40-50mph Ebike for $2,399? The truth behind the Power Goat
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Thank you for the review! Enjoyed those 360 angles as well.
Glad i went with the motor goat. Im over 240lbs and hit 48mph just fine on the way to work.
Curious what kind of range you are getting on a charge?
damn im only like 135 i feel i should top 50
How long was your delivery please
I love that long seat. If you add the second battery you gain a couple mph as well.
It’s crazy how you check for torque numbers while leaving everything to default on the settings. I believe you can increase the start strength to 5 since the default is only at 3.
The PAS levels don't work like that. You can set how 'fine' the adjustment is but when set to 3 the '3' setting is the same as the '5' setting when you have it set for 1-5, same when you set it for 9 levels.
Bruh. Did you even read my comment? Since when did I ever say anything about PAS? Look at other TH-camr and they’ll show you that the default settings for Start strength is 3 when you can increased it to 5. For him to test for torque, he should’ve gone to the setting and change the Start Strength
i will say you have the best reviews. the numbers don't lie and you could discourage people to buy since you sell ebikes but you never seem bias. I respect your integrity. thanks for the review.
You also have the security bar that goes through that hole right there underneath the rear part of the seat that goes through the whole of the back tire and locks in place so no one can roll your bike away
Ordered 2 goat power bikes in January, 1 arrived today, no word yet on the other one, I’m in the UK.
Hey Kyle, Great review, I love the Goat line...! Is there any way you could urge the ebike makers to include a kickstand safety switch wired into the brake lever kill switch circuit? After breaking my neck in 2023 over a forgotten kickstand during a high speed left turn, I've given it a lot of thought. I contacted a few ebike makers, but it occurred to me that you might have Way more influence with a lot of companies! It's been a year since my accident and the neck still hurts, but hey, I coulda been killed, right?
I literally was riding going 40 with my kick stand up. I realized halfway into my ride that I could have died very easily. After reading this I’m always double checking my kickstand.
@@MenAreNotOk Seriously... Without a safety switch on the kickstands, I think the stands should be removed from the bikes completely.
Great review Kyle. I thought when you showed the front turn signals putting out a little red dot down on the pavement and questioning why, I thought that would be great for people who ride at night (it would be an easy way to see you’ve left your turn signal on while riding). During the day, leaving a little flashing turn signal on wouldn’t be a problem, but at night, a definite plus (wouldn’t want to upset the cage drivers while they avoid you riding). I’ve ridden motorcycles for many years and know people riding a motorcycle with the turn signal on is upsetting to others).
Besides the meep meep horn maybe turn signals on the rear that match the front.
Oooh that’ll be a perfect platform to do a 72v build with a QS273 8kw motor, Fardriver ND961800 track version controller, & a 60+ah Molicel battery from Powerful Lithium. It’ll then do at least 80 for sure…
Kyle, thanks for this review. I ordered a Motor Goat back in April, similar specs to this one except for the battery (25 AH, and a 63v 17S battery that looks like a gas tank). It looks like I'll be able to cruise easily in the 30-35mph range.
I'm over 240 lbs and cruise in the 40-45 mph range.
@@F.O.GFatOldGuy I'm north of that, by almost 100lbs at the moment.
The motor goat V3 and the power goat V2 are getting an all-in-one super battery that will fill the entire void so you won't have to buy an extra battery you can just buy one big battery and it will have a big goat head cut out right in the middle of it and it looks pretty kick-ass. It should be available in the next couple months or so
Interesting, do you have any idea how many AH(Amp Hours) the battery would be rated for?
Where’d you hear that lol
and weigh 90 lbs :)
I'd love it if u could get ur hands on the new wired (2024 just arrived) and or E-cells 5 star and dyno them
Yes! That would be a very popular video. Many many people are curious about the results of that comparison. I think we would see that the wired freedom is putting down more power than the ecells 5 star and those results are something that would have a huge impact on sales for the winner at the expense of the loser.
