Does the Story of Abraham Contradict Itself?
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- Many critical scholars assert the account of Abraham in Genesis is hopelessly contradictory. Allegedly, there are too many duplicates to make sense of what is going on. But when we study these alleged duplicates we find they actually work together to form a coherent narrative.
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I love all your supposed contradiction videos. I also love your debates. Could you potentially debunk some small “contradictions” in TikToks and shorts(such as the way Judas died)?
I could look into doing that
Sam Shamoun have a video debunking
That claim it’s very good
@@InspiringPhilosophy I’ll be looking forward into it! Thank you!
Get "The Big Book of Bible Difficulties" by Normal Geisler and Thomas Howe. 800 pages of going through supposed "contradictions" from Gen-Rev. The Judas "contradiction" you mentioned is in there: he was hung and his body fell on rocks and his body burst with blood. No contradiction. God bless you my friend :)
@@InspiringPhilosophyCould you make a video on the arguments for and against the intercession of saints?
Compelling ideas here, well done! The Bible is not propositional theology it is poetry. Modern people fret over these issues unlike the ancient authors and readers. The modern solution is to chop up the story to try and solve perceived issues within the text rather than receive the text as it is.
I'd also say the duplicates are evidence of the oral historical nature of the source. That doesn't make it unreliable. Just structured in a way to ease memorization.
Isaac is a composite of several characters. One is Orion, a decan of Taurus.
ORION was a handsome giant granted the ability to walk on water by his father Poseidon. He served King Oinopion (Oenopion) of Khios (Chios) as huntsman for a time, but was blinded and exiled from the island after raping the king's daughter Merope. Orion then travelled across the sea to Lemnos to petition the god Hephaistos (Hephaestus) for help in recovering his sight. Lending him his assistant Kedalion (Cedalion), the god directed the giant to the rising place of the sun where Helios restored his vision. Upon returning to Greece, Orion sought out Oinopion to exact his revenge but the king hid himself away in an underground, bronze chamber.
The giant then retired to the island of Delos or Krete (Crete) where he became a hunting companion of the goddess Artemis. After his death he was placed amongst the stars as the constellation Orion.
Artemis became Dinah, daughter of Jacob and Leah.
@@harveywabbit9541Utter BS.
May as well say Issac also is trans because ít's really Agamemnon's daughter Iphigenia (only the Greek goddess Artemis was dead serious and not having a good laugh at Agamemnon's expense like God did with Abraham pulling a "just kidding" at the last moment)
@@harveywabbit9541yeah this is just drug fueled conspiracy.
@@harveywabbit9541Don't forget HORUS😂
Yes, the three sister-wife stories of Abraham and Isaac share remarkable details. I think it is likely to have an original story that diverged into 3 separate oral traditions.
So glad i stumbled upon your page. Truly informative
thank you
Gary A. Rendsburg's Great Course on Genesis and Ehrman's Controversies of Early Christian History really messed me up back in 2016. Your breakdowns over the years have been so helpful! Thank you!
God bless your work IP ! Never stop praying so that god will bless you work even more ❤
I really like you channel been listening for 5 years now I don’t agree with everything you say about the Bible but like you content that makes people think! Us Christians need to have more guys like you out there with channels like this ! You did a great job debating the Muslim guy Daniel that was amazing!
fire work as usual
Thank you
There are no contradictions anywhere in the Bible
I keep getting confused on what to believe I keep going back and forth with being a Christian, then not being a Christian it's been this way for years I want Christianity to be true but I see so much evidence supporting and disproving it for example inspiring philosophie's 2nd video on proof of the resurrection it makes sense but in the comments I see arguments against the bible that some people can't respond to there's people saying that historian's don't believe Jesus existed, and people saying that there's no eye witnesses of Jesus like how can we know there was 500+ eyewitnesses? The final thing I'll add is that some books for the bible were written 40-50 year's after Jesus why wait that long to write about Jesus?
@KingAdjust Historians saying that Jesus didn't exist are absolute jokes almost every historian says he did so i wouldn't worry about that.
About the gospels the arguments for late dating are quite bad the first 3 are probably 20-30 years after whilst John probably is still quite later but that's not a problem. All the apostles were spending their lives preaching we can also see a strong gospel tradition in the letters of Paul showing it to be early
I wouldn't keep looking at comments it's just going to cause doubts. Watch and read credible people and get a strong grasp on the facts.
On constantly changing whether you're a christian or not I know how you feel but in all honesty my reply is look at Jesus he is perfect through it all remember him don't keep going back and forth between atheism and christianity, you can have questions but be committed to Jesus (not the religion but Jesus himself) as you look for answers. Through any situation he is still worth following because he died for you and his commands are perfect.
P.s. the 500 witnesses is in the earliest source (probably months of resurrection) so it's super credible but the whole argument isn't resting on that
I am mad about losing the original writings of the Apostles😢@@joshuahaddow3194
@@KingAdjustif anyone says that serious historians believe that jesus didnt had existed, theyre liars, if anyone tells you that apostles didnt exist theyre sceptics goings against traditions held by evidence, and ip started series on gospels reliability so you should follow it
@@KingAdjust even if God is absolutely real regardless of evidence there will always be a good sounding counter argument.
