Ok, i covered this in previous videos - this "25 yds express method" is to get you quickly on target from 25 to 300yds, but this is not tect book method to zero AK...AK irons are in meters not yards and the best way to zero AK is to do it from 100 meters (again, covered in previous videos). Problem is, ranges in USA often don't offer 100m range...
Also, the farthest back stop is what is referred to as 'battle sight'; the default setting which will.allow hits on a man-size target out to 300 meters with a properly zeroed rifle.It also happens to correspond to the 300m setting further up the sight ladder.
At 61 years old, my iron sight shooting days are over. Even with optics, the rear sight is not clear. I was retired from the military when I realized our drill sergeants were teaching us bad techniques. They had us place our noses on the charging handle to get our eyes closer to the rear sight. That might work for someone who is near sighted, but I am farsighted, so the M16 front sight post was swimming around in a way too large circle. In 1981, I had difficulty shooting well at the age of 19. As the years rolled on, it became harder and harder to score well. I probably improved many shooting fundamentals, but didn’t understand that I was too close to the rear sight for effective shots. Add to that then learning that I am right handed, but left eye dominant, and it becomes obvious that I was doing the visual parts wrong. As an Army maintenance soldier, we didn’t shoot very often and the range personnel were interested in processing everyone through and off the range. If you are not combat arms the Army doesn’t spend the time and money to develop all of their troops to excellence. I can remember qualifying with a styrofoam coffee cup full of bullets on about a quarter of the trips we made to the rifle range. Most range sessions were conducted with one or two hundred soldiers and only a quarter to one third of a day. You must shoot a lot, and often to gain proper proficiency with your weapons. What a waste of time! The USMC is just the opposite, and demands the best from every Marine. Penny wise, dollar foolish. Your tax dollars at work. 😮
The rumor mill has been ugly to the AK series of rifles. A decent AK with good ammo is a deadly weapon in the hands of a skilled shooter. I have owned several in my younger years and never had one that was less accurate than me. 😂 MAGA 🎉
Yep..I use the 25 yard zero. I tighten it up to the point where all my shots are touching. When I confirm at 100 yards it is 6 inches high. Let's me know that 1. If I aim at the belt buckle at 100 yrds POI will be center mass. 2. At 200 yards POA= POI.
@@jaredlostetter265 PSA is waiting on the nickel boron bolts and bolt carriers. May also we waiting on barrels from FN. Not sure if they have received the shipment or not.
I like the acronym FORS, for adjusting sights. Front - opposite, Rear - same. For example, If you want to move impact to left, move front sight right (opposite). If you want to move impact up, move rear sight up (same). This acronym has always helped me and works well when teaching new or young shooters.
@Mike Bastiat, the acronym is just a way to remember how to achieve your goal. If you only have one sight that can be adjusted, then you have to adjust that one obviously - but the rule still applies. A rear sight moves the direction you want the impact to move, while the front sight moves opposite of what you want the impact to move. FYI, some AKs do in fact have a windage adjustment on the rear sight. RPK style AKs commonly have a windage adjustment on the rear sight. Many people will even swap out a rear sight for a RPK rear sight to get an easier windage adjustment. AKs also have elevation adjustments on the front and rear.
insane skill to do this on iron sights. very few people on youtube seems to hit anything above 200yd without a scope, even less on an AK. Man, I wish I could shoot like this someday
In 1967 when I went through USMC Basic we zeroed our M14 on the 1,000-inch range which is just a bit more than 25 yards. Since then I've zeroed all my rifles at 25 yards and have had very good success getting them zeroed with less than 10 rounds.
Love seeing a fellow American enjoying his 2nd amendment rights! And holy hell, dude pulling head shots at 300 yards with iron sights! Freaking amazing!
I have an Izmash Arsenal AK. For awhile now I have been having sighting issues. Have spoken to my local gun shop guys and nobody had any real insight into zeroing an AK. I heard the standard "AK's just aren't that accurate" watching your videos tonight I learned more about my AK than speaking with the "pros" at my gun shop. Now I just gotta get that front post adjustment tool and I will be ready for the range. Keep up the great work! Love the work you are doing
I’m pretty sure most people say AKs are not accurate at long distance. 300 is hardly long distance. That’s not something to hold against the rifle though, they weren’t designed for that purpose.
I used that same tool from the AKOU store to zero my wasr at 100m yesterday. First shot low and left by 9 inches or so, second shot bullseye. Felt like an absolute boss.
Wow... Most impressive!!! My new (& first time owner ) WBP AKM JACK is leaning against the wall in my room. i just got it from an FFL today and can't wait to give this zeroing method a shot! ; ) Thank you Rob for this video. (I loved the way you posted the two cameras!!)
Another fantastic video produced by Rob and his family! Is there anything that you can’t do Rob? It warms my patriotic heart that you are on our side brother. Please keep on putting out these fantastic videos they are truly a treasure to the student of the AK 47.
