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- Robert Morris' Son-in-Law Reveals THIS About Gateway Church SCANDAL
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His son in law sounds like he's close to tears.
Grace to them in this season. May we all call our leaders to righteous accountability
The members of Robert Morris's family who are in ministry have had their reputations and future finances by association destroyed because he wouldn't ce clean.
@anessahamilton9279 for Robert's family, Gateway, and the grandkids.....a very minute/small/insignificant mention of the "so called young lady" who was 12 years old when she was sexually assaulted by a 21 year old man....continuing until she was 16 or had just turned 17. Yeah, his son-in-law thought he was doing damage control.....no mention of worth noting for the victim....a 12 year old girl.
@@carygriggs7he didnt need to repeat the victim's age or her name. It was very obvious that the SIL meant the girl, Cindy and there may be others as I highly doubt she was the only victim of RM. We only saw part of this sermon & he may have said her name at the beginning tho again we all knew who he was talking about. I dont believe he was condoning Roberts actions or anything else
That was a beautiful, honorable, Christ filled message from the son-in-law. You can just hear the pain and the heartache in his voice. Praying for Gateway and all those involved.
🙏 but he should be in jail and prison for this action like all the others sexual abuse cases 😢
@@SueBradbury-zz6rp well you have to remember that he hasn't been in court and declared guilty yet. He's only been accused at this point in time, even tho he basically admits to it, and should be in jail, he will have to go to court and be found guilty before he gets sentenced to jail, no matter that we believe he should be in jail already. He gets to have a trial first, unless he makes some sort of plea deal.
Wonderful, honest, spirit filled response from a son-in-law.
Very Heartfelt And Passionate Truthful Message, Thank You
Well said Amen
Bull
This young man seems to have a humbleness and gentleness in The Lord.....genuine towards the people....
If the church have known this before and did nothing about it that is also a big problem in the church.
You are pretty self righteous with this comment
The congregation probably didn't know they would have had a meeting about this hopefully.
Praying for restoration.
The church had been informed that he had "an inappropriate relationship with a young lady," NOT that he'd molested a child! There's a HUGE difference in the world between those scenarios that help us understand WHY the church didn't act appropriately!!!!
I have been a Gateway member for many years but will no longer be going to church there because I believe that the elders in the church knew about this and covered it up.
It is devastating to the children, Son in law, and grandchildren. So sad and I pray that God will help them through this. We must realize that our actions effect others for generations!
The sins of the fathers.
Did he mention anything about the victim????
And Most of all Cindy the child.
@@deborahroghair5993yes he did
@@deborahroghair5993 did you watch it? If not, do so, and you'll have your answer.
This is a mature response from a loving son in law who loves Christ, loves his wife and family, loves his church, loves the truth and is committed to loving his father in law. I can feel the tension. Praying for you brother, for your church, your family and the wisdom to maneuver through this situation.
Yes & Amen.
Well said. Amen.
Well said and Amen.
Well said and Amen!
Just wondering why the son-in-law didn’t mention Cindy. Wonder if RMorris is blaming Cindy still to his family.
This young man sounds far more sincere than the elders I’ve heard address this.
@@leadtrackere1476 yup, agree
Agreed
Agree with you!!!!!
Agree
@@debrajohnson3435 are you talking to me? Because I said he sounds sincere.
God is concerned about everyone who is connected to this. Both sides are in pain & traumatized. Now God in HIS INFINITE WISDOM will minister to each one concerned. Our job as the BODY OF CHRIST is to keep ALL IN PRAYER. I BELIEVE IN HIS HEALING POWER FOR EVERY BROKEN HEART & DAMAGED SOUL
If you are willing to be open and honest.
So well said. There is always 2 sides to every story.
I agree. I am praying for both sides, their families, and the church family that attend Gateway as well in this difficult time. God loves everyone. He can heal and restore. We serve Almighty God who can do all things. We as Christians should all be praying for them all. God has forgiveness, mercy and grace for all.
What a Beautiful man of God!!
Father pls Kp Eathan and his family in the palm of ur hands. We see and hear the dissaponitment and sadness in his voice.
LET GOD BE THE JUDGE TO WHAT PASTOR ROBERT DONE TO THIS YOUNG CHILD.
GOD ALWAYS DO A BETTER JOB THAN US.
I so appreciate your sensitivity and understanding of how far reaching sexual abuse is!! I was abused by a youth leader and didn't tell my parents for 20 years. When I did, they chose not to say anything to protect his family! Also, I was married for 25 years before my eyes were opened to my husband's acts of abuse with our daughter and then later our granddaughter. He has never admitted any of it and he has had no consequences. My daughter then married a man that was an abuser. Our family is so dysfunctional and torn apart. I have, alone, tried to be there for everyone but now at 63, am unable to handle life myself. Sexual abuse of any kind changes your brain and therefore your decision making process. I am so thankful that through it all, God has drawn me (many times kicking and screaming) to Himself. I know God uses all for our good and His glory and this is what brings me comfort! Thanks again!
I am so sorry this all happened to you. I love it that you though being so hurt you still hold on to God even while sometimes you did it kicking and screaming.
I know about holding on to God while kicking and screaming. My life was also filled with a lot of betrayal, pain and struggles.
Yes my hope too is He will use everything for good some how.
Love and blessings
Anne
Thank you Anne! One day we will suffer no more!
@janicecanady9814 - I am so sorry for all the horrific pain you and yours have had to endure. I think I'm one of the few people on earth who have lived outside of these dispicable and repugnant atrocoties, however, I do think I am an empathetic person and it breaks my heart to hear about people who endure such evil. I'm so glad to hear that you have kept your faith in Jesus. One day you will be released from the pain and suffering you've lived through, and for all eternity you will know the Love and Peace He intended for us all to live under. Meanwhile, He can, and I'm sure does, heal you; it might be here a little, and there a little, but keep your eyes on Him; vengengence is His 🤗 Psalm 147:3
He heals the brokenhearted and binds up their wounds. 🙏🏼🙏🏼✝✝
Janice, I am so sorry. I understand you completely as I am a survivor as well. Someone who was abused this way by her pastor father told me once to remember that Jesus was watching and He was weeping. He did not cause this sin, Satan did. That has stuck with me ever since. I hope it can be a comfort to you. He loved the children and always called them to Himself because He was loving and gentle. He is our hope and one day we will be with Him in a place where no one can hurt us again. Cindy will be there too and many other abused women. But we will be whole and totally healed. Bless you sister.
I feel your pain. My daughter was only 5 when her own father abused her. He was never blamed, never arrested, never even a slap of the wrist.
