One interaction I think is kind of cool is that the Orc Warmask is counted as an item, which means that Orc Wizards can use their Warmask as their Arcane Bond.
If I recall correctly, on Golarion a number of dragons nest in the mountains surrounding the Hold of Belkzen, the largest orc nation in the Inner Sea region. That might explain the connection to dragons- one or more clans might have struck up arrangements with them.
The orc-drake connection. There's a group of orcs in paizo's setting that ride drakes (or dragons, idr which) into battle. O forget where I read it but I remember it was super cool!
Agree on the flexible ancestry boost - currently playing an orc barbarian with the inventor free archetype. There’s a lot of flavouring here, but she wields a chainsaw! Which happily explains the giant instinct clumsiness and damage etc. But the fact that orcs can be strong and smart is so cool (point of order though - Eberron did this way back when).
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Barbarians have a feat called reckless abandon which gives them a +2 to attack rolls and -2 to AC whenever you dip below half health. Thats ones a pretty great high risk high reward
I like the idea of getting bonuses when you have conditions (reminds me of the Guild Wars 2 Necromancer). You could have an archetype based around taking on the suffering of others and getting bonuses in return (I had a GW2 necro that did this).
Admittedly the voluntary flaws system means that the don't need to, since it can both be used to make a dumb orc and do stuff like make a charismatic Dwarf.
Honestly its what made me play Wrath of the Rightous. That got me into the tabletop and Im in my first adventure rn. I love Goblins and Orcs but dont like being locked into being dumb or lacking compassion ontop of how ugly they are usually portrayed. Kept me from d&d for sure.
A note I the 17 lvl feat temp ho from different sources can stack meaning the temp for standing up from earlier in orc ferocity chain as well as the temp hp from dropping an enemy to 0 should stack giving a slightly bigger cushion to prevent auto dropping
I love this video! Orc is definitely my favorite ancestry and makes me wish I had double or triple the ancestry feats! Maybe for another video you could do best skill feats or "hidden" legendary feats like Quick Climb and Disturbing Knowledge
The superstitious instinct gives you a +2 status bonus to saves against magic, so it would stack with the +1 circumstance bonus from orc/pervasive superstition.
If I ever get to play Pathfinder I would love to play a giant instinct barbarian war orc. Yet a dragon instinct scarred orc would be a good second choice too.
Lately I have been using orc and bolt on heritages from Ponyfinder's Untamed Lands the the Hybrid Blood ancestry feat Exotic Chimera for a really powerful character
I could have given my Aasimar Champion darkvision and instead chose to give him the Halo feat (light basically) because flavor wise I just loved the idea of him bringing light into darkness and also just completely stating "come at me" to anything in the dungeon.
You not watching LOTR made my blood boil so hard I unsubscribed just so I could resubscribe, AND THEN I liked the video as an additional screw you! But seriously go watch LotR. Great films, classics for fantasy nerds, and the practical effects make them hold up really well.
12:50 My good girl, the half-orc-rogue with sorcerer Ancestry has her eyes glowing purple whenever she is casting a spell... I think I would have done the same if I had given her warmask in addition (which would have freed one of her important spell-slots which is reserved for True Strike) and have parts or the whole mask glow too right before she attacks (or casts a spell with attack roll)
In abomination vaults I play a grave orc with susperstition instinct. Off the rip I get nice bonuses against magick that only gets better. Took bounty hunter for flavor, hunting down cultists as he survived as a slave sacrifice by a cult. Cool and fun, but has some party issues with our cleric based off how he plays.
Just gonna get all my random thoughts out on one comment: I guess I’m one of those weird people that did flavor over function by going Rainfall Orc in Strength of Thousands. I really wish Orc Superstition didn’t have the concentrate trait so my barb could take it. Barbs do have the Come and Get Me feat that give you a positive for inflicting a negative condition on yourself. Finally, I hope they add more specific, flavorful feats that tie into the PF lore like the riding drake feat or Demonblood Frenzy. Great video!