I've been shopping AKs online for a few weeks and finally jumped in getting the MBP JACK (arrived today). Rob has been my greatest inspiration to enter the AK world as well as the most prolific source of usable information. I plan to keep using my AR but I also see the value in having this platform option as well. Agreeing with you - love his videos!!!
Good demo Rob Ski, I've been using a 35 yard zero (red dot) on my AKs lately. Works really similar in that it's very quick out to 200 yards and 300 is done with minimal hold overs.
@@MyDouble AR 36 yard zero and AK (x39) 36 yard zero are 2 different things. Plug your info into a ballistic calculator that gives you a chart and you'll get accurate numbers for your goal. For most people, the 25 yard zero is the best option because it has the least amount of drop at 300 yards relative to the center of the crosshairs, yet keeps the spread relatively close up to 200 yards.
Nothing but respect for you , fellar. I think people forget how smart you really are. Come to America ,learn to read and write and speak the hardest language in the world. And build your own company from scratch. Nothing but "Genuine Respect." I use this trick and the two shot trick on all my rifles. i bought a Zastava M70 because of your video's ,still waiting on delivery to my ffl ,but any day now. So excited. I bet you'd never go back to the Mother to live again . America is a one of a kind country. God Bless Her. And God Bless you and your family too. Peace.
In my view : You are the Go To Encyclopedia on any of the AK Platform Rifles of Former Soviet Block Countries! Every other Manufacturer is just a copy of the Real Thing! I have been watching your channel for years!😎👍🏿🤗❤️
This looks like the Russian "Bubbasky" way of zeroing your rifle, but a way that actually works. Ill be doing this with mine. Thanks Rob! Merry Christmas to you and Yours Brother!
The best thing about using an AK is that once you've got things set up at an "acceptable" level, that is exactly the level that it was intended to be at the highest point. That way, you can have confidence you aren't doing anything wrong, it's just the way the rifle and ammo is.
When he said he was using Cheap tulammo that made me feel wayyy better. Because everyone else on internet says for AK to be Accurate you must have top end expensive ammo. Thank you Rob. Hopefully you were telling the truth in this video.
Thanks, Rob! I’ve been shooting for 22 years, but just picked up my first AK recently, Palmetto Moekov GF3.. (I already bought your front sight tool, as well) Michigan is starting to finally open up again, and I was going to pop the cherry on my new AK this week. For myself, this video couldn’t have been more timely. Thanks, again! 👊🏼😎
@@Grizzlyman420- my PSAK47-GF3 is a tank, and is holding up extremely well. I’ve since replaced it’s gray Magpul furniture with PSA’s red-wood furniture set. I love the more traditional look.
Based on AK47 manual (year 1949) : With 7.9g (122grain) 700m/s (2296 f/s). Zeroing is performed by shooting 4 of 4 shots from stable prone position with point of aim at the same level as shooter with rear sight set to position "3" (300m) at 100m distance positioned target. Average point of impact must be 28cm (11 inch) higher than point of aim with settings above. When zeroed on 3 then rear site moved to position П or P or S or etc. (depending on country of origin), you shoild be able to hit man size target aiming at the belt from 0m to 300m. From AKM manual (modernized ak47) (year 2015) procedure is similar but load is 7.9g(122 grain) at 715m/s (2346 f/s) at 100m target using position 3 (300m) average centr point of impact must be not 28cm but 25cm (9.84 inch) above point of aim. When zeroed correctly on position 3 and then used with rear most setting "П", "P", etc.. you expect at 50m have 13cm impacts above aim point, 100m + 25cm, 150m +31cm, 200m +30cm, 250m +20cm, 300m +0cm, 350m -31cm. Same logic - on "П" aim at the belt for up to 300m shots. Also if at 100m from stable prone position you canno put 4 of 4 shots within 15cm circle rifle is counted as inacurate and need to be repaired by gunsmith. Max deviation of group center from desired impact point must be not more than 5cm. Ideal zero temperature +15. Air presure - about sea level. When above zeroing is completed, it is expected for settings 1 (100m), 2 (200m) etc. point of impact to match point of aim in case ammo you are using corresponds to ammo spec used for zeroing - 7.9g (122grain) @ 700m/s for AK 47 and 7.9g (122grain) @ 715m/s for AKM models. Hope this is helpful.
Ive always been an AR guy, But just picked up my first AK for Christmas for myself and Im in love. Modified it of course cause thats what I like to do. Now it looks as savage as it shoots.
This is very useful indeed. We have plenty places to shoot in Wyoming but not many places flat enough to shoot and don’t have 100M keep the videos coming Rob
I zeroed similar to his video but have been meaning to try the 25yrds/200meter setting. With that method do you move slider for each distance or leave it at 200 for all?
@@user-pj2hp4ig4o just set target at 25 yards. set your sights for the 2 settings aka 200 meter settings. once you are properly zeroed this way you can move your slider to the battle setting and make accurate shots to 300 yards easy without changing your slider. that's all you have to do. Hate to say it but Rob Ski is overcomplicating sighting in the ak simply because he is trying to get more views.
