It feels like they reduce the quality of 7 just to sell 9. But I don't mind plastic. I don't need an overbuilt pc for 2x price because a laptop isn't a thing that we keep forever and show off unlike a Swiss watch.
me with my second-hand ThinkPad W530 from 2012: shifty eyes 👀 (but you're right; 11 years is not forever, and although it's still quite usable, I have lately been strongly considering upgrading it)
Went to micro center to check out the 7i and was impressed with the overall build quality of the entire thing. Even though the keyboard deck is plastic, it still felt really sturdy. Personally the 7 is much more appealing. Hopefully they reduce the prices for the 9 at some point
Own a 4090 series 7i pro and was also impressed with the build quality. I've seen a lot of complaints about plastic. However, it has plenty of heft, feels robust, and the performance is outstanding.
They are both nice. The ergonomics of the 9 would kill the deal for me. I type at odd angles so the uncomfortable lack of space for the palm rest would cause a lot of difficulty.
@@MashITTech hey would you be able to review the Acer Predator Triton 17x (2023) model please it would be greatly appreciated and if you could compare it to the Legion 9i eventually that’d be amazing! Love your content!
That’s possible but surely it would have been easier for them to keep the 2022 chassis with all those amazing features and put in the new motherboard, it’s the same power budget. Instead it’s like the out the legion 7 components in a legion 5 chassis
I saved up and bought the Legion 9i. So far I’m happy with it. Just know that if you get the Raid 0 option, disabling that is a bit annoying. Also, it can run a little hot out of the box.
I'll bet u 20 bucks my Legion Pro 7i Gen 8 with 4090 outperforms your 9i... But, hope you're happy paying double for three quarters the performance! :)
@@Goatjo4 depends on if you need top end performance or not. The Pro 7i is the newer generation and comes with the 40 series Nividia GPU rather than the older 30 series Nividia GPU. I personally prefer the design of the Pro 7i more as well. But both are extremely powerful computers
Yeah, its crazy, I used to only buy Alienware before starting this channel but I am not liking the direction Dell is taking atm, I mean where is the x18?? I have had the Legion 7 for about 4 months now and although I haven't reviewed it, I absolutely love it. I must do that review sometime 🤣
@MashITTech I love everything about the X16 ergonomically and aesthetically - It's just a little ridiculous they couldn't give us competitive CPUs or a larger model to establish a desktop replacement. The X18 would be my ideal device at this time. I am quite interested in the 9i for several reasons too - but the keyboard being smashed into an awkward place for a redundant water cooler hurts me lol. Most likely buying a maxed out blade 18 in mercury white this year - but it's a shame. I need a desktop replacement for new travel requirements at my job, and I don't mind the extra money for premium build quality of the models I'm considering - but I would 100% prefer a Legion 9i done right or an Alienware X16 with a brighter screen and an HX Intel chip. The little details and luxury appearance in these items is what inspires me to continue using them - but it's almost unforgivable to overlook the larger details (such as screen and competition).
@@MashITTech at the start of the year i was eyeing up the Dell x16 but costs and lower performance vs the legion 7i pro from your reviews saved me from wasting money. the only other ones i was interested in was the MSI Vector GP68 and the asus scar 17.. while i use an external monitor, for those days i don't - the GP68 was a deal breaker, also came with less and slower memory for the same price as the legion. and the Scar 17 - just can't justify spending an extra £500 for an extra 10 fps... thank you for all your reviews, they've been super helpful and has helped me make a better decision. It arrives in 7 days, i'll let you know how it goes !
I mean, the battle should be 3x Legion 7s vs one Legion 9. LOL. I just bought a Legion 7i with most upgrades as a third of the price almost. I can order or make a sheet of forged carbon tbh and apply it to it.. It's cheaper than normal woven CF.
Are you planning on reviewing the base Alienware M18, since with discounts you can get it for the same price as the M16s, which has a lot of premium features and for the base model it is a great gaming laptop. I love your videos and I especially like that there is a dedicated channel that always reviews the newest Alienware and helps me make an informative decision. So are you planning on reviewing the base Alienware M18?
I got the Legion 9 pro and barely get 2 hours of battery life just streaming music (at low volume) and using iGPU with display set at 60Hz and dimmed to the lowest brightness level. Also, all RGB lighting turned off and set to the quiet mode. I'm not sure how you're getting over 4 hours of battery life!
Hey David! Great video as always, could you do an ultimate purchase guide between 2023 legion pro 5, legion 7 and legion 9? That would be great to see them head to head.
The Legion 7i Pro with 4080 only feels cheap until you boot up a game and run it on ultra settings. This is my first Lenovo product and I'm all in with them after dealing with companies like Asus and Steelseries.
i bought Legion 7i pro with RTX 4090 pure for gaming and i dont see reason for buying Legion 9 which cost 1700 EUR more lol plus i use external keyboard mouse and monitor lol i don't know how hard you have to hit your head to go for LEgion 9 lol
Absolute distain for consumers by Lenovo. Lets strip the 7 of anything good so we can double the price of the 9. Basically paying double for a water loop that doesnt work and a fancy lid. Can get laptops with similar specs for half the price
Decided to get the legion 9, Lenovo is having a fairly decent discount for 2024 refresh preorders.$2900 for the 4090. I think it worth the $500 premium over legion 7. But that’s just me.
Sad to see Lenovo being greedy and downgrading their Legion 7, and given it to the Legion 9... and "appropiate" price hike.. I was looking forward to upgrade my 2021, Legion 7 with 5800H RTX 3080 16GB :( looking at other brands for sure.
I bought the 7i Pro with RTX 4080, but found it too heavy and large for my needs. Performance was great, though, I cannot fault it if you don’t mind a bulkier and heavier laptop. I sent it back and ordered a Legion 14 Slim instead, with a gorgeous 120 Hz OLED screen and AMD Ryzen CPU and an RTX 4060. Works perfectly for my needs as it is significantly smaller and lighter but still runs all my games at 60+ FPS in Quiet mode without annoying fan noise. Much cheaper, too, it was around £1300 with 32GB DDR5 RAM.
