2019 ROAD GLIDE STAGE 1 VS 2020 ROAD GLIDE STAGE 2! *DRAG RACE*
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ส.ค. 2024
- I lined up my 2019 Harley Davidson Road Glide Special with a stage 1 kit against a 2020 Road Glide Special with a stage 2 kit. Both bikes have the 114ci motor. See how much faster the 2020 is with a cam over my stage 1! Make sure you browse the channel and subscribe! As always, thanks for watching!
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Link to S&S 475 C Cam Install:
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Good vid but honestly to me the better part of this video is a family riding together and enjoying the ride
Agreed!
Totally!
Father and son riding? Can't beat that man. I can't wait til my son can ride with me.
Yep!!! Thats a total winner!!
Honestly I've seen a couple of your videos but this is the one that made me subscribe. Just because of the father and son thang man. Great video.
Man, AWESOME video!! So cool to see this real world application of the cam's improved power!
I think he got you by more than a few bikes!! Cam is a grunt!!!!🏁
Just enjoy knowing the roads your on also. Michigan here as well
Thanks for doing this video, I’ve ordered my S&S 475c cam kit for my FXLRS and now I’m even more stoked to get it installed. Ride safe guys!
Great video, enjoyed it for sure! nice breakdown of who was in each gear 👍, badass!
Just picked up my 2019 Road Glide Special yesterday after the 131 cubic inch upgrade. I have Vance & Hines Slip ons (their new Torquer 450 exhaust made for the M-8). Amazing power and sound.
Great vid for sure. Shows where that cam shines in the higher rpms
Excellent video I was looking for a comparison video of stage 1 v 2 and your video was perfect in SHOWING the performance difference! Subscribed!
Thank You!
That's the one advantage of being in florida , other then rain nothing stops us from riding. Love the bar&shield on the gas tank.
This is good stuff brother, my bike is what my dad wanted 😎🤙💪🧔keep up the awesome job guys!
Thanks for making this helpful comparison video 🇺🇸👍🏻
Who stole Pops 4th gear! Lol. Great video guys. I love my "stage 2" glide. Dam think woke up with some basic bolt ons
Beautiful machines . Here in Colorado we're having winter days
Glad I just ordered a cam that stage two drags like a train 🔥🔥 that’s cool you and your dad ride together. Trying to get my dad on the Harley train with me next
Had the same cam in mime and extensively Dyno tested it. Results were that it actually loses a bit of power down low but mid-top end gains ranged from 20 to 26% better than the stock cam. The low end loss is normal for a longer duration cam but what impressed me was it’s not as much of a loss as it should’ve been. Road Glide... the only Harley to buy IMO
Always enjoy your vids
Ran across your video love the video of you and your family I’m a new rider 59 years old first Harley Davidson trike would love to see a video of you upshifting and downshifting still learning have a good weekend
You sold me on my next mod!! Thanks bro!
Awesome video man, Good to see a family out riding together and enjoying two wheel life. Just curious why you chose the Moto Jackpot instead of D&D like your dad.? I done a lot of research before I chose my exhaust and from research, D&D had much better results on TQ and HP.. again awesome video man. 👍🏻👍🏻
I think it's awesome for you all to have Road Glides and ride together!
Shark nose rocks!!
You better call Allstate and get that Gap insurance they're always trying to sell. Great vid loved it
I have my cam chest sitting on the garage floor right now, installing the Red Shift 468 cam, Fueling cam plate, oil pump and lifters. I get most of the stuff from Fuel Moto as well along with the tune for my Power Vision.
Nice!
Awesome cam and Zipper’s support is second to none! Enjoy 👍
We usually always do roll-ons from the same gear. Since he didn’t change final drive its a better way to look at acceleration. Really enjoyed watching the videos. If you’re thinking about a cam upgrade check out Woods 22X or Redshift 468/472. You will get amazing sound and wide torque band with the pipe you have already.
RedShift 472 & S&S 475 (he installed) are almost identical cams.
