2021 Triumph Speed Twin | The BEST Performance Retro?? 🤔
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- Triumph Speed Twin is a bike I loved when I rode it last year but for 2021 it's been updated. New engine internals, new suspension and upgraded brakes but what does it ride like? Join me to find out 😎
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The perfect retro in my opinion. Appreciating the amount of work that you must be putting into each video, with all those cameras on the go. Just in a different league.
Thanks Alastair, I appreciate that you appreciate it 😁👍 I love to see the suspension etc working
@@LambChopRides it hurts my head just imagining you scrolling through ALL that 360 footage. It’s got to be so time consuming. But I suspect you’ve got a “system” now, after doing it for a while now.
Unfortunately some folk’s use of 360 cameras actually reduces the quality of their videos. No names, but I’m sure you know what I mean.
Did you see the Kawasaki Z900 RS lately??
Thanks Chopsie. My first bike was a 1972 Triumph Trophy 500 so this one really tugs at my heart strings. Great review.
Another great review Chops... Speed Twin is a great looking bike, but don't like the exhaust tips now I liked the old all in one brushed chrome look.
I have a 2022 Speedmaster and I love it.
Though may one day get a second Triumph. I just can't get over the build quality.
Stopped at my Triumph dealer Saturday morning for some service on my Tiger 900 and they had one of these on the floor. Thing is a beauty! Great video!
Just rode this in 33c heat! Loved it! Laughing my head off as I pulled away at the light like a dragster! Twisty roads, and I flung it round , really nice handling bike. I'm around 5"11 and 90kg , was comfortable enough for me!
The 2022 is even better. What a monster!
These bikes are at the top of my want list!! Triumph had much better paint jobs on the gas tank for the previous generation though.... these new ones are way too plain for such a beautiful bike. Still love the look though, and the performance seems to be top notch.
Such a ‘clean’ look… fantastic. I’d more than welcome one into the garage. Great work chops. 👍
Yes completely agree, just need to find some space now 😀 👍
@@LambChopRides Need a shootout.... Speed Twin vs. Z900RS vs. XSR900 vs. Katana vs. .......
Love my speed twin, after riding the new one like you say not worth upgrading it was more a euro 5 update. The new one has 3 cats and it's welded in making it harder to mess with the exhaust. X pipe and some British customs predator Pro's and it sounds awesome 😎
Oh interesting regarding the welded exhaust... bloody euro5 garbage legislation 😫
Lovely bike really. Imo also one of the best looking retro styled bikes. Funny thing about your talk about smoothness @2:50 is how from the camera it looks like the bike shaking violently during the entire thing hahaha
Nice Sunday morning vid to set the day off. 😊
That's a lovely looking retro machine and Triumph have even managed to get that triple engine whistling sound into their twin as well.
Great review again Chops 👍😁
Lovely relaxing way to start my Sunday morning, thank you Chopsy, very much enjoyed 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks James 👍 😊
For me (as I get older,now 61)...this bike 'answers' most of my wishes....a Triumph,which actually has a reasonable amount of power/road usability....address one or two issues ( the seat comfort and those cheap shocks,....maybe a better paint job...or an earlier tank !)...and it should be the bike that fits my needs ( I have many,some of which will be sold to pay for it !)......as for the welded exhausts..I may get a set of downpipes from the previous model,which seem like they fit then newer bike (?)...and a decat crossover pipe....also maybe the earlier model Vance & Hines silencers.......will see......mine is on order ( paid deposit
December 2nd '21.....delivery due...May '22 !....a bit ridiculous really ).....but it does give me time to accumulate all the extra bits I want !.....ROLL ON SUMMER !...
Another solid review chops you definitely stand out above the others when reviewing a bike. Lovely bike and I'll be interested in your R9T review as I rode one some years ago and loved it.
Great review Chops
I’d like Triumph to double skin the down pipes in chrome, which would stop them discolouring. As per my old Honda CB1100; which were gorgeous.
Yes great idea, certainly now as Euro5 means welded systems etc making it harder to change systems 👍
I'm a fan of those (dis)colored pipes. To me the coloring says "Yep, we done some good riding!"
