I think heating the milk in the microwave is easier. With a little experiment, you can figure out the exact time you need in the microwave to reach your desired temperature.
Public Service Announcement. If you're going to attempt latte art with Nespresso "espresso" (especially the Vertuo that I have), the crema on Nespressos is usually too thick for doing latte art. I think Nespresso engineers it to produce that extra, artificial, aerated crema - but it's too thick for the nanofoam to move through. I was getting very frustrated with my results, then I decided to spoon most of the crema off the top of the Nespresso shot. It helps to leave some of it there to create a nice contrast. As soon as I did that, the nanofoam was making nice, striated ripples.
I reported it today as inappropriate. Could not find a report this ad button as a scam. Click the little i icon in the body of the ad. At least that is what let me do it.
There is a little section somewhere on the screen to report an ad but only while it’s running. So you gotta be quick. The problem is I doubt TH-cam will take action on it anytime soon. They are super slow to act on ads purely because they don’t fall under the same rules as channel content.
@@greencoffeejk3464 someone hijacked the Niche video ad from indegogo and then there is a link to a random domain and they have a discount on it. People pay and then the domain is deactivated and people are out money.
4:09 I guess Morgan isn't the only one who spills coffee haha. Great to know that this frother can be a good alternative. Flair owners have a reliable option for lattes now.
I imagine because no steam is involved in the process of microfoaming the texture should be fuller than using a steam wand since no water was added in the process. Did you notice any taste and texture differences with Nanofoamer?
Your way of showing and generally approaching the mistakes you make is great! (Also having your God shot video in mind here) Social media is filled with all sorts of bs and perfect pours! As a person who used to work as a barista at a specialty Coffee shop with high standards, I tend to set my expectations too high (and too wasteful) for home use, and I find your content very pleasing!👐 It inspires me to change my approach, at least!
Thank you my friend! I’m glad you feel that way, and it’s always been a goal of mine to remain transparent when it comes to my flaws. It’s important to show the mess ups and the triumphs, because we all do it. That’s life. Thanks for watching and the thoughtful comment.
@@Sprometheus Hi. I just got the NanoFoamer v2 (with AA batteries) today. When I use it perpendicularly, I hear that sound (buzzing) very fine, everything seems good. The problem occurs when I tilt it to the recommended position, the sound changes (the buzzing becomes stronger, as if a small object touches something else, such as the existence of a small gap between two components). Do you have the same hearing sound? I don't know if it's normal or not...
Thanks for this. Highly practical for folks who have a manual espresso rig. How would you say this compares to a Bellman stovetop steamer? Up until this video, the Bellman seemed like perhaps the best way to go in concert with a manual espresso maker. If this is better that's great since it's also less expensive.
It’s he’s to compare it to the Bellman because the use of steam is kind of a two for one as it heats and textures. But the Nanofoamer can texture milk as well as a steam, if you don’t mind the extra step of heating it.
The Nanofoamer is a good idea though I wish I had waited for version 2. The power button is hard to hold down and the screens keep falling off into the milk. With some minor tweaks to the design this will become a very good product.
Went back and forth on backing this, but decided it wasn't something that was essential to my life for now. Thanks for the video, though! It seems like a neat project.
What I noticed with your video and other peoples videos about this product, is that it seem like you have to press the button down hard and keep your finger on it. I wish it were just a simple switch on/off button instead of constant pressure.
Yeah, that’s true. It can get a little tiring to press it down hard the whole time. May be worth looking at updating to an on/off option in the next version.
@@Sprometheus The developer said it might happen but it's harder because the device is fully waterproof so they can use a slider on/off. Maybe something like an electric toothbrush button?
I just got mine but I couldn't believe how hard you have to press the button or it goes off, can't really recommend this just because of the power button
@@Sprometheus Thankyou so much for the reply! I have used an aerolatte for a while and I agree, getting good results consistently is difficult/impossible. If you think its a lot better, I might pick one up and see how much better it is!
Sold! This will make a nice addition to my coffee travel kit. With my aeropress + fellow prismo I get something close enough to espresso. Heating up some milk and then foaming with this would be the icing on the cake. That's a good analogy isn't it? :) Thanks for reviewing, and bringing to my attention, Sprometheus!
