I'd say practice getting consistently good results with the fine first then try the super fine. Both can make cappuccinos and flat whites. It really just depends on how much air you introduce.
Yes, sure can. The Screens essentially act as a filter for the bubbles you initially create in the first 2-10 seconds of frothing. So if you consider this - Without a Screen - Makes Heavy Thick Dry Cappuccino Foam - as there's not screen reducing the size of the bubbles. With the Fine Screen - Makes Latte Style of Foam - medium thickness with silky consistency. With Super Fine Screen - Makes Flat White Style Foam. Thin and silky. NB: The time in which you aerate the milk will also have an effect on the quality of the milk. So It is possible to get a flat white sylte milk with the FINE screen, although it will take longer to reduce the size of the bubbles with the larger screen. & in reverse, the SUPER FINE screen will make Cappuccino style foam, but you'll need to create a lot of volume in the beginning and froth more than before to incorporate it fully.
This was my question, too, so thanks. The one summer I worked at Starbucks here was the only milk difference. A cappuccino required a straight pour and for a latte we held back top foam while pouring and then spooned a little foam on top. That’s it. Everyone loved it. While it’s great that people have experimented one wonders how much is innovation and how much is complication for complication’s sake. ; )
tip on Nespresso and latte art. I was gifted a Nespresso Vertuo long ago, and for ease practice that’s what I was using initially test Nanofoamer results. What I discovered is the thick layer of crema Nespresso produces is a bit too thick for the milk to move through. As soon as I removed about half the crema, I could get nice designs. …but I’m a beginner and maybe I’m doing something wrong
New to making my own lattes. I love this foamer. Totally a beginner and can get nice foam. Easy cleanup too. Battery lasts a long time before recharching.
One tip: I'm you get the AA battery powered version: You need very high quality batteries, eg duracell, and they need to be quite new. After not long it runs down a little and the thing won't spin fast enough to make proper foam. Now after it gets to that point I just take the batteries out and use them in something else that needs less power.
It's also worth noting that you should rinse off the milk immediately after frothing as the screen will eventually clog from milk build up over time. This holds true even if you rinse it immediately after pouring your latte art. I'd say rinse off and occasionally use a soft toothbrush to clean the screen to prevent heavy build up
How do we get oat milk to froth? do you use the fine or superfine mesh? I managed to get normal milk to white paint but is there a different technique for oat milk?
Mine just arrived - you may have already answered this -- to get more of a frothy foam, versus thick consistency, is there a method ?? I just used mine for the first time and it was pretty thick and flat. Still yummy, but I love the foam !!
More air. So if you're going for foam - use it without any screens 👌 and keep it out of the milk more. It might make a little more of a mess but that'll be the foam you're after
I have one. It has build quality issues. Right of the box the protective case is too lose and keeps falling off. The plastic feels cheap in hand and i dont think that it is made to last more than the 5 dollar ones i get it in my country. It has design issues as well and isn't as ergonomic and easy to use as they have shown here. It takes way more than 20 seconds to froth milk and holding that tight power button constantly is a challenge in itself. The only case where this makes sense is when you use a manual espresso machine like a flaire. I hope mine makes me prove wrong and lasts a few years.
I am having the same issue with this, I wanted to love it but the design is really bad, I don't believe it will last long and it is quite expensive for what it is
I use Ikea's equivalent. Cost 1GBP and does a good job. Pretty robust and as they're so cheap, you can buy a dozen and keep 'em on hand...I'm still using the first one that's been frothing since last may - every day for twice a day!
I’m going to try your frothing technique. I have good and bad days with it, sometimes having trouble getting the right consistency. I’ve been doing it at less of an angle, and just off center instead of closer to the side like you were doing
Thanks for the clear presentation/ instruction. Got fairly good results the first time. Found it a bit easier than figuring out the best combination of big and little pumps when frothing with a French press.
