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For a matter of security, will the drivers have to stay off the kerbs, or will the FIA insist on them being almost flattened? I go back a long way and remember why ground effect was banned - any break in it reduced so much downforce the cars became quite dangerous. Great video. I'm looking forward to these new cars.
Thank you for the great video as always. I am curious about which areas of the car that can be innovated on, and will the resulting cars in 2022 really look like the demo? Or is there a lot of room for changes to the car we see here. I think that would be interesting to explore!
@@sentientspaghetti1898 I think they actually have a team whose job is to specifically search for loopholes and report them. It's the FIA anyway so i don't know if I should trust them
fascinated by ground effect, when well implemented it can literally overcome the structural strength of the vehicle it's so effective. But if they are going full 80's with ground effect and wheel covers, they should really go full Brabham and install a big fan at the rear
With today's technology, a fan car could kill drivers in some F1 course turns with the G force it would create. The Red Bull X2010 (and all the variations after it) used in race sims generates lethal G force over the course of a race. Or this might have been on the table for a 2022 design.
@@cbt711 They should give the drivers G-Suits that compress the drivers legs like fighter pilots have. Then they could brake way harder without greying out; and steroids and amphetamines to speed their reactions up, and combat the fatigue. I don’t want to see the limits of a regular human. I want to see majestic, chemically enhanced weapons doing battle with physics.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks cars will lose a couple seconds as they usually do on major regulation changes but give them 2 or 3 years of development and they will be faster than current
Was watching curious about the explanation of why the curved wing is GENIUS, then I saw my 3D model and animation at 5:35 !! Thanks, love from Romania!
We've heard a lot of FOM rhetoric about the 2022 regs before, so this explanation is greatly appreciated! I needed a breakdown like this, because everything I'd read or seen up until now just felt like "aero magic".
I have a little question: If the dirty air is guided upwards by the rear wing, what would happen in wet conditions? The little water droplets would be lifted even higher than they are today, so could this lead to even more misty conditions that stay in place for longer time?
That would be better than what's actually happening. If a driver follows another driver in wet he cant see shit. If ur idea actually works it should help
Yes the car behind can drive longer in corner close, when there is a lot reduce in the downforce, so its not so much harder to drive behind close, than before.
Short answer: Not currently implemented. With the new F1 car design most of the downforce is now generated through ground effects which first came into prominence in the 70s the most notable example being the BT46B aka the Fan car. Ground effects is being used in LM cars as it generates a greater downforce than a wing alone with some cars even opting to remove the wing entirely however that's mainly due to limitations due to regulations a wing is still good. DRS is only useful for the straights as the new wing doesn't give no where near as much downforce as the current mechanical wing which opens up to reduce drag (DRS). To add DRS to the new wing design they will have to add more mechanical parts making the car heavier and it will not have as big of an impact as it does when compared to the current wing design so arguably DRS is not necessary for the next season of racing.
Maybe not,like the hybrid motors are getting better,the Drs wing part was over rated.i think 2022 is over with too much down force and dirty air will be a thing of the past.
After the season finale. I really hope Aston, Haas and Ferrari were putting a ton of time in development to explain their performance this season. I expect to see some wins from Vettel, Leclerc, and Sainz combined, and podiums from Schumi, Stroll, and possible Mazepin as he’s outperformed Schumi in some tracks (albeit very rarely.)
Awesome! You nailed it with a pretty accurate description of how the airflow generates downforce. The most common mistake is to say that the low and high pressure difference generates all downforce, or lift at airplanes. But it's so much more complex than that.
Well, when he said in the beginning that the air is pushed up and the car is pushed down it kind of felt like newtons (wrong) aerodynamics. But luckily what came after that showed a lot more understanding. It’s a good explanation of the new rules overall and it seems F1 should put more effort into explaining them to the fans
@@_Dibbler_ Newton’s understanding of aerodynamics as he described it in Principia is wrong (except for high Machs) but lift is still taught as resulting from his third law, and referred to as Newtonian description of lift, as opposed to the Bernoulli description.
@@KillCamEditoR I dont know who you mean is teaching Newtons 3rd law for lift. I learned it as a difference of pressure, more or less as a result of differences in speed, not by impact and deflection. On a wing airflow is lead up and down, not pushed up and down.
@@_Dibbler_ we’re talking about the same thing. The pressure difference borne by asymmetric sections leads to speed differences, which changes the direction of airflow downwards. This is known as downwash. By definition, (Newton’s 1st law) if an object (in this case a fluid particle) changes direction, it is because a force has acted upon it. Therefore, a force has been applied to the fluid particle, by the wing. Newton’s third law dictates that for any action, there is an equal and opposite reaction : the fluid particle has acted a force onto the wing, lift. That’s the Newtonian explanation for lift. Not as Newton thought it worked. Particles of fluid do not push the wing up. That only works in hypersonic regimes. But it’s still the Newtonian explanation of lift. And it does stem from the Bernoulli pressure difference.
@@yas6757 Well yeah as comment pointed out above. Also they finally set max wheel base in rules. I think Wheelbase is around 3500 (Merc 3700 if i m remembering correct). So yeah at least cars will not get longer.
