Classic WoW Warlock Leveling Guide - *UPDATED* - StaysafeTV
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This is my UPDATED Warlock leveling guide for CLASSIC WOW!
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It is possible using Life Drain rank rank 5 (lvl 46) starts to outshine wanding, but I haven't been able to test this on the Classic beta because the level cap is 40. Depending on your wand in this level bracket, you'll be doing around ~5 DPS less than spamming drain life, but because you're face tanking with Imp you're going to have to spam Drain Life which costs 240 mana at this point. Drain Life also has a 20 yard base range, whereas wanding has a 30 yard range. In addition, while channeling Drain Life you're open to kicks/silences and getting shadow locked. On top of that, wanding affords you a bit more mobility via wand hopping, whereas while channeling Drain Life you have to remain stationary. Tl;dr, I'm eager to do grinding tests 46+ to determine which is better.
When you start to get shadow wrath and shadoweave items, drainlife become superior. Much faster killing/dps than wanding. Even at the early levels when the killing is not faster than wanding without proper gear, when pulling too many mob, draintanking can keep you from dying. In the beta I can dot-pull and kill 4x lv40 mob without using any pet, fear one, draintank the other 3, first my HP slowly drops, after one death I can keep it not dropping and when only 1 left then I actually gain HP. Of course with a void and aoe taunt its even better. Usually I lifetap down to 50% and after killing a mob I'm at full HP so I can lifetap again, and repeat... the only downside is if an opposing faction player waits for the low hp to attack... however drainlife - in a way - also good in PvP when its not the mana, its the HP what matters and even tough I have less stamina because of the dps gear, I can usually just drain them :)
I don't even try (or need) to use fear against undeads. Of course death coil will change everything!
At the moment in the beta my siphon life ticks for 32, drain life (without improved drainlife) does 62 per second which same as 185 per tick (every 3 sec), corruption ticks for 90... with amplify curse using the 3 instant dot (takes 2 sec to apply) I do almost 2k dmg... in mass pvp (raid or BG) horde drops fast or they survive without decurse/heals with almost no hp and I have 2-3x more dmg done and top killing blow
And annoying horde with maxed out coex is fun :)
In the beta at the moment Dark Pact is not working properly, shadow spellpoer does not affect it so takes ages to steal mana from pet by 150 (should be 350 with my spellpower) but still pretty viable. I keep my void passive without attacking just for the sacrifice in case of a gank, or the imp (passive phaseshifted out) in dungeons as a manabank who regens pretty fast. Pets sometimes behave stupid anyway (until they get fixed)
Conclusion: wanding is good at the beginning, but later the wand damage gets weaker by % and with proper spelldmg gear lifedrain becomes viable and increases survivability. easily tanking 3-4 mob to death, and gaining much more hp back than the mana spent on drainlife and all other dot, going almost nonstop at lvl40+. The only downside is its huge healagro in dungeons plus cant draintank mobs who interrupt/silencekick, but then I just switch to wand for that few second and then continue draining...
I mained a walock from vanilla until legion, and as I mentioned before, probably I was the only one who did sapphiron with 0 frostres gear (full dps) away from healers draining him and gaining health for lifetap even with the increased cold damage ticks and without needing any heal and topping dmgmeter :)
Affli is so much fun, with aq/nax gear its 3 second (dotting) per mob farming, just running around and killing nonstop... and looting while mobs slowly die... the siphon life heal - after a point - gets more than the incoming mob damage.
I'm Gepy gnome in beta (PvP)
how to level engineering without mining ? buy all mats? kz that would be insanely expensive
@@GemayelDaniel Alt with mining.
@@zeradicated what level you need the alt to be to access the needed mines? Is level 35 enough ? So you get the 300 skills or the mines needed to craft the engineering pvp items are in high level zones? 50+
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00:44 - Demons and Rotation
01:36 - Talents
04:14 - Class Quests
07:57 - Rotation and Mechanics
09:01 - Leveling Itemization
10:21 - Professions
11:15 - Get a hold of me
It's interesting to see how the leveling process changed compared to your previous leveling guide. Good work. Keep it up!
Great video. Very clear and concise. I appreciate your boldness to call out some of the flaws in what is considered the "norm" like getting a wand early on and not getting imp drain soul. Good stuff man keep it up
Hello. You hit the leveling spec on the head! This is the best “real” leveling guide. I thought i was off track with my talent points on my way to 60. Currently level 52 atm and my aff tree is somewhat similar and i am a little into demo. Working on getting the summons to .05. I thought i had to respecc but after watching this vid, im on track! Too bad they changed the pff hand orb to plus fire damage. Its not shadow anymore so i wasted time on that quest. Keep up the good work!