@@zipper978 But can you move the slider say to 1,3,4 etc.. and hit poa poi with this method? Also, what is the hold low or high on battle setting with this method, thanks
Thanks for getting back to me with my question on your website so quickly. Got a good deal on a james river Polish AK. Taking it our tomorrow to zero it at 25 yards. Keep up the amazing content.
Zeroing at 25 yards, your rear sight setting is on "P". My Pioneer Arms manual calls for setting it on "2". Why the difference?? Should I set mine on "P"??? Great videos.
i tried this method last week on my Burris 5x Prism sight with my Galil ACE SAR 7.62x39, started at 25 yards until i hit the perfect hit on bull's eye. Then tried it at 200 yards right away and i hit 18 out of 20 on a 10" steel plate. A while ago i tried it on my new Zastava M70 AK-47 using iron sight. i have a bad eyesight and need a new prescription glasses because i could not see the steel plate at 200 yards. i tried to put paper target, i hit the center mass but the grouping was not as good as my Galil with 5x Prism scope. But i am satisfied because this trick works on my both rifles, using iron sight and 5x prism scope.
Anyone seen the film Pulp Fiction, and the part where some dude that was hiding out in a back room unloads his big ass revolver on the two characters from close range and completely misses? I feel like that’s the common misconception by the public in regards to the accuracy of the AK. I love dispelling that myth at the range. :)
SonOfTheDawn515 Word on the propaganda. And yet on that same token...I acknowledge that the design intent of the AK being so simple an illiterate conscripted commie peasant can learn the platform is a great strength. I’m not a professional soldier with years of training. I appreciate something built that is so functional and simple that it’s incredibly difficult to make it stop working. And it just so happens that it has great inherent combat accuracy. Yeah give me that one please. To each their own.
Hey guys, I've owned my AKs for over 20 years and this is what I learned from this video, it's not the AK, it's not the ammo, it's not the sights. It's me.
The rear sight on my saiga 7.62 has no "P" but two notches below "1". I guess the bottom notch is "P" but what does the notch between 1 and P refer to?
Great video but I still believe and have found the easiest and quickest was the Black heart International 14 meter AK zero target. And it had the instructions right on the target itself on what to do if the group is in that corner or section of the target and how to return it to the center. Lots of ways to skin a cat still. Thanks for posting this.
@@AkOperatorsUnion then you adopt and improvise. 14 meters is 15 yards.and while many would think 10 yards would and won't much of a difference, I've sadly found that it does with something as finicky as the AK series. The next problem is I encounter is basically why I like the blackheart system setup. It tells you exactly which way to turn the front site or which way to adjust windage when your group pattern is in a certain area of the target. All I have seen is this. Bang bang bang..look at target...make adjustment....bang bang bang..WTH? It's not on target...bang bang bang...still not on target. Adjust opposite direction...bang bang bang ..back to small area of target. And finally they make either the right or wrong adjustment again. Maybe I am just lucky and I encounter low IQ students a lot. But I like targets with instructions on WTH to do when a group is in that section of the target. But your right. I'm gonna go to the range and test out the BH target at 15 yards and 25 yards and see if it makes a difference.
Thank you rob/ula. Been looking for this method of zeroing for quite a while. I put an attero arms red dot mount on my rifle and this method will work much better for me.
I'm getting my first AK, a PSAK GF3 this week and will be doing the zeroing in my "unboxing, zeroing and initial shots/thoughts" video on my channel. It's going to be right out of the box, no cleaning or lubing and will be using TulAmmo
i tried this technique yesterday at 25 yards using my new Zastava M70 ZPAP AK-47. i was able to hit the bull's eye. Now i have to try it at 200 yards. I will update my comments once im done with 200 yards :-)
@@Cryptkeeper0311 i was not able to go back to try 200 yards because of pandemic and ammo shortages. Once the snow/ice is gone i will definitely go back to range
So a 25 yard/Meter zero with POA/POI will correspond with the same POA/POI at 200 yards/Meters with unchanged rear sight setting out of a 16 inch barreled rifle firing 7.62x39mm? So if you wanted to use the graduated rear sight settings over the battle sight zero with this method, it would make sense to use the 2 for 200 meters setting if zeroing the rifle at 25 yards/meters? Because that's what it looks like to me. Excellent video as always, Rob Ski! :D
I've found right settings on ballistic calculator to imitate bullet drop table from soviet AKM manual. *7.9 grams 715 m/s (122gr 2346 ft/s)*. You could zero it on sight setting "2"=200 m at 24 yd (22 m), POA=POI. It should make leaf sight fully functional.
I only just discovered the AK a month ago (always shot ARs). This is the best, most educational and entertaining TH-cam channel for AK content BY FAR and, in general, one of the best GunTubers I now follow. I've got so many questions. Expect an email(s) on the website.
