How to Zero Your IR / Vis Laser
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video we go over the two main laser zeros, converging & constant offset. Both of these zeros have their time and place depending on application. Laser devices where the IR & visible laser is slaved we recommend to zero during the day for ease. If your IR laser is not slaved to your visible laser or you do not have a visible laser these same zeros still hold true and would be done under night vision.
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2 years later...was able to zero my first rifle laser because of this video...thank you so much!
Another tip ive used for a cowitness laser is to turn the red dot off after you have the two merged and then treat the laser as your red dot through your optic. Accomplishes the same task but can allow you to keep your same body position relative to the rifle to minimize the possibility of shifting your rifle due to an unnatural shooting position.
Great information, very well presented. That drawing of the laser square, and the barrel circle, was exactly what I needed to see
This video was unbelievably helpful thanks mates
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Most helpful laser vid I’ve seen
Very glad it was helpful!
I’d like to see a comparison of the two zeros on steel from 100 yards-300 yards to see the difference on poi. It’s just a few inches difference but still interesting to see.
I like how u get the measurement for the laser Dot off set. Thanks 4 the we'll done video Bro👌
Good video! No need to buy overpriced targets that are printed with a laser offset
Thank you! Agreed, especially since every laser has a slightly different offset. So working on the fundamental reason of using a constant offset then you want your offset of the exact laser you are using.
Can print them for free everyone homie
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Thank you for the info. Just got my pvs14 and my perst4.
Glad you found it helpful! Enjoy.
You can get a parallel zero without firing a shot. Just do what you did initially, except use an actual target - and mark where the laser is. Go back to 50, have a buddy with a walkie talkie and aim at the target (take bolt out of rifle to make safe). Buddy will tell you what adjustments to make. Go back to 100 to confirm it's still parallel. Should be a small correction at 100 if needed. If you're by yourself use a ransom rest and really make sure the gun doesnt move.
..would STILL want to confirm WITH rounds.
@@m118lr It's pointless to shoot live ammo you aren't confirming anything. This isn't like zeroing an optic. When you zero off another sight the relative alignment is automatically established.
You can actually do this even simpler by aiming with your red dot at a distant target at or beyond your max effective range and then zeroing the laser to the POA. Bam. It is for all purposes the same as a parallel zero.
Using this method if you're going for a parallel (constant offset) laser zero, do you have to mark the target with the offset or just aim at the center of the target?
Also, can you use a magnifier to help once you get further out or will stacking that many lenses (eotech + 6x magnifier cause issues).
TY sir, great tips.
@ikemouser2580 if you want to get super super precise what I do is stick the muzzle flat against a target while my optic is at the center of the target (aiming point), turn the laser on, and mark where the laser is with a marker. Then when you back up you aim at the same spot and have a partner guide the laser onto the offset if you can't see. Other than that, what DaveSmith said is also a super easy way to zero. Aim at something like 200m-300m away and just line up the dot with the POA of your optic and you've got a pretty good parallel zero
@@chrissnoeberger192 can I use my magnifier to do it, no way to see it at 200m without magnification.
Just wanted to say thank you. Offset is very nice.
Just rotate the rifle 12 degrees or so and line the laser up directly over the bore and zero at that angle and it will follow the bullet drop at the angle. Zero at 10 to 12 yards and the laser will closely follow the bullet trajectory andbe close to a second zero at 50 yards. You can fine tune it on at 50 yards then back up and see where it converges at close distance. Then you know exactly where the laser and bullet zero align and the laser will slightly be just below the bullet between those two points but just slightly. Hate using a scope to set a laser, just doesn't work as well, just look down the laser instead.
Pretty interesting, thanks for taking the time to share this.
The subject is way over complicated by old school thinking. The easiest and most accurate solution is at looking through your NOD zero your "IR" laser to your already zeroed optic at the "furthest" distance you can see, that way your hold over/unders are exactly the same all without firing a single shot. Since you zero it at the furthest distance there will be no "crossing over". Also do "not" use your vis laser to zero your "IR" lase and assume it will be zeroed also. The "co alinged" laser is not co aligned since they're not on top of each other, so it will never be co aligned at all distances.
This is how I do it. However, the method in the video is still necessary if you have a short range (example guys in NPE setting up their gear in a hotel room, use a laser). Or you got stuff like thermal weapon sights. Laser boresighter is very useful.
Very helpful
Good info!
