The efficiency I think just shows the progress on their technology. Can only go up from here. Awesome vid! I have a CyberTruck ordered that I haven’t built out yet since I have an X and I like the 7 seats specially when taking road trip with the entire family and our dogs. Cheers!
I came here to hear about your “de-ranged” test. Interesting that I’m seeing almost identical wh/m with my tri-motor running 18” wheels and Toyota Open Country tires. Makes me think they aren’t hurting my range as much as I expected them to.
For towing you want 800 miles of range(which would give you a 400 miles of towing range)but if you're not towing charging speed is more important. How about a 1000 miles of range?
That is excellent , I know when I drive on the interstate ive been impressed with the CTs highway range . That is even better than I suspected it would be .
Try a Gen2 R1T max pack in your warmer climate, OOS did it but it was cold and windy so wasn't optimal. Would like to see what a 70MPH range test looks like in the R1T Gen2 max pack range wheels. When you did the R1T Quad large pack years ago you got 340+ miles.
We have a cybertruck and a model Y as well. But our experience is the opposite of yours. It takes less time to travel in the Y because it gets about the same range as the truck and charges in half the time. I don't get range anxiety in the Y, but I sure do in the truck.
I noticed the Power Bar wasn't displaying the DOT's. Tesla must have eliminated that. Bummer. That was a useful tool to have if you were running on fumes.
Our Cybertruck range is so much closer to what was promised than our old Y, in confirmation of what you were saying*! And the Y's range estimate at the start of any trip has always tended to over-promise and under-deliver as the trip proceeds, whereas it is generally actually the opposite with the truck, which has the laudable effect of inducing "range serenity" rather than range anxiety as the trip proceeds. *We have the other tires, and can still do over 300 miles at 70 MPH (we haven't even topped 10k miles yet). And what is more amazing, at non-highway speeds, we regularly hit like .319 watt-hours per mile while pleasure driving, which implies 376 miles of range, assuming we can still pull around 120 kilowatt-hours from the pack. The only negative is that, over its lifetime, the Y has provided 3.5 miles per kW, whereas the truck will never be quite that inexpensive to operate; in fact around 40% more...
DO NOT call it the rated range. It is the EPA which is a mixed highway and city driving range at an average of 49mph intended to give a mixed driving range estimate and fuel consumption NOT a 70mph highway test. Don't pretend like car manufacturers are lying/misleading or not be able to give fair values by falsely comparing EPA ratings with high way road trip range numbers. Thank you so much!
@BeardedTeslaGuy why don't you do it? Name the video "does cybertruck meet its EPA rated range" You will not know how many people think Tesla is misleading people by their measured EPA range.
@BeardedTeslaGuy Also, I think it would be good if Tesla published a road trip range estimate at 70 mph, as this is what people are looking for because they are scared it is not enough during a road trip. Again, historically, the EPA is intended to highlight average driving and emissions, not road trip range.
These 70 mph tests are the dumbest. In real road trips on highways, the average speeds are more like 75-80 mph. So you get max 250 miles range from 100% charge at those speeds. But since charging stations are not available at every exit you end up having to charge before 0%. So your real practical range is likely 200 miles or you have to charge approximately every 2.5-3 hours of driving. Now here’s the kicker, most people only charge up to 80-85% since you’re wasting a lot of time charging to 100%. So effectively your real practical range is 160-170 miles. I’ve clocked over 60k miles of road trips in my Model Y which is rated around 308 miles. 90% of the time I end up having to charge up on road trips after 160 miles. Don’t rely on the calculated miles on the screen. It’s grossly inaccurate. Rule of thumb that I go by is you have 2 miles of range per 1% SoC (for the so called 300 mile range vehicles).
@promogul i agree. At the same time it is fairly to say that for normal daily driving you leave your house with a full charge every day so you never have to charge when you do not make a long road trip. An ice vehicle charged every week for 10 minutes.