I wish every class had someone go this in-depth on leveling theorycrafting. Thank you @staysafetv keep it up
Great guide, really concise and no BS. Wish other classes had something this good.
I made the decision to main a warlock for Classic after a lot of thought. This guide helped prove to myself why I should
@allensbills me too!
Hey love your content Staysafe, can you make a video on the first things to do as a Warlock when you hit level 60? like when do you go for professions and epic mount chain quest and which pre-raid BiS gear and enchants should you go for first, would be great! thanks
Need someone as dedicated as you who has also spent time with the beta to make a mage class guide. This was concise and sufficiently informative!
Hrmmm, interesting to see your guide, and the sound reasoning behind it. I guess it comes down to playstyles for me though. I definitely want to try more wanding with a bit more spirit like you suggest, but for levelling, I've always preferred demonology; I know it's slower but it's so much safer in PvP, especially those 1v2 scenarios having Soul Link + Master Demo. Side note: I tend to use my succubus a lot to CC in dungeons pre-60 as well.
Great video with good and interesting tips. I can't stop to wonder why you suggest skipping so much stuff while leveling though. It seems that you're very comfortable with this class and master it better than most, but I think that when skipping so much and what must be rushing through the levels, new players will miss out on a lot of the leveling experience and getting a deeper grasp of what the warlock is and can. This does seem very efficient in getting to level 60 as fast as possible though.
Keep up the good work 👍
Ive actually gone with pure afflic and have been drain tanking and its quick and feels good. I see a lot of warlocks sleeping on Dark Pact. And in combination with drain tanking, your pet becomes a mana battery and you just can face tank like 3 mobs at once its insane. Definitely a lot of fun. But the Orb quest is soloable at lvl 35 if you know what your doing.
GREAT update man! Ty! Really apprecaite your guide and help. Your effort, energy and obvious love for the game are evident and apprecaited! ty /bow
Awesome update! Thx for your great contez, man!
Hot Warlock dude here just popping in to say I'm so happy you made an updated guide. Kinda shocked that the VW isn't seen as the primary pet to level with anymore, though.
This was very well done and helpful!
I'm inspired by your dedication. I will recommend you strongly to a friend of mine who wants to main warlock. Thx for your content.
Damn spent much time playing warlock but never realised how efficient Fear is to preserve the hp pool ! Thanks for the tip
You make me wish I was playing warlock my dude. Keep up the good work fren
Thanks for all the high quality warlock content.
A great over view! Love seeing a warlock main streamer!
Immensely helpful. thank you!!
Thanks for the video StaySafe! Great info for new Warlocks. I created and uploaded a model on Reddit Wow Classic forum in an attempt to remember some of the great tips and tricks!
Just found your channel. Super helpful. Liked & Subbed!
Love the guide, Just started playing warlock on classic.
exactly what I needed thank you
Great vid man, I feel well prepared to lvl my first toon come classic release. Love the dedication, research and man hours put into this guide my dude. 👍🤘
Thank you for your work!
Big thx for your effort!
The go ahead and level towards quest wand is actually a time saver.
I tried to get the orb of Dar Orahil at lvl 38, noticed a gnome doing the quest by himself at 38, (im undead) i helped him kill it and then we waited and he helped me kill it. Warlock love is strong
Lotr Witch END THE GNOMES
GNOME POWER
Acktuahlly.jpg it would not imply that stamina has 3x the stat-weight of spirit but up to 3x the stat-weight since opportunity cost of spending 5 points are a thing.
I need one of these guides for a Hunter in Classic
Wow staysafe u really nailed that gnome voice impression!
Great video! Very informative. I'm interested in hearing more about professions, and what you chose to level with? Or did you do tailoring and engineering from the getgo? I'm concerned about goldflow haha. TIA!
I got a chance to really test it out in the last stress test and I couldn't believe how ineffective the VW was right at level 10, completely different than private server or even vanilla WoW back in the day. Would never have believed it until I experienced it myself.
really well articulated great guide probably rolling lock orc
Aaahh this is what I needed.
Great Work! TY
Appreciate the perspective
Enjoyed the video. Any chance you could make a video explaining the changes you made between the two videos?
Thank you!
