Skyrim's Strange Bandits 2 || Elder Scrolls Lore
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2024
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Let's take a look at Skyrim's another 5 unique "bandits". I'm aware of a fact that today we showcased mostly mages, warlocks and necromancers, but I didn't want to change the series title. What's common for most of today's characters is that they display some unique, out-of-game powers like remote viewing, cursing (or silencing) for an extended period of time, commanding over a large number of souls/undead etc. I also argue about Bethesda's subtle censorship of more mature content and how folks like Naris the Wicked or Arondil from previous episode are but a small window into the true, grim reality of Elder Scrolls.
00:00 Intro
02:35 Wyndelius Gatharian
17:31 Naris the Wicked
25:48 Lu'ah Al-Skaven
35:19 Bashnag
42:10 Sild the Warlock
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Ah. No. My sleep can definitely wait for hour.
5:09 that guard bonking his head on the sign XD
I think you understated how much redguards despise necromancy. The fact that she decided on using it says a lot about her grief.
to be fair, all culture descriptions are just generalizations, she could have been more accepting of it similar to some mages in the college of winterhold
One thing I will give Skyrim's writing over Morrowind's: the random ass bandit dens you run across typically have a lot more interesting and fleshed out side-stories in them in Skyrim. I can remember quite a few weirdoes I raided like I was the Nordic equivalent of the FBI, meanwhile I barely remember most of Morrowind's common bandits despite all of them being uniquely named. Just goes to show you what a few diegetic notes can do for environmental storytelling.
Also just, a boat load of more complex scripting to make said encounters way more dynamic than what was possible in Morrowind.
That is true. Lost Knife Hideout was one of my first raided bandit dens (i don't even remember how I ended up there so early) and it blew me away. Easily my favorite aspect of Skyrim as well.
Agree. Though I will say morrowind takes the cake in terms of main story & side questing. I’m kind of dissapointed that skyrim lost most of that depth
And to think i was about to go to bed 😂
literally same!
You're adorable 😊
Bro gonna dethrone Fudgemuppet and Epic Nate at this rate💯💯
Well, he’s already doing better than Mittensquad sheerly by virtue of not being dead.
Pretty easy to beat Epic Nate considering all he does is click bait
Wyndelius' "leave this place" genuinely terrified me the first time I heard it. I don't know why. I didn't go in the barrow after that.
Gotta say your vids have the same energy, Especially in the openings. As the early 2000's history and discovery channel shows. Honestly it blows my mind at the eye you have for good shots and editing. Also great narration and information.
I always wanted to make a documentary style Skyrim video, maybe that's why :)
I love the hostile Orsimer mini-strongholds: Cracked Tusk Keep, Bilegultch mine, & Rift Watchtower. It's like encountering wild west natives, some tribes will make you bloodkin, welcome, & do business with you, other tribes are bandits
42:00 Bashnag could've been a Legionnaire. Orcs are prized in the Legion for their strength and smithing. Maybe this coven of spellswords is his way of preparing to war with the Thalmor outside the confines of legal warfare.
Ah, good point!
The Wydelius Gatharian side quest gave me an M.R. James story vibes. Thank you for another great video!
It’s been a trying week this video couldn’t have come at a better time Skyrim truly is a great place to find respite from the rest of the world and an even greater gift to be guided back into her atmosphere by your lovely words and stories
Thanks so much! Skyrim does feel very relaxing.
Hey, prayers ur summer gets better and less stressful. God bless ✌️
Love the part where the guard hits its Head at the Inn-sign xD: 5:09
Love this Video series!!
Just like with the new encounters in Skyrim, every once in a while i stumble upon a new Channel creating amazing Elderscrolls Lore :D
Glad i found yours!!
50 MINUTES?! OF HIGH QUALITY UNDERRATED CHANNEL!?
Wyndelius's story seemed like Sheogortath shenanigans to me, gave him the idea or recipe for the potion and let his obsession and defence of the barrow do the rest.