What tires are you suggesting for bikes like this? CST Scout, Veetire Huntsman, Veetire Sppedster, Heb Viperess, Heb Allscape… or just go for moped tires like the Michelin City Grip 2? Have the CST Scouts now with Tannis Armour.
Any advice would be appreciated. It’s for on road only.
Thanks!
At this speed only DOT approved motorcycle tires are safe, but then you need the rims and spokes to go with them or you risk breaking rims due to the centrifugal force of the extra weight of the tires
Another nice review. I always appreciate the cynosure test a/k/a the marketing lie detector.
p.s. Been with you since the Bolton days. My son is riding the aventure(?) I bought from you way back when.
Hope you’re feeling ok.
Dyno became cynosure? Damn ai! You got the general idea.
Nice video do you think the motor can handle more amps pulled from it like a 80amps?
Walfisk has an Ultra model of the eT7 Black Warrior with a 3000w motor and a 60v 45amp hour battery. Buying mine next week. You should review it. Its close to this price point, and you did say you wished the bike had more power.... now it does.
Nice I’m in yuba county close by to your shop!
Come take it for a spin!
Come take it for a spin!
Please do a follow up or comparison with the Eahora Chopper! We need more videos on that bad boy. I heard their new model is upgraded with a 14” and 13” tire to raise it up a bit.
When does your scooter video drop? Thanks!
I will have another video coming soon on the Eahora Chopper - update on licensing, registration, etc. I think I will definitely compare the chopper and the scooter - I could possibly throw the goat in the mix...
Been looking closely at this bike! Please 🙏 review the Roadrunner Pro?
You can adjust PAS to 3, 5 or 9 levels, you also need to adjust power boost level to 5 it comes default on 3 so you dyno on not full power I believe. Also did you test with the updated controller? If not may want to run it again with the upgraded controller and the full power mode.
How can I adjust to those levels?
Noone is talking about the extraordinary wait time so I willl been since start of aptil and still waiting 😢
I ordered mine late March; it arrived a few days ago. Your time is coming fairly soon.
I ordered mine in January got it late may. But I think as time gose on goat bikes are catching up to orders. This is a amazing deal and as more people catch on the more demand and wait times are to be expected but it's definitely worth the wait.. I love my 2 power goats. I've owned at least 5 similar style ebikes over the past 7 years and this bike absolutely sets it self apart from everything I've owned including the super 73 rx. Nothing compares when not even considering price..
can you please test the new 2024 wired freedom, it’s got tons of new upgrades and may rival the goat or new ecells 5 star! ty
Hey Kyle...yes the presentation is good. But for some reason, I'm sure psychology, I don't like the wasted space taken up by the front of the seat. I'd prefer the Tank like bag on the Wilfisk and the frame 😂 annoys me. Otherwise yeah, cool power, torque, etc. Maybe that possible 50 is downhill. 😊 Funny you brought up the saddle as I originally wrote my response before I got to the part in your comments. And yeah, I'd like wing rear turn signals like in the Front with audible notification there on. I do like the tire setup. I wouldn't mind a 5 inch on the rear. And yep rear pegs need to lock up. Also, do the rear axle shafts extend enough for a trailer? 😂 The Horn I was going to ask, but you checked it out.
Without your review most people wouldn't know this is a great option against the graffiti x. Plus I would cut the Saddle and reupholster it .
Major word of advice when you are getting the motor goat V3 or the power goat V2 or even the billy goat make sure that you go and check every single bolt 100% and tighten all of them and I would also suggest getting some blue Loctite and putting it on all of the threads and then tightening them down solid because even the kickstand bolts aren't tied and you don't want to be riding a bike with loose bolts and those are turn signals that are flexible and it has turn signals on the front and the back
sweet dyno bro, how did you get one for ebikes?
Nice video!!! Would you pick this bike over Revv1 FS?
also between these 2 bikes
What's the range? Thank you!
Do those fenders look molded or 3d printed to U.
