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I love suits, but I have never got over how the characters look at legal documents for two seconds and already are able to make insightful observations about its content.
Someone commented what could be a logical explanation: most of those documents has words or arguments highlighted. If some document is constructed in a way, most lawyers would know which way the document would go.
OBJECTION! Your Honor, he is Harvey Specter, we all know HE can do that. Oh, yes, and Mike Ross, let's not forget, Mike. Ok, ok, ALL of them, but only them, and only because they have been awesome and have helped us to have such a good time and so many hours, mmm...well, weeks, months, years...having so much fun with these guys! So, for law students everywhere, please, just don't do that. Just don't. Will you lose your license if you copycat these guys moves? Yes, of course, you definitely will. So, just don't and let everybody else "non lawyer people", like me, enjoy this great show. Thank you.
The whole series is based on Harvey not viewing society's or the legal profession's ethical code as important if it doesn't tally with what he views as the right thing to do at any time. Suits plots are all predicated on the idea that the firm gets results by breaking rules and not getting caught. They then have to break more rules to avoid getting exposed. They value loyalty above ethics so the hole gets dug deeper. This is literally the entire series with some emotional drama and sex thrown in for entertainment value. I've seen lawyers who sail close to the wind but I've yet to meet a Harvey. The idea that the management of that firm would collude with all this shady shit is dumb.
As someone who has watched the whole show, it’s quite interesting to see you sort of predict and explain the exact things that would very much soon become a major issue for the characters and essentially - the driving points of the show.
Well I am not a lawyer, but I understood how unrealistic everything is and predicted the same 10 minutes into this show. It’s just common sense if you have seen enough and done enough in the corporate world.
Every event that occurs in this show wouldn’t work in the real world whatsoever. But obviously the entertainment of the show is how they do these things even though they’re genuinely not remotely possible in the real world. Even something that could have been possible like hiring Mike as a paralegal, have him go to school and eventually pass the bar, probably wouldn’t work. His history of academic fraud and taking LSATs for people for money for example would already have made it really hard to be admitted to the bar. Granted if he was hired as a paralegal to work through school by the time he was done he’d have years of ethical behavior to demonstrate to make s good argument for why he should qualify for the state bar now so it’s possible there. But I cannot overstate that every single event of this show is not even close to possible.
I taught LSAT for years and even owned an LSAT prep service before I actually went to law school. I cannot tell you how many times I was offered money to take the LSAT for someone (and it was almost always the parents offering, not the student, and the standard offer was $25K, in 2001-2004). So it's kind of absurd that Mike is doing it for a couple hundred bucks. But I always thought that when the guy tried to stiff Mike and says "Call the cops," Mike's proper response would have been, "Cops? No, I'll call LSAC, and your law career will be over before you even go to law school. After all, YOU want to go to law school. I don't. So LSAC can't do anything to me. They can and will end you." Or something like that.
@@spencerpencer Possibly, but if people knew it was because the guy got the score and refused to pay, it would probably just increase his chances of being paid in full in the future.
I assume Mike sat the exam for the other guy? What I don’t understand how the exam supervisor picked up that Mike was a cheater. Why did he put his paper in the middle of the pile? Do the students have to show ID when they hand the paper in?
@@jamesk479 It undoubtedly was . . . but while I would have happily reported the parents, I did not want to cause trouble for the students (most of whom apparently did not even know their parents were attempting such chicanery). I just told the parents that if their kid took my course and applied himself/herself, the result would be the same without the risk and at much less expense.
The fact is that that firm defrauded their clients with every single interaction regarding Mike. Not that they weren’t already engaging in fraud beforehand.
@@ArnulfoSalgadobut t to be a lawyer you have to pass the bar so he is a lawyer and cannot practice the law which is super fraudulent and Harvey knew about it the entire time which is even more fraudulent
Lol I know right. He was mostly pointing out the obvious things that they did to entertain audiences. I really thought he would point out things we didn’t know
One thing i can always count on about Suits is that whenever someone is about to leave a room, they always stop at the door and look back to say one more comment before leaving 😂
Or leave thinking they won the argument, leaving a quippy comment, just to find out later it fell through and the lawsuit continues. I’m always screaming “wait until it’s signed before you leave the room!”
@@jenniferkelley5473 Or how always someone appears magically at the door to listen to some conversation or to participate in it just at the right time. The offices are all made of glass but no one ever see them coming lol.
I always thought about this, and loved the image of each character hiding behind a wall eavesdropping for the exact right moment to enter...@@jesusgarciacruz9059
I watched the entire 8 seasons on Netflix in about 2 weeks thinking that was everything. Turns out there's a season 9 on something I don't have. Not worth paying for. I lost interest really when Mike and Rachel left and though he comes back for the end it's just not the same.
@@silentj624 The series finale is one of the absolute *best* endings I've ever seen for any TV show. My personal opinion: the last season is definitely worth watching for the finale alone, and it is a huge loss not to see it. (My two cents in case you ever do find a way to watch it someday)
I think they idea behind the name is really the combination of the two meanings of the word. Because they are always talking about the quality of Mike's suits as well and proclaiming Harvey's suits are way to expensive
OBJECTION! At 2:57 your editor put "Ya'll gonna get disbarred." As a proud Midwesterner who lived in Central Illinois for a decade, I can state as an expert in my field that "y'all" is a colloquial contraction of "you all," and therefore the apostrophe must go where the eliminated "ou" is, not after the "a." FOLKSY FRAUD.
OBJECTION! As someone born and raised in southern MS, this isn't how contractions work. Will not = won't; has not = hasn't; is not = isn't; have not = haven't; etc. The apostrophe splits the second term. Therefore, you all = "ya'll", not "y'all".
I'm currently watching this show with my parents, one a paralegal of 20+ years who's done a bit of everything and the other a bankruptcy paralegal of a similar amount of time and an ex-cop, is a genuinely FASCINATING experience tbh. Don't get me wrong they LOVE this show, and I do too, but sometimes my mom tells at the TV the way my dad does watching football and its great
@@abigail_yang He probably wrote it that way as 'Spectre' is the British variation of the world, although since the word is part of a name , the correct word would thus be 'Specter'.
@@abigail_yang I'm just adding extra information for anyone that reads this and is curious about why the variations between 'Spectre' and 'Specter' matters.
@@sriharshapinjala3926 the problem is that at any point he can get someone who doesn't care what Harvey has and goes to the bar not just for whatever he did but blackmail as well.
Suits is one of those shows where when you don't know what's going on you'll be like "yeah that makes sense." But when someone who knows what their talking about he'll go like "WHAT THE HECK IS THIS CRAP?"
I'm so happy to see this. I just discovered the medical show reviews and my first thought was "I wish someone would do this for legal shows." Well done and thanks!
I'm a law student but in brazil and we use a different legal system so when i watch this shows i just think "maybe thats how it works in commom law" it nice to see you saying how it really is.
You are being so kind! Reviewing the law practice in Suits is like reviewing the science in Star Wars. The show is a fantasy environment from the outset.
Not really. Suits isn’t fantasy this lawyer is explaining the unrealism and thus make it more realistic. A scientist doesn’t know how to make a god damn Death Star. One is grounded in reality and the other is fantasy and futuristic so therefore anything can happen and no one cares how
It's funny that Legal Eagle pointed out the hotel interview process being accurate, but everything else was garbage. It's like the showrunner(s) overheard that little detail from a lawyer and then made up the rest.
@@zoey1970 He shouldn't. If you enjoy the show, watch the goddamn show. It's actually his word against the show's writers, among which are surely some legal workers. So just keep watching and don't be affected by every little thing. I'm sure it wasn't his intent yo ruin it for you anyway.
@@zoey1970 Don't be sad. Keep enjoying the show. It's for entertainment only, not about actually learning Law. If it was 100% correct it would be boring as hell.
Fun fact: They made the character so smart, there is very little reason why Mike couldn't be a contractual private consultant while effortlessly studying in harvard because shenanigans and strings pulled
@@timestamp2525 But I thought he could still pass the bar without going to law school I guess (like the guy in Catch Me If You Can). Then he will be only lying about going to Harvard but he can practice law legally I suppose.
Objection: Mike’s dean is later shown to deliberately get him blacklisted from every decent law school as retaliation for getting his daughter expelled (even though no one forced her to buy test answers).