Seen so many videos about the new regs ever since they got announced in '19 First time i have ever heard someone talk about the wing shape and how it pulls in the air Good video!
Hopefully RB never changes its livery. The entire point of the RB F1 team is to promote.... you guessed it right, Red Bull. Would be stupid if they changed the livery to something else instead of retaining the classic colors
@@Someone25948 they don't have to change the colours to change the livery. You can also change the placement of the Bulls and such. Barely anything has changed these last few years but imho the current livery is hard to beat.
@@mielvanvelzen5967 Hmm is that really a livery change though? Pretty sure most people won't even notice it. Beats the point of changing your livery. Agree with last point
@@Someone25948 i mean any change to the livery is technically a livery change. But you could absolutely make it look very diffrent by taking the bulls away from their current spot and further shifting the balance of the colors.
Outstanding explanation Scott. For those who are interested in watch something similar in the track review the 1982 San Marino GP. No dirty air and drivers fighting for position at high speeds.
This is why i love your channel, all facts and no marketing BS or fluff speaking about how "ACB race team has special secret tech that creates 200% more downforce and half the weight but we can tell you anything about it because we dont know and can only show you the same stock footage over and over again" ....i may have gone on a bit of a rant there.
Thank you for explaining this. I was wondering what that lower wing affect was doing. That is brilliant. Looking forward to next year. Questions - When do the teams get started on the new cars? Is it a set date for everyone? When is that?
The teams are already busy with the development of the new car. They started drawing as soon as the new regulations were specified in 2019 and by now, they have a model in the wind tunnel. But if your question is related to team release dates, I'm not sure if that has a specified date yet. But it's likely februari 2022, just before the wintertests. Like most years.
It is genius if it works as intended to improve racing and overtaking. Of course it's always interesting to see how teams get creative to circumvent the intention of the rules for their benefit and the disadvantage of their competitors following them...
This is great news! Lately I was really starting to wonder why I was watching the race on sundays and skipping the classificatory laps , if those where the ones where the race was being actually decided! I rooting for Alonso on 2022 , I firmly believe his decision making , outside the tracks , has been quite poor during all his career , but as a driver , on equal conditions , he is the best driver on the grid I’m sure about that, but let’s see! I’m excited for the first time, since AMG completely destroyed the other companies in performance.
I can imagine engineers working to actually create dirty air at the back and increase down force loss for the car following, I mean you can't unlearn a concept
@@canismajoris6733 It's only by a bit and it can provide downforce just like current wings. You don't need much to change the air flow at such high speeds. I'm nearly sure rear end of the car will be nearly the same in all teams because of that. Also it's very easy to measure so there should be no "flex wing" situation.
@@RammsteinPTc It's a bit artificial, it's meant to compensate the car behind for the time loss when following another car. The DRS zones are generally tweaked to somewhat reach that. And in practice it somewhat works, but not precisely. It more or less becomes a game of just trying to keep a car behind out of your DRS at the detection point, because if the following car is 1.1 seconds behind it still suffers quite a bit of dirty air, without getting any compensation.
I fear that when they enable a much more closer follow that this will lead to more high speed accidents. Also it is strange that the teams no longer will be able to use their aerodynamicists to develop cars that are different and much more interesting.
I was just thinking how much more badly affected a car would be if it had side contact with a tyre. If the floor isn't working, you're more or less out of the race.
Even tho they have the follow the guidelines the teams can still make slight adjustments and get creative with the details to make sure there car is just a few % better. And in f1 thats all you need to win if your good enough of a driver.
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Mindblowing video, really nice, had no idea about the pushing dirty air upwards feature in the rear of the car, crazy!
Thank you for sharing your insight with us all, I think the new wing looks great! Curious what will happen to DRS for passing, looks like it has been eliminated?!? Thanks again I'm really enjoying your channel! 😎
feels like Im watching Engineering Explained W/Chainbear at the same time ,this really good explanation that contains a lot of racing information along side w/ engineering information ,LOVE YOU GUY ,Thx for this works.
@@mrkic23 question, have you ever watched the “old days?” If you have, then you’d know people have been moaning about it being boring since the start. Take off your rose tinted glasses
Thank you so much for these explanations! Whenever anything happens in F1 I visit here and there's a comprehensive explanation of what occurred and what it means. Really appreciate it. 🙏
As interesting as this is, I'm much more curious about all the clever designs, that the teams will come up with. Though I'm not really looking forward to the "plug the loophole"-war, that will inevitably follow. Would very much prefer for these the clever innovations to remain legal until the end of the season (unless there are safety concerns, obviously).
@@codemy666 The old ground effect tried to redirect all air over the top of the car. This ground effect maneuvers the air that passes under the car to create downforce. It's different.
