Most powerful ebike motor tested - can anyone beat it?

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  • @Area13ebikes
    @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว +10

    What bike has more power than this?

    • @mititeimaricei
      @mititeimaricei ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You've lost weight! How?

    • @jonspeak2807
      @jonspeak2807 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ristretto 512 with CYC mid drive??

    • @DoctorDrunkhobo
      @DoctorDrunkhobo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gotrax agreed with you the R2 manual tells you how to turn up the gears they recommend 5th if I leave it in 5th starting from a stop it pops a small wheelie

    • @BakedAndAwakePodcast
      @BakedAndAwakePodcast ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mititeimaricei I came to the comments for this. I was astonished at our Man's appearance. Hoping he is healthy and well.

    • @geraldkoth654
      @geraldkoth654 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mine, 3000 watt Cyclone. But that took lots of work to make work without tearing up bicycle style parts. I have to limit torque. If I could adapt small motorcycle chain and sprockets it would be a lot better.

  • @rndorseg
    @rndorseg ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Not to open a can of worms but I believe that battery voltage and current should be included in the testing it wouldn’t be too hard to do with a DVOM and a clamp on amp meter. Much more information to calculate controller efficiency, optimal gear ratios for battery life / extended range.
    Anyways love the channel great content !!!!

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just wait... I think some dyno upgrades will be very enlightening on top of what it can already do.

  • @JahBlessd
    @JahBlessd ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I recently received this same eBike and I couldn't be more pleased with its performance. Nothing climbs like it and for the price it's hard to beat. Thanks Biktrix ❤

    • @JohnDoe-yoyoyo
      @JohnDoe-yoyoyo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree that it's a great bike but the price is a bit steep .... starting at $6000 USD ($7250 CAD) is on the high side IMO.

    • @JahBlessd
      @JahBlessd ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @JohnDoe-gn5bc Hey, a car has four tires, a motor, and seats.. yet not every car is priced the same. Live within your means.. I can't afford a Lamborghini but I certainly don't tell people it costs too much. The XD has technology and parts built-in that set it apart from the rest. I saw value.. I made purchase.
      I've yet to find an owner of an XD who regrets their purchase!
      I love my eBike.

    • @JohnDoe-yoyoyo
      @JohnDoe-yoyoyo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JahBlessd Thaks for the reply :) I'm glad that you are enjoying your purchase. I don't disagree that the XD DUo is a great bike but at that price I would expect a torque sensor motor not a cadence sensor and something more substantial than a 17 ah battery. Plus the XD is heavy at 80+ lbs. I guarantee that my CYC X1 Pro on my specialized 29 er' will outperform the XD on every trail or in a flat out drag race and my range is twice that of the XD (I run a 72 volt, 28 Ah = 2016Wh vs. 52 volt, 17 Ah = 884 Wh) and is over $2000 cheaper. Stay safe on your speed demon.

    • @JahBlessd
      @JahBlessd ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @JohnDoe-gn5bc I can see you're proud of your diy upgrade kit. I had to look it up because I thought you actually had an ebike, not just a conversion kit. How do you find clearance after adding a motor beneath the frame? Is your kit the Gen 3 or are you dealing with the issues of previous models? For those who have a bike and want to get ebike features I think an aftermarket DIY kit like yours is a good option.
      Personally, I don't like the look and although the XD duo is a heavy bike, I wouldn't know because I own the "Eagle 2" which is 47 lbs and a bigger battery. It's not as big as yours, but I certainly would hate to look at that bag hanging from the frame like yours does. Hey, you might pass me in the short run with all that power but my bike was built specifically to handle 2300w of power thru a separate chain; yours was not and runs a HUGE risk of chewing up your gears and components.
      I'll stay safe on my speed demon, and I pray you do the same!

    • @JohnDoe-yoyoyo
      @JohnDoe-yoyoyo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JahBlessd I have the Gen 3 with a little over 700 kms (435 miles) and haven't had an issue. Clearance is exactly the same because the motor is inside the triangle. There is no bike bag, I have a hard triangle battery that is mounted to the bottle holder mounts. All wires are internally run ... Casette is a Box Two which is specifically designed for ebikes. The XD Eagle is a really nice looking bike and Bikrix is a rock solid company with great support ... you chose wisely.