One use case scenario other than travel is for where everyone in your family uses the kitchen and you don't want accidents involving high pressure from the steamer
Hi. Thanks for the video. Tried few times but my milk seems too thin to make latte art. I did follow the steps ie milk T 55-65degC, started from middle and moved to one side etc. still it failed. I would appreciate if you can advise which steps I probably did wrong. TIA Jai
I would consider looking at the milk you're using. Some milk, if it does not have a certain fat content, will not froth up no matter how much you spon it. Ideally you want to use Full fat, full cream milk anything from around 2.5% to 5% fat. Powered milk or light milk is very hard to froth with... Some alternative nut milks work great though so perhaps look at using these too
Just bought one of these - struggling to get a flat white consistency, an issue I'm facing is I have to press the side button very firmly to keep it staying on, and even then sometimes it tries to stop halfway through frothing milk, is this the same for all of them or do I have a dodgy one?
You do have to keep the button pressed the whole time - which has been an issue for some. You might be able to find a good hack so you don't have to hold the button in - but I agree - holding it for any long period of time can be difficult
@@AlternativeBrewing my issue is you have to hold the button crazy hard to keep it going, and even then it sometimes stops and you lose the vortex, might have to mod the switch so it's a bit easier to activate
Josh, love the videos. Here you heated the milk up in the jug, right on the stove - something that blew my mind. Just wanting to clarify, can I heat my milk up in my standard barista milk jug on a gas stove?? I'm wanting to update my camp coffee equipment and I'm always on the look out for great strong espresso style coffee without too much mess and dishes to wash afterwards - within reason that is.
thanks! ... I would not use a regular Milk Jug - they're not intended for this use - shortly I will be making a video regarding the latest Flow Tip Milk Jug - alternativebrewing.com.au/products/subminimal-flowtip-milk-jug These will work on any stovetop - gas, electrical and induction. It blew my mind too once I started using it. This works a treat in combination with the Nanofoamer 👍
Using vegetal milk is a bit tricky with this. I have been using the French press technique and getting amazing results but with the nanofoamer my wrist give up before I can make decent froth.
@@xenonram the button is so hard that the pressure from my thumb translates all the way to the wrist. I modified the button clicker and now is very soft and causes no issues.
Man, I've had this thing for a couple of weeks now and I just can't seem to get even the basic tulip design down, it's so frustrating. I do everything that you do up until the 3:33 part, however when I bring the pitcher down to draw the circular shape, the milk just kind of falls through instead spreading around the top, and the only thing that's left at the end is milk goop at the bottom of the pitcher. I am using whole milk and try to follow the prescribed technique (start in the middle for 2-10 seconds, then dip it further down and move to the edge) to no avail. Any tips would be much appreciated.
Sounds like your milk is splitting apart. As in you have froth and liquid milk that is not combined for a silky texture / does this sound right? Give your milk in the jug a good couple of swirls to get the foam and the liquid milk combined as much as possible . Pour from a medium heigh nice and steadily to begin with and keep filling up the cup until 3/4 before you drop down and when you do drop down, make sure you tilt the jug in to the cup and aim to hold the tip of the jug at the centre of your cup... lots to work on - but keep practising and we'll be exploring Latte art real soon - so keep an eye out for that
@@AlternativeBrewing Yes you're right, the texture of the milk is very uneven - it's about 80% fairly heavy milk that just sort of punches through the espresso crema, leaving only the floaty goop behind that is not very conducive to good latte art. Thank you very much for your advice, I will certainly keep trying. I have sort of gotten closer in my latest attempt by reducing the aeration time, but I clearly need more practice
@@davidd.6448 *^^^this for sure***...after watching videos of this and other latte art I realized I was foaming too long as well, however, there does seem to be a fine line... anyway, good luck!
pure garbage. i have one with changable battery, and to get those batteries in correctly seem to be a sort of random action, sometimes it works, sometimes it dont. it makes fine bubbles when it works for sure, but it takes bloody forever and therefor drains batterys very fast. you then have to goe through the process of changeing battery again. i have also got the doubble a batteries get stuck in it.