As a Aeronautical engineer for over 4 decades I really appreciate these aero changes, especially in the wing. The end plates eliminated span-wise flow but as with many aero tweeks its caused other problems. While the downforce on the new wing may washout a bit on corners when the wing experiences sideslip, it stills appears to be a vast improvement over the current wing. I'm interested if there will be a corresponding improvement in cross winds. Engineers love to add devices like rakes, fences, and generators to improve performance, but these in turn cause issues of their own. No free lunch or silver bullets in aerodynamics. I love this formula and we will see which team will learn the fastest to setup this car. Cheers
What causes wing vortices is the pressure differential between low pressure air on the underside of the wing and high pressure air on the top, which is drawn around the ends (tips) of the wings. That would set up a circular flow if the car was stationary. Since the car is moving, that vortex is stretched out behind the car. You can see the same effect on airplane wings if the plane flies through a cloud. The end plates are there to prevent that wing tip vortex from forming. The "tip ups" on the ends of airliner wings do the same thing, "fencing off" high and low pressure air. The vortices that form around a race car's wings are caused by the build-up of air trapped in the corner between the trailing edge of the wing and the end plates. The louvers in the upper end plates are there to allow some of that bunched-up air to escape. In that respect, removing the upper portion of the wing endplates won't harm downforce that much. The best way to reduce the influence of dirty air on a race car is not to fiddle with the wings, but to remove them entirely. Or at least reduce them to the point of being aerodynamic trim tabs. Yes, downforce makes the cars go faster, but is that really a good idea? The best competition in motorsports comes in smaller classes like Formula Ford, where there are no wings at all. Flat-out speed numbers may sound impressive, but I watch racing for competition, not some esoteric engineering fight where most of the competition is in wind tunnel numbers. Faster lap times are only really evident on stop watches. Rates of closure and overtaking are what generate competition. Keep your technological Rubik's Cubes and give us cars that RACE, rather than "generate numbers."
I really like his videos and insights but goddamn does he take long to get to the point. Without all the repeating this video couldve been done in 3 minutes. He literally explained why the rearwing is shaped like it is in minute 6 out of 7. a little bit frustrating
😂 Haha! Remeber it's of utmost importance for him to remind you that at some point in his life, he too was a boy racer. Only then does he get to the point. Eventually.
All the downforce loses in "dirty" air makes the engines job of smashing the car through it easier, with good drafting, hopefully this should make for more overtaking. Brilliantly illustrated at 3:27, you can see the lower pressure behind the side pods of the following car but fascinating to see the difference in air coming off the back of both cars.
Just subscribed and they should really put you in the race booth because the current race announcers no nothing about the technical side of F1. I really miss Steve Matchett in the booth, he was the best.
This was very educational, I imagine engine power is going to be critical next season, being able to catch, follow, pass and possibly fight back will be dependent on engine power or maybe not with far less drag on the cars. Either way I won't be missing a single event.
A good explanation of the new design, and its main purpose being to reduce the effects of ' dirty ' air on following cars. On a slightly different line of reasoning it would be highly desirable IMO to configure the new cars in a way to eliminate the danger of two side by side cars from interlocking wheels - a dangerous and ever-present possibility with the present layout. This could be accomplished simply by having side bars, similar in function to roll bars, however an alternative - following some additional research - side ducts could be designed which have the double function of managing the aerodynamics and also to mechanically preventing two adjacent cars interlocking their wheels. As an afterthought they would also reduce the downstream turbulence of the front wheels.
that is heresy like a driver halo. open-wheeled trucks use side-guards to block the kill-zone between the wheels and increase aerodynamics. so the principal is well-proven. but mortal danger is fashionable. time traveler, your configuration is from a safer future.
Great to see the step forward for facilitating overtaking from the engineering side. Personally I think aesthetically last years cars really peaked, and looked so good. These new cars a bit more an ‘acquired taste’ looks wise...
Im just excited ground effect is back. Late 70s and Early 80s with ground effect gave us one of the most exciting seasons ever. 1982 springs to mind. Im just hoping the new regs repeat the success minus the fatalities ofcourse.
Can you make a video about how driver learn all the various the tracks with all the breaking points and racing lines. Would be super interesting. Especially for those drivers like lewis who don't really use the simulator
Another way to reduce dirty air would have been to increase the end plates of the rear wing. Imposing that they must extend at least 5cm behind and 7cm above the trailing edge, without any opening less than 15 cm from any part of the wing, would dramatically reduce the vortex. That would also reduce the drag.
I seem to recall that back in Murray Walker days getting into the slipstream was the first stage in mounting an overtake. It was certainly true in karting on the long circuits. Then all this aero stuff came along and spoilt it.
Good to see finally the F1 regulators do this because the current rear wings set ups has nothing to do with making the car safer or making the car more efficient. It was a simple way the leading teams could cheat by making the air behind their cars much more unstable for any car trying to overtake thus neutralising reducing dramatically the handling of an opponent. It's one of the many tricks teams used and were for years getting away with cheating . The they discovered in wind tunnel testing deliberately replicated a Jet Wash effect this is when a jet inadvertently crosses over into another jets exhaust path , its dirty air and the aircraft looses its aerodynamic flyability .
First i hated the new design. I thought it was only for looks and was decreasing performance. But after i realized it made alot less dirty air, i've stoked for the introduction!
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What will happen to the DRS System?