Very sensitive presentation, dear brother. I love that you mentioned collateral damage, because that's huge in this situation and you did very well and presenting that. Thank you again and God bless you as you minister in this format.
As someone who has been through a pastors abuse I am EXTREMELY touched by your sermon. You are right that being unable to talk about it is almost unbearable but Jesus never left me. Prayimg grandparents got me through. I never blamed Jesus church but the leaders that hid it. I am older now & have managed to leave the anger behind. I pray for your family & your church because attacks from the outside hurt but attacks from trusted people within can break faith. God bless & comfort you. Love & prayers to all of you.
This pastor’s message should have been the one given from the Gateway mother church instead of the one the member from their board of directors gave last week. This pastor’s words and his humble and grieving demeanor came through as genuine; sincere. In addition, there is no statute of limitations in the State of Texas where some of the SA took place according to Cindy’s testimony. #JusticeForCindy #JusticeForAll 💜
E just said that statutes of limitation is expired
@@michelegreene3995 You’re welcome to look it up yourself. The statute of limitations expired in Oklahoma but not in Texas. Cindy has testified that the SA began in Oklahoma when she was 12, but went into her teenage years both in Oklahoma and Texas.
@@iamme123182 you miss the point. Legal is of the world.
Those in the spiritual are called to a higher calling. Do you know this poor women has never found a church home...only attending church sporadically. But reading her bible as she went with memories of her father reading the bible around the dining table. She has never experienced the sense of belonging that we have.perhaps after Gateway recovers from this attack over the next 490 days they with their new pastor can invite her to attend church with them.
This is between her and Robert Morris.He will have 490 days as he turns the other cheek without retorting to see God's working for him.
Let God sort this out.
Did you know she said she wants to close Gateway...a false church with a false pastor on air on TH-cam. Turn the other cheek. Be the family that you are and pray for her whatever you hear for the next 490 days
Amen to your comment!
@@iamme123182 laws regarding the statute of limitations have changed, but they only apply from the date the change in law occurred, not for things that happened decades ago.
This is the most sane, godly response I have seen to this catastrophe since it happened, both on the part of this channel & Ethan - I pray the Lord would continue to use both these men as beacons of His light during these dark days of pain & turmoil to guide, restore & bring healing to His holy name & those who are suffering as a result of Morris' ungodly actions.😢🙏💔✝️
So true
What about the victim's HEALING?????
That's what I wander
If Robert Morris really Sexually assaulted this woman She should have took care of this situation back in the day. When my stepdad said vulgar things he wanted to do to me putting his hands on me I told my Mother and she prayed to Jesus in 1979. Always deal will issues at the time they took place.
@@user-su1oq8bm3b We all make our choices, that relationship lasted 4+ years. The victim mentality is for those who are being forced today to be victims.
@@TracyAbellera - She can forgive only through our Messiah, Yeshua Jesus 70x7.
She was innocent and was truly deeply wronged but has made an adult decision to bring down a mountain of pain on thousands of others. I pray somehow this retribution, justice or vengeance is healing for her so she can go on with her life and leave the rest.of the innocents to heal themselves. This young pastor, his wife and kids are innocent and cast no stones - only love.
*Larry Burkett's book on "Giving and Tithing" drew me closer to God and helped my spirituality. 2020 was a year I literally lived it. I cashed in my life savings and gave it all away. My total giving amounted to 40,000 dollars. Everyone thought I was delusional. Today, 1 receive 85,000 dollars every two months. I have a property in Calabasas, CA, and travel a lot. God has promoted me more than once and opened doors for me to live beyond my dreams. God kept to his promises to and for me*
There's wonder working power in following Kingdom principles on giving and tithing. Hallelujah!
But then, how do you get all that in that period of time? What is it you do please, mind sharing?
It is the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US and abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus
Big thanks to Ms. Chisty Fiore❤️✨💯May God bless Christy Fiore services,she have changed thousands of lives globally
How can I start this digital market, any guidelines and how can I reach out to her?
This young man impressed me with truth and spirit. I wanted him to also be fired, thinking no healing would come for the church family members if there's still family in authority. But I'm wrong after listening to him.
Why would he be fired?
Thank you 4 this. May our precios Lord bring restoration 2 all involvded. ❤
I am not a Robert Morris fan, I have never liked his teachings. But the fact that this has been 35 years and there is no other victims. I think things have gotten way out of hand. I am not saying there shouldn’t be consequences. But how has this went on for so long. I read that the victim wanted 2 million dollars. I think I would have stepped out and admitted and ask for forgiveness before being blackmailed.
This is beautiful, and so needed at this hour, dear brother. It was moving to hear this son-in-law take a honest, vulnerable, and direct stance that was both personal and applicable to the body of Christ. Thank you, so much, for sharing this!
This son in law gave a beautiful message that stayed focused on Jesus and the finished work of the Cross. Thats what we all need to do.
Therein lies the problem. Christians think they get to skip the devastation plant your head in the sand & act like everything is fine. No we need to feel the pain, acknowledge the secular arrows & face the shame. Just moving on does not work because this happens too often. The disgrace to Gods name is damaging and needs to be mitigated.
Yes, but not to forget about the VICTIM!
Is a Pedophlia crime no justification
Complete stonewall to the actual victim in this case. Sad.
Jesus would have focused on the victim. You are part of the problem in churches today. Pathetic
From experience, I know families are devastated by what the head of the family does in these cases. We should keep Robert Morris families in prayers. They are not responsible for his actions.
It's sad when things like this happens,but I seem to think RM is not fully opening up usually people like Robert Morris could have also been abused at a very young age and such people does not like to talk about it or to be questioned about it because at a young age your abuser threatens you.iin some cases if it gets to much for them usually they do the unthinkable.😯🫢🤦♂️
What about the lady that was abused as a child.
The love of God is clearly demonstraded by this Godly man, Ethan. Jesus must remain the focus through it all......God is both a forgiving God, and Healer God.....As Christians we pray for those caught in the ripple effect of this sad story.....Lord, please do what only You can do! 🙏🙏❤❤❤🙏🙏
Yes, focus on Jesus. Focus on the things that He said are right and wrong, BUT do not ignore something that is so obviously WRONG.