Wasnt expecting this but absolutely dropping the other vid i was watching to watch this 😊
People keep saying that Wyndelius was touched by Sheogorath, but I think it's clearly possession. The last entry is dated to the first era, and he acts as if he was a spirit there for a while. Sheogorath is an easy cop-out for anything madness related, but really possession makes more sense.
Awww shit, here we go again 😂 I will have started a new play-through by the end of this video
Man I wish I could get Skyrim mods working again so I could get back to playing and do more lore diving, thanks for the new video dude last one was great!
now that you mention it wilhelm is odd as hell. With this quest and the whole narfi and reyda thing. Reyda could have been killed by narfi and it just broke him permanently. But yeah the fact he had the claw at all is weird, not totally out of question since the shopkeeper had one sold to her but it wasnt for a barrow right next to the village.
I'm starting to think that Wilhelm is one of the best written npcs, because he's so - realistic. Has that smirk all the time and is related to so many subtle, weird situations. So if he's truly shady, it's so subtle and deep, almost too much for a mere game character.
there's a very realistic inconclusiveness to him, it's not very cinematic, but he gives the vibe of someone who just keeps cropping up in relation to an unsolved case or something, but has no evidence that he did anything wrong or anything
or maybe he's just a well-connected but slightly shady innkeeper
or maybe Bethesda just needed questgivers and endpoints for a few different minor quests in the rift and there weren't that many people in ivarstead who made any sense, but i like the idea that the vibes he gave out were deliberate
Great video! Camelworks made like a 4 hour video on Iverstead where he goes deep (too deep some might say) into theories about Wyndelius and Winhelm
Is it the one about dead alchemist & Narfi's sister? I love the video but never finished it so I don't remember the part about Wyndelius, gonna check it out!
@@boreanknight yes indeed!
Maybe Sheogorath himself brought Wynde food and alchemy ingredients to expedite his descent into madness! There's zero evidence of this, but it's a fun thought.
More cheese?
You know, I plan to run a Pathfinder campaign set in TESV Skyrim at some point.
I came across a mod titled "Death consumes all", which I thought would make an interesting adventure hook and thought to somehow incorporate at least the concept of the mod in my Game.
Then I found a short Pathfinder adventure, I think it was included in "The Book of the Dead", where the Players stumble into a Village in the Mountains, cut off from the rest of the world, and almost destroyed by undead, and thought, that'd make a nice introduction to the plotline introduced in the mod.
I knew about the Redguard Woman trying to bring her husband back from the dead, but I didn't really have it on the Screen to maybe incorporate it into my game.
So thank you very much for reminding me of this little story, so I may include it in that plotline.
I like the cinematography of your videos. Its very well done. Thank you for another great video. Hope you have an excellent day.
Thank so much and have a great day as well :)
Always loved Windellius. When I started playing Skyrim, I arrived in Ivarstead while exploring and experienced this quest late at night. I had never played any RPGs before and I was floored with the fun storytelling of the game.
It made me fall in love with Skyrim for the first time.
When it comes to Bashnags unusually potent silent spell, that could potentially come from him being a devotee of Malacath. Curses are part of Malacath portfolio and when it comes to most Orcs on Tamriel, the deities they worship is usually either Trinimac or Malacath/Mauloch. So Bashnag following the latter seems likely and I could total see Malacath enhancing the more curse like effects of spells like burden, silence, drain attribute effects, etc that last for weeks, months, or even years would fit a boon that Malacath might give to his most faithful followers. Honestly think something similar is happening with Molag Bal and Sild the Warlock to. Torturing people, then killing them, capturing souls, and using thier enslaved, tortured souls as your foot soldiers? Yeah that's some Molag Bal worshiper type shit right there.
That's a great Daedra connection, never thought of it!
I always come back to skyrim content to see someone breath life into a flawed classic over and over again. This is a blessing.
Just saw part one last night. This is a treat.
first one you posted was suck a masterpiece, cannot understate how stoked i am for a part two
haha went to bed last night listening to the first part of this series. woke up to let the dog out n pick something else to fall back asleep to and heres this!