For example if say “Go away.” There should be no other way to interpret such a simple phrase. Well someone could easily ask what if they’re actually saying that in a joking matter, they actually don’t want them to leave. Just by the nature of free thought there’s always a counter argument somewhere regardless something is the truth or not.
We in actuality have to decide what we believe is true based on what we believe makes sense. If you choose put your trust in God even when in doubt we can trust we will eventually find an answer if we pursue one patiently. That’s how I try to do things
Great vid, Mike! As usual.
I love this channel!!! God bless you IP!
People who say the Bible has contradictions don't actually read it. They cherry pick
The bible is a Roman creation.
@@harveywabbit9541a conspiracist is among us.
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As to the story of Sarah laughing at the Angel (God). The three angels who visited Abraham and Sarah, were Zeus, Hermes, and Poseidon.
Two of the angels (Zeus and Hermes) went on to visit Lot and his wife (Philemon and Baucis).
Has anyone ever told you why Poseidon remained behind)
The answer is very simple.
@@harveywabbit9541 I disagree with your view and I will refute all your claims by comparing both accounts and point out the contradictions.
1. First off the three men purposely came to Abraham and Sarah who had no children yet you compared Philemon and Baucis who also had no children to Lot and his wife who already had two daughters,(And Lot's wife don't even survive) see the problem my friend, now tell me where in Greek mythology was Zeus known to be the god of childbirth? In greek lore the goddess of Childbirth was Eleithyia and she was a close companion of Hera(Goddess of Marriage and children) so why did Zeus go without them? 🤔 not very accurate to scripture in Genesis 18.
2. You're parodying Zeus and Hermes account in Lystra to Sodom and Gomorrah which has about a million contradictions if you add them together, First of in Genesis 19 v 17 and verse 22 contradicts you because, The Lord was omniscient to know the crimes of Sodom and Gomorrah, Zeus and Hermes discovered the lawless actions and the lack of hospitality among the people of Lystra himself when disguised, also God didn't immediately incinerate Sodom and Gomorrah because of the plea of Abraham, so God decided to test them by sending two angels to the city unlike Zeus and Hermes who were surprised by the lack of hospitality of the people and was welcomed by two poor old couples.
3. In Genesis chapter 19 everything contradicts the accounts in lystra and your view itself (because many historic accounts is clear only Zeus and Hermes went to Lystra, and Zeus called upon Poseidon to destroy the city from the waters of the river bank closest to the temple where he hid the couples, so that even refutes you) now analytically one thing the lystra and the Genesis account has in common is that the third man carries the instant punishment, after Zeus and Hermes take the old couples to the temple he instructs Poseidon to open the earth and consume the city with water but here is the contradiction in Genesis because according to the bible the third man of the three who doesn't go to Sodom is revealed as the Lord Almighty because in verse 24 he carries the divine punishment in the city by raining burning sulphur from the heavens unless you're telling us Poseidon is the Almighty among the olympians.
4. The account of lystra actually provides this happy ending as the old couples die and are immortalised by the gods as trees which makes it more of a tale than an actual event, the Genesis account however provides a historic account of a civilzation that lived and still lives to this very day from the aftermath of this event, because from the verse 30 we find out that Lot's daughters who survived the punishment of sodom slept with him when he became old and blind in the caves and their decendants becomes the Moabites and Ammonites, the people from the nation of Jordan in the middle East today are that very descent.
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You forgot the story of Zeus/Jupiter giving birth to Dionysus/Bacchus. Jupiter should be written as IU Piter. The I = male and the U = female. Piter = father. The Heavenly Father is male and female.
Isaiah, another name for Zeus/Jupiter/Indra is also double-sexed.
Critics should learn to read the Bible in its proper historical, cultural and literary context. Once you do this, the supposed "contradictions" disappear. Great video.
History, in the bible, = Zero.
yea
Which ones would disappear?
@@RyanJones-ew8vm, ALL of them. DUH!
@@mysotiras21 instead of saying " all of them, duh!" Why not say which ones? Or do t you actually know?
I litteraly have only understood the Abraham story as one cohesive narrative, its ridiculous to me that someone could look at it and think its duplicated
Praise be to God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit 🙏 ✝️🕊
Great video as always
love your channel, really helps me in my faith, God bless
Great video IP... Would you ever make a video responding to more advanced critiques of contingency/ infinite regress arguments?
Infinite regress is not an idea supported by science. All the cosmological data we have of our universe points to its perpetual end thanks to entropy, but the universe doesn't collapse into itself, rather it just keeps on going as nothingness. If this is the case then infinite regress or a universe popping into existence whenever another goes isn't possible. If not, then infinite regress still has no place in logic and the natural state of the world, since virtually everything has a cause and an infinite regress would just beg the question, what caused it?
