This MegaTower Has A Dark Past (Ponte Tower / Peach Trees)
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Feels like a prison without the tower in the center.
yeah i see what you mean. the panopticon
And they literally have a video about the Panopticon lol
thats the point.
Mandela effect
@@7x779 Fedora Effect
She just casually dropped the 23 bodies and just kept going like she didn't say that
It's a TH-cam short
I was wondering about that also
Yeah I already knew the rest of that stuff wanted to hear about the 23 bodies
To focus on all the white.
@@youraveragepasser-by7367 it's not mentioned in the full video either
My son lived on the 52nd floor during 2014, 2015. The apartments are beautiful and spacious,
The lifts were a bit slow
the apartments are beautiful but the lack of safety in that area makes it a not so great place to be. My aunt still lives there, I'd like to visit her but the environment is too stressful for me to navigate
LOL hou op so lieg.
It looks horrible
@@manusb6441Dude it's not like the place is secluded 🤦♂️🤦♂️you could rent it
Okay now I wanna go there and just see what it looks like. It's in Hillbrow neh? Ish but I'm scared of Hillbrow and never thought of Hillbrow as having anything beautiful. I wanna check it out just for curiosity.
See this tower almost everyday, as a South African in Johannesburg it is well known to stay clear of that area regardless of it being refurbished, Johannesburg Central is not safe 😂avoid it
What is safe there?
fr bro
@@antontk2531*nothing* ... absolutely nothing
🤣🤣🤣 on your best day... Just don't.
Joburg is best avoided in its entirety is my experience
I grew up in Johannesburg, They revitalised the tower, but not he surrounding area, so its falling into the same state it was before as the people buying fancy apartments there can't get there without being robbed. Literally an island of wealth in a sea of despair.
Yeah don't they still throw trash down the middle?
@@Shellieb013sounds like it's surrounded by trash.
@@MungeParty failure to redistribute wealth following apartheid.
@@justcommenting4981no, failure to run the country.
@@roche320 correct. By failing to fully redistribute wealth from the people who previously failed to run the country and collapsed it. Much like the American south after the civil war, the failing was in withholding the coup de gras from the deposed masters and giving their ill-gotten wealth to the masses that produced it.
There should be a monument for the cleaning crew
They just had a few tiktokers come in with pressure washers
Imagine if they found 23 ALIVE bodies
better than 15k dead body in an air prison called gaza
@@jauhar.pahlevi🇮🇱
@@JustAdreamGuy1 🇵🇸
It's inherently a hellhole. You couldn't pay me to live in there
You couldn't pay me to go to south africa right now.
@@larryroyovitz7829thanks stay where you are
It's not anymore, they fixed it.
@@larryroyovitz7829good don't come, if you could take your people in SA to come and live with you we would be so thankful 😊
@@mooncake387
Yeahh, no. SA isn't any better since 2017.
They didn't cut them off from essential municipal services, the new gangster residents just didn't pay for them.
nope they cut them off before they were there. maybe if you did your research instead of prattling on feeding your own stories
@@Ya-seesSounds kinda like you’re coping
@@boogieheads not really he's just wrong
@@boogieheadscope
I'm a south African and they building was highjacked by foreign nationals and then cut off from utilities
"23 dead bodies..."
You CANNOT start a short off like that.
Ikr . Then there was no explanation about the bodies lol
From what I googled and saw here in the comments. Basically, during the clean-up, the 23 bodies were found amongst the rubble and trash. It was never investigated into and was speculated to be people who jumped off from the higher stories or nearby gang activity. There's not much to find otherwise.
@@yyg4632 It was taken over by gangs and people dumped "trash" in the middle
She can and she did 😂😂
@@zachall101yeah, she's kinda bad at this. "I met Shaq! He saved me from a fire... but, hey, you wanna hear about what I had for lunch, today?
i love when you explained how the bodies got there
People threw themselves in there unfortunately, sad reality. May also be murders but imo I think it’s mostly suicide
Why would she not explain it
She did say she made a video about it so if you want to know more just watch the vid🙄
“And gangs moved in.”