Thanks for the video, do you have a list of spells i should learn/train or skip while leveling? would be much appreciated
Hey Staysafe, did you try levelling with a succubus? Taking a look at talents, it seems like it might be viable due to very high dps if you spec into improved lash of pain and improved succubus? Seems like that would lead to higher dps than imp and also a bit more tanky? Plus the seduce comes in handy in PVP areas. What do you think? Pros and cons?
Also I would be really keen to hear your thoughts on a 40-60 guide for levelling.
Just want to say that the Orb of Orahil, i think you can do that at lvl36, i was able to solo him at lvl35 barely, but i did not make the time required for the quest, 2:40 something when she summons him. Also, i chose the staff rather than the wand, more spell dmg.
Wow what impressive guide . Bravo brother .
Since DM wont be out in phase1 for epic mount, whats your plan for epic mount? Are you just going to buy it?
Using red frame around your thumbnail makes it look like ive already watched the video, almost skipped it!
Yea I fuckin hate thumbnails like this. Hate it more than clickbait
why tho?
abdul Kek oh no! Its a good video
Is going 3/3 Improved Voidwalker a good alternative over Impr. Imp? I'm excited to try this build out but am more comfortable running VW when those quick Rogue ganks come out of nowhere. What are your thoughts Staysafe?
I've had great time leveling. I did all the class quests @lvl, made my own wands and crafted my own Shadoweave set. Its been a great journey and extremely fun. Spending a night just to get a new set of gear for lvling to 60 and not feeling like i wasted the time is amazing. In BFA when doing M+ i feel like i wasted time even when i get gear, this is such a strange situation.
Did you try earlier Siphon Life and always keeping dots on 2 or 3 mobs at once? Instead of any demonology points.
can you make a video detailing your 1-60 route?
use the addon guidelime if you haven't started to already.
Can I please ask a question related to launch day 27th august.
Day 1 will you be following Vanillaguide regardless of bottleneck and over population of people following the same quests? or will you skip things?
Awesome video bro
im 35 and full affliction and there was a guy killing the same mobs as me and he was also 35 and following this guide and i was killing things just as fast as him with 4 dots + drain life and a voidwalker and i was always at almost full hp and mana while this other guy was always an inch from death
I plan to respec at 40 and go full affliction to dark pact and run that to 33/7/11 to be able to always be killing multiple mobs with zero downtime.
Thank you.
Great guide, awesome depth and concise!
telling people to use Imp for leveling is not great lmao
Does imp have better mana than on pservers? I seem to recall from Vanilla that my Imp would run out of mana constantly when levelling... just like pservers.
sure hope an imps request will be added in phase 1! only thought that raids and pvp stuff were added down the phases, not quests.
"If you want you can go back at 40 and do the quests once you have your mount" took me from disagreeing with you to 100% doing what your guide tells me to hehe. Nice guide and makes some sense even for us adventurer types :)
Finally someone agrees improved drain soul is a waste of time. You just don't need it if you're a good warlock
100% waste of time, plus it wastes a ton of bag space unless you got a shard delete macro.
The skill itself isnt waste of time (soulstone, healthstone) specially on pvp server. using it for mana regen is waste of time :)
@@bluestar4ever1 yeah the skill itself is fine
@@PherociousPanda you dont need to pump shadow bolts if you have decent wand, and the dots plus wand combo essentially means you can continuously grind without down time even without that talent
@@PherociousPanda you can still handle 2 or 3 fine, fear one tank one pet tank one and just rotate dots and wanding between them
Thanks for the info, The more I have looked it up it would be smart to switch over to SoulLink spec around 45 due to ganking. No one can kill a SL lock at this point. You will save more time from people just avoiding you and not running back from the graveyard constantly . I say 45 because not having instant corruption would slow down your leveling a lot even if its just for a level or two. Unholy power should make up for the damage lost from improved curse along with amplify curse.. Immediately after get some points in suppression then just follow the normal 20/31/0 pvp build.
Nice guide! I have a question about the choice of Demonic Embrace. What would you say the net gain, expressed in stamina for simplification, would be? Are those 5 talent points worth a net gain of 10% stamina? 5%? Somewhere in the middle? If i saw a talent that increased my stamina by 1.5% per talent point, it seems kinda miserable tbh...is there really nothing else that you'd consider better?