Too many "disappointments" in reviews of the Legion Pro 7i across the board. I know even the 4070, not to mention i9 (HX), can probably smoke the one in my Dell XPS 9530, 4070 (@ 40 watts), not to mention the i9 (H), but it sounds as though Lenovo shaved off too many things from the Pro 7i this year to merit selling my XPS. I almost did, too, but the performance gains can't compensate for the 7i trimmings, at least not for me. The 9i is simply not in my financial orbit; I value my vitals too much! Anyway, thanks for the review! It helped with the decision-making process! 👍
I just found your channel. Absolutely great work. Subscribed instantly. Thinking of purchasing the legion 7i, but then I saw your review of the alienware m18. What would you recommend? How did you manage to get the legion 7i price down to 2k here in the UK? Cheers and love your work:)
both m18 and legion 7 are great laptops but what is your main use case? if you want a desktop replacement then the m18 is a better pick. If you want a laptop that is portable then get the legion. Power wise they are both great performers there, there is literally nothing between them. With regards to price its actually been even cheaper than I paid for mine! Keep your eyes on hotukdeals, we always post when Lenovo drop a good discount code :)
The only significant difference between the Legion 7 and 9 is the miniLED display. Other features that were removed from the 7 and put into the 9 is exactly the same move Asus did a couple years ago with the Zephyrus line-up. They have since walked that strategy back and put those featurs back in place on the lower models. I hope Lenovo does the same. As you stated in your review, the water cooling solution doesn't work very well - on par with existing heat pipe and vapor chamber solutions. Now, with that said, I was able to price out the Legion 9i for $3345 with multiple stacked discounts that include upgrades - 4090, 64GB DDR5, and Windows 11 Pro. Is that price low enough to justify the price? Decisions, decisions.
You could buy Legion 7 4080 AMD processor for 1609£ or 4090 for 1941£ from Lenovo website. What a bargain. I snapped 4080 version can't wait. Hope it will last for years as it's my first gaming laptop. Moving away from desktop for portability and comfort and downsizing. Fingers crossed
wow that's a mental price, I recently bought a 4080 legion 7 Ryzen model (Review almost finished) a couple of weeks ago for 1900 and thought that was good 🤣
@@MashITTech Yeah good price for 4080. blackfriday discount code got sold out in hours. People gone mental for it. Now 4080 selling for 1900 with another code
Ack. I want the screen of the 9 in the body of the 7 - that keyboard position on the 9 would drive me nuts. But I play RPGs more than anything, so I want the higher res screen. I really don’t care how the body LOOKS. Plastic is fine, and probably lighter anyway. I use a MacBook Pro for professional settings, so the gaming laptop would be just for me.
Well. I was worried about my Alienware M16 buy in anticipation of this review, but having watched this, I'm still satisfied with my choice. The M16 has been great. CPU performance in games is awesome and it sustains really high total power draw with GPU temps around what the 9i is doing anyway. BUT, I do think that internal water loop is neat and I am hoping to see more effective implementations of that tech by Lenovo and other brands in the future.
I think the closed loop is kind of gimmicky since it's a very closed loop system. If you got money to almost throw away and want the literal best, yes the 9i. But there's no way I could. The 7i with a 4080 was a stretch to convince the wife.
Great review. Could you shed any light on the Legion Pro 7i battery drain issue, where allegedly when running at max CPU + GPU workload, the included smaller-sized 330W GaN charger simply cannot provide enough power to the laptop. Resulting in heavy battery depletion even while plugged in (up to 10% an hour) and consequently a very short battery life.
Given the i7's resolution depending on the FPS and games you play as well, that combined with undervolting the GPU and CPU, the battery could probably last a little longer than 4 hours perhaps. Thoughts?
Please help me, I am confused between Legion 9i / 7i and M3 Pro Max 36 GB 1TB varaint. I have no problem regarding the price, and both the OS are ok for me. I use a few VM for ethical hacking apart from these I program and also do video edits. Please recommend which one will be worth.
@@tancordancer4875 so I ended up returning the 9i because they had a sale that dropped it by another $500 and then I couldn't justify paying an additional 1k between 7 and 9. Over all, I am very happy with that decision. But, if I were able to get the 9 for the same price, or within $200, I say get the 9.
I went through a lot of laptop this year and I think I will be settling on the Legion 9i (delivery date 10/17). I went from an Alienware M16 4090 -> Asus Strix Scar 16 4090 -> Acer Preditor Triton 17x 4090. Display for me was #1 priority. Since this year they had ZERO OLED for gaming laptops. It seems like this mLED was the one to beat. I will be mainly using this for vacation video editing and secondary gaming on the go.
I think you are going to love the mini LED, it is almost on par with OLED and was the most responsive mini LED I have tested. The screen and the build is the real highlight of the laptop, it is a shame the water lop was a bit of a gimmick but performance was still great regardless. Let me know what you think of yours.
Do you know about PWM from mini-LED? You gonna have eye strain because of PWM, it is on all brightness levels, while IPS is much safer for eyes, because it doesnt have or has the high frequency PWM at lower brightness levels
@@tima_net3289 I am well aware about PWM as I am someone that suffers severely with migraines if a low HZ PWM is used (such as in OLED phones and screens, and I just cannot buy OLED as much as I love the picture). This mini LED does have PWM but the frequency is very high and gives me no eye strain
I also had a lot of laptops this year. I had (and still have) razer blade 16 4090. And also Triton 17X. I was unhappy with triton QA and razer 4k is too taxing. I have legion 9i now, but I missed Scar 16. How is Scar 16 compared to legion 9i?
Was going to upgrade from the legion 7 rtx 3080 to the rtx 4090 version. I probably wont now after seeing this video. Taking away the input lights on the back and the metal build was what made me buy it in the first place. Legion 9 looks nice, but not at that price, Jesus!
Looking at getting one which would really be a better option price isnt a issue just want what would be better? And last the longest? Whats your recommendation or if anyone has any recommendations id love to hear it. Thank you!