  • @bobbybecker80
    @bobbybecker80 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'd like to see a Wired 60V bike tested.

  • @charleswarwick4849
    @charleswarwick4849 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree with most other people that it seems perfect for typical ebike use, e.g. its better geared for hills over speed. Besides 40mph gets a bit sketchy anyway. Crazy design

  • @OldSloGuy
    @OldSloGuy ปีที่แล้ว +6

    its hard to see here without an x-axis annotation, but it appears that max power is in the 8 to 15 mph range. For most riders, this is the maximum usability range. A trip to the store and someone is not paying attention: This is when you want to twist the throttle and feel the results. If you want to trade that for more speed, use a smaller rear sprocket. However, most of us don't haul our bikes to the track and back to the garage. Its like horses, plow or race, different needs.

  • @DiogenesOfCa
    @DiogenesOfCa ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Even the dog wanted to see the dyno results.

    • @fattyman9133
      @fattyman9133 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I Didn't think it was a good idea to let the dog be so close to something spinning that fast.

    • @kevinburke1325
      @kevinburke1325 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@fattyman9133 the bike was in place and the dog was just sitting there and watching. Not dangerous at all. If the bike was moving, then I would have said something, but not with the bike literally standing there.

    • @fattyman9133
      @fattyman9133 ปีที่แล้ว

      The wheel was spinning. It would take just one second for things to go south. Maybe It makes me nervous because our dogs are such numbskulls.@@kevinburke1325

  • @GixrGuy
    @GixrGuy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Peace be with you! The Future of eBikes! Thank you for this🙏

  • @kevinnashskitchen3517
    @kevinnashskitchen3517 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Maybe only a new Wired Freedom or Fabulous Road Warrior can match that torque and speed. But the Road Warrior has dual Hubs. Or Amp Rides 1500 watt rear hub might match it close.

  • @gonerydin4225
    @gonerydin4225 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This would be much more interesting combined with a road test.

    • @notusingmyname2634
      @notusingmyname2634 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sadly our legal max is 500 watts and for registering homebuilt cant really be insured which is also unfortunately mandatory so theres just no legal way to do them. Kind of want to do one anyways and just jump the ditches and technically never touch the road, attach a hang glider to it as well im sure that would be much more legal

    • @gonerydin4225
      @gonerydin4225 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@notusingmyname2634 sucks to be you

  • @justinborysenko3885
    @justinborysenko3885 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Again amazed now I want to see the brand bikes and each of their performances. Upgraded controllers and batteries and what that provides as far as increases.

  • @superglidemustang
    @superglidemustang ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't let that doggie stand there.

  • @mr.monitor.
    @mr.monitor. ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Id say the gearing is perfect. Off the line torque is important for a bike with that much weight and single speed primary drive. You don't really need to be going 40 mph on a fat bike 😳 and hill climbing would be miserable with taller gears.

    • @Mash3OH3
      @Mash3OH3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree with this. There have been close calls where cars especially tuner cars. Try to make a left turn from a 4 way stop light. Knowing I had right of way on my homemade ebike. But my take off isn't as powerful as most cars.
      Having higher amps and high wattage motor can significantly mitigate situations like that if I'm able to take off first before the left hand turning driver can realize what happened.

  • @robertcornelius3514
    @robertcornelius3514 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think a lot of us were worried your dog was going to end up as a popped down pillow.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thankfully he's smarter than that.

  • @Altema22
    @Altema22 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Does the challenge include custom bikes? A personal friend has a Spark Cycleworks Bandit that will do a verified 91mph 😉
    I think the bike that you have helped me with in the past would come pretty close to this. It now has a 96amp controller and an internally modified Bafang that peaks at 3,000 watts. I climbed a 34% toboggan run with it yesterday, and had to lean over the handlebars to keep the front wheel on the ground, lol.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Aftermarket bikes are on the board too!