@@KZDaGOATshe didn’t explain the bodies in full vid too.
The Tower sounds like a metaphor for the entire country, except without a cleanup.
This building is so famous outside South africa. Inside, we couldn't care less.
It’s a symbol what happens if incompetent mob gets to power.
The part where she explained the 23 dead bodies was so cool
There should be a report button for that.
Thanks for saying it here so I didn't get disappointed, there really should be a notice or something for that
The building was overtaken by gangs and they threw dead people over the edge. Some also jumped to commit suicide.
I dunno, maybe if you put two and two together and used common sense, you'd infer the bodies came from criminal activities
It's pretty self explanatory... Gang violence, suicide, murder. I'm pretty sure it's not some weird ritualistic feeling that needs its own explanation.
There's something poetic about a building resembling a giant trash bin ultimately becoming one.
Well the building was made for trash
@@darkknight9742made for luxury, they let the garbage in and the whole thing became a landfill. Speaks volumes about the people they wanted to keep out. But you cope in any way you can bud, the evidence speaks for itself and it’s not in your favor.
@@XGrimzukiX come to peoples countries and try to keep them out, then you accuse me of coping, your mom and dad must have been relatives.
@@darkknight9742 What do you mean by "come to people's countries and try to keep them out"? Johannesburg itself was founded by the Dutch, and believe it or not, the Dutch population is older than the Bantu population (which represents the majority now). The area was originally settled by San hunter-gatherers, then came the Dutch in the 1600's, then after a brief war they lived alongside one another in peace. Then came the Bantu migration which pretty much destroyed the San population and drove out most non-Bantu africans living in the area. Not understanding the history of the area is dangerous.
@@999mi999yes, very few people know that bantus are not native to south Africa
Imagine thinking that it's not going to go right back to the way it was 20 years ago.
Just more evidence that apartheid is the only way....
Not 20 but 40 years ago. lack of resources and poverty has made Ponte and the surrounding areas a mess
@@xenaidaschronicles2300ah yes the classic im poor so ill just throw my trash out the window and let it pile around my house. Being poor dosent do that
@@umadxdlol6930But a certain demographic has no problems disposing their trash in this manner. In Chicago, where I used to live, the residents of the high rise projects would eliminate their garbage the very same way.
"Maw Maw's not the law, I'M THE LAW."
Make the call Rookie
I was thinking this when I heard this lady start talking.
I wondered if that was one of the films. I'm blind though so so obviously can't visually check anymore
Circular buildings always have some illicit shit going on I swear. My hometown had a very famous circular building that was well known for being a massive crack den/distribution center in the 80’s
Google building goes with this trope
Haha not gonna lie alot of curved or circular buildings in my country also have alot of criminal activity around them😂😂😂
Yup, my city's got one too. The CN tower. The illicit shit is the price of admission and just about anything else.
Yeah two weird circle buildings, all circle buildings are weird. Yeah that logic definitely checks out.
Circles look like the full moon, full moon inspires crazy shit.
I used to drive past the Ponte almost weekly as a kid. Genuinely had quite an ominous aura about it.
damn, u been driving since u were a kid? how’d u reach the pedals?
Same. I didn't pass it to often but yea it just felt like a scary building. Now it all makes sense
Is it still scary with the revitalisation, or has it brightened up a bit?
@@raimarulightning as far as i know its like a hotel memorial kinda place
@@northDSXJa my bru, we can sommer drive from the age of 12 in South Africa. We wear special stilts on our shoes to reach the pedals.
which is a real shame, imagine how beautiful our country would be if our cities stayed Clean.
Taking away municipal services seems like a bad way to keep it 'clean'.
@@MrNoodlyone wrong thing to "take away".
@@guardiantko3220 I was not there so I don't know. Humans, as a group, are predictable.
The context is a little off though. With the fall of racist apartheid ideology, white people abandoned the Johannesburg city center, and with that demographic shift, urban decay set in. The 23 dead bodies in the pile of trash storeys tall falls into the urban decay part of Johannesburg's history post democracy, and the trash pile in that tower is emblematic of challenges the democratic government has faced, with trash piling up along the railways leading up to Park Station, in the streets and storm drainage systems across the city center.
