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Honestly a ZX6R is way more motorcycle than most riders can actually use 100% of. I think the ZX4RR is the perfect blend of useable power and exciting experience for most riders. Only issue is the price
That's my biggest issue with it, for the price and the power it does have, might as well get a 600. Regardless of for beginners or not this bike needs to be a lot cheaper than it is now.
@mr Tree that's true, but this bike is just expensive for what you get, period. Of course, that is subjective. I personally think other bikes that are priced comparably provide more value.
My 250sl ninja was a hilarious bike to own after I "lost" my gsxr 750. Riding a small and light bike to the max was a ton of fun. If the 400 is the same with more power, sounds good to me. Smiles per mile is a thing.
@@TheInfantry98any motorcyclist who gatekeeper what's a "real" motorcycle isn't a "real" motorcyclist. We're all in it for the fun and freedom you feel on two wheels. Except those like you, who are apparently only in it to look tough. Learn to love all bikes man it's way more fun.
Everyone is talking about how the ZX4RR is priced high enough you might as well get a 600. Its important to remmember that if you dont live nect to race tracks, karting tracks only allow 400CC and below. It is meant to be a perfect mix between daily and track. I think it hits that spot very well. If you live within ~30 min of a kart track and more than 2 hours from a car track, this bike makes a lot of sense in those particular situations. ALSO 400CC looks great on insurance. A lot of insurances do not take on new PREVIOUSLY UNINSURED riders with bikes above 400CC in Cali. Just making some points to show how this bike does make a lot of sense in particular situations.
Appreciate this feedback as a new rider looking for his first sportbike with track being the main reason to getting one. I want that type of skill set if I'm going to ride.
I'm one of those guys who started out on a 600, specifically a 2006 ZX-6R. I grew up on a farm and had a lot of experience on various three and four wheeled ATV's and snowmobiling, but very little two wheeled experience. So, in a way, I already had some experience operating similar machines. I had no issues when learning to ride the ZX-6R. I found the power at low rpm to be completely manageable, and the bike was easy to handle at stops and slow speed turns. I'm also a person who is able to control my impulses and not do something stupid, partly because of my previous experience on the farm. So I find the idea of what a beginner bike should be is up to the individual. And I kept the ZX-6R, it's a machine I will never outgrow.
Yammie, this is a bike you fell in love with over time. Your first impression comparing it with a Ninja 400 was telling. I LOVE this bike. I'm getting the ZX4R as my first and ONLY bike. I'm 49. Thanks for the PERFECT video. You told me exactly what I needed to hear.
Just bought mine today! It’s getting shipped in tomorrow. They are getting harder to find due to limited supply, but I’m glad I found one. Not gonna lie I am a little scared, but I can’t wait to grow into it. You’re not wrong about it. It’s an expensive first bike. Everyone’s telling me to just get the ZX6R, but I’m a beginner and know myself. I don’t want to get tossed on the side of the road. Plus, after getting comfortable, I can tune it and I get a Baby ZX6 😅 And because it’s a 400cc, my insurance rate was phenomenal! Only 360$ for the entire year I’m very new to the bike community, a squid very very much so, but have intensively looked at your videos, other videos, practiced on a z125 for a day just to get a feel for it, and well, excited to be a part of the community. Hello everyone! Safe riding!
This will be a Great beginner bike for you. I started on a Ninja 300, and I'd say that the Ninja 400 is the Perfect beginner bike... but I am Over the Sound of a Parallel Twin engine, and Love the screaming Race Engine sound of the Inline-4 engine! That's why this ZX-4RR is the Best of Both Worlds!
Excellent review and agree with everything you said. There is finally an inline 4 that bridges the gap between the ninja 400 and ZX6r without a crazy irresponsible leap.
I started on an R3 and went to an R6. Due to it's weakness in the low RPM range the R6 would have actually been an OK starter bike for someone who isn't going to be tempted to speed. It won't wheelie itself or run away from you very easily. Much weaker at low RPM's than other 600's like the ZX6r. I suspect the zx4r is similar to the R6 in this regard. It will get you into trouble with speeding above your skill level, but that's a choice not an accident.
This is a bike that anyone can enjoy. Getting that visceral sound while not going dangerous speeds carries such a massive spirit of motorcycling. This is a bike you can buy and never out grow or get tired of it. I’ve got 2 liter bikes in the garage and I plan to buy this one next. It’s more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow!