For the Iron Hands and Bloody Blows feats, does the Orc Knuckleduster qualify for these feats, since it's technically a punching dagger (and/or brass knuckles)?
They are gateway tools for GMs to control what kind of content is present in their game. Anything considered Common is available from the get-go to any player or character. Uncommon options typically might involve a discussion with your GM, some sort of in-game buy-in (such a Feat or Ancestry/Heritage/Background/Place of Origin granting Access; which, as a note, doesn't prevent someone from taking it, only giving those players with Access a means to essentially ignore the Rarity trait). And Rare (and Unique) are those options that 100% need GM approval if it's at 1st Lvl OR is only granted by the GM as a result of actual play. More or less how it works at a base mechanical level. You are correct in that it also represents things in the game's setting. But there are actual rules applications to them.
Lore drop because you asked for it. The Kharmaja orc hold honors Drake wrangling as a great feat of bravery. Additionally the Orcs of Belkzen have made an alliance of sorts with the dragons of Raschka-Tor
@@sparklingwater925 I'm kinda hopeful that Paizo will release a new Research Field for Alchemists based on drugs or on Homunculus (as an Animal Companion). Fingers crossed 🤞🤞
9:30 WHa... yeah of course! Distracted? NO, you're silly! We need more racial weapons so those Racial Weapon Mastery feats are just "I mean, I guess I could take that. but that feat(basically any) just seems better to take!"
I was already subscribed when I heard the atrocity about LOTR….😱 I’m not sure what to do now. How to spite this blasphemous roleplayer 🧐 I guess liking and commenting is my only option! I hope it’s not perceived as too strong a reaction 😆 Great vid BTW, keep’em coming
Haven't seen or read over it so take it no one commented this yet. He is talking about feats. And ends the video with a foot, I see what you did there. Also Orc's are cool, they'd be nr1 if dwarves weren't around
4:20 *coughs* You need to work on your pitch Nonat ^^ "over 50% are not subscribed" while showing the screenshot with 50.1% watchtime from subscribers ^^
The Superstition feats seem like a second attempt at the Superstition Instinct Barbarian, and they actually did it right this time. This is awesome. The nigh-unplayable Instinct is trash.
@@LetholdusKaspyr That's not nigh unplayable. Just make sure there's an alchemist or medic. Plus the instinct has a built in healing factor. I've played it to lvl 7 so far and had no issues. Only had one close call due to persistent damage but I received battle medicine and some healing elixirs and survived. Sure some of the anathema clashes RAW with party wide buffs but it's easy to work that out with your GM and just deny the buff from taking effect. Also the instinct offers a lot of roleplay opportunity for how you interact with spellcasters in general.
@@LetholdusKaspyr Also one healing spell doesn't force you to leave. You just need to have an in character convo with the healer and have them agree not to cast healing spells on you anymore.
@@cajeb5396 The Instinct is hyperspecialized against spellcasters, and the only actually good part is the saving throw bonus and the rage-heal. Combine that with the limit on your party members' contributions, and you're shooting yourself or your party in the foot more often than not.
If you think orc ferocity is risky you are probably not confirming kills in combat. I'm the type of GM who does that, so if orc ferocity doesn't help it sure wouldn't be in the way
@@diegorodrigues9528 I may have misunderstood you. When you say someone is not confirming kills in combat do you mean the same way we used to confirm crits in 1e?
Orcs having some type of resistance to Magic is just bringing attention to their very physical nature and past. They were also considered stupid enough that they never heavily studied Magic, and its use was rare. I don't see how Orcs are in anyway diverse. All of their feats relate in some way to combat or survival. They are a martial heavy Ancestry. I also hate that Orcs just have Strength and a Free boost when Iruxi get the normal 2 fixed, 1 free and a Flaw in Intelligence. Orcs don't have an intelligence Flaw but the Iruxi do? Which is also stupid as they have several feats that actually deal with intellect. They have a feat that helps them take advantage of the surrounding area and several feats dedicated to Astrology and using the Stars. I also hate the Orc art, mostly. Mwangi has the worst art I've seen of Orcs, because I thought they were just Humans they painted green until I looked closer and saw the little Bulldog teeth barely peaking out of their mouths. Orcs are one of my least liked Ancestries in Pathfinder. Their art is more all over the place than Troll art, their feats are pretty much just a single area of combat and not dying, and are overall far to uninteresting. They're basically just Humans with a focus on combat. It's how they look and how they act.
