Generally it’s not because of the higher quality camera. The key to seeing the vapor trail of a bullet (through spotting scope or camera) is to take it just a micro smidge out of focus. The object you’re sitting at shouldn’t be crystal clear but just ever so slight hazy.
It's a heat trail. Similar to what spotters see through their scopes. I only know this because of the old history Channel documentary about the Army's sniper school.
Rob, I'm loving this channel and these videos! I think the 300 meter target would have been a good spot for a conversation about mechanical limitations of a non-precision Rifle/Ammo and how your 2-3MOA rifle will naturally disperse rounds at that distance and how it shows up on the steel. It might help those who don't understand that they may get x (insert #) inches or more of dispersion at that distance and it has absolutely nothing to do with what they are doing on their end. I've been following you since the beginning and my original AKOU shirt is still worn around the house. I appreciate what you do!
I think the shooter disperses more than the rifle, at least if it's a good rifle with good ammo. ak-103 with russian military or barnaul ammo is between 1 and 1.5 moa, the wind and the shooter have a much bigger impact at 300 than the rifle/ammo combo.
@@VxNemesis I’ll agree that most rifles are more capable than their shooters. Do you have any good data to point to about the 1-1.5MOA claim that I can read? I find that highly unlikely and in my experience 2-4 MOA is more much realistic. I only have anecdotal evidence and can’t point you to hard data except my own experience but with that disclaimer I’ll share my thoughts. I own SGL’s, Arsenals, etc and routinely shoot out to 500 meters (not claiming consistent hits) with my AKs on man sized steel and I’m very dubious of any 1 MOA claim for an 7.62 AK with factory ammo. Now, the argument could be made as to my ability as a shooter but I have competed with good results and feel comfortable enough in my ability and knowledge to join the discussion but I am willing to learn what I don’t know. If you read some of the other comments on this video you may see that people think that impacting dead center at 300 with a 2-4MOA combat rifle (vs neck or belt line) is attributed more to skill than just the luck of what is essentially a 6-12” beaten zone you’ll understand the intent of my comment. Now of course the skill of the shooter lies in consistent sight alignment, sight picture, and firing the weapon without imparting movement. I’m talking about the inherent dispersion of the rounds and assuming the shooter is not a variable in this conversation. I think Rob could make a great educational video discussing MOA, how tolerances work and their effect on accuracy…etc. I believe if some of his audience had a better understanding it would show what he does is even more impressive than they thought.
Hi Michael I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….
Good job. The haircut is First Sergeant approved incidentally. As a side note, I find myself at work saying “enough of the BS talk” significantly more than I used to. 🤣
@@AkOperatorsUnion hey Rob , there's a new ak 47 out it's the dpms anvil forged ak47 you gonna run one thru the torture test would love to see how it does.thinking about getting one but would love to know how it does first.thanks
@@AkOperatorsUnion I don't know about that, I've seen plenty of footage of your long range shooting, but she is a hell of a shot, for sure better than me.
Great demo to prove that zeroing at 25yds for both the iron sight and the red dot as an initial condition setup works fine at designated distances without messing the sights (both the iron n red dot). The arching ballistic adjustment is expected on the POA. Thank you!
Man I can honestly say I enjoy watching your gun videos over other channels. I love the commentary and your camera shots are always creative and top notch! Thanks for your credible information and skills Rob and Ula. Keepem coming bro. 🤘🏻🇨🇱💯
One this about using that M4 target for zeroing a red dot: When zeroing a red dot on an M4 at 25m, the point of impact is supposed to be 1.5 squares (1.4cm) below the point of aim
Got behind on Robs uploads, so I'm catching up today. I really appreciate the time Mr and Mrs Robski put into the channel !! I bought a Primary Arms Gen 3, 3x Prism optic (from AKOU store) and mounted it on my Galil Ace 7.62x39 rifle. Life has a way of changing priorities, so I have not had the time to sight it in. 25 yards is where I always start, with any optic, so this is just another video from Rob that fits perfectly ! The range I use at present has 25, 50, and 100 yard set targets. Minute of man, vs. MOA is my primary concern using bulk ammo (vs. my hunting handloads) Should be good to go once I can GET TO THE RANGE! Thanks Rob, for everything 👍👍
Biggest hurdle for new AK owners is the most basic thing. How to and where to zero. I send everybody to these reference videos. It’s one thing to explain holdovers and unders but visual aids Rob uses keeps it simple
I would stick with the 24y/200m Zero. Set rear Leaf sight to 200m. Zero rifle at 24 YARDS with preferred ammunition. Step back to desired distance, set rear leaf sight and confirm zero.