I have shot AR’s my entire life. Thought I’d treat myself to something different and nice. I purchased a PSA GF5 -E with all the bells and whistles $1,400 after tax. The PSA would shoot basically 1” groups at 25 yards and 1.5-2” at 50. Going to 100 yards off bags and holding the best I could, I had about a 5” average with iron sights. I was really hoping for a bit better. Down the road, I may try different ammo but currently I am sitting on 800 rounds of Igman brass cass ammo. I’d love to see that 100 yard ground shrink down for the money spent. Thoughts?
Awesome thank you. I will be doing this tomorrow. This is as good as any method ive seen so far. Until i can get a 100m range and do it the right way which you showed in another video. Thanks for the great content
Good bless your eyes I can't see my sights anymore, I have to use red dot sights to make it easier on my old eyes. I wish I had all that land, I will like to know how good of a shot I am at long distance. My back yard private range is only 150 yards enough to have fun!
Great info thanks, how come you dont use the numbers on the rear sight? Can you explain the rear leaf numbers.
it’s for the hundred meters, so 1 would be 100 and 8 would be 8 hundred, but by then you would be wishing for a hit
Ok, i covered this in previous videos - this "25 yds express method" is to get you quickly on target from 25 to 300yds, but this is not tect book method to zero AK...AK irons are in meters not yards and the best way to zero AK is to do it from 100 meters (again, covered in previous videos). Problem is, ranges in USA often don't offer 100m range...
AK Operators Union, Local 47-74 thanks for reply
Also, the farthest back stop is what is referred to as 'battle sight'; the default setting which will.allow hits on a man-size target out to 300 meters with a properly zeroed rifle.It also happens to correspond to the 300m setting further up the sight ladder.
Great vid, Rob!
Who else is binge watching AKOU?🍻
@William Wallace Not me. Just showing Robski some support 👍 The more likes and comments the better for his channel 😉
(Holds up hand) Here!!!! hahaha
yep
Totally
Yes!
As someone who wears glasses or contacts for distance and has astigmatism, I envy those that can use irons any distance further than 100yds.
At 61 years old, my iron sight shooting days are over. Even with optics, the rear sight is not clear. I was retired from the military when I realized our drill sergeants were teaching us bad techniques. They had us place our noses on the charging handle to get our eyes closer to the rear sight. That might work for someone who is near sighted, but I am farsighted, so the M16 front sight post was swimming around in a way too large circle. In 1981, I had difficulty shooting well at the age of 19. As the years rolled on, it became harder and harder to score well. I probably improved many shooting fundamentals, but didn’t understand that I was too close to the rear sight for effective shots. Add to that then learning that I am right handed, but left eye dominant, and it becomes obvious that I was doing the visual parts wrong. As an Army maintenance soldier, we didn’t shoot very often and the range personnel were interested in processing everyone through and off the range. If you are not combat arms the Army doesn’t spend the time and money to develop all of their troops to excellence. I can remember qualifying with a styrofoam coffee cup full of bullets on about a quarter of the trips we made to the rifle range. Most range sessions were conducted with one or two hundred soldiers and only a quarter to one third of a day. You must shoot a lot, and often to gain proper proficiency with your weapons. What a waste of time! The USMC is just the opposite, and demands the best from every Marine. Penny wise, dollar foolish. Your tax dollars at work. 😮
Rob's 200 yard iron sights groups are better than my 100 yard scoped group's 😂
Yeah I wish I could shoot like that
That was very impressive shooting, no doubt.
Rob's the man! 🤘
The rumor mill has been ugly to the AK series of rifles. A decent AK with good ammo is a deadly weapon in the hands of a skilled shooter. I have owned several in my younger years and never had one that was less accurate than me. 😂 MAGA 🎉
😮😮😮I will be watching all your videos. I just got my first AK. You are a great teacher.
Yep..I use the 25 yard zero. I tighten it up to the point where all my shots are touching.
When I confirm at 100 yards it is 6 inches high.
Let's me know that
1. If I aim at the belt buckle at 100 yrds POI will be center mass.
2. At 200 yards POA= POI.
Is that with the sight set to 1?
Other than the cold bore flyer, that group at 200 yards was beautiful!
this channel is my go-to for AK info.
I agree !
PiratesUnion official statement: gas tube is always zeroed
Hahahah!
@@AkOperatorsUnion rob:
1. When are we getting pirate union t shirts for the store
2. Can you call and get AKE back in stock?
3. #goatsquad
@@jaredlostetter265 PSA is waiting on the nickel boron bolts and bolt carriers. May also we waiting on barrels from FN. Not sure if they have received the shipment or not.
If the gas tube is not zero'd you walk the plank matey!!!♠️♠️♠️😁
Aaaaarrgh!
Your 'express' method for zeroing an AK works well. 👌
I like the acronym FORS, for adjusting sights. Front - opposite, Rear - same.
For example, If you want to move impact to left, move front sight right (opposite). If you want to move impact up, move rear sight up (same).
This acronym has always helped me and works well when teaching new or young shooters.
