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I was worried this would be a bare bones ancestry, but they really fleshed it out!
Bruh
Zing!
angry upvote...
Please get out
YOHOHOHO!
- Skeleton Summoner with a skeleton undead Eidolon
- Enemy crits
- Use the Collapse feat
- Enemy be like: "hehe, gottem, raise up and I'll get an attack of opportunity"
- Enemy gets stab from behind by the Eidolon
- DM be like: "seriously?"
- Another victim of the mighty *skelebros*
"Nonat then rambles because he misread the feat"
Ah, a classic.
It’s a feature!
A nonat1 class feature!
I'm sorry... But...:
Skeleton with Bone Swarm ancestry feat: "Welcome... TO THE BONE ZONE!"
quick note on additional lore as a feat, it autoscales in proficiency (you get a free increase in the chosen lore at 3, 7 and 15) so it's not "just" giving you a trained lore. To my understanding feats like these work retroactively so you jump in at expert in your "past life" lore of your chosing and become master and legendary passively. So you get to have one additional skill trained plus a scaling lore skill, which seems like a pretty good deal to me. I'd still probably take the more skeleton-esque feats (especially on an ancestry with an intelligence deficit, not that great for lore) but it's not that bad.
Oh I thought he was talking about the trained skill then , not add. Lore
I think he missed the fact that you get trained in a skill on top of the Additional Lore.
@@LastFootnote Yeah, he does that a lot.
came here to say this lol
If you're playing in a long-term campaign or Adventure Path where you regularly encounter a certain type of enemy -- cultists for an evil god, an extended clan of humanoids, etc. -- Additonal Lore is one of the best feats you can take, especially if your character has decent Intelligence, because it is the **only** feat in the game that automatically improves in proficiency as you level up. Ever since I discovered that fact, most of my characters have picked it up eventually. Seriously, don't sleep on that feat!
Skeletons are dexterous, because without all that meat weighing them down, they're extremely light weight and can probably fit into cramped spaces much easier.
I mean, I think I can yeet a pile of bones faster and farther than a hunk of meat.
So, a Skeleton Gunslinger with skeletal resistance and the Sentinel archetype can be resistant to both piercing and bludgeoning damage, which means they can shoot a scatter weapon at point-blank range and not take any scatter damage. Kind of fun.
I admit that I am possibly the most biased person in the universe on this, but this is my new favourite Ancestry. Starting to theorycraft a Skeleton Oracle of Bones as we speak.
Hunt Prey = Lock-on target system
Infused reagents = Estus flasks
Rejuvenation Token = Stick it in your last campfire
Skeleton Ranger + Alchemist Dedication = Dark Souls TTRPG!!!
It’s here boi!!!
But can the Skeletons do their exceedingly derpy psycho crusher impression? They're not proper Dark Souls Skeletons without their derpy psycho crusher impression.
Everyone mentioned the Additional Lore thing, but nobody's mentioned that Rejuvenation Token doesn't make a Skelton immortal, just allows them to be ressurected as normal.
Ifrit Skeleton Redeemer with a +1 striking flaming spiked chain. LOOK INTO MY EYES
Looked over the ancestry with my dm weeks ago and immediately fell in love with it. Planning to do a campaign sometime with a dungeon, a dragon, and a group of skeletons from inside the dungeon as an adventuring party to attract attention to the dungeon!
I feel like skeletons have always been mostly dexterity based creature
They don't use brute force but speed and bleed
They are just bones, so they are agile, light and free to move as they want
Also they usually are depicted with weapons like scimitars and bow, which are mostly dexterity weapons
Scimitars aren't finesse weapons in real life or Pf2e though.
@@xdragoonzero0 i mean, I was mostly thinking about dark souls ahahah
And they are finesse in 5e if I'm not wrong, I have gotten confused
You play one campaign of 5e after a life of pathfinder, and your memories are ruined forever...
It is a classic for skeletons in D20 games to gain dexterity
Bows being dexterity weapons is a gaming trope. Shoot one. In any fantasy that isn't running off of RPG stats, it should be a Strength weapon.
Remember the Odyssey? The suitors weren't capable of stringing or even drawing Odysseus' bow because it was so mighty.