It definitely will make a solid addition! It will be coming with me to see family on the holidays along with a manual machine to keep my daily coffee program rolling.
If budget is not an issue I highly recommend 9barista espresso machine, it’s compact, beautifully design with clever engineering to produce the pressure for actual espresso. I bring that along with all my camping trips.
Just love those ads where people, when using cheap Ikea frothers that do the job for fraction of the price, are so clumsy and make a mess, yet when they use the product advertised their hand is so steady and all of a sudden they're masters of latte art. So realistic. Shut up and take my money!
I just say to them when they illustrate at Costco or other places like that, “LOOK ZIP IT- HERE IS MY WALLET AND MY BANK ACCOUNT ROUTING NUMBERS TAKE WHAT YOU WANT AND NEED AND JUST LEAVE ME OUT OF IT, I WILL BE AT HOME PLAYING WITH MY NEW TOY- THANK YOU AND GOOD BYE” you have to be forceful with them.
I understand with the review that you were comparing the Nanofoamer to a steam wand, but how does it differ from an $8 milk frother wand from say Target or Walmart? My Bodum seems to do a pretty consistent job for me. I don't mean to sound critical of the review, you did a very nice job. I just can't figure out what ~$30 extra would do for me. Thanks for your content.
Yeah, he didn’t really go into that. The mesh is considerably finer than all the other frother wands (there’s also an Ikea one in addition to the ones you mention). This means you actually have a chance of making microfoam that can stay suspended in the milk rather than froth, which tends to float
Does single origin coffee require less dial in rather than the others for speciality coffee industry ? I find them more consistent and easier to handle than lights roasts for instance, but I could be very wrong. Looking forward to your response ! Regards, Marian!
I haven’t actually thought that one type of coffee is easier to dial than others, but I do think some coffees are more versatile and forgiving, which can lead to an easier time getting a good shot or brew.
I’ve had some coffee from Tim, and it’s good. Difficult to dial purely because it’s so light. But still enjoyable. I think as a roast style it’s got it’s own unique flair, and isn’t for everyone but I always love trying out different roasters because most of them have very different styles.
In my opinion, to use a French Press to texturing milk, is the best option if you dont have a espresso machine, but I never try these NANOFOAMER. Seems interesting!
Same, incorperating does fail at times. Even while counting the plunches I still get mixed results. One other thing, I really started to dislike cleaning the French press. Clean it first and your nice flat white goes cold or do it after and the milk is horrendous and baked on the French press.
@@Mongiloyd one way to delay the 'baked on' thing is to fill the french press up with water and immerse the plunger in it. You can deal with washing the french press later without needing to deal with all that nastiness.
I have a burning question. I have a espresso machine but it wasn't expensive, sub £100. I just can't seem to get the foam right, and I need to know is it because my technique isn't refined enough yet or because the machine isn't up to scratch for the job? Is it possible to get nanofoam with a cheap machine or do you need an expensive one??
comes down to volume of steam, if it can make a vigorous whirlpool in your jug you are probably ok, if not then consider getting a single boiler to start with, they have good steam pressure.. like a rancilio silvia if you can find second hand they are good :)
What about microwaving in a mug? Should be more efficient than the stove. Is this a US thing? When I lived there I did notice people heating kettles on the stove a lot more than in the UK, where everyone has electric kettles
Hey dude. Not about the video but I did your Aeropress filter / french press trick from IG and came with a super clean cup, along with a longer steep with the Hoffmann crust break and skim at 4 min. (6min total rather than the 10-12 for regular Hoff FP.) AP filter fit perfectly on my tiny 350ml FP. I enjoyed it very much. Now, if there was a Kickstarter for cleaning french presses automatically.
Whenever I've used a whisk like these before I found you needed at least like 9-10 oz of milk to get a good texture for pouring. I was wondering if you had similar issues with this one?
Thankyou for making this review was able to back this project yesterday, and now am glad I did it after seeing this. Since I was looking at multiple steam ward alternative for ages to get the microfoam texture in the milk based drinks to complement my flair espresso..