@@rickflag303 Just call it 7.62x39 magic. Simple explanation is the round crosses your Line of Site at 24 YARDS going up and 200 METERS coming down. So to zero at 24 Yards is the same as zeroing the rifle at 200 Meters but way easier and removes human error and some environmental factors. (and lots of walking)
Literally perfect video. I only wish you would have shown the second POA/POI distance. It seems to be around 200 yds or so, making that a 25/200 yd zero? Those holds at 100/150 are pretty drastic though I would think.
I run optics on my ARs. But on my AK I use iron sights only and she’s perfect out to 200 yards. I love my Zastava. I have all surplus Russian furniture on her and a few Bakelite mags and she’s a beauty. I don’t want to ruin her looks with some ugly optic and mount. Just my choice. Great channel Rob. So glad I found you
The 25 yd Zero is a winner for 7.62 X 39. I’ve used it for a few years. It’s good to 300 yds as you demonstrated, I just need to remember the holds at 250/300.
It’s funny how we show combat effectiveness with poverty tier Steel cased ammo. AR guys are picking through a catalog of cases to find their 1 moa round their rifle likes lol.
Merely getting hits does not always translate to combat effectiveness. In terms of terminal performance, bimetal bullets have been shown in numerous tests to be underwhelming. That's the real downside of the cheap steel ammo.
the funny thing is when looking at magazine tests of various akm's they typically run 3 different ammo brands to showcase the rifle, 2 gucci tier rounds and wolf, and its fun to watch the wolf almost always post a inch or so better than the gucci stuff
@@wdixon27 lol wolf usually groups tighter at 100yards than match shit. Which is weird because the velocity bullet to bullet is usually much lower than advertised and like 70fps difference
Oh man o man! I just ordered a couple of these Rs regulate PA combos from your store! Thanks for the quick shipping, haven’t had a chance to sight in yet.
Thank you. Just what I needed. Wonder if you could have a guest on to discuss changes in eyesight after cataract surgery and how that might affect targeting and red dot, scope setup. I would think other "old timers" might have similar issues and it's rarely discussed online. After dual cataract surgery my parallax changed no longer allowing me to sight with both eyes. My solution was a Primary Arms 2.5 ACSS w/diopter prism red dot for use on my Kalashnikov-USA Vitayz, Romanian AK-47, and test on my Kalashnikov Saiga-12. It works perfectly for me, allowing targeting with both eyes open and stay cognizant of my surroundings. Because it has an incredible eye relief, I can use it both as a 1x and 2.5x interchangeably with no adjustments. A diopter is a must and the ACCS adds to accuracy at almost every distance and weather condition. Helpful resources to improve targeting: 1) The US Army "Rifle and Carbine" technical manual, May 2016, doc TC 3-22.9 [+ w/lots of info for CQB and competition], and 2) US Army Reserve Marksman, "Improving Rifle Zero Ranges". FY 2019 2nd Quarter. Search for both as PDF files. They are easily found and I was afraid TH-cam would delete the actual links.
HAHAHA. Ula showing who's the boss at the end was priceless!
Center mass… that was a great shot
You got a great camera, you can see the shock wave from the round as it travels. Wicked cool.
I have never seen any other youtuber with this camera quality for gunshots... I wanna know what he's using
Generally it’s not because of the higher quality camera. The key to seeing the vapor trail of a bullet (through spotting scope or camera) is to take it just a micro smidge out of focus. The object you’re sitting at shouldn’t be crystal clear but just ever so slight hazy.
@@cfltitan great info 👍 thanks man
It's a heat trail. Similar to what spotters see through their scopes. I only know this because of the old history Channel documentary about the Army's sniper school.
@@SharkByteOfficial in pretty much all of TexasPlinking's long range videos you can see the heat trail. Cool stuff.
Rob's haircut looks like the haircuts in the movie : Mad Max 2 Road Warrior. Love it ❤😃
Looks like a Street fighter character. M bison lol
Hahahaha, right?
@@AkOperatorsUnion “hell ya brother” -hulk hogan voice
its like mine ..but not mine .
Vaas Montenegro!
@@AkOperatorsUnion
Rob do you have original tula made AK 74 manufactured in 1981 ?
man im dying to see that your hand !
Good demonstration video! It really explained the reason behind why we zero 7.62x39s at 25yd for the practical use.