Is there an add on that's like a swing timer for your wand?
soloed that guy i think at 35...i remember it being very freaking hard and took skill as well as luck ...took me multiple tries and barely survived and my heart was beating out of my chest but was really fun then went on and not long later got stumped by a non elite solo quest in desolace lol
Staysafe, how do mounts and pets work on the beta? I remember in BC as a Warlock each time my pet despawned from being too far away (which happened all the time while mounted) I had to spend the whole time and mana resummoning it. Is it the same in the beta? Because that stuff got on my nerves so bad it would keep me from playing Warlock. Every world PvP fight where you are mounted you would basically die because no pet >_>
1 by 1 i ca see imp working better but with void (and imp drain soul to cover mana down time) you can have void on one full dotted, you wanding one full dotted and another feared full dotted, through tap and DS theres still no downtime and imo its likely faster. Constantly bouncing mobs (depending on the area)
Any chance for info on wands and routing?
Creating your own wand is really inefficient, that is true. But now a few weeks into classic, the prices of Greater Magic Wands really dropping.
So take a peek into the auction house if you are in the City for Training anyways.
awesome, just awesome
Can you play the affi lock in raids ? or do i need to spec into destro because of the limited debuff slots ? That would be really a bummer :(
1 question I'm very curious: Is the Curse of Exh can apply to General Drakkisath in UBRS?
Good video brother :)
NICE Guide
Can you do a pvp one but mention about best pvp gear ?
Noticed a lot of people haven’t covered this topic.
Thanks mate
Big love from Australia brahs
Phase 1 isn't really about PVP, so you're better to work on BIS gear. Usually, you'd go Soul Link for PVP, though because Phase 2 is mostly group WPVP you may be better going SM/RUIN so at least you can do some PVE (raids), etc.
You make warlocks interesting
I appreciate the video! I have a question tho. In the warlock deep dive with alive video by tips out, alive recommends essentially rushing Soul Link. What are your thoughts on this?
yeah id love to see his opinion on this
Would love a warlock specific keybinds guide.
It's all preference dude
Thanks for doing this, a lot of valuable info, surprising to learn that immolate is worth using in normal rotation and that imp is the pet of choice for lvling :D
If we complete succabus and/or Felhunter quest while lvling, which would be better to use? still imp? Also, any chance of you wrtting up a quest guide? haven't been playing vanilla since well vanilla :P so quite unsure what quests are worth doing and which ones aren't, and for those of us that don't want to be stuck with the horde of players competing for every single mobs, a quest guide would be invaluable!
Felhunter is useless for solo play and only really good for Bgs. Succubus *probably* will just run OOM too fast.
Immolate depends on what rank you have. If it's a new rank you just picked up it's usually worth it but there are some level stretches where it's not worth the cast time/mana and you're better off just wanding.
1 tip. this goes for both pet classes. use a send pet macro. instead of facing pulling
@O K using the word Noob than admitting to being a clicker. something not right with that image
Completely new to wow, I chose tailoring and enchanting. Should I stay with enchanting or switch to first aid or engineering. I haven't leveled enchanting much yet. I was told the two work well later together
Still checking this video in 2021
great vid
At lvl 30 your drain life is better than the wand. (Gravestone scepter)
What I do is I go succubus + CoA + Siphon Life + Corruption and Drain Life.
It's really fast, especially with spell power and I lose next to no resources.
Where can I find your leveling route?
Have you considered just getting the 3/3 imp talents in Demonology and stopping there in that tree? You could instead work up towards the machine gun imp talent in Destruction. I haven't tried this myself, but I wonder if the Demo talents are more filler than the Destro counterparts.
is it normal that my imp doesn't attack by itself, it can't even autoattack at all , is there a way to fix it or that's just the way yall play?
I think the Enchanted Gold Bloodrobe is quite good, when I played back in vanilla it lasted quite a while for me. If you can get the Robe of Arcana it's a good idea to do the quest. Getting the robe is probably the hardest thing in the entire questline. The crafting recipe drops only from two mobs, one of them is an elite and the other is in darkshore in an out of the way location (I think there isn't even a quest leading you anywhere close), as a result the crafting recipe was back in vanilla rarely seen in the AH, the finished robe was even rarer.
Though I admit that getting some of the questitems takes some traveltime since you have to go to desolace and arathi highlands, so it's something I personally would recommend if you aren't in a hurry. Also while it's probably easier to get the tome for the infernal, the quest is a lot more fun and it feels better, mostly from a RP viewpoint, to do the quest. I especially enjoyed what the questgiver does after you have finished the quest. I'm wouldn't be surprised if many warlocks actually missed that, since you don't have to wait for it to finish the quest and it happens a little bit after you turned the quest in more than enough time to summon your mount and be on your way.