Just thought if we add a mesh to the bottom of milk frother , is it can make a microfoam like Nanofoamer do? . unfortunately I don't have a milk frother to try 😭
It's significantly better. I've tried everything: nespresso brand frothers, other brand frothers, 3 diff handheld frothers. This is the only thing I've used that produces microfoam.
Honestly I never even used the fine, didn’t see the point since most of the conversation was around if it could create latte art foam, and I was able to get both latte art and classic cappuccino with the super fine.
@@Sprometheus I use refillables with a ceramic burr grinder with my Nespresso - can't control the grind quantity but can control the tamp and grind setting (which controls the brew time). Why do this rather than a regular espresso machine??? Because first thing in the morning all I can do is drop in a capsule and push a button - I'm not functional enough to use a more complicated machine until AFTER I have had a couple shots. My Nanofoamer works great with my Nespresso, btw. Sold my Aeroccino.
I just say to them when they illustrate at Costco or other places like that, “LOOK ZIP IT- HERE IS MY WALLET AND MY BANK ACCOUNT ROUTING NUMBERS TAKE WHAT YOU WANT AND NEED AND JUST LEAVE ME OUT OF IT, I WILL BE AT HOME PLAYING WITH MY NEW TOY- THANK YOU AND GOOD BYE” you have to be forceful with them.
I think heating the milk in the microwave is easier. With a little experiment, you can figure out the exact time you need in the microwave to reach your desired temperature.
Public Service Announcement. If you're going to attempt latte art with Nespresso "espresso" (especially the Vertuo that I have), the crema on Nespressos is usually too thick for doing latte art. I think Nespresso engineers it to produce that extra, artificial, aerated crema - but it's too thick for the nanofoam to move through. I was getting very frustrated with my results, then I decided to spoon most of the crema off the top of the Nespresso shot. It helps to leave some of it there to create a nice contrast. As soon as I did that, the nanofoam was making nice, striated ripples.
How do we report the Niche grinder ad? Got it on yours and James Hoffman’s video today. Pretty messed up someone can hijack an ad and scam people.
I reported it today as inappropriate. Could not find a report this ad button as a scam. Click the little i icon in the body of the ad. At least that is what let me do it.
There is a little section somewhere on the screen to report an ad but only while it’s running. So you gotta be quick.
The problem is I doubt TH-cam will take action on it anytime soon. They are super slow to act on ads purely because they don’t fall under the same rules as channel content.
What was going on? Just curious if it was Fellow scamming people or someone else hijacking the ad
@@greencoffeejk3464 someone hijacked the Niche video ad from indegogo and then there is a link to a random domain and they have a discount on it. People pay and then the domain is deactivated and people are out money.
4:09 I guess Morgan isn't the only one who spills coffee haha.
Great to know that this frother can be a good alternative. Flair owners have a reliable option for lattes now.
I think it's really cool that it comes with a pitcher, even more helpful for the flair owners
We all spill from time to time, and it’ll be a great partner for any manual espresso machine, that’s for sure.
@@lukesodomin6711 wait, it does?
@@MegaKiri11 No, it's a seperate product
as a flair 58 shopper, I feel very underwhelmed by my milk steaming options
I imagine because no steam is involved in the process of microfoaming the texture should be fuller than using a steam wand since no water was added in the process. Did you notice any taste and texture differences with Nanofoamer?
The texture seems to be very similar when you get it right. The flavor, was similar too, didn’t notice enough of a difference to call it out.
Simple, effective, and inexpensive. Great to see products like this.
Agreed! All positive things!
Any word on the expected retail price if it comes to market? Would love to try it out if the price is right!
@@neiluk4109 good question but I’m not sure. I would guess ad like 20% of the Kickstarter price from what I’ve seen from other new products.
Your way of showing and generally approaching the mistakes you make is great! (Also having your God shot video in mind here)
Social media is filled with all sorts of bs and perfect pours! As a person who used to work as a barista at a specialty Coffee shop with high standards, I tend to set my expectations too high (and too wasteful) for home use, and I find your content very pleasing!👐 It inspires me to change my approach, at least!