@Mike Bastiat, the acronym is just a way to remember how to achieve your goal. If you only have one sight that can be adjusted, then you have to adjust that one obviously - but the rule still applies. A rear sight moves the direction you want the impact to move, while the front sight moves opposite of what you want the impact to move. FYI, some AKs do in fact have a windage adjustment on the rear sight. RPK style AKs commonly have a windage adjustment on the rear sight. Many people will even swap out a rear sight for a RPK rear sight to get an easier windage adjustment. AKs also have elevation adjustments on the front and rear.
They really put alot of thought into the AK. Such a user friendly reliable rifle.
insane skill to do this on iron sights. very few people on youtube seems to hit anything above 200yd without a scope, even less on an AK. Man, I wish I could shoot like this someday
AK's kick ass. My AR hasn't seen the light of day since I bought my first AK years ago. Thanks Robski.
RowdyRon AR platform is for little girls. AK is a man’s rifle. 🤣
Same here!
@@hawk66100 🤣 very good.
Little girls don't like recoil for that reason they love the AR.
@@useryggfdcc that's why I got a 7.62x39 ar. Dont like the ak recoil.
@@brokenman5253 Lol what, the 7.62x39 does not have much recoil.
In 1967 when I went through USMC Basic we zeroed our M14 on the 1,000-inch range which is just a bit more than 25 yards. Since then I've zeroed all my rifles at 25 yards and have had very good success getting them zeroed with less than 10 rounds.
You need 10 rounds to zero a rifle at 25 yards? Really? If you know what you're doing should only take 3.
Love seeing a fellow American enjoying his 2nd amendment rights! And holy hell, dude pulling head shots at 300 yards with iron sights! Freaking amazing!
yeah just wait til their completely taken away
@@amanwithnoname2744 not while we are alive!
@@kylejohnson3382 hope so
he is polish not amerikan
@@Deni-nl1ce he was born polish but is now American. In many ways he is more American than some Americans
I think AK Operators Union is my favorite firearms channel. Good, honest and no BS reviews and information. Rob Ski is just a straight shooter.
Seeing the rounds flying through the air before they hit the target never gets old.
I have an Izmash Arsenal AK. For awhile now I have been having sighting issues. Have spoken to my local gun shop guys and nobody had any real insight into zeroing an AK. I heard the standard "AK's just aren't that accurate" watching your videos tonight I learned more about my AK than speaking with the "pros" at my gun shop. Now I just gotta get that front post adjustment tool and I will be ready for the range. Keep up the great work! Love the work you are doing
I bought that exact same sighting tool and it works great! You won't be disappointed.
So happy and grateful I found this channel!
Iron sights, Tula ammo, and wind. Rob still gets hits to 300. Amazing! I love when people say AKs are not accurate.
I’m pretty sure most people say AKs are not accurate at long distance. 300 is hardly long distance. That’s not something to hold against the rifle though, they weren’t designed for that purpose.
@@protoman1214 Rifles in general are not good at long distance. For long distance you need ICBM.
@@victor_lar500 yards are easy with ars
223 you might have to double tap to get the same results of 1 shot of 7.6x39@@jamirbingham4101
I used that same tool from the AKOU store to zero my wasr at 100m yesterday. First shot low and left by 9 inches or so, second shot bullseye. Felt like an absolute boss.
The end dive into what everyone needed to work on was awesome. Good to see.
Wow... Most impressive!!! My new (& first time owner ) WBP AKM JACK is leaning against the wall in my room. i just got it from an FFL today and can't wait to give this zeroing method a shot! ; )
Thank you Rob for this video. (I loved the way you posted the two cameras!!)
Hands down my favorite person these days.
Another fantastic video produced by Rob and his family! Is there anything that you can’t do Rob? It warms my patriotic heart that you are on our side brother. Please keep on putting out these fantastic videos they are truly a treasure to the student of the AK 47.
I've been shopping AKs online for a few weeks and finally jumped in getting the MBP JACK (arrived today).
Rob has been my greatest inspiration to enter the AK world as well as the most prolific source of usable information. I plan to keep using my AR but I also see the value in having this platform option as well.
Agreeing with you - love his videos!!!
Good demo Rob Ski, I've been using a 35 yard zero (red dot) on my AKs lately. Works really similar in that it's very quick out to 200 yards and 300 is done with minimal hold overs.
I was wondering how well that works, i have my AR at a 36 yards
@@MyDouble AR 36 yard zero and AK (x39) 36 yard zero are 2 different things. Plug your info into a ballistic calculator that gives you a chart and you'll get accurate numbers for your goal. For most people, the 25 yard zero is the best option because it has the least amount of drop at 300 yards relative to the center of the crosshairs, yet keeps the spread relatively close up to 200 yards.
Rob, please get the don't tread on me T-shirts back in stock, I want one!
I want one too! But I need it in 4x!
@@MakThaNife I just had to praise your name!!!!!
I need a We Won’t Comply hoodie! Thanks Rob!