Infinite regress isn't actually against theists but against the atheists reasoning for who created the untreated
I just love the Bible so much... GOD is so amazing! All glory be to GOD :)
Great video InspiringPhilosophy!
Another masterpiece brother!
Thank you for this amazing video. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for making this video!
Awesome work 🔥🔥🔥
Can somebody pray for me? Basically, i am a reborn christian after being born-again and enjoying a good relationship with God with certainity of my salvation. But after a year, I suddenly have this thought on whether the Bible/Christianity is the truth and these questions made me question my faith and by asking how do we know the Bible is truth? I don't know whether it is just an emotional experience or whatever, but I please pray for me that it might soon be over because I don't want to lose my precious relationship with god😞. If anyone is free to pray, i would appreciate it if you could pray for me that i will finally be certain that the Bible is the truth in whatever ways. Thank you and God bless you. 🙏
Remember what happened to Peter in Matthew 15:22-33.
Stay strong in the faith and keeping focus on Him 🙏🏾
Have courage, keep your trust in God.
Do you have in plan to make more videos talking about Tolkien and Lord of the Ring? Very good video btw.
IP you should come do a talk at Arizona State! I partake in weekly meetings and just wrapped up leading an apologetics discussion forum for the campus ministry Ratio Christi. We're trying to get Frank Turek to come in the fall of next year as well. God bless you!
Thank you for the hard work!
Hey IP I’d like some quick advice. Your channel and other ppl like David Wood, and Michael Heiser have inspired me to consider doing something similar to what you guys do. However I’m not sure on how to go about it. I’m 19 so and I’m thinking about what I want to do for a career, however I’m not sure if I’ll ever be able to do something like seminary because of how expensive it is, what would you recommend?
Start making TikTok videos and YT shorts where you respond to people. That is the best way to get started
@InspiringPhilosophy Ig that is where the traction is. I suppose I could use the small amount of time to link ppl to as many source material and just let them figure it out. Thanks.
the next thing you hear or watch that inspires an idea, share that inspiration in a video. It might require a few takes, but you'll get one you are happy with. Upload it. You can even have it unlisted so you can share it with friends to get feedback. If you are happy with it after that. Make it public. Then move on to the next one.
At 19 I am stoked to hear you want to do something like this. HMU if you want to talk more.
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@strangetheology I’d have to learn how to make videos, plus find the time to do them, and not have any interruptions, but I’d like to essentially bring attention to certain topics and do what IP does, which is filter academia into the lay man’s psyche. The reason I like IPs channel is because he at least tries to be intellectually honest and doesn’t dig his feet into the ground like hyper fundamentalists do. I’m at the point where I have basically no respect for the average apologist or thinker be it Christian or secular.
@@Crimsonlupus you can do a lot just with a phone but I hear you. If you ever want to appear on a podcast and share more of your ideas let me know. I have a spot for random interviews ;)
It's interesting that a lot of what, for 100 years critical scholars have viewed as repetition from patchworking various similar stories, is actually parallelism. I was comparing the ESV and other translations of the "He who sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed" parallelism, and only the ESV preserved it. Not even the NASB used "blood of man," but instead "human blood."
Exactly. It's like scholars forgot how to read stories. The biblical stories are filled with repeated themes and parallel or repeated ideas on purpose. Good stories work that way. The agnostic Robert Alter also points this out in his Art of Biblical Narrative.
This is fantastic.
Excellent critique!!
Thank you for this, Could you make a video answering if there is any evidence for the miracle of the open graves(Matthew 27:51-52)?
I don't think there is any evidence for it beyond Matthew's account.
Matthew 27:53 was referring to the passersby who saw the dead bodies exposed by the earthquake and who entered the city and reported what they had seen. There was no resurrection of “sleeping saints” but merely a throwing of bodies out of their tombs by the earthquake that attended Jesus’ death.
A similar incident took place in Ecuador in 1949. There the dead were buried in large burial vaults. An earthquake cracked open these vaults, ejecting many dead bodies which had to be buried at once to prevent a plague from breaking out!
Everything in the Bible is Fact as 2 Timothy 3:16,17 says. “All Scripture is inspired of God.” There are no lies or inaccuracies because His Holy Spirit was used so that the men writing it wouldn’t add anything that wasn’t true.
Great video, IP! You should also continue your “Copycat Savior” series and do a video about Jesus vs Prometheus.
Jesus, the savior sun, is found in many myths. One of his names is Isaiah aka savior sun aka IU Piter (Jupiter). The savior is both male and female and this is clear in the name. Mesiah/Messiah = Son/Sun of Jupiter. Messiah is three words of Isa (savior) + I (male) + ah (female). The female ah is appended to many names in the bible. Examples are No ah/Nu ah, ION ah (Jonah), Sarah aka Sar + ah, and even Torah aka Tor Upright pillar (male) + ah (female). Even the word Jesus (should be written as IesU) male and female.
The things don’t happen twice that source criticism seems to be based on really has always made me question if they are human. I remember first really encountering this in college and being really confused on the premise.