Reverse grid qualifying for top ten
For a matter of security, will the drivers have to stay off the kerbs, or will the FIA insist on them being almost flattened? I go back a long way and remember why ground effect was banned - any break in it reduced so much downforce the cars became quite dangerous.
Great video. I'm looking forward to these new cars.
Thank you for the great video as always. I am curious about which areas of the car that can be innovated on, and will the resulting cars in 2022 really look like the demo? Or is there a lot of room for changes to the car we see here. I think that would be interesting to explore!
@@nicholascrow8133 - Reverse grid is manufactured BS and does not belong in F1. How is it even relevant to the Video?
I’m looking forward to seeing the interpretations that the teams come up with 👀
Same, can't imagine how different each car will look compared with the base model
@@JordiR243 surely there will be lots of loopholes the teams will exploit
@@sentientspaghetti1898 I think they actually have a team whose job is to specifically search for loopholes and report them. It's the FIA anyway so i don't know if I should trust them
Wish no 2014 nose like fiasco.
@@sentientspaghetti1898 idk, with the new rules the FIA can ban loopholes at any time I think
fascinated by ground effect, when well implemented it can literally overcome the structural strength of the vehicle it's so effective. But if they are going full 80's with ground effect and wheel covers, they should really go full Brabham and install a big fan at the rear
They're not going full '80s. It's 2021 and they have access to supercomputers that can help create so much more effective ground effect designs.
@@AnttiBrax I meant stylistically..
This is like a ‘ground effect lite’ compared to the 80s
With today's technology, a fan car could kill drivers in some F1 course turns with the G force it would create. The Red Bull X2010 (and all the variations after it) used in race sims generates lethal G force over the course of a race. Or this might have been on the table for a 2022 design.
@@cbt711 They should give the drivers G-Suits that compress the drivers legs like fighter pilots have. Then they could brake way harder without greying out; and steroids and amphetamines to speed their reactions up, and combat the fatigue.
I don’t want to see the limits of a regular human. I want to see majestic, chemically enhanced weapons doing battle with physics.
I bet we are in for a repeat of the 2009 season. Haas gets everything perfect and Nikita Mazepin becomes world champion.
World champion at spinning - sure!
IN PARALLEL UNIVERSE
@@abnfalcon3901 it’s a joke
@@Karlywoo_Plays I MEANT MAZEPIN WOULD BECOME CHAMPION IN PARALLEL UNIVERSE
How much are you willing to bet? I'll give you 10 to 1
I love that the devs finally nerfed the dirty air, I'm really excited for the new meta
The new meta huh🤭
Don't know who said it, think it's Hulkenberg, he said that it wont be easier to overtake this year.
I can't hear dirty air any more without hearing Chainbear's song in my head
🤣😂
I'm glad I missed that video
I can't hear 'dirty air' without thinking of the air quality outside my house due to close by forest fires.
I imagine dirty air like lewd anime air
@@afoxwithahat7846 because some of the air is molesting other air ? I like the way you think !
6:32 Okay, that mitigation of downforce loss is INSANE. 57% loss down to 18% loss?! 2022 will have some damn exciting racing, hopefully!
If they overshoot their target it might be better to be in second than first. We would have a whole Indy Cart oval situation on our hands.
@@GobiLux especially at spa and monza
If Mercedes doesn’t eliminate everyone by then
Expect that difference to be less once teams get to try to exploit the rules.
@@GobiLux cars are getting heavy and wider. Tracks are not, defensive drivers can easily block any attempt
Brilliant video, aerodynamics are fascinating, the new cars look stunning and hopefully improve safety and racing.
Not speed though. Although let's face it, it's racing not time trial.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks cars will lose a couple seconds as they usually do on major regulation changes but give them 2 or 3 years of development and they will be faster than current
@@4zap7 It's worth noting the engine freeze starts 2022 so the season to season gains will be less than previous eras.
@@MrDoItNice good point
A good race is not always dictated by speed, for me
Was watching curious about the explanation of why the curved wing is GENIUS, then I saw my 3D model and animation at 5:35 !! Thanks, love from Romania!
He even gave you credit too. Good guy Driver61. Love the animation!
you made it? it's amazing, well done 👏👍
@@Ahmed.Hadjou Yes, and it's also for free on my YT channel as a 3D Giveaway! Check it out if you want!
Colin chapman: You couldn't deal with your faliure, now return to ground effect.
Simplify and add ground effect.
@@tnexus13 colin chapman was a smart lad
OMEGALUL
Where does that bring you? Back to tunnels.
@@bornanagaming3329 Peugeot lmh 😳😳
We've heard a lot of FOM rhetoric about the 2022 regs before, so this explanation is greatly appreciated! I needed a breakdown like this, because everything I'd read or seen up until now just felt like "aero magic".
I have a little question:
If the dirty air is guided upwards by the rear wing, what would happen in wet conditions? The little water droplets would be lifted even higher than they are today, so could this lead to even more misty conditions that stay in place for longer time?
Imagine that no one thought about it 😂😂
With droplets being lifted higher, might allow better visibility in the wet when following another car closely?!
Guess we'll have to wait and see.
might dry the track quicker??