  • @rabbithomesteading3797
    @rabbithomesteading3797 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im curious how a wired would do. If display is right, says upwards of 2300 watts at times. I hope Wired sees this and lets you run one. Cool video seeing real numbers not made up stuff! TY

  • @shahensayadian9253
    @shahensayadian9253 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I build a powerful mounting e-bike using cyc X1 pro gen 3 on Trek Marlin 6, with a 52 volt battery, I can reach 45 mph, and 3500W with an X6 stock controller, torque sensor, the best app interface, cyc claim this has 200nm of torque, I'm very interested to see the fact result on the dyno for cyc X1 pro or the other two model they have.
    Great videos keep up the, you are original

  • @johnphillips8088
    @johnphillips8088 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Biktrix makes a great bike, I have one, and my favorite

  • @Deerpoo22
    @Deerpoo22 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have rhe Eagle 2 XD for hunting. I got the upgraded 25 AH battery and the battery life has been great so far.
    Id argue the point of the XD system is not the torque over its competitors.
    But rather the dramatically improved durability of the drivetrain. Huge motorcycle sprockets and a Go Kart chain. Its not wearing out anytime soon.
    Great video man

    • @xtrck
      @xtrck 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How do you like it. I put down a deposit on the new FS version and can't wait.

  • @seven1three27
    @seven1three27 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great thing about Chinese made ebikes, Affordable and allowed the general public to adopt to them and made it so popular today. These bike's prices are crazy

  • @boblawrence1692
    @boblawrence1692 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I blown away you have dyno for bikes... love it

  • @jonspeak2807
    @jonspeak2807 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    More please 🙏 Thank you 😊

  • @torbanpeterson368
    @torbanpeterson368 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish we had a dyno like this when designing and building the bikes.

  • @talkingebikes
    @talkingebikes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd like to see some tests on the touted "250W" European mid-drive motors, like Bosch etc. Some of their claims are exaggerated.

  • @chimerabmx
    @chimerabmx ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review and tests. Our High Drive system can easily compete and likely beat the Biktrix on all metrics but our bikes are far less weight.

  • @josephpeters2367
    @josephpeters2367 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your dog seems to like the bike 😊

  • @PCBoardRepair
    @PCBoardRepair ปีที่แล้ว

    10:00 Kyle you need the battery voltage and current --power would make a good addition to your screen

  • @plokmko0
    @plokmko0 ปีที่แล้ว

    Re-gear is a must !!! Putting that much power to the ground in the dirt and snow needs to be tamed

  • @georgekrpan3181
    @georgekrpan3181 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love what you're doing with the dyno. I'd definitely gear the Biktrix up, but how? Is the left side chainring and cog ordinary bicycle parts? The left side chain certainly is not a bicycle chain. Is the chain pitch the same as a bicycle?

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't check the chain specs but biktrix has the info and other gears.

    • @georgekrpan3181
      @georgekrpan3181 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Area13ebikes Ok, good, they offer gearing options. Cheers!

  • @RedSinter
    @RedSinter ปีที่แล้ว

    🎉 Excellent...and a great way to grow your business. My last employer had a Test Kitchen that we maintained and arranged where possible for Any Mfg come in and test their formulas and refining their products. Tony even bought a Flash Freezer...Freezer for a specific customer. We had another edge as Tony and his father...sole owners between them hold 65 Patents for Large Scale Food Processing Equipment. We make or made, 99.9 percent of all crispy Taco Shells. It doesn't mater whos name is on the box the shell were from raw corn to crispy shells went through our machinery. The Taco fryer puts out 50k taco shells an hour. Of course thats just one item, one system, one basic part as a whole. We made a large potion of Potato chip cookers, roasting ovens...its a fairly big concern 3 continent's 6 Mfg Facilities, 5 divisions in the US. Plus Tony did or has for years setting up virtical integration with the purchase over the years of outside parts suppliers and their Mfg.

  • @gordonv2456
    @gordonv2456 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My Bafang 620 is rated at 1000W, 160NM and uses the gears on the cassette. Any comparison? I tried to find the best climber with a type 2 Ebike sticker.
    I imagine that 2-2/3 HP is a bit much for the tiny chains driving the typical cassette and a proper strength one would not fit the cassette. Why not put 2-2/3 HP in a hub drive if you are only using one gear and skip the expensive mid drive and extra heavy chain?. Maybe that is a big engineering problem. I would like to see road tests for climbing or see you come up with a way to add resistance to your tester to see if the torque curve will spread out under load.

  • @waltersmithat70
    @waltersmithat70 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always nice to see progress , but long way from bafang bbs02 motor.