This is great for immitation foam. But to get the texture AND taste you need high pressure steam to change the milk at the molecular level to bring out the sweetness in the milk.
NIce video. It was not clear to me which cap you should use for flat-white, late or cappuccino respectively. Would you mind clarifying?
I'd say practice getting consistently good results with the fine first then try the super fine. Both can make cappuccinos and flat whites. It really just depends on how much air you introduce.
Yes, sure can. The Screens essentially act as a filter for the bubbles you initially create in the first 2-10 seconds of frothing. So if you consider this -
Without a Screen - Makes Heavy Thick Dry Cappuccino Foam - as there's not screen reducing the size of the bubbles.
With the Fine Screen - Makes Latte Style of Foam - medium thickness with silky consistency.
With Super Fine Screen - Makes Flat White Style Foam. Thin and silky.
NB: The time in which you aerate the milk will also have an effect on the quality of the milk. So It is possible to get a flat white sylte milk with the FINE screen, although it will take longer to reduce the size of the bubbles with the larger screen. & in reverse, the SUPER FINE screen will make Cappuccino style foam, but you'll need to create a lot of volume in the beginning and froth more than before to incorporate it fully.
This was my question, too, so thanks. The one summer I worked at Starbucks here was the only milk difference. A cappuccino required a straight pour and for a latte we held back top foam while pouring and then spooned a little foam on top. That’s it. Everyone loved it. While it’s great that people have experimented one wonders how much is innovation and how much is complication for complication’s sake. ; )
Hi, Just wonder if there is chargeable version. I would be more convenient😃
There is now! It's called Nanofoamer Lithium @@doraleung1749
tip on Nespresso and latte art. I was gifted a Nespresso Vertuo long ago, and for ease practice that’s what I was using initially test Nanofoamer results. What I discovered is the thick layer of crema Nespresso produces is a bit too thick for the milk to move through. As soon as I removed about half the crema, I could get nice designs.
…but I’m a beginner and maybe I’m doing something wrong
New to making my own lattes. I love this foamer. Totally a beginner and can get nice foam. Easy cleanup too. Battery lasts a long time before recharching.
Enjoy!
I have one it works professionally love it
One tip: I'm you get the AA battery powered version: You need very high quality batteries, eg duracell, and they need to be quite new. After not long it runs down a little and the thing won't spin fast enough to make proper foam. Now after it gets to that point I just take the batteries out and use them in something else that needs less power.
Thanks! After a week it started getting very weak, figured energizer batteries would last a lot longer.
It's also worth noting that you should rinse off the milk immediately after frothing as the screen will eventually clog from milk build up over time. This holds true even if you rinse it immediately after pouring your latte art. I'd say rinse off and occasionally use a soft toothbrush to clean the screen to prevent heavy build up
That's a great point to make!
They gave me a cleaning brush with mine. (Or did I add it on to the Kickstarter order? Can’t remember)
i just run it under the tap immediately and then turn it on the let it dry itself
it should have a built-in thermometer to be right
How do we get oat milk to froth? do you use the fine or superfine mesh? I managed to get normal milk to white paint but is there a different technique for oat milk?
Mine just arrived - you may have already answered this -- to get more of a frothy foam, versus thick consistency, is there a method ?? I just used mine for the first time and it was pretty thick and flat. Still yummy, but I love the foam !!
More air. So if you're going for foam - use it without any screens 👌 and keep it out of the milk more. It might make a little more of a mess but that'll be the foam you're after
Thanks! I've been struggling with my nano for two weeks, every variance conceivable, still total fail with lots of foam! Will keep trying!
Glad to help!