I don't remember the exact details, but I remember that the Dean also had to step down from his position because of what happened. And as his last act, he basically ruined Mike's future
Artem Bentsionov agreed! Also have to object to Mr. LegalEagle on the idea that Mike’s cheating is “not a big deal”. As someone who has been to law school, I can safely say it would take a miracle for the already very competitive law school admissions processes to accept or forgive a student who got expelled/suspended from college for cheating/identity fraud relating to an exam, specifically the LSAT. Moral and ethical evaluations are the bane of our existence albeit the evaluations are not perfect. This question of expulsion or suspension gets asked at almost every educational and career milestone of becoming a lawyer and later in practice, and at any time the administrators or the system may choose to use that as a reason to not accept you.
shortishperson yeah, I actually know someone who lost his big law job because it took 2+ years for the bar to admit him over a his moral fitness requirement (DUI in a different state, more than half a decade prior). Moral fitness requirements can absolutely prevent someone from becoming an attorney or severely limit their career.
flawlix Exactly. Wow sorry to hear that about your friend. Sounds like he finally got the bar eventually though, which is good. Hopefully he landed somewhere good. Personally I don’t understand why bar associations refuse people who already went to law law school and if there isn’t anything new that is “suspect” in their background since admittance to law school. Law schools do a vigorous review of moral character as well and if they deemed someone’s past DUI irrelevant and allowed them to study, they should be allowed to practice. After all, why allow someone to waste 3 years of their life and couple hundred thousand dollars, only to tell them, no sorry you can’t practice because of something everyone already knew you’d done before all that.
I’d love to see a revisit to this show where he determines how many crimes Harvey, Mike, Jessica, Louis, and Donna commit throughout the shows whole story 😂
It's the one thing I don't like about the show. It's hard to root for the characters when each and every one are constantly committing crimes. They are literally all criminals!
He's like Doctor Mike, but instead of keeping people alive he sends the ones who hurt them to prison. Like a team, the snake with a staff who can magic people to life and the legal eagle, who can spot a crime from 10 miles away
In my First job I was yelled at Because I didnt know how to fill in the form - and then once again that I didnt know that when you drop the case as plaintiff when the other side has been informed, you will have to bear the costs - they told me that if I had good scores at school I Should have known that 😂 like seriously, this is something you learn from practise not bacause you read civil procedure before going to sleep 🤦♀️
The first comment was directed specifically at Harvey. He knew how to fill out the form since it was literally a required part of his job. So it was a dig on him for deciding to push that onto someone else who had never done it before. "How hard" in this context related to his laziness and irresponsibility with a task that required very little time and energy from him, not the amount of knowledge and experience required, which he already had and Mike did not, hence why the second statement _does not_ actually contradict the first. So good attempt but your joke isn't relevant, unfortunately. But it's okay, language is hard! It's not like you've been practicing yours skill with it every day for almost your entire life or anything...oh, wait.
Well he does have a point on both of those things. The kid working where he is should have the knowledge to be able to hold his own ground. On the other hand he went for help clearly indicating he doesnt know a specific segment. If all the lawyers names are together the information has to be verified together. Simple bureaucratic rules.
Regarding Mike's indiscretion with the math test, we find out later on that he had been accepted to Harvard law, and the acceptance was withdrawn after that. He might have been ok if he got into another law school and ultimately had to face the bar, but he just sort of gave up on law school.
Possible videos 1. Books to read before law school. 2. Is early decision for you? Pros and Cons. 3. Does a high GPA counter balance a lower LSAT score? and if so how high does the GPA need to be? 4. If you go to school on the east coast, do you need to work there after law school is done?
Learning the Law by Glanville Willams is a good book to read before law school. It's like a small handbook for students. My late father recommended it to me before I started law school. He read law in Cambridge. :) I hope this helps
You miss the part where Mike's skills is that reads it, he understands it. Its not just having photographic memory, but understanding what he just read
@@harveyholmes9533 Yeah he went to college and was doing well but his idiot friend convinced him to sell a test to a girl who happened to be the deans daughter so he lost his scholarship and had to drop out.
Not gonna lie: I'd really enjoy seeing you do Suits on an episode-by-episode basis. This is the kind of stuff I find fascinating because I'm apparently incredibly pedantic and boring.
Harvey could have also endorsed a hearing in front of the ethics board for Mike. Cleared Mike's name from the get go under 10000 reasons! Mike could have cleared his LSAT's ethically, be in a law school, then come to the firm as summer associate in his first year (which would mark him as exceptional since they hire associated in second year onwards usually). But that would rob the writers of a juicer season 4-6. So we know why the brightest lawyer of New York didn't use his brain that day. He was listening to the writers. P.S I love Harvey Spectre btw!
No, he couldn't. If you would have watched all the seasons, you would know that Mike tried to apply for a Harvard, but got rejected for selling test to the daughter of dean of Mike's college. And at that time, Pearson Hardman didn't hire laywers from any other school than Harvard.
I would say Suits is very good for accurately describing consequences, the characters just rarely face them. The fact that Harvey hiring a guy without a law degree makes everyone liable is a huge theme for the series, at least in the early years. I think they are very accurate in their acknowledgement of what would really happen but the actions are not realistic.
Summer associates don't need a law degree. They just have to be in law school. They are usually in their second year of law school. To take the bar, you only need one year of law school and need to work for a law firm for 3 years.
I’m extremely excited about your channel I get to learn so much about the legal process, but I find myself still wanting more on the eagle facts, let’s get on that notches, legal but eagle
I guess he means it's not like a PI waiting in its smoky office drinking whiskey and waiting for th next client to come throught his gold &black lettered painted windowed door. They have to have clients that hire them long term and giving them work everyday.
@@jameshamaker9321 Did I forget to mention the beige raincoat over a low priced costume, the flask of bourbon in the gun holter and a hat, all of them hanging on a old style wook coat rack ? ^^
That line is not the end of his explanation. It continues to - "So... there are 2 types of partners". Most people don't know about rainmakers in law firms. That's what he means when he says what he says.
Of course, but people requested Suits to be reacted to so they could find out what's not realistic about it. It's not like he's nitpicking just to nitpick. That's what we're here for.
@@ImAlsoMerobiba Yeah I know, every show has its ups and downs and it’s nice seeing things we’ve missed but my point was that it’s a good show even if does has faults.
@@ImAlsoMerobiba But nothing he said really says it is not realistic lol He says: He should get disbarred And everyone knows that, the shows know that and people get disbarred because of it lol, so it is realistic. That is like saying a show about drug dealers is not realistic because dealing drugs is illegal lol
I couldn't help but pick certain things out but more of the background then what was being said. It's suppose to be a firm in New York and I guess they thought that by throwing some yellow cabs in, nobody would notice. I couldn't help but notice things such as Canada post mail boxes, TTC buses and street cars, Canadian banks, etc. It was filmed in Downtown Toronto and being from Toronto myself, it wasn't hard to pick up on it, especially Gerrad Square and where my actual lawyers law firm is on Bay Street.
Suits isnt just about suits, it is also about suits (lawsuits). took me like 6 seasons to catch the double connection. Plus Mike Ross = My Cross, being he was Harvey's cross to bear maybe. That one also took 6 seasons to realize
Great catch on mikecross- my cross to bear! I thought of Harvey as short for Harvard kind of like Yalie for Yale and Louis Litt(igator) about the best litigator I have ever seen on tv. They love toying with names!
@@elmerpacheco8155 u write in all caps and misspell that many words. Wow Elmer fudge u a fucking idiot. Btw, your analysis of Tami Harmon is wrong and you secretly wish you was/is on her level. Go play with your toys kid.
I'm not a law student nor do I have any interest in becoming one but man I love all of your react videos you do a great job at breaking down and explaining scenes
I recently discovered Suits and began watching it about 5 weeks ago. It is one of the best shows I have ever seen. It's interesting to see a real lawyer's perspective on it too.
You should do a video on copyright that's geared towards online video creators. A lot of TH-camrs are very confused on what's ok and not not, what's legal and not legal in terms of copyright. You could even do it react style by watching other TH-camr's videos. That would be very interesting and I think it would get views. Love the content btw, keep it up.
Try youtuberlaw that's his whole schtick is copyright. Honestly think this is fascinating on the whole lawyer critquing entertainment about his profession
Yes that would be very interesting. The dispute between Derek Savage and Alex from 'I hate everything' would be a good example to use. Savage pretended to be a law firm and actually threatened Alex.
I think a big problem Suits had is that the series creator originally intended for it to be about investment banking, a field he'd actually worked in, rather than corporate law. Without dedicated legal consulting (which they seem to have had very little of, if they had any whatsoever), it's going to be hard to achieve the same kind of authenticity it could've had if he'd stuck to a backdrop that he actually knows. I'm not sure why they decided to change it (maybe pressure from the network, who knows), but it's clear that their approach to writing legal drama was very much a fake it til you make it sort of thing. It's kind of funny, when you think about what the premise of the show is.
Thats like saying salesman don't lie. Supermarkets, gas stations don't lie. The best ones do and make it a legal loop hole later. To why this lawyer would not call it a lie. 🙄
@@sparrowhawk5673 HAve you seen the film where the JAck Nicholson Colonel character has had a soldier killed for the greater good and was sure he'd getaway with it because of his importance? The scientologist plays the lawyer...the one with his mouth open,looking a bit dumb sometimes, I can't remember his name.
