Love warlock. My only critique, and this may just come down to play style, is that if you roll too many green shadow wrath items, survivability and oom can become a real problem. With that blue chest you're around 2200/4000. I just don't think that's enough HP for a lock, especially at Gedon & Garr.
One thing I think is important to consider in a Guild environment is that Mana Igniting Cord should preferably go to Mages before Warlocks due to the fact, as you mentioned, that Warlock tier 2 is comparable to Mana Igniting Cord. Whereas Mage tier 2 is not, with less spell power and no crit at all.
Alive what is the best phase 1/ phase 2 gear for PvP? The raid setup seems to be very much a glass cannon, which might not work out very well in pvp. If you could do a video about that I would defiantly watch it.
Gloves of Spell Mastery are made by tailors and it will cost way too much gold, the recipe has a 0.02% drop chance from the Blackhand Iron Guards in Blackrock Spire so... not gonna happen. I couldn't find any pre-raid drops, please tell me I'm wrong.
Thanks Alive been talking to my guild about an alternative talent build which would seem to burst super hard and I didn't have to go get a gear list to help me cause of you lol.
Great vid alive! For a bit of a noob who is just hitting levels 50-60 and loves dungeons, how would You prioritise each instance? (Factoring in potential loot, drop rates etc.?) Thanks!
Please make a video about enslave demon and its uses, i´ve felt like warlock is just a budget mage for awhile now would really like to see some unique things warlock can do
Warlocks and mages are wildly different. Locks are closer to hunters than they are to Mages. We have huge kits with plenty of utility spells to respond to a variety of situations, with high on demand and sustained damage. Add the fact that you get a pet and it adds to your versatility. This is why they are like Hunters. Mages are very similar to rogues in that they are one-trick ponies with pretty basic rotations/toolkits. Rogues, for example, stunlock and keep you under cc while they burst you down. Mages keep you slowed/frozen while bursting you down. obviously this is all oversimplified, but warlocks and mages are polar opposites when it comes to how they play and what abilities they have. Also, they are the second most PvP focused class, only behind Hunters.
Skuls Ghastly Touch is 14 SD, and 131 top wand damage. Its the best wand. The Dragon Fingers +SD is 11, not 21, please remember our gear is based on 1.12, it was 11 since 1.10 and is 11 in live. Masters Hat is 1.13 item it will not be added til P4, P1 BIS would be the Green Lens of Shadow Wrath. Which is +36 and the highest you will get till P4. Same Applies to all Masters gear, that was added for Pre BC catch up. Its not in Classic. Where he says masters, you want Felcloth or Eternal, and they are not as high in SD as he is saying.
Along the lines of not going for Robe of the Void, Pristine Hide of the Beast should never go to casters since R10 Helm and Shoulders will carry both Warlock and Mage in phase 2 (+23 sp dmg set bonus). The amount of farming for PHotB isn't a guarantee versus the rank 10 PvP awards. PHotB should also go to Feral tanks for Breastplate of Bloodthirst. Tanks should have priority if it is a guild run since early progression relies on good tank gear. Feral tanks are still useful in early progression and guild runs. Gloves of Spell Mastery isn't worth the mats (World BoE recipe drop, 10 Mooncloth, 10 Ghost Dye, 6 Golden Pearls, 6 Huge Emeralds) when you can get Hands of Power (26 spell) until you get Felcloth Gloves in phase 2 (33 shadow). 1% crit is worth around 14-15 spell damage in higher gear levels, probably 13-14 in lower gear levels because spell crit needs high spell damage to scale. Stacking spell crit is fine, but you will improve the overall raid dps for warlocks, whereas Warlocks chasing spell dmg and spell hit will have higher individual dps. So just a heads up if you are chasing meter placement. Also getting a Drakestone of Shadow Wrath is extremely lucky. The amount of farming for that is insane since it is a 5% chance for the stone, then another 5% for the Shadowrath
Why do you choose Robe of Volatile power as raid BiS in P1? Do you make it dependent on having all the other BIS pieces (bc the more SP, the higher crit scales, iirc?) or does crit actually scale pretty high on classic WoW? No other guide chooses that chest piece as raid BiS in P1, that's why I am asking and I have never heard any warlock choosing that chest piece over "...of shadow wrath".
