Every time new cameras come out, we are all amazed at the technological advancements. Pros and people with money are probably having a lot of fun with these cameras. As an amateur and as a retiree, my budget is limited. I had to sell some older pieces of gear in order to help finance the purchase of the new at the time A7RV. I am not into video so, for me, it is the perfect camera. I hope my joy of using it will last a few years.
I've been using Sony Mirrorless since 2015. I have been using their point-n-shoot cameras since 2005. I can only relate to Sony about this and not Canon and Nikon since i dont follow their roadmaps anymore. But one thing is certain about Sony is that these new technological advancements will come to all of their cameras. When the A9 was released back in 2017, we got those features in the a7Riii and a7iii. Only missing features were the stacked cmos sensor and 20 fps burst. Your a7RV is a superb mirrorless camera that the a7RIV should have been. It will last year 10-15 years and stay relevant too. It's the perfect Rolling Shutter a7R model and I think Sony maxed it out. So how do Sony top their a7RV model? Likely the future a7RVI is going to be a Global Shutter sensor and be more pricier at $4,500 usd price tag. Other than that, your a7RV will give you years of joy so shoot away.
@Broskisnowski I could have but didn't. At 70 years of age, my shaky hands and failing eyesight appreciate the state-of-the-art AI autofocus immensely. The extra expense was worth it.
@Broskisnowski Heck no dude! It's more like 60% of the a7RV. A7RIV doesn't have 10-bit colors, A.I. autofocus, tilt & flip LCD, and so much more. A7RIV is not even worth getting anymore. It's either A7Riii or a7RV.
@harryvuemedia5106 yes I recently got a7rv for sports, portraits and occasional birding My mate has a7riv and the 5 is so much better and he is jeoulous as Add to the fact you can crop very well ect to. Even though 10 fps I'm having no issues at sport with it even though i would like 15 to 20 fps. This is why I got r5 I stead of a9iii and will hold out and save that money for a1 ii
@@MRBuDWiZe Great choice! Yes, i disliked the a7Riv as I felt like Sony only released it to get a 61 mp sensor out and a new body. It's basically an a7Riii with more mega pixels. I would only buy an a7Riv if its $2,400 usd brand new or $2,00 usd used. I feel like the a7Riv is the least innovate model out of the entire a7R lineup. For sur i plan to pickup an a7RV in the future as well. Its the perfect Rolling Shutter R model now. And I do think sony will make the future a1-ii a global shutter. Will be pricey though, im guessing $7,500 usd easily. Keeping it at that price tag will not devalue the A1 and A9iii greatly. Expensive but global shutter is just too damn good.
i shoot with the A1 and have no thoughts in buying the A9iii the A1 is a nut machine i love the 50mp , the speed, the serious fexibility of the camera for stills and video
@@303badassboxer you tried turning it on? 😂 i shoot studio, wildlife, portraiture, real-estate, landscapes, sports, motorsport, lowlight, pretty much a mix of everything and also video including utilising 4k120 and hd240 a lot of the time. The sony A1 is an incredible tool. Also shooting with it for 2 years and over 150000 shots its only used its mechanical shutter 137 times.
I have had an A1 since they first came out. I will keep it along with my new A9III that can do things the A1 will never be able to do, just a fact. . I also have A7RV for what it does. Many pro sports shooters and wildlife shooters already love the A9III. 50 A9III covered the Super Bowl alone. Use what you have and be happy. I will be happy with all three of my Sonys. Cheers
@@6gwilliams same as the a1 can do things many other cameras cant either. all depends on our needs.. for me the A1 does pretty much everything i need to work daily and yep the a9111 is incredible but i dont need it. i used to have the a7riv great camera but realised 50mp is the sweet spot for resolution and the A1 is now where i am. enjoy your cameras
after taxes and memory cards..i'm looking at $8,200 to $9,000.00 - commie taxes in my state. .... have to be an idiot with money or a corp sponsored to burn money like that. HELLLLLL NOOOOOOO to sony. Sony's ergonomics just kinda caught up to Canon of 6 years ago with sony's Sh*tty rear screen in 2024
@@j.kimmer1509 6 years ago? my 10D from 2002 felt better than my A1 :) I HATE flip out screens so that rules canon out. They also have no 24 35 50 or 85 f1.4's in fact no pro 35 at all and their widest prime is a cheap 16 f2.8. Up to 300mm I think Sony have the best lens options.
I have the A1 and bought the A9iii. For me, the flip screen, precapture, latest AF system, the newer still/vid/S&P selector, a "*" on the dial for stills framerates so they can be adjusted digitally with bottons, and general speed of the camera itself is enough to have be selling my A1. (formatting a card is almost instantaneous and buffer dumping to a v90 card is extremely fast). There are a lot of usability upgrades that has close to doubled the speed i can operate. I pretty much always shoot at RAW lossless M anyway on my A1. I should say that i have an A7RV for work where i need the extra MP. i am very impressed with this new A9iii.
@@DarrellWingerak if you are talking about megapixels.. no.. otherwise, they are both full frame and deliver similar results in the end. you'd be hard pressed to see the difference.
The A9iii is fantastic! I ordered right away. I shoot action and had two A9 bodies (I love the a9 series and couldn’t wait). In my opinion and for what I do 50mp isn’t needed, 24 is more than enough. The A9 iii doesn’t miss in any lighting situation. I don’t care about 250 iso it just bumps my shutter even more. 135 1.8, 50 1.2. It doesn’t miss.
Hey Jared. I have an A1 but bought an A9iii. I love the 50Mega Pixels of the A1 but for shooting sports the A9iii had some distinct advantages for sports such as baseball. Ball going into the glove every time. Bat on ball just about all the time. Global shutter so no bent hockey stick on slap shots. Those are just a few off the top of my head. Hope to see you in Philadelphia soon. Thanks for what you do.
Do you mind the downgrade in megapixels? I probably wouldn't mind it given the benefits the A9iii provides and the smaller file sizes is convenient. I usually don't care for high megapixels however when I get a high megapixel camera, I usually get it for that reason.
I have the Sony A1 and I have been using it for a couple of years. I am perfectly happy with the camera and now focusing solely on my photography itself. Don't get me wrong I like looking at the new cameras that Sony is coming out with, but nothing more than that.
I watched a bird photographer with the A9III, the FPS was insane. Now for years I’ve said if you can’t get a great shot with a 10FPS camera then go home. But this has changed my mind, this guy was getting so many open wing options it was unreal.
I just got an A1 after waiting a long time for the release of the A9III. I could not justify the money for a camera with image quality no better and maybe slightly worse than my 2017 A9. The 50MP of the A1 offers something different for me. No one is talking about moiré , some say the A9III will be better others say no. moiré is a major problem when shooting in front of large led screens. Keep up the good work on the pod casts, LOVE THEM :)
As an A1 shooter and wildlife photographer I’m sticking with my 50mp at 30fps. Cropping is important in my world and 24mp is too much of a step backwards even with all the awesome tech.
I got A1. I was using A7R series before, starting from R I all up to A7R IV. The A1 is perfect due to it's ALL in one features. A1 II with global shutter 8K 60P and same Dynamic Range, is way more enough for me to upgrade! Camera is awesome. and I can't wait for a March huge firmware update. Hopefully they can finnally add Webcam mode, so I can use bloody $6500 camera, to connect my Xperia as an External Monitor, what Sony officially advertises, but I can't do it, cause I paid the most for the camera!!!!
