Pastor Tony Evans Confesses Sin, Steps Away, But Leaves Questions (Lessons for Pastors)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- On Sunday, June 9, 2024, Dr. Tony Evans, pastor of Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship in Dallas, Texas announced that he is stepping away from pastoral duties due to a sin he committed "a number of years ago."
In this video, I break down what we know right now and offer some lessons we can take from this as followers of Jesus and as pastors/church leaders.
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My family and I are distant followers of Tony Evans. My son has been following Tony Evans since he was a teenager to this day. We as a family will continue to pray for Tony Evans as he has minister to us in many ways in difficult times in our lives. We have to remember that we are all sinners and fall short of grace every day, but it’s only to God‘s grace that we are forgiven. It is not our business the sin that he committed because we send every day in many forms. That is between him and Jesus as it is between us and our Lord, we must continue to pray for restoration.
Maybe your son and y’all should decide to follow JESUS
@@Asereht-tq2pn It is obvious they follow Jesus, for goodness sake. They follow TE in that they listen to his sermons.
Ima 68 yr old white male that loves me some Tony Evans. Praying for Tony that God redeems him. Much love to Tony. Its been a rough last 3-4 yrs losing many family members.
Nowhere, nowhere, nowhere are we told to pray for a walk to paper store to the flock goes exposing walls in case you haven’t noticed get a brain
@@deirdrehelms5958 huh?
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You don't make sense!!! 😔 @@deirdrehelms5958
I just want to encourage you sir. I have been blessed by your mistry over the years. I'll never forget a sermon you preached about a football team, and you worked that thing over and bled right into the emptiness for some of us because we didn't ask God for what was needed... I played that sermon over the phone to several of my friends, some of whom lived in a different city and or state... One of um began to cry out in tongues...as I held the phone up to my tv for her to hear it... The others were loving it too. I longed to be able to speak to you so I could ask you to send me that sermon... I even got a chance to speak to your wife before her passing... I was trying to see if I could get a copy of that sermon.. I don't remember the title, but I remember it started off with a football team....it was amazing...
and missing out of things ... I'd love to get that one. (PLEASE..) 🙏🤗
I'm praying for you. KEEP your head up... (Because 👉 'ALL HAVE COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD...) GOD BLESS... 💖💔💖
I commend Tony for humbling himself & gracefully wanting healing & recover from his sin. So many leaders arent doing this at all ever. We are not to judge, that is God's place. I am praying for Tony Evans & his family. Lord please heal him & help him to recover. Much love to Tony & his family. 🙏🏽♥️
Amen
#truthofgod
Amen! 🙏
Pastors are Shepherds and held to higher acountanility. There are consequences to our actions. Yes we forgive and when there is repentance Jesus forgives. This does not mean they can return to 5 fold ministry. It is the world we do not judge. As far as believers we know them by their fruit. Distrust and kissing respect
Is one of the consequences. pastors are to Sheperd the sheep not be dishonest and deceiving. Double accountability. Trust is not restored immediately it will take time
Amen
All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God...
He that is without sin cast the first stone...
We all need the grace and mercy of the LORD!
Be blessed, Pastor Evans
We are praying for you!
I am so grateful that God is still on the throne, and He is the judge, not any of us. I am grateful to see positive comments here. On the post for Robert Morris seems all negative. Everyone needs prayer not judgement.
Let's keep our eyes on Jesus! The author and finisher of our FAITH! AMEN Hallelujah!
Amen!
I’m keeping pasteur Evans in my prayers. We don’t need to know what he did that between God and him . I love pastor Tony may the peace of God be with him 🙏🏽
Tony Evans is one of my favorite preachers, and he has definitely been chosen no matter if he failed short of he's definitely anointed. We all fall short every day and die daily
Pastor Evans, I commend you. We will be praying for you. You are a true example of being a man with a repenting heart. Hopefully, other leaders will follow your footsteps. Love you and praying for you.
Amen i feel the same
@@rhondaanderson1627Ditto
Tony Evans is an amazing pastor and he absolutely will be in my prayers and I will continue listening to his sermons .We all sin and fall short.He confessed this to God ,the elders,and his wife .It is none of yours or my business what he did .Do you have things you don’t want put on the big screen ? I guarantee you that you do .Be very careful treading on this water sir .Thank you pastor Evans for your sermons and walk with Christ over many years and for keeping your faith through all that you’ve been through .You will be in my prayers !!!
I think it's good that Tony is keeping this between himself and God. Otherwise, the Church would become the judge. Many may say, this is no big deal, but God's standard is the real deal for each individual.
I respect his integrity and I know how he feels to live with conviction. Whatever it is will come to light. I don't need to be nosey in his business with God. He stepped down.
That's right..This should not turn into gossip..We should keep him in prayer...and consider whatever he did we are all capable of the same thing..
Amen and Amen
"He that is without sin cast the first stone"
Jesus your work, your will, your way every day I pray.
You're using that out of context. Don't misuse Jesus's words like that. This was due to adultery & them not bringing both parties. This is about a pastor that is in a high position as well as made millions doing so. The standard is higher.
Wrong context! JESUS was talking about real stones at that time is what they would do.
Jesus is the Judge.