@@carloscaro9121 Bows are weird, you need a LOT of strength to bend one and shoot, yet you need aim (dexterity) to hit
Yet you can't make them scale with both stats, and there are many efficient bows that you don't need a massive strenght to weild
So it makes sense to me how they chose to handel them
Would be cool to have some big strength bows tho
Anyone ever read baalbuddy web comics I can perfectly see the necromancer skeletons from that existing in this.
Dude got a character known as necromancer Chan and she is tired of her undead servants either bickering at each other who is boss skeleton, don’t follow her commands or act like pervs by placing their skulls somewhere and spy on her. The only Skelton from my knowledge that listens to her is the one she saved when she was a kid and a apprentice at the time.
Skeleton: Has Boost to Dex and Cha
Me: Its Skelly time. Imma make Brooke a Skeleton Bard
I’m actually running a skeleton named brook now because of one piece lol
@@greenlotus3718 THE PROPHECY HAS BEEN FULFILLED!!
@@Master_E444 I’m running him as a summoner/ reanimator!! And my gm home-brewed the create undead ritual to -1 not -4 to actually have undead potential lol
@@greenlotus3718 oh that's really cool!
Skeletons get dex because unlike zombies they actually have the coordination to use a weapon like a bow. At most I’d give a zombie a hammer.
This is already my 2nd favourite race behind Automaton.
I really wanna play a Skulduggery Pleasant detective so much!
Ok guys, you disattach your arm, you get the sterling dynamo archetype for a silver arm, you forever have a +5foot reach to any one handed weapon.
Is it me or paizo is making everything stronger every year? This literally the most powerful martial ancenstry in the game i seen...
I'm loving this book so far. Just great ideas all around.
I was completely sold when I read skeletons can fall apart to downgrade a crit, or hold their arm in their other hand to gain reach.
Also interesting how people got up in arms about Orcs being stereotyped as stupid, most likely leading to their Str/Free boosts, and we have now 2 ancestries that have an Intelligence penalty. And I don't think the biology of the brain means anything.
Kind of ironic with a picture of a Skeleton Wizard in the book. I just don't get any of the criticisms people have I guess.
Speaking of Dexterity bonus - in One Piece there is a skeleton character who is so lightweight and nimble, that he has an ability to run across the water surface.
I came here to mention Brook. A skeleton bard at that.
@@Lechteron he also fences tho
@@StanNotSoSaint Bards are trained in rapiers and have some stuff to boost that. He's certainly not as dedicated a swordsman as Zoro.
@@Lechteron no doubt
I find it hilarious that we can now play Sans or Papyrus from Undertale in Pathfinder 2e.
It may not be optimal, but being a wholesome skeleton druid with a canine companion that's constantly tempted to knaw on your bones seems very fun.
Skeleton party member with chicken bones holding them together is both funny and flavorful. (Chicken flavor to be exact)
I love how you wonder about Dexterity as the ability boost but take Charisma for granted =D
I guess in 2e low charisma signifies being boring and forgettable while high charisma depicts someone who draws a lot of attention. That explains goblins having one too.
@@StanNotSoSaint
I don't know, goblins can look pretty good, usually cute. Skeletons can be quite dashing as well, especially when you consider how clean they can be.
Skeletons are becoming a fav ancestry of mine really quick. Just like with Leshies, you can be very creative with how they look all before clothing is involved.
Collapse + kip-Up sure seems like a phenomenal combo for a frontliner.
Time for bard who plays the marimba/rib cage.
Black Skeleton Knight is basically the immortal feat idea.
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haha, skeleton goes BONE STORMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would take Skeletal Transformation just because it would let me turn into one of the anatomically inaccurate skeleton spiders you can get at Walmart. Now *that’s* peak comedy.
I'm making a campaign that the skeleton ancestry is perfect for! This is right on time, it's perfect! It'll be the most common ancestry in this game.
Skeleton Ifrit Fighter (or Gunslinger), Cavalier Archetype with a skeletal steed. Flames burning in eye sockets. Name: Herod Grist. It's an anagram. :D
I look forward to making a Skeleton character with a lot of skeleton puns. "I'VE GOT A BONE TO PICK WITH YOU!"
Missed opportunity for Bone Missile to not be Bottomless Ribs.
Great video. You should do a video on the dungeon ancestry.