That would be better than what's actually happening. If a driver follows another driver in wet he cant see shit. If ur idea actually works it should help
4:51 ideal lines at their best
"take the edge off" literally calmer driving less edgy, im excited.
Yes the car behind can drive longer in corner close, when there is a lot reduce in the downforce, so its not so much harder to drive behind close, than before.
This new car, just from a visual standpoint, looks as though it works with the air, rather than against it.
Mate I've been waiting for tech analysis this video is amazing
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@Driver61 I enjoy it
Thx for the vu
Does this wing still have DRS?
I haven't seen any info on this before that's why Im asking
It will in its final iteration.
yes, DRS will still be in place, but the goal is to get rid of it if the cars' concept of better racing pans out
Short answer: Not currently implemented.
With the new F1 car design most of the downforce is now generated through ground effects which first came into prominence in the 70s the most notable example being the BT46B aka the Fan car.
Ground effects is being used in LM cars as it generates a greater downforce than a wing alone with some cars even opting to remove the wing entirely however that's mainly due to limitations due to regulations a wing is still good.
DRS is only useful for the straights as the new wing doesn't give no where near as much downforce as the current mechanical wing which opens up to reduce drag (DRS).
To add DRS to the new wing design they will have to add more mechanical parts making the car heavier and it will not have as big of an impact as it does when compared to the current wing design so arguably DRS is not necessary for the next season of racing.
Maybe not,like the hybrid motors are getting better,the Drs wing part was over rated.i think 2022 is over with too much down force and dirty air will be a thing of the past.
I believe DRS will be a thing until 2023, subject to change depending on how the racing is with the new cars
3:17 Wow that wing sits low.
Looking at the car, it seemed like the rear suspension was sagging. It probably won’t look as low when it’s adjusted properly
@@tyler_bt3326 I hope it will look low. High rear wings are hideous
I’m just waiting for some team to tweak the design and bring back the dirty air for their own advantage.
They won't be allowed. That's the point of the new regulations.
@@bobfg3130 won’t be allowed to make aero changes?
@@mukinfagic69
They will. Just not those.
@@bobfg3130 that's literally what F1 is about. Find holes and grey-zones in the rules to outsmart the FIA and the other teams!
@@GobiLux
They won't bring back the dirty air. They do it and they're disqualified. Forget about the FIA, the other teams are watching.
Fantastic video, never even considered how crucial the rear wing is to the new philosophy. Looking forward to next season and for now, the next race.
After the season finale. I really hope Aston, Haas and Ferrari were putting a ton of time in development to explain their performance this season. I expect to see some wins from Vettel, Leclerc, and Sainz combined, and podiums from Schumi, Stroll, and possible Mazepin as he’s outperformed Schumi in some tracks (albeit very rarely.)
Dream on
Improving overtaking?
Hell yeah I'm all for it!
The new wings look great, and hopefully we'll get to see some exciting races in the future.
Good explanation.
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Tommmmmooooooooo!
Hahaha
Ground Effects are back and better than ever
the most revised areas gonna be:
1) the nose "cape"
2) front & rear brake ducts
3) the outer element (fence) of the tunnel.
Awesome!
You nailed it with a pretty accurate description of how the airflow generates downforce. The most common mistake is to say that the low and high pressure difference generates all downforce, or lift at airplanes. But it's so much more complex than that.
There's many way to explain lift, but it all come down to pressure differential and conservation of momentum.
Well, when he said in the beginning that the air is pushed up and the car is pushed down it kind of felt like newtons (wrong) aerodynamics. But luckily what came after that showed a lot more understanding. It’s a good explanation of the new rules overall and it seems F1 should put more effort into explaining them to the fans
@@_Dibbler_ Newton’s understanding of aerodynamics as he described it in Principia is wrong (except for high Machs) but lift is still taught as resulting from his third law, and referred to as Newtonian description of lift, as opposed to the Bernoulli description.
@@KillCamEditoR I dont know who you mean is teaching Newtons 3rd law for lift. I learned it as a difference of pressure, more or less as a result of differences in speed, not by impact and deflection. On a wing airflow is lead up and down, not pushed up and down.
@@_Dibbler_ we’re talking about the same thing. The pressure difference borne by asymmetric sections leads to speed differences, which changes the direction of airflow downwards. This is known as downwash. By definition, (Newton’s 1st law) if an object (in this case a fluid particle) changes direction, it is because a force has acted upon it. Therefore, a force has been applied to the fluid particle, by the wing.
Newton’s third law dictates that for any action, there is an equal and opposite reaction : the fluid particle has acted a force onto the wing, lift.
That’s the Newtonian explanation for lift. Not as Newton thought it worked. Particles of fluid do not push the wing up. That only works in hypersonic regimes. But it’s still the Newtonian explanation of lift. And it does stem from the Bernoulli pressure difference.
I saw the 2022 car irl at silverstone and it looked beautiful
Sameee so did I
Is it smaller?
@@yas6757 by 200mm Max so not significantly but every little helps.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 200mm is a lot
@@yas6757 Well yeah as comment pointed out above. Also they finally set max wheel base in rules. I think Wheelbase is around 3500 (Merc 3700 if i m remembering correct). So yeah at least cars will not get longer.