@@sparrowhawk5673 A legal loop is not a lie. By finding and exploiting something that the law does not forsee you literally do not lie, you just use the non rigorousness of the law to your advantage. If someone says "Everything on the table is a dime" and then someone went on to say "But there's nothing on the table!", the first person wouldn't be a liar nor would he be contradicting himself. That's basic mathematical logic. His statement is just vague enough (not rigorous enough), so it doesn't take into consideration that there might not be anything on the table. The same goes with lawyering. Good lawyers are good in two things: in logic, and in seeing loopholes, conditions that the law didn't forsee and doesn't explicitly forbid. When they see those conditions, they try to prove through facts and evidence that the innocence (or guilt) of a party entails from those loopholes.
@@sparrowhawk5673 No. It isn't like saying that because if those other people lie they don't lose their career that cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars in tuition.
Ngl kinda cool to see someone like yourself, as busy as you probably are, making TH-cam videos and actually giving out real insight to that work place setting.
I just finished Suits, I loved it. Definitely could tell when they were very unrealistic, like blatantly telling a federal official you were a party to fraud and then not doing anything...I am curious though what the legal implications would be for Mike if he didn't take the deal and had the Not Guilty verdict returned?
Having a good memory would actually be incredibly helpful in almost any career. With law, it would help in knowing what loop holes to look for, any details in helping a client sooner, helps in being recommended in big projects, and how some laws can connect to other laws that would help in winning a case. If everyone knew more about their rights and how the law works we wouldn't need lawyers that know the ins and outs.
No they have shown good memory in a totally wrong way. In a career as lawyer you have to find a solution. Its not like a question paper where you have specific question and you have to give answer. But as a lawyer tou have to evaluate a question which is not specific, you have to find loopholes. This evaluation process is very hard to do in mind alone. Its like running 10 tabs on crome at a time.
@@user-bh6mz2kf6o ahh but Mike himself explained how he's different very early on. He doesn't just have perfect memory, he is able to properly assimilate and comprehend what he takes in which is very different. Perfect recall would be me seeing a multiple page math formula and a couple years later, reproducing it perfectly, but what he does is akin to seeing that math formula and then comprehending it enough to be able to work that kind of math even if it's not the exact one he looked at. It's creating the premise that he has the spatial reasoning abilities to take all those things he perfectly remembers and understand how to apply them to any situation that is applicable. That ability would definitely make you excel at most careers, outside of physical labor jobs perhaps.
@@kylethekidable Thanks for great comment. I sometimes wonder at the arbitrariness of likes. Many comments get likes only because they are short and funny. Yours is good, helpful and meaningful and deserves many likes. Are you a bit like that yourself, maybe? Many intelligent indivduals go undeveloped, or don't have an occupation where they can use it, and many less intelligent people know how to get ahead with social skills, elbows, ease and sometimes wide consciences. I am one who didn't get help with my illness, not properly assessed, but well enough to be known as needing good, extra competent psycho-therapy in order to heal. With Asppergers and lack of promotion, support, mentorship or the like, I have instead got sick from being outside and deceived and tortured worse than the criminal novels which I have no need to read. If you'd be good enough to give me some advice, I'd be grateful and glad. Have been wondering how they have let someone like me go unused in society. MIght the answer be that I am too inconvenient, too little smooth and accustomed to social interactions or would cost alittle to habilitate, or they don't like my healthy lifestyle, or they fear I'd demand damages? but if they had acted much sooner, that damage´s would not be as big as they will now.
Real lawyering has little to do with memorization and everything to do with the ability to find answers and solve problems. The only time you have to have amazing memory in law is taking law school exams in a closed book setting that requires you to have memorized the rules or concepts to answer an exam question. But even then that plays a portion of things with the key still being the ability to spot and solve problems through an understanding and application of a rule or case. The ability to communicate effectively and think critically is an immensely more valuable skill as an attorney than having a photographic memory. But as with everything in this show the focus is on things that aren’t real but make a more entertaining story. It’s a much better dramatic story to have a genius character who is a savant with a photographic memory than it is to show that a character always has legal resources available to them and needs to be able to think of all sides to an issue and research things to make a strong argument. The show almost demonstrates that when even though he’s a genius he can’t do the most basic of tasks like filling out a subpoena. Because despite the exciting theory of lawyer genius the bulk of being s successful attorney hinges on boring practical stuff nobody ever sees then it ever does on the flashy stuff laymen associate to the profession from what they’ve seen in entertainment. Even if you had a photographic memory depending on your memory versus deeply checking resources in your work would be malpractice in the grand scheme of things. But again the show has almost no basis in reality because reality is sadly boring if we’re honest.
Suits starts off quite strong, the fear of mike getting caught actually felt somewhat real. I watched up until season 6 but it was really a background show for me
Objection: Having Proctored LSAT I can tell you that 1) there is no way that everyone just deposits their test on their way out; they're collected. 2) Hats aren't allowed in the testing area. 3) All participants are required to present a government id to even get IN the testing room so he'd have to have lots of fake ids. 4) proctors escort testers to bathrooms and even IN the bathroom to prevent meetings. 5) All of the doors to the testing facility are locked, so even if he managed to get in, he wouldnt get out. Side note, proctoring an exam is AWFUL!!! When you're in there taking the test, the time flies by. When however you are WATCHING people take a test, for several hours, and you're not allowed to talk, read, use your phone, fall asleep or do ANYTHING it is really REALLY boring. The testees may feel trapped, but the proctors are the real prisoners. So, be nice to your proctors.
3. If i recall correctly he used the ID from the guy he cheated for (they looked similar). 5. He left when everyone else leaves. So i assume that at the end of the test the doors will get open, or do you hold the students as prisoners for ever? :)
This might get buried in the comments, but, my older brother is a lawyer as well and we love watching these. Always nice to see him laugh at how you break these down! Great job. Earned my sub!
Right answer: wrong reason. Harvey is looking to hire a new associate. Not summer associate. Associate would be someone who recently or is graduating from law school and has passed or will take the bar soon. If Harvey were looking for a summer associate, they would not need to be in the bar yet but would be still enrolled in law school
A summer associate, as explained at the outset, is someone who is a 2L still in law school. Essentially the 2L is doing a summer internship at a law firm.
GREAT response here. Love it. They were always shady. I just finished Season 9 and I was struck by the whole Faye thing...she was totally RIGHT about EVERYTHING! All of her criticisms and suggestions/warnings for the firm were exactly what they needed to hear. But of course they had to fight to get rid of her, so they could keep being shady lawyers. Still, a great show, entertaining for nine seasons.
Actually, despite exaggerations and lawyer jokes, most lawyers have to be that concerned with ethical violations because they cost attorneys their careers every day.
I‘m glad I found your channel ☺️ I’m a practicing attorney in Germany and sometimes when I watch these shows I can’t help but wonder if this is really how things work in the states..... 😂
but he was supposed to hire a summer associate. It's basically when a senior partner has an associate to help with the workload. But he didn't go to school so I don't think either one cared what his title was. I think that after you finish the summer you go back to uni and that's how you've finished your degree. and then you choose which firm you want to go to. But once again mike never went so who knows what his original title was
It probably took you 10 seconds because you were being lazy about it and taking it slow. The way Mike was acting here was like he had never hear the word "subpoena" or the word "Google" for that matter!!!
@@seanim6846 Yep... or at least I suppose it was discussed sometimes while I was getting a degree in Law (the memory is sketchy: drunk most of the time), although not in the US so I am sure there are differences. Do YOU know what a "subpoena" is?!
OMG, James, please keep watching Suits! It was hilarious listening to your commentary, you're unwittingly describing the entire show! Keep watching! You'll love it (I think!)
I didn't think the hotel scene would be realistic. I thought the show was just trying to hype up the pilot. I am genuinely surprised that's how interviews are conducted.
It makes sense that foreign agencies conduct their interviews in hotels, but I would have never have thought that a New-York-based firm would conduct interviews in a hotel in new york.
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No mention of the future queen in your review?
You say "these things take months" alot does anything in law not take months?!?
I saw your reaction to the Good Wife season 1 episode 1 and it was good. Please review The Good Wife season 4 episode 14 Red Team, Blue Team. You will not be disappointed. Good Lawyering!
Please do better call saul. First episode and season 3 episode 5 or have some great legal stuff.
Actually, most things take years...
I love suits, but I have never got over how the characters look at legal documents for two seconds and already are able to make insightful observations about its content.
Someone commented what could be a logical explanation: most of those documents has words or arguments highlighted. If some document is constructed in a way, most lawyers would know which way the document would go.
But let’s be honest. Watching lawyers do actual lawyer work (like taking the appropriate time to read documents) would be a very boring show lol.
