For comparison, my e-Up (a 500 kg lighter car with 200 less HP) would do around 130-160 Wh/km on highway depending on weather. The efficiency of the Model 3 is not only amazing, it seems nearly impossible!
My M3 RWD lifetime average over the total 145.000km is 144Wh/km, and I rarely drive above the speed limit. I aslo start the car in a warm garage each time. 122 seems unlikely, or would indicate an extremely low average speed.
@@thomaskoninger5841 Most of our highways are 100. I typically sit around 103. There is no doubt as you push above 106 you can see a noticeable difference in consumption. So countries with lots of 110 or higher roads will no doubt see higher consumption.
I absolutely love my RWD Highland. Combined highway and city driving gives me 120 Wh/km over 6.500 km. I'm blown away - this efficiency is truly mind blowing.
I am at 123wh/km at nearly 7.000 km with a 2021 facelift model 3 long range. And I have the Pilot Sport tyre not even the e-primacy. Planning to get the e-primacy next year to further reduce consumption.
Very good video. Im going for a highland next week. Coming from 5+ Mercedes and 2 Lexus. All the new Mercedes I've had since 2015 have been rubbish and noticeably cheaper built by the year. I road tested a highland and was very impressed. The i5 I tested was also quite nice. Later MB
7kW onboard is wild, in the UK we can only order the scenic with 22kW onboard despite almost all homes in the UK only having single phase. Its one of the reasons i went for a megane, it offers 22kW which is not that common for a UK model due to the absence of domestic 3 phase. Its still good to have though when you're charging away from home. Great video again 👍
I wish I could get premium sound and LFP. It’s like not wanting a 6.8 inch phone but forced to for the top tier camera/chipset etc. I don’t want speed I want efficiency!
As an audiophile: leave the LR's 'premium' audio. Yes it can go loud but the clarity and balance is quite bad, probably from all the DSP needed to sync so many speakers. Get the standard system and put in another amp and add a sub. The standard drivers seem up to the job.
My consumption is 9.7 kWh on 4,028 kilometers driven so far. Later, after 365 days, I will probably be at 11-12 kWh for a whole calendar year, Tesla Model 3 Highland rear-wheel drive, 65% on the highway.
Lol, using a door handle as a custom configured button to unlock a charge port 20:46 Those third-party devices like S3XY button having access to internal electronics are nice to have.
I agree with the positive conclusion, including the 3 negative points. Naggy camera that works best when being blocked, phantom brake and no stalk for turning signals :-). It seems these days to break every time you meet a truck on a normal road, new annoying "feature".
But Bjorn what is your opinion on several quite annoying things or features that are very common nowadays in other cars auch as fogs lights, massage seats, Android Auto/Apple Carplay, 360 angle/bird view camera, instrument cluster for the driver? I didn't mention the obvious ones that you've already talked about. The above things are not "an optimisation" but rather cutting cost decisions masked as minimalism or something.
Massage seats are very common ? They're optional extras even on S class and 7 series. The "massage seats" on cheaper lower end cars is mostly the lumbar support going in and out, not actual massage. Android auto/ carplay is not needed In Tesla's due to their amazing software. The 360 camera is already here.. Tesla does that but it does it so,so,so much better than the camera based version where they show you a horrible stitch of 360 cameras. Tesla recreates the world around you like in a game and makes it look 3d. Even if you use the 360cam in a rolls Royce you'll see how bad the quality is
@@Twin.motors almost all recently produced Chinese cars have massage seats with surprisingly high quality and they are direct competitor to the Tesla. My former car Tiguan 2018 has a massage seats. If you talking about options: there is no such option in Tesla, right? The software in Tesla is the best but missing Android Auto/Apple Carplay nowadays means you are missing Waze,.which is very famous in Europe and I'd say essential for safety and comfort. Moreover you don't have convenient access to Android/iOS ecosystem which is a great flaw. The topic of cameras in Tesla is very controversial cause lack of lider or similar technologies. Relying only on cameras is not optimal in fog, rainy and dark conditions. Let me add another annoying thing then :) - the reflection of the ambient lights on the dashboard over the front windscreen. In some situations it is very annoying being in your eye-sight.
Fog lights: I never use them Android auto: Nver use it because I want preheating before fast charging (needs to navigate with car). And Tesla's Spotify, etc is very good. AA is needed in cars with shitty infotainment 360 camera: Yes, I miss it in Tesla Instrument cluster: Having everything in one big screen is better and safer. No need to move your eyes between two screens in your dash.
So happy to hear this after 2 months owning a Highland. The consupmtion you are refering to as incredible I would say is still quite high in that car. So far 130 Wh/km after 4000 km where 1000 km of those actually happen to be on the same route as you took in this video. The low consumption and small battery really means awesome A to B times. A small battery with a flat curve with low consumption is so much more worth than a 250 kW charging peak. Big cars with big batteries and high consumptions are the worst (eg. Hongqi), both economically and timewise.
I think I should expect very similar results in my 2023 RWD. Pretty sure it has same battery and drivetrain as highland. Just updated tech/interior and styling
It's not a perfect test to compare. 2 completely different days with different climates and road conditions, not to mention he had issues where he forgot to preheat the battery for faster charging. Most of his charging sessions if not all were less than 150kw on the old video from what I remember seeing.
Hi. Based on your previous and other videos, I was under the impression that LFP batteries don't mind staying at 100% SOC. But I recently watched an episode of engineering explained on TH-cam that explained that they also degrade at higher SOCs. You should watch it if you haven't already ;)
@@Danne89 No 25% VAT is indeed a huge discount! This means you can buy this car in Norway for about EUR 30K whereas this car costs around EUR 42k here in Europe (depending on the VAT percentage of the EU country).