The government (neither apartheid nor democratic) didn't [allegedly] cut off Ponte from utilities for race reasons, but rather for debt reasons. As far as I remember living nearby, there's always been electricity at Ponte, on its Coca-Cola signage, later on the Vodacom and in the apartments alike. It's always been lit.
With a fall of racist apartheid what happened with racism in SA? Looks like it wasn’t a biggest problem
@@antontk2531 Racism is still a problem here in South Africa. I do think that in general we try and stop it... but there are those that are extremely racist (in all racial groups) ... I love my country and we are all trying to make it a better place... AND we voting tomorrow - so we all gotta do our bit for a "better tomorrow".
Thank you for adding context :)
@@antontk2531 It seems like there's a little confusion there. Because apartheid was a system largely based on race, it was a racist ideology. Now, what happened after apartheid ended with racism is that racism continues in all walks of life. The extent to which it continues and its affects on this country would probably be best addressed by untired eyes, with no biases.
Lastly, you say that racism wasn't the biggest problem for SA. The problem with this is mobility, opportunity, generational wealth - the very things that systems like apartheid would have locked away for the majority of people in this country and its Bantustans. Insufficient policing, infrastructure, standards of living, and so on, are all very long tails of apartheid. Could the democratic government have done a better job with post apartheid South Africa? One only need look at South Korea over the past half century for that answer.
I love the part where she explained how those 23 bodies got there
Right? So insightful. I never knew about that.
I live in SA, its self-unaliving(s), people jumped from the top.
Or murder
@@gorgeoussupergemaj5991 Possible yes, im just going off of what people have told me. Its likely that its a mixture of both.
Jumpers
It’s far from being a symbol of rejuvenation. Apart from its history and surrounding urban decay, there are glaring design issues within the building itself that makes it an undesirable place to live.
For example? That's interesting
@@jero667
Black people.
They are the design issue.
The wealthy left the building because of the soweto uprising. Had nothing to do with the building design
@@jero667a lot. It’s got a poor insulation envelope, the benefit of a shorter hollow building would be light but it’s too tall so little light reaches the bottom of the central core. Corridors to reach apartments take up living space.
Apart from, you say?
Race insertion ✅️ lack of explanations ✅️
You can take the savages out of the jungle, but you cannot take the jungle out of the savages
They didn't punish them, they were squatting, the building had been partially abandoned because the owners couldn't evict the squatters, that's why they didn't have services.
Such minor details are irrelevant when we talk about racial opression by white colonizres.
@@DzinkyDzink I hope that's sarcasm
@@DzinkyDzinkcry me a river
Mol
No one oppressed anyone
My great uncle lived in the penthouse at the top back in the 80s. Sadly in the 90s he was shot and killed while walking from his business to his car (he owned a chain of bakeries in Johannesburg)
What chain of bakeries did he own?
Who killed him may I ask? How did the person look like?
@toiletpaperjones6820 He owned a bakery chain under the name Belém, and a restaurant called Campino. I've just googled the bakery and there seems to be one in Johannesburg going under that name, not sure if its the same one.
@irinafms We arent sure. I think it made it into the local newspaper at the time, my great uncle's name was Americo
@@Tatterboy Actually, it was probably your mom.
Imagine how bad that place was that nobody notices the smell of 23 dead bodies
Took occupation in 2012 till 2016 , the apartments were very beautiful and the city lights from the room 3404 was magical.
I’m South African and in my whole 39 years. I have never set foot in that building and I believe I’ll never do so.