Seen so many videos about the new regs ever since they got announced in '19
First time i have ever heard someone talk about the wing shape and how it pulls in the air
Good video!
The red bull with that livery looked amazing. Hopefully new car new livery its a little over due at this point
Hopefully RB never changes its livery. The entire point of the RB F1 team is to promote.... you guessed it right, Red Bull. Would be stupid if they changed the livery to something else instead of retaining the classic colors
@@Someone25948 they don't have to change the colours to change the livery. You can also change the placement of the Bulls and such. Barely anything has changed these last few years but imho the current livery is hard to beat.
@@mielvanvelzen5967 Hmm is that really a livery change though? Pretty sure most people won't even notice it. Beats the point of changing your livery. Agree with last point
@@Someone25948 i mean any change to the livery is technically a livery change. But you could absolutely make it look very diffrent by taking the bulls away from their current spot and further shifting the balance of the colors.
@@mielvanvelzen5967 I didn't understand what you mean by shifting the color balance
Outstanding explanation Scott. For those who are interested in watch something similar in the track review the 1982 San Marino GP. No dirty air and drivers fighting for position at high speeds.
Damn that Red Bull concept looks amazing 😍😍😍
No
This is why i love your channel, all facts and no marketing BS or fluff speaking about how "ACB race team has special secret tech that creates 200% more downforce and half the weight but we can tell you anything about it because we dont know and can only show you the same stock footage over and over again" ....i may have gone on a bit of a rant there.
Driver61: The new wing is genius
Gordon Ramsay: It's hideous. The turkey in my backyard has better wings.
@@AzathothsAlarmClock Dude puts peas in fucking everything lol
When they race in the rain it's going to look even more amazing now.
I honestly thought I was looking at a photoshopped Indy car the first time I saw the new car
This was my first impression too. Lol
I think that 1:1 model was build by Dalara......like the Indycars....and F2 Cars....
Thanks for putting the credits of the videos you included in the video here, I found 3 awesome TH-camrs to subscribe to :)
Thank you for explaining this. I was wondering what that lower wing affect was doing. That is brilliant. Looking forward to next year. Questions - When do the teams get started on the new cars? Is it a set date for everyone? When is that?
They have already started, most have already focussing on them a few months ago
The teams are already busy with the development of the new car. They started drawing as soon as the new regulations were specified in 2019 and by now, they have a model in the wind tunnel. But if your question is related to team release dates, I'm not sure if that has a specified date yet. But it's likely februari 2022, just before the wintertests. Like most years.
So we will see some crazy rooster tails in wet races next year?
Exactly what I was thinking. With the corollaries of, will this help or hurt visibility and will the ground effects improve track drying?
Oh, sorry, I forgot to say: as always a brilliant, enlightening video. Thank's a lot!
It is genius if it works as intended to improve racing and overtaking. Of course it's always interesting to see how teams get creative to circumvent the intention of the rules for their benefit and the disadvantage of their competitors following them...
And these cars are so ugly
@@t.d6379 I disagree, they got simpler thus changing all the rough edges and numerous surfaces for beatiful curves, which look better in my opinion.
love your content, some of the best on youtube 👍
Glad you enjoy it!
This is great news!
Lately I was really starting to wonder why I was watching the race on sundays and skipping the classificatory laps , if those where the ones where the race was being actually decided!
I rooting for Alonso on 2022 , I firmly believe his decision making , outside the tracks , has been quite poor during all his career , but as a driver , on equal conditions , he is the best driver on the grid I’m sure about that, but let’s see!
I’m excited for the first time, since AMG completely destroyed the other companies in performance.
I can imagine engineers working to actually create dirty air at the back and increase down force loss for the car following, I mean you can't unlearn a concept
If that happened, I hope that FIA try to do something for the team who did that.
Why would you do that when it slows down your own car to do so? Makes no sense at all
@@canismajoris6733 just by making sure the diffuser doesn't bring the over body dirty air up, make it out washy
That would be pretty smart to do. But regulations would be tight enough to make the engineers spend sleepless nights trying to figure it out
@@canismajoris6733 It's only by a bit and it can provide downforce just like current wings. You don't need much to change the air flow at such high speeds. I'm nearly sure rear end of the car will be nearly the same in all teams because of that. Also it's very easy to measure so there should be no "flex wing" situation.
So if there is such a reduction of dirty air, please, eliminate the DRS.
Drs wont be on the new cars
@@tijmeoudekotte7 It will be, but if the rules work well they want to get rid of it
Why do people not like drs?
@@RammsteinPTc BC is not real racing.
@@RammsteinPTc It's a bit artificial, it's meant to compensate the car behind for the time loss when following another car. The DRS zones are generally tweaked to somewhat reach that. And in practice it somewhat works, but not precisely. It more or less becomes a game of just trying to keep a car behind out of your DRS at the detection point, because if the following car is 1.1 seconds behind it still suffers quite a bit of dirty air, without getting any compensation.