Suspension of disbelief
Yes, they should have let us watch them read the document and we should put up with 2 hour episodes
@@Teknovae oh sir… it be much longer than 2 hours…
Legal Eagle: "Good lawyers don't lie"
Harvey Specter: "It's not lying, it's called bluffing."
@CD Smith nice
OBJECTION! Your Honor, he is Harvey Specter, we all know HE can do that. Oh, yes, and Mike Ross, let's not forget, Mike. Ok, ok, ALL of them, but only them, and only because they have been awesome and have helped us to have such a good time and so many hours, mmm...well, weeks, months, years...having so much fun with these guys! So, for law students everywhere, please, just don't do that. Just don't. Will you lose your license if you copycat these guys moves? Yes, of course, you definitely will. So, just don't and let everybody else "non lawyer people", like me, enjoy this great show. Thank you.
It’s called “playing the man” 😂
@@NormaLilia24 Playing the man not the game.
The whole series is based on Harvey not viewing society's or the legal profession's ethical code as important if it doesn't tally with what he views as the right thing to do at any time. Suits plots are all predicated on the idea that the firm gets results by breaking rules and not getting caught. They then have to break more rules to avoid getting exposed. They value loyalty above ethics so the hole gets dug deeper. This is literally the entire series with some emotional drama and sex thrown in for entertainment value. I've seen lawyers who sail close to the wind but I've yet to meet a Harvey. The idea that the management of that firm would collude with all this shady shit is dumb.
If they made suits just like real life then it would take 9 seasons to win 1 case
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This facts though!
We do that anyway here in my country 😪
Hahaha
@@ayushsaxena6271it's interesting this comment attract mainly indians
As someone who has watched the whole show, it’s quite interesting to see you sort of predict and explain the exact things that would very much soon become a major issue for the characters and essentially - the driving points of the show.
I'd think as a lawyer he's watched it
Well I am not a lawyer, but I understood how unrealistic everything is and predicted the same 10 minutes into this show. It’s just common sense if you have seen enough and done enough in the corporate world.
Agreed! The dramatic license in the show, which makes it interesting and drives the plot, is inherently deviant from reality. This was fun.
Every event that occurs in this show wouldn’t work in the real world whatsoever. But obviously the entertainment of the show is how they do these things even though they’re genuinely not remotely possible in the real world. Even something that could have been possible like hiring Mike as a paralegal, have him go to school and eventually pass the bar, probably wouldn’t work. His history of academic fraud and taking LSATs for people for money for example would already have made it really hard to be admitted to the bar. Granted if he was hired as a paralegal to work through school by the time he was done he’d have years of ethical behavior to demonstrate to make s good argument for why he should qualify for the state bar now so it’s possible there. But I cannot overstate that every single event of this show is not even close to possible.
@@Meshack_Mulihe said that he hadn’t seen an episode at the start of the video
Me when I first watched this episode of suits: "oh man that's such a good strategy"
Stone: "That is bad lawyering"
Me: "oh yeah that's bad lawyering"
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It is only bad lawyering if you get found, which is the point. Harvey knows it is a risk, but he does it either way
"lawyers don't lie"
I dunno, that sounds just like something a liar would say
He said " good lawyers don't lie "
😂😂😂😂
@@Royalbrettania define "good"
@@TheBatfromArkham easy ! "Good " = Legal Eagle. . And also Doctor Mike
Lawyers are paid to convince. So yeah just a little salt bae sprinkle of lies might be added
"This firm isn't going to exist for very long."
Yes, that's the whole story.
"every time the firm goes under we make the whole thing again" - pearson hardman darby specter litt (were there any more I literally forgot)
@@a.w_. oh u mean zane wheeler williams bennet?😂
@@kodraa no bro its "litt wheeler williams bennet".
@@rahulkumarbharati7252 yeah i wrote zane instead of litt
@@kodraa looks like comment section is dead its just two of us here.
I taught LSAT for years and even owned an LSAT prep service before I actually went to law school. I cannot tell you how many times I was offered money to take the LSAT for someone (and it was almost always the parents offering, not the student, and the standard offer was $25K, in 2001-2004). So it's kind of absurd that Mike is doing it for a couple hundred bucks. But I always thought that when the guy tried to stiff Mike and says "Call the cops," Mike's proper response would have been, "Cops? No, I'll call LSAC, and your law career will be over before you even go to law school. After all, YOU want to go to law school. I don't. So LSAC can't do anything to me. They can and will end you." Or something like that.
true point, but mike would probably kill his own business if he ratted a student out to LSAC
@@spencerpencer Possibly, but if people knew it was because the guy got the score and refused to pay, it would probably just increase his chances of being paid in full in the future.
I assume Mike sat the exam for the other guy? What I don’t understand how the exam supervisor picked up that Mike was a cheater. Why did he put his paper in the middle of the pile? Do the students have to show ID when they hand the paper in?
@@jamesk479 It undoubtedly was . . . but while I would have happily reported the parents, I did not want to cause trouble for the students (most of whom apparently did not even know their parents were attempting such chicanery). I just told the parents that if their kid took my course and applied himself/herself, the result would be the same without the risk and at much less expense.
It wasn’t the first time that proctor saw him.
Him:"He's committing fraud"
Me:"First time huh?"
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Can’t believe bluffing is fraud
hahahahhahahahahahahaha so true
A real lawyer watching suits first episode:
This firm is not gonna exist for much longer...
Everyone who has seen suits:
If u knew...
TheDuckfrak 😅
It's called being fictional and having plot armor
Harvey's gonna burn this guy 😂
@@benwillems8584 Which is shoddy worldbuilding and lazy writing.
@@AravindPradhyumnan I look forward to your perfectly written tv show
I knew that lawyers got suits, but I never dreamed I'd see the day where suits got lawyered.
hahaha 😂
so clever
woooow
Very clever wordplay.. 😅
6k likes and only 6 comments?! Lemme fix dat! 😂
the ironic thing here is that, according to this video, Mike Ross was the least fraudulent person in this firm
Even in the show, the only “fraud” he committed was being a lawyer with a fake college degree.
@@ArnulfoSalgado He committed more fraud than that and he committed that fraud like 5 times and episode.
The fact is that that firm defrauded their clients with every single interaction regarding Mike.
Not that they weren’t already engaging in fraud beforehand.
@@ArnulfoSalgadobut t to be a lawyer you have to pass the bar so he is a lawyer and cannot practice the law which is super fraudulent and Harvey knew about it the entire time which is even more fraudulent
He is not a lawyer ^+
"all these lawyers should be disbarred"
laughs in later seasons
@@jonts7 a few of the main characters take the fall for harveys illegal activity, happens 3 times
@@jonts7 Travis Tanner? Is that you?
I’d like this guy to have an argument with Harvey
It's Harvey Specter....come on now, dude does whatever he wants. He's the best closer in New York.
@@xeonbladev18 I LOVE YOUR COMMENT WHEKXOWHRXOWJFB
3:15, “might be a crime” describes most of Harvey’s legal strategies
Harvey: Lies to the client to close the deal
LegalEagle: Okay, so this is called Fraud
Me: You have no idea...
wtf?
No idea 😅
its so much worse hahahahaha
Legal eagle: this is called fraud
Us: first time?
Lol I know right. He was mostly pointing out the obvious things that they did to entertain audiences. I really thought he would point out things we didn’t know
One thing i can always count on about Suits is that whenever someone is about to leave a room, they always stop at the door and look back to say one more comment before leaving 😂
Or leave thinking they won the argument, leaving a quippy comment, just to find out later it fell through and the lawsuit continues. I’m always screaming “wait until it’s signed before you leave the room!”
@@jenniferkelley5473 Or how always someone appears magically at the door to listen to some conversation or to participate in it just at the right time. The offices are all made of glass but no one ever see them coming lol.
they also walk very fast for no reason while talking 😂like standing and talking is just poor or something
I always thought about this, and loved the image of each character hiding behind a wall eavesdropping for the exact right moment to enter...@@jesusgarciacruz9059
They also say "what are you talking about' at least 2 times in every episode.
him: what this person has done is called fraud...
me: yeah youre gonna see a lot of that in this show...
Fraud is the least of their crimes.
Like, do you even know what this show is about?
I love his frustration 😂😂😂 "YOU JUST DON'T LIE TO THE CLIENT"
It is like watching a medical professional react to TV doctors shocking asystole.
@@GhostBear3067 I just realized why there are no prime time dramas about accountants.
Morty Goldmacher because accountant are scumbags
@@rawtrout007 Scumbags make great shows. Sopranos? The Wire? Breaking Bad?