I first started riding motorbikes at the age of 14, I am now 69 and I would gladly have a ZX4RR but for the price. Flashed and a nice can fitted to unleash some more power would be great so I am looking forward to seeing you do these mods. I have always loved 4 cylinder engined bikes, especially when they are screamers. By the way, I still ride a Suzuki GSX650f as often as I can.
I think it's between beginner and intermediate. Beginner because it is not torquey and aggressive that's why beginners can easily have a grasp and control over the bike. But as you rev it and unlock its full potential, this is where intermediate riders comes in. Intermediate to advanced riders can really appreciate the sensations that the bike can give on the streets. And it has a more useable torque and power that intermediates will appreciate if they were not able to scream their 600s on the street.
I have a picture of my dad on the 89 ZX7 (first year it released) and he was hooked on Kawi after that (I rode on the back of his ZX11 as he V-maxed the thing lol).
I went from riding Honda CB175, CB360 in the backyard to buying a ZX11 for my first proper sport bike in 98. Scared the piss out of myself on the very first roll out in first gear.
After selling my ninja 400 and getting an r6 a years ago, I was regretting getting rid of my 400 even though I love my r6. I think I'd buy this to be my daily, and r6 for weekends
Heads up, ZX4RR was $300 a month full coverage for me. To also give context, I'm over 25 and clean record with over 10 years on biked. Ducati streetfoghter V4 was $226 full coverage, triumph speed triple 1200 RS only $89 full coverage, and by the way coverage cost isn't really on me as liability only for a $30,000 ducati was only $225 a year so most of the cost they said was just based on the bike and they wanted $300 a month for the ZX4RR. Absolutely outrageous for a 53hp motorcycle. Insurance is gonna kill this bikes target market. Outrageous that a 208hp full fledged super bike was $226 a month with a bike replacment cost of almost 30k but the 11k 53hp ninja is $300 a month.
That's insane. I pay like 30/month for full coverage for my ninja 400 and this isn't that much more power. I assume eventually it'll moderate when they realize it shouldn't be priced so high but until then, yikes. Nobody will want to pay that.
Change your insurance brother. I am 26 and have geico. Im paying 68 a month for full coverage on my 2021 scout bobber and 2022 aprilia rs660. Both for 68$ and i have totaled my r6 last year. Paid 10.5k when i bought my 2017 r6 but geico offered me 16k flat when i totaled it.
@Crusoe Art it's got nothing to do with insurnace provider, I've gotten quotes from 6 different companies, geico included. Geico wanted $8,000 a year for the ducati so I laughed and never bothered checking any other bikes with them. I have a clean record beyond well beyond even the 3-5 year record insurance looks at. Biggest issue after that is simply where you live, what the bikes worth, and what rap sheet the bikes typically have. They literally told me my rate is about as cheap as it gets for where I live and my age. Issue is the bike, location, and what the bikes typically have issues. For instance, I can get a triumph speed triple 1200RS which is literally in the same class as the ducati V4 street fighter but one is 226$ a month full coverage and the other is $89. Reason she told me was simply triumph owners in the area typically don't get into accidents or get tickets. So I said well I don't have any tickets so that doesn't make sense she said well it's about what the people who buy those particular bikes do and we calculate the risk partially off of that not just my own clean record. I can get a triumph thruxton RS which is worth about as much as thr speed triple and ducati if you look at the lower spec V4 ducati and she said simply that people who buy Cafe racer classed bikes just don't typically get into trouble. This is also proven by the fact that both the ZX4RR and the 30k$ ducati where only $300+- 50$ a YEAR for just liability, so that means in their eyes I'm not the Liability and simply they have bad experience with certain bikes in my area like them getting stolen etc. It all plays a part but they said I wasn't the issue. So triumph it is lmao.
@@DDRDK damn that sucks. I live in the bay area and I am kind of new to states; only been here for 3.5 years and dun really have that much driving history. I am a motorcycle safety instructor and taken multiple classes. I believe that plays a big factor too. I know i get discount because of those classes and because i am a instructor myself. Not really sure how much discount i get tho.
I bought this bike after only having two days of motorcycle experience from the msf beginner course. Took me about 20 to 30 minutes on the road to feel comfortable. The price was more than i expected to pay when i went in, but so far i'm happy with my decision to get it.
@@alexv5581 no, you could buy 2 ninja 400 for the price of 1 zx4r... Spend the extra money on gear, tires, and classes. The 400 is going to have more power than you know what to do with anyway.