The bikes are over a hundred pounds around 1:10 depending on if you have a single battery or dual batteries also you can change the strength of the brake stoppage from off to weak to strong and you will notice a big difference when you put it on strong by holding down the plus and negative for more than 2 seconds
I've been wanting to see a comparison between the Goat bikes and the Grafitti X. One thing I would point out is that the X also has a much bigger battery. That also helps justify the higher price to some degree. Now how about a race between the two?
I’m 6,4 270lbs …. I’m averaging an easy 40 mph depending on head wind and incline I was able to get 45 and with a little down hill 48-49. This bike is great
you need to review the ErIde pro ss 2.0 versiom
Cool bike at a very reasonable price, built with quality components, too! Great review and baseline test. The entire e-bike industry would benefit from having standardized testing...if only for comparison of safety features, duh. My only suggestion for this bike would be to replace the bike's dual shock configuration with a monoshock configuration. 😊
That seat is 3 ft long I cut off the first foot and sold it up and it looks fantastic and now I have about a foot and a half of open space in front for storage it's just too long and my motor goat I have for me for when I just want to see single ride but even after taking a foot off of the power goat V2 3 ft long seat I can still have somebody ride with me or even my 3 and 1/2 year old granddaughter who absolutely loves going for rides on both of the bikes
If you hold the plus and negative button for more than 2 seconds you'll go into the settings, then go and hit everything to the Max and then you'll get those top speeds you're only going up to 3:00 when it goes all the way to 9:00 and its 3,000 watt at that number but you don't have the settings set correct
Mine goes to 31 1/2 and I only paid $833 amyet G60 2024 sells on eB-y1000 watt, they have a speed test on the amyet g60 on TH-cam, right it down like that you will find it 32 MPH
You can change the 'boost gear' to 5 to unlock speed PAS levels 4 & 5. Also, to fix the speedometer just change the tire size in the settings to about 29.2. You missed so much in this review, but I hope you revisit it after playing with the settings! You may even want to try it with the second battery added!
How fast can I go with level 5?? I need a tire size 29.2??
Review the MGV3. With the 17s battery setup and top charge of 71.4 volts, its a bit faster.
That's a nice bike for what it cost, for sure. Don't see to many 60v ebikes. *thumbs up*
I like the look of the Power Goat and the price is right for what you getting but the Graffiti X in my opinion would be the better bike for more money. On paper both bike's look about even but from what I've seen from another reviewer on his channel that's not the case. The Graffiti X smoked this bike off the line every time and including when it gave the Power Goat a head start. Also the Graffiti X is a better built bike with quality parts and it looks better too. But what I can say is either of these bike's are a better buy then any of the Super 73's models hands down and both these bike's will be enjoyable to ride.
Yeah watched a review and the Graffiti smokes the Power Goat. The goat is a nice bike for the money, but it not built like the Lyric which has heavy duty everything.
Nice bike, Kyle, have you ever talked to eCells Ebikes? They have 60v 26" power house bike called the Five Star that i would love to see what does on the Dyna, Call them ask for David I bet he would like to know what the number are as well.
It has 110 Newton of torque it's all on the website so it's already listed and you can just go there and get the stats
Nice !!
All bikes and parts are on back order. I would never do business with a company that can't keep stock. Good luck finding parts for it.
I bought this bike from you guys after watching this review lol
It's actually 17s 62.9v battery nominal and 71.4 fully charged
You're referring to the stock tank style battery on the Motor Goat, the Power Goat is 16s
@@LeeAyzahn I thought they both have same voltage I may be wrong but I will ask them
@@oldmanebikes8392 They covered this on thier facebook page on June 8th. Basically the Power Goat and Billy Goat use the 16S battery, but orders shipped after late June/early July will be getting the upgraded 17S like the Motor Goat.
I can confirm this bike is 67v fully charged.
@@Area13ebikes yes I tryed finding info on there website but only the power goat shows anything on voltage but I messaged them to find out but you just did. Thanks bud I'm going to message you on messenger I want to let you know something about the company I now work for Bigniu.
Ordered 2 Goat Power Bike 7 months ago, 1 turned up but cannot be charged because the charger is broken the other one has gone missing ! There is no tracking or anything ! I feel like the good reviews are from people being given bikes for free because nothing about the experience I have had is worth a good review.