Nothing but respect for you , fellar. I think people forget how smart you really are. Come to America ,learn to read and write and speak the hardest language in the world. And build your own company from scratch. Nothing but "Genuine Respect." I use this trick and the two shot trick on all my rifles. i bought a Zastava M70 because of your video's ,still waiting on delivery to my ffl ,but any day now. So excited. I bet you'd never go back to the Mother to live again . America is a one of a kind country. God Bless Her. And God Bless you and your family too. Peace.
English isn’t the hardest, but he is coming from Polish which is one of the hardest. Either way, extremely impressive.
In my view : You are the Go To Encyclopedia on any of the AK Platform Rifles of Former Soviet Block Countries! Every other Manufacturer is just a copy of the Real Thing! I have been watching your channel for years!😎👍🏿🤗❤️
This looks like the Russian "Bubbasky" way of zeroing your rifle, but a way that actually works. Ill be doing this with mine. Thanks Rob! Merry Christmas to you and Yours Brother!
The best thing about using an AK is that once you've got things set up at an "acceptable" level, that is exactly the level that it was intended to be at the highest point. That way, you can have confidence you aren't doing anything wrong, it's just the way the rifle and ammo is.
When he said he was using Cheap tulammo that made me feel wayyy better.
Because everyone else on internet says for AK to be Accurate you must have top end expensive ammo. Thank you Rob. Hopefully you were telling the truth in this video.
Amazing video thank you, im getting my first AK soon the zastava m70 and im so ready to take it out to the range!
Quick and dirty, sounds like you have been hanging out with Garand Thumb
Binge watching while my girlfriend is in the ER. Thanks for helping calm my nerves, man.
200 yards...open sights with an AK.....in the triangle....superb shooting.
Thanks, Rob! I’ve been shooting for 22 years, but just picked up my first AK recently, Palmetto Moekov GF3.. (I already bought your front sight tool, as well) Michigan is starting to finally open up again, and I was going to pop the cherry on my new AK this week. For myself, this video couldn’t have been more timely. Thanks, again! 👊🏼😎
Enjoy the AK my michigan brother.👊🗽
Sgt. Charlie - Hell, yes 🇺🇸😎👍🏼
Yea Michigan! (Ludington) Just hopped aboard the AK train! First shots this weekend!!
How’s your ak holding up? Would love feedback
@@Grizzlyman420- my PSAK47-GF3 is a tank, and is holding up extremely well. I’ve since replaced it’s gray Magpul furniture with PSA’s red-wood furniture set. I love the more traditional look.
If I could shoot like that with iron sights at 200 and 300 yards, I'd never use a scope. Bad ass sniper Rob Ski
"I'm going to move my front post"
*Laughs in rpk rear sight*
So is P basically the 200-yard mark on the sight. Based on 25 yard zero.
Based on AK47 manual (year 1949) : With 7.9g (122grain) 700m/s (2296 f/s). Zeroing is performed by shooting 4 of 4 shots from stable prone position with point of aim at the same level as shooter with rear sight set to position "3" (300m) at 100m distance positioned target. Average point of impact must be 28cm (11 inch) higher than point of aim with settings above. When zeroed on 3 then rear site moved to position П or P or S or etc. (depending on country of origin), you shoild be able to hit man size target aiming at the belt from 0m to 300m. From AKM manual (modernized ak47) (year 2015) procedure is similar but load is 7.9g(122 grain) at 715m/s (2346 f/s) at 100m target using position 3 (300m) average centr point of impact must be not 28cm but 25cm (9.84 inch) above point of aim. When zeroed correctly on position 3 and then used with rear most setting "П", "P", etc.. you expect at 50m have 13cm impacts above aim point, 100m + 25cm, 150m +31cm, 200m +30cm, 250m +20cm, 300m +0cm, 350m -31cm. Same logic - on "П" aim at the belt for up to 300m shots. Also if at 100m from stable prone position you canno put 4 of 4 shots within 15cm circle rifle is counted as inacurate and need to be repaired by gunsmith. Max deviation of group center from desired impact point must be not more than 5cm. Ideal zero temperature +15. Air presure - about sea level. When above zeroing is completed, it is expected for settings 1 (100m), 2 (200m) etc. point of impact to match point of aim in case ammo you are using corresponds to ammo spec used for zeroing - 7.9g (122grain) @ 700m/s for AK 47 and 7.9g (122grain) @ 715m/s for AKM models. Hope this is helpful.
*You continue to amaze!!!! I cannot even SEE a target at 200 without optics. This is a great video, one of the best for sighting in! Thank you!!*
Ive always been an AR guy, But just picked up my first AK for Christmas for myself and Im in love. Modified it of course cause thats what I like to do. Now it looks as savage as it shoots.
This is very useful indeed. We have plenty places to shoot in Wyoming but not many places flat enough to shoot and don’t have 100M keep the videos coming Rob
Zero at 25 yards on setting 2. Same poi at 200 meters. There you go you are zeroed for all 100 meter increments.