My first bike was a 400 4cylinder so for me it is the perfect bike to relive my miss spent youth, hoping to be able to get one of these because it is more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slowly😁
That's very tempting, I got a z900 as my first bike and keep it in rain mode.. it's such a wild beast in full power and I don't trust myself that much power and torque yet (2 months riding with no prior exp). I've ridden 1400 mi during the last 2 mo and focusing on fundamentals. I'd probably get that as my track and 2nd toy.... but I definitely would have chosen the zx4 as my first bike if it was available when I got my bike.
Here in the Netherlands we have to take lessons and pass 2 exams before we get our license. I passed my last exam May 12th and next day ordered a Ninja 650 2023 model as my first bike. All my lessons ( about 28 hours ) were on a Honda CB650R. Can pick up my bike on June 3rd, cant wait to ride again.
Show me a dealership that is selling this bike for msrp out the door and I'll fly out there. No dealership is going to sell this without adding fees, freight, dealer markup, etc.
As I see it, it's more for the Beginner rider that wants to start riding bikes but has no plans of upgrading/switching in the near future or the routes you're taking don't make sense for bigger bikes. Has some more nice-to-haves but still reliable on the long run.
If biking’s about how it makes you feel……it’s priceless. I’d buy the zx4rr in a heartbeat. More manufacturers need to tap into the fountain of youth. 😎 ( also I’ve owned 3 CBR400RR’s and they were proper bikes in miniature , absolute gems)
Would you still say it’s a good beginner motorcycle for someone that lives in Europe, where the bike already comes from the factory with the “tuned” 77 HP? And also for the people that say that for this price you might as well just get a ZX6R since it costs 1000$ more: Other than all the other reasons why you might not want the ZX6R as a beginner, here where I live the ZX4RR costs around 10k whilst the ZX6R costs around 13k, so for us the difference is 3000€, which is not that small.
I have a Zxr400 made in 1996 and other than the price and rider aids it´s still very comparable to this in terms of power, sound and maintainance. I had this Zxr400 as my first bike and I just gotta say that there is not many better bikes out there to start if you want to have a fun, racy but still not too quick beginner bike. Here in Europe with the A2 License rules this new Zx4rr will be even better suited. Excited to see these on the streets and to finally get more than just my few 90s 400cc 4 cylinder bikes around me. Thank you for reviewing this bike so thourogly! Much Love from Germany.
People can hate as much as they want. We waited almost 25 years for a bike like this(from Kawasaki) this is going to be a big seller in the next view years.
when I went from my Ninja 300 paying $40 a month for insurance to my ZX6 and they told me insurance would be almost $200 a month, I damn near changed my mind on buying it LOL I definitely didn't expect the supersport tax
@Yammie Noob Bro pls make a comparison with the zx4rr and the r7. Let’s see them race from 0 to 100 etc.. I’m guessing like myself that quite some ppl are having trouble choosing.. Make my day Yammie.
in my opinion the power and speed of the zx4rr isn't too much for a beginner but the price point and running costs of the motorcycle would make it an excellent toy for the well off motorcycle enthusiast who just wants something for an around town ripper or a track weapon, but if you can afford to drop and wreck it as your first motorcycle just go for it. don't think you wont drop it because you will.
From what i have seen so far,it is and it isn't, flashed it could,i think beautiful and very fast bike, few beginners could resist the power, even i am falling for this bike,and I've been riding thirty years
Had 250/500 in reno (your northern ally) and was in a terrible accident (caused by a drunk) in 2020 on my ninja 400. Just a heads up in Nevada the 250/500 does NOT cover you. They make it sound like it does but it’s only for a passenger or others involved, not yourself. I went through an insanely massive lawsuit over that. So really no point to have that coverage if you don’t bring a passenger.
I went from a ninja 250 to a 636 wasn't that bad but I had the 250 for like 4 years before I could afford a bigger bike . But the way I rode it then vs now is definitely day and night you just need to take the time to get experience riding and learning your bike. Now in the future when you can these zx4 used that could possibly be a decent upgrade from a smaller bike if not a zx6r
It’s a “sport bike enthusiast’s bike.” Kinda the way a miata is is a great “beginner sports car” it wasn’t designed to be a beginner sports car but it’s inherent friendly sports mannerisms and low cost on consumables items and mods make it a phenomenal first auto cross/track car machine that you can grow into. I feel like it’s the same with this zx4. The only downside to this bike is the cost of entry. As a used proposition (just like the miata) this thing is gonna be insane for 8k
Iive done heavyweight and middle weight cruisers and dirt bikes my whole life. Never truly been the need for speed kinda rider. But I do want a super sport and this might be what im looking for. Light weight and fun. But I'll have to look seriously at the zx6r as well. But this one is tugging at my heart strings.