@@rawtrout007 do you even know what accountants do
Law is just a backdrop for suits . Main themes are loyalty and respect and power
Exactly. Classic money power betrayal. Almost like a Shakespeare piece
@@524coconut exaclty you get it
Finally someone said it
You forgot family
@@524coconut mmm no
Suits might not be legally accurate, but its entertaining as hell. And it's cool to know which things were surprisingly accurate. Like the interviews.
I watched the entire 8 seasons on Netflix in about 2 weeks thinking that was everything. Turns out there's a season 9 on something I don't have. Not worth paying for. I lost interest really when Mike and Rachel left and though he comes back for the end it's just not the same.
@@silentj624 The series finale is one of the absolute *best* endings I've ever seen for any TV show. My personal opinion: the last season is definitely worth watching for the finale alone, and it is a huge loss not to see it.
(My two cents in case you ever do find a way to watch it someday)
@@silentj624the finale is the best season trust me
This show is CRAP like 15 year old girl wrote this!! This is what a stupid person thinks a Harvard lawyer does. 😂😂😂 I couldn't even finish 1 episode.
i think it's deliberate, since they have to balance between realism and entertainment, you bet, entertainment is more important in this case
Even I thought it was called “Suits” because they wear suits. It’s really because the show is about Law “Suits.”
I never trust a lawyer who is not in the shaving club.
I'm binge watching the show for the first time and I'm halfway through season 3 and I've only just realised that about the title! lol
I think they idea behind the name is really the combination of the two meanings of the word. Because they are always talking about the quality of Mike's suits as well and proclaiming Harvey's suits are way to expensive
Mind blown. Honestly didn't cross my mind lol
No that's not actually true. A "suit" is slang for a lawyer.
You and Louis Litt would have a lot to talk about.
I swear to God 😂😂
Dead😂😂😂😂
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OBJECTION! At 2:57 your editor put "Ya'll gonna get disbarred." As a proud Midwesterner who lived in Central Illinois for a decade, I can state as an expert in my field that "y'all" is a colloquial contraction of "you all," and therefore the apostrophe must go where the eliminated "ou" is, not after the "a." FOLKSY FRAUD.
SUSTAINED. Damn, that one cuts to the core. I will now burn all my George Strait albums.
Hi, Austin!
Hey it's Austin!
As a man of the South, I also must support this objection.
OBJECTION! As someone born and raised in southern MS, this isn't how contractions work. Will not = won't; has not = hasn't; is not = isn't; have not = haven't; etc. The apostrophe splits the second term. Therefore, you all = "ya'll", not "y'all".
I'm currently watching this show with my parents, one a paralegal of 20+ years who's done a bit of everything and the other a bankruptcy paralegal of a similar amount of time and an ex-cop, is a genuinely FASCINATING experience tbh. Don't get me wrong they LOVE this show, and I do too, but sometimes my mom tells at the TV the way my dad does watching football and its great
This is weird. Last time I watched Suits Rachel wasn't Duchess of Sussex.
Lol
I KNOW RIGHT
Haha Is that her official title then? Pretty badass!
I think so, yeah.
Duchess of Sex haha
This guy is savage.
He just called THE HARVEY GODDAMN SPECTRE a fraud in first 3 mins of the first episode xD
learn to spell the name, will you? it's spelled HARVEY GODDAMN SPECTER
He's fictitious tho...
@@abigail_yang He probably wrote it that way as 'Spectre' is the British variation of the world, although since the word is part of a name , the correct word would thus be 'Specter'.
AJ Smith your point being...?
@@abigail_yang I'm just adding extra information for anyone that reads this and is curious about why the variations between 'Spectre' and 'Specter' matters.
Lol, so basically Harvey would have been disbarred every episode
but then u never have this awesome series.
Well yes but only if he got caught. The thing about Harvey is he doesn't get caught, well at least not until seasons 7, 8, and 9. lol.
No, he wouldn't have been. Because he's always had a leverage against anyone who could jeopardize his career. Or he would find some dirt. Sooooo
@@sriharshapinjala3926 the problem is that at any point he can get someone who doesn't care what Harvey has and goes to the bar not just for whatever he did but blackmail as well.
That's why the big guns get paid so much. They end up going down in flames.
The *Harvey disbarred* counter is so funny, considering that 50% of the things Harvey does could get him disbarred. 😂
Suits is one of those shows where when you don't know what's going on you'll be like "yeah that makes sense." But when someone who knows what their talking about he'll go like "WHAT THE HECK IS THIS CRAP?"
Every single greys anatomy episode.
"what they're* talking about"
@@jeffthelobster7088 why do you say that? I've not watched that show but have heard about it
@@recursion. it’s not accurate medicine. lots of illegal activity too lol
@@recursion.it’s veryyy inaccurate, Doctor Mike does a good video reacting to it!
I'm so happy to see this. I just discovered the medical show reviews and my first thought was "I wish someone would do this for legal shows." Well done and thanks!
I WAS THINGKING THE SAME THING!!!!
yass me too!!!
Me too, just came straight across from the language and medical critiques
It would be cool if a police officer did this for cop shows also!!!
I'm a law student but in brazil and we use a different legal system so when i watch this shows i just think "maybe thats how it works in commom law" it nice to see you saying how it really is.
You are being so kind! Reviewing the law practice in Suits is like reviewing the science in Star Wars. The show is a fantasy environment from the outset.
Exactly 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Tutuappviphezh1 some of the characters bleed in star wars. So you could argue there's some factual science in it
Not really. Suits isn’t fantasy this lawyer is explaining the unrealism and thus make it more realistic. A scientist doesn’t know how to make a god damn Death Star. One is grounded in reality and the other is fantasy and futuristic so therefore anything can happen and no one cares how
It's funny that Legal Eagle pointed out the hotel interview process being accurate, but everything else was garbage. It's like the showrunner(s) overheard that little detail from a lawyer and then made up the rest.
Or a doctor for House.
Best line, "They aren't even witness tampering right."
The show can't even be Illegal correctly.
Connor McGalliard 😂 LOL I know. But he’s ruined this show for me!
@@zoey1970
He shouldn't. If you enjoy the show, watch the goddamn show. It's actually his word against the show's writers, among which are surely some legal workers. So just keep watching and don't be affected by every little thing. I'm sure it wasn't his intent yo ruin it for you anyway.
Agreed
@@zoey1970 Don't be sad. Keep enjoying the show. It's for entertainment only, not about actually learning Law. If it was 100% correct it would be boring as hell.
Tom Joad I‘m sorry did you just call real life law boring?
The biggest joke on the show was that Mike was just a delivery guy with a small suitcase of weed and he was gonna get paid 25k.
For real. That was a couple grand of green at the most
Jeremy Sivertsen I like how you conveniently know how much that “green” was worth.
Praise The Sun well a pound goes for 2.5 K street value
Gemini LaVell well that’s good to know
he (harvey) was looking for someone that is “him”
“Alright! So, what this person has done is called ‘fraud.’” God just the way you said that was so funny
It's Harvey Specter....come on now, dude does whatever he wants. He's the best closer in New York.
Best god damn closer in New York 😏
Melo was better.
@@katangboy Melo can´t come close to Mariano Rivera.
Hell yeah. Harvey is surely better than the dude who’s reacting lol
@@katangboy lamelo ball is the best closer
Fun fact: They made the character so smart, there is very little reason why Mike couldn't be a contractual private consultant while effortlessly studying in harvard because shenanigans and strings pulled
That is my biggest problem with the plot
He sold tests to the Harvard Dean who then swore to prevent his admission to any law school
he was an addict. the drugs negated a lot of his intelligence
@@kevinfeeney3042 The man smoked weed on the occasion. "An addict", get real.
@@timestamp2525 But I thought he could still pass the bar without going to law school I guess (like the guy in Catch Me If You Can). Then he will be only lying about going to Harvard but he can practice law legally I suppose.
Objection: Mike’s dean is later shown to deliberately get him blacklisted from every decent law school as retaliation for getting his daughter expelled (even though no one forced her to buy test answers).
I don't remember the exact details, but I remember that the Dean also had to step down from his position because of what happened. And as his last act, he basically ruined Mike's future
Artem Bentsionov agreed! Also have to object to Mr. LegalEagle on the idea that Mike’s cheating is “not a big deal”. As someone who has been to law school, I can safely say it would take a miracle for the already very competitive law school admissions processes to accept or forgive a student who got expelled/suspended from college for cheating/identity fraud relating to an exam, specifically the LSAT. Moral and ethical evaluations are the bane of our existence albeit the evaluations are not perfect. This question of expulsion or suspension gets asked at almost every educational and career milestone of becoming a lawyer and later in practice, and at any time the administrators or the system may choose to use that as a reason to not accept you.
shortishperson yeah, I actually know someone who lost his big law job because it took 2+ years for the bar to admit him over a his moral fitness requirement (DUI in a different state, more than half a decade prior). Moral fitness requirements can absolutely prevent someone from becoming an attorney or severely limit their career.
flawlix Exactly. Wow sorry to hear that about your friend. Sounds like he finally got the bar eventually though, which is good. Hopefully he landed somewhere good. Personally I don’t understand why bar associations refuse people who already went to law law school and if there isn’t anything new that is “suspect” in their background since admittance to law school. Law schools do a vigorous review of moral character as well and if they deemed someone’s past DUI irrelevant and allowed them to study, they should be allowed to practice. After all, why allow someone to waste 3 years of their life and couple hundred thousand dollars, only to tell them, no sorry you can’t practice because of something everyone already knew you’d done before all that.