The Ram God, aka Aries constellation, is still in the Heavens.
For more on this topic, No King But Caesar & The Return Of The Melchisedec is available online at Advantage Books. Peace to all.
I studied “Redactors” in my religious study class (secular) and the professor (I suspect) was trying to disprove the divine authority of the Bible because of the redacters. Thank you for this!
Also, what do we say to those who say that Moses wrote Genesis? Did he?
The "God", in this tale, is the Ram (Aries constellation). He is the "sacrifice." Thus, God is "dead" from the autumn equinox - spring equinox aka six "nights" in Genesis one. This Ram God is the Living God from the spring equinox - autumn equinox aka the six "days" in Genesis one.
Another name of God is El aka the Ram with twisted horns. Ram is noted for his "rod of god." See Zeus/Jupiter depicted with Ram horns.
Moses, like many river gods, is a personification of Aquarius. Moses will return next January with thirty days of weeping (rain). His eyes (stars in Aquarius) are still as bright as ever.
Moses is attributed with the Pentateuch or the first 5 Books of the Holy Bible.
@@harveywabbit9541shut the hell up with that nonsense
@@harveywabbit9541LOL 😂 buggs!
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The monster with the head of a lion (Leo) and tail of a scorpion (Scorpio) became the biblical Israel. Isaiah 9.14-15, Israel, (summer) has the constellations as Leo (noble/royal one), Virgo (Palm Frond), Libra (Reed/water plant), and Scorpio (Liar), The scorpion constellation is called Satan, Father of Lies. See Rev 9.5, where we find the scorpion/Scorpio as the leader of five months signs (Scorpio thru Pisces) These same five constellations became the five sons of Shem (the hidden sun of winter).
The four sons of Ham (heat) are, in birth order, Leo, Virgo, Libra, and Scorpio. This monster called Israel represents the ancient season of summer, when the year was divided into three seasons of Winter/Shem/Nahor aka Sagittarius thru Pisces. Spring/Japheth/Abram = Aries thru Cancer. Summer/Ham/Haran = Leo thru Scorpio.
The Manticore was turned around and became the Griffon.
If you notice the time line, Sarah's second abduction occurred 'after' Abraham's failure with the sacrifice of the animals.
In the first, as well as the second abduction, Sarah was restoring Eve's mistake.
Eve was tempted away by the serpent (Lucifer who became Satan). Instead of Eve staying loyal to God, she abandoned God and followed Lucifer.
The pharaoh represented Lucifer and Abraham represented God. Abraham was seemingly just a poor nomad and the Pharaoh was a rich, powerful king.
Sarah restored Eve's mistake by keeping faith with her husband Abraham and rejecting the seduction of the Pharaoh.
This, as with other tests God puts his people through laid a foundation to go the next step in God's providence to establish a chosen people and ultimately to produce Jesus.
But as Abraham failed in his own test by not completing the animal sacrifice, God's efforts to move things forward was harmed and one of the negative results was that his descendants would have to live as slaves for 400 years.
However, God could still work with Abraham but the test became far more difficult and he had to be willing to offer his son Isaac to God. And also Sarah had to redo her test even though she passed that test the first time.
This is why Sarah had to be abducted and tempted a second time.
I will give a talk about this on my TH-cam channel.
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Moses and Aaron are both 7th from Abraham also.
(1 Chr 1:34) (1 Chr 2:1) (1 Chr 6:1-3)
Joseph has a parallel of spending two 17 year periods with his father. One from his birth until he's sold into slavery, and the other when he reunites with Jacob in Egypt spending the last 17 years of his father's life with him.(Gen 37:1,2) (Gen 47:5-12,27,28)
Moses will return, in January, with 30 days of rain. His eyes (stars in Aquarius) are still as bright as ever. The weeping for Moses is an annual event.
@@harveywabbit9541 So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD. Deuteronomy 34:5
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. Ecclesiastes 9:5,6
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. John 3:13
Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. Jeremiah 10:1,2
(15) Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire....... (19) And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven. Deuteronomy 4:15,19
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; Deuteronomy 17:2,3
There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do. Deuteronomy 18:10-14
Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods. But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain. Galatians 4:8-11
Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, Colossians 2:18
Moses will be resurrected and return at the Second Coming of Christ when the Millennium Kingdom is established (Deut.33:1,2, Zech 14:1-5, Matt 17:1-9, 1 Thes 4:13-18, Rev 19:5-16, Rev 20:4-6). Do not call the stars in the aquarius constellation "Moses' eyes" and that he's bringing rain. This is idolatrous and blasphemous, and you must repent from this annual practice and observance.
Do you have any books on this, i am curious to learn more.
Yes, see the books I cited in the video and the full series
Or just simply read for yourself and realize that it is not duplicated. Study for yourselves. 🤦🏾
I would be very much interested in what you might be able to find out about the Gabriel Revelation Stone.
Which, might ultimately just be another heretical text.
I do not have the literacy knowledge or connections like a person such as yourself, who has made it their job to talk about God and scripture. But it is still something I think would make a worthwhile video.