I haven't done a Skyrim playthrough in a while. I think this convinced me of what my next game I play will be after my current haha.
The return of the King.
Cracks a beer and packs my pipe. "Welp got a reason to celebrate this Saturday night! The goat has uploaded!"
Thanks!
thanks for the upload
Happy Fathers Day Alek! Great to see some more bizarre bandits in Skyrim!
Maybe that orc belonged to another Organisation, that's wanted by the Thalmor.
Could also be, that he fought in the first great war on the side of the imperials and somehow caught the eye of the Thalmor, or came into contact with them another way, that didn't end with friendly relations.
Or maybe he was something like a spy in service of the Thalmor, and has gone rogue, and therefore fears retribution.
There are a lot of reasons, why he could be afraid to get found by the Thalmor specifically.
your skyrim videos are the best ive seen in years, please make more! :)
Thank you!
Fleeing the nightmare that is tanking in ESO for Borean Knight overanalyzing Skyrim
Ive been watching you since your morrowind battles and I really love your new lore videos. Great job keep it up 👍
Loved doing those battles! Thanks!
What a great topic for a series!! I can't wait to see what whacky and messed up bad guys we get to see in the next one!
I loved the first one, looking forward to watching this!
Loved this one. Looking forward to the next video!! 😊😁
Keep it up - love this series and its quality
My Wyndelius theory is that the magic used by the ancient Nords that allows the Draugr to rise up and defend their tombs got to him from prolonged exposure. Did his potion make him more vulnerable? Potentially, but since so few people choose to stay in one for so long it might not have done anything at all.
Erm, more skyrim? Yes please
Sorry for a third comment, but Wilhelm is a deeper character than I think you realize. He's vowed to 'protect' Lynley, which is interesting. He buys his mead illegally, and most interestingly, during Narfi's quest to find his sister, if you go to Wilhelm first, he gives out Narfi's lines verbatim, in a crazy begger voice. It's incredibly unsettling and the stuff of nightmares. Camelworks detailed this all in a 4-hour video on Narfi and Reyda's quest. In it he outlines a detailed conspiracy where all of these details intermingle and eventually lead to the conclusion that Wilhelm put the DB hit out on Narfi and Reyda.
I was thinking about doing a video on Wilhelm but there's already a 4hr video as you said 😅
I'm aware of most of the things you mentioned, although I have to revisit that Narfi dialogue. Forgot how creepy he can be.
Another great video!
Just the other day I was thinking about how cool would be to have a band of spellswords. Definitely an interesting bunch.
bro chill... you make me to install it again!
Wilhelm is an interesting fellow. He has his fingers in a few odd pies as it were.
On one hand, the Barmaid at his place is someone he's actively protecting/hiding out, as Lynly Star-song is in fact the sister of the man that our favorite incarcerated Black-Briar in Riften murdered the brother over. And was his former fling (and blonde before Wilhelm had her dye it apparently). A connection I wouldn't blame anyone for missing because there's NO way in hell you'd ever actually guess that. You have to ask the man why he's in prison and pick particular dialogue topics. He tells you that you're looking for a busty Blonde girl... and you have to think that's actually the black haired woman in Ivarstead instead of all the blondes that might count (like Katrina in Dawnstar).
There's also the odd (to me) case of how many people live at his Inn as permanent residents. Take the Bannered Mare for instance. Hulda lives there as does Saadia. But they both work there. They don't actually LIVE there. I think even the Winking Skeever in Solitude only has one person (beyond staff) that actually lives there. Morthal has Lobruk, and that's it as I recall. Winterhold as Nelecar, and that's it. The Nightgate Inn has the Gourmet, and that's it, etc. When you're not counting "Someone other than an Employee".