Believe it or not but you won’t step foot in most other buildings as well
@@KUWAITGRIPSVEVO and I passed it this Wednesday
@@makhosazana7384 well I make a point of setting foot in every building I pass by, be it my hometown or a city I’m visiting. One trip down a highway becomes a week of touring every apartment, office and warehouse alongside it. Get on my level
I was in that building and it was a fantastic building until the criminals moved in
@@auntyalex7howe996 You Spelled “the Blacks” wrong
There's a similar building in São Paulo, Brazil (aside from the circular design lol) called Martinelli
It's a huge building downtown with multiple vertical shafts for ventilation, and a specially big one in the middle
It used to be a prestigious hotel and had multiple business levels, but it went bankrupt and the apartments were sold as individual units for cheap
After 20 years, it had become a vertical slum, with deactivated levels and only a few functional elevators, crime ran rampant and people went missing all the time there
People would avoid waking near the building's entrance because criminals would grab people and lead them inside, either for robbing them or worse
After the state government bought the building and started renovating it, they found multiple bodies under tons of trash in the ventilation and elevators shafts
Que história horrorosa! Eu já tinha ficado impressionada quando vi o documentário sobre o Copan, mas esse Martinelli é incomparável. ..
Born and raised in South Africa, I'm turning 17 this month and I only just discovered what that building is😂always thought it was a factory of some sort
Everyone here wondering about the bodies. This is Hillbrow, one of the scariest places in South Africa. To put it in perspective. 4000 people died there last year. most from gunshot wounds. These are registered by FPS. Bodies received by an FPS are those that have died from unnatural causes or sudden unexpected deaths. But yeah. don't go there without a guide. Or someone from here.
As a south African, I can tell you that these facts she is giving us are wrong -Ponti became a drug haven , infested with criminals who did not pay for their services or rent -and to this day I wouldn't advise going there - the same has happened to the Carlton Hotel in central Johannesburg - these major cities are no-go areas and business have developed new city centers that are better policed
Yup, this is why the world is full of shit, people believe anything they see
she is right and gavin is wrong
thats what happened when they ended apartheid
Gavin is spot on right. Why would you say he is wrong? Bloody contrarians
You know what race Gavin is from. 😂😂😂😂. Your bias is showing buddy
Joburg is by no means a symbol for restoration.
South Africa’s murder rate is now 7x higher than America’s, don’t think there’s a ton of urban renewal going around
I’m a big fan of urban renewal. Either make it a field or make it nice and put it back in use.
Why don’t you go and stay there for a week ?
Gonna be educational for renewal lover
South Africa : Ponte Tower
Hong Kong : Kowloon Walled City
Not the same thing.
@@lyallpivo9835 a little similar in that people used these places for criminal activity.
Blame apartheid too ?
@@lyallpivo9835I mean they do have similar origins in that they both were defined by being populated by people at the margins of society.
Oh that one in South America that now is torn down but that was like a city... too 😊
This is not exactly true. The services were cut off because the building was taken over by black residents who refused to pay. Many buildings were hijacked when apartheid ended and suffered the same fate
Thank you! I came to say this!
@@kirstyventer6019 They keep using it as a shield without any critical thinking or objectivity and it's frustrating. What South Africa has now is ten times worse than apartheid
@@zentodale Your mindset is a sad one to have. If you honestly believe that brutalizing, stealing, pillaging and violating human rights is a "better" system for a country, then you have no hope. Not an ounce of critical thought and it's damn sad.
I don't beleive you
You obviously talking about the ANC....@@lindisamathabela3192
Lived there in 1980 with my mom and 2 sisters, loved it
I grew up in Ponte Tower i. The late 80s/early 90s. We walked to school, our upstairs neighbours were a mixed couple we attended parties (as kids) of our black neighbours. It was a nice building and was probably one of the more mixed neighbourhoods in joburg….
I’m so it did not fall into dispair as early as the 80s as she’s claiming 🤔
If my memory serves correct? It was closer to mid 90s 🤷♀️
True,the 80's comment in the video also threw me off. Seems a bit early
Little unnececesary fun fact - in Russia Joburg is short for Ekaterinburg.
Joburg is short for Johannesburg
I used to live there but I'm in Capetown now
What's the design choice to having it completely closed off? Seems like the lack of natural light would be a negative. Is it a structural thing?