I fear that when they enable a much more closer follow that this will lead to more high speed accidents. Also it is strange that the teams no longer will be able to use their aerodynamicists to develop cars that are different and much more interesting.
I was just thinking how much more badly affected a car would be if it had side contact with a tyre.
If the floor isn't working, you're more or less out of the race.
Even tho they have the follow the guidelines the teams can still make slight adjustments and get creative with the details to make sure there car is just a few % better. And in f1 thats all you need to win if your good enough of a driver.
Mindblowing video, really nice, had no idea about the pushing dirty air upwards feature in the rear of the car, crazy!
Thank you for sharing your insight with us all, I think the new wing looks great! Curious what will happen to DRS for passing, looks like it has been eliminated?!? Thanks again I'm really enjoying your channel! 😎
feels like Im watching Engineering Explained W/Chainbear at the same time ,this really good explanation that contains a lot of racing information along side w/ engineering information ,LOVE YOU GUY ,Thx for this works.
5:35 holy shit that livery looks gooood
I know right? Looks properly gorgeous. I hope the '22 Red Bull car looks as close to that as possible.
Ah yes, nearly black. It's something... They could do so much more.
@@piccoloatburgerking no the Mercedes looks good clour and will be a nice clour in 2022
You are so correct! That is pure genius design! Safer racing and more exciting I’m sure! Beautiful cars as well so it’s all win win!
I'm curious how does the drs flap work
I wish they remove drs. Just like the old days. If you are able to follow the car easier, then remove drs
I don't think there's going to be drs anymore
I think they're going to go
@@mrkic23 like the old days, when overtaking only happened in the pits
@@Blueturtle1 no mate, when overtaking required positioning and skills.
@@mrkic23 question, have you ever watched the “old days?” If you have, then you’d know people have been moaning about it being boring since the start. Take off your rose tinted glasses
Thank you so much for these explanations! Whenever anything happens in F1 I visit here and there's a comprehensive explanation of what occurred and what it means. Really appreciate it. 🙏
From 57 to 18% This is crazy. Somehow sounds too good to be true
Without an appendages. This will reduce as designers start adding more (legal) winglets and aero devices.
I love the look of the new wing and aero. Very curvy and beautiful. Want to see the ferrari
As interesting as this is, I'm much more curious about all the clever designs, that the teams will come up with. Though I'm not really looking forward to the "plug the loophole"-war, that will inevitably follow. Would very much prefer for these the clever innovations to remain legal until the end of the season (unless there are safety concerns, obviously).
Then you get blowouts with no championship battles.
Didn't FIA try to reduce ground effect due to "safety concerns"?
@@codemy666 They banned the old type of ground effect. This is the new ground effect.
@@abcdefghijklmno1009 In the end it's the same idea
@@codemy666 The old ground effect tried to redirect all air over the top of the car. This ground effect maneuvers the air that passes under the car to create downforce. It's different.
As a Aeronautical engineer for over 4 decades I really appreciate these aero changes, especially in the wing. The end plates eliminated span-wise flow but as with many aero tweeks its caused other problems. While the downforce on the new wing may washout a bit on corners when the wing experiences sideslip, it stills appears to be a vast improvement over the current wing. I'm interested if there will be a corresponding improvement in cross winds. Engineers love to add devices like rakes, fences, and generators to improve performance, but these in turn cause issues of their own. No free lunch or silver bullets in aerodynamics. I love this formula and we will see which team will learn the fastest to setup this car. Cheers
Waiting for teams to come up with a way to cause more dirty air to slow the cars behind them.
What causes wing vortices is the pressure differential between low pressure air on the underside of the wing and high pressure air on the top, which is drawn around the ends (tips) of the wings. That would set up a circular flow if the car was stationary. Since the car is moving, that vortex is stretched out behind the car. You can see the same effect on airplane wings if the plane flies through a cloud.
The end plates are there to prevent that wing tip vortex from forming. The "tip ups" on the ends of airliner wings do the same thing, "fencing off" high and low pressure air. The vortices that form around a race car's wings are caused by the build-up of air trapped in the corner between the trailing edge of the wing and the end plates. The louvers in the upper end plates are there to allow some of that bunched-up air to escape. In that respect, removing the upper portion of the wing endplates won't harm downforce that much.
The best way to reduce the influence of dirty air on a race car is not to fiddle with the wings, but to remove them entirely. Or at least reduce them to the point of being aerodynamic trim tabs. Yes, downforce makes the cars go faster, but is that really a good idea? The best competition in motorsports comes in smaller classes like Formula Ford, where there are no wings at all.
Flat-out speed numbers may sound impressive, but I watch racing for competition, not some esoteric engineering fight where most of the competition is in wind tunnel numbers. Faster lap times are only really evident on stop watches. Rates of closure and overtaking are what generate competition. Keep your technological Rubik's Cubes and give us cars that RACE, rather than "generate numbers."
I really like his videos and insights but goddamn does he take long to get to the point. Without all the repeating this video couldve been done in 3 minutes. He literally explained why the rearwing is shaped like it is in minute 6 out of 7. a little bit frustrating
Agreed.