(Also I got kicked out of the fan group for mentioning these issues, again it’s ran by influencers & people with free bikes)
I just bought one friday and bryson on their sales team got me set up fast. It ships Monday morning
It is not 0 through 3. Hold down the plus and the minus at the same time and you will go into settings then you can go into start Speed and you can set that all the way up to five and then you can go down to max speed and set that all the way up to nine and then go to the miles per hour and set it at 100% And then you won't go from 0 to 3:00 you'll go from zero all the way to 9 and hold on to your pants cuz you will shit yourself when you launch off at that speed in fact it's so fast you might wreck, so I would say start off at 3:00 and then hit the plus and keep going up until you hit nine and then you'll be at Max Speed but you definitely don't have the settings all the way up yet
Would love it if you did a review on the goat hulk scooter next
I hit 3000 Watts on my motor goat V3 and my power goat V2 every time I hit the throttle
I sure wish these moped style E-bikes would allow a full leg extension while pedaling.
Goat bikes have an optional plate which lifts the seat, for those who want additional leg extension. For me, the 33 inch seat height is just about perfect.
These style ebike are designed in a way that pedaling is secondary only . They are meant to be used with throttle only . E-bikes with adjustable seat post are for proper pedaling where pedaling is first and throttle is secondary . So just depends on what one wants from an e-bike
I took my back fender off never put the front one on I like it better I don't go driving in the dirt track
I like the design here best, bigger diameter motor= more torque, AND no spokes! Way more rugged.
Fast is great but I'm almost 300lbs. Can it get me up trails ?
It's got a strong motor I don't see why not
$833 total
It's weight limit is +400lbs as opposed to the X 250lbs so for a 300lbs person something to keep in mind
Its not for trails 😂
This bike is good for streets and regular trails, but not meant for off road/dirt trails
People keep comparing the Graffiti X to the Goat bikes. They are not the same. 3kw peak to 7.2kw peak or whatever it is.. of course, it's not gonna beat it. But for $2.5k, I get 90% of the Graffiti X without the $4k price. I love lyrics, but the comparing of the two bikes in the sense of which is better is ridiculous.
I like the tires
Hey Kyle. Speaking about the tires, are these tubeless? Tubeless would be a huge advantage on hub motor bikes; especially for those not mechanically-inclined to repair their flats…
@@tomvanbeveren9507you're asking me you need to ask him on the main page
I like that bike but the seat is just a little to goofy for me...
The frame is nice you can always throw a real motor in there lawn mower motor racing motor
All the way to 9 and if you set all the settings to maximum and the miles per hour to 100% you will hit 50 mph no problem
Looks like a great bike. But comparing it to Grafiti X is kind of wrong, in my opinion. The sale price on X was 3000 - 3600 if you Pre-ordered before it was sold out. I Pre-ordered mine for $3000 (i got lucky). The goat would be 3000 on sale with the second battery. So the price difference is not that much. Plus you have to consider everything else you are getting on X, like moto wheels and tires, belt drive, and more. I am not saying one bike is better than others. I just I do not think it is fair to compare these two bikes.
I have E-bike Cafe Cruise and goes 53Km hour + 80 miles
$ 2,000 Dollar
My Backpegs go sideways
You are the pioneer in the ebike world. Who else would be better to sell this product than Area 13? I'd buy one from you, and I think a lot of other consumers would too!!!
Why is everyone reviewing the v2 when the v3 is out?
Wasn't available when I released this.
@@Area13ebikes Jw! i was confused when alot of the videos were a month old. I just came across these bikes so it was confusing seeing v3 for sale with no videos
Lyric will never speak to you again 😂
Why? Our man Kyle is a fantastic content creator. We’re confident in our builds and we provide a lot of top quality parts that nobody else is offering, so why would we not love what Kyle creates for us all? When we were starting the company Kyle was one of the original content creators in the space and we listened to 100% of his podcasts. He’s only gotten even better now!
I'll be watching 👀 for the next lyric bikes too!
