While Flameweave cuffs are a 25% drop. You must also remember that getting the right affix is 1 in 13. For me it took 78 attempts to get the flameweave cuffs of frozen wrath. But you can solo it very easily.
Any chance you could provide an upgraded BiS list which includes and new items that will be dropping in Dire Maul??? Thanks so much for this list you have been very helpful through the leveling process. :)
UPDATE: There are some items on the best in slot list in this video that are no longer the best in slot piece because we just found out from the Classic dev team reddit AMA that MC/Onyxia loot table are going to basically be the 1.12 versions. I will be working to update the lists and eventually I will make another video to replace this one, however the pre-bis lists are still accurate to my knowledge but I have not double checked yet. Sorry for the inconvenience. Here is a video where I go into more detail: th-cam.com/video/iHhaA_c5s6w/w-d-xo.html Link to reddit AMA: www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/ct08c7/welcome_to_the_rclassicwow_subreddit_ama_with_the/exi6u9z/?context=8&depth=9&st=jzk3wbws&sh=03b5f05e
Can someone explain to me what the criteria is for 'Best in Slot'. Since epics from MC are being included in some of these... I'm just having trouble believing that level 50 greens and level 40 blues are better and more worthwhile to equip than blues from level 60 dungeons, or epics from MC. How are the numbers being crunched to get these results?
I'm guessing you are talking about the tier set? If so it is only an upgrade once you have the 3 set, but even then it is really close in terms of dps but the tier gear gives you more mana and health making it better.
@@obbma4ler22 O well in that case then no, 3 spellpower will do more damage than 7 int, 1 spellpower is equal to 8 int for dps. The 3 set is mainly better because the set bonus. Maidens circle has no set bonus
It may be good but we don't know the proc rate and if the proc rate is low then it won't be better than the other weapons and since it is hard to farm I don't think it is really worth it. However if the proc rate turns out to be high then it may be better (But I think it would have to be really high (30%+) to beat out 14 spell dmg and 8 int (witchblade stats), and it definitely won't beat the Azuresong Mageblade)
@@FrostLiveWoW seen some beta-access people talking about it at least few times. If for some reason group mass princess runs would happen then maybe more available than two freezing bands :D
No 1% spell crit is equivalent to 8-10 spellpower when you crunch the numbers. So that cap would be as good as a 24ish spell power helmet, so 36-41 from the of frozen wrath pieces are better
It is though, ►Phase 1 Pre-Raid BiS/BiS Spreadsheet: forum.classicwow.live/topic/847/phase-1-mage-pve-pre-raid-bis-and-bis-list-mage-compendium you must have just missed it
Unless Ragnaros damage is ridiculously high then no, you will be able to get by with the BRS fire resist buff and fire protection potions just in case you need some extra absorb. But as a mage you have fireward already to help with absorbing fire damage and you will get fire resist from using mage armor.
Fire blast is part of my rotation as a frost mage, so therefore some of these items you list Does not Seem to me to be bis since they will not affect fire blast
Seems like you forgot about celestial orb for an off hand choice +3int 13 spell power and a 400-1200 mana refill (30 min cd) comes from the mage class quest. Good video overall.
I disagree with some of these only because you’re downplaying crit chance and prioritizing spell power on everything. For example the inventors focal sword with 1% spell crit from gizlock is a much better option then hypnotic blade before mageblade. Also the band of ruination is a 1% spell crit ring with 4 mp5 that I’d take over +9 spell dmg and low int. A crit is a crit, 1.5* dmg, that is always the goal, so balancing the two is better until you get all tier which has both.
You could have just mentioned "of Frozen Wrath" at the start of the video and not waste time on every slot saying the same thing. People aren't interested in a long video where every slot is just "buy a green boe of frozen wrath"
Well if you just want an incorrect guide then sure...but there are only 3 "of Frozen Wrath" items on the BiS list and only 6 on the Pre-raid BiS list...So not even half the items
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Great list
I really like the alternate choices for all the pieces
This is fantastic Frostlive, damn good informative video. Thanks!