Thanks Jared Polin, I own A1, A9III, A7RV so I have all the best of all of them. FYI, I bought all three of them from Allen's Camera , my fav mom and pop dealer . I am a former longtime Philadelphia Inquirer staffer, freelancing now and teaching as a Professor of Photography at a state university. Cheers
You are the smart man.!!!! save your money and buy the A1 in 3 years.... i just picked up a "like new" A7ii or $400.00 ..... just wait, don't be the donkey that burns money $$ 8,200.00 after taxes and one memory card....HELLLLLLLL NOOOOOOOO
@@j.kimmer1509 It is what you want in your workflow. Most hyper expensive new ones aren't always it. I have been a Sony shooter for a long time. 6400, a7r ii, and a7ii and the original RX10 delivered all the time. I wanted the battery life and focus engine of the a7iii. Now the deal. 99% of my cameras and lenses are used. There is no way I can do this otherwise. $6000.00 for a body is out of the question. First I am not a paid professional, 2nd I just know my needs, and what I do. I have a friend who likes Nikon. He wants to stay out of national debt. Doesn't care about mirrorless. Cool he shoots a used D7200, and loves it. Full Frame was not a big for him. Options with lenses with the money you save on the body.
For non global shutter Sony cameras you can hold the camera upside down to get the bowing of things such as bats or golf clubs to appear more realistic. The samples in this video do look off because the bowing is going the wrong direction relative to motion.
A1 best all arounder. Just so incredibly expensive, before adding lenses. I want it, but for $3k less I can get pretty close performance with Canon R5 system refurbished with 1 yr warranty
after taxes and memory cards..i'm looking at $8,200 to $9,000.00 - commie taxes in my state. .... have to be an idiot with money or a corp sponsored to burn money like that. HELLLLLL NOOOOOOO to sony. Sony's ergonomics just kinda caught up to Canon of 6 years ago with sony's Sh*tty rear screen in 2024
Good detailed comparison, thanks Jared. One small thing about the A1 (and later Alpha cameras) that has made a difference to my workflow is the mechanical shutter closing to prevent dust getting to thee sensor when changing lenses. The A9III doesn't have a mechanical shutter, so it can't do this. In its use case for sports though, photographers probably won't change lenses that often. It is another tick against it as a general purpose work tool though. I shoot with the A1, I need the megapixels and IQ more than the speed it has but it sure is a fast camera when I do need it. The A9 III looks like an awesome action camera, but I am in the" wait for the A1 II" camp.
As a person that photographs mostly wildlife, and ends up cropping most of my photos, I chose the a1 just last week. If the a9 would have had a bump in megapixels to say 33mp, I would have been all over it. It helped that there was a trade deal that dropped the price for the a1 from $6500 down to $5200.
I really love the new body design for the α9 III - can't wait to see that "trickle down" to the next regular/midrange α7 camera. To me that sort of stuff is more my speed than getting the expensive pro sports cameras I don't need the capability of. An α1 II with basically all of these upgrades but with the original α1 sensor (which is still INCREDIBLE by the way...Sony has it in their flagship professional cinema cameras the Venice 2 and Burano) sounds like a banger of a camera.
I shoot wildlife photography but I'm undecided what I want. The A1 sounds great but I also like what the A9 iii brings. Currently have a Sony a7 II and would like to upgrade
I'm buying the Sony A9 III for my TH-cam channel, thanks for the great video, I was thinking of making the transition to 8K, but really plan on waiting until RTX 5090 NVIDIA GPU releases, when the processing power for 8k improves I'm going to pair the hardware with a Sony Burano 8K and Inspire 3 8K to film at 60 fps - 120 fps. Having a more powerful graphics card is important, as the render times for my projects at 4K have started to hit 3 hours mainly due to the use of slow-mo and hyper-lapse effects, if I were to stack added frames at a higher resolution I doubt the render times will look all that great. For now, I'm thinking of filming primarily on a Sony A9 III and a DJI MAVIC 3 PRO by end of year at 4k 120 fps. My budget for extra film gear sits at around $10,000. So, I've mostly been focused on improving the visual quality at 4K videography and found the Sony A9 III to be the correct choice given my current PC hardware being a bottleneck for 8K video capture. When the price of 8k TVs drop to $999 I might switch to an Alpha 1 II series when it comes out, or try to make the jump to a Sony Burano 8K at $25,000. Paired with Inspire 3 at $15,000 to go for that true cinematic look on my VLOG series at 8K with high frames. I just feel nervous to try and film at really high frames and then edit 8k frames without a next-generation Nvidia card, and I already budgeted for an RTX 4080 to make the switch to higher FPS 4k video, which will already cause the video size to be about 4x larger due to having 4x the frames from 25 fps to 120 fps. Simply increasing the fps for rendering purposes and my use of slow and hyperlapse capture in my video series is going to cause too much of a demand on my PC hardware to where my render times could go from 3 hours to 12 hours on an RTX 2060, which is why I'm hoping that my budget for an RTX 4080 to be sufficient to handle the added FPS from 4K 120. Even so, I find myself filming at a 4K XAVC 25p and a lot of people don't even do that in LA for their VLOGs or film outside their homes. In other words, for the sake of broad action videography for my VLOG, and having environmental flexibility, I prefer editing outside of a cine-grade tone, and prefer preset color defaults that work with minimal visual distortions and without rolling shutter effect to take into consideration limited lighting control, or control over lighting in environment. It's why cinema cameras are great if you have control over environmental lights, but when running and filming and videoing you might not have control over physical lighting when compared to cinema sets, journaling and vlogging are so different and requires added flexibility in frame. It's why ZV-E10 did so good with VLOGs on TH-cam, and it's what I use to film currently. But, I plan on making the switch to Sony A9 III and will pair with a DJI Mavic 3 PRO to create a more powerful visual image with an emphasis on 120 FPS being the transition point in my VLOG series... I also pair this with an upgrade to an RTX 4080 soon, which should power my video editing as I make the transition from 4K 25p to 4k 120p quality video on my TH-cam series with zero rolling bar effect due to global shutter providing added flexibility when filming everywhere across the USA and from where I live in Los Angeles. I really appreciate the review, it makes me a little more confident with what little budget I have for equipment this year... some might say my $10,000 budget is massive, but it only covers one camera sensor, one drone, one laptop, and a couple camera accessories (lenses and etc). It's very competitive when compared to the gear set-ups for most amateurs, but it's still a mile away from the quality achieved from studio level equipment like a Sony Burano or Venice 2. That being said, I'm sure I'll get my hands on a Burano if I work hard enough over the next 24 months.
I currently have both R5 and A1 and looking to sell A1 when R5 II is released BUT in order for that to happen it’s going to need the following: - Similar screen to the A9 III - Dual CF B slots (a boy can dream) - Full size HMDI (now I’m just crazy) - Variable Shutter - Oh and a stacked sensor If Canon fails me I will not be buying the R5 II and keep my Sony A1. Hey Sony! BTW where’s the new firmware update?
Do you have a lot of sony lenses? It hard for me to switch to other companies because of the investment I have on my lenses. The A1 has been good enough for me.
@@Chopper153 I ended up Selling my A1 and R5 and went with dual R5 II’s for events because of pre capture. I’m not happy about the memory card slots and the low light Dynamic range is really bad I have to use Denoise often. The screen still sucks. Looking forward to the A1 II rumors.