Enjoying this review. Just paused to say this. At the Leveno website it claims different display specs than you have here at 5:13 . They clam. 100 percent adobe RGB as well has 100 percent on others. Are they Bs'ing or are you mistaken or am I confused.?
yeah, they are being overly generous there I think but also they have multiple panel manufacturers (the usual panel lottery) so maybe one has slightly better colour space.
Legion 9 now has 14900 CPU and better RAM with 64gb as standard - discounts are now available and you can pick up a Nvidia 4090 version for £3500 or the 4080 for just over £3000
I am always curious if anyone purchases a laptop based on the speakers because in every use case the best solution is to either use headphones or monitor speakers. Like if you're concerned about sound then you're already using alternative audio outputs and if you're using the onboard speakers on any laptop they're all going to sound bad relative to speakers or headphones. To me these speakers are more than enough for any mundane tasks and if you need anything more robust you're going to be using an output device regardless. IDK if I'm the only one but I never really understood the concern about having top of the line audio because all of it is trash relative to any pair of headphones from the gas station.
Whilst I always use a decent set of headphones or speakers when possible. I value a good set of speakers as I am often using the laptop say in the kitchen or lounge listening to podcasts/TH-cam/music whilst doing other tasks. Having a decent set of laptop speakers means I am not cringing whilst listening to tinny laptop speakers. The MacBook Pro 14 and 16 has speakers so good I will often listen to them rather than plug in a set of speakers
bro i am so confussed please help me I know that new GPU are gonna release for desktop in next month(sep) so should I wait for 5 month then buy a 5090laptop or I should get the 4090 legion 7 or 9i?
Is this a good total price fo the Legion 9i? $3,951.31 Processor: 14th Generation Intel Core i9-14900HX Processor (E-cores up to 4.10 GHz P-cores up to 5.80 GHz) Memory : 64 GB DDR5-5600MHz (SODIMM, Over Clock) - (2 x 32 GB) selected upgrade First Solid State Drive: 2 TB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 TLC
Just bought Pro 7i for 2,000 with RTX 2080. Couldn't justify the extra 1500+ for the pro 9i. As a moderate gamer, i think Pro 7i is more than enough and i couldn't tell the difference in performance when i went to go see it in person. Glad i watched your video, I think i've made the correct decision. Thank you.
Hello, if you reading this i would like to know your opinion between Titan GT77hx and Legion 7 Pro. for longevity im not looking for the screen but looking at their cooling, what is your opinion between the 2 for longevity sake im considering to buy either of the 2. Thank you
I am good thank you mate, incredibly busy as I have a ton of laptops stacked up and not enough time to review them all 🤣 How are you? Glad you are still enjoying the 7, last years 7 was the pinnacle of value, performance and premium from a legion laptop IMHO
I am assuming you are talking about last years AMD model as there is no AMD this year, and if so I already reviewed it here: th-cam.com/video/JkYmIikXXFw/w-d-xo.html
Completely not worth it. I think they are testing the market. If people are stupid enough to pay ridiculously more for absolutely no gain at all wrapped around "premium" marketing.
I am waiting for the delivery of my 7i 8th gen today. I bought a mint used one because I want the ability to return it. I am not a gamer at all only video and photo editing. So the screen specs are a bit of a bummer for me but the 4 grand for 9i is not an option right now. I am going to search you channel to see if you reviewed the Asus Pro Book pro. That screen is pretty serious for color grading. Thank you. Great channel and video.
I haven't had many Asus laptops this year, I guess if you are concerned about colours you may want to try and get an OLED laptop. If I am honest I always edit on my 38" ultra wide so the screen hasn't been an issue for me, it looks good and is very responsive but certainly not the most colour accurate. I would recommend calibrating it though if you plan on editing on it
@@MashITTech Thanks for taking the time. I have a pro 4k specs BENq 32 inch on my desktop but the idea with this laptop is when I'm on the road. Can I please ask one more question. I just got my Lenovo 7i intel 13900 pro laptop today. It's weird how the ram upgrade is. Like it's dirty secret. No one is sure. Leveno says 32 is max and plenty of people are using 64gb. As an editor I need more ram but is it a waste since it slow you down to 4800MHZ. I just bought and may return 2 32gb sticks of DDR5 5200MHZ. Is that ok. I know the one tech on youtube used 4800 but I can't get that delievered on time. I'm not tech so I want to ask you. What do you think? Still not sure I'll keep this laptop but so far it's pretty cool. One guy with a popular channel only got 2 percent more specs with adobe premiere. YIKES this is what made me wonder.
Hi, with discount codes i can get the 9i fully specked (4090 RTX, 64 GB RAM, 2 TB) for £3,700.. at this price point do you think it is worth the price. I can also get the 7i, fully specked for £2,200. What would you do if you were me? the mini LED is really swaying me to the 9i and i love the design .. I assume i could keep/upgrade the 9i for years to come?
As amazing as the 9i is, it’s not worth £1500 more than the 7i for the screen and better build quality! I would get the 7i as it’s still a great machine and put the £1500 towards something else
@@MashITTech thanks for the reply 😊 the 7i seems like the sensible choice .. but the inner kid in me wants the shiny new thing. I'm going to think about it for a couple of weeks, I'm in no rush
Any hinges problem for these lenovo laptops? I got a problem with MSI laptop and I don't want to have a same problem for the new gaming laptop that I'm going to buy.
I have been using the legions since 2020 and our original unit which Gary has been heavily using for editing has been severely abused and has no hinge or build issues 👍
Great job and great review . Ihave question : I have legion 5 pro ryzen 7 7745hx rtx 4070 . In my lenovo vantage i have gpu overclock option but dont have cpu overclock option on menu . Any advice or info?