You missed the largest caveat with rejuvenation token.
You are restored to the state you were in when you made the token. So if you did this when you hit level 9 and never recast it when you come back, you're level 9 even if you and your party were level 20 when you died.
Depending on how strict you followed that you would also have no knowledge of the intervening time. You come back as though you had been in stasis the entire time.
This skeleton give me ideas: A person who was a normal person, but get his village destroyed by undead and them he was killed by that invasion.
To increase tragedy he was turn into a skeleton by the same necromancer who destroyed his village. As time pass on he was forced to killed but little by little he recover pieces of his memories until he was freed from the control.
He sworn vengeance against that damn necromancer. He was never good in magic, so he specialized in a way to destroy the undead kind, and to make easier to do such thing, he became a Thaumaturgy to be able to hit where it hurt more.
He might be aware that if the necromancer die, he might die too. But he doesn't care. His mission is more importantly. A skeleton thaumaturgy.
Now this makes me more interested in play a skeleton thaumaturgy.
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Am I crazy or did Nonat miss that Past Life also gets you trained in a new skill in addition to a lore?
He also missed that since you get the "additional lore" feat itself. It automatically scales up in proficiency.
I kinda wanna make a Skeleton Bard now, Yohohoho!
this just feels like the undead races in Divinity but in a good way; I can finally play an undead lizard again :)
Play dead seems like something you should just be able to do because you’re a skeleton in a graveyard of skeletons
I'd love to be a Dry Bones.
The feats reminds me a lot of divinity original sin 2 undead (eternal) race
And with this Skeleton Rogue becomes my staple player class/ancestry combo.
I dig these bones!
My copy came in last night and I've been loving it so far. Skeletons have always been my favorite kind of undead and wizards are my favorite class so I am a tad annoyed their penalty is to intelligence. After all, they are not mindless anymore. I feel like skeletons should be like humans or orcs in that they get two plus twos and no penalty. My homebrew change is +2 Dex and Free +2. I also wish they had a feat to give them the advanced undead benefits because it feels weird to me for skeletons to only have low light and not darkvision. Very curious as to what you think Nonat. That all said, fantastic video as always. Love your content!
They actually get 3 increases--dex, cha, and 1 free so you could use the free boost to negate the penalty if you want
@@sheldonlarmond6217 I know they get the three, I was just saying I wish they got two with no penalty like humans and orcs. Yes you can neutralize the penalty with the freebie but that still stops you at 16 instead of 18. I know minmaxing isn't everything but as someone who has been playing spellcasters exclusively in this system it feels like monsters regular succeed on their saves more often than not so every point towards your DC matters.
Bone missile gunslinger skeletons. Negative font cleric. Encounter made.
Does a Skeleton Sorcerer have a bloodline... something to think about 🤔
Considering how bone marrow is tied to blood, I'd say it still works.
Spooky scary skeletons and shivers down your spine
Came here as fast as possible, me bony boyos are finally here!!!!!
Ardoot the bard
VarRum the Barbarian
Katruss the sorcerer
It's your time to shine again!
(PCs taken from d&d with the Reborn race)
6:39 kip up goes brrrrr
Made a skeleton LG cleric of Sarenrae with the Scion of Slayers background. Even in death he carries on with his holy crusade for Sarenrae against all undead while seeking the cult of Necromancers that killed him and his entire family. He's a bit of a zealot with deep seeded self-loathing... but he's in therapy, so He's getting better.
Finally! I love letting players be undead but I love to run them as constructs. Lots of good stuff to add to the game!
I love it!
Time for spooky boys!
"Bone storm tho..." 🤣
Was making a Skeleton Barbarian (With alot of intimidation feats for a spooky halloween theme) and was wondering: Is it worthwhile to take the Skeletal transformation feat if I'd need to spend an action and a feat just to be able to use it? Or should I just take one of the level 9 feats in place of a level 13, such as Skeletal Resistance or the revive?
Terminator SpooPY SKARY SKELLYTANS!
Flaw to Intelligence, hmm... so remaking Frederick De Bonesby the skeletal Wizard in 2e would be difficult
Easily the spookiest ancestry.
Finally, I can make Spinal from Killer Instinct.
Did you live this? If so I missed the announcement cause was busy. As always loving your content.