  • @rich3317
    @rich3317 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just finished up my lighting Rods mid drive. 12,000 watt . 126v / 400amp. It’s a hand full.
    Would like to share a few pictures. But don’t know how on TH-cam.
    I do have a cargo bike I’m building now for my home in turkey. It’s a qs 205 5T hub with about 185nm. 100.8v. Battery is 5.3kwh. I’m a power junkie for sure. Not sure how to email you. But if you want more information? Let me know.
    Great video.

  • @johngalt97
    @johngalt97 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's the ballpark determined for a related question examined on Endless-Sphere forum years ago. You'd need a motor/controller/battery/drivetrain that could handle 1000+ Amps, just to get 750 Watts @ 1 RPM. Most ebikes don't make full 'legal' power at take-off.

  • @KtotheL
    @KtotheL ปีที่แล้ว

    I almost can't believe it's a bicycle... I still want my spaceship though.

  • @backcountyrpilot
    @backcountyrpilot ปีที่แล้ว

    I dyno’d dozens, maybe hundreds of dirt bikes on a Dynojet from 1994-2006.
    Installing a street tire makes an enormous improvement compared to a knobby,
    or even a trials tire. We ALWAYS installed a street tire.
    Gearing made very little difference on these 2&4 stroke engines, which have
    a “power band”. I assume it would matter even less on an electric motor.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think swapping them all the time would make me tired....

  • @AKJJSIM
    @AKJJSIM ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have you tested the Wired Freedom?

  • @lufknuht5960
    @lufknuht5960 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am puzzled by the statements about left & right sides having separate drives, so it seems you said, as if one side goes through the chain to derrailleur & the other direct to the rear hub somehow. I couldn't tell from the low resolution, quick look picture(s).

  • @ErnestMas
    @ErnestMas ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been recently researching Ebikes and wow!

  • @lukewalker1051
    @lukewalker1051 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A counterpoint or at least adjunct worth mentioning....
    I have a lot of experience with BBSHD both in stock form and hotrodded.
    One can extract 'a lot more' power out of BBSHD by virtue of its design robustness and the different available controllers that can push more amps through it than this motor which is more an unknown to get more than 2000 watts. An unmodified BBSHD can tolerate 4000 watts with a controller change and be 'a lot' faster than this stock bike and not a lot of money with a donor bike. .
    For those unfamiliar, Watts = Volts X Amps.
    Even in stock form, A BBSHD with stock 30 amp controller will put out 1700w peak and on the right bike hit close to 40mph with adequate gearing and right rider.
    For those who want to turn their ebike more into a motorcycle, the BBSHD can take 50 amps because it is such an overdesigned motor with tens of thousands of miles in the field with owners that never open them up to replace parts.unlike CYC's dubious reliability record in stark contrast. Yes, some maybe surprised the Chinese are beating German engineering and well undercutting them in price.
    With 4000 watts, A BBSHD can do 50 mph. All you need is a good strong 72v battery with 60a BMS or so and an aftermarket controller.
    Nobody knows if this Bitrix motor in this video can sustain 4000 watts reliably. Heat is the enemy and armature and stator mass matter...why the CYC Photon for example can take the watts the BBSHD can...the BBSHD is a larger heat sink.
    For those who want the best bang for buck fast ebike, build it. Mant tutorials available on youtube helping the home builder.
    Best of health Kyle and great to see you making videos.

    • @nc3826
      @nc3826 ปีที่แล้ว

      Incorrect..... You are not not quoting dyno figures are you? SMH... Have fun on your home builder soapbox....

    • @kmtnbike1117
      @kmtnbike1117 ปีที่แล้ว

      The owner of Biktrix states that the XD motor can put out 6K watts but the programming only allows up to 2000w. I run a custom build 72V BBSHD and I can blow my buddies XD away. XD is a nice bike though I would love to see a Lightening Rods motor on the Dyno.

  • @rantanplan7474
    @rantanplan7474 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    slap a rear suspension on that guy and we'll be all set up!

    • @tonym6633
      @tonym6633 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They just did!

  • @kdscrapping4452
    @kdscrapping4452 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice!! I am not a fan of mid drive , but this one needs a second look!!