Did you say lady and gentlemen? So you know my Sally loves your work!! She will be pleased! Retro a bit like myself! 👍
Haha yes little joke, well there you go shoutout for Sally 😁
Great looking bike,great start to a Sunday morning.great video Chops.
Thanks Barry, only way to start the day 😁
Absolutely love the new bike reviewed they have done a great job in the update....
Good review Chops, loved it when I test rode it so I’ve just upgraded from my street twin to the speed twin new bike being delivered in the new year year can’t wait.
Lucky man Ian! Enjoy buddy 👍
Beautiful Bike Chopsy , I’ve got a 2023 sitting in my shed. A very happy man
Cheers keep up the great work.
G'day Mr Chops. A very good video. What a great machine. Good to look at, silky and smooth, i like that.
If i was in the mood to change my Street Triple i'd be buying one of these.
Beautiful machine! Thanks for showing her off✌️🍻
Crackin review, I love the 360 shots! Well trick!!
As always, a very nice review thank you (you rock brother). This bike on the showroom floor looks so much better than it does on video which says a lot about the new nice touches and features . I rode a Truxton RS and thought it was a terrific motorcycle it spun-up so easy almost electric and it was quite nimble. As a former R9T owner, I felt that bike’s bottom end felt rowdier and she wasn’t half bad at the top. I had an aftermarket rear shock (stock is dismal and shameful - 2016 model anyway) but the bike was well planted in the twisties. I thought the Thruxton and perhaps the SPEED , requires less effort (read body English) at a hard pace but that maybe one of the most endearing features of these bikes. Ask yourself what sensory / mechanical experience you like and how you ride. All three will wake the soul it just depends how much of a shake you need. I will ride the SPEED, but I may end with another R9T. The jury is out, cheers.
Thanks very much 👍 must say the R NineT has been impressive but holding out for a dry ride to test the handling properly. Thanks for the feedback though 👍
Enjoyable! Being 6'2" myself I appreciate the comments about peg-seat position. The lack of seat height for the passenger: I know that keeping the fairly flat seat makes the bike more 'retro,' but my GF (5'6") doesn't like being stuck behind me with no view. If I owned the bike I'd be looking into an aftermarket seat with a higher pillion portion (and better comfort all around?). Lighting - I wish reviews would address the quality of night lighting. One of the most dangerous things (for those of us who ride at night) is poor corner lighting. I think it became a serious problem with the move away from round headlights to animal eye headlights (they cut off the throw at the top). Please reviewers, consider adding this aspect to your reviews.
Another quality vid. Let's just be thankful of the top quality experience with LCR vids. like watching a one man top gear. Merry Christmas big fella.
Thanks buddy merry Christmas to you too 👍
Hi chopsy awesome vlog again that's a good looking triumph speed twin mate anyway you take care and ride safe TTFN
Thanks Thumper 👍
I suddenly realised I was paying lots of attention to this video...am I getting old ? - I even thought that fitting a fatter seat would give more comfort and legroom !! Great vid as always Chopsy 👍
Haha it happens to us all Nick 🤣 👍
Its not age
Its also a very capable machine
Not like the old days.
The Triumph King & Queen seat lifts you up 15-20mm at the expense of losing your cool! But then put a cool cover seat cover on and bingo another 8mm and mile munching comfort!!!
More leg room sir? Go to Tec Triumph get their pegs and droppers, gives 30mm leg room! Bliss!
I think the new 12-spoke looks better than the older 7-spoke (not 9) on the Speed Twin retro. More spokes looks more retro to me. "R9T models there's hundreds of them" lol!
well done, well done! Getting ready to punt my 2000 BMWR100S for the Speed Twin - I know its entirely different but I like the naked look (last was a 2013 1200 Sportster bobber) and retro of the Triumph. Thank you choppy!