A silly attempt at segmentation. Why not just call them 7i and 7i Pro. The price diff is enormous for just some stripped off tiny details. Well, the screen and the beautiful lid may be worth a little extra to some, but no way that much. I's like they expect people to buy it just because it is expensive and have a "brand". No way I would go for the 9i. Love that sardaukar scene from Dune though. 😎
I've been wanting to try gaming peripherals on a laptop for a while now because with a desktop you can't change the polling rate of the keyboard. And the mouse can do 125hz like the trackpad but there's no ground if you change it to the other two options 500hz/1000hz.
I wold add that the 7 has a 240 Hz display while the 9 only a 165 Hz, I think that for 4 grand it had to brink 240 Hz to the table, esetially beacause it is a gaming pc and it has the specs to run at high fps in most of the games... What a shame
price cannot be justified for 9i. opted for 7i 4080. despite loving carbon fiber and forged carbon lets be honest we wont be looking at it much at all. plastic build wont affect me at all either. for the extra 1000+ dollars, can get something else
Just the review I was waiting for! Now that they’re pretty much the same price point, would you recommend the Legion 9i or the Alienware x16? Appreciate all the work you put into these comparisons!
if the price is the same I would take the Legion 9. As much as I love the x16, the soldered ram, 300nit screen, worse CPU and power delivery makes it inferior to the legion 9
The 9i is better but I just got the x16 with a 4080 an i9 and 32g of ram (6000mhz) plus a qhd 240hz screen for $2600 at that price point the x16 is very compelling. The x16 also has better built in speakers and more of them. And a slightly better keyboard. Other then that the 9i wins
Ty for the comparison could you possibly make a video on how to undervolt and overclock in a legion 7i pro cause i am scared i eill go too far and burn the gpu lol
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It feels like they reduce the quality of 7 just to sell 9. But I don't mind plastic. I don't need an overbuilt pc for 2x price because a laptop isn't a thing that we keep forever and show off unlike a Swiss watch.
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@@MashITTech
When I saw the technically water cooling loop in a video, I laughed so hard my dog awoke.
haha, it even looks weedy. I did have hope it would have some effect but looks like a complete waste of time
me with my second-hand ThinkPad W530 from 2012: shifty eyes 👀 (but you're right; 11 years is not forever, and although it's still quite usable, I have lately been strongly considering upgrading it)
Well, a laptop is definitely something you can keep for a long time, especially if you take care of it. I'm upgrading from my 15 year old laptop
under-rated channel with tons of efforts and high quality videos, keep it up
Basically Legion 7 for a regular gaming laptop, Legion 9 for a flair & style laptop
Went to micro center to check out the 7i and was impressed with the overall build quality of the entire thing. Even though the keyboard deck is plastic, it still felt really sturdy. Personally the 7 is much more appealing. Hopefully they reduce the prices for the 9 at some point
I own a 7i with 4080. It's a beast! And awesome - I know there's some plastics but it feels really good.
Thanks for the tip guys. B&H has 4080 for $2149... not bad!!!
$1999 right now at B&H @@Jowersman
Got an ebay certified refurb for 2199. A 4090. It's a beast, im honestly impressed. I keep up somewhat with my friend with desktop 4080 .
Own a 4090 series 7i pro and was also impressed with the build quality. I've seen a lot of complaints about plastic. However, it has plenty of heft, feels robust, and the performance is outstanding.
Bought a Legion 7 (AMD) 2021 version in 2022 when it was on sale with R9-5900HX CPU and NVDA 3080 GPU. Costed USD1,700. Still happy with it in 2023.
you could get a 5i with a 4070 and i9 13900k for like 100$ less
Thanks! Now you gotta compare the Legion pro 7i 2023 vs 2022. Thanks!
They are both nice. The ergonomics of the 9 would kill the deal for me. I type at odd angles so the uncomfortable lack of space for the palm rest would cause a lot of difficulty.
Yes I have found that when gaming it cuts into my palm
@@MashITTech hey would you be able to review the Acer Predator Triton 17x (2023) model please it would be greatly appreciated and if you could compare it to the Legion 9i eventually that’d be amazing! Love your content!
Loving my RTX 4080 Legion 7i
I'd always assumed that they reduce the 7i features due to how expensive it would be
That’s possible but surely it would have been easier for them to keep the 2022 chassis with all those amazing features and put in the new motherboard, it’s the same power budget. Instead it’s like the out the legion 7 components in a legion 5 chassis
@@MashITTech I've heard the price of the 40 series GPUs are the what caused them to cut features on the 7i Pro.
@@MashITTech how do i recognize 2022 legion 7?
I saved up and bought the Legion 9i. So far I’m happy with it. Just know that if you get the Raid 0 option, disabling that is a bit annoying. Also, it can run a little hot out of the box.
yes, that is a standard RAID problem, Alienwares have the same issue. Fortunately a fresh install is easy with these
I'll bet u 20 bucks my Legion Pro 7i Gen 8 with 4090 outperforms your 9i... But, hope you're happy paying double for three quarters the performance! :)
@@DJ-ru4imwould u recommend legion 7i or pro 7i
@@Goatjo4 depends on if you need top end performance or not. The Pro 7i is the newer generation and comes with the 40 series Nividia GPU rather than the older 30 series Nividia GPU. I personally prefer the design of the Pro 7i more as well. But both are extremely powerful computers
@@DJ-ru4imfoh. All tests say 9i performs better
Great video as usual. I switched from Alienware after 10 years and legion 7 4090 has been great for me over the past 6 months
Yeah, its crazy, I used to only buy Alienware before starting this channel but I am not liking the direction Dell is taking atm, I mean where is the x18?? I have had the Legion 7 for about 4 months now and although I haven't reviewed it, I absolutely love it. I must do that review sometime 🤣
@@MashITTech so Blade 16 or Legion 7?? Quick - my return window for the Blade is almost done! :-)
I would keep the blade personally but the legion 7 is better value for money
Thanks for the advice! Keeping the blade. (I really can't justify it - but I DO like it). @@MashITTech
@MashITTech
I love everything about the X16 ergonomically and aesthetically - It's just a little ridiculous they couldn't give us competitive CPUs or a larger model to establish a desktop replacement. The X18 would be my ideal device at this time.