@@AnnihilationXable unless there is an hidden mechanic that makes your first spells have a higher ciritical chance it's the same, increasing your crit chance by like 5% won't make you crit all the time but when you don't crit you do lower damages- it's the same dps.
Alive I have a very hypothetical question. Imagine if you had a godlike tank that could maintain aggro no matter what you do. Would fire warlock spaming searing pain imolate and conflag beat shadow warlock?
You can buy Robe of the void from ah with only 20g... there is no point farming it... There are plenty of patterns in ah, because only locks can use them... I farmed demonic runes for 4 hours, and the rest of he stuff was around 100g from ah... Not bad
@@IamAliveTv witchblade+drakestone = +41 (shadow)spelldmg focial + drakestone = 27(shadow)spelldmg+1 crit soul harvester = 24 (shadow)spelldmg+1 hit star of mystaria is 1% hit you prefer it over dark advisor pendant which is 20 shadowdmg so you actually say 1% hit better than 20 shadowdmg which would make soulharvester like 44 shadowdmg -> owning both your suggestions ;)
@@ajo12Oba I am not saying 1 hit is worth over 20 shadow damage. Dark advisors pendent shouldn't be in the game untill phase 2 according to Ion. Neither will anastari heirloom. Also, drakestone rolls 23 damage, making it a total of 30. So yes, 44 spell damage or 30 spell damage and 1 crit both beat should harvester. In fact, crit is slightly higher valued than hit early into the game. If you want an extensive dive into the math then pm me on discord and I'll link it
Drakestone of Shadowrath is a pain to farm. Just a heads up because of the Owl and of the Eagle rolls are more common, on top of the rarity of the Drakestone itsslf
Man robe of the void pattern was 30g in AH.. materials for 300tailor was like 200g.. sold greens and baggs for 120g and 3 hours.. means 80g for 1-300 tailor and the recipe.. now u just need to hunt the mats for robe itself.. 2hours? So 5 hours 80g for something that lasts u several months? Not worthy? Cmon
Argues to take 'of shadow wrath' cause sp is super important... then contradicts it by saying the int from winter night for the stats over sp. Ok buddy good guide...
Sounds like you misinterpreted. I am not arguing that "of shadow wrath" is SUPER important. Just that some slots have of shadow wrath as bis. As for the robe, I clearly state that robe of the void is better, but is only marginally better and is not worth the time and gold investment
@@IamAliveTv I understand just fine you are making contradictory arguments you just don't realize it... You could make the same argument for the Omnicast Boots over of shadow wrath but you didn't. People seem to assume that getting shadow wrath will be cheap or easy, I have no idea where that is coming from.
@@SYDWORLD I never stated that it will cheap or easy. I'm well aware it will not be. At one point in the video I point out that they are expensive. However, this video is meant to show the best items you can wear. Disregarding value. That's why I ended up putting robe of the void on the actual sheet rather than winter night. I could have carried over that concept to the other 'of shadow wrath' pieces as well. If that is what you're arguing
Pankus No, you‘re plain wrong. He takes several minutes in the video explaining exactly why Robe of the Void isn‘t really worth obtaining yet it IS technically better, you just didn‘t really listen.
Remember, Warlock is the most alpha caster in Classic wow
Untrue. The communist fire mages rule the world.
@@Ingeb91 fire mage is strong, but not in an alpha way. They just get lucky blizzard didn't know how to balance talents
Yeah because improved shadowbolt is so balanced in naxx gear. Critting for 15k on thaddius. Perfectly balanced.
