As a healer main I can 100% confirm it's scary healing for a tank that plays like this the first few times. Their hp drops faster than you would expect for a tank BUT the control over each pull makes for a very smooth, clean run. Spend the first few packs learning when to heal and with which spell to not overheal and waste mana. Learn the pace needed to keep your tank alive and communicate clearly when you need mana if they're a little reckless and you will love dps tanks Since anniversay servers launched I've been learning how to tank on hardcore and while things have been smooth so far, this video will prove very useful as I move up into higher level dungeons
One of the best things that has helped me figure out what works is playing in a 4 man of warriors. The hardest part is just having the knowledge of what does what, and what better way is there other than to zug it out in a group full of "tanks" lol. It taught me openers and how to pull threat from the other warriors so i can build rage and pump to the top.
I'm still relatively new to WoW. First experience is a Hunter in SOD just blasting. I decided i wanted to warrior tank with the release of Classic Fresh and this gave me so much good info. I've tanked a few dungeons prior to watching this but now I feel even better about doing it, thank you ❤
Well I just learned how to have an easier time with my threat while levelling as a warlock. If I stand further away, it'll be longer before I pull off the Voidwalker
People underestimate warrior debufs. You use improved Demoralizing Shout and Thunder clap and u can tank any mobs. Get in Druid with Hurricane 25% attack speed reduction aoe and u can even tank any raid boss
Doesnt like cats, doesnt like warlocks, doesnt like healers. Doesnt like shirts that fit. What a madman. Looks like a 5 year old sleeping in his dads work shirt.
Hey man, I know that Fresh is the hot thing right now (I'm playing too!) but do you think there's any chance you could do a guide on the changes between SoD AQ40 and the original AQ40? I watched your PTR stream like 4 times over from the clear but a lot (especially with Viscidus) is still quite unclear. I've really been enjoying your content lately having only been watching for a few weeks, but it seems like there's a shortage of AQ40 SoD videos right now - neither me or my guildies can find an actual guide that explains the changes that were found on the PTR. Thank you in advance either way for producing so many great vids :)
I dont understand taking deep wounds/impale when you don't have axe spec/cruelty. Respec and only take them in the early 40s, when your crit chance actually starts exceeding 16-17%.
The thoughts is correct, but it is not followed through. Let me explain it briefly. For example, you are level 30 as shown in the video. You have thunder clap rank 3 and demo shout rank 2 available. Following the wowhead threat basic numbers table: thunder clap rank 3 = 64 (without dmg), demo shout rank 2 = 17. Taking into account the stances modifiers thunder clap rank 3 (in battle stance 0.8 mod) = 51,2; demo shout rank 2 (def stance 1.3 mod)= 22,1. thunder clap cost 20 rage demo shout 10 rage, so divide the threat of thunder clap by 2 to equalize them. The result is : thunder clap rank 3 (in battle stance 0.8 coef) generate per 10 rage = 25,6 demo shout rank 2 (def stance 1.3 coef) generate per 10 rage = 22,1 The conclusion is as follows. Since we are talking about Low Level Dungeons Tanking it all depends on the ranked abilities available at the current level! From this point of view it may seem that demo shout is worth to use only every 4 levels from 24 to 38, from 34 to 48 and so on when rank of demo and clap is equal. But if you take into account that thunder clap deals damage it's clear that thunder clap is always more worth to use! You can check it yourself by looking at Tiny Threat addon or something like that. Ofc if number of targets > 4 better to use demo + sunder tab. I don't understand why all the threat guides don't have these simple calculations anywhere. Anyway, thanks for the guide! Yours was the closest to my thoughts
Please correct me if im wrong about the rotation im mentioning below - So single target rotation is supposed to be: Revenge > Mortal Strike > Sunder Armor AoE rotation: Sweeping Strikes > Cleave > Battle Shout/Demoralizing Shout What about Whirlwind? (dont think you mentioned Whirlwind, unless I am mistaken). Anyway, good video
Berserker stance has a -20% to threat on top of lacking the bonus from defstance, so even though it does a lot of damage it makes terrible threat. Only do it if u wanna crank dps
I have been tanking in hardcore using only sunder armor. The threat from just 1 sunder armor is enough to hold aggro on the targeted mob. Until I get sweeping strikes I dont want to be a damage tank. The threat from sunder is too good
at lvl 36+ your gona want to sweeping strikes into bazerke stance into whirlwind, much better then only cleave spam. not sure why not mentioned in guide
See the part on why thunderclap is bad, same reason. You cant use whirlwind in defstance and thats a huge threat loss. Berserker is -10% threat on top of that
You are running details. Why the fuck do you all insist on using a separate threat addon when it's built into details. Under plugins. Come on man. BTW, I've loved your videos. Learning alot. Except addon recommendations of course ;-)
For some archaic reason details threat meter updates even slower than threatclassic, and threat is definitely not a number you can be 3 seconds behind on lol
@@sanmedina Just did a side by side test and you know what? They are exactly the same. No lag in details. If you are getting that its a YOU issue and not an addon issue. Again, stop adding more addons which does choke your system down. Turn on both, observe them side by side. Stop listening to other sweaty idiots who spew bullshit and test yourself. Have a great day :)
Were you in such a hurry to leave a comment showing how much more you know than anyone else that you couldn't wait 15 seconds to the part where I explained exactly that?