I'm probably an outlier here: I don't like orcs as pcs. I don't like goblin, hobgoblin, or tiefling pcs. (With the exception of running an evil or otherwise specialized campaign). I like the old-school fantasy reality of evil races. By DND lore EVERY TIEFLING is a sleeper agent for Asmodeus. You have free will to spread the tiefling taint until the day that Asmodeus initiates his plan. It makes no sense that a non-evil setting would just let them walk around. Orcs worship a pantheon of war gods. Goblins/hobgoblins... Need I say more? By making all of these playable and PRACTICAL to play (they aren't run out of town on sight) you dilude the complexity of the setting. Not saying that you can't. Just talking about my feelings lol.
One interaction I think is kind of cool is that the Orc Warmask is counted as an item, which means that Orc Wizards can use their Warmask as their Arcane Bond.
That's... actually really cool.
Superstition Instinct gives +2 status bonus and Orc Superstition gives +1 circumstance bonus. So they do stack and it's a pretty cool build
I like how the Orc feats and heritages emphasize the toughness of Orcs.
Ah yes Orcs, meanwhile me with my British Orc ruffian about to beat some bloke's knee caps
If I recall correctly, on Golarion a number of dragons nest in the mountains surrounding the Hold of Belkzen, the largest orc nation in the Inner Sea region. That might explain the connection to dragons- one or more clans might have struck up arrangements with them.
The orc-drake connection. There's a group of orcs in paizo's setting that ride drakes (or dragons, idr which) into battle. O forget where I read it but I remember it was super cool!
Can we talk about how Battle Ready Orc is BRO when abbreviated?
Agree on the flexible ancestry boost - currently playing an orc barbarian with the inventor free archetype. There’s a lot of flavouring here, but she wields a chainsaw! Which happily explains the giant instinct clumsiness and damage etc. But the fact that orcs can be strong and smart is so cool (point of order though - Eberron did this way back when).
I like how there are ancestry feats that allow orcs to play to stereotypes, and giving them bonuses to being more clever and persuasive.
This video has entertaining Pathfinder analysis, hot orcs, and a cute dog.
This is quite possibly the best video on TH-cam as a platform.
There is one more feat at lvl 5 in magwani expanse that is an upgrade to the fangs
Brogan being so thirsty for orcs is certainly a mood. I feel you brother.
I now want a "Nonat watches LotR" reaction video (well, probably like six videos to keep them reasonable lengths).
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We don't need horsepower. We've got doggopower.
@@Nonat1s Amen!
Barbarians have a feat called reckless abandon which gives them a +2 to attack rolls and -2 to AC whenever you dip below half health.
Thats ones a pretty great high risk high reward
I like the idea of getting bonuses when you have conditions (reminds me of the Guild Wars 2 Necromancer). You could have an archetype based around taking on the suffering of others and getting bonuses in return (I had a GW2 necro that did this).
Yeah. I imagine something like a survival instinct, where the frightened condition increases your survivability and defenses.
I like how they don’t lean to heavy into the dumb orc stereotype. Makes for a much more interesting and varied race with a variety of backgrounds.
Admittedly the voluntary flaws system means that the don't need to, since it can both be used to make a dumb orc and do stuff like make a charismatic Dwarf.
Honestly its what made me play Wrath of the Rightous. That got me into the tabletop and Im in my first adventure rn.
I love Goblins and Orcs but dont like being locked into being dumb or lacking compassion ontop of how ugly they are usually portrayed. Kept me from d&d for sure.