I have one. It has build quality issues. Right of the box the protective case is too lose and keeps falling off. The plastic feels cheap in hand and i dont think that it is made to last more than the 5 dollar ones i get it in my country. It has design issues as well and isn't as ergonomic and easy to use as they have shown here. It takes way more than 20 seconds to froth milk and holding that tight power button constantly is a challenge in itself. The only case where this makes sense is when you use a manual espresso machine like a flaire. I hope mine makes me prove wrong and lasts a few years.
I am having the same issue with this, I wanted to love it but the design is really bad, I don't believe it will last long and it is quite expensive for what it is
I use Ikea's equivalent. Cost 1GBP and does a good job. Pretty robust and as they're so cheap, you can buy a dozen and keep 'em on hand...I'm still using the first one that's been frothing since last may - every day for twice a day!
The button is very hard to press down, but their support showed me a way to make it easier. Still prefer a toggle tho
How did it hold up 2 years later ?
@@skyking9248 it takes so much effort that i barely use it. Won't recommend the first model.
I just have it today, but somehow mastering it is really really difficult. It needs practice and right amount of milk.
I managed to get latte microfoam from a cheap frother. I'm stoked to try this thing out.
I’m going to try your frothing technique. I have good and bad days with it, sometimes having trouble getting the right consistency. I’ve been doing it at less of an angle, and just off center instead of closer to the side like you were doing
Thanks for the clear presentation/ instruction. Got fairly good results the first time. Found it a bit easier than figuring out the best combination of big and little pumps when frothing with a French press.
Glad it helped!
I'd really like to see a complete uncut workflow with the nanofoamer.
Everyone who has tried this knows it doesn’t work 70% of the time…
I like the cover because that makes it easier to keister it and sneak one in to my cuz on block B
Any chance we will see a updated review with the new V2 & lithium versions?
Yes 100%. Should be out soon
@@AlternativeBrewing definitely look forward to that
One use case scenario other than travel is for where everyone in your family uses the kitchen and you don't want accidents involving high pressure from the steamer
Are there households where "everyone in the family" doesn't use the kitchen? What do you think is going to happen?
Do you make one with simple off and on switch and life battery indicator?
There is a new one out that has this yes 👌 It's the Lithium Battery Model. alternativebrewing.com.au/products/subminimal-nanofoamer-milk-frother
How is the performance compared to a regular hand held milk frother?
10x more improved ! speed and efficiency 🔥
Can we do this whith a warm milk so the coffee is not get cold?
🙌 yes
@@AlternativeBrewing thanks!
Hi. Thanks for the video. Tried few times but my milk seems too thin to make latte art. I did follow the steps ie milk T 55-65degC, started from middle and moved to one side etc. still it failed. I would appreciate if you can advise which steps I probably did wrong.
TIA
Jai
I would consider looking at the milk you're using. Some milk, if it does not have a certain fat content, will not froth up no matter how much you spon it. Ideally you want to use Full fat, full cream milk anything from around 2.5% to 5% fat. Powered milk or light milk is very hard to froth with... Some alternative nut milks work great though so perhaps look at using these too
I’m using one and it’s pretty good
Can I ask what is the pitcher volume you use in the video?
Hi Gloria, it's the Subminimal 360ml jug 👉 alternativebrewing.com.au/products/subminimal-flowtip-milk-jug
Thanks ❤ I learned a lot from you
My pleasure 😊
can you boil milk in a pot and do the nano foaming there? so we can have a large amount of milk for a large number of guests :D
Just bought one of these - struggling to get a flat white consistency, an issue I'm facing is I have to press the side button very firmly to keep it staying on, and even then sometimes it tries to stop halfway through frothing milk, is this the same for all of them or do I have a dodgy one?
You do have to keep the button pressed the whole time - which has been an issue for some. You might be able to find a good hack so you don't have to hold the button in - but I agree - holding it for any long period of time can be difficult
@@AlternativeBrewing my issue is you have to hold the button crazy hard to keep it going, and even then it sometimes stops and you lose the vortex, might have to mod the switch so it's a bit easier to activate
does it froth cold milk?