6,2” & 60….still nowhere near ready to go retro, but I do like em…..nice review as always chopsy 👍
Honda missed a trick with their CB1100, great review
Thruxton is more money but 2x the bike and styling IMO,
Also CB11000R 143 H/P albeit a bit more of a modern retro and Z900RS 110 H/P should not be overlooked as well
I'll be a bit surprised if Honda don't remake the cb1100 but using the Africa Twin engine instead of the air cooled in line 4
Just put money down on a red one, pick it up end of June, cant wait. Love the look of the front end over the old one. We dont get a chance for a test ride here, they sell as soon as they hit the floor, so your review is really helpful on me taking a punt. Cheers from NZ
Great bike. Between this the RS and the RnineT, would pick the RS. Otherwise all are very nice bikes. Thanks for sharing this. Keep up.
Another banging review, Chopsy. 👏 We're looking forward to the R nine T comparo.
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Evening, from the PNW. I modified my Continental GT, brakes, exhaust, suspension, clip ons, rear sets. It's just so much fun on the mountain roads, where my Yamaha is going to send me to jail. The locals think the Enfield is a restored '60s bike. I have to tell them it's only six months old. Maybe it's the 1979 tax disc that throws them off.
I bet it is Arthur! I need to get my arse on one sometime soon! 👍
14:49 My Buell Ulysses accelerates like this in top gear [5th] from the same revs.
Excellent review. You are much more knowledgeable than the vast majority of TH-cam motorcycle vloggers. I will look forward the the RNineT review. My favourite 1200 cc bike would be the Urban G/S variant.
Typically great review as usual Chopsy. This Triumph should suit me perfectly as a second bike. Cheers mate.
I would probably go for the Kwaka simply because I currently own a twin, soon to have a triple and therefore would want an inline four. Both lovely bikes. Cheers Andy.
Sorry Choppsy overlapped with TMFs vlog this morning der.
Perfect way to start a Sunday morning. Thanks Chops!
Thanks Jamee 👍
Best real world bike reviews you'll get on TH-cam
Keep up the good work Chops
Thanks Martin 👍
I just finished watching both your videos, this one and your review of the RnineT. I am getting what you mean buy this bike being more about the ride and less about the bike.
I have ridden the RnineT. That being the best bike I have ever tied.
This one just looks beautiful. Do you think the seat will become softer after living with it for a while?
I loved the Z900RS but it was let down by the snatchy throttle, not the tyres, though my ride was fairly sedate at the MCN Festival. Unfortunately I couldn't get a ride on the Speed Twin...and I've now decided as I've already got a twin I'm now looking for triple or a four
Can't wait for the R Nine T comparison. I rode one and loved it. Retro looks retro ride.
Nice vid!
Wish you'd try the R1250R. The South African boys at Bike show thought highly of it, except the looks : )
Agree. Great looking machine 😎
This is one where Triumph has absolutely nailed it! I wish the new Speed Triple was tuned similar to this - a Superduke rival maybe! I would have bought one no doubt! And I agree, grunt over revs any day :)
They should have made the new speed triple with the t - plane engine
@@Bow-to-the-absurd God save us all from the T-Plane crank. Whoever it was at Triumph who designed that awful crank wants shoving up the arse with the butt end of a Ragman's trumpet
Have you ridden the new Speed Triple, it just wants to lift the front, how much power you want???
Should have more red paint.
Great looking bike though.
But i dont understand the combination of m50 calipers, non adjustable forks and nasty looking rear shocks.
Its a bit of a mismatch in terms of those items.
Better to have lower spec caliper and up the fork and shock capabilities.
Ahh so it's a fish supper run with Teapot next. Nice !!
Best looking exhaust layout! Just my opinion mind.
Yes great isn't it Jason 👍
Nice review as usual. Test rode one of these about 6 weeks ago. Went on my 2000 Thunderbird Sport a 900 triple, also tested a street triple RS (a second hand one of which I bought). My personal opinion was that of the 3 bikes I rode that day inc mine, this was third favourite. Just a bit underwhelmed having read all the rave reports. I felt it vibey. Keep up the good work 👍🏻
Great video, easily my favourite bike blog channel now Chops, keep up the awesome work mate 👍
Cheers chops.....would be interested on your take of the 2021 MT09sp. ..having owned the 2018 model (which i didnt get on with)but recently tested the the 2021 base model the other day and have to say that i found it a real improvement ....so often bikes are updated with no great sense of betterment ,but now find myself mulling the purchase of the SP mmmm
The Speed Twin cannot match the very tight hairpin handling capability of an agile MT09 SP on a serious mountain pass which can rely on plenty of in-gear punch (that includes high gear torque as well extra power from 7’000 rpm right to the limiter at 11’600 rpm - the low weight certainly helps - my 2020 model weighing in at optimized 182,7 kgs wet).