A note I the 17 lvl feat temp ho from different sources can stack meaning the temp for standing up from earlier in orc ferocity chain as well as the temp hp from dropping an enemy to 0 should stack giving a slightly bigger cushion to prevent auto dropping
I love this video! Orc is definitely my favorite ancestry and makes me wish I had double or triple the ancestry feats! Maybe for another video you could do best skill feats or "hidden" legendary feats like Quick Climb and Disturbing Knowledge
The superstitious instinct gives you a +2 status bonus to saves against magic, so it would stack with the +1 circumstance bonus from orc/pervasive superstition.
i watched all of your ancestry guides in the span of a day! im loving this content
I made an Orc animal instinct (ape) barbarian with the Wrestler archetype for Fist of the Ruby Phoenix. So badass.
I have just made a orc berzerker barbarian two weapon warrior because of this video.....he is also a sailor (Pirate)
finally some love on my favorite Pathfinder race
I may not be subscribed-but I have had you directly address my subjects on video-like last week, and well HECK YEAH I HELP. :)
FINALLY MY FAVORITE ANCESTRY
If I ever get to play Pathfinder I would love to play a giant instinct barbarian war orc. Yet a dragon instinct scarred orc would be a good second choice too.
Lately I have been using orc and bolt on heritages from Ponyfinder's Untamed Lands the the Hybrid Blood ancestry feat Exotic Chimera for a really powerful character
I could have given my Aasimar Champion darkvision and instead chose to give him the Halo feat (light basically) because flavor wise I just loved the idea of him bringing light into darkness and also just completely stating "come at me" to anything in the dungeon.
One of these days, XPtolevel3 is going to tie you to a chair and force you to watch LotR with him. For the content.
I love the mail notification at 12:24. I know it can happen during recording. Trust me. I just find it funny
You not watching LOTR made my blood boil so hard I unsubscribed just so I could resubscribe, AND THEN I liked the video as an additional screw you!
But seriously go watch LotR. Great films, classics for fantasy nerds, and the practical effects make them hold up really well.
Could you do another archetype deep dive? I've been looking into wrestler but I can't understand how they work. Love your content!!
Did you forget Demonblood Frenzy?
We gather for the great moment nat finally dives into the race that made their signature the fist spell.
Why don't you like Orc Weapon Expertise? It would be great on a Gunslinger, giving you that really good hit modifier with a melee weapon as a backup.
I think Weapon Expertese also makes Martials Simple for Deadly Simplicity?
12:50 My good girl, the half-orc-rogue with sorcerer Ancestry has her eyes glowing purple whenever she is casting a spell... I think I would have done the same if I had given her warmask in addition (which would have freed one of her important spell-slots which is reserved for True Strike) and have parts or the whole mask glow too right before she attacks (or casts a spell with attack roll)
This makes me green with envy!
The ones crawling up the walls are goblins - the uruk-hai are mostly frontline brutes.
In abomination vaults I play a grave orc with susperstition instinct. Off the rip I get nice bonuses against magick that only gets better. Took bounty hunter for flavor, hunting down cultists as he survived as a slave sacrifice by a cult. Cool and fun, but has some party issues with our cleric based off how he plays.
Just gonna get all my random thoughts out on one comment: I guess I’m one of those weird people that did flavor over function by going Rainfall Orc in Strength of Thousands. I really wish Orc Superstition didn’t have the concentrate trait so my barb could take it. Barbs do have the Come and Get Me feat that give you a positive for inflicting a negative condition on yourself. Finally, I hope they add more specific, flavorful feats that tie into the PF lore like the riding drake feat or Demonblood Frenzy. Great video!
Are Orcs the best ancestry?
Yes, other Igor, yes they are.
For the Iron Hands and Bloody Blows feats, does the Orc Knuckleduster qualify for these feats, since it's technically a punching dagger (and/or brass knuckles)?
Nonat asked for more negative condition synergy. Paizo said hold my beer and made the oracle.