Another very interesting video I just watched 🤔 ( Tow Charging at 70 MPH for 25 minutes ) in the UK we used to flat tow a car with a special solid Bar ie not a dangerous rope or strap. So if you was towed by a recovery vehicle at let’s say 60 MPH it wouldn’t take long before you could continue your journey. Ssssshhhhiiiitttt 🥷🏻 Very interesting stuff
A test that myself and many others would like to see, it pops up often, is a test where you compare consumption on a Tesla M3 with standard 18" versus 19" or 20" You often read other people's results, but there are too many unknown factors in what people write, you also did a test at one point, but the test was with different tires, so it also does not give a correct picture of how big a difference there is in rim sizes
I drove basically the same route (in reverse... Copenhagen - Trondheim) in a 2024 Model Y with the same CATL battery. It is marginally worse only. (The test you made for the Y rwd is at colder temperature which increases the consumption.) Yes these are fully capable of long distance driving - for families it is the car waiting for the passengers not the other way around. (and Indo have a 3 LR awd as well - but for holiday a SUV is better).
Having done about 5 long family trips in our CATL Model Y in Europe, it's 9 out of 10 stops the car that is ready to go before us. I'm sure we may save about 10 minutes on a long trip with a gas car, but not much more than that. sometimes I save time with hotels that have charging which means one less stop to find gas ... Very happy with our choice and have really enjoyed it.
@@TheChainStay Same story here since I got my Ioniq 5. This beast charges so fast that whenever we go for a pee break, usually the car is reporting 80% back before we return to the car. You don't need a huge battery, the charging speed is a lot more important.
Thanks Bjørn. That was impressive efficiency and 1000 km time! As you point out at the end, Model 3 has an impressive list of standard equipment as well. It is a lot of car for the money. I can't imagine why anyone buys new fossil cars.
so why in your opinion Tesla has ca. 15% of the BEV market share only? And its sales 2024 vs 2023 are slightly decreasing? In July 2024 in Europe BMW sold more BEV cars than Tesla. And the MEB’s are constantly selling more than Tesla in Europe. Strange.
@@ALCLCFVIS I am talking about numbers: BEVs sold in July in Europe. Not about what you see around your home 🤣BMW sold 14,869 BEVs, Tesla 14,561. Audi and VW together 20,831so much more than Tesla. And I don't count (since I don’t know) Skoda and Cupra.
@@menestrello6159so BMW sold more in ONE month and you're saying Tesla is doomed ? 😂 Have you looked in the top selling EVs? Most of them are low budget EVs like Renault, Peugeot and Dacia
@@Twin.motors who said that Tesla is doomed? Are you able to understand a text or you write under the effect of wine? I just said that BMW sold more than Tesla in July 24, and that Tesla ‘24 sales vs ‘23 decreased. And correcting your comment: nobody “forgot to deduct BMW's plug-in's”. Quiet.
@@The._.Truth-.- I cannot follow your thoughts. This stupid battery swap idea is never going to fly. M3 better in every regard. No idea why you felt to compare against Nio EL7 in the first place....
@@The._.Truth-.- you may want to check the results from his excel list. Go to the descrption and find the folder with everything. There is an Excel list with all the test results. List in the video does not start from the top.
Best part of Norwegian motorways is they are lit up at night. For example the Norway stretch from Swedish border to Jessheim ( Yes Home 😂) is all illuminated. In Sweden, UK and most of Europe it’s mostly dark.
Impressive performance in consumption especially. But, Bjorn where BMW i40 went in this data sheet? It was somewhere at the top and now I see its missing and only the M version is there.
We have an early 2020 Model 3SR+ with the small Panasonic 50kwh Battery. In our holiday trip to Italy (600km nightride with warm weather), the trip calculator estimated mostly very wrong. And it was wrong on the bad side by 10-20%! So I thougt, the calculator in our car calculates also for the newer bigger 60kwh battery? What do you guys think and has anyone else discovered this?
23:45 You mentioned so many advantages and still you forgot about so many more like the Supercharger Network throughout Europe with ok prices (42 Cent per kWh) just plugin and it starts charging and all the Destination Chargers at Hotels and the Navigation System itself which guides you very well to every place. I am at 70.000 km in my Tesla Model 3 AWD from 2021 with a consumption of 155 Wh/km. And I am driving on German Autobahn alot
The Supercharger network itself isn't really a selling point anymore since it was opened to other cars (excluding for the 800V cars which only get half the speed, but the price is still good). But I can't say anything against the insane efficiency that Tesla provides.
@@rGunti for a Tesla it is still way simpler to find and charge the car. You don't have to fiddle with an app or a stall number. Just grab the charger and plug it into the car. It can't get any easier. Even my mother loves it
@@Twin.motors you can probably opt out of other networks. The app will prioritize superchargers anyways and only show you 3rd party if supercharger is not available.
Bjorn, another hack you can do after you used the manual pre-heating - disable additional heating of the battery during the charging session. Another split minute improvement…
I agree on the fact of the efficiency. The same for the Tesla S which I have. Still I am not happy with the S: lane change sucks, maximum cruise control at 140 and other very irritating issues from the car. My Kia EV6 is way more comfortable at driving.
@@JLetra you must be delusional to think that. There are way better EVs for roadtrips out there, Lucid Air for instance. Next year Ioniq 6 facelift with big battery and Mercedes CLA will easily beat the Model 3 and offer a more premium experience. You could throw in some chinese EVs like the Zeekr 007, which might come to Europe as a station wagon version.
It's EU la that al new chargers since April 2024 has to have card payment alternative. Later all chargers, also old, will have to have card payment alternative (I don't remember exactly when)
Can anyone share experience on how the TM3 RWD or the TMY RWD performs in Scandinavian winter weather. Both expected range, but most importantly how it copes with severe winter weather and mountain passes? I’m thinking maybe I need a 4x4 but don’t want to spend lots of money on a depreciating asset
I mean in the snow i'd have an AWD Model Y to be honest. More ground clearance, all wheel drive for looser roads. Yes it's more expensive, but the current year-model is the same as a 2022 year-model (bar the HW4 cameras), so you can just go buy a slightly older one and get 99% of the features.
But not wet roads? and the highland is charging slow at the moment at peak 170 soon they will Allow higher speed, the old m3 can do like 260 first like 15min?.. overall with same capacity it is a little better
@@andreknudsne7648 average temps of the 2021 MIC was 7c... Preheat battery, warm the car eat a lot of energie, way more the 70% wet road. She don't charge faster of 170kW... And the 2021 is accélération are faster and, i think, the front face is way beautiful.
