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- Tengu are some of the most unorthodox ancestries in the game. They have some abilities that go so off base for the rest of the system!
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You forgot the timecode but for everyone else that wants to skip and is peeking at the comments first, it's 1:40 :3
but glad you're doing these again, I adore these and how you present information for the system :3
...oh dear god, I am NEVER going to hear the end of this one 😵😵😵
@@Nonat1s"I'll actually remember to put the timecode this time
@@Nonat1si thought you are joking)))
@@Nonat1s you just took the human ancestry feat 'ADHD' has the drawback of occasionally forgetting things :3 it's all good
@@Nonat1s You just need to collect all of these and them put a big video every couple of months with all of these corrections.
Tbf these type of videos are the whole reason I found your channel in the first place. The rewatch value of these shorter, informational videos is really high because of how much stuff there is to read through in the books. They really help people who have a hard time reading walls of text.
Like me, I have adhd so even if I love reading I have the focus of a squirrel on crack
Fun fact: Casting your Tengu Innate spells through your Tengu Feather Fan allows you to use your Class DC in place of the Spell's DC. This means that if the hypothetical Dogtooth Fighter took the Feather Fan Feat and used it to cast Electric Arc, the DC for the spell would scale based off of the fighter's Dexterity/Strength.
Tengus can be literal muscle wizards, kinda.
You can use a Kinetist to cast spells at Epic Proficiency with your raw Toughness!
Skyborn tengu monk suplexing people off of mountains
One Toed Hop is amazing. No Reaction and let's you Step (Leap) in Difficult Terrain. Also combine with Powerful Leap to just 5' up and 10' across to jump OVER a small or medium creature.
This can be increased further with items and Monk feats.
I love that Nonat's need to procrastinate on the Kineticist deep dive has given us so much good content 😂
13:37 the Leap from one toed hop brings you 5ft horizontally without triggering reactions like attack of opportunity. Basically it is like the step action, but you can use it even when normally you could not use the step action.
The Tengu fan is something I’ve been wanting to do something with, since it’s a case of a martial being able to use electric arc with their full martial proficiency which is fun.
Tengu Fan is epic on the Kinetist since you can cast Lightning bolt with Epic Proficiency and Constitution.
@@PsychCaptain it’s definitely cool, but I feel it’s probably one of the least interesting users of it purely cause they effectively got better options available without needing it and can mix both attacks and saves easily
@@cosmoniums5990 Not if I take a Melee Wood Kineticist. Support, healing Tengu that can throw out Lightning bolts for 5d12 damage 3 times as day with a DC equal to any Wizard, Druid or Sorcerer.
@@PsychCaptainthat’s kind of why they’re one of the least interesting users of it in my opinion, they already possess fairly equivalent competitive options as is.
@@cosmoniums5990 except, you need to spend feats or give up single gate perks to grab those abilities.
If you focus completely on a support with Wood, you benefit from free attack spells without needing to spend resources in other areas. In addition, you don't have to worry about having hands free and you cast them at the same level as any Wizard or Druid.
I'd say on average for myself, i rewatch one of your ancestry videos every other week, and at least every other month i get a hankering and binge all of them. While i first found you for your making XP to level 3 'guide', I stuck around for your class and ancestry guides. I adore how you present the information and how excited you get. Its because of you that i got into Pathfinder in the first place.
The video moving up when you were talking about the flying was absolutely brilliant. Bravo
Just to pile on everyone else's comments about how enjoyable these "classic" ancestry type videos are, they really are nice to watch and I think are iconic to your channel. As great as channel growth and improvement is, it's also really cool to see that you're making the same content when I first found your vids around 1-2k subs until 50k+ now, just with more polish, but never more bells and whistles than necessary. Keep doing what you do!
By RAW search can be a general search or make players choose an area if the thing is hidden enough
I think you skipped over the DC factor of the Tengu Fan. Martial can cast Electic Arc with Master Proficiency and Strength.
I DID MISS THAT, OH MY GOD. THAT'S RAD.