  • @BillTheHawk
    @BillTheHawk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought the Biktrix Juggernaut 1000 from you a year and a half ago. It is the best bike I have ever had. Now you have another Biktrix that has a more powerful motor? Can my
    bike be upgraded and what would the cost be? Thanks, Kyle, great video.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think upgraded to this motor would make sense, but upgrading to a new bike is an option. :)

    • @BillTheHawk
      @BillTheHawk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, that is not going to happen. I love my Biktrix!

  • @ashegam
    @ashegam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would like to see you test a bike with a cyc gen 3 pro with the x12 controller.

    • @rich3317
      @rich3317 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought the cyc motor. ASI 2000. I was so disappointed. I removed it. Bought a lighting rods xl motor. Was cheaper and way more powerful. I bought his single speed setup. 219 go cart chain set up. No more shifting. And it is a gorgeous design.

  • @RossinBC
    @RossinBC 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In your opinion, would the XD be capable of towing a 400lb trailer up long mountain pass's in Washington, Oregon and California? I think this bike can do it? I would have 2 batteries but using one at a time while the 2nd battery charges using solar.

  • @namiix7365
    @namiix7365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i would love to see how the ristretto 512 fairs against this, given they’re using a cyc mid drive

  • @Timbodacious
    @Timbodacious ปีที่แล้ว +1

    powerful and fast BUT: Around $1,000 overpriced, A HARD TAIL with that much power is a dangerous butt buster, and you get the same performance with a bafang ultra combined with a 1500 watt rear hub motor on a single throttle for about $1500 less in cost.

  • @Ukiah.Spirit
    @Ukiah.Spirit 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just a little note to consider, Canadians like to be associated with beer and whisky, not maple syrup.

  • @00708046
    @00708046 ปีที่แล้ว

    Putting a larger gear will lower your torque and increase your speed . If you put a cassette of gears you would have different choices of torque vs speed but the motor torque might break your chain or cassette . Since the drive is on opposite side from gears side , that's not an option.
    Taking off fast with a larger sprocket will put more stress on the chain and maybe cause it to break.

  • @Iloveyounot
    @Iloveyounot 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just checked the price on Google, almost $6000. It is almost the price of a motorcycle.

  • @mikemathis3936
    @mikemathis3936 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing that I either missed or you didnt mention this time (which I think is important )is the nominal voltage of the battery. This ,to me,b is important relating toi top speed as well as the economics of buying batteries when comparing motors.
    Also I have a dumb q1uestion. I* neve3r4 run out of dumb questions. How much of the sound during the dyno run was due to the motor and how much from knobby tire?

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว

      52v nominal.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว

      The dyno is fairly quiet, mostly tire and motor noise.

    • @mikemathis3936
      @mikemathis3936 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you@@Area13ebikes

  • @guyrandom6151
    @guyrandom6151 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    80 nm seems low ? i see others rated way over 100nm i commonly see 160nm while shopping around . am I missing something ?

  • @cal82252
    @cal82252 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More power, torque and speed drains the battery faster. What kind of range will this powerful ebike get? My 300w 36v 20amper hr batt. ebike will go 105mi at 15mph, 54mi at 21mph and 35mi at 28mph (max speed).

  • @randymcpherson4619
    @randymcpherson4619 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to see what kind of readings the FLX blade 2.0 would get on your dyno test machine.

  • @keithproctor5559
    @keithproctor5559 ปีที่แล้ว

    When watching this on TH-cam, your audio is really low. Was that way in the last one too

  • @bassw1758
    @bassw1758 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could build that for a fraction of the cost using a 415 chain, put a sprocket on the rear wheel the same way they do with the 2 Stokes,

  • @kevinnashskitchen3517
    @kevinnashskitchen3517 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good throttle only too.. Nice!

    • @gordonv2456
      @gordonv2456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a moped or motorcycle. I checked the conversion of power from KW to HP and 750 KW is 1 HP. In most states in USA, the max power for a bike is 1 HP. 2000 KW is 2-2/3 HP and I'm not sure if that is beyond moped specs or not. Also, a type three bicycle can't go faster than 28mph and can't have a throttle. My 1000W Bafang mid drive got a type 2 sticker because it is limited to 20mph. CSC is where I found my bike and it was on sale for $2000 recently.