It was most likely a post hoc rationalization subservient to the fact the architect thought it would be super cool to have like a cylinder building omg.
The idea was that the hole in the middle is to let the natural light in
@@izzatihassan1475doesn't mean you will get light all day. Specially if you live towards the lower floors
@@pookpook3891the lower floors were meant to be commercial floors for shops
@@izzatihassan1475no, the building code at the time required a window to be in the kitchen. By making it a cylinder you maximise the number of apartments while giving the living areas expansive views of the city, but also adhering to the code.
I lived there in the early 2000's, i vividly remember how scary power the power cuts were😂
I literally had a dream about this before, and the twist is, we were in the middle longing for us to jump in the bottom💀
..the fact that, I live in Johannesburg, and I see that tower everyday on my way to work. It is crazy that, I didn't know all this history.
The second name for the ponte tower was also suicide central 😳
@@zaneferreira1825 shuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuui
@@suvesharumugam the beautiful is beautiful. I just don't feel safe with the thought of me being inside there.
I had a friend lived in Ponte when it was built, it was a hip place then. Not sure the government had anything to do with switching the facilities off, this seems like a bullshit point as the whole of Hillbrow went to hell right at the end of apartheid. Nothing works there anymore.
It's a fake story.
I am South African.. and let me tell you the country's current state is so bad. Very dark place to live in many ways.
That’s sad to hear, I wish there was an answer to fix everything but sadly their isn’t just one answer to fix it all. I’m clueless and can’t offer advice and though I’m not religious I will pray for you all.
My sisters ex roommate traveled for a living and said South Africa was the scariest place she’s ever been to. Beautiful but she felt so unsafe and had to have an escort with her the whole time so she didn’t go in to the wrong parts of town 😔
Maybe Apartheid wasn’t such a bad idea
@@warrenb8228 Let's not go there.
@@warrenb8228Apartheid is the reason the problem exists. When you keep a section of the population in poverty and lack you create a security problem in the long run. But you're too selfish to see beyond your own comfort
My grandma lived here , she worked for some white lady, this building is soo fucking tall too, soo scary to think u could be pushed down
So that was like a dead body dumping sight. I’m glad they renovated it because it was an eyesore
This building started detiorating in the 90’s… after Apartheid because the building was highjacked. We are decades past apartheid and yet it still defines every mention of South-Africa. Yes…big mistakes have been made in the past and at this moment the whole country gets utilities such as electricity and water cut off for at least 6 hours (if we are lucky…mostly more) per day. This building symbolizes the decay of a corrupt government and the slow yet steady decay of South-Africa and no one pays attention because we haven’t given it a name. The decay of a single building is not as news worthy as the decay of an entire country’s infrastructure.
Yes... People doing a bit of selective reading and then think they know the whole story and make TH-cam videos about it. This is by NO MEANS the symbol of "urban of urban renewal", you need to go and look around the area also... That is shocking. So when the white people started moving out, those that stayed started throwing their trash down the middle and caused the building to deteriorate...
i love the part when you explain how the bodies get there, keep up the good work❤❤❤
Apartheid Was More Fair And Just To Whites And Blacks Than South Africa's Present Fascist Chaotic Government System !!!
She said it was taken over by gangs and the bodies were found during the revitalisation proces. You have a brain, right? Use it!
@@YamiKisara well it was never explicitly stated and I am sure others have been confused too, theres no need to be a dick about it though, Yami.
@@10bugsinatrenchcoat the hypocrisy is wild, the og commenter was dicking out about the fact that she didn't explain it to him like a fucking child how the bodies get there, yami only pointed out the obvious.
Lots of self delete. Yeah there was gang violence and stuff too but what I heard most about that building is that that’s where people go to self delete. Part of the reason. Fear moving there tbh.
The mayor at the time (in 2017 ) did a good job of revitalising some of the buildings in the city and I believe had he stayed on the city would be beautiful
The same occurred with the Martinelli, in São Paulo. When they revitalized it, seven bodies were found in the shafts os the elevator..