I am quite interested in the 9i for several reasons too - but the keyboard being smashed into an awkward place for a redundant water cooler hurts me lol.
Most likely buying a maxed out blade 18 in mercury white this year - but it's a shame. I need a desktop replacement for new travel requirements at my job, and I don't mind the extra money for premium build quality of the models I'm considering - but I would 100% prefer a Legion 9i done right or an Alienware X16 with a brighter screen and an HX Intel chip.
The little details and luxury appearance in these items is what inspires me to continue using them - but it's almost unforgivable to overlook the larger details (such as screen and competition).
i just ordered a legion pro 7i.. £1967 from black friday. i'm investing in this lasting 8-10 years of gaming.
nice price, hope you enjoy it?
@@MashITTech at the start of the year i was eyeing up the Dell x16 but costs and lower performance vs the legion 7i pro from your reviews saved me from wasting money. the only other ones i was interested in was the MSI Vector GP68 and the asus scar 17.. while i use an external monitor, for those days i don't - the GP68 was a deal breaker, also came with less and slower memory for the same price as the legion.
and the Scar 17 - just can't justify spending an extra £500 for an extra 10 fps... thank you for all your reviews, they've been super helpful and has helped me make a better decision. It arrives in 7 days, i'll let you know how it goes !
It won't live that long
Just purchased the Legion 7i Pro Intel RTX 4090! Stoked for it to come in. Will be replacing my desktop due to space moving forward
I keep my devices for as long as I can so having easy access to the internal components is a plus for the Legion 7.
yeah, as it should! I hate it when they make it difficult to upgrade them and soldered on components drive me insane
I mean, the battle should be 3x Legion 7s vs one Legion 9. LOL. I just bought a Legion 7i with most upgrades as a third of the price almost.
I can order or make a sheet of forged carbon tbh and apply it to it.. It's cheaper than normal woven CF.
Are you planning on reviewing the base Alienware M18, since with discounts you can get it for the same price as the M16s, which has a lot of premium features and for the base model it is a great gaming laptop. I love your videos and I especially like that there is a dedicated channel that always reviews the newest Alienware and helps me make an informative decision. So are you planning on reviewing the base Alienware M18?
I got the Legion 9 pro and barely get 2 hours of battery life just streaming music (at low volume) and using iGPU with display set at 60Hz and dimmed to the lowest brightness level. Also, all RGB lighting turned off and set to the quiet mode. I'm not sure how you're getting over 4 hours of battery life!
Review units always better
Still happy I went with the M18 4080. Its been running beautifully!
Hey David! Great video as always, could you do an ultimate purchase guide between 2023 legion pro 5, legion 7 and legion 9? That would be great to see them head to head.
haha I did plan to do that one :)
@@MashITTech yess will be waiting for it then🤗
The Legion 7i Pro with 4080 only feels cheap until you boot up a game and run it on ultra settings. This is my first Lenovo product and I'm all in with them after dealing with companies like Asus and Steelseries.
Same here 💯
It really doesnt feel cheap does it
It doesn't feel cheap at all. It feels super solid.
I’m curious about the durability of the water cooling system.
i bought Legion 7i pro with RTX 4090 pure for gaming and i dont see reason for buying Legion 9 which cost 1700 EUR more lol plus i use external keyboard mouse and monitor lol i don't know how hard you have to hit your head to go for LEgion 9 lol
I guess for people who have the money it all comes to the look and the design and the fact that it is a bit thinner
Absolute distain for consumers by Lenovo.
Lets strip the 7 of anything good so we can double the price of the 9.
Basically paying double for a water loop that doesnt work and a fancy lid. Can get laptops with similar specs for half the price
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Couldn’t have said it better.
I noticed at 4:25 you have the light bars in the front and on the keyboard synced. That’s a nice touch!
Decided to get the legion 9, Lenovo is having a fairly decent discount for 2024 refresh preorders.$2900 for the 4090. I think it worth the $500 premium over legion 7. But that’s just me.
Inverted motherboard yuck!!
Sad to see Lenovo being greedy and downgrading their Legion 7, and given it to the Legion 9... and "appropiate" price hike.. I was looking forward to upgrade my 2021, Legion 7 with 5800H RTX 3080 16GB :( looking at other brands for sure.
Decided on 7i mostly relevant to cost, received it for $2,450.50+tax.
I bought the 7i Pro with RTX 4080, but found it too heavy and large for my needs. Performance was great, though, I cannot fault it if you don’t mind a bulkier and heavier laptop.
I sent it back and ordered a Legion 14 Slim instead, with a gorgeous 120 Hz OLED screen and AMD Ryzen CPU and an RTX 4060. Works perfectly for my needs as it is significantly smaller and lighter but still runs all my games at 60+ FPS in Quiet mode without annoying fan noise. Much cheaper, too, it was around £1300 with 32GB DDR5 RAM.
nice choice
DO you think its good to grab a Legion right now, or wait until Christmas when more premium laptops go on sale.
if you are not in a rush wait for Black Friday, should be some great deals then
Too many "disappointments" in reviews of the Legion Pro 7i across the board. I know even the 4070, not to mention i9 (HX), can probably smoke the one in my Dell XPS 9530, 4070 (@ 40 watts), not to mention the i9 (H), but it sounds as though Lenovo shaved off too many things from the Pro 7i this year to merit selling my XPS. I almost did, too, but the performance gains can't compensate for the 7i trimmings, at least not for me. The 9i is simply not in my financial orbit; I value my vitals too much! Anyway, thanks for the review! It helped with the decision-making process! 👍
I just found your channel. Absolutely great work. Subscribed instantly. Thinking of purchasing the legion 7i, but then I saw your review of the alienware m18. What would you recommend? How did you manage to get the legion 7i price down to 2k here in the UK? Cheers and love your work:)
both m18 and legion 7 are great laptops but what is your main use case? if you want a desktop replacement then the m18 is a better pick. If you want a laptop that is portable then get the legion. Power wise they are both great performers there, there is literally nothing between them. With regards to price its actually been even cheaper than I paid for mine! Keep your eyes on hotukdeals, we always post when Lenovo drop a good discount code :)
Thanks for the reply. Going for the legion with an rtx 4080👍
I bought Legion Pro 7i from a friend and am completely satisfied
The only significant difference between the Legion 7 and 9 is the miniLED display. Other features that were removed from the 7 and put into the 9 is exactly the same move Asus did a couple years ago with the Zephyrus line-up. They have since walked that strategy back and put those featurs back in place on the lower models. I hope Lenovo does the same. As you stated in your review, the water cooling solution doesn't work very well - on par with existing heat pipe and vapor chamber solutions. Now, with that said, I was able to price out the Legion 9i for $3345 with multiple stacked discounts that include upgrades - 4090, 64GB DDR5, and Windows 11 Pro. Is that price low enough to justify the price? Decisions, decisions.