    • @kevinnashskitchen3517
      @kevinnashskitchen3517 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gordonv2456 nobody cares what bicycles have for electric power. If it has pedals and looks like a bicycle it's no matter

  • @lufknuht5960
    @lufknuht5960 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think a lot of ebikes are demonstrated on TH-cam at more watts. Not that they are street legal. The Aipas A8 mid-drive eTrike is rated at 130 NM, but I suspect that mid-drive eBikes give a false NM torque, giving the torque through the lowest derailleur gear. It seems common for mid-drive eBikes to have specs with higher NM than hub motor eBikes -- I assume becs of listing the torque through the lowest gear

  • @stevenbrown5695
    @stevenbrown5695 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pedals as a generator Bost for over drive etc.

  • @richardolsen1989
    @richardolsen1989 ปีที่แล้ว

    R22 Everest edition beats this. I am glad someone besides optibike now makes their own motor!

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว

      We'll see! (I hope anyway, I've asked...)

  • @jonspeak2807
    @jonspeak2807 ปีที่แล้ว

    🎉 BRAVO BIKTRIX!! For manufacturing in North America!!😮😮🎉🎉😊

  • @skytoll1
    @skytoll1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Our F-TRIKE is breaking TRUCK HUBS!! The FLYWHEEL TRIKE is human powered with a 72 volt golf cart motor used to start up the driveline. The F-TRIKE has 22 inch car rims mounted on a heavy steel frame with a 2 inch tow hitch. We can pull a 4,000LB trailer. The F-TRIKE weighs about 2,000LBS empty. 💣💣💥💥

  • @backcountyrpilot
    @backcountyrpilot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That split-roller chain looks sketchy.

  • @darinsmith2458
    @darinsmith2458 ปีที่แล้ว

    i will have to check out your other dyno tests.. i have seen a couple bikes that say that they have 120 nm of torque..

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว

      That will be very hard to get at the wheel. I'm sure I'll get something but not likely anything with pedals.

    • @darinsmith2458
      @darinsmith2458 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Area13ebikes I will look for your other dyno tests..

  • @richardhenry1969
    @richardhenry1969 ปีที่แล้ว

    My question is this type of motor better or two hub motors? I’d like a bike for off-road but might need to drag some gear along. I’m a mechanic but I’ve no experience with EBikes. I just like the idea I can go places they won’t let a gas bike go. What should I look to start with a kit or something else?

  • @mikemarion2154
    @mikemarion2154 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been thinking of getting the AREA13 freewheel tool! My wife's bike bike has a SUTTO branded 500W hub motor that has the same plug as my 750W BAFANG RM G0900.750.D/DC. But her bike's motor cable does route through the freewheel. The Area13 web page does not seem to list the clearance of the tool (how many mm is the opening/hole?)

  • @mikemorgan8588
    @mikemorgan8588 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just to be clear: torque sensors are not included in the results of motor torque. Muscle power isn’t included in these results. Many analog bike riders still confuse e bikes with regular bikes.

  • @drewduncan3436
    @drewduncan3436 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Area13ebikes, do you allow in this comment section any links that i can get permission to share here,man has built his own type of bike

  • @DaninVA
    @DaninVA ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty insane! 😁

  • @brentpolk8331
    @brentpolk8331 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need a tut on balancing your rim with a fat tire 26"...

  • @nealmyers2735
    @nealmyers2735 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that's a fast ebike wow

  • @Michaelwoods-d4k
    @Michaelwoods-d4k ปีที่แล้ว

    How would you Dyno my Defender S pro from Eunorau ?
    It’s got all wheel drive, so do you just double the figures for a 750 w Bafang ?
    Thanks for the recommendation in your video for defendending Kevin’s Defender 😊
    Mine loves to run on the dunes 😂

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Run each wheel independently and double the figures.

  • @Creeperkiller61
    @Creeperkiller61 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now if i can get that in 72 volt 10kw+ form and a 40 ah or better battery that i can fits in a cannondale caad

  • @rodolfobaliga7577
    @rodolfobaliga7577 ปีที่แล้ว

    That bike should be test in actual with load, that will be the accurate testing to obtain the maximum speed.

  • @rickespy7464
    @rickespy7464 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is amazing!

  • @tjwa103
    @tjwa103 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude how did you lose all that weight...?

  • @KurtElliott
    @KurtElliott ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got to tell my brother about this video!!!