But Wilhelm's little inn? He's got Temba Wide-Arms living there. He's got Temba's Wood Elf Employee living there. He's got Bassianus living there. On top of himself and Lynly. It's an oddly high number. Even for a small town. As by comparison Rorikstead has just the Owner, his Son (who does have another job but close enough for me to count as the child not counting), and the Alik'r contact for "In Her Time of Need".
I don't know why but I always feel that's weird.
Then of course there's the question of Narfi and Reyda, as he seems to be by the implication basically the only person who talks to Narfi. But also knew where Reyda was last seen. Which is oddly suspicious considering drowning in a very shallow, and very safe river (not even any slaughterfish in it). With the odd placement of 2 Iron Arrows near where she is initially. I always suspected those arrows were supposed to be inside her skeleton there but Skyrm Physics did what it did and floated them up and off.
Then the stuff with Wyndelius as well and the fact that he just happens to have the Sapphire Claw for the Dragon Burrow, which itself might be excuseable, heck the General Goods trader in Winterhold has a claw for a burrow... but combined with everything else is just kind of... weird.
Then there's the Stormcloaks that were ambushed and murdered by a Troll just north of town, which also mentioned how they had been getting "repeated complaints from a local" and... I always wondered if he was involved in that too. Just because he seems that oddly connected. Like i"m not sure who else might have done it. Klimmek if he went down there (perhaps for fishing) would have seen it was a troll. The Fellstar Farm family strikes me as never wandering outside of town considering the father's attitude. So who else?
He's... an oddly fascinating character that almost nothing is ever mentioned about.
Though I will say I never thought it was the lack of the claw that drove him insane. Because the last journal updated marks the time as the First Era... I kind of presumed it meant he got possessed by something. Some sort of result of long term exposure to a Draugr infested tomb and the magics that give life to time somehow infecting him.
Probably just me. Just how I read it because if you don't notice that date on the top it sounds exactly like that, despair over not finding the treasure key basically driving him insane. But with the date it suggests something more supernatural taking hold of him.
I also feel "Sheogorath" is kind of like 'Dragonbreak' or 'CHIM' where... people kind of rush to it to explain things that are easily explained in other ways if you think about it. There's a huge thing about how Ivarstead is some pocket of Sheogorath's influence in Skyrim or something. And it points to some pretty weird things. Like the fact that there's a slice of goat cheese on the ground in the farm, that counts as owned so it's stealing if you take it.
First time I looked at that, I didn't go "Ha ha, Sheogorath!" I thought "They're leaving food out for Narfi and don't want you stealing it". Because when I was homeless myself for a time... there were people who did that. Leave food where I could find it, apparently for me, but not directly give it to me. Doesn't need the God of Laughing at his Own Farts (as I see him in Oblivion onward) for that.
Like we know the Draugr Barrows are steeped in a lot of magic and have a way of influencing things through an ingame book by a Draugr researcher. So I don't need to make that extra leap you know?
Bashnag is interesting to me because of that Thalmor paranoia. And I wonder. I mean there's a few different reasons the Thalmor might snatch someone. We know from the Main Quest that they do kidnap and torture people to basically blackmail them into being an agent (As they did, for a while, with Ulfric Stormcloak). We also know from books like Rising Threat and the Great War that the Thalmor are very... forward and long term thinking. They're kind of like Caesar's Legion from Fallout: New Vegas in that way. They didn't just invade the Empire overnight hoping that their army was just going to be better. They set up a ton of spies, they turned local nobles to their cause before hand, they arranged for people to sabotage the defenses before they arrived, or corrupted officers to give Legion soldiers false orders, etc. They hunted down the Blades, yes, but not because "They're blades" but because "they're the MI6 to our FSB", out of competition.
And it makes you wonder if perhaps they're looking to use him. I think "Necromancy is Illegal" is a bit... hard to say in Skyrim. It was in Morrowind, don't get me wrong. If you conjured a Ghost or walked around with a Skeleton the Guards would come down to slap you and what not. But everywhere else? Not so much. And even the College of Winterhold points out that it's not illegal or banned (and the ban was only for the Mage's Guild in Oblivion, which is obvious). But merely that it makes people nervous. And no guard or anything reacts if you walk into town with a Zombie.