I just got the A9 III and was wondering why I waited so long. Analysis Paralysis and overthinking the Resolution Yada Yada issues. Hey this camera rocks. That’s all I can say. I also ended up getting the A7RV for stills work and feel like I’m set for speed, sports, portrait and landscapes with my 2 new bodies. I sold my trusty A7 IV and will miss it but look forward to moving forward. When the A1 Mark II comes out I’ll cross that bridge when it does. In the meantime I’m loving these two systems with my Sony GM lenses!
Grateful to have Sony lend me the a9M3, I was excited about these specs and now I have it in my hands. I’m at Track and Field Olympic trials, so these athletes move fast and critical to get the sweet spot over hurdles, so was looking forward to the 120fps. It’s fast, global shutter is fast. But this auto focus tracking is slow and can’t keep up with these athletes, so many out of focus shots as they are running their events. Also between the sensor and its inability to shoot low light, I lost so many shots. Found myself switching bodies while on the field because I felt like the a9M3 was failing me. I look forward to a1M2 whenever that comes out, but I’m sticking with the a1 family.
Hey, so I've heard many times that the a9III focussing ability were quite better than that of the A1. You confirm your experience was in fact just the opposite? The A1 was able to keep up with the track and fields athletes and was significantly better at forussing in low light? Is that right?
Having this A9iii for about a week. Well.. You can say that as a sports content creator, this camera is unbelievable. The features and the feeling working with is so good(especially the grip). 😮💨
amazing video as usual...! got a quick question, im a hybrid shooter , enthusiaatic for that matter. I love shooting birds and view shots and street photgraphy., as well as good video. Im seating on the fence for some time now trying to decide if i should get the canon R3 or the sony a9iii. what do u think ? which hsould i get Jared, help ! im dying here ! mony or lense is not an issue.
Great video as I was looking at the A9III and the A1. I shoot a little of everything but love to shoot sports. I feel if the A1II was out I could decide, but that isn’t an option… so what to do? For the money I think I am going with the A7CII for now and wait for the A1II.
I have the A1. Got an A7Vr - for the flippy screen. I love the A9iii for the pre capture. I don't find the 15 frames per second with 3rd party lenses to be an issue - right now I am shooting Low for multi shot. Insects since spring has started, soon I will be shooting bird shots. I have the Sony 200-600 and 100-400 for when I decide to do 120 frames per second.
Cheers Jarad, another good review. If you could offer your opinion, A1 vs A9iii when shooting aircraft or wildlife with the 200-600mm? Trade off between ISO and resolution? Have you any comparable experience? Thanks 🙏🏻
I have both cameras. Great A/B setup. Replaced a RED Raptor and Canon R5C for these. A1 8K is a great interview A cam for cropping and A9iii is wonderful for b-roll.
if the a7III / IV doesn’t cut it for your professional shooting - the a9III is all you need. can’t convince me otherwise. you can crop in w/ sharp 24mp photos. aside from that it’s better in every way for my money. plus i’d be curious as to what they put in the a9 II
The a9iii and a1 are the only Sony bodies with the smarts and parts for serious sports photography. For the most part, the Sony lineup seem made for journalists, wedding and portrait photographers,, anything but for action photography.
Jared, come on back to the Sony fold. Both are pretty impressive, The global shutter is most impressive for Sports shooters and an easy buy. For more general shooting I would stick with the A1
OH HELL NO. after taxes and memory cards..i'm looking at $8,200 to $9,000.00 - commie taxes in my state. .... have to be an idiot with money or a corp sponsored to burn money like that. HELLLLLL NOOOOOOO to sony. Sony's ergonomics just kinda caught up to Nikon & Canon of 6 years ago with sony's Sh*tty rear screen in 2024
I wonder what camera producers gonna do in next years because what we have now already surpasses anyone needs in terms of performance. 120 fps shooting - you can make a movie gif with this. Maybe night vision iso ranges ;)
I have both cameras and I love the a9iii, the 8 stops of images stabilization for low light , the 4k over sampled with no crop , pre capture , ai chip for focus tracking , 80,000 ss and the flash at any speed , better ergo and better color science , more buttons to customize and the list goes on .
THANK YOU SO MUCH for such a great comparison and for your opinions and insights. Out company is buying a Sony FX3 for events but I will now probably be buying the A9 III personally primarily as a shooter but also able to take beautiful videos as long as the rest of my build supports it.
For me personally Id go with the A9 III. For high resolution I already have my still capible but a couple generations old A7R III. On a side note, do those new adaptive presets work in LR Mobile? If so then I will be adding FroPack 4 to my FroPack1,2 and 3.
Imo the A1 is more compelling for anyone who is not exclusively a sports shooter. The A1 can bridge the gap to sports better than any camera not an A9III with a global shutter (maybe an R3) But the A9III can’t do high res shots, it’s not a great studio camera for that reason. While the slags sync speed is better, if you’re in a controller studio environment you shouldn’t be exceeding what the A1 can do anyways imo, for video, I prefer 8K 24 and low iso than no rolling shutter. Some of the best cinema cameras in the world are not global shutter yet. Low iso for video and resolution imo is more important than a marginal increase in rolling shutter performance. Yeah it has “none” but the A1 has such minimal rolling shutter in 8k and 4K it’s almost negligible. And many videographers who aren’t solo run and gun shooters won’t care about the AF improvements as they’ll have rigs with manual focus pulling or gears of some sort.
Just made the jump to Sony mirrorless with an a9ii from a Nikon D7000. Would love to pick up an A1, but that is not in my budget. Sill need to get more lenses, only working with the 70-200 GMII and a Sigma 150-600 EF lens with an adapter.
Nice review, I'll be sticking with the A1 however if I had the funds I'd likely pick up an A9 III as a second body to have the best of both worlds as I do sometimes require the extra mp for cropping, and want the 100 base ISO for landscapes. It might be worth mentioning that the 1/80000 shutter is not available with lenses wider than f1.8 and is limited to 1/16000 which could cause issues shooting at f1.2 and f1.4 with a base ISO of 250.
Thanks for this comparison Jared! I am a sports shooter and have been using the A1 as my main camera for the past year while having the original A9 as my second body. When the A9iii was released, I pondered whether to purchase it and use it along side the A1... Certainly going to wait at this point until Sony releases the A1ii before replacing my original A9.
In the good old days a reasoably good dslr would last many years before they areconsidered old before being replaced by a newer model, but now anything more than 2 years is considered "old" for morrorless, especially for flagship modles, and they are also a lot kore expensive too. When i bought yhe A9ii (upgraded from the A7iii) 3 years years ago, i thought that's probably my last that will last me for the rest of my photography journey, but as it turns out, i am begining to see why its falling behind in terms of design and capabilities. As I am now starting to look out for a 40-ish MP sensor fullframe to compliment my A9ii, neither the A9iii nor the A1 fits my needs, Even after watching this video (not that this video is bad), i am still not convinced that either of the camera is for me, because one is "old" tech with less than ideal LCD resolution (just to mentuon one of the many old tech design) while the other doesnt have the pixel count (for those who is already using a 24MP body). I guess as the battle to dominate the FF indistry between the 3 big brands continues, consumers like us will just have to be mentally prepared that whatever is going to come out next (be it the A1ii, or the A7v), they won't stop there, and the change will only be faster and more expensive. I am an event shooter btw.
I have to have pre-capture. I have it on my Olympus cameras...and I want it for use with my Sony glass. What I'm wondering about just a little is...firmware upgrade for the A1. What will Sony include? Minor stuff like focus breathing compensation, or major stuff like pre-capture.