@@rohipsalm2370 Jesus is the Judge
My wife and I will keep Pastor Evan and his family in prayer. We all are sinners in need of Jesus. We all must trust in God. Personally we don’t want to know why Pastor Evan’s sin was and why he is now confessing he had sin. As long as Pastor Evan’s has a personal relationship with Jesus and has repented his sin and is trusting in God to help fully restore him. Remember King David that he went a long time after he committed adultery with Bathsheba. King David would have gone longer in not confessing his sin but instead it took God to send the Prophet Nathan to confront David of his adultery and murder. We cannot wonder why someone goes years of unconfessed sin. It is between God and the sinner. We as Christians need to pray for the pastor and his family and give them our support.
David didn't go very long before he was confronted with his sin. It was less than 9 months, and he immediately repented and was utterly remorseful and grieved that he had sinned against God. We don't see that kind of humility in this world today, and we need to, especially from our pastors and teachers. We must wonder why a pastor goes years with unconfessed sin, because we must be able to trust that they are righteous and true before God. Otherwise, they are not worthy to be teachers of the Word, leaders entrusted with guiding God's precious people. If it is a big enough sin that he stepped down from his position, it isn't just "between him and Jesus" as I'm seeing all over the comments. If he confessed because he was "caught", that is important, especially for his congregation, to know. I agree with one statement that you made: we need to pray for Tony Evans and his family. He will deserve our support when he truly repents to his congregation in honest humility.
do you pray for " sinner" Catholic priests too ? bet not
@@wbl5649Sir, I pray for everyone. And I will lift you up to God as well. We all should pray for everyone even our enemies. God bless you sir.
Agree we should be praying for him and his family. However by not telling the whole story it is now open to speculation which does nothing for his reputation,his family and certainly not the church. Now w Robert Morris' little scandal and the fact Morris tried to white wash the fact he was SA a child of 12 is not a young lady ( suggesting she was legal) Tony is even more open to nonsense. Fact is we were all sinners but once you come into Jesus you have the Holy Spirit to guild and rebuke you. If you choose to be a teacher you have a higher standard. In the past 100 years the church has taken focus off Jesus and accommodated the world. Remember Jim Baker? Worshiping sex is easy to fallen people but we are empowered to not follow the world. My heart is broken for the families first then the foolish men but mostly for the fact human choices are detracting from the Savior. Meanwhile a lost broken world watches and the fact is we all humans need the Lord as he is not as these liars in the pulpit represent him. Morris should be in jail. Evans should have stepped down and left the pulpit and Jim Baker should be selling insurance not playing preacher.
@@gramajan4 Please understand that our GREAT god sees the heart of each of us. Every one of us. Should we know each of your worst moments? Honestly, it is your comment that suggests a lack of humility. So, will you be the one to cast that very specific first stone?
I worship at OCBF and we are a healthy church. Our focus is on God and he is the object of our worship not Pastor! We stand with him and we love him and are covering him in prayer daily!
Definitely Praying for Dr. TONY EVANS, the Elders and the congregation as well. GOD'S MERCIES ARE NEW EVERY MORNING..When we sincerely REPENT!!!!@
It is not time now to ask questions, but to pray for him and his family and the church family.
When is the right time, if I may ask you? Why shouldn't people of God ask questions? And yet you expect them to pray for the sinner out of ignorance without knowing their sin? What is even wrong in asking questions when there are questionable conducts? People need to know the truth and the CINFESSION of the believer who sinned, due to our unavoidable corruptible human nature, must be complete and honest. In fact, the earlier the truth is told in earnest, the better for the Holy Church of Christ and for the restoration of the believers' faith.
People understand this, remember David was a man after God’s own ❤️ heart! Our heart is deceitful and desperately wicked who can know it! Whatever happens in life is meant to happen. There’s a purpose behind the pain. God is still in control of Pastor Tony’s life. God will use this for pastor Tony’s good and for the glory of God! Pastor Evan’s shall have a greater testimony! Everything has already been planned way back in Kadem Eternity. Whatever happened is in all of us no one is exempt. God must bring it up & out because if God don’t bring it up & out, it will follow us to the judgement seat and be a witness against us. Pastor Tony is still a man after God’s own heart ❤️ and I still respect this man of God!! We better be careful what we speak about this man of God because God has a wheel & everything we speak comes back into our bosom.
@@bessiestephens5346 so true
I think you don't need to know, sin is sin, and whatever it is, we just need to pray that he be restored. Pray one for another.
I would say that all sin, generally speaking, is evil. But not all sin is the same. I hear a lot of people use the phrase, "sin is sin." I think that statement can be misleading. Because although sin is evil, not all sin is equal. There are some sins that are more evil than others. And there are some less evil. Now depending on the type of sin that occurs, the church's duty is to properly and biblically handle the matter. For the sake of the church as a whole. And to the glory and honor of God.
Totally disagree.
If he had repented he is already restored
As long as we are in these human bodies we all sin and fall short of the glory God. So why is Pastor Evans different from all humans? I'll wait
We as Christians need to pray for Pastor Tony Evans. Romans 3:23: For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Galatians 6:1: Dear brothers and sisters, if another believer is overcome by some sin, you who are godly should gently and humbly help that person back onto the right path. And be careful not to fall into the same temptation yourself.