Shadoweave robe
The problem is that he's talking in terms of Classic release while you're talking about x time down the line. Unless you grind for that robe and craft it yourself, wasting tons of time in the process, there's no way to get the quest done on release as there will be no one to buy it from. So his advice stands, you skip the quest.
Like, I have tried this popular method to play but honestly, just stacking + fire spell damage items along with desturction talent tree and putting Immolate + spamming searing pain + the -1sec cd on imp firebolt is just so much more efficient, I estimate like 75% faster kills with doing it like this which is huge, you lose mana a bit faster but you also kill most enemies before they reach you so you can lifetap to regain the lost mana pretty well. I noticed this build just by accident when I respecced to spam hellfire ability together with a friend and I respecced from your advised build to this fire-based build, and I must say that I think the fire-based build is pretty great, as well as spamming searing pain dealing like 2.4x more damage with 1.5 cast time vs 1.5 sec cast time wand around the same level, as well as the 100% crit damage talent along with the 10% increased crit chance of searing pain. Quite awsome, try it out once. I recommend. Oh ya, and you also have firestone ability.
@Radamenti Aye, you kill your enemies of same level in about 5-6 seconds but you do lose mana relatively fast as well as you have less health as the fire spellpower gear only give pure fire spellpower and no additional stamina or so. But it is fun to play.
One question. Is human the better choice for warlock because of the 5 spirit than Gnom?
First of all I like this guide a lot, but I have a quick question if I remember from Vanilla, the professions of choice for locks were tailoring and enchanting for lvling, because you DE'd your own greens/blues from tailoring for enchanting mats, and easily paid for everything you needed, and most of what you wanted, by AHing Chanting mats and some blues from tailoring, with minimal time invest and tailored items and chants could help you siginificantly. Also a if I remember Engineering was not recommended unless you were a heavy PVP'r. I might be remembering wrong of course but just wanted to know your thought process on locks having engineering while lvling.
Engineering is good for pve/pvp due to all the gadgets and explosives you get.
Enchanting is mainly dependent on you getting rare recipes to be super useful.
One requires alot more work to be useful or profitable, is what most would say.
Nothing wrong with tailoring/chanting.
Hello, it is possible to play with Improved Voidwalker instead of Improved Imp ? It is huge loss or not ? I preffer Voidwalker insted imp for leveling and for sacrifice shield :-) Thank you for answer
do you resummon imp to get new imp mana or?
I used to play during vanilla, i leveled 2 warlocks, an UD and a human. I did a lot of PvP with both ( rank 10 & rank 11) . I will never level up with the imp on a PvP server because your ennemy will attack you immediately. The best pet while leveling is VW. Your template is good if you level up with friends well above the curve of other players, but otherwise no.
I leveled on LH and being able to pull 3-5mobs in certain situations with the void was saving me multiple grave runs , i absolutely agree with you that the void is definetly the best but we have to keep in mind streamers never do anything alone.
Can you make a wand progression guide?
Early Enchanting wands/quest greens(for Alliance, quest at Bashal'aran in Darkshore, idk about Horde, I think Silverpine?) -> Blackfathom Depths wand.The Blackfathom Depths wand will carry you from around 22-24 to later 30s until you can get the Goblin Igniter from a quest in STV(which is a pretty small upgrade over the BFD wand at lvl 38-42 range). After that, the next one you should aim for is probably the Noxious Shooter from Maraudon at 46-48.
The imp increases dps, but I don't know whether overall it works well in questing when mobs often easily aggro. The voidwalker gives a slight advantage in survivability by pulling aggro, but then again you are sacrificing dps. I don't know if the imp does enough damage to make up for lack of armour. One of the key strengths of warlock is its ability to solo many quests and even elites, elites can only be killed if the voidwalker survives long enough. I just can't decide.
I know 3yr old comment but vw doesn't hold aggro well after about 30s and Elites, as long as it is suitable, can be feared and dot with ease.
How fast can you level the warlock in classic ? Reason I ask is because I’m level 40 currently and in my late 30s when I click forward played it’s taking me on average 13 to 14 hours of gameplay per level ? That’s straight grinding along with very little scarlet monastery cathedral ! Just seems super slow , when there are rogues that can level 40,000 exp per hour ! My rotation is flawless I think and my gear is all shadow damage stuff so any advice for speeding up the pace if it’s at all possible
very nice