Rob has single handedly turned me into an ak fan . Love the channel
Rob, I'm loving this channel and these videos! I think the 300 meter target would have been a good spot for a conversation about mechanical limitations of a non-precision Rifle/Ammo and how your 2-3MOA rifle will naturally disperse rounds at that distance and how it shows up on the steel. It might help those who don't understand that they may get x (insert #) inches or more of dispersion at that distance and it has absolutely nothing to do with what they are doing on their end. I've been following you since the beginning and my original AKOU shirt is still worn around the house. I appreciate what you do!
It’s pretty mind boggling how different 1 MOA 2 MOA and 3 MOA are at ranges exceeding 500 yards
Ak was designed and intended for 300m on human size target so I'd say this performance and zero is good to go.
@@talltale9760 That might be so, but most shooters in the States don't even have consistent access to ranges beyond 300 yards.
I think the shooter disperses more than the rifle, at least if it's a good rifle with good ammo.
ak-103 with russian military or barnaul ammo is between 1 and 1.5 moa, the wind and the shooter have a much bigger impact at 300 than the rifle/ammo combo.
@@VxNemesis I’ll agree that most rifles are more capable than their shooters.
Do you have any good data to point to about the 1-1.5MOA claim that I can read? I find that highly unlikely and in my experience 2-4 MOA is more much realistic.
I only have anecdotal evidence and can’t point you to hard data except my own experience but with that disclaimer I’ll share my thoughts.
I own SGL’s, Arsenals, etc and routinely shoot out to 500 meters (not claiming consistent hits) with my AKs on man sized steel and I’m very dubious of any 1 MOA claim for an 7.62 AK with factory ammo.
Now, the argument could be made as to my ability as a shooter but I have competed with good results and feel comfortable enough in my ability and knowledge to join the discussion but I am willing to learn what I don’t know.
If you read some of the other comments on this video you may see that people think that impacting dead center at 300 with a 2-4MOA combat rifle (vs neck or belt line) is attributed more to skill than just the luck of what is essentially a 6-12” beaten zone you’ll understand the intent of my comment. Now of course the skill of the shooter lies in consistent sight alignment, sight picture, and firing the weapon without imparting movement. I’m talking about the inherent dispersion of the rounds and assuming the shooter is not a variable in this conversation.
I think Rob could make a great educational video discussing MOA, how tolerances work and their effect on accuracy…etc. I believe if some of his audience had a better understanding it would show what he does is even more impressive than they thought.
Loved the vid at 10:00 when you can actually see the round arcing into the target! Rob, keep providing banger content like this!
Shows how hard these rounds hit too.
Hi Michael I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….
Good job. The haircut is First Sergeant approved incidentally. As a side note, I find myself at work saying “enough of the BS talk” significantly more than I used to. 🤣
That is a great Hair Cut Rob... Always great to see you shoot.
Hahahaha, right?!
@@AkOperatorsUnion hey Rob , there's a new ak 47 out it's the dpms anvil forged ak47 you gonna run one thru the torture test would love to see how it does.thinking about getting one but would love to know how it does first.thanks
Exceptional marksmanship at all ranges 👏Thank you AKOU for all the videos over the years.
Besides providing us with very informative and entertaining videos, Thanks Rob and Ula for being such good and friendly folks.
Get the whole family in on the fun! It would be great to see how different shooters do with different set ups!
Hey Rob. Your wife shoots better than you at 300 yards!
Shes gonna put you out of a job Rob Ski! She was dead center on that 300 yard target! Great video as always!
Thanks again Ula and Rob for all you do for us. We appreciate all y'all do for us especially in these days.
Extremely valuable information especially for 25 yard zero holds!
Thanks Rob! I run a Romeo5 on my DDI 16" and you answered some important questions. I'll commit these numbers to memory.
As a woman new to the hobby, it’s encouraging to see your wife and daughter shooting also 👍🏾😊
Great video! Thank you so much for all your doing.
God bless you and your family, and keep bringing this great videos
Thanks Rob, excellent informational video, and Ula has that camera work on point.
And she shoots better than me! 😀
@@AkOperatorsUnion Yes she does. ;)
@@AkOperatorsUnion I don't know about that, I've seen plenty of footage of your long range shooting, but she is a hell of a shot, for sure better than me.
I really like that you have the whole family involved in shooting
As a new AK user.. your videos helped me a lot.
Ha! You are one of my new Fav people to watch...Got my first AK after wanting one for years and learning tons from you! Thnx!
Always love your squared away content!
Thanks, Rob, you have a great way of explaining things, simple and easy.