I’m glad he has a conscience. Nobody is perfect. It takes a good😊
man to admit that he made a mistake. Nobody’s perfect I applaud him for letting his conscience guide him
@@lwolfmatt What does Genesis 6:9 KJVsay was the character of Noah up to that point You gave a cliche , rather than a BIBLE verse
Lol bible excuses for his lies and secrets 😂
But he’s a pastor. Higher standards.
Let me hope this guy never sins or has never sinned, because pastor Morris sin is known but the way he tossed him like we wasn't considering his repentance, is so telling I really people sins should be put out to none forgiving Christians that put the church down, if he killed many people or went to prosperity preaching, no brother, you are literally playing the judgment card and that it's funny you can't see it, you kind of seem like a very controlling self righteous person who in his book even is so perfect, but what does Hebrews 4 :16 say ?!
I have loved his understanding of the scriptures, and ability to teach in a meaningful way.
Too bad he did not apply scripture to his life!
@@Asereht-tq2pn he IS applying scripture to his life
Surely you do not think Tony remembered an old sin, called the elders, confessed and voluntarily stepped down. He is being blackmailed. The person doing so- went to the church. The scripture he knows and should follow is knowing we all fall short of the glory of GOD.
If any one of you is without sin, let you be the first to cast the stone! We all fall short. There is not one perfect one but only Christ. We are to look to the Lord and not look to man. God bless him and heal him.
Only part of what you are saying is true , see Job 1:1 .
so if he molested ur daughter...ohh..lets just carry on...all sin is the same...smh
We love you and are praying For Pastor Tony Evans and his family 🎉🙏🙏🙏
Amen
Amen
Brothers and sisters, NOT MY BUSINESS….. whatever he did, it’s between him and Jesus….we all fall short to the Grace of the Lord…. You are in my prayers, Brother .
Agreed. Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling
We all have fallen short and done things that don't align with God's will. The problem many of us have is not repenting and hiding it as if God is not watching. I hope he finds healing and restoration.
I don’t understand why would someone make videos like these. I know so much bad things of people and I would never make videos of them. This is no mean
@@one4truth236He doesn’t need to tell the world either. He can repent in his own house with God and not with millions of people
Well said
Pastor Evans, we love you, and prayers for your spiritual restoration. When a man fall, we never look down at them unless we picking him up. Get right with God, and get back in your place. I still uphold you as a man of the cloth. Continued love for your family. God got this!❤
I am so proud of Pastor Tony Evans confess to his sin even though we don't know what he has sin. It's between him and God. Just pray for him.
Thank you for this video. I listened to entire video. Well done! Excellent. I agree that telling the truth is required for repentance. Otherwise, we are protecting ourselves and our churches at the expense of those sinned against. I agree that if pastors truly repent in the way you described and the Bible commands, forgiveness should be given and trust can be restored in time, but it takes time like you said. And the “process” should be explained. I agree. Thank you for your own humility and understanding that we all fall and are sinners in need of God’s grace. Pastors carry a double responsibility (not double perfection) required of them to be honest and humble. Yet, pastors (and church leaders supporting the pastor) have the greatest temptation to hide and cover up sin. It appears that Tony Evans is being contrite to step down, but I agree, he has not confessed his sin. That is required. I will pray for him and other pastors as you asked. I’m the daughter and granddaughter and sister to pastors. God bless you and your ministry here!
I love Tony Evans & always will- I go to Fellowship Dallas. We are not perfect none of us. I’m praying for him, he’s a powerful man of God. It’s very sad. I think he needs to say what it was. Only makes it worse when everyone wonders. Repenting & forgiven. 🥰 ❤ He without sin cast the first stone.
Only GOD IS POWERFUL! He is just a man like the rest of us who GOD can use for his Glory!
Praying always for those in Authority over us as well as for the Church!
That's true
Clean him up, Lord Jesus and restore him in his relationship with You. Help us all to have clean hands and a pure heart. I wish Pastor Tony Evans the best as he spends time with the Lord Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit, our Comforter. Tie a knot Pastor Tony, hang on tight to Christ, don't worry about your critics, and enjoy the journey that Holy Spirit is about to take you on as you obey and surrender. Whether you stepped down by force or choice, thank you for almost 50 years of great, public service. Pastor, the Body of Christ is hurting and the world is looking at how you come out of "surgery". So, rest well in Christ as you fight the good fight of faith. Your labor has not and will not be in vain. Be encouraged. Show the Body of Christ what public repentance and submission to Christ should look like. I know it's a lot to ask. In Christ, your sister in the faith
Amen!! People too nosey and want to know the juice. We should pray and leave it to God. The bible has all of the answers. David was restored but there were consequences. God is in the business of restoration if there is sincerity.
I agree and join you in Prayer for Tony Evens, his church or the ones he was sheparding and his family.
Amen
Amen & well said ❤
Just as David said in Ps. 51: 4
Against Thee, Thee only, have i sinned, and done what is evil in Thy sight.....
Dr. Tony Evans owes NO man NOTHING but to LOVE them in the Love Of Christ JESUS.