100% yes it does 👌 quite well
Josh, love the videos. Here you heated the milk up in the jug, right on the stove - something that blew my mind. Just wanting to clarify, can I heat my milk up in my standard barista milk jug on a gas stove?? I'm wanting to update my camp coffee equipment and I'm always on the look out for great strong espresso style coffee without too much mess and dishes to wash afterwards - within reason that is.
thanks! ... I would not use a regular Milk Jug - they're not intended for this use - shortly I will be making a video regarding the latest Flow Tip Milk Jug - alternativebrewing.com.au/products/subminimal-flowtip-milk-jug
These will work on any stovetop - gas, electrical and induction. It blew my mind too once I started using it. This works a treat in combination with the Nanofoamer 👍
@@AlternativeBrewing Great, thanks for letting me know. Looking forward to next videos :)
I get a very bubbly and a very thin layer of foam with it. tried everything in the book but this doesnt work
keep it just below the surface of the milk and hold it still at an angle 👌
@@AlternativeBrewing How deep do we go down when we go sidewards ?
Using vegetal milk is a bit tricky with this. I have been using the French press technique and getting amazing results but with the nanofoamer my wrist give up before I can make decent froth.
Do you use your wrist with this product? It shouldn't require any movement from your hand, right?
@@xenonram the button is so hard that the pressure from my thumb translates all the way to the wrist. I modified the button clicker and now is very soft and causes no issues.
I agree. It froths and then it dissipates quickly
Man, I've had this thing for a couple of weeks now and I just can't seem to get even the basic tulip design down, it's so frustrating. I do everything that you do up until the 3:33 part, however when I bring the pitcher down to draw the circular shape, the milk just kind of falls through instead spreading around the top, and the only thing that's left at the end is milk goop at the bottom of the pitcher. I am using whole milk and try to follow the prescribed technique (start in the middle for 2-10 seconds, then dip it further down and move to the edge) to no avail. Any tips would be much appreciated.
Sounds like your milk is splitting apart. As in you have froth and liquid milk that is not combined for a silky texture / does this sound right?
Give your milk in the jug a good couple of swirls to get the foam and the liquid milk combined as much as possible . Pour from a medium heigh nice and steadily to begin with and keep filling up the cup until 3/4 before you drop down and when you do drop down, make sure you tilt the jug in to the cup and aim to hold the tip of the jug at the centre of your cup... lots to work on - but keep practising and we'll be exploring Latte art real soon - so keep an eye out for that
@@AlternativeBrewing Yes you're right, the texture of the milk is very uneven - it's about 80% fairly heavy milk that just sort of punches through the espresso crema, leaving only the floaty goop behind that is not very conducive to good latte art. Thank you very much for your advice, I will certainly keep trying. I have sort of gotten closer in my latest attempt by reducing the aeration time, but I clearly need more practice
@@davidd.6448 *^^^this for sure***...after watching videos of this and other latte art I realized I was foaming too long as well, however, there does seem to be a fine line... anyway, good luck!
Same issues. My milk isn't silky. It's liquid and then thick foam. Guess I'll keep practicing.
Would buy it but need to be rechargeable
You can get rechargeable Batteries instead?
Mine would start normal and than would lose frequency, which was clearly audible. I am not convinced of the build quality of those devices.
Sounds like a battery problem.
01:40 "You all everybody..."
pure garbage. i have one with changable battery, and to get those batteries in correctly seem to be a sort of random action, sometimes it works, sometimes it dont.
it makes fine bubbles when it works for sure, but it takes bloody forever and therefor drains batterys very fast. you then have to goe through the process of changeing battery again. i have also got the doubble a batteries get stuck in it.
Didn’t work
Everyone who has tried this knows it doesn’t work 70% of the time…
What do you mean by not working?
This is great for immitation foam. But to get the texture AND taste you need high pressure steam to change the milk at the molecular level to bring out the sweetness in the milk.
Great point!