I think you need to gets your fact right, they didnt pay their bill and had their power and water cut, people started throwing trash in the core after apartheid had ened in 1995 and squatters took over. Playing the racial card about a country you no nothing about. I think you should be talking about how racialy divided south africa is after the ANC has been in power and how bad the country really is.
ANC is responsible for many things but not the racial division that's just apartheid's leftovers buddy. The fact that white people still don't queue at home affairs, sassa and other government facilities means it's apartheid's leftovers
You need to get your facts right! Apartheid ended pre 94 as South Africa had their first democratic election in 94 and had its first black president in 94. Obviously this could not take place during apartheid. 😂
@@RoxxonUnderRage refresh your reading comprehension skills before commenting.
@@sussurus dude.. I double checked what was written before commenting.. a comma makes the world of difference mf!
@@RoxxonUnderRage a comma is your comeback? Put some effort into at least.
Do you have a source on the government cutting municipal supplies because of black tenants? I couldn't find anything about that. In fact, from what I read the building fell into disrepair AFTER apartheid, not during...
Most likely they just didn't pay the bills
@@BacklTracktypical
The squatters didn't pay the bills so the services were cut off. Nothing to do with race or political motivations.
My family once stayed there in the 90's. I still stay in JHB and happy to see Africa on the map!
This is mostly incorrect, they weren't cut off from services as punishment the building was hijacked by slum lords shortly after apartheid ended along with many other buildings in Hillbrow. When lifts and other services stopped in the Ponte the tenants started throwing their trash down instead of walking it down. Was later used by drug lords as a stash house but ultimately the 23 victims could have been anyone for any reason. Since "freedom" South Africa has become a lawless wasteland, inner city Johannesburg is a clear example.
That road at the bottom of the tower is mainroad/highway. Everything surrounding it is deserted or destroyed. I travel that road every week atleast once. The entire city consists of drugs, murder, prostitution and only open stores are barber shops, Tyre shops and small Pakistani /Black owned convenience stores. Tiny, dirty and just carrying the bare minimum. Otherwise everything is just steel roller doors on once inhabited shops.
Sounds like ANime
last time i drove down under the bridge and was stopped by the robots, the road had people all over it. at least 3 people offering to wash my windows, beggers with and without limbs. kids adults and so on. had to zig zag around them. it reminded me of a apocalypse movie. The giant potholes were a nice finishing touch. Traffic lights and all other rules were ignored by all drivers.
Thanks for the context.
The building was cut off from essential services because it was hijacked and those tenants were not paying for those services.
I wish more South African creators could speak on the history of Ponte because international creators always seem to get something in it’s history wrong 😢
So true😂
What's the matter? Can't compete with a billion dollar propaganda machine?
Omg don't believe what she is saying. I had an aunt who lived there and she was by noway rich. She lived there because it was cheaper than other places. The services were cut off because when it was open to all races they did not pay there rent or electricity. You can't expect the owner to keep up with the mantaince when no money is coming in to pay for it. This is what happened to Johannesburg and why it became a slum.
They twist their story's to fit their agenda.
@@DzinkyDzinkright
30 Years ago it was a lovely place. Trendy. So wonder what happened then???
I lived on the 52nd floor in 2013. I think a few of the facts here are a little skewed. Building was renovated starting around 2008, and only a handful of dead bodies were found under the rubbish (trash) in the middle of the building. Still the wildest place I’ve ever lived :)
As someone who works in the real estate industry in South Africa, I can confirm that this happens everywhere in South Africa. When all the white, asian, and indian residents move out of a neighbourhood, the value of the neighbourhood collapses because the evaluators predict that the neighbourhood will turn to shit and they are usually right. The reason is that the residents from informal settlements or poorer areas are not used to cleaning and maintaining their property well and they often can't afford the rent so they rent out parts of their property for others which causes overcrowding and turns the place into a slum. Unfortunately, the source of the problem lies with the ANC where they keep cutting the housing budget by around R2 billion every year so that they can embezzle even more money. The ANC knows that the majority of their voters are poor so it's beneficial for the ANC to keep them poor.
Well said and true!!