Which goes back to the book "The Black Arts on Trial", where someone quite correctly points out that "To the common man the word Necromancer merely means Evil Mage". That a lot of people are ignorant about it and fearful, but in the Empire it was never illegal (Hell the Empire hired Necromancers a lot in the Lore).
But there is one thing that's for sure. Necromancers are a source of Power. The only ones who (supposedly) can make Black Soul Gems that can then provide the strongest Enchantments. A direct military asset if you were so inclined. Having a maximumed Fire Enchantment on your Elven Bow is better than having some Petty Soul of a Fox powering it up. So there could be that reason for it. Rounding up Necromancers because they can make better enchanted gear due to Mannimarco as the Moon personally blessing their Rituals with moonlight to create them.
There's also the idea that as a powerful Necromancer they might see him as a threat more than something like an individual battlemage. A battlemage can throw some Fireballs if it came down to it. A Necromancer could conceivably (and have done so at various points) raise an entire army. So they might be taking him (and other Necromancers) out as a potential threat to their power.
Or hell for all we know he's the brother of some Orc Stronghold Chieftain and they're trying to use him as political leverage against said Stronghold to join them (which is par for the course for them, just no evidence that such a connection exists for the Thalmor to care).
I find it interesting because there's a lot of reasons the Thalmor could be after someone, and you're never sure why necessarily. Hell the only reason they're after Talos Worshipers specifically is kind of two fold. One: Talos scripture basically asserts the dominance of Man over Elves and that's no good to them. Two: By doing so they're causing internal strife in the Empire with its own citizens breeding resentment and civil war, weakening the Empire for World War 2: Revenge of the Altmeri Artist.
I don't think they're really after Talos for religious reasons. They come off as too... secular and concerned with the affairs of mortals for that. Just as they're after Blades because well... enemy spies rather than because the Blades mean anything else.
Funny enough, I never did fall into Sild's trap. The first time I was a sneaky type of thief character when I came across it, so I was sticking by the walls and shadows naturally hoping not to get spotted in the open. Went around the trap and noticed it looking back from the Word Wall. And later finding the pitfall beneath as I explored the place. And once you know, it's kind of hard to fall for unless you're purposefully going an RP schtick or just want to find out. So I never had heard his little speech before this.
Awesome vid as always!
Barring lore that doesn't appear in-game, or only appears in books, I think Skyrim actually has some of the darkest quests.
Quests for Hircine, Namira, Molag Bal & Boethiah have extremely sinister elements. I don't remember anythings as dark as the prelude to Hircine's quest in Morrowind or Oblivion.
I always shoot Wyndelius through the door bars before he finishes his 'Warning'. So satisfying.
Love these type of videos! :D
“these people are far too superstitious for their own good” bro you live on nirn you got ice wraiths and goblins and whatever else. like the doom apocalypse is in recent memory for many elves at that time. people have a right to be terrified every day for every reason on that planet.
We need the skyrim modlist pls
It's "Legends of the Frost" from Wabbajack. It's an older, very basic, lightweight modlist.
@@boreanknight legend
Not a big deal in the long run, but making a video about bandits and having very few bandits in it is quite funny. Still subbed
A SECOND part? Is it my birthday???
wtf? how you gonna drop this right at bed time?
My laptop crashed few times so I had to delay the upload few hours, it's lucky I even got it here :)
@@boreanknight got a second YT tab open so i can remember to watch it first thing ❤
i love you and these videos thank you!!!
I think all the potions wyndelius drank drove him crazy
4:51 if at least half of Nordic barrows have walking dead in then, I'm not sure if that's superstition or reasonable caution😂
The Thalmor Dominion loathe anyone who is not of "pure blood"
Now that I know your broad definition of _bandit,_ I see why Arondil made the first list. Still, I'm glad to see Wyndelius make it to this one. He is indeed one very unfortunate treasure hunter...