Jarad, thank you for the video. My fast action these days is really limited to birds in flight and maybe a little sports so for now I’m sticking with my two A1’s for the increased resolution. I clearly have the time to wait for an A1 II I think. Also have other Sony compact “C” bodies that are light weight and great for travel. Also shoot Canon so maybe a R5 II or R1 my tweet my interest. Stayed away from the R3 because it’s reduced resolution since the A1 spoiled me. Take care.
Good comparison.. I'll stick with my Olympus OM-1's. I had to chuckle when you 'introduced' Pro-Capture mode as Olympus calls it -- it has had that feature for years; along with HHHR ( Hand Held High Resolution{Rez} Mode) -- which is quite usable.
I am waiting for A1 II. I use old A7R III for portraits, for sport and concert photography. In sport i love cropping so i need more Mpx and for dark club concerts i need best ISO. A1 is amazing but A9 III is more amazing but i need more Mpx so i wait for A1 II.
Thank you for this in depth feature comparison review. Coming from the A7RV "dedicated A.I. chip" I am actually skeptical about the A9 III performance since I find though the subject recognition and tracking are accurate and sticky in the EVF most of the time I ended up with less hit rate (100% focus & sharp) than the A7IV it replaced with even after fine tuning the different complicated parameters from the default settings. It was like the brain is too smart and fast for the aging but more usable mechanical shutter, sensor readout and blackout time so I call it my beloved ADHD camera. I purchased a used A1 now and the hit rate is excellent which brings me to the subject that it would be wonderful if your personal experience on the hit-rates are also included in this comparison. At the end of the day, the hit rate of the final sharp images is what matters for anyone who purchase a camera regardless what year, generation, lists of technical or marketing slogans used to attach us to empty our wallet (I felt for it for the A7RV🤣). Just a suggestion.
I’m inclined to wait for the A1 II mainly for the resolution but I have seen what the A9 III is capable of. The AF is the best I have ever seen and like you said this is the best feeling camera ergonomically out there. The tech pack has got to be in the new A1 II which I hope Sony announces soon. With that said, I picked up the new 300 2.8 with the 1.4 and 2.0 TC and have literally ditched my 200-600. Combined with the A9 III I keep thinking this lens would be the ultimate pairing but then again I feel Sony has to come out with the new A1 II soon with all of the features of the A9 III and more. What a dilemma. Who knows what will happen for us who are impatient. 🤔
The low $3k range? You’re going to be waiting another 5 years… the Sony a9 ii used goes for $2200-$2600. The a9 ii was released October 2019 with an MSRP of $4,500… So 5 years and decreased by lets call it $2k of and no more software updates either 🫤 A used a1 is still going for $5,249-$5,799… and it was released 3 years ago… so a decrease of about $600-$1200 in 3 years… at that rate you’ll need another 6 years for it to get into the $3k range.
A1 at ISO 100(min value) is one stop better than A93 at ISO 250 (min value). Both at ISO 250 has the same DR. There could be also a bit different ISO to noise ratios but not sure.
Tbh, I'm still trying to work out what the point of the A9iii is tbh outside of a niche group. At best, it's a stop gap until the a1ii comes out...I'd love to know how the sales go.
Depends on the scenario but A93 is not for IQ. It is still very good but a1, a7, a7r have better IQ. Z8/9 have also better IQ. But there are scenario is where IQ from a93 will be always better because of lack of distortions. And speed gives you more chance to get the photo you want.
That 2000 base iso for video in Slog3 might be a problem for some people, curious to see what that is going to look like. Some cool tech, but that's an awfully expensive package.
Right on. it is a stupid spend money problem ... after taxes and memory cards..i'm looking at $8,200 to $9,000.00 - commie taxes in my state. .... have to be an idiot with money or a corp sponsored to burn money like that. HELLLLLL NOOOOOOO to sony. Sony's ergonomics just kinda caught up to Nikon / Canon of 6 years ago with sony's Sh*tty rear screen in 2024 get the new fat bigger body.
The A1 always starts with 14bits also on compressed raw. After the compression you and up with about 13bits same as the A9III when using compressed raw. All the old cameras used a 12bits container for compressed raws the A1 and later highend sony cameras do not. Kind of amazing that after 2 years many people still don't see that there are 2 versions of the lossy compressed in sony cameras..
@froknowsphoto , i currently shoot with an A7Riv and an A9. I'm looking at both of these as an addition or possible replacement to my superb but heavily used and worn A9 (250000+ shots so far). What do you think i should do. I'm leaning towards the A9iii
Every time new cameras come out, we are all amazed at the technological advancements. Pros and people with money are probably having a lot of fun with these cameras. As an amateur and as a retiree, my budget is limited. I had to sell some older pieces of gear in order to help finance the purchase of the new at the time A7RV. I am not into video so, for me, it is the perfect camera. I hope my joy of using it will last a few years.
I've been using Sony Mirrorless since 2015. I have been using their point-n-shoot cameras since 2005. I can only relate to Sony about this and not Canon and Nikon since i dont follow their roadmaps anymore. But one thing is certain about Sony is that these new technological advancements will come to all of their cameras. When the A9 was released back in 2017, we got those features in the a7Riii and a7iii. Only missing features were the stacked cmos sensor and 20 fps burst.
Your a7RV is a superb mirrorless camera that the a7RIV should have been. It will last year 10-15 years and stay relevant too. It's the perfect Rolling Shutter a7R model and I think Sony maxed it out. So how do Sony top their a7RV model? Likely the future a7RVI is going to be a Global Shutter sensor and be more pricier at $4,500 usd price tag. Other than that, your a7RV will give you years of joy so shoot away.
@Broskisnowski I could have but didn't. At 70 years of age, my shaky hands and failing eyesight appreciate the state-of-the-art AI autofocus immensely. The extra expense was worth it.
@Broskisnowski Heck no dude! It's more like 60% of the a7RV. A7RIV doesn't have 10-bit colors, A.I. autofocus, tilt & flip LCD, and so much more. A7RIV is not even worth getting anymore. It's either A7Riii or a7RV.
@harryvuemedia5106 yes I recently got a7rv for sports, portraits and occasional birding
My mate has a7riv and the 5 is so much better and he is jeoulous as
Add to the fact you can crop very well ect to. Even though 10 fps I'm having no issues at sport with it even though i would like 15 to 20 fps. This is why I got r5 I stead of a9iii and will hold out and save that money for a1 ii
@@MRBuDWiZe Great choice! Yes, i disliked the a7Riv as I felt like Sony only released it to get a 61 mp sensor out and a new body. It's basically an a7Riii with more mega pixels. I would only buy an a7Riv if its $2,400 usd brand new or $2,00 usd used. I feel like the a7Riv is the least innovate model out of the entire a7R lineup.
For sur i plan to pickup an a7RV in the future as well. Its the perfect Rolling Shutter R model now. And I do think sony will make the future a1-ii a global shutter. Will be pricey though, im guessing $7,500 usd easily. Keeping it at that price tag will not devalue the A1 and A9iii greatly. Expensive but global shutter is just too damn good.
i shoot with the A1 and have no thoughts in buying the A9iii the A1 is a nut machine i love the 50mp , the speed, the serious fexibility of the camera for stills and video
We must be using our cameras differently
@@303badassboxer you tried turning it on? 😂 i shoot studio, wildlife, portraiture, real-estate, landscapes, sports, motorsport, lowlight, pretty much a mix of everything and also video including utilising 4k120 and hd240 a lot of the time. The sony A1 is an incredible tool. Also shooting with it for 2 years and over 150000 shots its only used its mechanical shutter 137 times.
Aaayyyyyoooooo I beg ya pardon?