I did a 3k trip in Europe this summer with this car. I had issues with phantombreak as well. But I noticed if you tab a bit the throttle constantly during autosteer, it will not do this anymore. It will still slowly break or speed up a bit. I also realised I almost did not use the wheel on the steer to adjust the speed and most importantly I did not have to look at speedlimit that often as the light tab kept the slightly higher speed really stable. Btw got the highland last year October and my total average is 134 wh/km.
I note the 2021 test in the SR+ got the same efficiency as the new one at 185Wh/km in colder conditions. My 2022 RWD model can charge to peak 170 charging speeds too. Do you think the 25 minute improvement in total time is almost entirely due to improvements in the charging infrastructure rather than the model refresh? It would be interesting to redo this test on the old one.
Hey Bjorn, what settings do you have in ABRP to match real-life estimations? I have it on my Kona, but it never even goes close to what I estimate, based on your kind of calculations. It's always way off.
model y refresh is coming, so that will at least deal with the hatchback thing. if you really want a stalk and a HUD, the aftermarket profits accessories for that, and they're pretty good (including adding the stalk back in )
Than you fore a great test and video. Just wonder, how would this rund look at normal hours, like between 8 am and 10 pm, during summer holiday season? Including a driver that is not ninja :) one hrs extra or more?
Sorry if this seems nitpicky... but i just wanted to say that the wh/km would be higher if the charging strategy would be different... charging less often and choosing chargers closer to the highway would mean more km at highway speeds... i think that would be more relevant to real world use
Real world use for who? I just went back from a 3.200 km trip in france and it was not 100% highway. I don't think anyone who use the car in a "real world use" like tourism or work will do 100% highway
Real world use for who? I travel from Latvia to Croatia (2100km) and back pretty often and I choose to drive fast and charge more often at preferrably Tesla chargers (and other trustworthy networks) which are not always right by highway. Not that I have ever found it important since I am tired and want to stop, doesn't matter if off from highway. edit: I want to add, what's unrealistic about these tests is actually achieving the hours Bjorn achieves because in real life there are road constructions, traffic jams and you have needs (pee, food, rest) so getting hours Bjorn gets are in ideal circumstances to begin with.
How much lower will the range be, for example, when it is -14 Celsius or even worse -30 Celsius? . And how much does it affect the charging speed when it's cold
I wondered why the car wasn't nagging about distracted driving (it does that to me when I'm fully focused on the road, especially at night). Now I know. 🤫
So the outdated 400v tesla model 3 got over 180 miles of driving range back in just 18mins. Then it did 1000+kms in 9hrs 28mins, and used less than 6 gallons of gas in energy to cover 600+miles at hwy speeds. Damn no wonder it's still the world's 2nd best ever selling ev made. Oh yeah it's from an American company to! 👍🏻😎
There is nothing outdated on actual Model 3.. it is masterpiece of current used battery chemistry and available technology. There is neglegible disadvantage in comparison to 800V architecture..
@@jurajkravec1766 agreed, my post was intended as sarcasm for the teslaq&elon tds syndrome sufferers. 👍🏻😀 Imagine if elon bragged endlessly like rawlinson about how the 2020&2021 nmc sr model 3s actually got over 5miles pkwh epa. 😏 Or if they added 800v architecture like the ct has, castings a structural pack, some lighter even more efficient tires to a cloth seats cheaper 32k model 3 next year and got 5.5miles per kwh out of it! I mean the ct dual motor with 35" as tires is already touching 90-100mpge real world!
Legacy brands throw batteries at their cars to solve the range problem and then they tell people theirs are better. Tesla increases efficiency to the point that a Model Y has better efficiency than a Smart fortwo electric
@@4literv6 You compare it to 800V EVs with small battery and/or with not ideal charging speeds, even if it was sarcastic it is still wrong. An 800V EV with let's say a 90kWh battery, which is an average number of what you get as the big battery options in a lot of 800V EVs nowadays (The facelifted Ioniq 5/6 have 84kWh battery, but others have 96kWh or more so 90kWh is a conservative middle ground), then 800V makes a huge difference. You simply can't charge a 90kWh battery quickly with 400V unless you raise amp to an unholy level. With a standard 400V charger which can deliver something like 205kW max you would charge only with under 2.28C. So you would charge dog slow, something like 10-80% in a bit over 26min. With Teslas 400V chargers you could get 250kW or under 2.78C with a 90kWh battery, which results in just under 22min. With 800V-1000V system you ideally should not be charger limited anymore and even a modest 3.2C 90kWh battery, 3.2C is what the 800V 77kWh E-GMP platform EVs from Hyundai/KIA have, would demand 288kW already from the charger with this 90kWh battery size and could still charge in 19min from 10-80%. 19min (800V) vs 22min (Tesla) vs 26min (Standard 400V) for 90kWh battery with 3.2C. If you take a 100kWh battery with 3.2C the difference widens to 19min vs 24min vs 29min, so at least a 5min difference every charging stop already. So this is the first part - bigger batteries require 800V: Not only can you charge way faster with 800V vs 400V with a big battery, but generally you can also drive further so you need less charging stops altogether. And here comes the second part - even faster charging speeds: If you use 4C, the standard in a lot of chinese premium mid-size EVs nowadays, the 90kWh battery could take in 360kW of power and could charge in around 15min from 10-80%. A 100kWh battery at 4C would need 400kW, at 5C, which is around 10-80% in 12min it would require 500kW, double the power the Tesla chargers can provide and half the time (12 min vs 24min)! So now you already save 12min every single charging stop both vehicles have to take + again the general advantage of big batteries to take less charging stops overall compared to smaller batteries. The differences will be huge on a 1000km roadtrip and in just a 2-3 years there is a good chance that only 800V EVs will make the top 10 list. So yes, for premium mid-size or executive EVs 400V is outdated. For cost effective EVs it is okay as long as they are efficient and have a very stable charging curve. The ID.7 slightly beat the Model 3 btw, and that was just the smaller battery. BMW i4 edrive 40´also beats Model 3. The old Ioniq 6 has the same time as the new model 3 but in winter conditions! The Ioniq 6 will get a facelift in early 2025 and then gains access to the bigger 84kWh battery, with this battery and in summer condtions the gap will be much wider. And as I mentioned above, the Ioniq 6 is still not ideal in terms of battery size and charging speed.