This is very true!
Yes. From how she framed this story, it sounded like it was this luxury condo, that the evil government cut off from public services and infrastructure for no reason other than bigotry. And that all issues were magically solved when a new government came in to save the day. Reality is rarely so simple and clean cut.
So it safe to assume that prior to 1994 there were no slumps, the government of that time treated everyone equally, the slumps just popped up the same time the ANC got into power. This is interesting, I never really realised that 🤔
@@nkululekoxaba2035 During apartheid things were pretty good in South Africa if you weren't a Black. Nowadays they're pretty shitty for everyone.
That trash was in Chappie.
Was looking for this comment
Lol same
@@Roasted_Orphansamee
someone said it finally
Such a sad movie 😭😭😭
It's clean I've done the Ponte challenge where you climb the stairs to the top!!! I've never heard of 23 dead bodies
Always gets me how folks like this woman actually presents her story as if she knew what actually went down. Or that we would be gullible enough to believe her. There's a sucker born every minute.
Luxury flats are always the perfect first step for a dystopian setting. Just look at London.
The worst thing about London BY FAR is the mass immigration and everyone knows it.
Have you ever been to London?
Yeah, when certain groups of people start “living” in it.
@@johnakkman9993Oh, goody, the gutless racist has appeared. Really brave behind that monitor, mate.
What’s wrong with London?
LOL. I love how you ignore the entire hook and just go off on another tangent. How bout those bodies, aye?
The bodies where found in the trash
The area surrounding it has some of the highest levels of crime in the city and the country, there's no amount of cleaning or renovation that will redeem it. I'm even scared of going to it.
Awesome video ! Kinda grest they refurbished the building and didn’t let it remain trash.
Obviously or I mean I deduce from what she said, the bodies got there when the gangs ruled over it, people trowing over or just dumped and then subsequently trash was thrown on top of them over time.
This building is in the movie "Chappie" !! :0
The tower reminds me of IT (2017) when the kids are defeating Pennywise.
They gave its life back, it looks awesome after renovation. Nice 👍
The fact that i drive past this on the highway everytime i go visit my tannie and only now know the history behind this is crazy
The place looks so dystopian. Would make a fantastic prison. I'm not surprised it's been used in films.
Using it as a prison was actually proposed some time ago. More like holding cells for awaiting-trial prisoners, with the courts on the bottom floors.
This is where District 9 and Chappie were filmed. Great movies.
Drove past that building almost everyday for 23 years, never ever dreamed of going inside it
This remind me "la Torre de David" (David's tower) in Caracas, Venezuela. A rich dude, called David, order to build a tower (I think it was going to be offices or a bank). But the construction was not finished and people without home move in. There was a motorbike- taxi system that you could use to go to the top. If you were not part of thr community you could not enter ofc. There was quite dark business going inside.
Your facts are wrong. Services were cut off because of non payment not for punishment as you say. People like you drive the a wedge between racis. It was also not built for white elite, it waS built for rental to who could afford it.
Was actually inside the building a few weeks ago. Was not as bad as media makes it out to be, perhaps years back.
crazy cause it looks so pretty when you drive by
Cyperpunk 2077 mega building complex:
YES WAS LOOKING FOR THIS
My first thought
Yeah, that's why they used it to represent Peach Trees in Dredd.
Yes, it was used for the movies DREDD and CHAPPIE
There's no "renewal" going on in South Africa. It's about as dystopian as you can get.
Apartheid Was More Fair And Just To Whites And Blacks Than South Africa's Present Fascist Chaotic Government System !!!
What do you call Maboneng?
The actual building itself has been renewed. It's in this actual video
not at the moment, but the country was in a better place 5-6 years ago. Saying SA just went downhill post-apartheid just isn't true.
It was better, it was even better before under British rule.
Ponte City. It literally had retail shops on the ground floor in the 80s.
I visited this building a month ago in 2024. It’s an amazing story and an incredible building.
Its crazy how bad infrastructure is in south Africa now. I wonder what happened?