That #1 on the tank is SICK
The gearing didn’t change with the cam just where it makes power, you really need to do it in the same gear, that would be apples to apples. You should check out the Cycle-Rama 480 cam, I have it in my 17 RGS 107 it’s a beast!
yes - i noticed that statement and you are corrrect.
got that low RPM dip when he takes off, but it comes on strong as the R's build. Nice comparison!
Awesome! and I love dad's Converse!! He smoked you dude:)
Just got stage 2 done to my ultra. Don't really race around much so I got the torque cam. Like the extra power bike finally feels like it runs right. I'm sure the S&S parts had a lot to do with that. Smooth baby
You guys are awesome family!
Nice bars on the black one
Awesome bikes! Nobody looses in your family.
Very nice bikes bro and a nice video! If you were in Kansas City, you could race my Challeger😂 Sorry, I couldn’t help myself!
Your DAD kicked your butt 😂 JAJAJAJA and the question is what are you going to do?
I'm going to have to spend some money now haha
Better be putting a stage 2 In on yours too!
Great videos and comparison.... About to pick up my 2020 RGS like your dad's but in blue! Curious what full face helmet are you wearing?
Thanks. I am wearing a Blitwell Lane Splitter..
My 107 with the S&S cam kit walks away from a stock 114-117. Great video!
Nice, thanks for the info and the vid. I have only had my 2020 RGS for three weeks now. How does your Father like the KST bars? Thanks, Jim.
He loves the KST bars!
Your dad's bike is limited edition paint. We have one here in Missoula sitting at Grizzly HD.
The cam (timing) is where all the power comes from, and of course a tune to dump the fuel when it's demanded. Next time do the same gears, that would be a better comparison! Thanks Bud!
I purchased back in June of 2022 a brand new Street Glide Special 114.
8 months later, I am considering a 131 Stage IV kit instead of a 135 Crate Engine replacement.
Is a 131 now cheaper since the 135 is being produced?
The wait for my area in Pennsylvania for a 135 is likely up to December or later when it is officially released for here compared to scheduling a 131 kit upgrade next week.
I am just trying to weigh my options. Looking for any comments, thoughts, or suggestions for this upgrade.
Stage I, II,III, IV, or wait for the 135 crate engine?
Damn fine video
Your bikes are so sick
Thank you!
Nice great vid, nice bikes , i like the red bike , what clutch did you go with
Stock Clutch Still..
Brother great vid, question what type of phone mount is that on your tank? thanks 👊🏾
Thanks, its actually something I mocked up from a go pro mount. Home made lol
Dam pops put it on you lol.
Beautiful bikes! I'm over in WI riding a Buell :) Love V-twins. But man...that helmet on your dad...why even bother? lol That thing ain't gonna do squat man....May as well just feel the breeze at that point.
great video man.. I have a question did you guys do any tuning thru the ecu or all you did was add the stage 2 cam kit and that was it?
We tuned it with the dyno jet power vision.. Tune from Fuel Moto..
Great video bud! Watch the install as well! Quick question so you don’t have to get the bike tuned professionally?
No, you can email Fuel Moto and let them know what set up you are running and they already have a dyno tuned map they will send you so you don't have to run your bike on the dyno.
@@DOOWORKPRODUCTIONS thanks bud
I got the exact same bike as your dads with a stage 1 & Factory 47 12” bars . You inspired me to do a stage 2 or just go 131 Kit
why not a s&s 128
nice videos , good work on the bikes.
what part of Michigan are you in??
Thanks! South East Mi..
right on man , me to . I just picked up a 2020 RGS myself .
How did the cam affect the bottom end power?
Why did you choose that tuner over the thundermax tuner ?
Cool
Love the s&s cam in my fatboy. But I'm buying that road glide next week in billiard blue. Love it. You guys have 2-1 exhaust. Did you get you dummy pipe from the same manufacturer? I'm not sure what they are called...