It's fantastic that Kawasaki made this singing little 4-cyl. The power and the sound is perfect. I don't even mind the "walkaround" of the ridiculous noise/emissions policies by limiting throttle @ higher rpm. It's just such a shame that they used the cheapest and heaviest frame and swingarm. With this price the bike should have 15kg lighter alu set. It would transform the machine. This is probably caused by total lack of competition in this niche. They can put this gem of an engine in the crappiest frame lying aroud and still charge 12k in total for it.
I love my little pocket rocket. I've had it for about a 6 weeks and just love riding it. The ZX6R is such an over kill on back country roads that I ride. I don't have to ride 140 mph to have fun. I agree this could definitely be a great beginners bike. I will wait to have it flashed after we get to know each other a little bit more. I'm an experienced rider of over 50 years and this is a great bike. Actually my insurance is $20.00 cheaper then my 2021 MT07 that I traded in for it.
@@dantimber Yes I do and still love it. I haven't tuned it yet. I probably will this coming winter. As stock it is still a lot of fun and fun is why I bought it. Light and nimble. I'm never afraid of leaning it in to corners at speed.
As a returning rider I have been searching for this bike every since COVID began. All the safety and convenience high end features / components are more expensive yet one gets what they pay for. My only hope is that Kawasaki drops these same components on the Z400RS ( 4 CYLINDER ) model.
If it wasn't 10k it would probably be a great beginner bike. I'm of the opinion that starter bikes should be cheap, clapped out, but very reliable. That way you don't have to stress about dropping it or breaking down somewhere. You just get to focus on learning and having fun.
I mean maybe the SE or the regular R versions are better for beginners(or the Zx25R if it's sold in your country). Less stuff to adjust(which a beginner might not even bother tweaking), still screamers, fun and will be a lot cheaper. But I agree with Yammie in that if you have some sort of experience and you want something to keep for a long time then the 4RR might be it.
I love the look of the 40th anniversary 24 vs the 25 bikes. I hated the yellow stripe but I noticed it's only a sticker. (Im living my dreams now and don't want to boast) 💚 From Australia brother
Kawasaki priced it in a strange position, apparently its $9700, which is $700 more than an r7, which weighs the same, plus has more hp and torque, it also has fully adjustable forks, you could get about the same hp from the zx4rr but that requires a pipe and an ecu flash, which would probably set you back about $600 for the pipe and roughly $400 for an ecu flash, which brings the price up to $10700, which makes it $1700 more expensive than the r7, so why would I buy it over an r7? plus for another $800 you could get an aprilia rs600, which is 5kg lighter and has 100hp.
the r7 is one of the worst bikes to get. It has no soul no sound just like a 125cc. Its fun around the track but has bad seating for the streets. The bad seating would be okay if you would get speed and sound coming with it.
@@omargholam2514 I've never ridden an r7, but I have ridden a t7, I think most modern bikes have no soul, they're just too refined these days, the r7 does sound good with an aftermarket exhaust though, and the whole seating position is exactly what I would expect on a sports bike.
In my country Indonesia, this motorbike has a "younger brother" which is zx25r. In my opinion, the zx25r is more manageable for beginners like me. However, I don't know whether if this bike was in America it would be able to keep up with the speed limit there or not. Because the maximum speed of the zx25r is only around 180km/h or 111mp/h. But these bikes (zx25 or zx4) are really fun to ride. Oh yeah i forgot. Zx25 can rev to 18.5k rpm
hell yea brother! the "almost feel like" riding a big bike without the ridiculous "more than 250cc" tax and being able to use all of the gears is fun! 🔥
I went to buy this bike. All the paperwork done and I had to cancel due to the insurance being 1500 for 6 months or something close to that. Crazyyyy, this would of been my second bike no claims no tickets nothing. I am going to try again next year when I'm 25.
Hopefully this bike is the future all in option as far as performance goes going forward in America. The sport bike industry needs a massive detune to bring common since back to Americas streets and highways. One can only hope.