I zeroed similar to his video but have been meaning to try the 25yrds/200meter setting. With that method do you move slider for each distance or leave it at 200 for all?
@@user-pj2hp4ig4o just set target at 25 yards. set your sights for the 2 settings aka 200 meter settings. once you are properly zeroed this way you can move your slider to the battle setting and make accurate shots to 300 yards easy without changing your slider. that's all you have to do. Hate to say it but Rob Ski is overcomplicating sighting in the ak simply because he is trying to get more views.
@@zipper978 But can you move the slider say to 1,3,4 etc.. and hit poa poi with this method? Also, what is the hold low or high on battle setting with this method, thanks
@@LF12468 yes you can move it. it will be zeroed for all settings
@@zipper978 Big help thanks, I have a SKS we are sighting in soon. I'm assuming the same applies?
Beautiful shooting, Brother
Your vids are still teaching. Thank you.
Thank you, a big help to me in zeroing in my AKs.
Rob I just got AK and I did this at range it’s hitting great at 100yds I couldn’t believe it!
Rob I just got Ak and I did this at range it is hitting great thanks so much!
Thanks for getting back to me with my question on your website so quickly. Got a good deal on a james river Polish AK. Taking it our tomorrow to zero it at 25 yards. Keep up the amazing content.
I think he is just showing off. Now I want that AK. WHAT AK DOES 1" GROUP AT 200Y?! THATS SUB MOA!
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NO bullshit=100% efficiency...😁🇺🇸💖
Zeroing at 25 yards, your rear sight setting is on "P". My Pioneer Arms manual calls for setting it on "2". Why the difference?? Should I set mine on "P"??? Great videos.
How did you end up sighting yours in? I’m very curious
i tried this method last week on my Burris 5x Prism sight with my Galil ACE SAR 7.62x39, started at 25 yards until i hit the perfect hit on bull's eye. Then tried it at 200 yards right away and i hit 18 out of 20 on a 10" steel plate. A while ago i tried it on my new Zastava M70 AK-47 using iron sight. i have a bad eyesight and need a new prescription glasses because i could not see the steel plate at 200 yards. i tried to put paper target, i hit the center mass but the grouping was not as good as my Galil with 5x Prism scope. But i am satisfied because this trick works on my both rifles, using iron sight and 5x prism scope.
Just watched again. A fantastic video, Rob!
The 3rd time Rob has made a zeroing video people! 3RD TIME! ZERO YOUR GOD FORSAKEN RIFLES!!! 😂😂
Just ordered the stock from you and tracking # so fast I love it Thanks Mr Rob u are the best 🙏🏽
Good info. I just mounted a new scope and wasn't on paper at 25m. That was about the first time in a year. Flattop AR's will make you lazy.
Just got the AKOU AK Boot Camp booklet! Very informative and easy to understand terms. Watching this video even made more understandable! Thank you!
Rob Ski laying down those hits like a bad ass bass player bringing the thunder.
Anyone seen the film Pulp Fiction, and the part where some dude that was hiding out in a back room unloads his big ass revolver on the two characters from close range and completely misses? I feel like that’s the common misconception by the public in regards to the accuracy of the AK. I love dispelling that myth at the range. :)
Decades of propaganda and the common user of the AK can't shoot for shit (conscripts, child soldiers, hajjis, etc).
SonOfTheDawn515 Word on the propaganda. And yet on that same token...I acknowledge that the design intent of the AK being so simple an illiterate conscripted commie peasant can learn the platform is a great strength. I’m not a professional soldier with years of training. I appreciate something built that is so functional and simple that it’s incredibly difficult to make it stop working. And it just so happens that it has great inherent combat accuracy. Yeah give me that one please. To each their own.
*Thanks for reminding me....I need to keep one of those AK front sight adjustment tools on my person, with my rifle.*
*Thumbs up # 2.7K+1*
Hey guys, I've owned my AKs for over 20 years and this is what I learned from this video, it's not the AK, it's not the ammo, it's not the sights. It's me.
Great Video since most indoor ranges are about 75 feet (25 yards) I have a Romanian Sar-1 AK47.
Excellent guide and shooting. I got my AKM Radom adjusted the same method, from 25 up to 100m.
I love this channel! I've had my WASR for almost 8 years and loving it!
thanks to your video, i now know how to do it. just bought a vska, you made it look simple, and thats some good shooting
The rear sight on my saiga 7.62 has no "P" but two notches below "1". I guess the bottom notch is "P" but what does the notch between 1 and P refer to?
Great video but I still believe and have found the easiest and quickest was the Black heart International 14 meter AK zero target. And it had the instructions right on the target itself on what to do if the group is in that corner or section of the target and how to return it to the center.
Lots of ways to skin a cat still.
Thanks for posting this.
Rudolf, problem with commercial ranges in US is, you usually have: 5yds, 10yds, 25yds, 50yds and 100yds only...