While Flameweave cuffs are a 25% drop. You must also remember that getting the right affix is 1 in 13. For me it took 78 attempts to get the flameweave cuffs of frozen wrath. But you can solo it very easily.
Any chance you could provide an upgraded BiS list which includes and new items that will be dropping in Dire Maul???
Thanks so much for this list you have been very helpful through the leveling process. :)
I use a staff with +37 frost spell dmg. That works nice as well
Same, just waiting for mageblade/staff from golemagg now
what happened to the baby deer
Spritecaster Cape currently drops from the High Interrogator in BRD in the prison part. don't know if it has been said in previous comments.
UPDATE: There are some items on the best in slot list in this video that are no longer the best in slot piece because we just found out from the Classic dev team reddit AMA that MC/Onyxia loot table are going to basically be the 1.12 versions. I will be working to update the lists and eventually I will make another video to replace this one, however the pre-bis lists are still accurate to my knowledge but I have not double checked yet. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Here is a video where I go into more detail: th-cam.com/video/iHhaA_c5s6w/w-d-xo.html
Link to reddit AMA: www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/ct08c7/welcome_to_the_rclassicwow_subreddit_ama_with_the/exi6u9z/?context=8&depth=9&st=jzk3wbws&sh=03b5f05e
Thank you so much for this video. Mad props friend!
great detailed guide 1 of the most complete and as far as i know accurate around. gj!
Thank you so much!
For head slot, you missed the Crimson Felt Hat. It is better than the dreamweave circlet. It is farmable and has 30sp. Also the hat looks pimp.
Pimp hat is BiS
good video mate
Thank you!
thanks for the videos bro
Dude, this is great!
Thank you! I will be working to update the lists as we find out exactly what items will drop phase 1 because right now it is a bit unclear
Not bad, good to know to BiS in an easy video to follow
Hey frost, what about crimson felt hat? It should be better then dreamweave with its 30sp 8 int/sta/spirit? :)
Sorry mate, what about swords before raid?
Can someone explain to me what the criteria is for 'Best in Slot'. Since epics from MC are being included in some of these... I'm just having trouble believing that level 50 greens and level 40 blues are better and more worthwhile to equip than blues from level 60 dungeons, or epics from MC. How are the numbers being crunched to get these results?
its in the title, PRE-RAID
great video bro
I have Deep Woodlands Cloak which has 12 SP 9 INT and 6 Stamina
Diana’s pearl necklace from gunner in stratholme?
available in phase 5
Only thing you missed was the Celestial Stave,
It's the best placeholder for while you go for any other BIS weapons and decently easy to get at lv 42
at lv44 you can just get the zf one for an upgrade
Why is 7 intel/6 spirit/damage of spells +18 worse than 10 frost resistance/damage of frost spells +21? The former seems much better.
I'm guessing you are talking about the tier set? If so it is only an upgrade once you have the 3 set, but even then it is really close in terms of dps but the tier gear gives you more mana and health making it better.
@@FrostLiveWoW Nope! Rings. Maiden's Circle seems superior to the freezing bands.
@@obbma4ler22 O well in that case then no, 3 spellpower will do more damage than 7 int, 1 spellpower is equal to 8 int for dps. The 3 set is mainly better because the set bonus. Maidens circle has no set bonus
@@FrostLiveWoW Shouldn't you take the mana buff from 7 intel into account for DPS, too? Or is that taken into consideration.
What is spell power in items though? the items that state increase damage and healing done by*?
Yes damage done by spells is spell power in classic
@@FrostLiveWoW Awesome thank you! Do these items scale? For instance is 8 spellpower just as valuable at lvl 40 as at lvl 60?
What about Princess purple weapon? With lots of princess runs it could be achievable.
