLCs as well
Removing Megaton Edition is a crime against boomer shooter fans, that was the best Duke release ever . . .
Document was a bit lacking but always glad to see anything Duke related content these days. Its been a while.... Can you imagine that Forever came out ten years ago?! And the master of all game trailers came out 20 years ago?! Man... time flies
Great video
personally i think for duke to exist in the current world. you should shamelessly embrace his character. Not make it crude, but make it like it was in 3-d. Because that's what made him great and still makes him great. And who cares it to riles up some people, they aren't viable customers. So their opinions are literally worthless. because the fanbase you'll get regardless and the attention will muster curiosity. And the memes will farther generate attention and probably sales.
So do the same thing that they'd done before. Why even make this comment? To cry about current day politics?
@@mechanomics2649 If the formula is right, why change it?
Absolutely! Embrace the soul of the series, there is no point trying to chase after people who do not like what is already there and made Duke loved to begin with.
I mean you probably won't get much more than an indie game. Worth considering that DNF sold only about 375000 copies in its launch month across all three platforms, which is completely unviable by any modern AAA standards. I mean Agents of Mayhem sold a similar amount over 6 months and that nearly bankrupted Volition. The audience, just like the audience for experimental arcade racers, simply isn't there to warrant a AAA project.
Here before @LGR
Yes, finally u made a video about the hero of my childhood, now not even a shadow of his own anymore....Thanks for this documentary!
Finally talking about the Duke!
It's funny how DNF ripping off other games made it's way to the final product too. I love mocking DNF for that, it just rips off CoD, Halo and Half Life 1 and 2 so shamelessly that it's comical.
*"No king rules forever"*
This is sad, I miss Duke. *"Hail to the king, baby"* :(
I love Duke Nukem so much. Literally grew up with these games (Duke 3D was the first game I had my own copies of on both PC and N64 in '96!)
Yet another good job.