I am praying for my BIG Brother in CHRIST JESUS and that whole FAMILY. I respect you even more for coming forward. Who am i to wanna know???? I dare not wanna know cause I dont want to say my deepest darkest secrets I've confessed! So! I give you Pastor that same consideration. I gave mind to GOD in Jesus name and HE CAST IT AS FARRRRR AS THE EAST IS FROM THE WEST NEVERRRR TO BE REMEMBERED AGAIN. 😔 I gove you that same respect. ❤ U....
Actually he does. As a pastor/elder he is responsible and owes people who followed him full explanation.
Right
@@chefvindurkee9805
Ok well I'm waiting for your explanation as well!!!! and everyone else's then!!!
I'll be looking for your grocery list of sins you confess to be posted soon ok🥱🥱🥱🥱
@@chefvindurkee9805 We confess to God and not man. Our faults we can share with man but our sins are for God's ears only. We humans do not have the ability/power to restore or forgive sins. Our greatest help in this situation is praying.
All I know is to God be the glory for him comeing forth and repenting like the Bible says. All most believers want is gossip instead of praying like the Bible says. Remember none is exempt. Please read your word and obey what it says and move forward being about Gods work. We all need to look in the mirror and examine ourselves so we will not miss the mark. Jesus is very soon to come so make sure u are in right standing with the father. I love u pastor Tony, I admire u for being bold to do now what is right unto the Lord. He still loves u and so do I. Hallelujah Amen Min Walker ❤
Pastor, get healed and come on back, I miss you, we miss you. The world will never understand. You've done what's right.
Lord stay with Pastor Evans. Many still remain doing wrong and dont repent. Good bless for his repentance.
May God bring healing and restoration. He is humble and contrite. God Almighty help him.
i truly commend everyone of you, i make no provision for sin, Im grateful for the honesty that men can share in Christ Jesus. Remember At this time the days are evil and every thing that can be shaken will be shaken. God made the good and the evil. I said get Ready for greater works. Love The Body Of Christ
I believe that the "circle and depth of confession" should only be as large as the circle and depth of hurt. Anything beyond that just stimulates gossip.
And yet, the question is, who decides the circle and depth of hurt? A vague confession opens a story loop and doesn’t close it, which is merely a way of saying, it perpetuates and stimulates discussion that can lead to conjecture and gossip.
@@PreachandLeadAgree. And either way in this case, the hurt he is causing with this is far across the nation and wide.
Absolutely!
Confession between him and God that’s it
@@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044Well you forgot whoever was involved. Confess your faults one to another. If his Sin effected that person and they put each other in Sin IF. that is it then they have to confess to one another.
We don’t need to know what he did, my goodness just pray for him. We should always keep our Pastors in prayer ALWAYS!!!! 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Hard to help someone or intercede for them when we don't know why. Different sins require different solutions
What if he molested a child? Why shouldn't people in his church know?
Praying for healing we always love Dr Evans it's okay to be angry at God and have a need to just heal.God knows your heart in times weakness as it' is because of God's mercy that we live.
I agree with you brother it's nine of our business Dr Evans is a man of Integrity I prat fir his family and may God bless him he is causing an open door or more exposure He is blessing may guide lead and give him the restoration he needs Bless Dr Evans
Dr Tony Evans is a preacher but also human. He has the right to privacy. At least he has shown humility by stepping down rather than living with a secret sin. Let us show him love and support as he submits to the leadership of the church for counseling. Let's not judge him.
The devil is rejoicing but prayerfully he will be weeping even greater if Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship establishes a clear way of accountability, repentance, and restoration process that empowers us all to live in greater and freer in Christ Jesus. This isnt over and prayerfully there is a part 2, 3, 4, and 5 to this restoration process. I still say, oh wow, Dr. Evans' impact and life in this world is still great. Praying they don't botch it.
I am praying for Pastor Tony Evan’s .
They never said what kind of si. He committed.?
All Praise & Glory To God, Mr. Pastor Evans🙏🙌👑😇❤🙏!! May God Restore You To Your Rightful Place In Ministry...IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST!! Amen
Not being transparent for the sin that was committed is deception. Sin of omission. Of course, pray for him and show compassion. However, a leader is held to a higher standard. Stand on the word of God.
I m glad someone has brains here after reading so many passive comments.
Good afternoon ! God is good, I am praying for restoration in Jesus Name!
We all fall short to God glory, that’s the Holy Spirit who brought conviction on the Pastor. We need someone who has the Holy Spirit in them. God bless you Pastor, I love the Evans family ❤
Praying for Pastor Tony and his bloodline family as well as his church family. Let's keep our eyes on God. Pastor Tony is human and takes full responsibility for his sin whatever it is God is the greatest REDEEMER 🙌🙏❤
My prayers are with Dr. Tony Evans, Jesus is with you,keep God in everything, Dr. Tony Evans has spoken the word of God truly in a way that allows me to receive God's direction in my life in times when I deeply needed a word in my life,and that is every day! I pray God guidance in Dr. Evans' life to give him healing and peace, I will continue to listen each day to Dr. Evans teaching, God Bless Dr.Tony Evan's
People are just nosey! God bless Pastor Evans and his family.
No ,nosies..if you're a leader and you want others to trust you and tell u their sins...why can't he as being a leader show his human side...the Bible says we all have sin and fallen short of the glory of God!