Thank you for addressing the fact that though God is a God of love and forgiveness, God IS a God of justice! Robert Morris has not truly repented; rather, he continues to deflect blame. However, "whatsoever a man sows, that he shall also reap!" My heart is so heavy for Cindy for the many years she suffered without support. Many of us who have been abused, have been victimized again by the church, who sides with the abuser; listens to and believes the narcissistic lies of the abuser. Jesus knows the truth! Luke 12: 2 reminds us that "there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, nor hidden that will not be known." For all the brokenhearted, Jesus has promised that He "will never leave us or forsake us." Keep clinging to the Lord through this horrific trial. Cindy is a living testimony of her faith in the Lord through this whole sordid time, bless her heart. Clinging to Jesus is what has helped me to heal from years of abuse. Isaiah 42:3 has always encouraged my heart. May this verse encourage many who are greatly suffering in these days: "A bruised reed He will not break. And a smoking flax He will not quench; He will bring forth justice for truth." Thank you for sharing your thoughts in the midst of your own heartache. May the Lord be the "lifter of your head," as Psalm 3 encourages us all!
@@jenarnhold you
Have no idea if he truly repented I feel
For Cindy but I am also suspect of her request for $2 million dollars. This really is between Robert and God. He is the only true and proper judge for this sin and blessings for Cindy who has suffered
The Word of God says to forgive those who have done us wrong..
That applies to everyone..
So, we forgive and let the pervert return with a ticker-tape parade? You can't be a 1-verse hobby-horse rocking away the carpet.
Amen 🙏
Forgiveness… what Jesus gave to everyone who DID NOT deserve it. And he asks us to do the same.
What’s your point ?
Easy to say when YOU weren't the one molested with this man's fingers thrust inside you. It's people like who who are responsible for keeping this man in the pulpit. SHAME ON YOU!
@@aheartforhealthif he confessed it than it's forgiven. He is cleanse from all unrighteousness! Show me where leaders are exempt from sin? It takes a lot to be a leader, but when he makes a mistake the body crucify him.
I’m sure that Robert Morris is ground to powder. We must also pray for him…he’s still a soul.
There is healing for victims and Pastors alike. God is the Judge of all. Let God be the judge. But let healing begin now on both sides, because this is the will of God. I thank God for the revealing, healing and restoration on both sides.
Lord be with this family and the victims and the church ❤
Gateway better be giving the woman whom Pastor Morris molested for 4 years . She and he should talk WITH the elders present . I have forgiven Him, and because I too was molested at the same age , I grieve with her . Love ❤
Robert needs to be publicly apologizing not every one else. Your fault Robert, own it !!
We have ALL SINNED and fallen short of the glory of God…I see only the need for forgiveness to Pastor right now…this all happened before he was healed and surrendered to the way of his calling …none of us can review our lives before God sanctified us from the sin we were living can cast the first stone…Pastor has proven himself for decades and come up pure and faithful….Let’s FORGIVE AND RECOGNIZE GOD’s mercy …every one of us is capable of the same measure of sin…this man has changed my life repeatedly with consistent preaching of the Word of God…if you must judge ..judge who he is TODAY… not for sins 30 plus years ago….i believe this is a test for us all to practice FORGIVENESS AND ACCEPTANCE FOR A TRUE SERVANT OF GOD…
“Young lady” she was a child!!!!! Own it Robert & mega church!
He committed a crime and should pay for it according to the laws of our country. Forgiveness can still be had in Morris paying for his pedophilia.
It is not your business at all . Churches peeps in majority are so 😢in vision. Lord have mercy. Love sinners starting with our own self it is in the Bible. Hypocrites....
@@ruthschampier2167
I agree with you 100%. I have listened to numerous messages from Robert Morris that has taught me about the awesome God we serve. I don’t need to hear any apologies from the man of God Robert is today. Believe me, I have no doubt that the sorrow and the grief he is experiencing now is so much worse than any of us can imagine. The shame of the sin he had committed over all of the decades ago, has opened a wound to bring on much pain and sorrow to his entire family and his church family. I was on the other end of the sin of betrayal by my husband. Trauma is awful and I’m sure he is more concerned about the pain that this has brought on to his wife, children and grandchildren. God bless.
This needs to be a lesson on forgiveness, grace, mercy, bring the body back to unity, not condemning and judging like we are God. I pray for everyone involved. And I know that I have committed sins in my past especially when I was young but I'm not proud of. But that's what the blood of Jesus is for for taking our sins and our iniquities and changing them from Scarlett to widest snow. And I think we is the body of Christ need to be like Jesus and bring forgiveness and restoration
Seriously??? Restore Morris to his glitzy pulpit???
@@karenhatmaker7775 this needs to be a lesson on how to properly hold leaders accountable. The rush to forgive and restore the leader is so misguided. It's always about the leader needing to stay in our her back in the pulpit and victims are told to forgive and move on with their life. And if they struggle with that, they're not good Christians. The Church has so much work to do. This formula that you've laid out is the go to response for decades and it's the reason so many leaders have not been held accountable and so many victims struggle with what happened to them for years or even decades. Until the victims become the priority and the Church learns to truly bind up their wounds, no amount of restoration will matter.
Morris should have offered to pay ALL therapy costs for the victim instead of threatening her with jail in asking for money to cover therapy
Defending his sin is demonic.
That would have been the LEAST he could do for Cindy. Instead he lied and now is hiding as his world comes crashing down around him. No accountability whatsoever for his deception.
@Mtnmamma5251 it's not accurate that he had "no accountability whatsoever". He was taken out of ministry for 2 years to go thru a restoration process.
@@danapet1 no accountability for his lying, deceit and misleading his church. “ a young lady”
The guys are going to have to change their last name and find different jobs.
By immediately starting to talk about forgiveness, the victim is silenced. Listen to the victim first, she has a right to that!
There's more about the Morris' that will come out. I feel sorry the Cindy and what happened...😢😢😢
I was molested by my pastor from ages 12-14. I appreciate what the church is saying to victims of this type of situation. I never received any counseling. Sadly, there were at least 6 we know of that this happened to. Many of the church members blamed us. Many never spoke to our families again. He actually went on to preach at another church. We felt like we were the wrong ones. The way this church is handling this is the right way to do it. If this has ever happened to you, please talk with someone and get the help you need. It has gone on to affect my life and my marriages. But this is true for any molestation - not just a pastor.
This is why so many who experienced this never came forward. This brave young man is a wonderful spokesperson for the family. It will take pastors like him who will keep the church from collapsing.
I feel like weeping for all involved, when one hurts in the body it affects all believers.....
It is my understanding that he apologized 30 yrs ago, and that the church knew about it. Yes, he did wrong, but aren't we called to forgive as Christ forgives us? I know how difficult forgiving is in this situation having been horribly abused and cheated on myself for many yrs. God's grace is greater than the pain of the abuses. What bothers me most is the way some of Robert's closest friends have totally turned on him for something he did and repented of 30 yrs ago. Thank God that He doesn't treat us this way. Yes, we should have love and care for the abused, but we also must love those who have acted as our enemies. I pray that Jesus will grant to all His grace, mercy, forgiveness, love, and faith.