Don’t forget the price 😂
I think it's worth the value with the discount, it has a very strong and nice built quality
which discount codes did you stack?
You could buy Legion 7 4080 AMD processor for 1609£ or 4090 for 1941£ from Lenovo website. What a bargain. I snapped 4080 version can't wait. Hope it will last for years as it's my first gaming laptop. Moving away from desktop for portability and comfort and downsizing. Fingers crossed
wow that's a mental price, I recently bought a 4080 legion 7 Ryzen model (Review almost finished) a couple of weeks ago for 1900 and thought that was good 🤣
@@MashITTech Yeah good price for 4080. blackfriday discount code got sold out in hours. People gone mental for it. Now 4080 selling for 1900 with another code
great comparison video!
I just love my Pro 5 with AMD Ryzen. More power than I could ever need. Never overclocked it.
Ack. I want the screen of the 9 in the body of the 7 - that keyboard position on the 9 would drive me nuts. But I play RPGs more than anything, so I want the higher res screen.
I really don’t care how the body LOOKS. Plastic is fine, and probably lighter anyway. I use a MacBook Pro for professional settings, so the gaming laptop would be just for me.
use the price difference for a really good monitor.. or vacation
Well. I was worried about my Alienware M16 buy in anticipation of this review, but having watched this, I'm still satisfied with my choice. The M16 has been great. CPU performance in games is awesome and it sustains really high total power draw with GPU temps around what the 9i is doing anyway. BUT, I do think that internal water loop is neat and I am hoping to see more effective implementations of that tech by Lenovo and other brands in the future.
I think the closed loop is kind of gimmicky since it's a very closed loop system. If you got money to almost throw away and want the literal best, yes the 9i. But there's no way I could. The 7i with a 4080 was a stretch to convince the wife.
Great review. Could you shed any light on the Legion Pro 7i battery drain issue, where allegedly when running at max CPU + GPU workload, the included smaller-sized 330W GaN charger simply cannot provide enough power to the laptop. Resulting in heavy battery depletion even while plugged in (up to 10% an hour) and consequently a very short battery life.
Given the i7's resolution depending on the FPS and games you play as well, that combined with undervolting the GPU and CPU, the battery could probably last a little longer than 4 hours perhaps. Thoughts?
Razer blade 16 vs Legion 9 ?
Good idea
Alienware m16 vs razer blade 16 vs 9
I haven't got the m16 in the studio atm as I got rid of my intel model to get the new AMD model which isn't here yet :(
Please help me, I am confused between Legion 9i / 7i and M3 Pro Max 36 GB 1TB varaint. I have no problem regarding the price, and both the OS are ok for me.
I use a few VM for ethical hacking apart from these I program and also do video edits.
Please recommend which one will be worth.
For VM support and hacking you would be better with either the 7 or the 9, the 7 would be better because of its better battery life
Excellent comparison, exactly the information you want when making a decision.
Fantastic review/comparison video!!
if they are similar, than we dont need to pay more, am i right?
You are right, money talks but when you know how much it costs to you the differences do not make justice. Wait one more year.
If the 9i just had a 300-400 euro difference than the Pro 7i, would you recommend it?
Yes for the better build quality and features
@@MashITTech I am trying my luck with discounts though I will have to wait till Monday. If not then I will have to settle for the Pro 7i.
I was able to get the 9i 4080 with coupons and before taxes, $2889, which is really only $500 more than the 7i 4080
@@AddictOfLearninghow is the 9i? I have read it cuts into your hand while gaming?I can get the 9 for almost the same price as 7.
@@tancordancer4875 so I ended up returning the 9i because they had a sale that dropped it by another $500 and then I couldn't justify paying an additional 1k between 7 and 9.
Over all, I am very happy with that decision. But, if I were able to get the 9 for the same price, or within $200, I say get the 9.
I went through a lot of laptop this year and I think I will be settling on the Legion 9i (delivery date 10/17). I went from an Alienware M16 4090 -> Asus Strix Scar 16 4090 -> Acer Preditor Triton 17x 4090. Display for me was #1 priority. Since this year they had ZERO OLED for gaming laptops. It seems like this mLED was the one to beat. I will be mainly using this for vacation video editing and secondary gaming on the go.
I think you are going to love the mini LED, it is almost on par with OLED and was the most responsive mini LED I have tested. The screen and the build is the real highlight of the laptop, it is a shame the water lop was a bit of a gimmick but performance was still great regardless. Let me know what you think of yours.
Do you know about PWM from mini-LED? You gonna have eye strain because of PWM, it is on all brightness levels, while IPS is much safer for eyes, because it doesnt have or has the high frequency PWM at lower brightness levels
@@tima_net3289 I am well aware about PWM as I am someone that suffers severely with migraines if a low HZ PWM is used (such as in OLED phones and screens, and I just cannot buy OLED as much as I love the picture). This mini LED does have PWM but the frequency is very high and gives me no eye strain
I also had a lot of laptops this year. I had (and still have) razer blade 16 4090. And also Triton 17X. I was unhappy with triton QA and razer 4k is too taxing. I have legion 9i now, but I missed Scar 16. How is Scar 16 compared to legion 9i?
@@Dserebrakov do you prefer this legion 9 to your blade 16?