@@Aztasu looks at the plaid 100kwh gross, 94-95kwh net 400v pack getting 184 miles back in 15mins by inside evs in 2022. Go away seriously. You have issues I am not interested in!🤚😂
I have M3 Highland exactly one year old with 17000km and my battery degradation went from inicial 437km to 412km of range in one year... Is that normal?
I have a 2022 M3RWD with 25,000KM. Average is 122 Wh/km. 80% highway driving. The efficiency is amazing!
For comparison, my e-Up (a 500 kg lighter car with 200 less HP) would do around 130-160 Wh/km on highway depending on weather. The efficiency of the Model 3 is not only amazing, it seems nearly impossible!
Average speed? But seems nice
My M3 RWD lifetime average over the total 145.000km is 144Wh/km, and I rarely drive above the speed limit. I aslo start the car in a warm garage each time. 122 seems unlikely, or would indicate an extremely low average speed.
@@thomaskoninger5841 Most of our highways are 100. I typically sit around 103. There is no doubt as you push above 106 you can see a noticeable difference in consumption. So countries with lots of 110 or higher roads will no doubt see higher consumption.
Not at 130 km/h average
Picking up my RWD highland on Wednesday, it'll be my first EV. Slightly apprehensive but excited! Good to see it's so efficient
I have mine for 2 months now. I came from a bmw 530e. Love the Tesla, i was amazed by the build quality of it
@@thomasschoovaerts8385how long did you have the BMW?
Congrats!
@@JLetra i bought it in 2020 and sold it in 2023
@@thomasschoovaerts8385thank you for info and help. 👍
I absolutely love my RWD Highland. Combined highway and city driving gives me 120 Wh/km over 6.500 km. I'm blown away - this efficiency is truly mind blowing.
I am at 123wh/km at nearly 7.000 km with a 2021 facelift model 3 long range. And I have the Pilot Sport tyre not even the e-primacy. Planning to get the e-primacy next year to further reduce consumption.
I dont have an ev but everytime i see ur videos i feel like going on a roadtrip😂
I have mine for 2 months now, coming from a 2020 BMW 530e.
I was amazed by the build quality of it.
Love that car
@@thomasschoovaerts8385 how long did you have the BMW 530e ?
@@JLetra from 2020 you can take a guess
A lot of people comes from BMW to TESLA :D (me included)
I love my model 3 rwd highland. Already drove 26000km and two big trips to Spain from the Netherlands. ❤
2023 RWD, 2000km trip at 130 / 120 kmh in France and Spain motorways with 20/21 AC gave me 150 w/km average. The car is brilliant.
We drive a model S 2017 weight 2000 kg but over 35000 km just 16.5/100 free supercharging HEPA steel roof/🥂 amazing car!!
Efficient too.
Can't wait to get mine next month!
Nice to watch a video from my hoods. I was born in Spekeröd a long time ago. Got the same car as you tested but ultra red. Very satisfied with it.
Getting my M3 RWD next week!
Very good video. Im going for a highland next week. Coming from 5+ Mercedes and 2 Lexus. All the new Mercedes I've had since 2015 have been rubbish and noticeably cheaper built by the year. I road tested a highland and was very impressed. The i5 I tested was also quite nice. Later MB
I am happy owner of TM3 SR (RWD) Highland. Almost perfect car! :) Thank you for awesome vid, Bjorn.
7kW onboard is wild, in the UK we can only order the scenic with 22kW onboard despite almost all homes in the UK only having single phase. Its one of the reasons i went for a megane, it offers 22kW which is not that common for a UK model due to the absence of domestic 3 phase. Its still good to have though when you're charging away from home. Great video again 👍
I wish I could get premium sound and LFP. It’s like not wanting a 6.8 inch phone but forced to for the top tier camera/chipset etc. I don’t want speed I want efficiency!
Nothing an audio shop can't fix. It's actually quite cheap to upgrade
As an audiophile: leave the LR's 'premium' audio. Yes it can go loud but the clarity and balance is quite bad, probably from all the DSP needed to sync so many speakers. Get the standard system and put in another amp and add a sub. The standard drivers seem up to the job.
@katchaontheflipside I would think that the audio quality is so bad in a car that an audiophile did not care? 😊
@@katchaontheflipside the LRs audio gets top ratings everywhere
@@jsjs6751 I still need to listen to music while driving! XD
Look at 18:17. TripB: 297KWH/1955KM, 1000KM challenge: 184KWH/1004KM. So 951Km before the 1000km challenge consumed 297-184= 113KWH/951Km ~ 118.8W/Km ~ 8.4Km/KWH 😊
My consumption is 9.7 kWh on 4,028 kilometers driven so far. Later, after 365 days, I will probably be at 11-12 kWh for a whole calendar year, Tesla Model 3 Highland rear-wheel drive, 65% on the highway.
Lol, using a door handle as a custom configured button to unlock a charge port 20:46
Those third-party devices like S3XY button having access to internal electronics are nice to have.
GJ thanks for all those reviews and test! I wait all those years for a proper ev, probably I will buy the new 2025 MY
Now we need a 1k km challenge for the LR RWD!
Thanks for every video .. I enjoy watching every video so much. 🥰
Now you should retest the LR Highland in this weather, the last test of it was in very very cold conditions.
I agree with the positive conclusion, including the 3 negative points. Naggy camera that works best when being blocked, phantom brake and no stalk for turning signals :-). It seems these days to break every time you meet a truck on a normal road, new annoying "feature".
But Bjorn what is your opinion on several quite annoying things or features that are very common nowadays in other cars auch as fogs lights, massage seats, Android Auto/Apple Carplay, 360 angle/bird view camera, instrument cluster for the driver? I didn't mention the obvious ones that you've already talked about. The above things are not "an optimisation" but rather cutting cost decisions masked as minimalism or something.