Well said you are a real Christian
YES AMEN!! FORGIVENESS!!! GOD REMEMBERS NO MORE WHEN WE ARE FORGIVEN!! SO WHY ARE SO MANY JUDGING HIM FOR FOR A REPENTED SIN?? GOD IS THE ONLY JUDGE, NOT MAN. SIN HAS NO MEASURE, WE ALL HAVE FALLEN SHORT OF GODS GLORY. THATS WHERE GODS MERCY AND GRACE COME IN BECAUSE GOD IS LOVE.❤
@@michaelcuellar6912well said
She was 12 years old, he may have to suffer consequences.
morris has shown no repentance. He has lied the whole time calling her young lady. She was a mere 12 yrs old. And it's despicable for the wife debbie to have called Cindy ...and say she for gives her?? This is insane. He has not repented!! More things that have been hidden will be revealed.
Protect your children, Pastor
MOVING ON - you can’t unless there’s
1. CONFESSION (Confession)
2. REPENTANCE (Commit to Change and discipline) step-down n step-away from the vulnerable
3. RESTITUTION (make amends to victim(s)
God be merciful to me a sinner.
I agree that what R M did is shocking and a real letdown. I'm also going to say, let us pray for healing. We put people on peddle stalls😢, let's stop it. In closing, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
Psalms 94:19
Gal 6:1
Let us do the right thing ❤
Live in glass houses? We're not abusing children ! What's the matter with you?! People like you enable these people and support them eventually being back in positions of authority. It's sick.
This is the problem. Focus on the shame, pain and devastation and stop turning it around on anyone because it was wrong it was appalling.
Pedestals!!
Sinning has nothing to do with anxiety. He's a pastor and should never stand in another pulpit. The only thing he should do in church is sit in the pew. He'll do this if he has truly repented and is a Christian.
Jesus SAID, "If anyone does harm to a little one, tie a millstone around his neck and throw him into the sea."
When quoting scripture, you can't camp on a few, you must include all - called Sola Scriptura and Hermeneutics - the rightful interpreting of God's Word. Unless you know how to use the above, please abstain from quoting a few and ignoring others.
If this church loves God more than Robert we will see in numbers
Maybe, maybe not. Number are of the world...everyday miracles, epiphany's...
Judgement begins at the House of God. Search our heart oh God and test my anxious thoughts. If there be any wicked way in me lead me in the way everlasting. Ps.139:23.
May we all continue to grow in the fear of the Lord and do what is right unto the Lord. Things are shaking but God remains the same. And that which is built on Him will stand through the shaking.
The church has not handled this well. A few elders were removed, but they were still at church receiving salaries and all their benefits. Robert Morris is a millionaire his salary is 20M a year. For sure, a smart preacher.
There is no sin that God did not forgive on the cross , both small and big . Robert Morris has repented before God, and I believe God has forgiven him. But the church will not . I know he has to face the consequences of his actions. But the church should be about restoration of the victim and offender . Let’s go to the word and see how the Bible handle it Forgiveness is the 🔑 as God has forgiven us . The same measure you give will be used against you. Again, let the lord comfort the victim and church, let’s not destroy each other , but know that we have an enemy. Lets tender grace , for by grace we are saved, not works . ❤️
If he's asked God for forgiveness then he's forgiveness and everyone else's opinion doesn't matter ...GOD forgave David for his sins .....who are we to judge this matter ...leave it to GOD !!!
He never repented. What you have to ask yourself is why you are so dead set on protecting and defending a pedophile. This pig continued to lie about what he did, and when the truth came out, he still lied- calling her a "young woman" when she was a little girl; and saying a "inappropriate relationship" when he groomed and molested a little girl and stuck his fingers inside her for almost FIVE YEARS. When she filed a civil suit against him in 2005, she only asked for $50,000, to cover the cost of lifelong therapy she has needed; Robert and his lawyers told her no- we'll give you $25,000, and you sign an NDA, agreeing to never tell anyone what was done to you.
That is nowhere near asking for forgiveness or repentance. Jesus said it is better for a man to have a millstone hung around his neck and be tossed in the middle of the sea, than what He's gonna do to him, for hurting a child. Stop coddling pedophiles and start caring for the victims. It's sick minds like yours that kept this evil man in the pulpit for all these years.
God also wants Morris to make amends. He should never be in front of a congregation again unless it's to apologize. This son in law and daughter and the rest of his family are caught in the cross fire. If Morris was repentant he would've come totally clean years ago. Instead he referred to this as an affair with a young woman. In fact it is statutory rare when it involves a minor. Let's protect children and not preditors.
Are you serious? So are you saying the opinion of that innocent little girl does not matter? I am so sick of people saying if he asked for forgiveness that is enough. Well it is not. This "who are we to judge" nonsense is old and falling on deaf ears. Asking for forgiveness does not mean he is a changed man. Even in his admission, he tried to minimize the impact of his predatory actions. He attempted to blame the little girl, and yes, she was a girl, not a young lady. This predator caused irreparable damage, so no, asking God for forgiveness is not enough.
For the body of Christ, forgiveness is absolutely a command. However, the crime of sexually assaulting a 12 year old girl, is punishable by law, and there is no statute of limitations.
God's judgment no joke. His Word is to obey. God use Nathan too. Jesus help us all❤🙏
Proof that sin affects others as well as the one committing the sin...
When I heard this First thing ,I thought was Jesus words to the accusers of the woman caught in adultery, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Then I thought of king David, his sin of adultery with Bathsheba and his trying to cover over his sin, even to the death of her husband Uriah. Sin is sin and we need not brush it under a rug, I am not saying that. But God is a very merciful God and does forgive and restore what the locust has eaten, and we ALL need to remember that. And the other point is this, this is all from Satan to destroy the church, his family and to cause, at the least, great division, criticism and judgment. But each of us need to remember," For ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God", all of us! and failed the Lord and our families at times, some much worse than others. Jesus also told us, Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy. I am praying for mercy from his church family and that great glory and good, and healing to come for those believers and spiritual growth. God can and will bring beauty from ashes for those who place their hope and faith in Him.
This was not against another adult; this was against a child!!! A HUGE difference there.
That's all well, good, and true. However, you neglected Jesus holding up a child and saying, "If anyone harms this little one, it is better that a millstone be tied around his neck and thrown into the sea." All I'm hearing from Gateway is, "It was wrong BUT the scriptures say..." Religious deflection!