Orcs are considered common in the Mwangi expanse for what it's worth. I suspect it is listed as uncommon for PF society reasons.
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Oh trust me, she doesn't let me record in peace EVER lol
My orc magus tax collector is currently crushing the vaults. Greatpick crits on the front line is wrecking house.
I thought common, uncommon and rare just literally means how present they are in golarion
They are gateway tools for GMs to control what kind of content is present in their game. Anything considered Common is available from the get-go to any player or character. Uncommon options typically might involve a discussion with your GM, some sort of in-game buy-in (such a Feat or Ancestry/Heritage/Background/Place of Origin granting Access; which, as a note, doesn't prevent someone from taking it, only giving those players with Access a means to essentially ignore the Rarity trait). And Rare (and Unique) are those options that 100% need GM approval if it's at 1st Lvl OR is only granted by the GM as a result of actual play.
More or less how it works at a base mechanical level. You are correct in that it also represents things in the game's setting. But there are actual rules applications to them.
How DARE you not see the glorious LotR movies!!! I am subscribing and liking the video out of SPITE now! How do you like that, huh?
Ahhh my feelingssss 😭😭😭😭😭
9:23 His eyebrows are firm, but kind...
Could you do half elves and half orks?
Lore drop because you asked for it. The Kharmaja orc hold honors Drake wrangling as a great feat of bravery. Additionally the Orcs of Belkzen have made an alliance of sorts with the dragons of Raschka-Tor
How have you not seen LOTR!
Look at that baby face.
Err... Have you heard of Mutagens and of Oracles? :D
And drugs
@@sparklingwater925 I'm kinda hopeful that Paizo will release a new Research Field for Alchemists based on drugs or on Homunculus (as an Animal Companion). Fingers crossed 🤞🤞
9:30 WHa... yeah of course! Distracted? NO, you're silly!
We need more racial weapons so those Racial Weapon Mastery feats are just "I mean, I guess I could take that. but that feat(basically any) just seems better to take!"
I was already subscribed when I heard the atrocity about LOTR….😱 I’m not sure what to do now. How to spite this blasphemous roleplayer 🧐
I guess liking and commenting is my only option! I hope it’s not perceived as too strong a reaction 😆
Great vid BTW, keep’em coming
Haven't seen or read over it so take it no one commented this yet.
He is talking about feats. And ends the video with a foot, I see what you did there.
Also Orc's are cool, they'd be nr1 if dwarves weren't around
4:20 *coughs* You need to work on your pitch Nonat ^^ "over 50% are not subscribed" while showing the screenshot with 50.1% watchtime from subscribers ^^
Shhhh. I can read, I promise, even though it never seems like it 😂
✨Orc Daddy✨👀💦
Watch LOTR. Extended editions. Just marathon it. Do it now. Now. You won’t thirst for orcs anymore, only for Sam.
Darkvision elixirs FTW, nonat, if you are playing a human.
Can we do a LotR watch party?
I actually have 2 orcs a male warlock(pathinder 2e homebrew not dnd) a female orc ranger
Orcs and Goblins are my favorite Ancestries cuz they're crazy XD
Same here
The Superstition feats seem like a second attempt at the Superstition Instinct Barbarian, and they actually did it right this time. This is awesome. The nigh-unplayable Instinct is trash.
Smh the instinct is alright, not trash, and the Orc feats synergize with that instinct
@@cajeb5396 Accepting magic cast on you is anathema. A healing spell from a friend forces you to leave the party. Dumb.
@@LetholdusKaspyr That's not nigh unplayable. Just make sure there's an alchemist or medic. Plus the instinct has a built in healing factor. I've played it to lvl 7 so far and had no issues. Only had one close call due to persistent damage but I received battle medicine and some healing elixirs and survived. Sure some of the anathema clashes RAW with party wide buffs but it's easy to work that out with your GM and just deny the buff from taking effect. Also the instinct offers a lot of roleplay opportunity for how you interact with spellcasters in general.