Thank you my friend! I’m glad you feel that way, and it’s always been a goal of mine to remain transparent when it comes to my flaws. It’s important to show the mess ups and the triumphs, because we all do it. That’s life. Thanks for watching and the thoughtful comment.
@@Sprometheus Hi. I just got the NanoFoamer v2 (with AA batteries) today. When I use it perpendicularly, I hear that sound (buzzing) very fine, everything seems good. The problem occurs when I tilt it to the recommended position, the sound changes (the buzzing becomes stronger, as if a small object touches something else, such as the existence of a small gap between two components). Do you have the same hearing sound? I don't know if it's normal or not...
Thanks for this. Highly practical for folks who have a manual espresso rig. How would you say this compares to a Bellman stovetop steamer? Up until this video, the Bellman seemed like perhaps the best way to go in concert with a manual espresso maker. If this is better that's great since it's also less expensive.
It’s he’s to compare it to the Bellman because the use of steam is kind of a two for one as it heats and textures. But the Nanofoamer can texture milk as well as a steam, if you don’t mind the extra step of heating it.
The Nanofoamer is a good idea though I wish I had waited for version 2. The power button is hard to hold down and the screens keep falling off into the milk. With some minor tweaks to the design this will become a very good product.
I broke mine open and soldered it to a 5V power supply. So much better :)
Went back and forth on backing this, but decided it wasn't something that was essential to my life for now. Thanks for the video, though! It seems like a neat project.
Of course, just wanted to provide my feedback on it. Thanks for watching!
What I noticed with your video and other peoples videos about this product, is that it seem like you have to press the button down hard and keep your finger on it. I wish it were just a simple switch on/off button instead of constant pressure.
Yeah, that’s true. It can get a little tiring to press it down hard the whole time. May be worth looking at updating to an on/off option in the next version.
@@Sprometheus The developer said it might happen but it's harder because the device is fully waterproof so they can use a slider on/off. Maybe something like an electric toothbrush button?
I just got mine but I couldn't believe how hard you have to press the button or it goes off, can't really recommend this just because of the power button
Is this wildly better than an aerolatte or similar?
I would say it’s better. Those screens give you a little more control and accuracy to the aeration process.
@@Sprometheus Thankyou so much for the reply! I have used an aerolatte for a while and I agree, getting good results consistently is difficult/impossible. If you think its a lot better, I might pick one up and see how much better it is!
Sold! This will make a nice addition to my coffee travel kit. With my aeropress + fellow prismo I get something close enough to espresso. Heating up some milk and then foaming with this would be the icing on the cake. That's a good analogy isn't it? :) Thanks for reviewing, and bringing to my attention, Sprometheus!
It definitely will make a solid addition! It will be coming with me to see family on the holidays along with a manual machine to keep my daily coffee program rolling.
@@Sprometheus which manual machine do you travel with? Just curious... (If I was to guess I'd say The Flair)
If budget is not an issue I highly recommend 9barista espresso machine, it’s compact, beautifully design with clever engineering to produce the pressure for actual espresso. I bring that along with all my camping trips.
Just love those ads where people, when using cheap Ikea frothers that do the job for fraction of the price, are so clumsy and make a mess, yet when they use the product advertised their hand is so steady and all of a sudden they're masters of latte art. So realistic. Shut up and take my money!
I just say to them when they illustrate at Costco or other places like that, “LOOK ZIP IT- HERE IS MY WALLET AND MY BANK ACCOUNT ROUTING NUMBERS TAKE WHAT YOU WANT AND NEED AND JUST LEAVE ME OUT OF IT, I WILL BE AT HOME PLAYING WITH MY NEW TOY- THANK YOU AND GOOD BYE” you have to be forceful with them.
4:11 Thanks for this! I‘m happy to see that this still happens to the best... 😂
Happens a lot more than you’d think, but figured I’d leave it in for realism, haha.
It happens to me a lot!
I understand with the review that you were comparing the Nanofoamer to a steam wand, but how does it differ from an $8 milk frother wand from say Target or Walmart? My Bodum seems to do a pretty consistent job for me. I don't mean to sound critical of the review, you did a very nice job. I just can't figure out what ~$30 extra would do for me. Thanks for your content.