I’d love to see a revisit to this show where he determines how many crimes Harvey, Mike, Jessica, Louis, and Donna commit throughout the shows whole story 😂
That would be a video several hours long, no?
Exactly!😆😂🤣
It's the one thing I don't like about the show. It's hard to root for the characters when each and every one are constantly committing crimes. They are literally all criminals!
@@daliam8715 I mean...Better Call Saul is about the exact same thing. Same with Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, or any other popular show
Legal Eagle: "Good lawyers don't lie"
Saul Goodman: ''hold my battery'''
The biggest liar😂
He's not a liar he just doesn't tell the truth until it benefits him
ma men just bends the law
The most underated comment in TH-cam history
I guess lying is a way to cheat in extra money?
You're like Doctor mike but a lawyer.
i was just thinking that!
You’ve really cracked the case here man. I didn’t even think about that
Thats exactly what was going through my mind
I thought of the same thingggg
He's like Doctor Mike, but instead of keeping people alive he sends the ones who hurt them to prison. Like a team, the snake with a staff who can magic people to life and the legal eagle, who can spot a crime from 10 miles away
14:27 "How hard is it to fill out a form"
Exactly 9 seconds later: "GIVE THE KID A BREAK HE SHOULDN'T BE EXPECTED TO KNOW HOW TO DO IT"
I thought the first comment was a joke like pff you know how to do something on your first day what an idiot.
In my First job I was yelled at Because I didnt know how to fill in the form - and then once again that I didnt know that when you drop the case as plaintiff when the other side has been informed, you will have to bear the costs - they told me that if I had good scores at school I Should have known that 😂 like seriously, this is something you learn from practise not bacause you read civil procedure before going to sleep 🤦♀️
The first comment was directed specifically at Harvey. He knew how to fill out the form since it was literally a required part of his job. So it was a dig on him for deciding to push that onto someone else who had never done it before. "How hard" in this context related to his laziness and irresponsibility with a task that required very little time and energy from him, not the amount of knowledge and experience required, which he already had and Mike did not, hence why the second statement _does not_ actually contradict the first.
So good attempt but your joke isn't relevant, unfortunately. But it's okay, language is hard! It's not like you've been practicing yours skill with it every day for almost your entire life or anything...oh, wait.
Well he does have a point on both of those things. The kid working where he is should have the knowledge to be able to hold his own ground. On the other hand he went for help clearly indicating he doesnt know a specific segment. If all the lawyers names are together the information has to be verified together. Simple bureaucratic rules.
Regarding Mike's indiscretion with the math test, we find out later on that he had been accepted to Harvard law, and the acceptance was withdrawn after that. He might have been ok if he got into another law school and ultimately had to face the bar, but he just sort of gave up on law school.
Oh ok
I'm not entirely sure how I got here ... but I'm not mad
SAME!!!
Same... 😱
Same lmao
Just what i thought
I feel the same way
I didn't go to law school. However, after watching suits I'm positive and confident I can represent my self.
No cause same 😭
Cut to you defending yourself with the Harvey Spector playbook ending up charged with half a dozen counts of fraud 😂
Then you would have a fool for a client. K?
your ass is def going to jail
*myself
Possible videos
1. Books to read before law school.
2. Is early decision for you? Pros and Cons.
3. Does a high GPA counter balance a lower LSAT score? and if so how high does the GPA need to be?
4. If you go to school on the east coast, do you need to work there after law school is done?
MR.O I'd love to see the first one.
Glad you guys like the video ideas! Just
hope James does and sooner rather than later! I’m currently applying!
Learning the Law by Glanville Willams is a good book to read before law school. It's like a small handbook for students. My late father recommended it to me before I started law school. He read law in Cambridge. :) I hope this helps
You miss the part where Mike's skills is that reads it, he understands it. Its not just having photographic memory, but understanding what he just read
He got kicked out of law school but he did go. I'm sure somewhere in there he got taught some understanding of it.
@@silentj624he didn’t go to law school he got kicked out of normal university I believe
Still wouldn't work. Tons of law school is interactive.
Mike is an idiot in almost ever single episode.
@@harveyholmes9533 Yeah he went to college and was doing well but his idiot friend convinced him to sell a test to a girl who happened to be the deans daughter so he lost his scholarship and had to drop out.
"They're not even witness tampering right" has got to be one of my favorite lines.
“Everyone, take notes!!”
If you’re gonna cheat, cheat well!
Not gonna lie: I'd really enjoy seeing you do Suits on an episode-by-episode basis. This is the kind of stuff I find fascinating because I'm apparently incredibly pedantic and boring.
The fact that you admit that makes you a whole lot more interesting ..
I would also love this. I am also pathetic and boring... :-)
I’d like this guy to have an argument with Harvey
My mind would explode.
Not just an argument but them having a case against each other would be amazing!
If Harvey actually had real life attorney knowledge it would be cool to see
This guy would be right, but Harvey would still win
I can’t imagine the movie references and “you son of a bitch”s there would be lmao
Harvey could have also endorsed a hearing in front of the ethics board for Mike. Cleared Mike's name from the get go under 10000 reasons! Mike could have cleared his LSAT's ethically, be in a law school, then come to the firm as summer associate in his first year (which would mark him as exceptional since they hire associated in second year onwards usually). But that would rob the writers of a juicer season 4-6. So we know why the brightest lawyer of New York didn't use his brain that day. He was listening to the writers. P.S I love Harvey Spectre btw!
No, he couldn't. If you would have watched all the seasons, you would know that Mike tried to apply for a Harvard, but got rejected for selling test to the daughter of dean of Mike's college. And at that time, Pearson Hardman didn't hire laywers from any other school than Harvard.
@@anndrew4190 I literally started by saying Harvey could have endorsed a hearing in front of the ethics board. Which ethics board do you think I mean?
i think mike didn't even graduate from college
the way this gentleman explains things makes me want to listen to more things he says whatever they are
True. I guess that's the quality of good lawyer
Attorney at Law: ASMR edition. I'd listen to that.
@@mknell69 this
He could win by charisma and attractiveness
That's why he is on TH-cam. He'd definitely be a great trial lawyer.
I just found new way to waste my time. This is acceptable.
This comment literally describes my life atm
Hahaha, well you might be right
The time you enjoy spending is not wasted
it is so fucking true... *Crying in the corner*
YES. yes it is
I would say Suits is very good for accurately describing consequences, the characters just rarely face them. The fact that Harvey hiring a guy without a law degree makes everyone liable is a huge theme for the series, at least in the early years. I think they are very accurate in their acknowledgement of what would really happen but the actions are not realistic.
Summer associates don't need a law degree. They just have to be in law school. They are usually in their second year of law school. To take the bar, you only need one year of law school and need to work for a law firm for 3 years.
I’m extremely excited about your channel I get to learn so much about the legal process, but I find myself still wanting more on the eagle facts, let’s get on that notches, legal but eagle
That dude even looks like Harvey and Mike combined 😂
With a jim halpert haircut and ears lol
korsakoff STP lmaooo yeah! 😂
Son of a biittch you might be unto something hahaha.
ikr lol
Ultra Fox lmaooo 😂
15:55 - "What most people don't know about being a big firm attorney is that without clients, the firm can't operate"
Wow. I really did not know that
I guess he means it's not like a PI waiting in its smoky office drinking whiskey and waiting for th next client to come throught his gold &black lettered painted windowed door. They have to have clients that hire them long term and giving them work everyday.
Hahaha
Tom Joad that was super descriptive 😂😂
@@jameshamaker9321 Did I forget to mention the beige raincoat over a low priced costume, the flask of bourbon in the gun holter and a hat, all of them hanging on a old style wook coat rack ? ^^
That line is not the end of his explanation. It continues to - "So... there are 2 types of partners". Most people don't know about rainmakers in law firms. That's what he means when he says what he says.
At the end of the day even if we picked a hundred things wrong with the show we all still enjoyed it
Of course, but people requested Suits to be reacted to so they could find out what's not realistic about it. It's not like he's nitpicking just to nitpick. That's what we're here for.
@@ImAlsoMerobiba Yeah I know, every show has its ups and downs and it’s nice seeing things we’ve missed but my point was that it’s a good show even if does has faults.