7:41 What i like to roleplay on some of my characters is after initial exploration of the barrow drinking the potion and walking in the inn and up to Wilhelm with exact same speech, such an obvious thing to do, imo, wonder why it wasn't included in the original quest as a hidden little optional, would've been hilarious x)
I always felt bad for Luah Al'Skaven
She even tried to warn us
Bashnag to Silvani: "They expect one of us at the wreckage sister."
Silvani: "What are you talking about Bashnag??"
Bashnag: "Yes... The fire rises!" *Curses Silvani*
Silvani: *Suprised Pikachu face*
Oh TH-cam algorithm sometimes so wrong but sometimes so right
It makes me wonder if the dark elf went crazy because of the potion he took, the burrow had some weird magic from the barrow or if he really went crazy from not finding the claw.
Awesome video! Oblivions strange bandits when?👀
Haven't played Oblivion in a long time but I'd love to revisit it.
So, I can't help but wonder if Wyndelious had received any help from Reyda or Narfi in collecting alchemical ingredients. It almosta makes sense, but I'm not sure.
And both of them went insane, I don't know if that matters but it stands out, the more I think about it.
Loved the fist one excited for this one
Borean, have you seen Camelworks deep dive on Narfi? Your theories on Wilhelm are well deserved, he's a murderer.
I've seen it! That video just confirmed all my suspicions lol. I'll have to revisit the video though because I don't remember if he mentioned Wyndelius as well.
@@boreanknight In the shivering isles there is a Dunmer named Syndelius Gatharian who Sheo asks you to drive mad lol
A better word than "bandit" might be "outlaw"
Bandits are specifically thieves who waylay travellers, outlaw is a generic word for any criminal or sometimes even just for those who live outside of civilization.
Bandits are really good fodder for my Dwemer autocannon
I always felt bad for Lua' Al Skaven. My character's a Necromancer/Vampire and i always wished i could help her out. Just reinstalled Skyrim after getting that itch again.
I was suspicious of Wilhelm also but his kindly old man demeanour fooled me....just like it fooled poor Wyndelius...Wilheim knew what he was doing and the idea that he fooled folk with his act probably added to his delight
Great video, btw what is the name of the mod you are using that makes the ebony sword look like that?
Should be "LeanWolf's Better-Shaped Weapons SE". I'm using Legends of the Frost modlist.
Omg yes
"THE CLAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW!!" {/threeeyedspacealien}
There is also the Guy in the Dwemer Ruin. I forgot his name. The Peryte Quest, i mean.
Can you do one on the necromancers of skyrim?
Nice
Your videos are so damn good. So appreciative that there's still content creators doing really well done long format videos for Skyrim. Please keep it up 👏🏻
Sometimes I forget that Skyrim is an old game. Time really flies.
@@boreanknight old but gold. It's truly a testament to the game and the players that it's still played constantly and that videos for it are still in demand. Keep up the great work 👍🏻
Maybe windhelm couldn't bare to have claw anymore so a payment or gift take it.
Bro I've played skyrim since 2012 n never discovered bashnag n that cave system
Yippie
Naris the Wicked. No relation to Susanna the Wicked.
Fjori and Holgeir are just Skyrim’s versions of Oma and Shu from Avatar the Last Airbender. Change my mind. (You can’t.)
P.S. This is 100% just me being silly at 1am. Don’t take me seriously.
Both stories are basically Romeo and Juliet. But R&J isn't supposed to be a romantic tale; it's a story about how vengeance destroys everything beautiful, even love.
Who's alec
Me, of course :)
I was about to go to sleep, much like the rest of us. Instead, I find myself honored with an hour of somniferous Borean bliss! Feels like datenight, thanks BK. 🥰
I just wanted to say how much I really appreciate you. I'll spare the comments section my list of reasons, but seriously-
Thank you for your service!😄🫡
Thank you so much! I had to delay the upload few hours due to tech issues, but at least it helps people sleep better :)