Its a mystery
We will never know
What? You really think that tall tube building is an architectural & engineering marvel?
Looks like something north korea will build
Basically all the darker skinned people got power back in the 90s and it's just been downhill from there. Crime went up, economy went down, workers are lazy and pollution went up. I'm not racist its just the truth.
This tower is a synopsis of what is happening to South Africa, Haiti, Detroit, LA, San Francisco.
Yep
for those who don't know, it's classism.
but this commenter is doing an obvious dog whistle.
@@blarghblargh A good tree, a bad tree? Just look at its fruit. I don't give a fuz about political correctness.
@@hippocreationThen why did you self censor yourself? Plus, any amount of historical research, you know, not under the lense of klanfesors, would disprove your point.
@@NullSeries I studied World history, to celebrate black history Month. Which history are you referring to?
that build is a brutalist dystopia, what a nightmare.
Been to Joburg twice, stayed in an area called which was a total dystopia. There are some wonderful buildings but most aren’t maintained so just go to rack and ruin. The area that tower is in is extremely dangerous.
There's a movie in which something similar happens (probably wqs inspired by this). The name is High Rise, with Tom Hiddleston
Just to include, movie named "Chappie" includes this tower.
I was looking for someone to mention Chappie. That’s how I know the building! I cried at the end. 💔🤖
So all I’m hearing was it was fine til blacks were let in then it went to shit wow that’s crazy where have I seen or heard this before
Your makeup skills are out of this world.
I love how she just glossed over the dead bodies part and went straight into a while commentary about racial segregation. As if that’s the main issue here.
It’s Nigeria in South Africa. If you are planning to go there, just don’t. Locals don’t even go there buddy. Hillbrow is “the hills have eyes”.
Nigeria how?
In an... incest kinda way, or?
My mom is Czech but grew up in S. Africa and I'd like to go, but it sounds like it's getting really bad there.
@@JerryStyler Nigerian drug lords have taken over that area
This past is sad but it’s interesting that these videos are still produced while the violence and call for genocide in South Africa today is ignored.
What genocide???
@chiedzawith2ds White families are held hostage, brutalised etc on farms and the ANC encourages it as it keeps the focus away from the crumbling infrastructure and high crime rates.
Search "South Africa farm attacks".
@@chiedzawith2dsSouth Africa is pretty openly committing genocide against white citizens.
You should come and walk around in this area at night. You will really enjoy it so much. The welcoming people in the area will welcome you with open arms.
Wait I've lived in Joburg my whole life and I'm only finding out about this tower now?? 😭
I was so into getting the 23 bodies part but girly just totally left us in cliffhanger
I travel to Johannesburg often as I stay close by and I’ve got some bad news. Yes, Ponte was bought by new owners and refurbished BUT, years later it’s worse than it’s ever been. This is a cultural issue. You can’t refurbish the people. They have to do that themselves.
"Worse" isn't accurate, there are tours there and people visit there.
The problem would be opportunities, not "culture" which is dumb. There is no culture where committing crime is seen as normal, there is poverty and the government not providing enough opportunities for certain areas which results in those areas having more crime.
The area always had the same culture, what brought the crime was when the Apartheid government abandoned the area which made it way more appealing for criminals to move in because they knew there was no oversight.
Same with Kowloon walled city, lac of regulation and no government oversight led to it becoming a gangster's den because they knew they could get away with things over there.
@tylersmith3139 obviously they need an actual judge dred society there. Except people lost it when stuff like the Trojan horse event happened
@@tylersmith3139 "There is no culture where crime is normal"
Lol, lmao even.
@@tylersmith3139and you need to learn what culture is. Culture is NOT tradition, culture is a “way of life”. Culture CHANGES. And the culture MUST change here, the way these people choose to live their lives MUST change and they must adopt a different way of life if they intend to move forward in this day and time.
It’s not culture, it’s DNA. Culture is downstream from race.
Ponte towers was also a suicide hotspot known by the locals because of the micro frequencies produced by the building structure. Ie bad fung shue.
That's what happens to the real estate market when you let the ghetto Inn