I was just thinking if you drive 65 mph, how would it do? To oppose my own question, probably no one will drive the speed limit and so 70mph is probably a good test. But yet, what would the range difference be? It would be too excessive to test maybe but consumers will get a better idea if range were compared between driving 65 - 70 - 75 - 80 - 85. Up to 85 is probably good to know and so the owner can see how far they may want to push it. But that's a lot of work.
6735 miles driven in my AWD CT so far $467 spent on charging, mostly at home. super charger on some trips $1932 is the gas equivalent for the same range
EPA is 49mph average at around 68-78F EPA is intended for average driving estimates not road trips alone. somehow the "experts" that test it for us on TH-cam don't seem to do their researdudm.
Hmmm interesting you weren't able to get the whole battery juice out of it. Would be cool if you could have ran it down to dead and out of spec guys came with their lucid.
Wait one year this will go down to 85% and then 80% whem it's cold even worse. Whem I did test range in my Rivian R1t. I got above the estimated epa value. Check out my video driving from Atlanta to Brooklyn.
Please check the tire pressure recommendation that are in the driver door sticker or in the owners manual. The tire marking shows the Max pressure this tire can take. Tesla recommend 50 PSI, 65 should only be used under max load.
These 70 mph tests are the dumbest. In real road trips on highways, the average speeds are more like 75-80 mph. So you get max 250 miles range from 100% charge at those speeds. But since charging stations are not available at every exit you end up having to charge before 0%. So your real practical range is likely 200 miles or you have to charge approximately every 2.5-3 hours of driving. Now here’s the kicker, most people only charge up to 80-85% since you’re wasting a lot of time charging to 100%. So effectively your real practical range is 160-170 miles. I’ve clocked over 60k miles of road trips in my Model Y which is rated around 308 miles. 90% of the time I end up having to charge up on road trips after 160 miles. Don’t rely on the calculated miles on the screen. It’s grossly inaccurate. Rule of thumb that I go by is you have 2 miles of range per 1% SoC (for the so called 300 mile range vehicles).
@@BeardedTeslaGuy lol sure but when the name calling says it all Cybertruck owners are the lowest for sure when he'll bent with trying to convince people the vehicle isn't compromised and that we can't see better choices that outperform it for much less and this case you experienced it but ok lol
The efficiency I think just shows the progress on their technology. Can only go up from here. Awesome vid!
I have a CyberTruck ordered that I haven’t built out yet since I have an X and I like the 7 seats specially when taking road trip with the entire family and our dogs. Cheers!
World class efficiency
I should do a test with mine. I just crossed 20,000 miles and actually will go on a 2,100-mile road trip end of year.
Nice
I came here to hear about your “de-ranged” test.
Interesting that I’m seeing almost identical wh/m with my tri-motor running 18” wheels and Toyota Open Country tires. Makes me think they aren’t hurting my range as much as I expected them to.
Hahaha deranged test coming soon for the rack
Not bad! Thanks for the video.
Cheers
I hope they eventually increase the range to 400 miles without an extended pack in the bed…500 miles of range would be better.
Agree
I’m surprised at how much people fight when I say EV range needs to get to 400 miles on average to spur mass adoption.
Like they promised ? 500+ miles. That’s why I’m looking at Sierra EV 440 miles and access to superchargers. Can’t bet it
@@ruslanabbasov5668 Gjeejbs traded his Rivian in for a Sierra EV.
For towing you want 800 miles of range(which would give you a 400 miles of towing range)but if you're not towing charging speed is more important.
How about a 1000 miles of range?
Impressive, I didn't think you would get that type of range from the Cybertruck.
That is excellent , I know when I drive on the interstate ive been impressed with the CTs highway range . That is even better than I suspected it would be .
Great video Justin!
Try a Gen2 R1T max pack in your warmer climate, OOS did it but it was cold and windy so wasn't optimal. Would like to see what a 70MPH range test looks like in the R1T Gen2 max pack range wheels. When you did the R1T Quad large pack years ago you got 340+ miles.
love the typo on CT display! drive safe 🖖
It’s so satisfyingly simple
Was waiting to see if you used autopilot which uses the battery as well. I swear when I was driving manually for a week, I got more range.