@@ImAlsoMerobiba But nothing he said really says it is not realistic lol
He says: He should get disbarred
And everyone knows that, the shows know that and people get disbarred because of it lol, so it is realistic.
That is like saying a show about drug dealers is not realistic because dealing drugs is illegal lol
Precisely ;)
I couldn't help but pick certain things out but more of the background then what was being said. It's suppose to be a firm in New York and I guess they thought that by throwing some yellow cabs in, nobody would notice. I couldn't help but notice things such as Canada post mail boxes, TTC buses and street cars, Canadian banks, etc. It was filmed in Downtown Toronto and being from Toronto myself, it wasn't hard to pick up on it, especially Gerrad Square and where my actual lawyers law firm is on Bay Street.
Suits isnt just about suits, it is also about suits (lawsuits). took me like 6 seasons to catch the double connection. Plus Mike Ross = My Cross, being he was Harvey's cross to bear maybe. That one also took 6 seasons to realize
Great catch on mikecross- my cross to bear! I thought of Harvey as short for Harvard kind of like Yalie for Yale and Louis Litt(igator) about the best litigator I have ever seen on tv. They love toying with names!
@@misselanys1219 Sheila Sazs (Sheila's ass) was the funniest one
@@nnr997 someone in the writing staff has a highly honed sense of humor
Plot twist: this guy is not a real lawyer, he just benched 9 seasons of suits
Yordan Patronski There are 7 seasons of suits lol, but I get the joke. I binged all the seasons in a few weeks lol
It's actually 8. Season 8 premiered July 18, 2018
That shelf is CG
I’m the same way so I can confirm you’re on to something
is the word you are looking for "binged"?
I’m a lawyer and I actually sat through this like I was learning something new. You do a great job.
@RivaniUC Based on being entertained?
Man, you really like Katy Perry
Elmer Pacheco dude what did she do to you 😂
@@elmerpacheco8155 u write in all caps and misspell that many words. Wow Elmer fudge u a fucking idiot. Btw, your analysis of Tami Harmon is wrong and you secretly wish you was/is on her level. Go play with your toys kid.
I see you literally WORK FOR TRUMP lmao, not shocked you as a 'lawyer' are learning new things on a youtube reaction to suits.
I'm not a law student nor do I have any interest in becoming one but man I love all of your react videos you do a great job at breaking down and explaining scenes
Check out Doctor Mike next if you haven't already. He reacts to medical shows
I recently discovered Suits and began watching it about 5 weeks ago. It is one of the best shows I have ever seen. It's interesting to see a real lawyer's perspective on it too.
I'd like to watch you go over every episode of Suits like this. I find watching a person critique their profession as-seen-on-TV quite entertaining.
This was great. I'd love to see you react to How to Get Away with Murder.
The first season for sure. A lot less law, a lot more drama as the series progresses. Still a great series.
Chris Taylor season 4 was a lot of law because of the class action
You should do a video on copyright that's geared towards online video creators. A lot of TH-camrs are very confused on what's ok and not not, what's legal and not legal in terms of copyright. You could even do it react style by watching other TH-camr's videos. That would be very interesting and I think it would get views. Love the content btw, keep it up.
I love the idea
Try youtuberlaw that's his whole schtick is copyright. Honestly think this is fascinating on the whole lawyer critquing entertainment about his profession
I mean there's always Leonard French who specializes in copyright law.
Yes that would be very interesting. The dispute between Derek Savage and Alex from 'I hate everything' would be a good example to use. Savage pretended to be a law firm and actually threatened Alex.
I think a big problem Suits had is that the series creator originally intended for it to be about investment banking, a field he'd actually worked in, rather than corporate law. Without dedicated legal consulting (which they seem to have had very little of, if they had any whatsoever), it's going to be hard to achieve the same kind of authenticity it could've had if he'd stuck to a backdrop that he actually knows. I'm not sure why they decided to change it (maybe pressure from the network, who knows), but it's clear that their approach to writing legal drama was very much a fake it til you make it sort of thing.
It's kind of funny, when you think about what the premise of the show is.
oh fascinating, that’s a big shift in premise
I wonder how that show would have turned out
@@rkah6187Like Industry on HBO but worse
OBJECTION: Not all lawyers are as attractive as they are in shows or in this very video
I think that's proven by many characters in the show including Louis litt
@@tgaw9659 Disproven, Louis is a sexy beast
@@somerandomguy92 yes he is LIT
@@bohrmaschiiienvonderbausti7505 You just got Litt Up
@@tgaw9659 how dare you sir
"Lawyers dont lie"
Me realising that literally everyone has lied in the series: *something's wrong, I can feel it*
Thats like saying salesman don't lie. Supermarkets, gas stations don't lie.
The best ones do and make it a legal loop hole later. To why this lawyer would not call it a lie. 🙄
@@sparrowhawk5673 HAve you seen the film where the JAck Nicholson Colonel character has had a soldier killed for the greater good and was sure he'd getaway with it because of his importance? The scientologist plays the lawyer...the one with his mouth open,looking a bit dumb sometimes, I can't remember his name.
@@sparrowhawk5673 A legal loop is not a lie. By finding and exploiting something that the law does not forsee you literally do not lie, you just use the non rigorousness of the law to your advantage.
If someone says "Everything on the table is a dime" and then someone went on to say "But there's nothing on the table!", the first person wouldn't be a liar nor would he be contradicting himself. That's basic mathematical logic. His statement is just vague enough (not rigorous enough), so it doesn't take into consideration that there might not be anything on the table.
The same goes with lawyering. Good lawyers are good in two things: in logic, and in seeing loopholes, conditions that the law didn't forsee and doesn't explicitly forbid. When they see those conditions, they try to prove through facts and evidence that the innocence (or guilt) of a party entails from those loopholes.
@@sparrowhawk5673 No. It isn't like saying that because if those other people lie they don't lose their career that cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars in tuition.
Ngl kinda cool to see someone like yourself, as busy as you probably are, making TH-cam videos and actually giving out real insight to that work place setting.
"The Bar Council looks at your moral character"
And if you have any they don't let you in
Sanat Varma 🤣🤣🤣
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If that were true, lawyers wouldn’t exist
Andy Sutcliffe you must be fun at parties
“What this person has done is called FRAUD” lol, my favorite line in any of your videos. Keep up the great work man!
Every now and then Devin's voice sounds scarily similar to that of Gabriel Macht (the actor who plays Harvey Specter.)
J.J. Schlachtfeld I was just thinking this guy might be the real Harvey Specter of LA
I was looking for this comment! My thoughts exactly!!
Yes!
I can never listen to devin's voice the same way ever again😂😂
I just finished Suits, I loved it. Definitely could tell when they were very unrealistic, like blatantly telling a federal official you were a party to fraud and then not doing anything...I am curious though what the legal implications would be for Mike if he didn't take the deal and had the Not Guilty verdict returned?
*_"This firm is not gonna exist for much longer"_*
Well, you're not wrong. #PearsonDarby
Wdym Pearson Darby? That lasted about 5 episodes
Pearson Hardmen
Pearson
Pearson Darby
Pearson Darby Specter
Pearson Specter
Pearson Specter Litt
Zane Specter Litt
And so on....
Litt wheeler Williams Bennett
@@egalitarianism9203 I know, but it's still the firm that came after Pearson Hardman.
@@ravneetanand2659 "This firm changes names more times than Prince." --- Mike Ross
Having a good memory would actually be incredibly helpful in almost any career. With law, it would help in knowing what loop holes to look for, any details in helping a client sooner, helps in being recommended in big projects, and how some laws can connect to other laws that would help in winning a case. If everyone knew more about their rights and how the law works we wouldn't need lawyers that know the ins and outs.
No they have shown good memory in a totally wrong way. In a career as lawyer you have to find a solution. Its not like a question paper where you have specific question and you have to give answer. But as a lawyer tou have to evaluate a question which is not specific, you have to find loopholes. This evaluation process is very hard to do in mind alone. Its like running 10 tabs on crome at a time.
@@user-bh6mz2kf6o Did you mean 100 tabs? As a software engineer the last time I had 10 tabs running I was probably using the school's computer
@@user-bh6mz2kf6o ahh but Mike himself explained how he's different very early on. He doesn't just have perfect memory, he is able to properly assimilate and comprehend what he takes in which is very different. Perfect recall would be me seeing a multiple page math formula and a couple years later, reproducing it perfectly, but what he does is akin to seeing that math formula and then comprehending it enough to be able to work that kind of math even if it's not the exact one he looked at. It's creating the premise that he has the spatial reasoning abilities to take all those things he perfectly remembers and understand how to apply them to any situation that is applicable. That ability would definitely make you excel at most careers, outside of physical labor jobs perhaps.