I have had an A1 since they first came out. I will keep it along with my new A9III that can do things the A1 will never be able to do, just a fact. . I also have A7RV for what it does. Many pro sports shooters and wildlife shooters already love the A9III. 50 A9III covered the Super Bowl alone. Use what you have and be happy. I will be happy with all three of my Sonys. Cheers
@@6gwilliams same as the a1 can do things many other cameras cant either. all depends on our needs.. for me the A1 does pretty much everything i need to work daily and yep the a9111 is incredible but i dont need it. i used to have the a7riv great camera but realised 50mp is the sweet spot for resolution and the A1 is now where i am. enjoy your cameras
Still comparing the A1 with other cameras three years after release 😎 What a great camera.
after taxes and memory cards..i'm looking at $8,200 to $9,000.00 - commie taxes in my state. .... have to be an idiot with money or a corp sponsored to burn money like that. HELLLLLL NOOOOOOO to sony. Sony's ergonomics just kinda caught up to Canon of 6 years ago with sony's Sh*tty rear screen in 2024
@@j.kimmer1509 6 years ago? my 10D from 2002 felt better than my A1 :) I HATE flip out screens so that rules canon out. They also have no 24 35 50 or 85 f1.4's in fact no pro 35 at all and their widest prime is a cheap 16 f2.8. Up to 300mm I think Sony have the best lens options.
@@j.kimmer1509I bought mine used like new for $4500 after tax. Sucks to be you.
It still is one of the best cameras out!
I have the A1 and bought the A9iii. For me, the flip screen, precapture, latest AF system, the newer still/vid/S&P selector, a "*" on the dial for stills framerates so they can be adjusted digitally with bottons, and general speed of the camera itself is enough to have be selling my A1. (formatting a card is almost instantaneous and buffer dumping to a v90 card is extremely fast). There are a lot of usability upgrades that has close to doubled the speed i can operate. I pretty much always shoot at RAW lossless M anyway on my A1. I should say that i have an A7RV for work where i need the extra MP. i am very impressed with this new A9iii.
Thank you ,I will get the 9 111
Nice, could you continue making videos, and use these cameras, please? 👍
No concerns about the sensor size?
@@DarrellWingerak if you are talking about megapixels.. no.. otherwise, they are both full frame and deliver similar results in the end. you'd be hard pressed to see the difference.
The A9iii is fantastic! I ordered right away. I shoot action and had two A9 bodies (I love the a9 series and couldn’t wait). In my opinion and for what I do 50mp isn’t needed, 24 is more than enough. The A9 iii doesn’t miss in any lighting situation. I don’t care about 250 iso it just bumps my shutter even more. 135 1.8, 50 1.2. It doesn’t miss.
Hey Jared. I have an A1 but bought an A9iii. I love the 50Mega Pixels of the A1 but for shooting sports the A9iii had some distinct advantages for sports such as baseball. Ball going into the glove every time. Bat on ball just about all the time. Global shutter so no bent hockey stick on slap shots. Those are just a few off the top of my head. Hope to see you in Philadelphia soon. Thanks for what you do.
Do you mind the downgrade in megapixels? I probably wouldn't mind it given the benefits the A9iii provides and the smaller file sizes is convenient. I usually don't care for high megapixels however when I get a high megapixel camera, I usually get it for that reason.
I think both are valid options for general use. I would consider the A9 for sports, since no bending whatsoever is a really nice feature
The crop option with my a1 is AMAZING, absolutely love having options.
I have the A1 and the A9III, but I find myself picking up the A9 the most. It feels so good in the hand and I love the screen.
I have the A1 and will be waiting on the A1 II
I have the Sony A1 and I have been using it for a couple of years. I am perfectly happy with the camera and now focusing solely on my photography itself. Don't get me wrong I like looking at the new cameras that Sony is coming out with, but nothing more than that.
We need pre-capture on the A1
They will save that for the a1 II.
I’m guessing an additional processor for AI AutoFocus too. 🤷♂️
I watched a bird photographer with the A9III, the FPS was insane. Now for years I’ve said if you can’t get a great shot with a 10FPS camera then go home. But this has changed my mind, this guy was getting so many open wing options it was unreal.
I just got an A1 after waiting a long time for the release of the A9III. I could not justify the money for a camera with image quality no better and maybe slightly worse than my 2017 A9. The 50MP of the A1 offers something different for me. No one is talking about moiré , some say the A9III will be better others say no. moiré is a major problem when shooting in front of large led screens. Keep up the good work on the pod casts, LOVE THEM :)
Once you go 50mp it's really hard going back. The only con is the file size. I love my A1.
As an A1 shooter and wildlife photographer I’m sticking with my 50mp at 30fps. Cropping is important in my world and 24mp is too much of a step backwards even with all the awesome tech.
I have both, the A1 and A9III. So I just chose the one, that is more suitable for the job.
I got A1. I was using A7R series before, starting from R I all up to A7R IV. The A1 is perfect due to it's ALL in one features. A1 II with global shutter 8K 60P and same Dynamic Range, is way more enough for me to upgrade! Camera is awesome. and I can't wait for a March huge firmware update. Hopefully they can finnally add Webcam mode, so I can use bloody $6500 camera, to connect my Xperia as an External Monitor, what Sony officially advertises, but I can't do it, cause I paid the most for the camera!!!!
Thanks Jared Polin, I own A1, A9III, A7RV so I have all the best of all of them. FYI, I bought all three of them from Allen's Camera , my fav mom and pop dealer . I am a former longtime Philadelphia Inquirer staffer, freelancing now and teaching as a Professor of Photography at a state university. Cheers
Still desperately hanging on to my A7III until it takes a shit on me
I am with you. I have 2 A7III for my A and B camera. I think the best buy for a Sony.
You are the smart man.!!!! save your money and buy the A1 in 3 years.... i just picked up a "like new" A7ii or $400.00 ..... just wait, don't be the donkey that burns money $$ 8,200.00 after taxes and one memory card....HELLLLLLLL NOOOOOOOO
@@j.kimmer1509 It is what you want in your workflow. Most hyper expensive new ones aren't always it. I have been a Sony shooter for a long time. 6400, a7r ii, and a7ii and the original RX10 delivered all the time. I wanted the battery life and focus engine of the a7iii. Now the deal. 99% of my cameras and lenses are used. There is no way I can do this otherwise. $6000.00 for a body is out of the question. First I am not a paid professional, 2nd I just know my needs, and what I do. I have a friend who likes Nikon. He wants to stay out of national debt. Doesn't care about mirrorless. Cool he shoots a used D7200, and loves it. Full Frame was not a big for him. Options with lenses with the money you save on the body.
I'm still on an a7ii lol
The A7iii still an amazing camera. If someone can't shoot awesome pictures with this, the problem isn't on the gear.
For non global shutter Sony cameras you can hold the camera upside down to get the bowing of things such as bats or golf clubs to appear more realistic. The samples in this video do look off because the bowing is going the wrong direction relative to motion.
A1 best all arounder. Just so incredibly expensive, before adding lenses.
I want it, but for $3k less I can get pretty close performance with Canon R5 system refurbished with 1 yr warranty
Still expensive but you are able to find A1's for under $4500 now in like new condition. They are slowly coming down in price!
after taxes and memory cards..i'm looking at $8,200 to $9,000.00 - commie taxes in my state. .... have to be an idiot with money or a corp sponsored to burn money like that. HELLLLLL NOOOOOOO to sony. Sony's ergonomics just kinda caught up to Canon of 6 years ago with sony's Sh*tty rear screen in 2024
Good detailed comparison, thanks Jared.