Massage seats are very common ? They're optional extras even on S class and 7 series. The "massage seats" on cheaper lower end cars is mostly the lumbar support going in and out, not actual massage.
Android auto/ carplay is not needed In Tesla's due to their amazing software.
The 360 camera is already here.. Tesla does that but it does it so,so,so much better than the camera based version where they show you a horrible stitch of 360 cameras. Tesla recreates the world around you like in a game and makes it look 3d. Even if you use the 360cam in a rolls Royce you'll see how bad the quality is
@@Twin.motors almost all recently produced Chinese cars have massage seats with surprisingly high quality and they are direct competitor to the Tesla. My former car Tiguan 2018 has a massage seats. If you talking about options: there is no such option in Tesla, right?
The software in Tesla is the best but missing Android Auto/Apple Carplay nowadays means you are missing Waze,.which is very famous in Europe and I'd say essential for safety and comfort. Moreover you don't have convenient access to Android/iOS ecosystem which is a great flaw.
The topic of cameras in Tesla is very controversial cause lack of lider or similar technologies. Relying only on cameras is not optimal in fog, rainy and dark conditions.
Let me add another annoying thing then :) - the reflection of the ambient lights on the dashboard over the front windscreen. In some situations it is very annoying being in your eye-sight.
Fog lights: I never use them
Android auto: Nver use it because I want preheating before fast charging (needs to navigate with car). And Tesla's Spotify, etc is very good. AA is needed in cars with shitty infotainment
360 camera: Yes, I miss it in Tesla
Instrument cluster: Having everything in one big screen is better and safer. No need to move your eyes between two screens in your dash.
@@bjornnylandhva med blinklys/viskere? Model 3 virker som en super bil, med unntak av kontroll av lys/viskere.
So happy to hear this after 2 months owning a Highland. The consupmtion you are refering to as incredible I would say is still quite high in that car. So far 130 Wh/km after 4000 km where 1000 km of those actually happen to be on the same route as you took in this video. The low consumption and small battery really means awesome A to B times. A small battery with a flat curve with low consumption is so much more worth than a 250 kW charging peak. Big cars with big batteries and high consumptions are the worst (eg. Hongqi), both economically and timewise.
It’s a really beautiful car in my eyes.
my 21 SR+ self reports 162wh/km over the last 25.000 km, with mostly short town trips, and longer highway at 110kmh like once every other month.
Great car! Can't wait to see the new Model Y😊
amazing result
I think I should expect very similar results in my 2023 RWD. Pretty sure it has same battery and drivetrain as highland. Just updated tech/interior and styling
Well according to his own data, the older model is about 20 mins slower
It's not a perfect test to compare. 2 completely different days with different climates and road conditions, not to mention he had issues where he forgot to preheat the battery for faster charging. Most of his charging sessions if not all were less than 150kw on the old video from what I remember seeing.
Hi. Based on your previous and other videos, I was under the impression that LFP batteries don't mind staying at 100% SOC. But I recently watched an episode of engineering explained on TH-cam that explained that they also degrade at higher SOCs. You should watch it if you haven't already ;)
yeah, basically the TL;DR with LFPs is to just treat 'em like a gas car. Drive them until say, 20% and top-balance them once a week.
Super quality video!
355,6kkr wtf? Here in Czechia it costs 500kkr considering current exchange rate.
Hustý!
Oh my ...
Norway don't have any sales tax on EV's that cost under 500k NOK.
yea... its Norway,
@@Danne89 No 25% VAT is indeed a huge discount! This means you can buy this car in Norway for about EUR 30K whereas this car costs around EUR 42k here in Europe (depending on the VAT percentage of the EU country).
Another very interesting video I just watched 🤔 ( Tow Charging at 70 MPH for 25 minutes ) in the UK we used to flat tow a car with a special solid Bar ie not a dangerous rope or strap. So if you was towed by a recovery vehicle at let’s say 60 MPH it wouldn’t take long before you could continue your journey. Ssssshhhhiiiitttt 🥷🏻 Very interesting stuff
A test that myself and many others would like to see, it pops up often, is a test where you compare consumption on a Tesla M3 with standard 18" versus 19" or 20" You often read other people's results, but there are too many unknown factors in what people write, you also did a test at one point, but the test was with different tires, so it also does not give a correct picture of how big a difference there is in rim sizes
I drove basically the same route (in reverse... Copenhagen - Trondheim) in a 2024 Model Y with the same CATL battery. It is marginally worse only. (The test you made for the Y rwd is at colder temperature which increases the consumption.)
Yes these are fully capable of long distance driving - for families it is the car waiting for the passengers not the other way around.
(and Indo have a 3 LR awd as well - but for holiday a SUV is better).
Having done about 5 long family trips in our CATL Model Y in Europe, it's 9 out of 10 stops the car that is ready to go before us. I'm sure we may save about 10 minutes on a long trip with a gas car, but not much more than that. sometimes I save time with hotels that have charging which means one less stop to find gas ... Very happy with our choice and have really enjoyed it.
@@TheChainStay Same story here since I got my Ioniq 5. This beast charges so fast that whenever we go for a pee break, usually the car is reporting 80% back before we return to the car. You don't need a huge battery, the charging speed is a lot more important.
Tesla just watched this video and brought back the referral program! :D
Only in US as far as I can see
Thanks Bjørn. That was impressive efficiency and 1000 km time! As you point out at the end, Model 3 has an impressive list of standard equipment as well. It is a lot of car for the money. I can't imagine why anyone buys new fossil cars.
so why in your opinion Tesla has ca. 15% of the BEV market share only? And its sales 2024 vs 2023 are slightly decreasing? In July 2024 in Europe BMW sold more BEV cars than Tesla. And the MEB’s are constantly selling more than Tesla in Europe. Strange.
yet I see more Tesla (white, RWD, 60kWh) then BMW and VW combined....guess someone forgot to deduct BMW's plug-in's in there math ;)
@@ALCLCFVIS I am talking about numbers: BEVs sold in July in Europe. Not about what you see around your home 🤣BMW sold 14,869 BEVs, Tesla 14,561. Audi and VW together 20,831so much more than Tesla. And I don't count (since I don’t know) Skoda and Cupra.