Very nice vid & bike. A classy machine. Triumph have definitely nailed the retro with modern equipment. Speaking of retros, any chance you can get yourself on the new Moto Guzzi V7 maybe? Supposedly a big improvement over the previous version.
I reckon those brake pads are a bit softer due to all the squealing brake complaints triumph have had tbh. But yeah, love it. I know some people don’t like that it’s gone more modern, but tbh there’s so, so, so many Bonny’s they need one that’s in that neo-retro lean. I don’t want any more fancy electronics, but yeah I really like this.
Have you ridden the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650, I would like to see what you make of it. Half the price of the Triumph 🤔. Great Sunday Video.
And less than half the performance and a fraction of the reliability
I really like the multi spoke wheels
Great bike and great camera and editing work!
I'll be interested in your BMW R nine T review.. back to back with this triumph 👍
Looks and sounds very nice 👍 great review as always chops
Thanks Pete 👍
I love the look of this bike. Ummm, it's a very tasty looking bike in that red colour. Surely Chopsy 1200cc twin is more than enough fun to have on it? Despite the fact it's not super naked bike. I think you should do a comparison video, comparing it to the BMW R Nine T or the Kawasaki 900 that you reviewed a month ago. Chopsy you answered my prayers about the the need for a comparison video between these bikes by the end of the video. Fantastic!👍
There is something to be said about an parallel twin engine. Triumph seems to have been making them forever. Parallel Twins never let you down and give you all you need in terms of performance. Particularly that lower end torque This I think gives it the advantage over the Kawasaki inline four. It will be interesting to compare this parallel engine to the BMW boxer engine.
Not sure I could live with one as my only bike but lovely bike. Now I’m over 60 and the body is starting to creak I could be tempted off my heavy super comfortable GSA🤣
Great review, can’t wait to see the R9T comparison video!
Great video - really enjoyed your comments!
Weirdly for me I had a test ride on this bike a couple of days ago. Loved it except for the comfort….seat and peg position just seemed a bit off for me…had a few aches and pains after an hour….too cramped. Oh well👍
Looks better than the out going model
perfect for riding between pastie shops ay Chops ? nice one mate another good review
Great review again chops. I’d be tempted but even at six foot they feel too small, I’d just get that gorilla feeling. A fine looking bike though.
Yes it's a shame isn't it, I feel its way to small for me unfortunately 😕
I own the 2019 “old” version. Part exchanged it with an RNINET Scrambler which I couldn’t get on with. Great looking but the gearbox was too tractor like unlike the smoothness of this silky parallel twin. Best bike I’ve ever owned. Cheers chop
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The bike's a charmer! I really appreciate the upgrade in forks and brakes, as the conventional telescopic forks where always a turn of for me. It still needs a set of some proper pipes. All the Euro 5 bikes sound like shit, imho!
Looks wonderful, have to agree. I think that still a bit of advantage goes to the RS. Sure, it is personal. Drop by man, when have time.
I test rode this and the z900rs. I found the Triumph to be a bit lethargic at the throttle with less than ideal suspension. I ended up buying the Kawasaki which just needs an ecu tune to perfect the throttle touchiness. I think it mostly came down to ride by wire vs cable actuated throttle. I prefer the rawness of cable throttle.
Your review of the 2021 Triumph Speed Twin has convinced me - sell the big1983 Suzuki GS 1100 and buy the Trumpy. Note: I have a 1969 Triumph Trophy. Rebuilt it. Make it a trailer queen. Why have a bike and not ride it everywhere? If it ain't covered in road grime and insects, you're not riding it enough. This from Aus, where if you don't have a bike, you ain't living.