Ahh, collapse, reminds me of Ever Crack skeletons.. Except only when they die. Also, they uncollapse when you run into them..
i can't believe they missed opportunity to make skeleton feat, just add you different skeletal limbs, or making yourself a bone armour by attaching more bone to your chest
Read the Feats, thanks
Welcome to the BONE ZONE
Somebody at Paizo was a big Samedi fan...
Past life gives you two skills
As a DM the first thing I houseruled is that Skeletons get Darkvision. Like I don't understand why they get just low-light vision when every skeleton and almost every undead creature in the monster manual has darkvision.
If elves can pick up cavern elf ancestry to get darkvision without any penalties when in bright light then why can't skeletons see in the dark?
Lets go, Medievil!
Yooooo! Swashbuckler, Fighter, or Champion???
@@Nonat1s Champion-cavalier would work. Lay on hands is of the table though.
I want to play in an all skelie campaign.
Synclair? WHEN?
Alright, this ancestry is terrifically based. This is some homebrew looking crap and I am all for it.
Just FYI the anime One Piece features a skeleton pirate named Brook. He is a guitar player and performer aka Bard but also has a special deadly sword skill. th-cam.com/video/yWvSrO4rhYs/w-d-xo.html
All I'm hearing is the Spinal theme from Killer Instinct
I'd love to play in a campaign with an Elder Scrolls start (the party in prison) as a skeleton with play dead.
DM: "As you look around your cell, you see that it's pretty standard. Some bunks, some chains, a skeleton..."
PC Cellmate: "Wait, a skeleton? That's odd for a city prison."
Me: "HI!"
PCC: *screams*
"Odd for a city prison" Eh it was normal for the Prison in the Imperial City. Really it would be weird for a village Prison due to the lower population
@@cyberninjazero5659 True, true...
This might be my next character...
Kitsune ancestry deep dive soon?
Skeleton Ifrit= Ghostrider
btw Additional Lore feat progresses your Lore skill automatically to Legendary at 15th... So it's level 5 ancestry feat for a skill feat. Still meh though.
I think Skeleton makes the most sense as its own ancestry since it doesn't matter that much what you were in life if you are reduced to just the bones. With the undead archetypes it makes sense that you keep your basic ancestry stuff since you still like... have the same body/appearance mostly.
TFW you are playing a creature with no flesh, blood, or circulatory system, but you can be poisoned and take bleed damage.
I get why they made skellies this way, but still ... 😭
Good news, everyone! Archives of Nethys has finally updated their site with Book of the Dead content!
Skeleton, the ancestry that could easily become a lich.
Hmm, to allow a player to use the Well Armed feat to grab keys, flip switches, pickpocket a guard, etc...Interesting.
I think I’ve seen an isekai or two in which a character uses As In Life, So In Death.
You might to reread Past Life.
It a) grants training in any skill as well as granting the Additional Lore feat and b) Additional Lore grants automatic scaling to Legendary.
One trained skill and a good flexible skill feat is solid for a 5th level ancestry feat.
No Pumpkin King feat, 0/10
...is pretty good tho
My thing with liches and in this case rejuvenation tokens is that skeletons are objects. Skeletons can phylacteries. In fact in D&D lore there was a guy that used every bone of someone else's body as a phylactery. Why can't one lich use another skeleton as a phylactery and then that other skeleton uses the first guy as their phylactery? That way the only way they could die is if they died and their bodies were destroyed at the same time.
I don't think a Lich counts as a Token
@@Haos51 But why would skeletons count then? Why would resurrecting a skeleton after making it a token cease it's tokenship?
Bonenado!
I think it would've been better to make an undead heritage
Gunslinger skeleton
Nehehe, time to play me a skeleton Necromancy wizard, with the boys traveling all across Golarian finding the best ale.
Past life says it trains you in a skill and gives additional lore. So that's 2 skills for the one feat. I mean, not exciting, but alright.
plus you get the skill feat for additional lore. Meaning it scales up by your level.
I’m just waiting until aon releases the bod content
Time to make a skeleton with a gnome flickmace and acquire reach15 at lvl 5
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORM
Additional lore feat those increase at level 3rd, 7th and 15th so Past life would give you expert in the lore if taken at level 5
Additional Lore auto Scales