@@menestrello6159so BMW sold more in ONE month and you're saying Tesla is doomed ? 😂
Have you looked in the top selling EVs? Most of them are low budget EVs like Renault, Peugeot and Dacia
@@Twin.motors who said that Tesla is doomed? Are you able to understand a text or you write under the effect of wine? I just said that BMW sold more than Tesla in July 24, and that Tesla ‘24 sales vs ‘23 decreased. And correcting your comment: nobody “forgot to deduct BMW's plug-in's”. Quiet.
Maybe in Norway this is cheap car, but the same car, no added options in Slovenia is 41.5k€ or 490k Nok
there is no Tax for EVs in Norway.
41.9K in Italy. It was 40.5K just a few months ago, then EU highered import taxes on EV from china.
@@markusmuller9193ah, I see. Thanks!
43.5k in NL 😢
And how much are other EV's. Its probably as cheap in comparison?
Have the 2023 M3RWD and have similar consumption before charge losses. Still best car for money.
Tesla referral program is back here in the US as of today! Hopefully it’ll be back soon there as well.
22:10 Nio EL7 2x battery swap still slower than charging even with the bigger battery. 🤔
You are comparing a 5m SUV against a much smaller Sedan?
The smaller ET5 was 35 min quicker (@colder conditions) compared to M3.
Why are you so defensive?
@@The._.Truth-.- I cannot follow your thoughts. This stupid battery swap idea is never going to fly. M3 better in every regard. No idea why you felt to compare against Nio EL7 in the first place....
It wasn’t me. Bjorn put them in the chart. Isn’t it for comparison?
@@The._.Truth-.- you may want to check the results from his excel list. Go to the descrption and find the folder with everything. There is an Excel list with all the test results. List in the video does not start from the top.
Does the car phantom brake, if you only use the cruise control instead of the autopilot?
Wouldnt 5% overreporting a 50 km extra distance instead of 5? Or is the overreporting 0.5%?
Thought the same, interesting to hear the answer 🙂
Yeah that is right. That is why the time is so low 🙀
Brainfart. I meant to say 0.5 %. No car has 5 % error. The highest reported was I-Pace with 2.7 %.
9:58 definitely rubbish roads here in UK. Your roads in Norway are much better than here.
Best part of Norwegian motorways is they are lit up at night. For example the Norway stretch from Swedish border to Jessheim ( Yes Home 😂) is all illuminated. In Sweden, UK and most of Europe it’s mostly dark.
@@thomasj1148 and rubbish surface in UK. And when they repair them, they do a rubbish job and last few months only.
*Sweden
@@bjornnyland true. But also the Norwegian roads I’ve experienced this summer are far better than UK ones…
Just payed for mine before watching this video.. Looking forward to getting it :) Thank you for the video Bjørn Du gjør en knallbra jobb :)
I love my tesla model 3 highland, buyed june 2024.
12.548 driven until now, 141kw/h
Impressive performance in consumption especially. But, Bjorn where BMW i40 went in this data sheet? It was somewhere at the top and now I see its missing and only the M version is there.
List is too big. Check video description of Google sheet insteadl
@@bjornnyland Thanks and success!
Long waiting for this incredible test in the most efficient EV. Thank you for your amazing honest work.
What about Lucid Air 1000km? There is atleast a showroom in Oslo. Can't be impossible to find one?
I asked them and they still don't have a press car for me to test.
@@bjornnyland thank you Bjorn for updating us! Hoping for a car soon!😊
We have an early 2020 Model 3SR+ with the small Panasonic 50kwh Battery. In our holiday trip to Italy (600km nightride with warm weather), the trip calculator estimated mostly very wrong. And it was wrong on the bad side by 10-20%! So I thougt, the calculator in our car calculates also for the newer bigger 60kwh battery? What do you guys think and has anyone else discovered this?
23:45 You mentioned so many advantages and still you forgot about so many more like the Supercharger Network throughout Europe with ok prices (42 Cent per kWh) just plugin and it starts charging and all the Destination Chargers at Hotels and the Navigation System itself which guides you very well to every place.
I am at 70.000 km in my Tesla Model 3 AWD from 2021 with a consumption of 155 Wh/km. And I am driving on German Autobahn alot
The Supercharger network itself isn't really a selling point anymore since it was opened to other cars (excluding for the 800V cars which only get half the speed, but the price is still good). But I can't say anything against the insane efficiency that Tesla provides.
@@rGunti for a Tesla it is still way simpler to find and charge the car. You don't have to fiddle with an app or a stall number. Just grab the charger and plug it into the car. It can't get any easier. Even my mother loves it
@@awmmuc Circle K got plug&charge, works just as well.
@@Colt16v longer handshake and no button on the plug - close but still not quite as comfortable
@@Zedus-rl9hp button on the plug? Why would you need that?
14:13 so now it's time for another pickup, did you mean the tesla Cybertruck 😂
It’s time for Tesla to integrate third-party networks in its route planning system
It is already, at least i my TM3 here in Norway.
It can, it just prioritizes superchargers
I hope not. The Tesla supercharger network is much better, we don't want to lower it's quality with non Tesla chargers
@@Twin.motors you can probably opt out of other networks. The app will prioritize superchargers anyways and only show you 3rd party if supercharger is not available.
no It's not. We (Tesla owners) don't want to charge anywhere else! 🙂
We are waiting for your 1000km challenge on new tesla model 3 RWD LR highland.
Best car for the money ⚡️
Bjorn, another hack you can do after you used the manual pre-heating - disable additional heating of the battery during the charging session. Another split minute improvement…
I have been doing that for years. Another hack is to pay attention to when inlet drops. Then you turn on HVAC when it's cold outside.
@@bjornnyland do you open service mode to disable heating of the battery during charging?
Funily enough Tesla started another referral program, I saw some posts about it yesterday. Not sure if US only though.