I'm still not a rider.....BUT......I'd rather start on this bike (or my other dream bike which is an Aprilia RS660!!) and NOT grow out of it after a couple months, then another bike after a few more months then another etc etc.....I'd rather spend the premium and hold onto it for a long time. Adding upgrades over time....tail tidy, Rizoma mirrors, flash ecu, exhaust, air filter/Venturi tubes, grips and bar-ends, you mentioned the brakes weren't radial pull so maybe they'll be an upgrade for that to a more traditional master cylinder along with handle bar levers. This bike is so good and would just get better over time so it should last years not that regular few months where you grow out of it.
tbh i dont know why people are stuck on the idea that this is a beginner bike. The beginner bike is the ninja 400. This bike was made for asian markets, where there is a huge cost of ownership on large displacement bikes, but a 400 cc is financially managable and you still get the inline 4 feeling and sound. And for those who want to get into track riding. The suspension and everything is higher spec than the ninja 400 so you get a bike which you can track straight out of the dealership. If you want a begginer or every day bike get the Ninja 400, if you want a track bike or live in aforementioned regions, get the zx4rr. The US and Europe are miniscule markets compared to Asia and South America. Kawasaki made the bike so may as well just bring it to the US as well. If they sell some, profit, if not, well who cares, they make it up in different markets. Same deal with the zx25r
I love your take on this bike but I'm going to say what everybody is thinking: the acquisition cost of the first batch of X4's is nearly the same as the ZX-6R! Good grief that's insane! I wonder if there's somebody out there that is going full-on counter-intuitive thinking, talking themselves more into the 636?! I missed out on this bike in my life and I love the idea for the entry riders and enthusiasts, at least when the price comes down and the market hydrates.
you could call it counter intuitive, but its pretty much exactly intuitive. I'm starting soon, looking for my first bike. It is absolutely insane to me that I'd pay the same price for both the zx6 and zx4 but its just a "worse" bike. The only limit is really your level of self control on the throttle..... Why should I bother getting a worse bike for the same price at that point lol. I love the look of the r7 but I prefer an inline 4s powerband and sound x1000. If this is my only option for an inline 4 that isnt too fast, then i just have to get a 600 it seems.
Zx-6r is the ticket for first bike no matter what nobody says because people grow like plants so that bike does ZX6R will last a long time for your growing. Instead of getting the ZX 4rr with the 6R you’re already there and then some we’ll definitely be satisfied going out route
I just played around on progressive's website and got a quote for the ZX down to $217/month opposed to the Ninja 400 at around $45/month at the cheapest for financing it. And, I'm not exactly a spring chicken.
So stock its beginner friendly and when you're ready for a bigger bike just flash and tune it and bam you got it which results in keeping the bike longer than a regular 400.
im a 'relatively' wealthy European 50 year old doing my A2. Probably fine for me , but im currently on a 35kw restricticted ninja 650 and feel that is fine. understanding that I weight 73 kg , im flexible and
I feel like this isn’t meant for a beginner street rider. It would be perfect for someone with street riding experience but as a beginner track bike. You can really push it without doing 180.
I want this bike, if the had a 250 4 I’d buy that. I’ve never forgiven myself for selling my Suzuki RG500, my H2 triple, and my Honda CB-1 400. I’m not going to miss this future collectible. They won’t sell enough to keep it around very long.
Also on the insurance, if you finance a bike they will likely require you have both compressive and collision coverage which means even higher insurance!
@@STAK_22 go get a free quote to insure a 400cc bike with the standard 1000 deductible on comp and collision. Try geico, all state or progressive and let me know if you find a rate less than 200/month. If the bike cost 10k - financed - your note is probably around 300.
I would say this is more of a "track" focused machine hence the price tag. If you want small displacement but something out of the box to rip around the circuit on this is the answer. For a "true" decent first bike just opt for the regular 400 with twin cylinders, the insurance will be cheaper and it can still be tricked out with nice parts.
@@Faceless_Chat if you check around the comments you will find that they comes in very limited number and most are already paid and bought before they even arrived 😂
Re.: Insurance quote ---- I had this bike in my hands ---- called on insurance, NYS riding season is too short for $1638, whereas H-D Nightster Special for: $391. Rates are set with history prevailing re.: Common purchaser for a: supersport / sport / potential track bike.
this bike is the final boss, who wants to be stuck in first gear on a liter bike? who wants to be stuck in 3rd gear on an 600cc? i have so much more fun stinging the neck on a grom! I'm definitely getting one of these!!!
@TheMotoBikeLife perhaps not, I had an r1 that had a 90mph 1st gear, much too fast for me. My cbr600rr was also too fast. The speed limit is 75 here. This zx4rr would be so much fun at a track and in a pack!