I’m sure. Takes computing power to do all that.
New Model 3 gets substantially more than EPA estimate.
Indeed
And it has exactly the same battery as the one in 2023 model S. The range improvement is completely due to improved efficiency.
A model 3 with a model s battery in it?
We have a cybertruck and a model Y as well. But our experience is the opposite of yours. It takes less time to travel in the Y because it gets about the same range as the truck and charges in half the time. I don't get range anxiety in the Y, but I sure do in the truck.
I noticed the Power Bar wasn't displaying the DOT's. Tesla must have eliminated that. Bummer. That was a useful tool to have if you were running on fumes.
Indeed
I need a Cybertruck lol!
Now without side mirrors? Very curious on a before/after
Yea!
Our Cybertruck range is so much closer to what was promised than our old Y, in confirmation of what you were saying*! And the Y's range estimate at the start of any trip has always tended to over-promise and under-deliver as the trip proceeds, whereas it is generally actually the opposite with the truck, which has the laudable effect of inducing "range serenity" rather than range anxiety as the trip proceeds.
*We have the other tires, and can still do over 300 miles at 70 MPH (we haven't even topped 10k miles yet). And what is more amazing, at non-highway speeds, we regularly hit like .319 watt-hours per mile while pleasure driving, which implies 376 miles of range, assuming we can still pull around 120 kilowatt-hours from the pack. The only negative is that, over its lifetime, the Y has provided 3.5 miles per kW, whereas the truck will never be quite that inexpensive to operate; in fact around 40% more...
That’s some seriously good efficiency!
Tires inflated to max pressure yields better results than recommended tire inflation levels?🤔 I would question that!
DO NOT call it the rated range. It is the EPA which is a mixed highway and city driving range at an average of 49mph intended to give a mixed driving range estimate and fuel consumption NOT a 70mph highway test.
Don't pretend like car manufacturers are lying/misleading or not be able to give fair values by falsely comparing EPA ratings with high way road trip range numbers.
Thank you so much!
lol, I don’t do under 50 because it would far exceed the EPA rated range - aka “rated range”
@BeardedTeslaGuy why don't you do it?
Name the video "does cybertruck meet its EPA rated range"
You will not know how many people think Tesla is misleading people by their measured EPA range.
@BeardedTeslaGuy Also, I think it would be good if Tesla published a road trip range estimate at 70 mph, as this is what people are looking for because they are scared it is not enough during a road trip. Again, historically, the EPA is intended to highlight average driving and emissions, not road trip range.
These 70 mph tests are the dumbest. In real road trips on highways, the average speeds are more like 75-80 mph. So you get max 250 miles range from 100% charge at those speeds. But since charging stations are not available at every exit you end up having to charge before 0%. So your real practical range is likely 200 miles or you have to charge approximately every 2.5-3 hours of driving. Now here’s the kicker, most people only charge up to 80-85% since you’re wasting a lot of time charging to 100%. So effectively your real practical range is 160-170 miles. I’ve clocked over 60k miles of road trips in my Model Y which is rated around 308 miles. 90% of the time I end up having to charge up on road trips after 160 miles. Don’t rely on the calculated miles on the screen. It’s grossly inaccurate. Rule of thumb that I go by is you have 2 miles of range per 1% SoC (for the so called 300 mile range vehicles).
@promogul i agree. At the same time it is fairly to say that for normal daily driving you leave your house with a full charge every day so you never have to charge when you do not make a long road trip.
An ice vehicle charged every week for 10 minutes.
I was just thinking if you drive 65 mph, how would it do? To oppose my own question, probably no one will drive the speed limit and so 70mph is probably a good test. But yet, what would the range difference be?
It would be too excessive to test maybe but consumers will get a better idea if range were compared between driving 65 - 70 - 75 - 80 - 85. Up to 85 is probably good to know and so the owner can see how far they may want to push it. But that's a lot of work.