Check out our stream on www.twitch.tv/sanmedina
When you get WW axe every other member of a dungeon group is just there for moral support anyway
Facts. Currently 2h tanking SM with WW and living the dream!
@ I’m level 38 in STV with WW axe absolutely destroying some alliance
As a healer main I can 100% confirm it's scary healing for a tank that plays like this the first few times. Their hp drops faster than you would expect for a tank BUT the control over each pull makes for a very smooth, clean run. Spend the first few packs learning when to heal and with which spell to not overheal and waste mana. Learn the pace needed to keep your tank alive and communicate clearly when you need mana if they're a little reckless and you will love dps tanks
Since anniversay servers launched I've been learning how to tank on hardcore and while things have been smooth so far, this video will prove very useful as I move up into higher level dungeons
Dang that disarm tip is huge. Definitely gonna make use of that
One of the best things that has helped me figure out what works is playing in a 4 man of warriors. The hardest part is just having the knowledge of what does what, and what better way is there other than to zug it out in a group full of "tanks" lol. It taught me openers and how to pull threat from the other warriors so i can build rage and pump to the top.
I'm still relatively new to WoW. First experience is a Hunter in SOD just blasting. I decided i wanted to warrior tank with the release of Classic Fresh and this gave me so much good info. I've tanked a few dungeons prior to watching this but now I feel even better about doing it, thank you ❤
That’s one of the best videos you’ve done! Amazing explanations!
YES! thank you for deliver the guide we asked :)
Goated video, I absolutely suck at tanking but always find myself in that role. This video changes everything.
4 minutes in and already learned something! Thank you!
Mages do not believe in threat meters, there is no convincing them. Best of the year
As someone who tanks and heals, I appreciate this.
that passion was coming out with talking about healers 😂
Great video ty, all dps should watch this too
Thanks!
Thanks homie
Learned more in 2 minutes of this video than 2hours of wowhead
Really good guide. Thank you so much!
Well I just learned how to have an easier time with my threat while levelling as a warlock. If I stand further away, it'll be longer before I pull off the Voidwalker
Great video big fan! keep it up !!🎉🎉
Huge guide, ty!!
The information here for a new player like me is like a gold mine
excellent video, very informative. 👍👍👍👍
Could you do a video of you tanking a dungeon, no cuts, and explaining what you're doing as you go?
You know what maybe I should try that
People underestimate warrior debufs. You use improved Demoralizing Shout and Thunder clap and u can tank any mobs. Get in Druid with Hurricane 25% attack speed reduction aoe and u can even tank any raid boss
Doesnt like cats, doesnt like warlocks, doesnt like healers. Doesnt like shirts that fit. What a madman. Looks like a 5 year old sleeping in his dads work shirt.
Solid video; ty!
A healer already gave me props for tanking with the WC staff!!! Bring a big stick and u will be just fine!!!
Hey man, I know that Fresh is the hot thing right now (I'm playing too!) but do you think there's any chance you could do a guide on the changes between SoD AQ40 and the original AQ40? I watched your PTR stream like 4 times over from the clear but a lot (especially with Viscidus) is still quite unclear. I've really been enjoying your content lately having only been watching for a few weeks, but it seems like there's a shortage of AQ40 SoD videos right now - neither me or my guildies can find an actual guide that explains the changes that were found on the PTR. Thank you in advance either way for producing so many great vids :)
In SoD , one explosive trap almost always rips aggro. Wish we had misdirection.
very nice!!! 🎉
I dont even play wow but i watch people play it so now i must know how to flame them in chat respectively
I dont understand taking deep wounds/impale when you don't have axe spec/cruelty. Respec and only take them in the early 40s, when your crit chance actually starts exceeding 16-17%.