If you've read through,
thank you very much!
Love your content!
Even if sometimes you may get a little frustrated with the people that don't do their own investigating haha.
In that regard I'll keep looking for myself. But probably won't take any of its word seriously.
Gabriel is another Ram aka Aries character and is highly phallic. The El in Gabriel always refers to the phallus and fertilization.
I've proposed that the incident with Pharoh, Sarah, and Abraham was the cause of the animosity between Egyptians and Hebrews mentioned in Joseph’s story when he is reunited with his brothers in Genesis 43:32
Joseph is the constellation Sagittarius. He rode on the chariot behind Pharaoh (Scorpio). Joseph = IO Seph. The I = male and the O = female...seph = serpent.
Fantastic video
What do you think about the hypothesis that the book of Isaiah has more than one author?
There are several assemblers in Isaiah. Isaiah is a compound word of Isa (Savior) and I Ah, with the I = male and Ah = female. Isaiah is the Latin Jupiter, Greek Zeus, and Hindu Indra. Isaiah is the Sun of both Winter and Summer. See Isaiah 47.3, where Isaiah coms out of winter, not as a man (barren earth)...but as a woman (nurture). The I = Adam and the Ah = Eve.
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Isaiah is double-sexed, just like the mythical Adam.
But I (Isaiah = the spring Sun), will take vengeance - I will not meet thee as a man (the barren Earth), but as a woman (the Earth in summer) (V.3). As for our Redeemer, the Lord of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel is the Sun of the seven summer months (v. 4). Therefore, sit thou silent as the night, and get thee into darkness (Virgo as a night constellation), O daughter of the Chaldeans; for thou shalt no more be the lady of kingdoms (winter months = Babylon). Isaiah 47.
The seven months of "summer" begin at the spring equinox aka Aries thru Libra. This seven months is also the seven years of building the temple (your body). The "Temple" is always destroyed in its seventh month of completion. This is simply the end of "summer" and entry into "winter" aka the five months of Revelation 9.5. Thee five "months" are the five constellations of Scorpio thru Pisces. These same five signs are also the five sons of Shem (winter/hidden sun).
Thanks for this!
Can anyone explain to me why Paul said in Galatians that this story is an allegory? (Symbolism, not a literal story)
Galatians 4:22-24
King James Version
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar
Correct, the entire bible must be read as allegory. The two Jerusalems are the two solstices. Remember where Jesus (the sun) rides the mare and her foal (two stars in Cancer) into Jerusalem. Here we have the summer solstice as Jerusalem. Jerusalem, of the bible, was never down here.
Also, see Isaiah 9.14-15, where Israel (summer) is the four constellations of Leo thru Scorpio. The royal/noble lion is the head (Leo) and the liar aka Scorpio is the tail. Judah/Judea = Aries thru Cancer.
For a graphic depiction of this Israel see the Hindu/Persian Manticore. This beast would be enormous as it is the size of four constellations.
@@harveywabbit9541 I totally agree with you. But this guy is trying to prove it as literal correct?
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Moses is copied from many characters and one is the Greek Ganymede. Zeus fell in love with this beautiful boy (Shinar aka boy sun) and as an Eagle (Aquila constellation) carried Moses/Ganymede to Mount Olympus. Moses/Ganymede became a male prostitute of the gods and provided them with drugs (symboled by the water pitcher in Aquarius). Seems that "Moses" has the suckers hooked on his "dope."
The story is literal, but it is also a theological foreshadowing. It is the same meaning as in 1 Corinthians 10:11: "All these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our instruction, we who have come to the end of the world."
The meaning is also similar to Hebrews 8:4:
"which serve as examples and shadows of heavenly things, as Moses was warned by God when he was about to build the tabernacle: 'See to it,' he said, 'that you do all things according to the pattern that was shown you on the mountain.'"
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Moses had a long history before he was.
As a personification of Aquarius he is also in the company of Osiris, Noah, Bacchus, Hermes, Thoth, Darab, and so many more fictional characters.
The more I think about the scholarship in critical scholarship, the more it seems intentionally ignorant of Hebrew style.
Abraham and Sarah were visited by Zeus, Hermes, and Poseidon. The gods pissed on a cow (Taurus) skin and from this Orion was born. Zeus and Hermes went on to visit Lot and his wife (Philemon and Baucus). Lot then fathered Adonis.
@@harveywabbit9541 take meds schizo
@@harveywabbit9541drugs?
@harveywabbit9541 two dad's?
@@harveywabbit9541 nowhere does it say Sarah and Abraham were visited by the greek gods.
How did you know I was looking up the Isin-Larsa period at this very moment with these events in mind?
I agree. While it is obvious to me that there are sources undergirding the text, source critics far over-exaggerate the lack of unity within the text. To me the Pentateuchal sources (I am not convinced that scholars have found any yet, but they likely do exist) would be more like Q or even the Ba’al Cycle, something being used by a later author. And that later author is the author, not just some compiler.