  • @DonaldMays
    @DonaldMays ปีที่แล้ว

    E-bikes are redeveloping into motorcycles in some cases, in unrelated converting a freewheel motor plate to a cassette body plate, do you have access to the plate i see alot of the middrive ebikes destroying 11/12 tooth gear. i know you can repace that gear on the freewheel but it does not solve the issue, there are more choices if you upgrade to an 8speed cassette and better quality

    • @Mash3OH3
      @Mash3OH3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a huge misconception because when it comes to electric motors. It comes down to how you design your bikes.
      You're literally gonna be comparing combustion engines to electric motors?
      But in your mind. "If it goes fast then it's a motorcycle"
      That's just stupid.
      I designed my home made bike on a bike frame that's half bmx and half mountain bike.
      Judging an electric bike based off speed alone is not enough anymore.
      Because last I checked ebike motor isn't loud and doesn't produce nearly as much emissions than even walking or ice engines. Less parts to maintain. Does bother the neighbour's.
      My bike can do 40mph. But it all comes down to the rider. I have throttle control. And self discipline. I don't do 40mph on public trail but if there's a bike lane on the road I'll go 40.
      It's a motor on a bike frame. So you have to ride it like a bike

    • @DonaldMays
      @DonaldMays ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mash3OH3 go look at motorcycles and how they began as bikes. The first motorcycles had less hp than the bike just tested and did not go as fast. By legal definition, you are not riding a bicycle. you are riding an electric motorcycle. the police are getting educated and they will enforce the laws eventually and when they do it will be the end of the wild west for noncompliant riders.

    • @Mash3OH3
      @Mash3OH3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @DonaldMays
      How about you go look at
      Zooz bike 1200 vs Live wire.
      The live wire is a fullt fledged electric motorcycle DESIGNED with suspensions and weight like a motorcycle. That can push 100mph
      While the zooz bike is on 24inch tires bmx style frame that can potentially do 40mph.
      So how tf you gonna say they're similar dude?
      Open your eyes man. You can't classify one in a specific category anymore.
      The livewire is an electric motorcycle
      The zooz 1200 is an electric bike.
      Not the same

  • @groovr22
    @groovr22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any chance you could do a dyno test on a Wired Freedom..?

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว

      Tell them to send one my way.

  • @garybourke468
    @garybourke468 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome ebike. Wish I could afford it.

  • @robertovaldes6232
    @robertovaldes6232 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you test the Aniioki AQ 1777 bike

  • @Mash3OH3
    @Mash3OH3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm thinking designers should focus on heat dissipation than performance.
    Cause how you gonna be giving such power motors yet over heats and then you LOSE performance?

  • @Lexicon_
    @Lexicon_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Should you not be using a fan to assist with the cooling during these tests?

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really needed for short runs like this. Controllers would overheat from regular use if they could do a short dyno run.

  • @ericellis4948
    @ericellis4948 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can I purchase one of these mid drive babies?😅 id like to put it on one of mine and see what she does 😊

  • @key39075
    @key39075 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this "mid-drive" motor use bike's gearing or it's only using its own chain and sprocket? If it's not using the gearing, probably many would prefer a hub motor.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only using its gearing not the pedal side. The advantage is center mounted weight and the ability to change gearing to suit your needs, less rotating mass too.

  • @ataksnajpera
    @ataksnajpera ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you just stick to metric system? You already use kW for power so why not use Nm for torque at the same time?

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because then it forces mph to kmh

    • @ataksnajpera
      @ataksnajpera ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Area13ebikes km/h also belongs to metric system so it all makes sense!
      It is odd when americans mix units like that. Power in metric system, torque in non-metric system and so on.
      It does not make sense. Keep it simple and only use metric system units.

  • @chrislatchem1854
    @chrislatchem1854 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very interesting but out of my price league

  • @richardolsen1989
    @richardolsen1989 ปีที่แล้ว

    Put a rholoff speed hub on it and now you have gears with the motor.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว

      The motor chain drives the left side sprocket and turns the wheel directly. A rohloff would still only be usable with the pedals.

  • @DavidWolf-ue7ij
    @DavidWolf-ue7ij ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The important question is: what is your dogs name?

  • @jongonegone1262
    @jongonegone1262 ปีที่แล้ว

    half the people leave because no horsepower rating. should be included by now with all electric bikes.