😂 Haha! Remeber it's of utmost importance for him to remind you that at some point in his life, he too was a boy racer. Only then does he get to the point. Eventually.
Thank you so much bro for explaining the importance of what the new f1cars features will bring to the sport can't wait next year!!!!!!!!!!
The fact that I'm subscribed to this channel proves that I am a very clever person.
200 IQ confirmed
@@Driver61 😂😂
Once again, another terrific video! This is top quality!
Man, you and Chainbear produce THE ABSOLUTE BEST Formula 1 content in TH-cam.
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Have been looking forward to seeing this car for so long, incredible design
It seems I don't agree with most TH-camrs definition of "radically different"
All the downforce loses in "dirty" air makes the engines job of smashing the car through it easier, with good drafting, hopefully this should make for more overtaking.
Brilliantly illustrated at 3:27, you can see the lower pressure behind the side pods of the following car but fascinating to see the difference in air coming off the back of both cars.
This video is really smooth, espite being filmed in 30fps. I love that!
The video was amazing!
Thanks for good explanation!
After watching the first three races. We can safely say these cars can follow much easier and the races have been really exciting so far!
Wow that is very interesting. Brilliant idea. Let's hope it doesn't slow the front driver down. Thanks.
Just subscribed and they should really put you in the race booth because the current race announcers no nothing about the technical side of F1. I really miss Steve Matchett in the booth, he was the best.
Former F1 fan eagerly awaiting 2022 season and these rules changes for 8 years to finally see better racing again.
Double chassis is next change which should be allowed.
This was very educational, I imagine engine power is going to be critical next season, being able to catch, follow, pass and possibly fight back will be dependent on engine power or maybe not with far less drag on the cars. Either way I won't be missing a single event.
A good explanation of the new design, and its main purpose being to reduce the effects of ' dirty ' air on following cars.
On a slightly different line of reasoning it would be highly desirable IMO to configure the new cars in a way to eliminate the danger of two side by side cars from interlocking wheels - a dangerous and ever-present possibility with the present layout. This could be accomplished simply by having side bars, similar in function to roll bars, however an alternative - following some additional research - side ducts could be designed which have the double function of managing the aerodynamics and also to mechanically preventing two adjacent cars interlocking their wheels. As an afterthought they would also reduce the downstream turbulence of the front wheels.
that is heresy like a driver halo.
open-wheeled trucks use side-guards to block the kill-zone between the wheels and increase aerodynamics.
so the principal is well-proven.
but mortal danger is fashionable.
time traveler, your configuration is from a safer future.
That sounds great, let's hope it makes for better racing
It worked. I'm watching each race again.
Very good an eye opener. Next year looking very exciting !
Cool video. Makes me more excited to watch next season.
Great to see the step forward for facilitating overtaking from the engineering side.
Personally I think aesthetically last years cars really peaked, and looked so good. These new cars a bit more an ‘acquired taste’ looks wise...
As always, your videos are absolutely splendid!
Whole design of a car looks very organic like it was grown instead of being built. Impressive.
WOW! This was soooo interesting to watch!
Looks beautiful. Just hoping they perform as expected. I worry a bit about bumps making them lose the ground effect.
Great explanation. F1 2022 should become a lot more exciting. Thank You, Scott Mansell!
Im just excited ground effect is back. Late 70s and Early 80s with ground effect gave us one of the most exciting seasons ever. 1982 springs to mind. Im just hoping the new regs repeat the success minus the fatalities ofcourse.
Can you make a video about how driver learn all the various the tracks with all the breaking points and racing lines. Would be super interesting. Especially for those drivers like lewis who don't really use the simulator
It looks way better. Finally cars looking cool... now engines again
I can't wait to see liveries for next season!
Woah! they Brought Back the Viper Wing! 😃
Another way to reduce dirty air would have been to increase the end plates of the rear wing. Imposing that they must extend at least 5cm behind and 7cm above the trailing edge, without any opening less than 15 cm from any part of the wing, would dramatically reduce the vortex. That would also reduce the drag.
I seem to recall that back in Murray Walker days getting into the slipstream was the first stage in mounting an overtake. It was certainly true in karting on the long circuits. Then all this aero stuff came along and spoilt it.
I guess the effect will be safer than that of the Flying Lotus of the 70s. Cars look fresh and great again too. More minimalised design, please!
Good to see finally the F1 regulators do this because the current rear wings set ups has nothing to do with making the car safer or making the car more efficient. It was a simple way the leading teams could cheat by making the air behind their cars much more unstable for any car trying to overtake thus neutralising reducing dramatically the handling of an opponent. It's one of the many tricks teams used and were for years getting away with cheating . The they discovered in wind tunnel testing deliberately replicated a Jet Wash effect this is when a jet inadvertently crosses over into another jets exhaust path , its dirty air and the aircraft looses its aerodynamic flyability .
Can't hardly wait... Let's RACE!!!
First i hated the new design. I thought it was only for looks and was decreasing performance. But after i realized it made alot less dirty air, i've stoked for the introduction!
Great video! Fantastic explanation!
Those new cars look absolutely gorgeous
I need to see those cars in testing next year!!