I'm really happy you're starting this series up and I love the introspection and look at the way that these videos effect your channel. A lot of youtube culture is blinded by the first 24 hours and really neglect information that can stay consistently useful over long amounts of time in favor of algorithm chasing content that is quickly pushed out to a ton of people (Nothing wrong with that type of content at all btw, it's how the site works and that's okie). So having videos that do well long term does a lot to help the ttrpg community find resources for things that confuse them without having to dig through the books
Nonat seeing two additional cantrips as a level two class feat: :/
Nonat seeing one predetermined cantrip which always uses charisma as a level one ancestry feat: :O
YO!!!! YES! I'm so excited for the return of Ancestry and Archetype guides! While it's available on AoN to read, it's nice to have someone talk me through it. These are the kinds of videos I'll be sending new players to when they're looking at choosing different character features and coming back to myself for years to come!
I would note, those Eclectic Sword dealies grow in value if the GM has watched your Auto Bonus Prog video.
Im so thankful for this video. My big bad guy is a tegu sourcerer (soon to be lich) and this really helped with selecting skills for him!
I really appreciate these videos. It allows me to get a better understanding of classes and ancestries in an easier to digest format.
The key thing with the Tengu weapon feet. It's Common Advanced Swords. Which is only the Falcata.
Ironically Human can't take the Falcata because it's Common and the feat says Uncommon .
Yes, I've had the GM who is specific about it.
I’m so happy to see you restart this sears, it was my favourite type of content you made.
I appreciate these guides as someone who wants to start a PF2e campaign and need to teach 5 people how to play
Fun fact about Taloned Tengu: it's an agile unarmed attack that isn't inherently nonlethal, so non-monk non-martial artist characters have a built-in unarmed agile option that can kill.
We use 10ft by 10ft seek rules for finding hidden/invisible enemies while in combat.
"You heard a noise, you get the feeling you're not alone in the warehouse."
"I'd like to walk tover to the crates and use 1 actions to seek the 10x10 area with a readied attack action."
"You don't find anything by the crates."
*The enemy now gets their turn, they do sneaky things*
"It's your turn again, would you like to seek in another area?"
I've always wanted to grab the barrister background, the Squawk! feat and play as the hyper-chicken lawyer from Futurama.
0:17 - "And I'm actually going to remember to put the time code here this time" And yet... >D
"Because they went somewhere they shouldn't... And they triggered the trap... Of an Archdruid... They turned into squirrels...." Yup, sometimes it do be like that.
Ohh I'm so glad you're doing these again! My first ever Pathfinder 2e game is coming up soon and I'll be playing a redeemer champion Poppet, so hopefully you get to that ancestry eventually!
I love watching the ancestry guides, recently got into Pathfinder 2E and watching these guides causes me to theory craft so many characters
Never played one, but I love the flavour of these guys. Wish Paizo did more with them in APs and stuff, but I guess they're pretty rare by default.
So happy that this series returns.😁
Glad to hear this kind of content is coming back!
8:18 "so bat man, want some drugs?"
For the people curious about the benefit of the 15 feet seek, instead of 10 feet.
In combat if you are fighting a invisible or really well "hidden" creature it helps to finding it in a wider range.
But to be honest is very rare for creatures to be able to do this
There has been a small influx of humans being adopted by tengus after players realize that Tengu weapon familiarity grants martials training with falcata (fatal d12) and nodachi (deadly d12 and reach). Still nowhere as popular as the Golarian gnomish orphanage for humans though.
Woooo, thanks for making more of these!
I'd probably say the 10-foot square limit on Seeking for objects is only for when time is at a premium or if you're looking for like, a knife on a table or something. If you want to look through an entire room, that's what the Search or Investigate activities are for, Seek is just a quick scan to see if anything stands out.
for scavenger's search, if i was dming, i would probably use it rules as written during combat but give the player advantage on rolls to seek out of combat
These videos are a great resource for players, thank you.
A fighter can use weapon familiarity to get a Falcata at expert at level 1. That is a one handed fatal d12 melee weapon.
Edit: Falcata not Falchion
Do you mean a falchion? Cause that’s the closest weapon I could find, and it’s neither one handed, fatal or a d12.
