If you rotate the rifle 12 to 14 degrees to where the laser can be lined directly above the bore it can be zeroed to converge at close distance and then follow along the drop path of the bullet in a vertical line perfectly like a scope. Looking at it through the scope makes the laser dot easier to see but misaligns the drop of the round to the laser.
Subbed. Honestly good info. Also, your editing is spot on and your videos are 5m max, which is the sweet spot I find for gun YT videos. Hope your sub count blows up!
Wouldn't converging your IR laser to your optic at the maximum distance yield you the same holds and mechanical offset as your optic? Co-aligned lasers are also zeroed at a certain distance, so after that wouldn't using your IR laser only be a better option?
There are pros and cons to convergent and parallel zeros for sure. A converging zero with optic and laser do produce the same holds at distance to a point, but because the laser is offset to the side, it will start to require a wind as well as drop hold after the zero distance. This does not tend to matter for most use cases where the shooter has helmet mounted night vision and is using the laser at say, 150y or in, or really at all at CQB distances. However if you are using a converging zero for the laser and trying to shoot several hundred yards because your night vision is that good, then the holds can get pretty tricky compared to a parallel laser zero, where at any range, outside of something like hostage rescue super close range super small target stuff, you really just need a drop hold over. Great question thank you!!
@@IRTools Both the converging and parallel zero are offset from the barrel. With the adjusters from a IR lasers are very crude and probably @ 1moa or more it's very difficult to maintain a zero beyond your initial zero distance. Due to that the parallel zero has always veered off to one direction and will get worse the longer the distance to the target. I choose the overlap the IR laser to my optic at the furthest distance I can see with out using any ammo. It will be more precise at close targets and far targets because the 2 points will never be farther then the distance of the bore to your IR pointer and only get closer until they meet. If your bore to laser is 2.5" above and 2.5" to the left and meet at 1,000 yards the only thing you'll have to worry about is the initial mechanical offset at bad breath distance and your hold over at long engagements. I'll be the first one to admit lasers are not meant to be for precision, but you should be able to engage targets to the same distance as a red dot. I have engaged USPSA steel targets out past 400 yards using the converging zero. If you haven't tried it yet it's definitely to your benefit to see what it's actual capability is. Great content and I hope to see more from your channel. I also checked out your store and will be ordering soon. It's great to see a small business flourish in a very small market.
@@luguefamily1498 Great info and thank you! We are using converging zero's on everything now outside of some DMR stuff in 30Cal for exactly the reasons you laid out, we are also working on new zero targets as, a converging zero does not need much ammo to confirm. Thaanks again!
The bug or whatever was on the end of your can at the 3:42 mark 😂 rip
If you rotate the rifle 12 to 14 degrees to where the laser can be lined directly above the bore it can be zeroed to converge at close distance and then follow along the drop path of the bullet in a vertical line perfectly like a scope. Looking at it through the scope makes the laser dot easier to see but misaligns the drop of the round to the laser.
Would a MAWL work like this since it's more on the side? I'd assume so.
Subbed. Honestly good info. Also, your editing is spot on and your videos are 5m max, which is the sweet spot I find for gun YT videos. Hope your sub count blows up!
Thanks so much!
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Wouldn't converging your IR laser to your optic at the maximum distance yield you the same holds and mechanical offset as your optic? Co-aligned lasers are also zeroed at a certain distance, so after that wouldn't using your IR laser only be a better option?
There are pros and cons to convergent and parallel zeros for sure. A converging zero with optic and laser do produce the same holds at distance to a point, but because the laser is offset to the side, it will start to require a wind as well as drop hold after the zero distance. This does not tend to matter for most use cases where the shooter has helmet mounted night vision and is using the laser at say, 150y or in, or really at all at CQB distances. However if you are using a converging zero for the laser and trying to shoot several hundred yards because your night vision is that good, then the holds can get pretty tricky compared to a parallel laser zero, where at any range, outside of something like hostage rescue super close range super small target stuff, you really just need a drop hold over. Great question thank you!!
@@IRTools Both the converging and parallel zero are offset from the barrel. With the adjusters from a IR lasers are very crude and probably @ 1moa or more it's very difficult to maintain a zero beyond your initial zero distance. Due to that the parallel zero has always veered off to one direction and will get worse the longer the distance to the target. I choose the overlap the IR laser to my optic at the furthest distance I can see with out using any ammo. It will be more precise at close targets and far targets because the 2 points will never be farther then the distance of the bore to your IR pointer and only get closer until they meet. If your bore to laser is 2.5" above and 2.5" to the left and meet at 1,000 yards the only thing you'll have to worry about is the initial mechanical offset at bad breath distance and your hold over at long engagements. I'll be the first one to admit lasers are not meant to be for precision, but you should be able to engage targets to the same distance as a red dot. I have engaged USPSA steel targets out past 400 yards using the converging zero. If you haven't tried it yet it's definitely to your benefit to see what it's actual capability is. Great content and I hope to see more from your channel. I also checked out your store and will be ordering soon. It's great to see a small business flourish in a very small market.
@@luguefamily1498 no doubt. What i do too, more precise than anything
@@luguefamily1498 Great info and thank you! We are using converging zero's on everything now outside of some DMR stuff in 30Cal for exactly the reasons you laid out, we are also working on new zero targets as, a converging zero does not need much ammo to confirm. Thaanks again!
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Nice video !!
Thanks!
What’s the name of the scope you have on your gun? I’m looking for a scope for mine.
Trijicon IR hunter. He says it in the first minute.
3:40 theres a bug at the end of your suppressor lol
Imagine standing close to a missile launching tube...xd
That's way off on your ir vs where you have the laser mounted. I'd bet at 50 your 6-8" left and 4" low.
No not at all, we do have an offset like all lasers, but it is about 2.5"
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