One small thing about the A1 (and later Alpha cameras) that has made a difference to my workflow is the mechanical shutter closing to prevent dust getting to thee sensor when changing lenses. The A9III doesn't have a mechanical shutter, so it can't do this. In its use case for sports though, photographers probably won't change lenses that often. It is another tick against it as a general purpose work tool though. I shoot with the A1, I need the megapixels and IQ more than the speed it has but it sure is a fast camera when I do need it. The A9 III looks like an awesome action camera, but I am in the" wait for the A1 II" camp.
As a person that photographs mostly wildlife, and ends up cropping most of my photos, I chose the a1 just last week. If the a9 would have had a bump in megapixels to say 33mp, I would have been all over it. It helped that there was a trade deal that dropped the price for the a1 from $6500 down to $5200.
I really love the new body design for the α9 III - can't wait to see that "trickle down" to the next regular/midrange α7 camera. To me that sort of stuff is more my speed than getting the expensive pro sports cameras I don't need the capability of. An α1 II with basically all of these upgrades but with the original α1 sensor (which is still INCREDIBLE by the way...Sony has it in their flagship professional cinema cameras the Venice 2 and Burano) sounds like a banger of a camera.
I shot the A9iii today at an air show and maybe it’s cause I shoot on a point and shoot day to day, but the experience was elite
I shoot wildlife photography but I'm undecided what I want. The A1 sounds great but I also like what the A9 iii brings. Currently have a Sony a7 II and would like to upgrade
coming from canon... will you keep using the r3? are you switching?
I'm buying the Sony A9 III for my TH-cam channel, thanks for the great video, I was thinking of making the transition to 8K, but really plan on waiting until RTX 5090 NVIDIA GPU releases, when the processing power for 8k improves I'm going to pair the hardware with a Sony Burano 8K and Inspire 3 8K to film at 60 fps - 120 fps. Having a more powerful graphics card is important, as the render times for my projects at 4K have started to hit 3 hours mainly due to the use of slow-mo and hyper-lapse effects, if I were to stack added frames at a higher resolution I doubt the render times will look all that great.
For now, I'm thinking of filming primarily on a Sony A9 III and a DJI MAVIC 3 PRO by end of year at 4k 120 fps. My budget for extra film gear sits at around $10,000. So, I've mostly been focused on improving the visual quality at 4K videography and found the Sony A9 III to be the correct choice given my current PC hardware being a bottleneck for 8K video capture.
When the price of 8k TVs drop to $999 I might switch to an Alpha 1 II series when it comes out, or try to make the jump to a Sony Burano 8K at $25,000. Paired with Inspire 3 at $15,000 to go for that true cinematic look on my VLOG series at 8K with high frames. I just feel nervous to try and film at really high frames and then edit 8k frames without a next-generation Nvidia card, and I already budgeted for an RTX 4080 to make the switch to higher FPS 4k video, which will already cause the video size to be about 4x larger due to having 4x the frames from 25 fps to 120 fps. Simply increasing the fps for rendering purposes and my use of slow and hyperlapse capture in my video series is going to cause too much of a demand on my PC hardware to where my render times could go from 3 hours to 12 hours on an RTX 2060, which is why I'm hoping that my budget for an RTX 4080 to be sufficient to handle the added FPS from 4K 120.
Even so, I find myself filming at a 4K XAVC 25p and a lot of people don't even do that in LA for their VLOGs or film outside their homes. In other words, for the sake of broad action videography for my VLOG, and having environmental flexibility, I prefer editing outside of a cine-grade tone, and prefer preset color defaults that work with minimal visual distortions and without rolling shutter effect to take into consideration limited lighting control, or control over lighting in environment. It's why cinema cameras are great if you have control over environmental lights, but when running and filming and videoing you might not have control over physical lighting when compared to cinema sets, journaling and vlogging are so different and requires added flexibility in frame. It's why ZV-E10 did so good with VLOGs on TH-cam, and it's what I use to film currently.
But, I plan on making the switch to Sony A9 III and will pair with a DJI Mavic 3 PRO to create a more powerful visual image with an emphasis on 120 FPS being the transition point in my VLOG series... I also pair this with an upgrade to an RTX 4080 soon, which should power my video editing as I make the transition from 4K 25p to 4k 120p quality video on my TH-cam series with zero rolling bar effect due to global shutter providing added flexibility when filming everywhere across the USA and from where I live in Los Angeles. I really appreciate the review, it makes me a little more confident with what little budget I have for equipment this year... some might say my $10,000 budget is massive, but it only covers one camera sensor, one drone, one laptop, and a couple camera accessories (lenses and etc). It's very competitive when compared to the gear set-ups for most amateurs, but it's still a mile away from the quality achieved from studio level equipment like a Sony Burano or Venice 2. That being said, I'm sure I'll get my hands on a Burano if I work hard enough over the next 24 months.
Damn bro nice summary!
I currently have both R5 and A1 and looking to sell A1 when R5 II is released BUT in order for that to happen it’s going to need the following:
- Similar screen to the A9 III
- Dual CF B slots (a boy can
dream)
- Full size HMDI (now I’m just
crazy)
- Variable Shutter
- Oh and a stacked sensor
If Canon fails me I will not be buying the R5 II and keep my Sony A1.
Hey Sony! BTW where’s the new firmware update?
Do you have a lot of sony lenses? It hard for me to switch to other companies because of the investment I have on my lenses. The A1 has been good enough for me.
So, what did you? Sold the A1?
Nobody asked 🤣
@@Grr8jon I have mostly canon glass but also have a a few Sony lenses as well.
@@Chopper153 I ended up Selling my A1 and R5 and went with dual R5 II’s for events because of pre capture. I’m not happy about the memory card slots and the low light Dynamic range is really bad I have to use Denoise often. The screen still sucks. Looking forward to the A1 II rumors.
That's a very good breakdown / comparison. Thanks, very helpful.
I just got the A9 III and was wondering why I waited so long. Analysis Paralysis and overthinking the Resolution Yada Yada issues. Hey this camera rocks. That’s all I can say. I also ended up getting the A7RV for stills work and feel like I’m set for speed, sports, portrait and landscapes with my 2 new bodies. I sold my trusty A7 IV and will miss it but look forward to moving forward. When the A1 Mark II comes out I’ll cross that bridge when it does. In the meantime I’m loving these two systems with my Sony GM lenses!
Grateful to have Sony lend me the a9M3, I was excited about these specs and now I have it in my hands. I’m at Track and Field Olympic trials, so these athletes move fast and critical to get the sweet spot over hurdles, so was looking forward to the 120fps. It’s fast, global shutter is fast. But this auto focus tracking is slow and can’t keep up with these athletes, so many out of focus shots as they are running their events. Also between the sensor and its inability to shoot low light, I lost so many shots. Found myself switching bodies while on the field because I felt like the a9M3 was failing me.
I look forward to a1M2 whenever that comes out, but I’m sticking with the a1 family.
Hey, so I've heard many times that the a9III focussing ability were quite better than that of the A1. You confirm your experience was in fact just the opposite? The A1 was able to keep up with the track and fields athletes and was significantly better at forussing in low light? Is that right?
Having this A9iii for about a week. Well.. You can say that as a sports content creator, this camera is unbelievable. The features and the feeling working with is so good(especially the grip). 😮💨
Totally!!!
Welcome to the ergonomics of Nikon and Canon 6 years ago.
@@j.kimmer1509how many times you gonna comment that?