Only in US as far as I can see
I agree on the fact of the efficiency. The same for the Tesla S which I have. Still I am not happy with the S: lane change sucks, maximum cruise control at 140 and other very irritating issues from the car. My Kia EV6 is way more comfortable at driving.
Max speed on cruise control is 150. Max speed with autopilot is 140
I think also thats is the best car for longe range trips in this price range.
In other price range which be the best one? (Long trips) is this the best period.
@@JLetra nah, you must be totally delusional to think that
@@JLetra you must be delusional to think that. There are way better EVs for roadtrips out there, Lucid Air for instance. Next year Ioniq 6 facelift with big battery and Mercedes CLA will easily beat the Model 3 and offer a more premium experience. You could throw in some chinese EVs like the Zeekr 007, which might come to Europe as a station wagon version.
@@Bern-z6u Thank you for the clarification. Didn't knew also the Rolls Royce Spectre (bev). 😊
It's EU la that al new chargers since April 2024 has to have card payment alternative.
Later all chargers, also old, will have to have card payment alternative (I don't remember exactly when)
Can anyone share experience on how the TM3 RWD or the TMY RWD performs in Scandinavian winter weather. Both expected range, but most importantly how it copes with severe winter weather and mountain passes?
I’m thinking maybe I need a 4x4 but don’t want to spend lots of money on a depreciating asset
I mean in the snow i'd have an AWD Model Y to be honest. More ground clearance, all wheel drive for looser roads. Yes it's more expensive, but the current year-model is the same as a 2022 year-model (bar the HW4 cameras), so you can just go buy a slightly older one and get 99% of the features.
I agree. Tesla should pay you for this
And a long range RWD ?
Tesla Björn ❤ This car is so much bang for bucks, legacy auto go home
The 2021 mic with 20c température made the same time...😅
I think this car is cheaper, then your car new... But old car is still amazing good
But not wet roads? and the highland is charging slow at the moment at peak 170 soon they will Allow higher speed, the old m3 can do like 260 first like 15min?.. overall with same capacity it is a little better
@@andreknudsne7648 average temps of the 2021 MIC was 7c... Preheat battery, warm the car eat a lot of energie, way more the 70% wet road.
She don't charge faster of 170kW...
And the 2021 is accélération are faster and, i think, the front face is way beautiful.
@@andreknudsne7648no the LFP Tesla never charged at 250kW peak. Only the NMC battery in the LR and M3P. So this is very good
Incorrect. That run was 9h 55min and this run was 9h 30min
Good car!
Still very poor autopilot :(
Referal apparently is back just now haha.
I did a 3k trip in Europe this summer with this car. I had issues with phantombreak as well. But I noticed if you tab a bit the throttle constantly during autosteer, it will not do this anymore. It will still slowly break or speed up a bit. I also realised I almost did not use the wheel on the steer to adjust the speed and most importantly I did not have to look at speedlimit that often as the light tab kept the slightly higher speed really stable.
Btw got the highland last year October and my total average is 134 wh/km.
So should I go for SR over LR and save a couple of bucks?
If the SR covers your normal daily drives absolutely yes
Wow didn’t knew the rear door trick to stop charging
Works only with Sexy buttons commander installed.
If I block the camera it will eventually say on the screen that camera is obscured and autopilot wont be avaliable. Any workaround for that :B?
Do EVs have noise cancelling features to limit road noise?
Model S/X does.
th-cam.com/video/r6BhufJxD1Q/w-d-xo.html
I note the 2021 test in the SR+ got the same efficiency as the new one at 185Wh/km in colder conditions. My 2022 RWD model can charge to peak 170 charging speeds too. Do you think the 25 minute improvement in total time is almost entirely due to improvements in the charging infrastructure rather than the model refresh? It would be interesting to redo this test on the old one.
Yes
My Model 3 LR 2024 is very efficient, but the missing stalks means SO BAD control of everything! Including high beams, cruise control and wipers 😢
You can get aftermarket stalls installed now.
Hey Bjorn, what settings do you have in ABRP to match real-life estimations?
I have it on my Kona, but it never even goes close to what I estimate, based on your kind of calculations. It's always way off.
Please do new M3P LG battery one if you haven't!
model y refresh is coming, so that will at least deal with the hatchback thing. if you really want a stalk and a HUD, the aftermarket profits accessories for that, and they're pretty good (including adding the stalk back in )
maybe it's time to redo / update the challenge for used SR+ from 2021/2022, many of is are on market looking for second hand one. 🤔
Do you recommend it over AWD LR?
The long range model probably has even faster charging on paper in any case
Any inside information about the launch of the LR RWD version in Europe?
Than you fore a great test and video. Just wonder, how would this rund look at normal hours, like between 8 am and 10 pm, during summer holiday season? Including a driver that is not ninja :) one hrs extra or more?
Anyone here who has a Rear wheel drive tesla in Norway. Would you recommend it? Or is the 4 Wheel drive needed for winter?
Super awesome
Sorry if this seems nitpicky... but i just wanted to say that the wh/km would be higher if the charging strategy would be different... charging less often and choosing chargers closer to the highway would mean more km at highway speeds... i think that would be more relevant to real world use
Real world use for who? I just went back from a 3.200 km trip in france and it was not 100% highway.
I don't think anyone who use the car in a "real world use" like tourism or work will do 100% highway
Real world use for who? I travel from Latvia to Croatia (2100km) and back pretty often and I choose to drive fast and charge more often at preferrably Tesla chargers (and other trustworthy networks) which are not always right by highway. Not that I have ever found it important since I am tired and want to stop, doesn't matter if off from highway.
edit: I want to add, what's unrealistic about these tests is actually achieving the hours Bjorn achieves because in real life there are road constructions, traffic jams and you have needs (pee, food, rest) so getting hours Bjorn gets are in ideal circumstances to begin with.
Consumption would be lower then. Less charging stops = less energy burned for preheating every time.
Hello guys.What do you think about the sound system in RWD than an AWD?Because sincerily i think RWD is enought for travelling long trips too.
AWD sound system is definitely better. More bass for sure. But the RWD is still really good.