This is the 6th review of a Triumph motorcycle that I have watched and every one was done in the UK with wet roads. Don't you guys ever see the sun over there?
Anyway, Nice review but I had to end it early because I got the very distinct impression that you were constantly justifying faults and making excuses as though you were beholden to Triumph for loaning you the bike. Cramped, Lousy Brakes "the brake ARE there...", Crap suspension, Very little engine braking, Not sporty feeling, Not for the twisties, No LED headlight, Vibrates like a MFer over 5K RPM. So what else should we know, is there a center stand? What is the range with that tank? Do the pegs scrape when you lean it over for a curve (you know, if it ever dries out over there). Anyway, thanks for the review. I did learn a lot. Thumbs up and subscribed.
Another most enjoyable review, thanks Chops. 👍👍👍🇬🇧
Chops, loved the review as always. Can you tell us what phone mount you are using? Looks like it's simply clamped to the center of the handlebar.
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As I race towards 60
One of these with a TTS supercharger starts to be appealing...
Just not Yet
Would like to see the beemer comparison though I’m trying to buy British going forward. That said I’m interested in the differences between this and the Thruxton RS which I think may be my next bike.
Nice one Chops. Love the Speed Twin 👍
Nice review, thanks
Speed twin is pretty good but for me the R Nine T is the best retro.
Hi was that a sat nav or your phone with a sat nav programme in it ? Cheers, Pete! Ps I bought the Bike 9th March 24,
No protection on the radiator and a short mudguard - great idea!
Love the look, would like the bike to be a bit taller with about 15 more HP, just because I want 115hp. LOL… So, this is my dilemma , 6’3.5” tall, 33.5” inseam, 247 pounds… want to get a Triumph again, but want it to fit better than the Street Triple 2018 RS did. Any thoughts? Currently own the 2018 R1200GS which ain’t going anywhere. Thoughts Chops?
Nice one👍. But what’s flapping about on the exhaust at 15.22? Two things not addressed from my viewpoint, the front mudguard is still way too short and won’t stop crap from the road splashing over the front of the engine. Secondly, those clocks almost appear horizontal which is fine for a tall chap like yourself but how visible are they to a smaller chap or chappess?
Hi, very good video thanks mate, you mentioned it is your preferred retro bike, do you consider the thruxton rs in your choice or not ? I will go to try them as I am hesitating between the cafe racer look and the more classic one of the speed, I am interested by your feedback as on your video of the thruxton you were very enthusiastic.... I tried already the Z900RS and the previous speed twin and the BMW R nine T, I preferred the chassis of the Z, I enjoyed the torque of the nine T, this is why now I consider again the triumph with the improvement they made on it...
Great reveiw video Chopsy. Love all the content mate. Keep up the good work.
Quick question though…???
Being a fatty, only a few McD’s away from your good self and 6’2” tall. How would this bike fit?
It will be my first bike as well. Fell in love with the looks of this and the speedmaster. Both of which you have reveiwed. Any recommendations as cant find a Speed Twin to test ride.
Any help would be much appreciated. Worried i might be a bit to cramped on the Speed Twin. Pillion passenger on the odd occasion.
Cheers big fella!👍🏻
Great review Mr chops I like the bike thanks from Danny
I think I prefer the looks of the Z900RS and the fact its a 4 cylinder, but would prefer the engine characteristics of the Speed Twin. Great review as always Chops,
What should be mentioned is the considerable difference in size between the Speed Twin and the Z900RS. The Speed Twin feels quite small in comparison to me, and I'm only 6'0" ft/182 cm. For longer distances I find the Z900RS much more comfortable because of more relaxed ergonomics and a much better seat.
I was riding up that road and couldn’t believe how much crap there was on the road
Thank you
Which is more fun this Speed Twin or the Z900rs?
Still getting used to mine as I just bought it 2 weeks ago, but I do have some disappointments. 1. Turn sigs are not self-cancelling (?) 2. The kickstand comes up between the peg and the shifter. Difficult to access. 3. You have to remove the sprocket cover to add coolant. What were they thinking? On my T120 there is a neck sticking out of the left side with a cap on it.. I am a little surprised at the gear ratios in road mode. I'm in 5th in a city block and 6th at 50.