Yeah, he didn’t really go into that. The mesh is considerably finer than all the other frother wands (there’s also an Ikea one in addition to the ones you mention). This means you actually have a chance of making microfoam that can stay suspended in the milk rather than froth, which tends to float
@@mattscarf Ahh. Ok. That makes sense. Thanks so much for the clarification.
Does single origin coffee require less dial in rather than the others for speciality coffee industry ? I find them more consistent and easier to handle than lights roasts for instance, but I could be very wrong.
Looking forward to your response !
Regards, Marian!
I haven’t actually thought that one type of coffee is easier to dial than others, but I do think some coffees are more versatile and forgiving, which can lead to an easier time getting a good shot or brew.
Not related to the video - but any thoughts on nordic roasting? Places like Tim Wendelboe, etc.
I’ve had some coffee from Tim, and it’s good. Difficult to dial purely because it’s so light. But still enjoyable.
I think as a roast style it’s got it’s own unique flair, and isn’t for everyone but I always love trying out different roasters because most of them have very different styles.
In my opinion, to use a French Press to texturing milk, is the best option if you dont have a espresso machine, but I never try these NANOFOAMER. Seems interesting!
I’ve used a French Press as well, but I did find it difficult to get the foam to blend smoothly. That’s where this one really takes the lead for me.
@@Sprometheus worth trying then, thanks'
Same, incorperating does fail at times. Even while counting the plunches I still get mixed results. One other thing, I really started to dislike cleaning the French press. Clean it first and your nice flat white goes cold or do it after and the milk is horrendous and baked on the French press.
@@Mongiloyd one way to delay the 'baked on' thing is to fill the french press up with water and immerse the plunger in it. You can deal with washing the french press later without needing to deal with all that nastiness.
I have a burning question. I have a espresso machine but it wasn't expensive, sub £100. I just can't seem to get the foam right, and I need to know is it because my technique isn't refined enough yet or because the machine isn't up to scratch for the job? Is it possible to get nanofoam with a cheap machine or do you need an expensive one??
comes down to volume of steam, if it can make a vigorous whirlpool in your jug you are probably ok, if not then consider getting a single boiler to start with, they have good steam pressure.. like a rancilio silvia if you can find second hand they are good :)
Based on my experience, it's better to heat the pitcher using induction stove rather than the gas
Maybe that’s the case, but I had to use what I have.
What about microwaving in a mug? Should be more efficient than the stove. Is this a US thing? When I lived there I did notice people heating kettles on the stove a lot more than in the UK, where everyone has electric kettles
@@mattscarf They have half the volts so their electric kettles take twice as long to boil. Maybe the hob is quicker?
@@Rainyfeels Oh good point; I should have remembered, I’m sure I’ve seen this as an explanation before Microwave probably still better, though
Huh, pretty cool option for people who don't have a machine! Love my machine, but would probably be using the nanofoamer if I didn't have one honestly
Yeah I’m in the same boat. Would definitely use one if I was a daily manual machine user.
Came here for the nanofoamer, but now I want that milk pitcher.. Looks really nice. Do you know where I can get it?
Thanks a lot for the review cant wait to get mine.
You’re welcome, thanks for watching and I’m sure you’ll love it!
Didn’t really work for me (latte art) but I don’t have espresso machine just Moka stove top espresso.. the drinks are delicious tho
Hey dude. Not about the video but I did your Aeropress filter / french press trick from IG and came with a super clean cup, along with a longer steep with the Hoffmann crust break and skim at 4 min. (6min total rather than the 10-12 for regular Hoff FP.)
AP filter fit perfectly on my tiny 350ml FP.
I enjoyed it very much. Now, if there was a Kickstarter for cleaning french presses automatically.
Thank you my friend! Glad you enjoyed it!
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Whenever I've used a whisk like these before I found you needed at least like 9-10 oz of milk to get a good texture for pouring. I was wondering if you had similar issues with this one?
Well the cup I used in this video was only 7oz, so I was using maybe 5-6oz to texture, so it appears to work well even with smaller amounts.