@@j.kimmer1509welcome to autofocus of sony 2018 😂
amazing video as usual...!
got a quick question, im a hybrid shooter , enthusiaatic for that matter.
I love shooting birds and view shots and street photgraphy., as well as good video.
Im seating on the fence for some time now trying to decide if i should get the canon R3 or the sony a9iii.
what do u think ? which hsould i get Jared, help ! im dying here !
mony or lense is not an issue.
I shoot wildlife and haven't picked up the A1 since I got the A9 III - it's truly a BEAST !
That’s because it’s your newer camera and you’re most interested in using it.
@@tdawg719 Nope, it's just nicer all around to use and like jp I don't crop much so 50mp turned out to be less important than I though it would be.
@@duncangroenewald Ditto! I quickly adjusted to doing more "in-camera" cropping!
@@tdawg719 becasue its a global shutter sensor. Distortion, flickering and jello free pictures. It's the 3 biggest pet peeves when using an E-shutter.
Both are amazing! I'm still on a7ii :(
I love your videos been watching them forever and don’t comment much. Thanks from Ireland 👍🏻
Great video as I was looking at the A9III and the A1. I shoot a little of everything but love to shoot sports. I feel if the A1II was out I could decide, but that isn’t an option… so what to do?
For the money I think I am going with the A7CII for now and wait for the A1II.
I have the A1. Got an A7Vr - for the flippy screen. I love the A9iii for the pre capture. I don't find the 15 frames per second with 3rd party lenses to be an issue - right now I am shooting Low for multi shot. Insects since spring has started, soon I will be shooting bird shots. I have the Sony 200-600 and 100-400 for when I decide to do 120 frames per second.
Do you still get the pre capture with third party glass ??
I own A7iv & I love it 🙃🤗
Cheers Jarad, another good review. If you could offer your opinion, A1 vs A9iii when shooting aircraft or wildlife with the 200-600mm? Trade off between ISO and resolution? Have you any comparable experience? Thanks 🙏🏻
Pre capture is amazing to use when shooting lightning. That is what I use on the iPhone to photograph lightning.
A9III purely for the flip out screen. I do a lot of video so that multi-angle screen is better for me.
I am an A1 owner. What I want is an affordable 800mm prime just like the Nikon 800mm PF Lens. That is all. Good day.
I have both cameras. Great A/B setup. Replaced a RED Raptor and Canon R5C for these. A1 8K is a great interview A cam for cropping and A9iii is wonderful for b-roll.
I already have the a9 (gen. 1) and the a1. a9 will be replaced by the a9III this year. a1 will be kept for sure
I have both the A7S3 and the A7R5. At roughly 50% of the cost, either would make a great 2nd camera to back up either the A9iii or A1.
if the a7III / IV doesn’t cut it for your professional shooting - the a9III is all you need. can’t convince me otherwise. you can crop in w/ sharp 24mp photos. aside from that it’s better in every way for my money. plus i’d be curious as to what they put in the a9 II
The a9iii and a1 are the only Sony bodies with the smarts and parts for serious sports photography.
For the most part, the Sony lineup seem made for journalists, wedding and portrait photographers,, anything but for action photography.
I’m switching from Nikon to Sony. Thanks for your review! I think I’ll be getting the A9III. I was on the fence but this pushed it over
Back in 2014, if someone told me a camera in 2024 could shoot 120fps, I would have never believed them... Global shutter tech is insane
Please let the A1 2 have the 50.1mp and global shutter
@@RyanREAXDon't bet on that!
@@RyanREAX dont hate on my dreams. it would be the ultimate camera for me.
I have the A1 and the A7RV . I am thinking of trading in my A1 for the A9 v3 . I will keep my A7RV regardless. Thanks for all opinions
Jared, come on back to the Sony fold.
Both are pretty impressive, The global shutter is most impressive for Sports shooters and an easy buy. For more general shooting I would stick with the A1
OH HELL NO. after taxes and memory cards..i'm looking at $8,200 to $9,000.00 - commie taxes in my state. .... have to be an idiot with money or a corp sponsored to burn money like that. HELLLLLL NOOOOOOO to sony. Sony's ergonomics just kinda caught up to Nikon & Canon of 6 years ago with sony's Sh*tty rear screen in 2024
@@j.kimmer1509 I'm no where in the A1+A93 price range. My humble A6400 keeps me plenty happy for under $1000.
I wonder what camera producers gonna do in next years because what we have now already surpasses anyone needs in terms of performance. 120 fps shooting - you can make a movie gif with this. Maybe night vision iso ranges ;)
I have both cameras and I love the a9iii, the 8 stops of images stabilization for low light , the 4k over sampled with no crop , pre capture , ai chip for focus tracking , 80,000 ss and the flash at any speed , better ergo and better color science , more buttons to customize and the list goes on .
THANK YOU SO MUCH for such a great comparison and for your opinions and insights. Out company is buying a Sony FX3 for events but I will now probably be buying the A9 III personally primarily as a shooter but also able to take beautiful videos as long as the rest of my build supports it.
I got my a9iii on the release date and as a portrait shooter I prefer the 24mp sensor and am very happy with all the shoots I have shot so far
Interesting choice for a portrait shooter.
@@markrigg6623 for weddings it’s better smaller files , not too much details, flash sync and so on just what I like
For me personally Id go with the A9 III. For high resolution I already have my still capible but a couple generations old A7R III.
On a side note, do those new adaptive presets work in LR Mobile? If so then I will be adding FroPack 4 to my FroPack1,2 and 3.
Love the sense of humor, keep it up! (Yes, I set myself up for that one)
Imo the A1 is more compelling for anyone who is not exclusively a sports shooter. The A1 can bridge the gap to sports better than any camera not an A9III with a global shutter (maybe an R3)
But the A9III can’t do high res shots, it’s not a great studio camera for that reason. While the slags sync speed is better, if you’re in a controller studio environment you shouldn’t be exceeding what the A1 can do anyways
imo, for video, I prefer 8K 24 and low iso than no rolling shutter. Some of the best cinema cameras in the world are not global shutter yet. Low iso for video and resolution imo is more important than a marginal increase in rolling shutter performance. Yeah it has “none” but the A1 has such minimal rolling shutter in 8k and 4K it’s almost negligible.
And many videographers who aren’t solo run and gun shooters won’t care about the AF improvements as they’ll have rigs with manual focus pulling or gears of some sort.
Probably not buying either of these cameras, but I always appreciate your perspective and analysis, especially in these comparisons. Thanks man.
Just made the jump to Sony mirrorless with an a9ii from a Nikon D7000. Would love to pick up an A1, but that is not in my budget. Sill need to get more lenses, only working with the 70-200 GMII and a Sigma 150-600 EF lens with an adapter.
I love Jared’s hope that Sony add features through firmware updates on flagships!!! He’s funny and a dreamer 😂
Nice review, I'll be sticking with the A1 however if I had the funds I'd likely pick up an A9 III as a second body to have the best of both worlds as I do sometimes require the extra mp for cropping, and want the 100 base ISO for landscapes.
It might be worth mentioning that the 1/80000 shutter is not available with lenses wider than f1.8 and is limited to 1/16000 which could cause issues shooting at f1.2 and f1.4 with a base ISO of 250.
Just sold my a7r4 and cr to get the a1 cant belive how amazing this af is over either of these. So i cant imagine the a93 as i had the a92
Thanks for this comparison Jared! I am a sports shooter and have been using the A1 as my main camera for the past year while having the original A9 as my second body. When the A9iii was released, I pondered whether to purchase it and use it along side the A1... Certainly going to wait at this point until Sony releases the A1ii before replacing my original A9.