@@LetholdusKaspyr Also one healing spell doesn't force you to leave. You just need to have an in character convo with the healer and have them agree not to cast healing spells on you anymore.
@@cajeb5396 The Instinct is hyperspecialized against spellcasters, and the only actually good part is the saving throw bonus and the rage-heal. Combine that with the limit on your party members' contributions, and you're shooting yourself or your party in the foot more often than not.
I'm also a "terrible" nerd and don't know, or like, LotR all that much!
No work with doing gets done without Orks!!!
If you think orc ferocity is risky you are probably not confirming kills in combat. I'm the type of GM who does that, so if orc ferocity doesn't help it sure wouldn't be in the way
Is confirming kills RAW?
@@neurolancer81 what do you mean?
@@diegorodrigues9528 I may have misunderstood you. When you say someone is not confirming kills in combat do you mean the same way we used to confirm crits in 1e?
@@neurolancer81 nope. I mean hitting them after they fall to make sure they are dead
Why play a Half-Orc... ... ... when you can play the REAL DEAL! :-P
You better have seen Lord of the Rings, the Director's Version, by now.
No, I'm not listening. I'm admiring Orc Daddy
I actually am very offended that you haven’t seen LotR. JK
What if instead of a half-orc/half-elf we just have a half human versatile heritage
WHAT?!
HOW THE F U C K HAVE YOU NOT EVEN ACCIDENTALLY WATCH LOTR?!
Doesn't like the oracle because it's very risky. Praises orcs for the same thing. Just nonat1s things
How dare you not watch the Lord of the Rings!? Take this Like. You're just lucky I'm already subscribed or else I'd subscribe too...
The age of men is over....
I won't like the video out of spite.
I will for pupper, though.
I liked the video, but I will not subscribe cause you did not watch LotR
I liked the video because I hate the fact that you conciously decide not to watch lord of the rings. How dare u.
I struggle to sit still long enough to watch movies!!! I'm sorry!!
I would guess you probably lost subscribers because you haven’t seen LotR.
Orcs having some type of resistance to Magic is just bringing attention to their very physical nature and past. They were also considered stupid enough that they never heavily studied Magic, and its use was rare.
I don't see how Orcs are in anyway diverse. All of their feats relate in some way to combat or survival. They are a martial heavy Ancestry. I also hate that Orcs just have Strength and a Free boost when Iruxi get the normal 2 fixed, 1 free and a Flaw in Intelligence. Orcs don't have an intelligence Flaw but the Iruxi do? Which is also stupid as they have several feats that actually deal with intellect. They have a feat that helps them take advantage of the surrounding area and several feats dedicated to Astrology and using the Stars.
I also hate the Orc art, mostly. Mwangi has the worst art I've seen of Orcs, because I thought they were just Humans they painted green until I looked closer and saw the little Bulldog teeth barely peaking out of their mouths.
Orcs are one of my least liked Ancestries in Pathfinder. Their art is more all over the place than Troll art, their feats are pretty much just a single area of combat and not dying, and are overall far to uninteresting. They're basically just Humans with a focus on combat. It's how they look and how they act.
I have canceled my subscription. When you watch The Lord of the Rings, I will subscribe you again
I'm probably an outlier here: I don't like orcs as pcs. I don't like goblin, hobgoblin, or tiefling pcs. (With the exception of running an evil or otherwise specialized campaign). I like the old-school fantasy reality of evil races. By DND lore EVERY TIEFLING is a sleeper agent for Asmodeus. You have free will to spread the tiefling taint until the day that Asmodeus initiates his plan. It makes no sense that a non-evil setting would just let them walk around. Orcs worship a pantheon of war gods. Goblins/hobgoblins... Need I say more? By making all of these playable and PRACTICAL to play (they aren't run out of town on sight) you dilude the complexity of the setting.
Not saying that you can't. Just talking about my feelings lol.
Stupidest call to action....SO FAR!
I like how cool and diverse Orcs are. And I love how idiots think they're racist.
i watched all of your ancestry guides in the span of a day! im loving this content