Reality is, we make sure we get to execute phase before the tank dies of old age. The most entertaining way to play IMO.
@@Ingeb91 True. I could not have put that better into words myself. So are we 2nd or what then?
Love warlock. My only critique, and this may just come down to play style, is that if you roll too many green shadow wrath items, survivability and oom can become a real problem. With that blue chest you're around 2200/4000. I just don't think that's enough HP for a lock, especially at Gedon & Garr.
One thing I think is important to consider in a Guild environment is that Mana Igniting Cord should preferably go to Mages before Warlocks due to the fact, as you mentioned, that Warlock tier 2 is comparable to Mana Igniting Cord. Whereas Mage tier 2 is not, with less spell power and no crit at all.
Alive what is the best phase 1/ phase 2 gear for PvP? The raid setup seems to be very much a glass cannon, which might not work out very well in pvp. If you could do a video about that I would defiantly watch it.
you can buy the pattern for robe of the void. you dont have to farm scholomance until it drops thus eliminating a bunch of time
Gloves of Spell Mastery are made by tailors and it will cost way too much gold, the recipe has a 0.02% drop chance from the Blackhand Iron Guards in Blackrock Spire so... not gonna happen.
I couldn't find any pre-raid drops, please tell me I'm wrong.
Alive, I'm not sure if you PVP or not, But if you do, prior to Phase 2 a warlock PVP gear bis video would be awesome!
Thanks Alive been talking to my guild about an alternative talent build which would seem to burst super hard and I didn't have to go get a gear list to help me cause of you lol.
Great vid alive!
For a bit of a noob who is just hitting levels 50-60 and loves dungeons, how would
You prioritise each instance?
(Factoring in potential loot, drop rates etc.?)
Thanks!
Please make a video about enslave demon and its uses, i´ve felt like warlock is just a budget mage for awhile now would really like to see some unique things warlock can do
Warlocks and mages are wildly different. Locks are closer to hunters than they are to Mages. We have huge kits with plenty of utility spells to respond to a variety of situations, with high on demand and sustained damage. Add the fact that you get a pet and it adds to your versatility. This is why they are like Hunters.
Mages are very similar to rogues in that they are one-trick ponies with pretty basic rotations/toolkits. Rogues, for example, stunlock and keep you under cc while they burst you down. Mages keep you slowed/frozen while bursting you down. obviously this is all oversimplified, but warlocks and mages are polar opposites when it comes to how they play and what abilities they have.
Also, they are the second most PvP focused class, only behind Hunters.
Can you make a google docs spreadsheet with all this info
Great video man !
Skuls Ghastly Touch is 14 SD, and 131 top wand damage. Its the best wand. The Dragon Fingers +SD is 11, not 21, please remember our gear is based on 1.12, it was 11 since 1.10 and is 11 in live.
Masters Hat is 1.13 item it will not be added til P4, P1 BIS would be the Green Lens of Shadow Wrath. Which is +36 and the highest you will get till P4. Same Applies to all Masters gear, that was added for Pre BC catch up. Its not in Classic. Where he says masters, you want Felcloth or Eternal, and they are not as high in SD as he is saying.
Great video!
As always awesome content, keep this going dude
Along the lines of not going for Robe of the Void, Pristine Hide of the Beast should never go to casters since R10 Helm and Shoulders will carry both Warlock and Mage in phase 2 (+23 sp dmg set bonus). The amount of farming for PHotB isn't a guarantee versus the rank 10 PvP awards. PHotB should also go to Feral tanks for Breastplate of Bloodthirst. Tanks should have priority if it is a guild run since early progression relies on good tank gear. Feral tanks are still useful in early progression and guild runs.