Is the critic not shooting themselves in the foot by claiming these are multiple sources and therefore multiple attestation
The change in name, how poetic
Another well made video! By any chance, have you ever looked into the theory put forward by Michael Heiser that the Jesus was born on September 11, 3 BC?
I have, it is possible, but speculative.
That video of Heiser working through the astronomy program and Revelation 12 is awesome! Not sure if IP is okay with sharing other links so I'll post a video I did on the subject in a separate comment. I am curious to know why IP thinks it is speculative? I agree that it is, but i'm interested in hearing more.
Can you make a video on Moses' wives or wife? Were they just one person or two: Zipporah and the Cushite?
Moses was a woman (Hindu Akki) before he became a man
Zipporah was Moses’ only wife! The word “Cushite” evidently meant that she was from Arabia, like other Midianites, and not from Ethiopia!
Moses never remarried as if Zipporah had died, as is commonly contended.
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Zipporah aka the singing bird is a clean birdie. She migrates south for the winter and north for the summer. She is often associated with the Dove and Juno. Just like Jonah. aka ION ah. She is three parts female and one part male.
Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end(: Study to know what is ending, and beginning pray for wisdom) come."
Matthew 24:12 "And because iniquity(:ἀνομία:anomia: Lawlessness, the desire to seek have no rules of God) shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Pray for wisdom and love the lord thy God with all your remembering and imagining, for will thy getting get understanding. Love does many things, a few among those is it always believes and hopes with an enduring kindness. Won't you be a good tree bearing good fruit?
nice work
Ip, could you please make a video explaining the Curse Of Ham, and I think a lot of people use that to say that the the Bible is against black people
The four sons of Ham are the four constellations of Leo, Virgo, Libra, and Scorpio. Ham is the four signs/months of summer, when the year is divided into three seasons of four months each. Such as, Winter/Nahor (Sagittarius - Pisces) or November thru February. Spring/Abram (Aries thru Cancer) or March thru June. Summer/Haran (Leo thru Scorpio) or July thru October.
Isaiah 9.14-15, depicts Israel (summer) as Leo thru Scorpio. The noble/royal head is Leo (Cush) and the lying tail is Scorpio (Canaan).
Genesis 9:25 says: “Cursed be Canaan. Let him become the lowest slave to his brothers.” This verse says nothing about skin color! The curse was because Ham’s son Canaan had performed some shocking act or perversion against his grandfather Noah. Ham witnessed this and instead of stopping it he spreads the story. Noah’s other two sons, Shem and Japheth, acted to cover their father. They were blessed for this reason, but Canaan was cursed and Ham suffered as a result of the shame brought upon his offspring.
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Canaan is the constellation of Scorpio. The scorpion is cursed as he is a harbinger of the hated winter season of five months in Revelation 9.5. The "months" are Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, and Pisces.
The same five signs make up Ha Shem, the hidden/concealed sun.
The actual winter season (of the Trinity) is Sagittarius thru Pisces.
Sagittarius = Jupiter/Fire
Capricorn = Earth/Vesta
Aquarius = Air/Juno
Pisces = Neptune/Water
These same four elements are repeated in the spring and summer seasons.
For instance, in Isaiah 9.14-15, Israel (as summer and Siva) is described as Leo/Fire, Virgo/Earth, Libra/Air, and Scorpio/Water. The head is the noble lion and the tail is the liar Scorpio. like in the Hindu/Persian Manticore.
The three fire signs lead off the three seasons of winter, spring, and summer.
Great video
IP Man fighting the good fight.
Thank you
Those chain punches be vicious bruh.
IP, do you think you could start attaching your sources for learning purposes to those who want to know the information to be solidify their faith or to answer questions from people.
Hey IP, I'm a mom of 4 who is a newish Christian, we've only just started going to church in March, myself and one daughter got baptized on the Sunday after Easter.....so my question after my ted talk, what are some good resources for gifted (they all read and comprehend well above the supposed standard age) kids 5 to 14. Like, I see cool graphic novel Bibles and we watch pastor Doug and Superbook, (the older girls listen to Mike Winger, you, TR and some others with me)wonder if there's a quick way to be sure what they're teaching kids is biblical as possible? I'm sorry, I'm scattered. I just want to be sure I'm doing this right. My husband is still agnostic or atheist (I can't tell sometimes) and doesn't go to church but also doesn't interfere....good on that, but I'm really struggling to keep my kids interested in following Jesus on my own(ish)....so any advice you or anyone else could give on children's resources, I would be so so appreciative. Thanks in advance to anyone who makes it through my comment🎉 😂 imagine me irl 😂😂😢 but seriously thanks. I appreciate and am grateful for your content Mike ❤
I do not know of any resources, but the best thing for them is if you disciple them. You need to teach them what the scriptures say. Parents are the best guide into ensuring their kids become Christian. You cannot outsource it. You need to read the Bible with them, and guide them. GEt help from your local church, but you need to be their guide to Christ.