. YES YOU'RE RIGHT YET IT HAPPENS ONLY ONCE HE CONFESSED HE REPENTED HER PARENTS FORGAVE HIM AND BEST OF ALL GOD FORGAVE HIM AND EVER SINCE HE HAS HAS NOT COMMITTED AGAIN WHY NOW
Where's your compassion and mercy for the victim? Your mindset is sick and evil. Shame on you.
@@elizabethvargas4165 Do you personally know Morris and therefore are aware of his behind-the-scenes activities? If not, please silence yourself with your spins, gossip, and unfounded accusations. Or, produce totally documented proof to back up what appears as slander. You're sounding too much like a Morris-ite bobblehead.
Could you imagine the heartache and the pain that the 12-year-old victim endured for four years? Churches need to stop protecting predators. He didn’t care about his present, past or future family nor the child he was hurting. He didn’t care about God either or the consequences of his sick actions. He only care about himself. He was a criminal and I hope charges are pressed against him.
I’m praying for Cindy and God bless her for coming forward as I do understand how hard that is and it takes courage God be with her and I pray for healing for her and her family
Heart broken and praying for Cindy and her family and Bro Robert and his family.
Began praying the moment I heard it and will continue.
Heartbreaking 💔 absolutely devastating. Poor family
Healing will come when @Robert Morris comes out of the closet, fully acknowledges his sin and compounding errors, seeks restoration of the victim first before himself, repents publicly, admits his guilt without some legal protective spin, and quietly steps back and forgets any idea of reentering church leadership. Robert Morris can best serve the ministry of Christ going forward by distributing his extreme wealth gained from ministry and give it to the poor and to abuse victims. Amen 🙏
Please don't hold your breath waiting for RM to redistribute money to anyone but him and his family.
Many people are directly affected and hurting. It takes nothing from the young lady who was sinned against if we acknowledge the concurrent pain of Robert Morris' wife, daughters, family, and church. I'm amazed at the level of judgement so easily expressed toward an innocent family. Many of us ARE concerned for the primary victim and many of us ARE praying for her. Still, it's 100% right and good for pastors to encourage the wounded sheep to keep their eyes on Jesus, not on fallen Man. There's no need to bring up the victim's name every time. Virtue signalling does her no good; praying for her does. It would seem from some of the comments that the church is no more humbled by the Grace of God they've been shown than the critical theorists of the World. We can love, pray for, and comfort ALL of the victims if we truly have the Love of Christ in our hearts.
Thank you for this message. My heart has been so heavy for the family. I can't even imagine how they gave each day. I will pray for everyone involved and for Robert
God bless this man and his wife and daughters. You could hear how painful this was for him. Now THIS is the example of a Godly man. 🙏❣️
practically ALL of this sermon was on how gateway church is feeling, NOT how the victim is feeling! SMH
Shame on them
Shame on all of you. If you are not a part of Gateway then your opinion is irrelevant. What matters is the victim and the members of the church who have been blindsided. Those calling for his apology he apologized 35 years ago to the victim and her family! The family and my church family have a right to grieve this as well! It has been difficult but our eyes are on Jesus. If you are in the outside trying to tear it all down just please stop.
He can't speak for the victim but he knows the church. You're so off on this. She's already said how she feels. That said, he spoke of her feelings at beginning of message in detail
She was Promiscuous with a,Jezebel Spirit
Pride goes before the fall.
This son in law gave a beautiful, sincere and humbling sermon.
Yes, it was...in fact, too "wordy-humble" for me. Not any scripture touching the horrors Cindy endured, most was directed towards Morris with a subtle loving airbrush. Some was appropriate but too much political spin the other way...religious deflections.
Proverbs 16:18
King James Version
18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
@bert-cq3ij your comment is very heartless.
Certainly not the heart of God.
@@carolynnmarkiewicz6015 Reallyeth? This is 2024, and NOT 1611. Speaketh common English, okayeth?
@@carolynnmarkiewicz6015 Gee, that sounds familiar...Oh yeah, the disciples said to Jesus, "Lord this is a hard (difficult) saying and people are leaving..." Jesus called a spade a spade, didn't mince his words to suit others like you.
Sending love to you as a Christian
I pray for a healing that only God can give to his daughter and Son-in-law
And your children
Of Robert Morris
Sending a big Hug and prayers in Jesus Christ
Prayers for Cindy and Church I was appalled when i read this on internet. My daughter was recently baptized at the Church. I attended this Church on 3 Sundays while visiting my daughter in Houston. Only God can heal the brokenhearted. Son n law gave a heartfelt sermon truly a man of God.
What I’m waiting to see is the church reaching out to pastor Robert and Debbie to acknowledge their redemption they worked through and embraced and believed in Jesus’s forgiveness. How could they have served feeling guilty or shameful? They believed in their forgiveness. They committed to serving the church. They’ve done this for decades. It’s like we are judging this act and refusing to be Christ’s love towards Robert and Debbie. Don’t you see that outwardly loving Robert and Debbie will not lessen their consequences?? I’ve not heard one supportive statement to them. This is not a reflection of Christ’s love. 😢
He molested a child!!!
I pray for them. I don't condone what he did at all but I think he does love God, just should have been stopped from doing what he did years ago. I'm sure he's in turmoil and should be. I hope Cindy can find healing
I Say As A North Jersey Cover To Cover Bible Believing Blood Washed Born Again Christian Pastor Robert Morris HAS BEEN FORGIVEN …… Praise OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST Who Shed His Blood On Calvary For ALL Who Will Keep There Faith In THE CROSS Where All Sin’s Are Forgiven Past Present And Future….. Someone Please Explain How The Entire Body Of Pastor Robert’s Anointed Continual Cover To Cover Teaching And Preaching Should Be Totally Removed From -(TBN-Daystar-So Called Ministries-)- As A Blood Bought Christian I’m Truly Grieving That The Enemy In The Time And Hour Of This Nation’s Condition Has The Ability Too Disrupt Thru A Power That Can Not Be A True Reputation Of MY LORD And SAVIOR JESUS. Pastor Robert As A 68 Year Old Former Catholic Who 9 Month’s Ago Lost His Right Leg Due To Being Allergic To A Hospital Blood Thinner (Heparin) And Lost A 49 Year Self Employed Truck Driving Career…… I Say PRAISE JESUS You And Your Family AND The Young Woman Are In My Daily Prayer’s. All Please Consider As A Body Of God The Father God The Son God The Holy Spirit We Can Not Allow The Enemy To Destroy Pastor Robert’s Totally Anointed Body Of Teaching And Preaching, Pastor Robert From North Jersey I ASK For An Abundance Of Blood Bought BLESSING’S On You Your Entire Family And Especially The Young Woman In The Name Of JESUS!!!!! Amen. P.S. Pastor Robert WE Are Going Thru!! And Please Excuse My Incorrect Grammar And Punctuation….. 50 Years Operating Tractor Trailer Ah.