  • @nevamind932
    @nevamind932 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!

  • @DavidWolf-ue7ij
    @DavidWolf-ue7ij ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I too love the not made in China motor.

    • @suli_jo
      @suli_jo ปีที่แล้ว

      Almost every motor are made in china, this too

    • @DavidWolf-ue7ij
      @DavidWolf-ue7ij ปีที่แล้ว

      The Biktrix XD motor isn’t just designed in Canada, it’s built there, too. The team certainly prides itself on the local manufacturing, as Biktrix founder and CEO Roshan Thomas shared:
      I’m proud of my team for their steadfast efforts on bringing this project to life. We’re constantly striving to bring manufacturing back to North America.@@suli_jo

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว

      No... as stated in the video this is made in Canada.

    • @suli_jo
      @suli_jo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Area13ebikes you said it in the first 10 seconds😅

  • @dougnash6316
    @dougnash6316 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting that this bike is not listed for sale in Canada and it's not legal in the US or Canada.

  • @melvinbelcher7606
    @melvinbelcher7606 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much does it cost

  • @damaylaphoenix1155
    @damaylaphoenix1155 ปีที่แล้ว

    Frey beast , has 160 nm of torque, bafang m600 and m620 put out 160 nm of torque

  • @mamadjun
    @mamadjun ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really don't understand how some Americans consider these kind of bikes as e-bikes when they're actually electric mopeds?!! Yes, you can't pedal when you're riding a moped but these bikes should really be classified as "pedalling mopeds" as opposed to e-bikes.

    • @chargeriderepeat7024
      @chargeriderepeat7024 ปีที่แล้ว

      er a moped does have pedals..its in the name.
      People call scooters mopeds.

    • @mamadjun
      @mamadjun ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chargeriderepeat7024 Basically, if there's a platform where you can put your feet while you are riding, what you are riding is a scooter. If it's under 50cc then legally, at least here in Europe, it's classed as a moped. If it doesn't have a throttle then it's an e-bike.

    • @gordonv2456
      @gordonv2456 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm from USA and I think most Americans here want to help the country "Go Green" but they want the power of a motorcycle for their bike. They don't consider how things would mesh together on shared use trails with 160lb elderly walkers sharing the trail with 300lb riders on 100lb bikes going 40mph. These bikes should stay on the roads or on private lands for safety reasons.
      I'm 300lb and I shopped for the best climber to help me get up the 500ft elevation climb to get to my home from town.

    • @mamadjun
      @mamadjun ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gordonv2456 It's great to hear that there's a desire in the USA to go green and promote eco-friendly transportation options. If what you're saying is indeed accurate then here in Europe we seemed badly informed about the prevailing politics in the USA. I assumed, apparently wrongly, that the Republican Party and the current favourite Republican front-runner for the Presidency of the United States couldn't give two hoots about the environment. In any event, your concern about the use of powerful electric bikes on shared-use trails is valid. Safety should always be a top priority, especially when people with different abilities and modes of transportation share the same space.
      Electric bikes can offer a fantastic alternative to traditional bikes for people who may have specific needs like tackling steep hills, covering long distances, or accommodating different body sizes. However, throttled e-bikes shouldn't replace regular exercise in order to partially address the problem of obesity both in the U.S. and the rest of the developed world but more so in the U.S. than any other country.

    • @gordonv2456
      @gordonv2456 ปีที่แล้ว

      I ride a bike for my health because my knees are so bad that I don't walk, run or hike much anymore.
      These high power Ebikes are coming out to replace gas powered motorbikes that pollute and cost more to operate because of high gas taxes and other regulation. We need simple rules that can be easily enforced like a speed limit for trails and sidewalks and leave freedom to build and ride what we want. @@mamadjun

  • @R-Imperial23
    @R-Imperial23 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are drastically over estimating the loss in efficiency of hub motors.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว

      The figures I'm tossing out are from the hub motor manufacturers own data sheets.

  • @ballpoint7887
    @ballpoint7887 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lightningrods? modded bbshd?

  • @kevinfotsch6421
    @kevinfotsch6421 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try a AR Kepler.

  • @justinsane7128
    @justinsane7128 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you dnyo tested the Wired ebike?