@@cosmoniums5990 thanks I have edited
I just love the fact that Tengu have this weird eastern connection with the tengu human form, the oni form, and the weird sword mastery stuff they have going on.
The birds have such good flavor, DnD ain't got shit on my birds. (Can't talk, pfah.)
yeah nonat these are the vid that brought to your channel to begin with and class builds and i would love to see more archtypes vids and maybe starfinder. also would love to see other ttrpgs explored on your channel.
At least how I've done it, seek is something you do in combat, mostly against undetected or invisible foes. Searching a room wouldnt be seeking, but we had a fun fight with an invisible enemy a while back and our investigator got some use out of his cracked perception guessing roughly where the enemy was based on what had happened and rolling seeks to check so the party could target him
WOOO!!!!! Proud of you nonat!
One-toed Hop essentially also allows you to STEP into difficult terrain!
PF2E ancestry guides are back! YAY !!!
The Seek Rules become important in combat, when someone might be Invisible 4th with Swift Sneak, so they could be anywhere within ~25' of their Hidden.
Good to see them back :)
Magpie Snatch is now my new band name.
TH-cam finally started recommending your videos to me again. Lets goooo. Kick that algorithm in the booty.
Love this Guides
Seeking in combat is for if an enemy becomes undetected, or if there are snares, things like that. An invisible enemy that can roll stealth competently makes it important! I mostly know the rule for when my players are invisible, in fairness.
There are so many amazing feats here. Amazing for an Ancestry Paragon game. You can be a Wavediver Tengu who's a duck :P
Actually just started playing a tengu in a short adventure (3-ish sessions), and I don't know why I haven't earlier. Wavetouched pirate ranger. I couldn't resist Magpie Snatch either. (Two of us decided to take tengu for this one, not pirates per se, but definitely ocean-going)
My fave ancestry, looking forward to this 🤠
I once played a Tengu Paladin named Justice Smitewing. I miss that selfless idiot. Great video!
I LOVE your tengu voice.
Magpie snatch. Why'd you have to put that idea in my head. lol
AYOO, TENGU IS RAAAD
Whoa Storm's Lash is just free Electric Arc? Man I've been sleeping on Tengu
Seeking to me is like looking around like I do when I can't find my keys lol
"Oh my god, why does your dress look that bad? W-w-w-WAAAWK!" ROFTL. You need to do a short with further examples of how to use the feat.
Morgan Freeman naration:
Nonat would not remember to put the time code there this time.
Dude love your work. I couldn't care less about This ancestry but yet I know I will watch it.
Intersting video. I was not aware of the series. I usually have issues grasping ancestries so I will probably go through the list.
A few remarks:
4:13 That is basically "Arrest a Fall", minus the normal reaction cost.
5:30 I am really confused about those Ancestry Attacks. It seems like they think having 1D4 S/P instead of 1D4 Bludgeon is a _advantage_ somehow? But it realy is not in the game. Resistances and Vulnerabilities simply do not work out that.
Either the damage type does not mater - or Bludgeon is the best option for 95% of cases when it does mater. So any 1D4 Agile will be worthless compared to the Fist.
9:56 Nope, you are not crazy. None of them work that way. Only Tengu do. They are definitely not "birds of a feather".
However, "Common Advanced" Swords is 2 swords as of Treasure Vault. So unless the campaign overwrites rarity of some weapons, it does nearly nothing.
10:21 Creatures would still have 5 fire Resistance, however.
16:49 You can simply say "Scaling Weapon Proficiency". Because it is "Expert or Greater", so it scales from then on.
7:40, yes I use this rule, especially in a dungeon or similar situation. I like to encourage my players to pay attention to their actions, choosing where they are searching carefully, listening for danger at specific doors. After coming from 5e where everything was very lackadaisical and players sort of generalised their actions and assumed I'd make it work. I made sure to run PF2e as written, my players know I'm doing this, to break bad habits set by 5e.
One-toes hop also would let you "step" into difficult terrain which can save your butt a little
Birdy gang! Love the little bird fellas.
So, I'm actually playing a tengu bard in a kingmaker campaign and I dunno if it's RAW, but I actually used Eat Fortune to kill a party members hero point reroll cause it was gonna cause a crit fail diplomacy check.