1:10 62 PSI and screen shows recommended 50 PSI ... seems like a bit of a cheat there ;) --- Tesla order page today states 325 miles
Can someone compare the cost of the electricity used to the gasoline equivalent and provide commentary. My next vehicle will be a cybertruck. Thanks
6735 miles driven in my AWD CT so far
$467 spent on charging, mostly at home. super charger on some trips
$1932 is the gas equivalent for the same range
The green... thing... on your dashboard- is that visual guidance for passenger side edge?
It’s a rubber ducky! It slid up there and until I can get a boom lift to get me all the way up there, it will stay there
@@BeardedTeslaGuy 🤣🤣🤣
The rated range isn’t meant for only 70mph though, right? I’d like to see the same test done at 60mph and 50mph.
Sure, but the 70 mph test is a good one because it simulates highway speeds for road trips
EPA is 49mph average at around 68-78F
EPA is intended for average driving estimates not road trips alone. somehow the "experts" that test it for us on TH-cam don't seem to do their researdudm.
@@bartdeking you do realize that would bring a much higher range
@@BeardedTeslaGuy yes, and they should publish that as well as a range estimate for 70mph road trip range.
Nice 👍🏾
Thanks for watching
Why is the truck only getting 312 miles on a 100% charge is this battery degradation already just curious or is it because of the season we’re in?
I wish my model y would bring over 300mi at 75mph lol.
Same
Hmmm interesting you weren't able to get the whole battery juice out of it. Would be cool if you could have ran it down to dead and out of spec guys came with their lucid.
If I had support, I would have run it until it stopped
Wait one year this will go down to 85% and then 80% whem it's cold even worse. Whem I did test range in my Rivian R1t. I got above the estimated epa value. Check out my video driving from Atlanta to Brooklyn.
That's an impressive number. I was guessing 25 miles less
I was impressed
How did you decide on the 65 psi tire pressure. Is that from your personal experience or is it recommended by Tesla for maximum range?
It’s marked on the side of the tire
Thanks. I didn’t know if you’ve tried different psi’s for range differences.
Please check the tire pressure recommendation that are in the driver door sticker or in the owners manual. The tire marking shows the Max pressure this tire can take. Tesla recommend 50 PSI, 65 should only be used under max load.
Software update available in the video? Update update update
Lol
These 70 mph tests are the dumbest. In real road trips on highways, the average speeds are more like 75-80 mph. So you get max 250 miles range from 100% charge at those speeds. But since charging stations are not available at every exit you end up having to charge before 0%. So your real practical range is likely 200 miles or you have to charge approximately every 2.5-3 hours of driving. Now here’s the kicker, most people only charge up to 80-85% since you’re wasting a lot of time charging to 100%. So effectively your real practical range is 160-170 miles. I’ve clocked over 60k miles of road trips in my Model Y which is rated around 308 miles. 90% of the time I end up having to charge up on road trips after 160 miles. Don’t rely on the calculated miles on the screen. It’s grossly inaccurate. Rule of thumb that I go by is you have 2 miles of range per 1% SoC (for the so called 300 mile range vehicles).
You are correct. About the same in my 2022MYP.
Elevation in Florida?? :) lol
Not much, pretty flat
Me complaining on the 450miles on a wagoneer driving 85 😂😂😂
The problem is that you have to fuel up every week where this cybertruck driver leavs every day with a full charge.
🤔...how long did you spend driving at 40 mph as that shouldn't count, almost like gaming the range test to get better results
Um, I don’t recall ever driving 40…at the half way point I got over 500 wh/mi on the 3 miles to get to the highway. Don’t be an idiot
You really did your best to maintain 70mph from 100% to 0%. Very impressive
@@BeardedTeslaGuy lol sure but when the name calling says it all Cybertruck owners are the lowest for sure when he'll bent with trying to convince people the vehicle isn't compromised and that we can't see better choices that outperform it for much less and this case you experienced it but ok lol
so probably 220 miles with normal driving
Nah
WTF is normal for you?😂
Are you paying attention to what happens to these things in a collision.