Gee, Melly, what about the victim. You're a bleeding heart for a lying child perp and never mention the victim anywhere...not one tear!
@@flandrensinteriors3428 He did stop doing it… 40 years ago and repented. It’s under the blood of Jesus. God’s love can heal everyone involved. He healed me from the abuse I suffered after I forgave my abusers. I’m victorious because of Jesus.
Debbie his wife knew all along. She kept the secret with him. The blame for every layer of this is Robert and Debbie and the victim is CINDY!
Though he may have brainwashed her from the very beginning (maybe) to spin the story of a young lady instead of 12 year old. The wife had apparently told the victim that she forgave her. Why? Was that because wife was brainwashed with a false story or was it she decided to go along with a false story so they could build their church. Idk. My husband and I have experienced a person who lied to save his face to so many people. The difference is that RM is known to the whole world. The fact he often talked about it, it obviously was close to his concerns. Very sad. He had lived this lie for well over 30 years. Very sad.
Marriage truly makes people as one. My brother married a narcissist. She even uses him to do her abuse. He's blinded. it's insidious.
@@grannynair7821100%
we don’t know what he told Debbie Morris
I don’t think he told her the truth
Maybe she believes the gospel more than you.
@@deborahalbert1148 yes we do, its a known fact that she was the only one besides him that knew the truth. She was there when he went through his redemption therapy with Shady Grove Church and she was there when he left ministry the first time, she is the only one who was there to witness the whole ordeal after he was originally confronted.
Nightmare week for sure. But I will say what about the nightmare that Cindy lived for 35 years. Speak about that for a minute.
I’m praying for you all. My heart hurts for all that have been affected by this. And the whole body of Christ that we would keep our eyes on Jesus. God is a good good Father.
SO well done & so appreciated. As he said, this stirs up a lot for many that hear the situation, and I'm very thankful for his personal analogy of the vocal surgery, and how he said, "I can't imagine the pain of those that had to remain silent for decades ". Thank you Brother. God Bless you
This family knows more about RM than anyone. They knew his behavior, his wife knew as well
So you think his children and son & daughter-i-laws knew?? I doubt that! What an insensitive thing to say.
@judywilliams2213 Judy, my father was a minister, and he was caught cheating on my Mom in 1970, when I was 13. He was put out of the ministry, and we had to move away, to put distance between him and his paramour. Prior to that, I had formerly viewed him with almost the level of respect I had for Jesus. Then, in 1992, my sister told me that her son said my Dad had been molesting him since 1989 (he was 3 years old then)!!!! This was also surprising, but less so because the respect I used to have of him was already gone. He served 2 years in prison, had 9 years probation, and spent the rest of his life on a sex offenders list. In 2012, my son told me he had also been molested and that he couldn't remember who his perpetrator was!! Of course, we both suspected that it was his grandfather because of Dad's admission of guilt in the previous case, and it was SO devastating!! Knowing Dad's hair-trigger temper, I had done almost everything I could to shield my sons from him EXCEPT not ever seeing my parents again. I NEVER left them alone with him! But my husband, who'd been assigned to take our sons to the men's bathroom at my parent's church, had trusted Dad to take them to the bathroom 🚻 a couple of times. And this was possibly when it happened! My son has rejected God and church, possibly for this reason! Trust me, families suffer the most when their family head and minister has moral failure!!!!
To me it is very obvious after seeing the emails from the victim to RM in 2005, he had ample opportunities to make things right and consider the heartbreak he caused the victim. But he didnt - mayb it was his pride and the fact he was in such a high position, he thought he was invincible. He probably didnt want it exposed even back then, as often abusers love the power to cover their sin. If the sin was exposed, he knew he had committed a crime and so often told his congregations about his immorality with a young lady, not a 12 yr old girl. That has been plain deception, living a lie to the world for all these years. Very very sad!!!!
The whole thing is devastating but yes the deception adds another level
He kept asking her over & over how much she wants? She said 2 M and never contacted him again. This shows that she wanted something from him that he was not giving her and it was not money.
@@georgiafain3747 Seriously? What exactly are you implying?
He told a false story so many times he believed it himself. He used the false story as a foundation for his ministry and amassed his wealth and fame through it. A castle built on sand. He found a way to deal with his sin and his conscience, to move forward in his life. It just didn't involve the victim.
@@laurykristensen6239 very good analogy about the house built on sand. Sinking sand is what he is experiencing now. I do hope for his eternal soul that Daniel applies to him. And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
God is still with this man as he goes through his storm. I pray for the victims of this tragedy. Praise God, we serve an awesome God who is still the same yesterday today and forever, so let's trust God with the outcome. I pray that all who are involved keep their eyes on Jesus who is the author and finisher of their faith. Praying for all.
I pray to God THEY ARE ALL MADE TO STEP DOWN ALONG WITH THOSE sinful elders who KNEW WHAT MORRIS HAD DONE!!
While this is devastating to the church and Morris’ loved ones, it’s an opportunity to draw near to Christ like never before. The love and caring within this church as they seek the Lord’s help and healing can bring about a church body who has weather a storm that threatened to take them down. God can do amazing things. Who knows what good can come out of this -- only God!
YES, AMEN AMEN AMEN ❤️
Amen🙏🏼✝️
The ultimate victim is not Ethan Fischer, or his wife Elaine, or their children, or his church. The victim is Cindy Clemishire. Ethan ignores her. He cannot say her name. If he wants to help victims of abuse, start there.
Yes.
Yes, you are right!
He already did he doesn't have to say her name a million times
Cindy is the first victim. Everyone who placed faith in Morris is a victim. He was false teaching wolf long before this happened.
Robert’s kids are victims just as Cindy was. They are innocent in it all but still very much affected.
Thank you my brother. So beautiful and heartfelt encouragement.
I have been Brutally hurt by the Church, and unjustly Judged by the Church by False accusations based on Stupid Rumors that they spread.
Thank God I go to a Church that doesn’t put up with this and Has shown Loved to me .
Great sermon Ethan!!!! God bless you and your family. Hang in there.
"hang in there..."??? Good grief.
Amen, what about forgiveness for Robert Morris, when he was a young man he sinned and we all have sinned
Fallen short. If we are going to judge our brothers and sisters when the Lord says he has forgiveness us. You with out sin cast the first stone.
Finally you summed up the solution biblically and in TRUTH. I'm sickened by everyone's unloving response...we outsiders do not have all the facts . Leave to God!!