@@kylethekidable Thanks for great comment. I sometimes wonder at the arbitrariness of likes. Many comments get likes only because they are short and funny. Yours is good, helpful and meaningful and deserves many likes.
Are you a bit like that yourself, maybe? Many intelligent indivduals go undeveloped, or don't have an occupation where they can use it, and many less intelligent people know how to get ahead with social skills, elbows, ease and sometimes wide consciences.
I am one who didn't get help with my illness, not properly assessed, but well enough to be known as needing good, extra competent psycho-therapy in order to heal. With Asppergers and lack of promotion, support, mentorship or the like, I have instead got sick from being outside and deceived and tortured worse than the criminal novels which I have no need to read.
If you'd be good enough to give me some advice, I'd be grateful and glad.
Have been wondering how they have let someone like me go unused in society. MIght the answer be that I am too inconvenient, too little smooth and accustomed to social interactions or would cost alittle to habilitate, or they don't like my healthy lifestyle, or they fear I'd demand damages? but if they had acted much sooner, that damage´s would not be as big as they will now.
Real lawyering has little to do with memorization and everything to do with the ability to find answers and solve problems. The only time you have to have amazing memory in law is taking law school exams in a closed book setting that requires you to have memorized the rules or concepts to answer an exam question. But even then that plays a portion of things with the key still being the ability to spot and solve problems through an understanding and application of a rule or case. The ability to communicate effectively and think critically is an immensely more valuable skill as an attorney than having a photographic memory. But as with everything in this show the focus is on things that aren’t real but make a more entertaining story. It’s a much better dramatic story to have a genius character who is a savant with a photographic memory than it is to show that a character always has legal resources available to them and needs to be able to think of all sides to an issue and research things to make a strong argument.
The show almost demonstrates that when even though he’s a genius he can’t do the most basic of tasks like filling out a subpoena. Because despite the exciting theory of lawyer genius the bulk of being s successful attorney hinges on boring practical stuff nobody ever sees then it ever does on the flashy stuff laymen associate to the profession from what they’ve seen in entertainment. Even if you had a photographic memory depending on your memory versus deeply checking resources in your work would be malpractice in the grand scheme of things. But again the show has almost no basis in reality because reality is sadly boring if we’re honest.
i love that at 16:00 he perfectly describes louis, and harvey’s way of going about things.
Suits starts off quite strong, the fear of mike getting caught actually felt somewhat real. I watched up until season 6 but it was really a background show for me
Objection: Having Proctored LSAT I can tell you that 1) there is no way that everyone just deposits their test on their way out; they're collected. 2) Hats aren't allowed in the testing area. 3) All participants are required to present a government id to even get IN the testing room so he'd have to have lots of fake ids. 4) proctors escort testers to bathrooms and even IN the bathroom to prevent meetings. 5) All of the doors to the testing facility are locked, so even if he managed to get in, he wouldnt get out.
Side note, proctoring an exam is AWFUL!!! When you're in there taking the test, the time flies by. When however you are WATCHING people take a test, for several hours, and you're not allowed to talk, read, use your phone, fall asleep or do ANYTHING it is really REALLY boring. The testees may feel trapped, but the proctors are the real prisoners.
So, be nice to your proctors.
3. If i recall correctly he used the ID from the guy he cheated for (they looked similar).
5. He left when everyone else leaves. So i assume that at the end of the test the doors will get open, or do you hold the students as prisoners for ever? :)
"Remain seated until all the tests are gathered." *once all the tests are in the proctor's hands* "You are dismissed."
This might get buried in the comments, but, my older brother is a lawyer as well and we love watching these. Always nice to see him laugh at how you break these down! Great job. Earned my sub!
Objection: Your haircut is extremely similar to Harvey's, ergo, he is just as good a lawyer as you are.
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Sustained!
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Flawed analogy. You should take tests on gmat club or Veritas prep. 😁 jk
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I love how the title can have more than one meaning: suits as in suit that you wear and suits as in lawsuit :)
Just wanted to say that is a damn impeccable suit you're wearing.
TyrfingDainslef it is very Harveyesque
Everybody looks good in a suit
@@jezzaw09 not at all
@@DHAGSFU yes everyone does, just that the suit needs to be expensive enough.
@@anupraj18 most fat man dont
I think Mike is not pretending to be a summer-associate but an actually lawyer that just graduated at law school.
Mike goes to prison in season 6 for fraud and not being an actual lawyer
You are right. The law firm only hires associates that GRADUATE from Harvard.
Right answer: wrong reason. Harvey is looking to hire a new associate. Not summer associate. Associate would be someone who recently or is graduating from law school and has passed or will take the bar soon. If Harvey were looking for a summer associate, they would not need to be in the bar yet but would be still enrolled in law school
A summer associate, as explained at the outset, is someone who is a 2L still in law school. Essentially the 2L is doing a summer internship at a law firm.
Objection : You are not a judge, and therefore you can neither sustain nor deny an objection
By that logic, how are you objecting? You are not a lawyer.
@@anandpatwardhanathialy8805 Got me there....Good point
Well he *does* occasionally say: "I will be the judge of them.", so...there?
So everyone here studies law to comment, lol?
Anand Patwardhan Athialy What if he had been a lawyer?
GREAT response here. Love it. They were always shady. I just finished Season 9 and I was struck by the whole Faye thing...she was totally RIGHT about EVERYTHING! All of her criticisms and suggestions/warnings for the firm were exactly what they needed to hear. But of course they had to fight to get rid of her, so they could keep being shady lawyers. Still, a great show, entertaining for nine seasons.
1:39 It's funny because "escrow" is pronounced exactly like the french word "escroc" (yeah, that "c" is silent) which means "scammer".
Neat. Given how long it takes to get money back from an escrow, they are probably closer to escargot. AMIRITE? I'LL BE HERE ALL WEEK.
i thought the same thing given that the romanian word for scammer is also "escroc"
Iatropulus Luca Nothing surprising, romanian has tons of french words, you guys are even members of Francophonie...
If I ever get sued, I would want this guy as my lawyer. Someone this dedicated to ethical obligations sounds awesome!
Right me too i wonder where he is located
@@iyana8234He said he did his interview in Los Angeles so i guess LA
Actually, despite exaggerations and lawyer jokes, most lawyers have to be that concerned with ethical violations because they cost attorneys their careers every day.
Its only good to have that if you're in the right
This channel has completely changed my perception of what a lawyer is and how the law works. Thank you so much for your content!
Where have such videos gone? This is 25 minutes of pure entertaining information. Very well done.
This channel is going to blow up. You're very suited to being in front of a camera, no pun intended...
His patchy beard kills me every time. Just shave the damn thing it's distractingly bad
“What this person has done is called fraud” that shit made me weak😂😂💀💀💀
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I‘m glad I found your channel ☺️ I’m a practicing attorney in Germany and sometimes when I watch these shows I can’t help but wonder if this is really how things work in the states..... 😂
Erm.... you’re joking right XD
Loved the Series SUITS, but also loved the way you explained each area presented. Great Job! Congrats, I really enjoyed watching this video.
As far as I was aware, Mike was a 1st year associate not a summer associate.
but he was supposed to hire a summer associate. It's basically when a senior partner has an associate to help with the workload. But he didn't go to school so I don't think either one cared what his title was. I think that after you finish the summer you go back to uni and that's how you've finished your degree. and then you choose which firm you want to go to. But once again mike never went so who knows what his original title was
@@Khushi-gm8ex no, he went there to hire a 1st year associate, not a summer associate.
@@kwalshe15 yup truth bc louis litt hires all summer associates
@@Khushi-gm8ex no Harvey was supposed to hire a first year associate
I googled "how to fill out a subpoena". It took about 10 seconds...
you just need jesus
sustained!
It probably took you 10 seconds because you were being lazy about it and taking it slow. The way Mike was acting here was like he had never hear the word "subpoena" or the word "Google" for that matter!!!
Do you guys even know what a "subpoena" is?
@@seanim6846 Yep... or at least I suppose it was discussed sometimes while I was getting a degree in Law (the memory is sketchy: drunk most of the time), although not in the US so I am sure there are differences.
Do YOU know what a "subpoena" is?!
OMG, James, please keep watching Suits! It was hilarious listening to your commentary, you're unwittingly describing the entire show! Keep watching! You'll love it (I think!)
2:20 😭 the way he causal says fraud got me
I didn't think the hotel scene would be realistic. I thought the show was just trying to hype up the pilot. I am genuinely surprised that's how interviews are conducted.
Thanks, exactly my thoughts! When I watched it first, I was like "Yeah, sure. Trying to be all cool and fancy here."
not just lawfirms. I used to model and auditions and meetings with foreign agencies were often in hotels.
Business school too.
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It makes sense that foreign agencies conduct their interviews in hotels, but I would have never have thought that a New-York-based firm would conduct interviews in a hotel in new york.