Yes.
What floorboards and brake pedal do you have? Looking awesome
FLO Motorsports!
Is it nessasary to remove the cats when installing a cam?
What a difference 🚀 Out of curiosity. Did you consider Zippers Red Shift 468, before you choose the S&S ?
And yeah. You are blessed been able to ride and have a good time, with you mom and dad ❤️
No, because I visited the S&S booth down in Daytona this year, and was sold as soon as I heard that 475C cam. I also watched some comparison videos and noticed that the S&S kit makes good power gains compared to the other kits.. So far I am very happy with the 475 cam. No issues at all..
S&S 475 & Zippers RedShift 472 are almost identical cams.
(The 468 has more bottom end than & the 472 , but falls off sooner ).
Now, if you want power from start to redline just keep that 475 cam and pop on a 128 cylinder kit...lol.
[Insert I almost had you quote]
Awesome vid. What was the total cost of the stage 2 upgrade?
If you install it yourself you can get everything for just under $2,000..
That was us in that grey Subaru that almost got into a car accident 🙇♂️😅
Does your AC hit / get in the way of your leg when you are squeezing the tank? What cover is it? Great looking bike!
No it doesn't.. Thank You!
Harley stage 2 in mine, with the torque cam.
😍 🔊🔊
Does the 2020 have rdrs ? If so how was the tuning from pv? No issues in torque on the rdrs? I have a 20 road king 107 just did a stage 2 but after warranty might switch to pv
Fuel Moto has a tune for the RDRS bikes. When we flash it with the PV, the RDRS still works on the bike..
What’s the point of doing roll ons in different gears. Especially since the 475 isn’t really a low end grunt cam.
To see how these two bikes stack up against each other...
DOOWORK PRODUCTIONS if you wanted to see how they stack up against each other both bikes should of pulled in the same gear. One in 1st and one in 2nd will give you a less accurate representation of the change.
@@rageglide Exactly. Not a true roll on at all. Do them again, both in the same gear.
They should leave the factory like your Pop’s bike, but we have a nanny state Govt. !
We need to hook up next summer and do a ride. Are u planning on going to blessing of the bikes in Hell Michigan
Not sure yet..
I need a cam!!!!🤗
I live near you and thought id check you out 😊
How did you tune the ‘20 as no one I am aware of makes a tuner for the ‘20-‘21 ? It’s a fast bike and stock the 114 can move.
You could always tune the 2020 model year bikes. Harley made the change to a new connector for 2021, so they weren't able to be tuned until late 2021. However, you are now able to tune a 2021 model year bike.
Can you link where you got those stickers on the bags?
Brian at Choice Cycle on Instagram!
Where is your vest from man? Been trying to find one for so long
I got it from a vendor down in Daytona!
what bars do you have on the 2020 road glide?
KST Vanguard Collection Spearheads 12"
Terrific... love the bars on the 2020; what are they?
KST bars
@@DOOWORKPRODUCTIONS I see... I love the angle; are they a bagger bar or just rotated to bring the grips so low?
@@shawncafferata1754 They are for a Road Glide Yes, however they are fully adjustable, which makes it nice.
@@DOOWORKPRODUCTIONS Aha! They are the Spearheads, right? And what size? (really appreciate you taking time out to respond)...
@@shawncafferata1754 Yes, and 12"..
A better comparison would be for you guys to be in the same gear and roll on from the same RPM. The gear ratios on your bikes are the same. The difference is in the power delivery.
What floorboards you have on the black bike?
FLO Motorsports
Can you hit me up with info on your dads solo seat. Thxs FYI because of you I purchase the lucky Dave seat awesome. Also I got the tank stickers for my Side bag looks great thanks. Keep up with the bike videos. I have the same bike as yours and I’m also looking to put in the second stage peace.
Dads seat is a CVO seat from Harley..
What type of handle bars your Dad have
12" KST Spearheads I have a set for sale if you are interested!