I ordered my NGAL last week (wed or thur I think) and it arrived on tue. Since we are having summer in January (peaked out at 70), I thought I would make some adjustments to the laser(s) to at least get them close to zero'd. I am going for a parallel zero so I have the visible laser just below and a tad to the left of my zero'd ATN X-Sight. Now when I turn on the IR laser, its showing up a good distance below the visible laser. Which laser do you recommend using when I zero the NGAL???
Good video.
Just curious, what if you cut out the square of point of aim and let the laser pass through. Would that work and should it let you know that you are on the point of aim?
Lol
It works very well.
I use reflexive tape on the POA. Even better.
Can you explain positive load on the adjusters for NGAL as per the manual. But confused.
Thank you very much
I like the constant offset thought for being a civilian but if I see a need for cowitness is there a suggested distance for converging zero? My zero on my lpvo now is 36 yds and I have an offset red dot set for 10 yards.
If I'm running an eotech, can I use the 6x magnifier to zero further out? I cant see the target past about 80 yards and I want to zero as far out as possible.
Well done. Thank you.
I have a question. If you zero the laser at 50 yards with a constant offset will it still be constant at distances under 50 yards?
Yes, the constant offset is just that... constant. The reason is is because the offset is simply the distance between the last output and the center of the bore. That distance stays the same no matter what the yardage.
Just to clarify, the constant offset is HORIZONTAL offeset. this is probably the part you're confused about. the vertical will change.
Parallel offset, constant, same same. Good explanation btw
Converging and parallel zeros are what you’re thinking of.
Why not cant the rifle when you shoot with the laser and then have a proper zero independent of your main optic?
Exactly what I do. I was looking for vids to see if anyone else did. I treat the laser like it’s an offset red dot.
That chigger comment hit my soul.
Trust us, Texas chiggers were no joke. Only time we will be sloppy with our zero haha.
What about the offset of vis laser and ir laser?
Great vid. Subbed!
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What happens if you have a tlr 8 mounted on a pcc on the 12 oclock position?
How did u aim ur laser to its exact location beside barel b4 this video ?????? Lasers don't come zeroed so technically u gota move ur lazer around right ???????
lasers do not come zeroed but they are generally bore sighted to be around a decent starting point. When you put the suppressor up to the target the laser is so close the "zero" doesn't change your impact zone at that distance so the impact zone still holds when you go to distance to start the zeroing process.
What distance were you shooting, 50 yards?
Yup! We run 50 yard zeros on most SBRs
Anyone with an NGAL or Wilcox is just flexing at this point. Most of us can only get Holosun, Steiner and well we used to be able to get "civilian" EOTech peq15s. Even EOTech's new OGL is outside most people's price point.
Question can you see ir laser with the nv eotech exps3 without mods?
You cannot. To see an ir laser you would need actual night vision or a night time compatible digital camera. The NV mode on Eotechs simply dims the reticle enough to not damage tubes when used with night vision.
Ok..... good concept buuuuuut !!!! What if the laser if offset ???? Duhhhh it's not gona happen accurately this way right ?????
If you laser is offset on the rail, the same concept applies and you just learn your offset. If you are meaning the laser on the laser device isn't centered over the bore, that is why you you the method we show here.
What distance did you zero your co witness option
Whatever zero your optic is. That’s how the cowitness is designed to work. That’s what makes it easy but comes with the downfalls mentioned 🤙🏼
Do you have a build list for this?
Sure, A white piece of cardboard, a long wooden stick, and some staples.
It's easier to do the muzzle first then the laser.
you have a microphone for ants
We have drastically improved our audio quality in newer videos.
What IR unit are you running on that rifle?
Ngal
NGAL and Raid-X
Honestly I don't feel that you all are squared away with your rifles enough to be educating others. And no I'm not saying I'm squared away enough either.
That’s an interesting statement… elaborate ?
@@LicentiaArmsCo I think maybe for those that haven’t shot in night vision may not appreciate these tips. But I appreciate it (first draw out the barrel and the laser area and then coloring the dot area with blue color.
Wearing ears with a suppressor. Alrighty.
Do you not know how suppressors work?
Just because its not AS loud doesn’t mean it wont damage your hearing overtime
We do, and anyone running suppressors should still wear ears. We care about our hearing. Just because a can use being used doesn’t mean you still can’t very much damage your hearing.
@@LicentiaArmsCo what exactly is the suppressor for them exactly?
@@jbeard82 to suppress muzzle flash and recoil