@@lyriccycles i was joking
Hot motor, not good for sales
The thing i like with the graffiti X is the combination of the direct drive motor and high watts paired with a large battery pack . I have a bit of experience with direct drive and these type motors require high watts to work right plus the added benefit of being very quiet
Upgrade the battery ad another motor 60+mph
I would never spend all over a thousand on a bike every year the price comes down
Well you're about to eat your words a tariff is coming for ebikes. But yes gas bikes are cheaper still but not by much this is the first bike to get close at bang per buck.
There are already cheaper budget friendly bikes available. But, if you want better quality with better components then you pay more. Just like a car.
Ebike are way cheaper in the winter
@magiricod I like to use the Honda Navi as the gas powered benchmark for comparison. For $1800 there isn't an electric bike out there that can touch the Navi in terms of performance and reliability.
@@randallhack4477 I mean if you DIY it you can get better performance for that price. This bike is a few hundred more and honestly is pretty close to the navi. The navi is about 10 mph faster
The Wild freedom goes 40 miles per hour it's only 2000,and ecells, same thing
Those are BMX style bikes, this is Moped style.
Wired freedom uses a geared hub motor with metal sided gears , powerful but quite loud . Huge 26x4 tires. Graffitix direct drive motor peaking at 7600 watts and very quiet . 20x4 tires
Probably never coming to Europe
You can order it to anywhere , check the website. 👍🏽
The companie makes it really hard to figure out the difference between the power goat and the motor goat.
Just came from there site . Looks like just a design difference only
@@jimjr9143 i think that’s it as well. But its not very clear, would love a comparison content but i cant seem to find any.
I own the power goat and to be honest you don't want to go any faster.
That is very true, especially on public roads. The traffic around you gets confused by the higher speeds and becomes somewhat unpredictable.
How long was you delivery please
Is it even possible gear a 20 inch wheel bike so that it doesn't ghost pedal at 40 mph?
No one is going to pedal at 40mph . Possibly 35-37 mph with a 60 tooth crank and 11 tooth freewheel
@@jimjr9143 There are 10 and 9 tooth cogs these days. They use a different kind of freehub though.
Correction, that's not a bicycle. It's unregulated and hits speeds over the 29 MPH (Class III) designation. I'd probably classify it as a class C or D moped. Maybe an unidentified vehicle under law unless those certain state laws specify it under legal definitions.
Insane price. Nah
The power goat is a bit faster than this bike.
The bike in this video is the Power Goat, you probably mean the Motor Goat
Both same rated power
@@jimjr9143 both have same rated power, but the Motor Goat has a slightly bigger default battery giving it a bit more speed
It's about time that these motorcycles require license, registration, insurance, and road tax!
Not a bike. If you get hurt there could be problems.
IS THIS AN HONEST COMPANY THO? OR ARE THEY JUST REBRANDING DESIGNS FROM ASIA LIKE THE HULK?? IN 2023 THE HULK WAS IN THE MARKET BY A DIFFERENT BRAND FOR 1650 TO THE DOOR (AND THAT WAS THE PLUS VERSION), AND NOW GOAT CALLS IT THE HULK "GOAT", AND SELLS IT FOR 2300-3250...PLUS THE VIDEOS THEY MAKE ON THEIR OWN CHANNEL SEEM UNPROFESSIONAL
Honest as the day is long. Based out of San Diego California you can communicate directly with Bryson, the owner of the company. Up front customer service was the primary reason for my decision to purchase a Power Goat.
Be prepared to wait though I ordered mine beginning of april still waiting only thing that makes me not fear being scammed is these reviews
@@LasVegasEbikes Good thing is Bryson communicates regularly with his customers on the the status of where the inbound freight is, delays and changes in order fulfillment etc. And if you join the FB owners group everyone shares their order numbers and when they get their shipping tracking numbers, so although there is a fairly long wait you are always in the (time) loop of where your order stands. I'm a firm believer in "All good things come to those who wait" so I just went an bought another style ebike to ride while i wait for my Goat