This is the pastor teaching moment... His truth will set him and others free!
Through his testimony someone else might be saved!
Give them a chance.
WHAT EVER SIN HE COMMITED IS BETWEEN HIM AND GOD HE CAME FOWARD OWNED IT ONE HAS TO RESPECT HIM A GREAT BIBICAL TEACHER
Pastor Evans turned to God for forgiveness. That was the honorable thing to do.
That is great Pastor Evan, God is leading you into the path that he want you to follow. Amen
You are diectly on point and set apart from the world and Holy. Great discernment and critical thinking. Like minded on all critical points even before I viewed your admonishing of this man in senior pastor clothing. He's hiding, he's afraid, he's ashamed of himself which means he has not accepted nor trust the Father's freely given forgiveness at confession of missing the mark which is our Father's heart. There is no transparency therefore no accountability, this fake confession is cowardly lacking in the heavenly attribute of courage. So this serious fall was covered up for years from behind the pulpit, what changed?
Very well said! I agree with you. I just couldn't explain it like you did. It does not set right the way this has come out. I love Tony (and all of his kids), I have followed his teaching/preaching for over 30 years and have a lot of his books and cd teachings. This behavior has really shocked me, for I have always looked to him as a man of utmost integrity. His lack of transparency is very disappointing. My heart is very sad for him, his family, and the church. I pray for him and will continue. May he allow Jesus to truly set him free however the LORD leads. Amen.
Praying for you tony. God has not forgotten you my brother.
We don’t need an answer. He made his confession to the people above him to his family. We is the body of Christ. Don’t need to know it’s none of our business is between him, and God may the Lord restore him fully and may he comfort his family this is something that he could Carry and had to confess God bless him again he will be restored
I am praying for Tony Evans, his family, the congregation and Elders at OCBF. I daily pray for my own pastor. Thank you for the reminder to do so.
Because Dr Evans refers to his 48 years in ministry it seems doubly vague to refer to the time of his failing in such a vague manner.
Should this happen within my home church I would rely on my Elders to determine the process of restoration and I would not need to be privy to the nature of the sin, when it occurred, nor the restoration process. On the other hand, knowing those things might make my prayer for my pastor more effective.
Thank you for using John Piper’s explanation; I agree with him and I agree with what you said in this podcast.
God bless the church of Jesus Christ… we just need to pray. Forgive, love and trust again I Jesus name
Hey there. I like how you teach on leadership etc. Yes, me and my wife are leaders in the church. I think the Tony Evans move was actually a PR disaster. If I was in his circle, I would have advised him to take a break, retire, or step down and spill all the beans with detail. He was only caused negative speculation by not providing the details, as you also said.
God protect him and heal his heart. He is a good pastor.
God's grace is available and accessible to him too. May God bless this family. I pray Pst Jonathan and his other children cover their dad in prayer. The fathers day sermon by Jonathan was beautiful. Prayers for this family.
Much love.
He (Pastor Tony Evan) confess that he has sin, he also has stepped down! Over 40 years of service and being a powerful minister of the gospel; And a human being that is not perfect( like we all)! We are not and no way owed an explanation! I do not lose trust in a person because I don’t know details of what they have done and asked God’s forgiveness! Let us all be careful unless we all fall!! Maybe we all need to take notes and get our own lives and house and order! Thank God for His Great Grace and Mercy that we don’t get what we deserve!! Amen 🙏🏾❤️Blessings 💕💕💕
It hurts worse when a person in leadership commit sin and hides it and does not tell no one for a long time until they get caught. But it hurts less once someone sins in leadership and comes forward and admits their wrongdoing and steps down, it don’t hurtas bad. But we don’t matter, but God does and it hurts the Lord very much. But at the same time with true repentance, God is willing to forgive and forget. ❤
I believe it’s absolutely possible for Tony Evans to be restored to a leadership position. As long as it’s all in agreement, my example I use is the great Jimmy Swaggart he did it right he got on national TV in front of his congregation and repented to the congregation and to God And then he took some time off years and then he came back and look what he’s done his ministry is better than ever. His preaching is better than ever although the last few years he’s gotten too old but till about 2017 the message of the crosshas changed thousands of lives so God bless you, Tony Evans. I hope you come clean with everybody. You come highly recommended by the great doctor David Jeremiah, so to me that says a lot.
The simple thing is to pray for him as we would for any other sibling in Christ who has fallen short. God knows what the sin is and it will be God who will deal with him. I agree, the church he lead should know but for the rest of us; we need to just pray for him during this time. Shalom
People still want to know what was Apostle Paul's thorn in the flesh. I don't need to know. I have two thorns. I even spoke to the LORD about coming home. I will pray for Pastor Tony. Love his ministry. Sound doctrine.
Paul tells us in the Bible that the thorn in his flesh is a demon from Hell that was sent to buffet him.
Amen
But we do not know what that demon was, or how he was buffeted. We have no clue what this was in the practical. @@kellycoleman715
A thorn in the flesh is not sin.
I think a healthy form of love covering a multitude of sins, is to accept this resignation, and keep Pastor Tony in prayer.