Gloves of Spell Mastery isn't worth the mats (World BoE recipe drop, 10 Mooncloth, 10 Ghost Dye, 6 Golden Pearls, 6 Huge Emeralds) when you can get Hands of Power (26 spell) until you get Felcloth Gloves in phase 2 (33 shadow). 1% crit is worth around 14-15 spell damage in higher gear levels, probably 13-14 in lower gear levels because spell crit needs high spell damage to scale.
Stacking spell crit is fine, but you will improve the overall raid dps for warlocks, whereas Warlocks chasing spell dmg and spell hit will have higher individual dps. So just a heads up if you are chasing meter placement.
Also getting a Drakestone of Shadow Wrath is extremely lucky. The amount of farming for that is insane since it is a 5% chance for the stone, then another 5% for the Shadowrath
Why do you choose Robe of Volatile power as raid BiS in P1? Do you make it dependent on having all the other BIS pieces (bc the more SP, the higher crit scales, iirc?) or does crit actually scale pretty high on classic WoW? No other guide chooses that chest piece as raid BiS in P1, that's why I am asking and I have never heard any warlock choosing that chest piece over "...of shadow wrath".
i really don't understand how crit is better for burst than spellpower.
does spellpower increase the amount of mana granted by life tap ?
but if you can kill something in 2 crits rather than 5 hits and not needing to life tap
@@AnnihilationXable unless there is an hidden mechanic that makes your first spells have a higher ciritical chance it's the same, increasing your crit chance by like 5% won't make you crit all the time but when you don't crit you do lower damages- it's the same dps.
would you swap anything out with diremaul release not sure if i should use Heliotrope cloak or not
thanks buddy, awesome video!
You think 300 spell damage is enough for a warlock without buffs? Im doing 840-860 flat damage at the moment. Just need to get an idea
Any tips for getting the gloves or helm faster? Better to just farm gold and buy them or farm mats?
So no upload in a month I need more warlock guides & tips
When's your Phase 2 video coming out?
Lock's unite!!
Felheart robe or Robe of Winter Night, which one should i wear, I have both?
These videos are great man, please keep em coming, Will you be streamer classic release?
Yep
Gloves of spell mastery are a lot more harder to get than robe of the void
On the forums with the gear section why is the preRaid BiS below the Raid BiS for the phase?
Alive I have a very hypothetical question. Imagine if you had a godlike tank that could maintain aggro no matter what you do. Would fire warlock spaming searing pain imolate and conflag beat shadow warlock?
It would not
@@IamAliveTv Can you explain why? Is it because it doenst profit from a high % of the spell damage?
@@jeandurant5908 it doesn't scale well with spellpower and doesn't have as many % damage increasing buffs/debuffs
thx for the guide!
Fantastic! TY for this.
So how often does Robe of Winther Night drop? i mean.. if we're like 500 people wanting it, it's going to be even more expensive than just crafting :P
The most important thing you forgot to mention is that you should aim for 3PT2.
What about Green Lens ? Is it Just the two headpieces mentioned ?
We need more vids bro!!
Good job!
All of this info is 100% correct gj
Hey man your videos helped me pick lock!
Harrison Raycroft glad you like my videos. This channel is also a great channel for pve
You can buy Robe of the void from ah with only 20g... there is no point farming it... There are plenty of patterns in ah, because only locks can use them... I farmed demonic runes for 4 hours, and the rest of he stuff was around 100g from ah... Not bad
Does Ony head piece factor in?
please do one of these for mage
Yaaa PLZ ...mage next!!!