@@Sprometheus good to know. Seems like a pretty good product then.
SUP Sprometheus, I was wondering if you were interested in reviewing the Bialetti Brikka... I'm looking to buy one IF it makes an espresso like drink.
It’s on my radar, I’ll likely get ahold of one at some point.
Great video, may I ask if it can froth/texture cold milk? For use on making freddo? thank you
Thanks for watching, and absolutely it will definitely texture cold milk.
Kool thanks for the reply.
Thankyou for making this review was able to back this project yesterday, and now am glad I did it after seeing this. Since I was looking at multiple steam ward alternative for ages to get the microfoam texture in the milk based drinks to complement my flair espresso..
Of course, and thanks for watching. I’m sure you’ll enjoy it!
Beautiful Spro! Love it 😍
Thank you my friend!
Just thought if we add a mesh to the bottom of milk frother , is it can make a microfoam like Nanofoamer do? . unfortunately I don't have a milk frother to try 😭
Ordered one... curious if it will actually arrive...
What about taste? How does it compare to milk steamed on the Linea mini? Excellent review overall! Thanks i
Imagine if espresso machines of the future don’t have steam wands anymore and it’s just a nanofoamer wand
Haha I see that being a hard sell because you’ll still need to heat the milk. The wand is a two for one.
The Bad ending
Wish if the impeller was made of stainless steel instead of plastic
Hi just wondering how many ounces is your black Lino cup? Thanks!
Hey! That is the double cappuccino size, I believe it’s 6oz
How different is this in your opinion from the handheld frothers that some have used for years to get microfoam ?
It's significantly better. I've tried everything: nespresso brand frothers, other brand frothers, 3 diff handheld frothers. This is the only thing I've used that produces microfoam.
No comparison between the two screens?
Honestly I never even used the fine, didn’t see the point since most of the conversation was around if it could create latte art foam, and I was able to get both latte art and classic cappuccino with the super fine.
For the plant-based milks, the fine screen is probably required since they’re more difficult to foam
Was wondering if this was gonna be worth. Thanks for the vid my man 💪🏻
Of course! Thanks for watching
can you check that 10000 rpm claim ?
I can’t count that fast, but in the end my biggest concern would be if it works as advertised.
Seriously like your vids
Thank you my friend!
What coffee machine does he use
La Marzocco Linea Mini
@@Sprometheus thanks
What's your take on fully automatic pod coffee machines like Nespresso... Please give your tips to make it more exciting... Thanks
How to improve the automatic cappuccinos ...
It’s hard to make improvements on something you don’t have control over unfortunately.
@@Sprometheus I use refillables with a ceramic burr grinder with my Nespresso - can't control the grind quantity but can control the tamp and grind setting (which controls the brew time). Why do this rather than a regular espresso machine??? Because first thing in the morning all I can do is drop in a capsule and push a button - I'm not functional enough to use a more complicated machine until AFTER I have had a couple shots. My Nanofoamer works great with my Nespresso, btw. Sold my Aeroccino.
I'm from Nigeria please can you help me or body and 150 120kg can you reduce how many how many packet my name is bilkisu from Nigeria
This milk frother milk be Flair best friend.
That's the thing, it's not better sampler or consistent than a stem, so if you have espresso machine it would help as i understand
Glad to be early again
Thanks for coming by!
Who is the fake sprometheus?
Still waiting for an answer
Thank you for the video! Now I feel less of a buyer’s remorse 😉
Happy to help! Thanks for watching
@@Sprometheus , I really dig your approach. Cheers! ⬛️
Always like your video but I think it’ll be more comfortable to see your hand gestures while you talk.
He’s not a rapper or an ape
I just say to them when they illustrate at Costco or other places like that, “LOOK ZIP IT- HERE IS MY WALLET AND MY BANK ACCOUNT ROUTING NUMBERS TAKE WHAT YOU WANT AND NEED AND JUST LEAVE ME OUT OF IT, I WILL BE AT HOME PLAYING WITH MY NEW TOY- THANK YOU AND GOOD BYE” you have to be forceful with them.