In the good old days a reasoably good dslr would last many years before they areconsidered old before being replaced by a newer model, but now anything more than 2 years is considered "old" for morrorless, especially for flagship modles, and they are also a lot kore expensive too.
When i bought yhe A9ii (upgraded from the A7iii) 3 years years ago, i thought that's probably my last that will last me for the rest of my photography journey, but as it turns out, i am begining to see why its falling behind in terms of design and capabilities.
As I am now starting to look out for a 40-ish MP sensor fullframe to compliment my A9ii, neither the A9iii nor the A1 fits my needs, Even after watching this video (not that this video is bad), i am still not convinced that either of the camera is for me, because one is "old" tech with less than ideal LCD resolution (just to mentuon one of the many old tech design) while the other doesnt have the pixel count (for those who is already using a 24MP body).
I guess as the battle to dominate the FF indistry between the 3 big brands continues, consumers like us will just have to be mentally prepared that whatever is going to come out next (be it the A1ii, or the A7v), they won't stop there, and the change will only be faster and more expensive.
I am an event shooter btw.
sold buying it ! thank you great video
I wait for the A1II
Hey Jarod- which one would you grab to shoot a concert or theatre production?
Jared if you had a choice between these 2 cameras for doing birds and butterflies which one would it be .
I have to have pre-capture. I have it on my Olympus cameras...and I want it for use with my Sony glass. What I'm wondering about just a little is...firmware upgrade for the A1. What will Sony include? Minor stuff like focus breathing compensation, or major stuff like pre-capture.
Doug Mills showed the capabilities of the 120 fps pre capture
Jarad, thank you for the video. My fast action these days is really limited to birds in flight and maybe a little sports so for now I’m sticking with my two A1’s for the increased resolution. I clearly have the time to wait for an A1 II I think. Also have other Sony compact “C” bodies that are light weight and great for travel. Also shoot Canon so maybe a R5 II or R1 my tweet my interest. Stayed away from the R3 because it’s reduced resolution since the A1 spoiled me. Take care.
Good comparison.. I'll stick with my Olympus OM-1's. I had to chuckle when you 'introduced' Pro-Capture mode as Olympus calls it -- it has had that feature for years; along with HHHR ( Hand Held High Resolution{Rez} Mode) -- which is quite usable.
Fro tells you everything you need to know in the pop ups "Filmed with the Canon R5"
I am waiting for A1 II. I use old A7R III for portraits, for sport and concert photography. In sport i love cropping so i need more Mpx and for dark club concerts i need best ISO.
A1 is amazing but A9 III is more amazing but i need more Mpx so i wait for A1 II.
Thank you for this in depth feature comparison review. Coming from the A7RV "dedicated A.I. chip" I am actually skeptical about the A9 III performance since I find though the subject recognition and tracking are accurate and sticky in the EVF most of the time I ended up with less hit rate (100% focus & sharp) than the A7IV it replaced with even after fine tuning the different complicated parameters from the default settings. It was like the brain is too smart and fast for the aging but more usable mechanical shutter, sensor readout and blackout time so I call it my beloved ADHD camera. I purchased a used A1 now and the hit rate is excellent which brings me to the subject that it would be wonderful if your personal experience on the hit-rates are also included in this comparison. At the end of the day, the hit rate of the final sharp images is what matters for anyone who purchase a camera regardless what year, generation, lists of technical or marketing slogans used to attach us to empty our wallet (I felt for it for the A7RV🤣). Just a suggestion.
me watching this having no money to buy either
Me watching this having just bought the R6 Mark 2 (loving it) and never ever considering a Sony
Have both, they are NOT comparable, different tools for different needs and jobs. Both great and good to have them in my collection ...
I’m inclined to wait for the A1 II mainly for the resolution but I have seen what the A9 III is capable of. The AF is the best I have ever seen and like you said this is the best feeling camera ergonomically out there. The tech pack has got to be in the new A1 II which I hope Sony announces soon. With that said, I picked up the new 300 2.8 with the 1.4 and 2.0 TC and have literally ditched my 200-600. Combined with the A9 III I keep thinking this lens would be the ultimate pairing but then again I feel Sony has to come out with the new A1 II soon with all of the features of the A9 III and more. What a dilemma. Who knows what will happen for us who are impatient. 🤔
im patiently waiting for the A1 to drop a into the low $3k range and then I'll sell my A7iv and upgrade. I want the 50mp for when I crop in
The low $3k range? You’re going to be waiting another 5 years… the Sony a9 ii used goes for $2200-$2600. The a9 ii was released October 2019 with an MSRP of $4,500… So 5 years and decreased by lets call it $2k of and no more software updates either 🫤
A used a1 is still going for $5,249-$5,799… and it was released 3 years ago… so a decrease of about $600-$1200 in 3 years… at that rate you’ll need another 6 years for it to get into the $3k range.
Curious to know, does pre-capture work on the A9iii if you're using back-button focus?
Yes pre capture works with BBF and is initiated by half-press on the shutter release button.
Awesome vid ty. Just bought through your link!
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What about dynamic range? I saw where the Global shutter does not have as much dynamic range. Any dynamic range comparison between the two?
A1 at ISO 100(min value) is one stop better than A93 at ISO 250 (min value). Both at ISO 250 has the same DR.
There could be also a bit different ISO to noise ratios but not sure.
Another amazing video Jared, thank you again!
videography a9III heads down ! Photography A1 is a clear winner on all counts
Tbh, I'm still trying to work out what the point of the A9iii is tbh outside of a niche group. At best, it's a stop gap until the a1ii comes out...I'd love to know how the sales go.
Currently have a z8. Love the camera by the Sony focus is appealing. Is the a93 image quality superior?
Depends on the scenario but A93 is not for IQ. It is still very good but a1, a7, a7r have better IQ. Z8/9 have also better IQ.
But there are scenario is where IQ from a93 will be always better because of lack of distortions. And speed gives you more chance to get the photo you want.
More in focus = better IQ
Little late to the party, but I'm more interested in an A1 vs A7R V comparison
Once again, really good job!
A very clear review.
That 2000 base iso for video in Slog3 might be a problem for some people, curious to see what that is going to look like. Some cool tech, but that's an awfully expensive package.
Right on. it is a stupid spend money problem ... after taxes and memory cards..i'm looking at $8,200 to $9,000.00 - commie taxes in my state. .... have to be an idiot with money or a corp sponsored to burn money like that. HELLLLLL NOOOOOOO to sony. Sony's ergonomics just kinda caught up to Nikon / Canon of 6 years ago with sony's Sh*tty rear screen in 2024 get the new fat bigger body.
The A1 always starts with 14bits also on compressed raw. After the compression you and up with about 13bits same as the A9III when using compressed raw. All the old cameras used a 12bits container for compressed raws the A1 and later highend sony cameras do not. Kind of amazing that after 2 years many people still don't see that there are 2 versions of the lossy compressed in sony cameras..
@froknowsphoto , i currently shoot with an A7Riv and an A9. I'm looking at both of these as an addition or possible replacement to my superb but heavily used and worn A9 (250000+ shots so far). What do you think i should do. I'm leaning towards the A9iii
Question: Who should get an A7R5 instead of A1 or A93?
Do you need the burst rate that the a1 or a9 iii has?
Please make a video on A9iii vs EOS R3
Video on a9iii will better 😂
Shoot a1. Don’t need 120 frames