My biggest prayer is that he stays connected to a body of believers, and has people journeying with him, as the Lord restores Him. Depending on the nature of what may have happened, if I were a member, I would personally encourage him to remain a member of the church like he said. If I were a member, or if this were to happen in my own church, I would be more then content with that. My focus, and I would encourage as many members as possible, we may have a wounded brother (or soldier) in the game, and forget about our natural desire to know juicy gossip, but prioritize a brother over all. I pray at least 1 trusted elder or friend knows the full details and extent of what happened for Tony's sake.
We all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God
For those of us who study and read the Bible, we KNOW that most of the men and women God used in mighty ways had committed sins, even King David, who God described as a man after his heart (1 Samuel 13:14) and whom God promised never to forsake, but to stand by and to be with him always (Psalm 89:20-37). So surely if God had compassion for and forgiveness toward Noah, Moses, King David, and so many other men and women who He used mightily in the Bible, God will also forgive and will continue to use a humble, repentant, and contrite Pastor Tony Evans.
While that is true. It's not a true comparison. This is Western culture with churches misusing & abusing 501c3s. They are setting their kingdoms up here & gaining great wealth.
We need the whole truth. He isn’t just a repentant christian, he is a mega pastor so protection of the flock is priority!
Don't come for me but this video is highlighting the standard for leadership. This is not about age, gender or race. As Dr. Tony Evans is a leader he does have responsibilities to his flock. Keep your eyes open and on Jesus. Yes we all fall short. Yes his sin is none of our business, however he is on a platform proclaiming Christ. C'mon y'all regardless of the person we have a responsibility
It is one thing for a pastor to immediately confess their sin, but they always confess YEARS after the sin and most often when called out by someone else.
I AM PRAYING FOR DR. EVANS , FAMILY AND THE CHURCH.
I agree with you 100%.You are telling the truth
I'm praying for this whole situation. I'm still praying for myself and all my sin. But I can't live without God's support and love. Plus I need to love and serve God. So I ask for your prayers for me too. Thanks in advance.
For me, I have to say I can totally see your point... but I also think it may be a bit off base. I agree that, particularly in recent years, we have seen pulpit "confessions" that have ultimately been revealed to be half hearted, manipulative, or just plain dishonest. And I have seen some of these people ask their members for exactly as you've said... a "specific forgiveness" with "a vague admittance of wrongdoing without any specific confession and repentance." And to be honest, initially, I had all the same questions as what you brought up... they are very valid.
However, here's where my view differs as it pertains to Dr. Evans. Based on the information provided in his statement, he never asked his members for forgiveness. It sounds to me that as a leader, he is simply being considerate enough to explain to them what is happening rather than just creating a sudden change with no explanation. But as a leader, he is also exercising wisdom and not providing more info than is necessary. It truth, he did tell them everything the "needed" to know. Everything elese, are details they would "want" to know so as to satisfy the curiosity or the emotional instability of their flesh. That is not his responsibility to soothe. It is ours. And as mature believers, who are on meat... not milk..., we must recognize that whatever the sin, that is between him and the Lord. He owes me no explanation. I don't need to know if was lying, cheating, or stealing. As his sister in Christ, all I need to know is that 1. my brother has fallen short... 2. that GOD is a faithful redeemer... 3. that if Dr. Evans is sincere and submits that sin to the Lord, that he WILL be restored, and 4. that everything else ain't none of my business. I have my OWN "field" to plow. Trying to figure things out with Dr Evans' issues is a strategic warfare tactic of the enemy to get me distracted with something that has nothing to do with me. As Jesus said to Peter, regardless of what happens with John, what business of that is yours? We have to learn to prayer for our neighbors, put our hand to the plow, and mind OUR (Kingdom) business (assignment). If that includes being in his inner circle, understanding details, and being an accountability partner then great. If that's not our assignment, then the details are none of our business and we should seek God and GODLY Christian therapists to help us reconcile the emotions that come along with what has happened.
But that's just "my" personal take (No shade on anyone else's. We feel what we feel ❤)
We have to remember that we can't look at passages isolated. All matter together. Jesus speaking mind your own business is to someone speculating WHO would do the sin. There is no speculation on who. It's exposed the issue is with Tony Evans. Jesus was clear on WHAT the sin was...betrayal. The Bible is clear on sins being exposed in many situations from OT to NT. It does mean something when priests and Levites do certain things not allowed for them, but ok with regular people. The specifics of what not to do is clear. And as guy spoke, certain sins were handled a specific way in the restoration process. And to be vague to say "I sinned so I'm stepping down" cannot be overlooked. We all have sinned and fallen short of His Glory. We all sin. But obviously something is different if that sin causes you to step down from your pastoral job if you are a sinful person anyway. Think about that. His sin caused him to lose his position....yet we're sinful people. Obviously it was egregious to him not being able to stay in that role anymore. It's just the truth. We gotta stop minimizing the importance of scripture and leadership roles.
I believe what he did should be between him and God not social media because all social media wants is another hot story of a another fallen pastor for clicks so ill continue to pray for this pastor 🙏
i agree with your whole statement.