The 9 is already on sale
where? I missed that
@@MashITTech in Australia
Was going to upgrade from the legion 7 rtx 3080 to the rtx 4090 version. I probably wont now after seeing this video. Taking away the input lights on the back and the metal build was what made me buy it in the first place. Legion 9 looks nice, but not at that price, Jesus!
Looking at getting one which would really be a better option price isnt a issue just want what would be better? And last the longest? Whats your recommendation or if anyone has any recommendations id love to hear it. Thank you!
Enjoying this review. Just paused to say this. At the Leveno website it claims different display specs than you have here at 5:13 . They clam. 100 percent adobe RGB as well has 100 percent on others. Are they Bs'ing or are you mistaken or am I confused.?
yeah, they are being overly generous there I think but also they have multiple panel manufacturers (the usual panel lottery) so maybe one has slightly better colour space.
What I never understood is the slim models had an SD card reader The regular seven didn't but once the nine came they added it Make that make sense
Legion 9 now has 14900 CPU and better RAM with 64gb as standard - discounts are now available and you can pick up a Nvidia 4090 version for £3500 or the 4080 for just over £3000
This is such a bummer move by Lenovo. Legion 7 now feels like a Legion 5 and that's not a good thing..
so so true
I am always curious if anyone purchases a laptop based on the speakers because in every use case the best solution is to either use headphones or monitor speakers. Like if you're concerned about sound then you're already using alternative audio outputs and if you're using the onboard speakers on any laptop they're all going to sound bad relative to speakers or headphones.
To me these speakers are more than enough for any mundane tasks and if you need anything more robust you're going to be using an output device regardless.
IDK if I'm the only one but I never really understood the concern about having top of the line audio because all of it is trash relative to any pair of headphones from the gas station.
Whilst I always use a decent set of headphones or speakers when possible. I value a good set of speakers as I am often using the laptop say in the kitchen or lounge listening to podcasts/TH-cam/music whilst doing other tasks. Having a decent set of laptop speakers means I am not cringing whilst listening to tinny laptop speakers. The MacBook Pro 14 and 16 has speakers so good I will often listen to them rather than plug in a set of speakers
bro i am so confussed please help me I know that new GPU are gonna release for desktop in next month(sep) so should I wait for 5 month then buy a 5090laptop or I should get the 4090 legion 7 or 9i?
How do these compare to Alienware m18?
Is this a good total price fo the Legion 9i?
$3,951.31
Processor: 14th Generation Intel Core i9-14900HX Processor (E-cores up to 4.10 GHz P-cores up to 5.80 GHz)
Memory : 64 GB DDR5-5600MHz (SODIMM, Over Clock) - (2 x 32 GB) selected upgrade
First Solid State Drive: 2 TB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 TLC
Excellent video!
Just bought Pro 7i for 2,000 with RTX 2080. Couldn't justify the extra 1500+ for the pro 9i. As a moderate gamer, i think Pro 7i is more than enough and i couldn't tell the difference in performance when i went to go see it in person. Glad i watched your video, I think i've made the correct decision. Thank you.
2080? 🤣
@@Legitti That's the premium one from 2 years ago.
@@alangabrielnietosaavedra3639no way man paid 2k for it now
@@alangabrielnietosaavedra3639no way he paid 2k for it
Down firing speakers for high end laptops😂😂wtf are they thinking?
What resolution did you do the performance test at?
I ran them at 1600p so they were both the same
Hello, if you reading this i would like to know your opinion between Titan GT77hx and Legion 7 Pro. for longevity im not looking for the screen but looking at their cooling, what is your opinion between the 2 for longevity sake im considering to buy either of the 2. Thank you
I would say the cooling is better on the GT77 over the legion 👍
Hello mate. How you been? I'm happy with the legion 7 amd. Legion 9 is just a over stretch in my opinion
I am good thank you mate, incredibly busy as I have a ton of laptops stacked up and not enough time to review them all 🤣 How are you? Glad you are still enjoying the 7, last years 7 was the pinnacle of value, performance and premium from a legion laptop IMHO
@@MashITTechare you going to review the amd Legion 7?
I am assuming you are talking about last years AMD model as there is no AMD this year, and if so I already reviewed it here: th-cam.com/video/JkYmIikXXFw/w-d-xo.html
@@MashITTech there is this year's model, with 7945hx and 4090
Oh strange, I have not seen that release in the U.K.! I will go and have another look in case I missed it
Completely not worth it. I think they are testing the market. If people are stupid enough to pay ridiculously more for absolutely no gain at all wrapped around "premium" marketing.
my legion slim 7 with magnesium casing and fingerprint scanner from 2021 feels premium after watching this.
Please help me between a Lenovo legion pro7 with Intel 9 and a Lenovo thinkpad with Intel 7 which are the best choice for an IA engineering student
I am waiting for the delivery of my 7i 8th gen today. I bought a mint used one because I want the ability to return it. I am not a gamer at all only video and photo editing. So the screen specs are a bit of a bummer for me but the 4 grand for 9i is not an option right now. I am going to search you channel to see if you reviewed the Asus Pro Book pro. That screen is pretty serious for color grading. Thank you. Great channel and video.
I haven't had many Asus laptops this year, I guess if you are concerned about colours you may want to try and get an OLED laptop. If I am honest I always edit on my 38" ultra wide so the screen hasn't been an issue for me, it looks good and is very responsive but certainly not the most colour accurate. I would recommend calibrating it though if you plan on editing on it
@@MashITTech Thanks for taking the time. I have a pro 4k specs BENq 32 inch on my desktop but the idea with this laptop is when I'm on the road. Can I please ask one more question. I just got my Lenovo 7i intel 13900 pro laptop today. It's weird how the ram upgrade is. Like it's dirty secret. No one is sure. Leveno says 32 is max and plenty of people are using 64gb. As an editor I need more ram but is it a waste since it slow you down to 4800MHZ. I just bought and may return 2 32gb sticks of DDR5 5200MHZ. Is that ok. I know the one tech on youtube used 4800 but I can't get that delievered on time. I'm not tech so I want to ask you. What do you think? Still not sure I'll keep this laptop but so far it's pretty cool. One guy with a popular channel only got 2 percent more specs with adobe premiere. YIKES this is what made me wonder.