The previous gen was an eye catcher for sure, and despite it's wee foibles, all bikes have them, it was very well received. I think on this model though, Triumph have overplayed their hand. USD forks and radial calipers definitely do not belong on this. I get they are looking for bullet points on the brochure, the big recognised manufacturers names in there, to differentiate the model years, but I think it's to the detriment of the bike overall. Just my opinion of course, I'm sure loads of folks will love it :>)
Love the review, btw do you have the photomatic helmet shield? I was thinking of buying one i just don't know if it's dark enough. what are your thoughts?
Alright chops, sorry for asking this unrelated question on this video but, I've been going through all your old supermoto video and I am loving getting to watch those bikes being built again, in one of your videos you said if you could only have a one bike garage it would be a supermoto. I'm just wondering if this is still the case? I'm in two minds of selling my gsxr 750 and heading down this route 😂
Well it's a good question and what I have learned is yes! But it really depends what your mates are riding.. get a few people on SM's and it's an absolute hoot! It's no fun however riding an SM with mates on litre bikes 😫
@@LambChopRides that's the thing... Most of my mates have sold up... I did think of converting it to a track bike but I don't wanna wreck it as its pretty clean.. Then I thought a SM would be a good idea. I don't know 😔 haha
Nice Review of a bike that I'm certainly interested in as well as the Kwak z900rs se but after your review of the Speed it certainly looks like the one to go for great review Chop's👌🏻👍🏻
Try both Dave, the RS is certainly lovely but does need throttle sorting
@@LambChopRides yeah I was going to test both as I have both dealers near me so that's a no brainer to test both I was hoping they sort the throttle issues for next year's version? 🤔🤞🏻 Cheers for the reply Fella keep the great reviews coming great viewing Chop's 👌🏻👍🏻
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Hi Dave, I’m a little late to the party, but I tried both in California and, although I love them both, I went with the Z900rs.
1. At 5’6”, it actually fits me better ergonomically, which is most important to me. It’s got to feel like a “shoe that fits.”It sits a bit taller with the standard seat I have on it. It has more leg room with lower, more forward pegs and more comfortable seat than the Triumph. I am able to squeeze my knees at the perfect spot to relieve back and hand pressure. Also, I did add 1” bar risers to limit my forward lean. I am on tippy toes, but usually 1-foot it at stops.
2. Z900rs is sportier, handles better with lower center of gravity, and has more torque and hp. Yet, you can still just cruise on it if you want to.
3. 4 cylinder vs parallel twin is a personal preference.
4. I think Z900rs has a bigger tank capacity in that lovely, unique tear-drop tank.
5. Both have great fit and finish. Z900rs wins on paint IMO, especially with Candytone brown and the green and yellow ones!
6. Dials , numbers and info are easier to read on Z900rs.
7. I don’t experience the twitchy throttle here in US. Mine is as smooth as butter! I think that’s a Euro problem!
8. My 2018 already came with upside down front forks, great brakes, 2 levels of traction control, ABS, and LED lights!
I went for comfort and performance, as well as looks. But everyone is different and some bikes just don’t fit, either ergonomically or performance wise.
Good luck to you, Dave. I am sure you would be happy with either one!
@@scottashdown3686 Hey Scott Wow very late reply but better late than never hehe? 😆 Very much appreciated all you have said all points taken in good and proper I've certainly not made my mind up yet but I will see what next year brings to the party now all the best Dave.. 👌🏻👍🏻
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Great vid Chops, if you were 6ft 1" and could only have one 'retro' bike then would you go for a new Speed twin 1200 or the new Kawasaki Z900 RS SE???
Actually really tough call... probably kawasaki but it's super close
Rode one last week and did find the throttle snatched on pick up so wonder if your example had throttle spacers fitted? Also you claimed the weight is 112kgs wet ~ that’ll be old money I guess 😂
ahem ... did. you say 20 stone? Last I remember it was 18 :)
Yes 😫