17:25 imagine your fighting a tengu, you have trained all you life with your rapiar ready to skewer this brawler and they rip the weapon from your hands with brute force takes a few practice swings in front of you and then start stabbing you faster then you could ever dream while coting the weapon in lighting.
I missed this series a lot
I have a Tengu Ancestor Oracle in my current party. She's very spaced out.
Love how well NoNat is at imitating furry characters 😂
If you've lost track of a creature (so undetected, but not unnoticed), you have to use Seek to find them, and in that situation I would absolutely enforce the area limits that they're searching.
Yeah, the only time I would enforce the 10-foot emanantion is if Seek is used in combat.
@Nonat1s "I'm Actually going to remember to put the timecode here this time." Proceeds to omit the time code for comedic effect.
YES. COMEDIC EFFECT. ALL INTENTIONAL. YOU MAY LAUGH.
06:38 · The Meat🍖& 🥔Potatoes🥔
goddamn right I make you seek multiple times for a large room
Watch consistently and repeatedly.
I adore a wavediver tengu because I’ve earned the right to be a penguin pirate.
I been raring for this one! My bird bois!
4:15 I think the word you're using for is fluttering your wings?
Can tell you used to be a Let's Player, expecting videos to immediately balloon to their expected viewcount and having to acclimate to how an entirely different branch of videos works. I'm happy you're seeing the light though :)
Personally I really like and constantly re-watch your, as you say, evergreen content. I've fallen asleep listening to class deep dives, and I hope that my TH-cam Premium makes that worth your while. And I am looking forward to you using the rules remaster as an excuse to remake all of them :P
The only Problem with the Tengu Ancestry is, That I always think of the Japanes Folklore Fantasy Kreatur of Tengu (Wings, Red Mask with long Nose) and NOT about Crow-Humanoid.
WHy Paizo did you named it this way..
I want my Japanes Tengu AND Like my Crow... I will put 2 Crow before your Doors. as attempted Warning.
Just realized your video is mirrored. Was really gonna gripe about that left-handed salute at the intro. Still sloppy execution, but not backwards as heck. Also, birb people, skwack!
the 10foot by 10 foot thing i only use when there is an invisible enemy around.
Magpie Snatch could work nicely if someone uses Disarm attacks regularly too…
I'm surprised they went with kotengu instead of daitengu since that's the more iconic one
Do an ancestry video on the pug people
SQUAWK
Kineticist deep dive when tho?
16:49 - I think Tengu Weapon Expertise might be kinda useless. The wording on Tengu Weapon Familiarity is noticeably different from its equivalents for other ancestries. It specifies that the weapons chosen are considered simple for the purpose of proficiency. As written, that also seems to include the Advanced swords, too. So Expertise would only be useful if you do not increase your proficiency with all simple weapons. And if you don't get that already you probably shouldn't be hitting things with a sword in the first place.
says having the ability to wield... the falcata.
Does sqwak work with bon mot cause if it does it can save you from the crit fail effect
Does MountainKeeper Tengu's ability to cast Disrupt Dead as Divine or Primal matter since you can use any spell DC/prof with innate spells?
It's very niche, but some enemies and characters have inherent resistances to specific traditions of magic.
Check out the Superstition Barbarian to see what I mean.
But again, VERY niche.
18:00
If you have the main weapon and the 60 feet reach rune weapon ss a back-up?
For Scavengers search: we used it as late as last session when the players had to find shards of a broken crystal while fighting the tomb guardians so they could recreate the control crystal and take control of them :)
A TENGU sky pirate ship right barbarian with a lot of hammers #RotGrind
Hey @nonat1s you might wanna crop your thumbnail for these videos. There is a red bar at the bottom that makes it look like the "viewed" bar that TH-cam has. I almost didn't watch this video because it looked like I already watched it on mobile.
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Shiftry build?
Well if it doesn't work unless you use Fireball. Wait I am thinking wrong aren't I?
Mariners fire is kinda useless.
It cant ignite items for light, and enemies underwater have resistance 5 to fire damage from being underwater. I dont understand the point?
when kitsune ?