We do forgive him. But he his wife and those who knew profited off his lying about the "affair with a young lady". They knew she was 12 when it started. He needs to confess the whole truth and repent for real. He is firgiven but needs to fully be accountable. His wife should apologize for helping him lie
He committed a sexual crime against a CHILD and never honestly disclosed what he did, asked forgiveness from his victim, or repented. He withheld the truth for all those years while continuing in ministry instead of being charged, convicted, and serving time. Had it been handled as it should have been, his victim would have had closure and healing. THAT is where our hearts should be - not giving a pass to someone who selfishly covered his sin instead of dealing truthfully.
@dianeandjesus you are Exactly on point
@@brendaburton392God does not remember the sins
Why was Ethan asked to step down? He is clearly a man of God that’s trying to maneuver as the church is also trying to maneuver through this try and time.
❤such a beautiful sermon. My heart hurts for you all, but, i know God has this situation in His hands. You all will make it through this. This too shall pass. You are all loved and stay strong in God
I (Linda) respectfully would like to say this happened 40 years ago. Since then, as far as I know he has not continued in this sin.. The American Church is soft. We have yet to learn what the forgiveness of God is. It is easy to sit in judgment on one and not the other. I understand this went on for 5 years. She said her parents knew about it. Obviously, they did not know about it until many years later. Why 40 years later? I am sorry, but the victim is not pure in this. At first, yes in the beginning, but now? If we didn't need a Savior, we wouldn't have one. If we didn't need a Redeemer, God wouldn't have given us one. If we didn't have a Deliverer we wouldn't have one. We live in a battleground. The Church is terrible at destroying their own wounded. This whole situation at the root is a grievance between 2 people. I question the intentions of the 50 plus year old victim. This should have been dealt with years ago. Jesus gave instructions in Matthew 18. There is a process. The Church is negligent in following the Word of God concerning these things. If God forgives, then who are we to not forgive? A mature person in the Lord will forgive and move on. People who leave the Lord because of what another does to them are spiritually immature and refuse to trust God. When we idolize men, they will fail us. When we worship God and keep our focus on the Lord, we will grow in grace and favor with the Lord. I trust that God will bring healing on all levels in this. Just as King David committed adultery with Uriah's wife, Bathsheba, who became pregnant with his child, and then David killed Uriah using the enemy to do it, God sent a prophet to confront him with his sin. David's immediate reaction was repentance. it is amazing that even under the Law of Moses, God did not remove David from his position and order him to be stoned. There were consequences that effected his family, but he remained King and is still honored as being in the Messianic Family Line. REPENTENCE IS NOT AN EMOTION, IT IS A CHANGE OF BEHAVIOUR. This has been seen over the years in Robert Morris's ministry. I am not saying he is perfect or pure, but neither is the other party. FORGIVENESS IS BIG WITH GOD. WE NEED TO GROW UP AND BECOME THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS HE HAS CALLED US TO BE. We must remember these people are part of the Family of God and pray for healing and wholeness for all involved. We must lift up the person who had this happen to her and her family, and the Morris family that these things can be remedied according to the wisdom of God and not the laws of man.
She was a child, so don't be so cruel. Cindy was an innocent child.
She is saying the truth ! Yes she was a child was she innocent ? Only God knows ! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Changed behavior???? 😂 Are you serious? He gave a sermon many times on Jake’s Motel that he dedicated his life to God in 1981 ROOM 12. He said that he may have sinned but he never returned to sexual sin! He said if you were saved when you were 8 and you sinned sexually in your teens, that your salvation was not real like his wife Debbie. He said Debbie’s salvation was real at 8 because she was a true believer during her teen years. He said that he turned in 1981 and that’s when he was actually saved because he didn’t turn back to his son knowing dang well he did what he did from 1982-1987! He preached this over and over! I was thinking for years that I wasn’t truly saved when I was 10. He said my family was cursed because we weren’t tithing. We started tithing! I reached out to gateway for help from my cheating ex husband! The pastoral care made excuses for my ex and made me feel as if it was my fault! They made excuses for the cheater!!!!! This would be totally different had he been honest and said that he was “saved” in Jake’s hotel and fell back into sexual sin, but he didn’t! He made us feel that our salvation wasn’t real! This is not a man who changed! Everyone let him preach room 12 over and over, making people feel like their childhood baptism wasn’t real! There’s something wrong with this on soooooo many levels! Unbelievable that anyone would say this! How inconsiderate of the victim! It’s so hard to come out because you are afraid of people like you!!!!! This is not God’s fault, this is a man’s fault! He lied for years! We also went to a 911 couples counseling after another affair with my ex. That couples home group also blamed me, “the wife” and made excuses of my ex with his porn addiction! That MAN, Robert Morris, needs to publicly apologize and needs to be tender towards Cindy! Unreal!!!!!!!!!
Again Thank you Linda for this beautiful words ! Very well said ! Love you 🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️
Amen The Wisdom of God is what matters- He and HE alone gives approval- His approval matters. Man's Obedience to the principles of God is the subject here
Praise the Lord for you and Elaine and girls. Praying for all the family and church family and all the lives that were touched by RM in his ministries including on line ministry. I am praying for the elders also. God has grown the church and I’m so grateful that He is in control and pointing to Scripture is what Jesus would do. Jesus is the answer and following his Word no matter what. Right is right and wrong is wrong but be careful we don’t judge that is Jesus’ place. Sin is exposed and God can forgive, heal and restore. I am praying for all involved in this horrible nightmare as I am a mother of two daughters and nieces that were molested by step grandpa and have have dealt with this and the traumas for years I know all have sinned and we are not judge but to pray pray and keep praying. I also appreciate how you reminded all to guard our hearts God has forgiven us and we need to forgive and yet protect our children Gal 6:1 Psalm 91:19. 1 John 1:7. 1 Cor 15:58
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I believe? As David’s son was so glaringly before the Lord, and he was forgiven - so Jesus can renew and restore Robert Morris. I was a child of abuse from the share of 5 to the age of 16 by my father! God has graciously redeemed me and my father was forgiven. Yes, the abused goes through continuing trauma - But God! I’m so thankful for a good that considers everyone and restores ♥️
You can hear the pain in his voice continuosly
Yes the pain is in his voice. My daughter was recently baptized at the Church. I visited the Church 3 times while visiting my daughter in Houston. I seen this last week on Internet. I said omg that's the Church we were attending. My Prayers are with Cindy and Robert Morris Family
Were I Robert's daughter, Id be having a conversation with my kids about grandpa.
Were I Robert's wife, Id be asking my daughter some questions too.