The thoughts is correct, but it is not followed through. Let me explain it briefly. For example, you are level 30 as shown in the video. You have thunder clap rank 3 and demo shout rank 2 available. Following the wowhead threat basic numbers table: thunder clap rank 3 = 64 (without dmg), demo shout rank 2 = 17. Taking into account the stances modifiers
thunder clap rank 3 (in battle stance 0.8 mod) = 51,2;
demo shout rank 2 (def stance 1.3 mod)= 22,1.
thunder clap cost 20 rage demo shout 10 rage, so divide the threat of thunder clap by 2 to equalize them. The result is :
thunder clap rank 3 (in battle stance 0.8 coef) generate per 10 rage = 25,6
demo shout rank 2 (def stance 1.3 coef) generate per 10 rage = 22,1
The conclusion is as follows. Since we are talking about Low Level Dungeons Tanking it all depends on the ranked abilities available at the current level! From this point of view it may seem that demo shout is worth to use only every 4 levels from 24 to 38, from 34 to 48 and so on when rank of demo and clap is equal. But if you take into account that thunder clap deals damage it's clear that thunder clap is always more worth to use! You can check it yourself by looking at Tiny Threat addon or something like that. Ofc if number of targets > 4 better to use demo + sunder tab. I don't understand why all the threat guides don't have these simple calculations anywhere.
Anyway, thanks for the guide! Yours was the closest to my thoughts
great video
Ayy he made the low level warrior tank video. +1
Please correct me if im wrong about the rotation im mentioning below -
So single target rotation is supposed to be: Revenge > Mortal Strike > Sunder Armor
AoE rotation: Sweeping Strikes > Cleave > Battle Shout/Demoralizing Shout
What about Whirlwind? (dont think you mentioned Whirlwind, unless I am mistaken).
Anyway, good video
Also sanmedina, what about the Whirlwind spell?
Berserker stance has a -20% to threat on top of lacking the bonus from defstance, so even though it does a lot of damage it makes terrible threat.
Only do it if u wanna crank dps
@ Ok ty for answering
I have been tanking in hardcore using only sunder armor. The threat from just 1 sunder armor is enough to hold aggro on the targeted mob. Until I get sweeping strikes I dont want to be a damage tank. The threat from sunder is too good
Can someone tell me what UI that is? So clean….
Elvui, my premade profile is also in the discord
Hey great video! I got a question, have you covered, or can you cover some low-level pvp tips? I'm lvl 42 and loose almost every matchup :(
FAP is the answer to everything as a Warrior in PvP.
Im sorry bro when it comes to pvp I am more useless than a priest that doesn't wanna heal :p
Is there any time in levelling dungeons that you would throw a shield and one hander on? Or is that just for oh shit moments?
if im getting smacked by 20 mobs maybe I should but I'm lazy af lol
ton ton ton ton ton ton ton ton, nice video anyways, thank you
But its frustrating to heal a fury war, i cant even use my wand and drink every pulls
You are awesome. What country are you from
serbiania
263 likes on such a good video. what a shame. click the likes guys.
at lvl 36+ your gona want to sweeping strikes into bazerke stance into whirlwind, much better then only cleave spam. not sure why not mentioned in guide
See the part on why thunderclap is bad, same reason.
You cant use whirlwind in defstance and thats a huge threat loss. Berserker is -10% threat on top of that
@@sanmedina but your gona hit 4+ mobs on pull for big burst dmg aoe aggro if your using a 2hander
@@tagor416if you are secure on threat go right ahead there is no harm in some good ol' cranking
Maybe its better but i still prefer playing tab sunder with a sword and board 🤣
You are running details. Why the fuck do you all insist on using a separate threat addon when it's built into details. Under plugins. Come on man. BTW, I've loved your videos. Learning alot. Except addon recommendations of course ;-)
For some archaic reason details threat meter updates even slower than threatclassic, and threat is definitely not a number you can be 3 seconds behind on lol
@@sanmedina Just did a side by side test and you know what? They are exactly the same. No lag in details. If you are getting that its a YOU issue and not an addon issue. Again, stop adding more addons which does choke your system down.
Turn on both, observe them side by side. Stop listening to other sweaty idiots who spew bullshit and test yourself.
Have a great day :)
Warrior = tank
A guide for classic dungeons LOL
2 taunts. Mocking Blow is NOT a taunt, it will just force the target to hit you for the duration. As far as i know, this ability does 0 threat.
Were you in such a hurry to leave a comment showing how much more you know than anyone else that you couldn't wait 15 seconds to the part where I explained exactly that?
Are you cuban lol?
I wish i could raft down to america and pretend im cuban
@sanmedina where are you from l9l you sound like a cuban here in miami
Great video, but I hate the accent.