If the car overreports 5% don‘t you have to add 50 km to 1000? :) Would it not be 5 km added to 100 km?
Brainfart. It was 0.5 %
How much lower will the range be, for example, when it is -14 Celsius or even worse -30 Celsius? . And how much does it affect the charging speed when it's cold
S3XY Button aftermarket stalks will be available soon, to enable easy signaling for roundabout exits. Maybe they already are available.
I wondered why the car wasn't nagging about distracted driving (it does that to me when I'm fully focused on the road, especially at night).
Now I know. 🤫
So the outdated 400v tesla model 3 got over 180 miles of driving range back in just 18mins.
Then it did 1000+kms in 9hrs 28mins, and used less than 6 gallons of gas in energy to cover 600+miles at hwy speeds.
Damn no wonder it's still the world's 2nd best ever selling ev made. Oh yeah it's from an American company to! 👍🏻😎
There is nothing outdated on actual Model 3.. it is masterpiece of current used battery chemistry and available technology. There is neglegible disadvantage in comparison to 800V architecture..
@@jurajkravec1766 agreed, my post was intended as sarcasm for the teslaq&elon tds syndrome sufferers. 👍🏻😀
Imagine if elon bragged endlessly like rawlinson about how the 2020&2021 nmc sr model 3s actually got over 5miles pkwh epa. 😏
Or if they added 800v architecture like the ct has, castings a structural pack, some lighter even more efficient tires to a cloth seats cheaper 32k model 3 next year and got 5.5miles per kwh out of it! I mean the ct dual motor with 35" as tires is already touching 90-100mpge real world!
Legacy brands throw batteries at their cars to solve the range problem and then they tell people theirs are better. Tesla increases efficiency to the point that a Model Y has better efficiency than a Smart fortwo electric
@@4literv6 You compare it to 800V EVs with small battery and/or with not ideal charging speeds, even if it was sarcastic it is still wrong.
An 800V EV with let's say a 90kWh battery, which is an average number of what you get as the big battery options in a lot of 800V EVs nowadays (The facelifted Ioniq 5/6 have 84kWh battery, but others have 96kWh or more so 90kWh is a conservative middle ground), then 800V makes a huge difference. You simply can't charge a 90kWh battery quickly with 400V unless you raise amp to an unholy level. With a standard 400V charger which can deliver something like 205kW max you would charge only with under 2.28C. So you would charge dog slow, something like 10-80% in a bit over 26min. With Teslas 400V chargers you could get 250kW or under 2.78C with a 90kWh battery, which results in just under 22min.
With 800V-1000V system you ideally should not be charger limited anymore and even a modest 3.2C 90kWh battery, 3.2C is what the 800V 77kWh E-GMP platform EVs from Hyundai/KIA have, would demand 288kW already from the charger with this 90kWh battery size and could still charge in 19min from 10-80%. 19min (800V) vs 22min (Tesla) vs 26min (Standard 400V) for 90kWh battery with 3.2C. If you take a 100kWh battery with 3.2C the difference widens to 19min vs 24min vs 29min, so at least a 5min difference every charging stop already.
So this is the first part - bigger batteries require 800V: Not only can you charge way faster with 800V vs 400V with a big battery, but generally you can also drive further so you need less charging stops altogether.
And here comes the second part - even faster charging speeds:
If you use 4C, the standard in a lot of chinese premium mid-size EVs nowadays, the 90kWh battery could take in 360kW of power and could charge in around 15min from 10-80%. A 100kWh battery at 4C would need 400kW, at 5C, which is around 10-80% in 12min it would require 500kW, double the power the Tesla chargers can provide and half the time (12 min vs 24min)! So now you already save 12min every single charging stop both vehicles have to take + again the general advantage of big batteries to take less charging stops overall compared to smaller batteries.
The differences will be huge on a 1000km roadtrip and in just a 2-3 years there is a good chance that only 800V EVs will make the top 10 list. So yes, for premium mid-size or executive EVs 400V is outdated. For cost effective EVs it is okay as long as they are efficient and have a very stable charging curve. The ID.7 slightly beat the Model 3 btw, and that was just the smaller battery. BMW i4 edrive 40´also beats Model 3. The old Ioniq 6 has the same time as the new model 3 but in winter conditions! The Ioniq 6 will get a facelift in early 2025 and then gains access to the bigger 84kWh battery, with this battery and in summer condtions the gap will be much wider. And as I mentioned above, the Ioniq 6 is still not ideal in terms of battery size and charging speed.
@@Aztasu looks at the plaid 100kwh gross, 94-95kwh net 400v pack getting 184 miles back in 15mins by inside evs in 2022.
Go away seriously. You have issues I am not interested in!🤚😂
I hope you get to test the facelift EV6 with the bigger battery!
It has a bigger battery?
@@bjornnyland yes, 84kwh but I've not seen a charging curve yet
Model 3 is so much smaller than most of the other cars on top of the ranking. And temperature was ideal.
Still not bad.
Even so, the efficiency was much much better than the "competition"
Temp was ideal but wet roads were not.
Model 3 can take 19 banana boxes. Very impressive. Just one less than a Jaguar I-Pace and Mercedes EQC.
Need some Model Y LR AWD love to....Please Bjørn :)
Tesla App for iOS adds a shortcut for preheating the battery 👍
Where?
Don’t see it
@@Zedorek on your iPhone search for „shortcuts“, then search for „tesla“ and find a shortcut „Start Preconditioning Tesla“
@@Zedorek in iOS search for „Shortcuts“, then search for „Tesla“. Find a shortcut named „Start Preconditioning Tesla“
I wonder does that shortcut control departure pre-conditioning, rather than for charging? Easy to test I guess 👍
Is the m3 highland with dual motor and the larger battery rangewise not ahead? Am just curious :)
took me 2 or 3 days to adapt to the steering whell blinkers, since then i dont miss any stalks
Until you try to blink correctly in a roundabout.
@@bjornnyland unbelievable, but after 2 tries you also master this mystery
I have M3 Highland exactly one year old with 17000km and my battery degradation went from inicial 437km to 412km of range in one year... Is that normal?