When this laptop gonna be available in india ???
Bro.. I just want that MiniLED. Why won't Legion also gave it to Legion 7?😢😢😢😢
Hi, with discount codes i can get the 9i fully specked (4090 RTX, 64 GB RAM, 2 TB) for £3,700.. at this price point do you think it is worth the price. I can also get the 7i, fully specked for £2,200. What would you do if you were me? the mini LED is really swaying me to the 9i and i love the design .. I assume i could keep/upgrade the 9i for years to come?
As amazing as the 9i is, it’s not worth £1500 more than the 7i for the screen and better build quality! I would get the 7i as it’s still a great machine and put the £1500 towards something else
@@MashITTech thanks for the reply 😊 the 7i seems like the sensible choice .. but the inner kid in me wants the shiny new thing. I'm going to think about it for a couple of weeks, I'm in no rush
@user-ql1ot4gx9v im curious! what you end up with?😊
Bro is ready to sale a kidney for a gaming laptop 💀
Any hinges problem for these lenovo laptops? I got a problem with MSI laptop and I don't want to have a same problem for the new gaming laptop that I'm going to buy.
I have been using the legions since 2020 and our original unit which Gary has been heavily using for editing has been severely abused and has no hinge or build issues 👍
9i for me!
I love your content!! :D
Thank you mate 😀
*2:85* He mis pulled the lid lol
talking of lol since when has a minute had more than 60 seconds 🤣
Lol😂
Very helpful video
Pays your money, takes your choice. Neither is right nor wrong
Great job and great review . Ihave question :
I have legion 5 pro ryzen 7 7745hx rtx 4070 . In my lenovo vantage i have gpu overclock option but dont have cpu overclock option on menu . Any advice or info?
Unfortunately there isn’t the option to overclock the ryzen version. I am still looking for tools to do it manually
@@MashITTech sadly . thank you btw
A silly attempt at segmentation. Why not just call them 7i and 7i Pro. The price diff is enormous for just some stripped off tiny details. Well, the screen and the beautiful lid may be worth a little extra to some, but no way that much. I's like they expect people to buy it just because it is expensive and have a "brand". No way I would go for the 9i.
Love that sardaukar scene from Dune though. 😎
I've been wanting to try gaming peripherals on a laptop for a while now because with a desktop you can't change the polling rate of the keyboard. And the mouse can do 125hz like the trackpad but there's no ground if you change it to the other two options 500hz/1000hz.
Snagged a Legion 7 with a 4090 for 50% the cost of the 9. Could literally buy two of them for the price of one with the sale. Easy decision.
im getting 7hors out of my 7i 4090 just need to tune it 8 hours web bruising 5 hours of hd video playback not bad for intel latop at all
i want more companies to make sff pc with this type of spec
I wold add that the 7 has a 240 Hz display while the 9 only a 165 Hz, I think that for 4 grand it had to brink 240 Hz to the table, esetially beacause it is a gaming pc and it has the specs to run at high fps in most of the games... What a shame
Legion 9i 🔥 🔥 🔥
price cannot be justified for 9i.
opted for 7i 4080. despite loving carbon fiber and forged carbon lets be honest we wont be looking at it much at all. plastic build wont affect me at all either.
for the extra 1000+ dollars, can get something else
I subbed today! 😁
Thank you 🤩
Just the review I was waiting for! Now that they’re pretty much the same price point, would you recommend the Legion 9i or the Alienware x16? Appreciate all the work you put into these comparisons!
if the price is the same I would take the Legion 9. As much as I love the x16, the soldered ram, 300nit screen, worse CPU and power delivery makes it inferior to the legion 9
The 9i is better but I just got the x16 with a 4080 an i9 and 32g of ram (6000mhz) plus a qhd 240hz screen for $2600 at that price point the x16 is very compelling. The x16 also has better built in speakers and more of them. And a slightly better keyboard. Other then that the 9i wins
Why the hell would you put liquid cooling in a laptop? Its going to have to be refilled or replaced at some point just like with AIO in tower PCs.
with the fact it seems to offer no real benefit at this point its more of a gimmick and if it ran dry would probably perform the same
What game you playing at 5:24
That was modern warfare 2 multiplayer
Is not a AdobeRGB 100%, correct.
Ty for the comparison could you possibly make a video on how to undervolt and overclock in a legion 7i pro cause i am scared i eill go too far and burn the gpu lol
I still need to do the 7 review so will try and add something in there for you 👍
i currently have legion 7 pro from 2022. i will update when gta 6 will be released on pc.
With the right discounts the 9i w/ a RTX 4090 can be purchased at $3200 + tax in US as of October 21, 2023. But get that 7i 💁🏻♂️
How because I can't get it lowered then $3,700 not including tax.
@@user-ut7vi6mr5dif you have ID ie first responder, nurse, or military discount combined w/ the current available discounts- pre tax $3212.72 and after tax $3437.62, this was my order total w/ a 4090
@@user-ut7vi6mr5d GAMINGCTO code + CELEBRATE2023 code gets you to $3,465.84, then you get another 6-10% cash back with Rakuten.
I got my 7i for 2199 4090. extra 1k for fake water cooling and miniled not worth it
@@joshuam4993 Thank you for providing your input. I must agree with your logic.
I have the 4090 model but i having difficulty opening it, what do i do ?
Just open it handhanded from the middle. Or probably there is something on the mechanism. But you should claim warranty while you can anyway😅.
I've never been this early. 😅
Nice review 👌
Getting ready to sell my kidney as we speak
Haha well done mate 😀
Legion's don't feel as exciting as they used to for me
The 7 has really been stripped back this year which is a real shame
В чем смысл мерить температуру пирометром, на микросхемах температура выше на 20-30 градусов ?? Да клавиши теплые будут всегда.