@InspiringPhilosophy absolutely, I just meant, as a form of entertainment. They're learning with me. I guess I'm just getting used to having confidence in myself is all. Thank you again!
Imagine You writing your own book or Autobiography. Now add same story twice. would you? When you hear two story, you use it as a confirmation and not write it twice. Twice,Which is stupid.
When will you make videos on the end times and fullfilled end times prophecies and your views.
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Great question: who would want Abraham (someone willing to kill his own blood because the voices say so) for a father?
Anyone?
Not to worry, Abraham never was.
@@harveywabbit9541 Anyone Abraham like, then?
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Try Ovid's Metamorphoses and the works of Homer.
@@harveywabbit9541 Really?
Tell me, how's Homer and Ovid lately? It's been forever.
You wanna play dumb and miss the point on purpose go ahead...
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We could say that the imaginary Abraham was batshit crazy.
Big fan IP
History repeats itself.
Hey IP, can you please explain John 6:27 in comparison to 1&2 Thess? Paul said to work for yourself, but Jesus says not to work for bread that will spoil.
John 6:27: While physical food sustains people day to day, “food” from God’s Word will make it possible for humans to stay alive forever! Jesus urges the crowd to work for “the food that remains for everlasting life,” that is, to put forth effort to satisfy their spiritual need and to exercise faith in what they learn.
@@sunnyjohnson992 That makes so much sense considering Jesus was emphasizing that type of teaching all through John's gospel, thank you very much.
I got one for you.
Ezekiel 14:14; if Ezekiel is referring to the Daniel that we all know, why would Ezekiel speak of him as if he wasn't alive, being that they were contemporaries?
@@NickNameMatters Daniel is referred to in the past tense; how could that be if he was literally alive at the time & yet to accomplish God's will in his life?
@@NickNameMatters what does that have to do with the verse? Are you understanding what I'm asking??
@@NickNameMatters Daniel hadn't done his exploits yet, so how could he be considered anything if he hadn't done anything yet??
@@NickNameMatters Eze 14:14 - Even if Noah, Daniel, and Job were there, their righteousness would save no one but themselves, says the Sovereign LORD.
See the text? Technically, Daniel WOULD'VE been there, so why is he being referred to as if he's not???
@@NickNameMatters it's speaking of ppl from a past tense. Job & Noah were patriarchs from the past but Daniel hadn't done the things we know him for yet.
Why don't YOU understand the conundrum here?!
That whole Christianity religion is a curse on humanity. Bunch of contradiction and LIES in that BOOK OF SPELLS. 😮
Someone’s angry lol!!
God spells are the seven months that begin at the spring equinox. Satan takes over as we enter the five months led by the scorpion/Scorpio. We are now under the reign of Satan (winter of five signs). Come January, Moses will return with thirty days of rain/weeping.
@@almondwater9583 oh you read it wrong. I'm actually happy. It's time for that fraudulent religion and all these warlocks and witches to LEAVE. let's celebrate 🎉
@@almondwater9583 umm I don't see how he's angry but ok
@@ChilrenofHELIO umm you don't understand Christianity at all
I've always just considered it seperate events. I guess detractors will find ANYTHING to discredit the Bible.
Can you do a video on the rapture
I don't know if you have already done so, but I cannot find a video of yours doing this, but can you address what you think the Bible says about homosexuality and/or not heterosexual behaviour?
Dude. The Angel of the Lord explicitly instructed Hagar to go back to Sarai and submit to her in Genesis 16. ???? What’s the problem?
Hagar is the Greek White Goddess
What do you think about transcendental argument??
I don't use it.
@@InspiringPhilosophy What do you think is the problem with it?
@@bilal535 if you were an atheist would this argument convince you
@@Giorgi755Well I am agnostic. Myb it would convince me. I've seen this argument used by Jay Dyer who is an Orthodox Christian so that's why I am asking IP for an opinion. I mean it's a circular argument but he thinks it's not a problem bcs e.g. we use words and numbers to describe words and numbers.
Please pray for my I don’t know what to do.
Can ANY Muslims please give me a SINGLE verse from your Quran mention ABRAHAM offer up ISHMAEL as a burn offering.??
The only contradictions come up when read out of context. There are no contradictions only misunderstandings in the Holy Bible. It's a book of fact that can not be disproven. The book is the ONLY axiomatic book in history. It's all true.
Jesus Christ is the Son and Word if The Living God!
If you want to pretend that there is only one writer, you are free to do that. It seems to me, the evidence that there were multiple writers and a redactor. How can we know for sure? We can't because they didn't write WHY they each made their stories different, all we know is that they ARE different. Some writers made God to be legalistic, and other writers made God out to be kind. But at the end of the day, the Bible teaches that the earth was made from water, which is not true, so take the whole thing with a GIANT grain of salt.
first off, reinforces that Bible God never punished a man for infidelity. Vs find a verse where God punishes someone for anything...
God actually supports male infidelity many times as in Leviticus 19 with Levite priest and his concubine...
+ vrgn girls and attractive slaves are popular and saved after captured...