It may be good but we don't know the proc rate and if the proc rate is low then it won't be better than the other weapons and since it is hard to farm I don't think it is really worth it. However if the proc rate turns out to be high then it may be better (But I think it would have to be really high (30%+) to beat out 14 spell dmg and 8 int (witchblade stats), and it definitely won't beat the Azuresong Mageblade)
@@FrostLiveWoW seen some beta-access people talking about it at least few times. If for some reason group mass princess runs would happen then maybe more available than two freezing bands :D
yea maybe easier, but I would personally rather have a freezing band than that weapon, it doesn't have any stats on it with a mediocre proc.
Question for you for helm slot is Cap of the Scarlet Savant better or worse?
No 1% spell crit is equivalent to 8-10 spellpower when you crunch the numbers. So that cap would be as good as a 24ish spell power helmet, so 36-41 from the of frozen wrath pieces are better
would this be a solid equipments for AOE grinding lashers etc?. Im leveling a mage atm SOLELY for the purpose of gold farming.
No, for that you'll need more stats based gear. This is mostly pure dmg gear which is good for instances like MC.
But. . .the link isn't in the description!
It is though, ►Phase 1 Pre-Raid BiS/BiS Spreadsheet: forum.classicwow.live/topic/847/phase-1-mage-pve-pre-raid-bis-and-bis-list-mage-compendium
you must have just missed it
dont u need more than 10 fire ress total for early mc?
Unless Ragnaros damage is ridiculously high then no, you will be able to get by with the BRS fire resist buff and fire protection potions just in case you need some extra absorb. But as a mage you have fireward already to help with absorbing fire damage and you will get fire resist from using mage armor.
at vanila you needed but classic is end of vanilla so way nerfed
hey man i have a Whitemanes Chapeau on head slot do you think its worth crafting the Dreamweave circlet to change? thx for the guides
Just get Crimson Felt Hat from Strat UD
@@skanterfanter yeh soon im 52 atm :)
Dont forget about the Blue BoE wand that drops from trash in RFK gives +10 Frost spell dmg xD
What is the name of the wand?
Fire blast is part of my rotation as a frost mage, so therefore some of these items you list Does not Seem to me to be bis since they will not affect fire blast
You are stupid
Crimson felt hat from strath is better then dreamweave circlet has 8 int, 8 stam, 8 spi , 30 increase
i need this for warlock!
Seems like you forgot about celestial orb for an off hand choice +3int 13 spell power and a 400-1200 mana refill (30 min cd) comes from the mage class quest. Good video overall.
+20 frost offhand on ah
isnt there an alternative for the belt lmao never drops
You talking about the ogre?
@@Xypher1D yeah
The choker of rag is better
greens lens comes up to 31 not 35
You shouldn't wait to equip the arcanist crown.... having some frost damage bonus is shit compared to hit chance and SP AND INT!
So many voicecracks. Really good video tho
Who came here from Justin Lewis's playlist?
@crazy cat yeah
i did. no one replied to u for 6 months 😢
@@mvrdvrerr yeah
I disagree with some of these only because you’re downplaying crit chance and prioritizing spell power on everything. For example the inventors focal sword with 1% spell crit from gizlock is a much better option then hypnotic blade before mageblade. Also the band of ruination is a 1% spell crit ring with 4 mp5 that I’d take over +9 spell dmg and low int. A crit is a crit, 1.5* dmg, that is always the goal, so balancing the two is better until you get all tier which has both.
He talks like the South Park episode lmao
Classic wow is trash without WSG.
Grow a pair and fuck off
You could have just mentioned "of Frozen Wrath" at the start of the video and not waste time on every slot saying the same thing. People aren't interested in a long video where every slot is just "buy a green boe of frozen wrath"
Well if you just want an incorrect guide then sure...but there are only 3 "of Frozen Wrath" items on the BiS list and only 6 on the Pre-raid BiS list...So not even half the items
I’m interested. To generalize by saying what all ppl are interested in is a ridiculous way to try to add legitimacy to your own position
such a good video. thanks!