@@AkOperatorsUnion then you adopt and improvise. 14 meters is 15 yards.and while many would think 10 yards would and won't much of a difference, I've sadly found that it does with something as finicky as the AK series. The next problem is I encounter is basically why I like the blackheart system setup. It tells you exactly which way to turn the front site or which way to adjust windage when your group pattern is in a certain area of the target. All I have seen is this. Bang bang bang..look at target...make adjustment....bang bang bang..WTH? It's not on target...bang bang bang...still not on target. Adjust opposite direction...bang bang bang ..back to small area of target. And finally they make either the right or wrong adjustment again.
Maybe I am just lucky and I encounter low IQ students a lot. But I like targets with instructions on WTH to do when a group is in that section of the target.
But your right. I'm gonna go to the range and test out the BH target at 15 yards and 25 yards and see if it makes a difference.
The 200 yards shots are too fricking satisfying
Best teacher ever… Dude… Fantastic training videos!
that wasr got some ar accuracy
Thank you rob/ula. Been looking for this method of zeroing for quite a while. I put an attero arms red dot mount on my rifle and this method will work much better for me.
Amazing that bro is hitting target every time at 300. Awesome
I'm getting my first AK, a PSAK GF3 this week and will be doing the zeroing in my "unboxing, zeroing and initial shots/thoughts" video on my channel. It's going to be right out of the box, no cleaning or lubing and will be using TulAmmo
Thank you for everything you do, the knowledge you pass on is more valuable than a Golden Suchka
Nice Demo Rob & Uli. Good job. I learned allot from this.
That's amazing! I've been going about it wrong for years! Thanks Rob!
We have wasted a whole lot of ammo in the past, understand what you're saying.
i tried this technique yesterday at 25 yards using my new Zastava M70 ZPAP AK-47. i was able to hit the bull's eye. Now i have to try it at 200 yards. I will update my comments once im done with 200 yards :-)
How did your 200y string of fire go?
@@Cryptkeeper0311 i was not able to go back to try 200 yards because of pandemic and ammo shortages. Once the snow/ice is gone i will definitely go back to range
Wow. You’re good!
Great accuracy and precision.
That 200yd group was insane minus the one flyer.
The cheapest Tula ammo will do the job with a good zero. The Gospel according to Robski.
In the Corps we shot irons out to 500 with no problem. Semper Fi
My AKOU hat shipped today 👍perfect fathers day gift..rob shipped it the next day!!!
I always love your videos rob and thank you from the bottom of my heart the great work you do for us . YOUR # ONE. !!!!!!!
Beautiful rifle! That wood looks great, where is it from?
Looks like Polish surplus wood but who knows when it was purchased
Looks like Fox rifle - great looking!
Zero has never been this great.
So a 25 yard/Meter zero with POA/POI will correspond with the same POA/POI at 200 yards/Meters with unchanged rear sight setting out of a 16 inch barreled rifle firing 7.62x39mm?
So if you wanted to use the graduated rear sight settings over the battle sight zero with this method, it would make sense to use the 2 for 200 meters setting if zeroing the rifle at 25 yards/meters? Because that's what it looks like to me. Excellent video as always, Rob Ski! :D
The easiest way to zero is setting 2 at 25 yards. That’s literally all you have to do to zero for all increments
@@zipper978 What do you recommend for a zero at 50 yards? None of my local ranges have a 25 yard option
I've found right settings on ballistic calculator to imitate bullet drop table from soviet AKM manual. *7.9 grams 715 m/s (122gr 2346 ft/s)*.
You could zero it on sight setting "2"=200 m at 24 yd (22 m), POA=POI. It should make leaf sight fully functional.
Rob great video. Can you tell me what target you were using at 25 yards?
That’s some seriously good shooting for iron sights at those distances
I only just discovered the AK a month ago (always shot ARs). This is the best, most educational and entertaining TH-cam channel for AK content BY FAR and, in general, one of the best GunTubers I now follow.
I've got so many questions. Expect an email(s) on the website.
You're a beast dude ... Very good job
I have shot AR’s my entire life. Thought I’d treat myself to something different and nice. I purchased a PSA GF5 -E with all the bells and whistles $1,400 after tax. The PSA would shoot basically 1” groups at 25 yards and 1.5-2” at 50. Going to 100 yards off bags and holding the best I could, I had about a 5” average with iron sights. I was really hoping for a bit better. Down the road, I may try different ammo but currently I am sitting on 800 rounds of Igman brass cass ammo. I’d love to see that 100 yard ground shrink down for the money spent. Thoughts?
I like how Rob says, "if I can hit the target" yeah right
Awesome thank you. I will be doing this tomorrow. This is as good as any method ive seen so far. Until i can get a 100m range and do it the right way which you showed in another video. Thanks for the great content
Thanks rob your videos are always helpful and entertaining. Should be getting my manga matic soon!
Good bless your eyes I can't see my sights anymore, I have to use red dot sights to make it easier on my old eyes. I wish I had all that land, I will like to know how good of a shot I am at long distance. My back yard private range is only 150 yards enough to have fun!