This certainly informs us that the bible is a fairy tale.
God bless
I am gonna be frank, stuff like this make me lose more and more respect for biblical schoolars. Like I get the argument for genesis 1 being a combination of sources, even tho I don't really believe it but this is ridiculously, especially coming from the people that claim it was originally an oral tradition and oral traditions have intentional repeatations, rythming later events to earlier ones to help them be more memorable.
And ancient works do this as well, tho more between authors and within one, like writing stories of Caeser and ecetra in a way to invoke earlier culture heroes like Alex.
Somehow, Greek mythology became Hebrew "history."
@@harveywabbit9541 elaborate, pls.
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As to the story of Sarah laughing at the Angel (God). The three angels who visited Abraham and Sarah, were Zeus, Hermes, and Poseidon.
Two of the angels (Zeus and Hermes) went on to visit Lot and his wife (Philemon and Baucis).
Sarah had the last laugh as she is both male (Sar) and female (Ah). She could do the begetting all by herself.
You can’t debunk how Judas died a person can only died once, did he hang himself or his guts Burst open.
uhhhhh he hanged himself then he fall and his guts split open and one of them thought he died when he hanged himself and the medic knew he died when he fell it's that simple.
Moses will soon return with his thirty days of weeping (rain).
After the children of Israel had avenged themselves of the Midianites, and captured their young virgins for future use, Moses was "gathered unto his people" (Num. 31.2), i.e., leaving the Sun, "he went and returned, and dwelt" with the Sun - he completed the circle of the zodiac, or year. Having thus looked upon the Promised Land (summer), Moses died, and buried himself in a valley in the land of Moab (water-father = Aquarius = Moses), "but no man knoweth of his sepulcher unto this day" (Deut. 34.6). Although one hundred and twenty years old," his eye," it is said, " was not dim (his stars shine as brightly now as they did then), nor his natural force abated (the rainy season still comes on every year) " However, the people wept thirty days, i.e., during the passage of the Sun through Aquarius, the Wash-pot (Ps 60.8), or the rainy month.
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As to the story of Sarah laughing at the Angel (God). The three angels who visited Abraham and Sarah, were Zeus, Hermes, and Poseidon.
Two of the angels (Zeus and Hermes) went on to visit Lot and his wife (Philemon and Baucis).
Has anyone ever told you why Poseidon remained behind)
The answer is very simple.
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So you're essentially saying that the author was pushing 🅿️? 🤔...
How much of the Torah do you think Moses wrote himself?
How about ZERO? Moses is a personification of Aquarius and he will return with thirty days of rain/weeping in January.
This is so stupid. Genesis 16 and 21 are not the same events, Genesis 21 happens after Isaac is born. Genesis 16 happens before.
Isaac was also called Orion.
@@harveywabbit9541 you mean like the constellation? I never heard of that association.
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The three angels, who visited Abraham and Sarah, were Zeus, Hermes, and Poseidon. Poseidon is the father of Isaac/Orion in Greek/Latin myths. Zeus and Hermes went on to visit Lot and his Wife. The story of Sodom and Gomorrah (bible) is taken from Ovid's Metamorphoses. This is where Zeus and Hermes visited Baucis and Philemon.
You are neglecting the concept of the stories being songs.
Like songs sung around a campfire.
Or even a modern rap or hip hop song.
Show how pagan religions conflict.
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Can we stop taking these source critics seriously please?
Abraham and Sarah were visited by Zeus, Hermes, and Poseidon. The gods pissed on a cow (Taurus) skin and from this Orion was born. Zeus and Hermes went on to visit Lot and his wife (Philemon and Baucus). Lot then fathered Adonis.
@@harveywabbit9541 thanx?
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We even have "scholars" who believe that Solomon (the SUN) was a historical character. There is also the Mesiah/Messiah aka Spring Sun who brings salvation (crop growth).
Of course there are multiple sources:
Horeb / Sinai
Jethro / Reuel
Dove / Raven
2 animals / 7 animals
40 days / 150 days
Etc, etc, etc. It's not a big deal.
Your channel always seems to support the inerrancy of the Bible. Ie Matthew Mark Luke and John being written by them, and saying that 300 years had passed since their writing.
There is a certain desperation to hold onto the Bible.
Also, the whole story of Sarah is totally messed up and just weird by any moral standard.
Bible John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
Bible 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleans us from all sin.
Al Quran Al-Hajj 36-37 We have made sacrificial camels ˹and cattle˺ among the symbols of Allah, in which there is ˹much˺ good for you. So pronounce the Name of Allah over them when they are lined up ˹for sacrifice˺. Once they have fallen ˹lifeless˺ on their sides, you may eat from their meat, and feed the needy-those who do not beg, and those who do. In this way We have subjected these ˹animals˺ to you so that you may be grateful. Neither their meat nor blood reaches Allah. Rather, it is your piety that reaches Him. This is how He has subjected them to you so that you may proclaim the greatness of Allah for what He has guided you to, and give good news to the good-doers.