The wife knew about it before she had a daughter.
@deborahcatalano261 how do you know that?
@@KSU-ce2uc morris had a son by 21, when this happened.
@@KSU-ce2ucbecause Morris and his wife met with the victims parents and elders of Shady Grove church after his ‘restoration’ period and prior to his restoration to being a pastor. This is common knowledge to those who’ve been following the story closely. His wife knew which makes it even more egregious.
I think yall are missing my point. What Im saying is his daughter and grandchildren may have also been victimized by him.
Let him/her who is without sin among us be the first to pick up, then cast a stone. Included in our sin is self-righteousness. I am reminded that the Bible says, "There is NONE GOOD, but the FATHER." 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 Help us, the people of God, to PRAY!
This is such a sad story...there is no clear cut answer for any of the parties...
I hope they kept the grandchildren safe.
What????
All the protection Robert had from the surrounding staff around him all these years proves Church is handled more like a business than a Church!… All the staff that knew things, even the IT guy for the Church that transferred a download of phone conversations should be looking at the part they played in all of this as well…. And money was the center…
Not all churches
@@joanseaton1709 waaaaay more than Not. The down fall these days... This is why so many people don’t attend Church anymore. It runs like a business. And operates like a club! “Who’s in with who” “who’s rubbing elbows with who.” I go through that at work and now deal with that at Church?!…
The word is a motivational speech, not the gospel!
@@brendaperry1313 you're right, I've been in some myself.
Thank you.... Thank you....We all needed to hear these words and to pray for all concerned and to mostly keep focused on Jesus!
This is damage Robert did and by not admitting to what he truly did is not repentance
Robert did this! He should be held responsible
The victim didn’t do this! She was the one sexually violated
And no one is talking for about what a nightmare it’s been for Cindy! And what it’s done to her and her family no one, the elders, is talking about restoring healing to Cindy with accepting responsibility and asking for her forgiveness which she already has
It’s like there’s Cindy over there and the “church over here focusing on themselves
Yes they need it too but Cindy is the one Robert committed this horrible acts and crime against.
I beg your pardon! Many people, including the elder who spoke from the mother church. There are SO many people praying for all concerned, especially Cindy
This was really encouraging and so good Biblically speaking. Thank you.
This situation is more about the victim than anyone else here. Her whole being and innocence, childhood, young adulthood, shattered, destroyed, twisted and total confusion then and every day since up to today and beyond. Utter annihilation of all she knew and believed in to be true, gone. Never to get even a shred of any normalcy, ever again. Even if healed, it remains in her memory, feelings and continued thoughts.
Thank you
Hmm that’s not the Jesus I know. He totally healed me from what Satan did for evil God turned to the good hallelujah!! I’m no longer a victim… I’m a victor!! Victory in Jesus
@TruthinLove33 Exactly. Same here. Now a distant memory. Sad to live constantly in the past. Forgetting those things behind......and......!
@@timewilltell5476 Amen!
Sure there's going to be victim haters, but I expect Cindy counted the cost and felt it served everyone best to expose a hypocrite and false teacher, especially someone that never should have been in church leadership.
Whoever is without sin cast the stone. Yiu right. All this stuff is beyond the destruction of pastor Robert..... What a shame to disgrace him farther than necessary!!!!!. Yiu are a good son in law.
I don’t feel the family should be held responsible for the sins of their father . They were children themselves when this happened. But Robert still should pay for his CRIME it is a crime to molest a child .
Heartbreaking!!Prayers to both families and extended family and all Christians that are in the bodyGod is good but we will all be accountable for our sins!
Gateway has been my place of worship two different times. I have watched Robert’s sermons many many times. For people to even infer that Robert is not a repentant man…..I may be missing something….but have we not seen that fruit with our own eyes? People need to look at his heart not his sin. This is the exact thing that Jesus did in his ministry. Matthew 15……what comes out the mouth is what defiles us. These things have not come out of Robert’s mouth…..he is a repentant man. He’s been in counseling has he not? The woman that’s going all over the place to continue spewing her bitterness…..she needs to repent and let Jesus heal her. Bitterness is just as damaging to the body of Christ. I was molested by two men when I was 6 years old (am 70 now). I carried that bitterness for 24 years until Jesus healed me. Noticed I have gone 40 years without bitterness…..what’s wrong with this woman that cries she’s a believer, but yet she still walks broken. If she is truly a believer then she needs to be healed where she does not want to see “justice” done to her perpetrator. Does the body of Christ forget about forgiveness….do they not preach the Jesus of the Bible. I am disappointed that this sin was hidden. But I am more ashamed that the body of Christ does not heed to the scriptures. Let go of the hurt, the bitterness, the unforgiveness, the hate, the retaliation…..let this Jesus of the Bible heal your wounds. He will do that if you ask him.
You are missing something. He did not repent. He lied about what he did for 40 years. Does that sound like repentance? He didn’t come clean. He got caught.
He did not get caught.
She needed to shut up....does she not care how many lives she has now ruined???
She will be judged.
She and all the me too's need to shut up.
Out of all the men that served God in the Bible, they too had to repent, which they did to be able to serve God and bring others to Christ.
Robert Morris was definitely in the wrong, but I truly believe he has repented.
He has been greatly used by God since repentance.
I don't know if he asked the woman and family to forgive him and possibly this is what he needed to do for them to get through the horrible acts that he did.
I do not know what the family or the woman went through mentally and I do pray they can get through this now by forgiving and moving on.
I can understand the anger, frustration, hurt and pain, but after 42 years, forgiveness is their only way to find peace for themselves.
Did she and the family try to call Robert Morris before going public and try to talk about what happened?
Maybe, he has tried to call you to ask for forgiveness, if not, he should.
If he has called and they didn't accept his repentant apology, then they should again try to reach out to him for their own peace.
Joyce Myers was sexually abused by her father and she found peace by forgiveness.
Yes, it took her many years, but that is when she got peace from God.
Unforgiveness holds us captive and keeps us bound from going forward.
God has forgiven many sins of many of His teachers and followers.
He forgave murderes and used them, of course after repentance.
That did not help the ones that were murdered, they could not forgive the murderer but Jesus could and did, just as we should.
I'm sure the murderer relived those murders over and over even after repentance, because even though God can forgive them it is so hard for us to forgive ourselves a lot of times.
Eventually we can when we truly understand His forgiveness and that is when we can forgive others.
May God's forgiveness fill all of these hearts so all may feel the freedom of peace that God wants us to feel.
How dare you.@@laurastumpo972
Too bad the son in law isn't the Pastor of this church! He's for real!
You make the great point