Oh Oh I see a 131 in your future
Hey brother where did you get the harley decals on your bags?
Baum Customs
@@DOOWORKPRODUCTIONS thanks brother, appreciate it 👊
What bars do your dad have ?
Hey man what’s your floorboards and shifters? Love the look
FLO Motorsports
Does your dads bike have RDRS and if so how is your tuner overriding it? I'm being told that they are having problems tuning bikes with RDRS.
Yes it does.. And I'm not sure how they are over riding it, but it still works correctly after the tune. Fuel Moto is a great company to work with, they know what they're doing!
DOOWORK PRODUCTIONS I’ll have to look into that. A local performance shop is telling me that the tts mastertune is the only tuner that they can get to work properly with rdrs as far as it not limiting your torque.
@@1962egl Fuel Moto has to know if you have RDRS and they tune for it. They do have the ability to tune with RDRS. That is the first thing that I checked when I put the tune on. I made sure everything (RDRS) worked with hill hold and rain traction control. The tune that comes from Fuel Moto says RDRS right on it.
Mike LaBarge good to here. I’ve been reluctant to do the stage 2 in my bike because of what I have been told. I have a 2020 road glide special in zephyr blue with rdrs myself. I was thinking I might have made a mistake getting rdrs. I will go with it now. I will go with the woods 22x-e cam though. Thanks
Any chance y'all put the bike on a Dyno to get numbers on it? Everyone I talk to is telling me the only tuner that they are having any kind of luck with on the RDRS is the tts master tune. And that has its limits. They all telling me the power vision will limit how much performance you can get out of the bike .
Wow
I had dealer screaming eagle stage 2 and went to s&s 475
To be honest the s&s is faster and takes off by alot after mid range but you only notice this full throttle on the freeway.. majority of street riding the s/e stage 2 was probably better for the bottom end and if i could go back i wouldve left the s/e stage 2
The s&s 475 is laggy off lights and requires more revs if not blipping before you take off where as the s/e is effortless and doesnt bog out off the start like the s&s does (maybe the 465 would be better for what i like)
Also when cruising i find i now need to be down one gear with the s&s in 5th or 4th instead of 6th on the freeway to actually enjoy its pull
The only thing i truly love about the 475 is the sound but for street rideability s/e wins
Bike is well tuned with exhaust/cleaner
Just my 2 cents
Next bike will be sticking to a real down low cam most likely s/e
Highly reccomend going staight to the dealer stage 2 though and skipping stage 1, nice difference off the start and the way the bike should come from factory
Love the bikes but the all black looks supreme
Pops is also dragging a trailer compared to you so it is that much more impressive.
Is this on Telegraph rd?
Nope.
Cams do not change gear ratio.....
what mount are you using for your cell phone
Mine is a Ciro 3D but i think you are asking what he is using in the middle of his dash right?
I am using a custom made phone holder.. I got the mount itself off Amazon, then I screwed it to a GoPro mount and mounted it to my tank..
Gapped!
For a real comparison should be in the same gear for the roll ons. Gear ratio does not change with a cam install.
Look at the Jim’s vtwin maxcell 821B cam. I guarantee you’ll shit on him lol
Also, your Dad looks to be 60-80lbs heavier than you.... With its "Stage1"(Lloydz high-flow AF, Cobra Tri-Oval mufflers and a Power Commander V) my 106ci Victory dyno'd at 91hp \ 101tq. I ran like this for a season then installed Lloydz VM1 cams and the bike gained 21hp and 12 tq... to dyno at 112hp \ 113tq👍 So yea, cams made a huge difference in actual performance and feel, not to mention how much better the thing sounds :)
Also, I've had this "Stage 2" for 4 years now, I hammer on this bike, its approaching 70k miles and I've had ZERO issues from these upgrades, the engine is solid as ever.
Where in Michigan? Me Kazoo
Get a mustang for the channel
Hear ration didn’t change.
Pop smoked ya brother!,,,lol
More top end; ok ok