Thank you for the detailed reply. Personal perspective-only follows (and no slight to your reply) - no one needs to ask forgiveness of anyone, but Jesus Christ. The second (personal comment) hits a little closer to home, but I honestly hope no one puts any human being between themselves and their relationship with Jesus Christ. That is a recipe for disaster...losing their faith. I'm overly skeptical of any teacher of the faith...even this channel took me a little time to warm up to. We are Benjamin, it's in our genes. 😂
Nanae
It seems to me that he's either threatened to be exposed by someone or is already exposed to the church, but either way people loves to hear other people's dirt so they can be judge jury and executioner. He's not obligated to broadcast the details of his sin to everyone, that is between him and Almighty God, cuz none of us can forgive sin and we are certainly not perfect either. That's why Jesus said " he who is without sin cast the first stone" It will come out in due time cuz there'll be someone who won't stop digging till they know what it is.
If he were not going to share his ‘old’ sin- he should have quietly walked away. He created this gossip storm!
He said if my people would turn from their wicked ways, he would heal the land.🙏🙏
I don't know pastor Evans,i am from Africa,i believe he's a good man, May God help him,i believe he has been though alot, ministry is very draining and frustrating sometimes,
My heart breaks to think of how all of this is affecting his family, his church and even himself,He just lost his wife a few years ago too, hurting people do hurtful things, We need to love people back to God!😢
I believe conviction is at hand, GOD sees and know all let's pray for all leader's, GOD is in control...
We are to pray for him. It is none of our business to know what sin he committed. God knows, and God will restore him if he is indeed repenting. Gossip and whispers between anyone outside of the inner circle are also sin. We are called to love and pray. God has this. The Holy Spirit is at work here ...trust Him with the outcome.
He is just a man like all of us
Remember David
Whatever he did is between him and GOD
I completely agree with your assessment that there needs to be explanation of what the sin was otherwise the congregation and people that follow a pastor that has fallen will tend to and never have a good way to intercede in prayer for them. I also agree with the issue of, it’s been several years since his fall. How does that leave his congregation feeling?
He is not GOD. Only a man in the flesh, GOD" is a forgiving GOD
I totally agree with your comments. A couple of years ago I began hearing Tony Evans when my daughter encouraged me to. I enjoyed his sermons but I was truly thrown back when he remarried so quickly after his wife’s passing and I began to watch less and less now this. I grew up in a Pentecostal home since I was born I am now 64 so this comes as no surprise when ministers preachers fall from God’s Grace. My anger is how they want to just hide and not come clean and admit their wrong doing . They want for their congregation the sinners to admit their sins why does it not apply to them? They hide behind the elders for several months then they come back as if nothing ever happened. It’s just not right and they are deceiving so many innocent Christian’s and they go and do same thing in their lives and think that that is what Christianity is.
God help us.
IMHO: We are all curious & speculative regarding his sin but I'm not sure we have a RIGHT to know. Exposure could involve publically exposing & humiliating an innocent person who was involved. Our curiosity is not a good enough reason if it hurts an innocent person. Additionally, once broken, earning trust again takes a very long time.
Yes, agree, pray, pray, and pray that they do this right and not just cover it up. People making all kinds of assumptions, but it isn't over yet. I dont wanna walk away saying he did it like everyone else though...hiding and acting like zero happened. I believe he has to speak more on it than what he has or church has. That will help us see he is different and serious about the glory of God
The truth shall set you free
Pastors and teachers must publicly grieve and express sorrow over their sin. Tony Evans has yet to do this. Evans youngest son Jonathan,
told the congregation that his father will return to the pulpit. He also said he only knows what everyone else knows.
Evans daughter, Priscilla, is married to KLove radio's board member, now board president Jerry Shirer.
The elder at Oak Cliff told the congregation "we declare & decree that ....." Oak Cliff promotes Joyce Myer & TD Jakes bc Oak Cliff is a Word of Faith congregation.
I agree with you. People are blindly standing behind him, no matter what the word of God says about this sort of thing. This vague confession of some vague sin is not the transparency that is expected from a leader. Not just in my opinion. It is written in the word. Cherry picking verses will not negate the fact that this 'confession ' does not stand up.
You are in my prayers Pastor 🙏
BLUF: If David, a man after Gods own heart was restored so too will Minister Evans. Romans 5:20, "But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more".
Totally different positions. You can't compare a King to a pastor.
I hope he didn’t leave his political activist son in charge. I used to follow Dr. Evans but once his son started promoting BLM, I had to unfollow their divisive agenda. I hope Dr. Evans pulls through. He had great messages that I listened to on the radio.
God is our Redeemer. However, trust can only be restored through the process of accountability and transparency. Only God knows when our hearts and minds are fully restored. Pastor Evans has taken the first step in the right direction. Praise God, he is working out his faith. Blessings to him and his family because whatever the case may be, he has been a blessing to ours. 💜🙏
Please provide scripture references to support your stance. Thanks
We don’t need to know the specific sin Dr. Tony Evans committed. Stop being nosy and pray for him. That is what we’re called to do. None of us are perfect and we all have sin and fallen short of the glory of JESUS!
This seems to be a common comment. Ironically, Tony would seem to disagree that the sin he committed is just normal, everyday sin. By his own admission, whatever it was, was enough for him to step out of pastoring. Leaders are held to a high standard and pastoring is only possible where trust is present.