Great demo to prove that zeroing at 25yds for both the iron sight
and the red dot as an initial condition setup works fine at designated
distances without messing the sights (both the iron n red dot). The
arching ballistic adjustment is expected on the POA.
Thank you!
Always enjoy watching your videos Rob and the first time I saw your sidekick Ula :-). Very informative and entertaining demonstration.
Good shot Ula! I love seeing the vapor trail when you shoot, great camera work.
This is the info I’ve been looking for. Thank you.
Well done Rob.
Good to see both of you infront of the lens. Good vid. Thx
Recently finished building an AK and glad for this vid since idk how to use it well atm
Fine instruction and acting, Mr. Union.
Love your videos, thanks for taking the time to do them.
Man I can honestly say I enjoy watching your gun videos over other channels. I love the commentary and your camera shots are always creative and top notch! Thanks for your credible information and skills Rob and Ula. Keepem coming bro. 🤘🏻🇨🇱💯
Another very informative video . Well done. Time to sight in the red dot on my Romanian Wasa10 at 25 yards. Keep up the good work...
Thank you so much Rob and Ula
One this about using that M4 target for zeroing a red dot: When zeroing a red dot on an M4 at 25m, the point of impact is supposed to be 1.5 squares (1.4cm) below the point of aim
Only with 5.56.
The no b.s. live TV shots are the best. Love the videos keep up the good work.
Got behind on Robs uploads, so I'm catching up today. I really appreciate the time Mr and Mrs Robski put into the channel !! I bought a Primary Arms Gen 3, 3x Prism optic (from AKOU store) and mounted it on my Galil Ace 7.62x39 rifle. Life has a way of changing priorities, so I have not had the time to sight it in. 25 yards is where I always start, with any optic, so this is just another video from Rob that fits perfectly ! The range I use at present has 25, 50, and 100 yard set targets. Minute of man, vs. MOA is my primary concern using bulk ammo (vs. my hunting handloads) Should be good to go once I can GET TO THE RANGE! Thanks Rob, for everything 👍👍
Best gun channel on TH-cam 👏👏👏👍👍
7:02 so cool how you can see the trail of the bullet!
Hi, Rob Ski!!! I started missing you and your videos!
Very nice and informative as always!
Best regards from Russia!
I from Armenia! I love Russia man! We can be brothers!
This was a FANTASTIC practical video. Thanks Rob.
I used the Soviet Arms Rear Sight Picatinny Mount. I absolutely love it.
I following you for a while..
Love the videos man.. And you acsent makes them unique keep it up.
I like iron sights but I should get a optic.
Rob!!! I love these videos. We need an SKS zero video though. I know you have the ak pattern zero videos but we need SKS video. Please ☺
Biggest hurdle for new AK owners is the most basic thing. How to and where to zero. I send everybody to these reference videos.
It’s one thing to explain holdovers and unders but visual aids Rob uses keeps it simple
I would stick with the 24y/200m Zero. Set rear Leaf sight to 200m. Zero rifle at 24 YARDS with preferred ammunition. Step back to desired distance, set rear leaf sight and confirm zero.
@@jamesshumate782 simple stupid method that works
@@jamesshumate782 why 24 as opposed to 25?
@@rickflag303 Just call it 7.62x39 magic. Simple explanation is the round crosses your Line of Site at 24 YARDS going up and 200 METERS coming down. So to zero at 24 Yards is the same as zeroing the rifle at 200 Meters but way easier and removes human error and some environmental factors. (and lots of walking)
Thanks so much. I literally just did this with red dot using iron sight zero video 3 days ago!
Literally perfect video. I only wish you would have shown the second POA/POI distance. It seems to be around 200 yds or so, making that a 25/200 yd zero? Those holds at 100/150 are pretty drastic though I would think.
Nice hit Ula, In the triangle! Love the channel.
That was awesome.. And what a shot at the end center mass.. Like a pro
She nailed it bullseye!
Excellent image quality for the video. Nice work!
I run optics on my ARs. But on my AK I use iron sights only and she’s perfect out to 200 yards. I love my Zastava. I have all surplus Russian furniture on her and a few Bakelite mags and she’s a beauty. I don’t want to ruin her looks with some ugly optic and mount. Just my choice. Great channel Rob. So glad I found you
I understand that on certain models. I however bought the Archangel stock Zastava, and I think a 512C will only add to her beauty.
@@Catgat37 I agree
Thank U for this vid ! Just added green dot to my AK last week, and needed help sighting it in.
well done!
Lol Ula bangs the 🔺️ in 1 shot. You guys are the best.