Muchas gracias por la guia, y si , estoy comentando en español :D
Take days off work? Some of us have 5 baby mama's with total of 9 kids
Good stuff.
yes, Soul Harvester is actually better than focal sword+drakestone ^^ you want that juicy hit rating
It is not better than focal or witchblade. You are incorrect
@@IamAliveTv witchblade+drakestone = +41 (shadow)spelldmg
focial + drakestone = 27(shadow)spelldmg+1 crit
soul harvester = 24 (shadow)spelldmg+1 hit
star of mystaria is 1% hit you prefer it over dark advisor pendant which is 20 shadowdmg
so you actually say 1% hit better than 20 shadowdmg which would make soulharvester like 44 shadowdmg -> owning both your suggestions ;)
@@ajo12Oba I am not saying 1 hit is worth over 20 shadow damage. Dark advisors pendent shouldn't be in the game untill phase 2 according to Ion. Neither will anastari heirloom. Also, drakestone rolls 23 damage, making it a total of 30. So yes, 44 spell damage or 30 spell damage and 1 crit both beat should harvester. In fact, crit is slightly higher valued than hit early into the game. If you want an extensive dive into the math then pm me on discord and I'll link it
Drakestone of Shadowrath is a pain to farm. Just a heads up because of the Owl and of the Eagle rolls are more common, on top of the rarity of the Drakestone itsslf
Broke up with my girlfriend, so im ready!
11/10 committed to the grind
That is dedication my dude.
quit my job lol
Fucking yikes. Are there that many turbonerds going hard for classic? I'm getting excited now.
More excited. It was already unbearable, waiting this last day and a half.
Perfect. Thanks for this video :)
robe of the void is incredibly good for pvp. not worth it for raiding alone, though.
Agreed
like your videos subscribed
im guessing these stuff are relevant only for pve pretty much
I still can’t decide lock or mage!
I think loc is a lot more fun
Man robe of the void pattern was 30g in AH.. materials for 300tailor was like 200g.. sold greens and baggs for 120g and 3 hours.. means 80g for 1-300 tailor and the recipe.. now u just need to hunt the mats for robe itself.. 2hours? So 5 hours 80g for something that lasts u several months? Not worthy? Cmon
COME ON MAN!! New lock vid pls, we need you! Pvp gear. Pvp guide. Tips n tricks.
I'm not rolling Lock anymore but I came in to watch and like to show my support
There's other classes other than warlock??? :O
How about Crimson Felt Hat? will this item available in phase 1?
Most likely, yes. But it isn't better than a +41 of shadow wrath piece
@@IamAliveTv Thanks. BTW, how much is the patreon cost? Should i keep paying per month?
I’m taking my time leveling. I want to enjoy it this time around and not no life to 60. Just my personal choice.
can I call u sempay ?
You are the best!
No YOU are the best Cesar
Rip lil peep
Listening to him while leveling
I am AliveTv same :3 good luck leveling and well, you’re gonna be playing on faeralina NA ?
@@Itsjumbomuffin I'll have an alt there in tips guild. But my main is EU with progress. We going for world top
@@IamAliveTv yoow nice ! which server tho? imma be playing on GER Lucifron T_T
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Argues to take 'of shadow wrath' cause sp is super important... then contradicts it by saying the int from winter night for the stats over sp. Ok buddy good guide...
Sounds like you misinterpreted. I am not arguing that "of shadow wrath" is SUPER important. Just that some slots have of shadow wrath as bis. As for the robe, I clearly state that robe of the void is better, but is only marginally better and is not worth the time and gold investment
@@IamAliveTv I understand just fine you are making contradictory arguments you just don't realize it... You could make the same argument for the Omnicast Boots over of shadow wrath but you didn't. People seem to assume that getting shadow wrath will be cheap or easy, I have no idea where that is coming from.
@@SYDWORLD I never stated that it will cheap or easy. I'm well aware it will not be. At one point in the video I point out that they are expensive. However, this video is meant to show the best items you can wear. Disregarding value. That's why I ended up putting robe of the void on the actual sheet rather than winter night. I could have carried over that concept to the other 'of shadow wrath' pieces as well. If that is what you're arguing
@@IamAliveTv the contradiction still stands, if you care to be consistent then just be aware of it.
Pankus No, you‘re plain wrong. He takes several minutes in the video explaining exactly why Robe of the Void isn‘t really worth obtaining yet it IS technically better, you just didn‘t really listen.