You'll notice, he is not asking to pastor right now.
All in due time.
Sir, I totally agree with you. I will start by saying that Mr. Evans did the right thing by stepping down, as opposed to some false ministers who more or less wait 'til their sins find them out (as the scriptures say they will) publicly then try to get sympathy from ignorant followers instead of repenting and stepping down (likely because they don't wanna lose their tithes or status). There are few ministers who I have enjoyed listening to, who are actually learned and effective, and Mr. Evans is one of them, so I am definitely disappointed but not surprised. The Church is altogether in a backslid state and Jesus is coming back for a Bride that is "without spot or blemish." I will absolutely pray for Mr. Evans and the Church as a whole. NOW... the scripture (as you listed) is clear about the qualifications of shepherds (bishops, deacons, teachers, elders, mothers, etc.). In addition to what you already explained, the scripture calls for ministers to be "blameless . . ." I find it hard to believe that people are so easy to brush off an such an infraction that has apparently been covered up for however many years while the man still preached and collected your tithes and offering under the guise of "truth", while knowingly lying to himself, his family, you, and most importantly the Holy Spirit. Read what happened to Ananias and Saphira in the book of Acts who lied to the Holy Spirit. 1 Timothy also speaks of ministers who have their consciences seared in the last days . . . these men are literally are not even afraid of God's judgement. Not to mention the woe God gives to those who cause His children to go astray in Matthew 18 (and you have to know many people will lose faith in the church seeing all this deception/secrets in the church). All that said (and of course we can go on), Yes, we have all sinned and fallen short--as everyone is holding strong to; AND when true saints sin, we do have an advocated with father 1 John 1-2. But that does not change God's expectation for a minister (Timothy, Titus, Thess. etc). Saul/Paul murdered Christians and yet was forgiven and became one of the greatest leaders of the Church, but he did not keep persecuting Christians during his ministry, nor ignore what he did. We use our testimonies to help people when we are truly repented, not leaving people wondering what is he hiding, OR if there is someone out there who were/are still hurting from whatever it was. Remember the Samaritan who tried to half-truth Jesus and he told her she had 5 husbands and the one she was with now wasn't even hers. She ended up being the mean to bring others to Christ. But I think in due time he should be forthright; and he may feel more free as well. At the same time, depending on what it is, he may have little ones, grandkids, family etc. that it may harmful/embarrassing/uncomfortable for them to have that information out there. Ultimately, forgiveness for sin is in the Lord's hands, and I do pray Mr. Evans is sincere. Ministers are to be held at a higher standard, and him stepping down and saying he is going to worship along with the congregation does show admirable humility that is rare. I pray that God bless you all in your walk with Him always, and Thank you for posting and listening as well.
So hard to be a leader today . So much temptation everywhere
Maybe it’s hard cuz your faith is not strong enough.
Or you’re just a weak person with no self control
And lies
Am praying for him,no human is perfect
We all have sinned and come short! We are human beings. Why not repent and keep going. God said that he wouldn't remember our sins. I don't understand Dr. Evans reasoning but I won't judge him. That is the Lord's place.
Amen
@@angjen1 What am I missing? A sin committed years ago? Is it not possible to confess and repent and stay? Is stepping down required? Just asking.
TO MUCH IS GIVEN MUCH IS REQUIRED! So if a Pastor falls because of molestation of a child you think that they should ask forgiveness and STAY IN THE PULPIT??? (not saying T. E. Did this ) but somethings we do even after Repentance does not mean we shudnt step down on certain platforms if the Lord leads. The problem is people worship these leaders and people look at them like they can do no wrong and when they fall we are either shocked or make excuses and want them to continue on in the ministry they are part of. Let God lead them and we should get our eyes off them and look unto JESUS (Hebrews 12:2).
I enjoyed this video. I think Tony Evans is a wonderful man and was upset to hear of him stepping down because of past sin...mainly because he was a role model for black people, especially young people. My first thought was that he hadn't said anything so he wouldn't ruin his work in the ministry.
I thought you did a great job covering this topic, and I,too, thought he should have said more so our imaginations would not run wild. You brought out some very good questions which I'd like to know the answer to. I am just now remembering David did bad things, but he confessed and was forgiven.
This why so many people dont want to attend church or God, most of these people going on like they perfect. Thank God for Jesus and what he has done for us. Can you imagine how many people will be locked out on that great morning when he returns? What a roll call!! How will you answer???
Yep...oh what tangled webs we weave under the guise of a 501c3.
Just because he hasn’t openly confessed his sin…what gossipy folks are itching to hear!!! He owes nothing to no one but GOD and his family! He’s a great Man of GOD!! He is not sinless just like we aren’t! As Jesus said, “let those without sin cast the first stone”…NONE OF US ARE SINLESS so drop your stones!!! Lift Pastor Tony up in prayer 🙏🏽. What the sin is doesn’t matter!!! The best thing about it is that “NOTHING can separate him from the love of GOD” Romans 8:31-39. GOD LOVES HIM and so does his brothers and sisters in CHRIST! Praying for healing and restoration for you Pastor Evans and Family 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Leave him be. Stop using this for views. He is doing the honorable thing. Leave him be. Thank you.