Thank you for this very useful video!
Ulla's a darn good shot too!
Way totally awesome! Wonderful content.
I love your videos I’m an ak owner and mine has a red dot sight too !
FRIDAY AKOU VIDEO! HELL YEAH!
Nice shot Ula!
Thanks for another great video 👍🙂
Rob love the videos...I just got my AK hoodie ...its badass
Thanks
I like these videos a lot! I love the range you're on!
The 25 yd Zero is a winner for 7.62 X 39.
I’ve used it for a few years. It’s good to 300 yds as you demonstrated, I just need to remember the holds at 250/300.
@Mike Bastiat Yes. At 200 I'm 2.4" High, 250 is 2.75" Low, 300 is 11.3" Low.
Olga got center mass loved it
Love your work man
Thanks as always, Rob!
Love this channel
Awesome video, thanks, and God bless.
I like this dude, great videos brother.
Great information. Thanks Rob.
Dope!!! I love your ak videos
I love that Ola can shoot too!
She rocked that center triangle at 300y !! Awesome. You did good too. lol
It’s funny how we show combat effectiveness with poverty tier Steel cased ammo. AR guys are picking through a catalog of cases to find their 1 moa round their rifle likes lol.
Merely getting hits does not always translate to combat effectiveness. In terms of terminal performance, bimetal bullets have been shown in numerous tests to be underwhelming. That's the real downside of the cheap steel ammo.
@@tackytrooper yeah we are all well aware that shit is underpowered. Still not standing in front of it.
@@gregb1469 It's not that I wouldn't use it for combat, just that it's the last thing I'd reach for if I was still alive after expending all M193.
the funny thing is when looking at magazine tests of various akm's they typically run 3 different ammo brands to showcase the rifle, 2 gucci tier rounds and wolf, and its fun to watch the wolf almost always post a inch or so better than the gucci stuff
@@wdixon27 lol wolf usually groups tighter at 100yards than match shit. Which is weird because the velocity bullet to bullet is usually much lower than advertised and like 70fps difference
Thanks rob for all you do for us ak guys
Great job Ula! Maybe you two should switch camera & shooter roles. ;-) (Sorry Rob. LOL) Love this channel, keep up the great work!!!
Ula is a Unit. Great job Ski Family 💪🏻👊🏻
got my Zenitco parts and got my red dot finally on my Saiga-103 and I zeroed my rifle at this range today ,works like a charm
This is turning in to my favorite channel and I shoot AR's.
Getting ready to go pick up my first AK , like I need another rabbit hole to go down I have a feeling its going to get expensive.
Oh man o man! I just ordered a couple of these Rs regulate PA combos from your store! Thanks for the quick shipping, haven’t had a chance to sight in yet.
EXCELLENT TUTORIAL AKOU ........ Timely Advice for the Future !!!
❤️🇺🇸✨🙏🏻💫
outstanding!!
AMAZING VIDEO! THANKS A LOT!
Hell yeah brother. Excellent video as always. No bullshit just facts
Exxon video you guys rock keep up the good work love your channel
Thank you. Just what I needed. Wonder if you could have a guest on to discuss changes in eyesight after cataract surgery and how that might affect targeting and red dot, scope setup. I would think other "old timers" might have similar issues and it's rarely discussed online.
After dual cataract surgery my parallax changed no longer allowing me to sight with both eyes. My solution was a Primary Arms 2.5 ACSS w/diopter prism red dot for use on my Kalashnikov-USA Vitayz, Romanian AK-47, and test on my Kalashnikov Saiga-12. It works perfectly for me, allowing targeting with both eyes open and stay cognizant of my surroundings. Because it has an incredible eye relief, I can use it both as a 1x and 2.5x interchangeably with no adjustments. A diopter is a must and the ACCS adds to accuracy at almost every distance and weather condition.
Helpful resources to improve targeting: 1) The US Army "Rifle and Carbine" technical manual, May 2016, doc TC 3-22.9 [+ w/lots of info for CQB and competition], and 2) US Army Reserve Marksman, "Improving Rifle Zero Ranges". FY 2019 2nd Quarter. Search for both as PDF files. They are easily found and I was afraid TH-cam would delete the actual links.
Upgraded platform is sweet!
always a hoot to see Rob shoot
he's a sniper so we know he pushes the ak to its mechanical accuracy
i enjoy the channel
Perfectly timed video just as i’m about to sight in my red dot on my Midwest Industries mount 🤙🏼
Great video!
Great tutorial!!
Thanks again for another great video and detailed explanation.