I live in the Philippines, this is among the latest from kawasaki, ZX25R SE AND ZX4RR are the hottest selling on the market na, 3, sea leavel ,95 - 97 octane fuel is available everywhere. 2, No restrictions in the Asain market,, it's fn fast !! 1, ZX25R SE, 428,500 php/ ZX4RR 510.500php every option.
Taking into the acct price, function & the norte americano penchant for big ie power & bragging rights, this zx4rr is a terrible 1st bike. It is however an amazing enthusiast bike as a 2nd (or 3rd...) machine. As mentioned this zx4rr will allow the seasoned rider the opportunity to ring it out on the streets which in & of itself is fun as heck. As a ex life long sportbike rider, I'd def keep my eyes on this (& the rest of the 600 mid pack) if I were to get back into riding
In Australia zx4rr 40th $15k the zx6r 40th was $18k. I saw 25 650l $13.5k but I didn't ask about 25 zx4rr zx6r as I was only interested in 40th anniversary bikes (not 650l or 1000sx 40th colours though)
Tbh it's too much motorcycle for a noob,it's comfortable and one of the best naked bikes but it's dangerous for your level of riding,get something smaller like a ninja 3-400 for a year then upgrade!!
That’s a motorcycle that will do well into the triple digits and has a torque curve that wants to pull the front wheel up. Way too much bike for a beginner.
Little wonder the States has such a high motorcycle fatality rate! I just upgraded from my first bike (a restricted Trident 660) to the new Striple RS. The Street Triple is properly rapid and would make an absolutely terrible first bike.
I’d rather have a Grom for a beginner bike or even a R3 or MT03. I feel like his ZX4RR is a great bike for someone who already knows how to ride and wants something more advanced without all the power like a 600cc+ bike. All the modes are nice to have but like you mentioned in the video. Everyone just skips it anyways 😂 goes straight for the race mode.
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What is your thought, comparing zx4rr and yamaha r7
Did you send the ECU to 2 Wheel Dyno for a tune?
Hey, Yammie, how would you compare this to the new Daytona 660?
Honestly a ZX6R is way more motorcycle than most riders can actually use 100% of. I think the ZX4RR is the perfect blend of useable power and exciting experience for most riders. Only issue is the price
Minds well get a zx6r and just use it in low power mode if the zx4rr costs 13k out the door. You can get a zx6r for that
@@TheShadeManGuitar and if you need more power it is there. same argument for a 1k but scaled down
@@TheShadeManGuitar this bike is more so a glass box item vs the zx6r which you will see everywhere
@TheShadeMan dealer near me had a new 636 for less then 11k. No way I'm buying a 400cc for more
Enough power? Never using 100%? on a zx6r? Man you crazy as hell.
Kudos on mentioning the insurance cost aspect of ownership. Not many reviewers do.
The MSRP is NOT $11,000.... it's $9,699!
He paid a Markup, which is what he chose to do, but Stop telling people that the bike is $13,000!
When you add sales tax and dealer handling and get a license plate it would be pretty close to 13g.
@@frostydog03you can get it out the door at 10k, I’ve seen online a BUNCH of people saying they got it for under 10k out the door
It certainly isn't priced like a beginner bike.
That's my biggest issue with it, for the price and the power it does have, might as well get a 600.
Regardless of for beginners or not this bike needs to be a lot cheaper than it is now.
@Channel Name exactly, especially considering the bikes it's competing with at it's price point.
Beginner bike needs to be used to be cheap
@@channelname7349 it’s an in-line 4 they’re expensive to make plus with the suspension brakes etc
@mr Tree that's true, but this bike is just expensive for what you get, period. Of course, that is subjective. I personally think other bikes that are priced comparably provide more value.
My 250sl ninja was a hilarious bike to own after I "lost" my gsxr 750. Riding a small and light bike to the max was a ton of fun. If the 400 is the same with more power, sounds good to me. Smiles per mile is a thing.
So you cant hack it anymore with real motorcycles ? Thats sad bro truly SAD
@@TheInfantry98 you’re cool g
@@TheInfantry98 why be so mean? If you can't say anything nice, just say nothing
@@Moarty95 nothing
@@TheInfantry98any motorcyclist who gatekeeper what's a "real" motorcycle isn't a "real" motorcyclist. We're all in it for the fun and freedom you feel on two wheels. Except those like you, who are apparently only in it to look tough. Learn to love all bikes man it's way more fun.
Everyone is talking about how the ZX4RR is priced high enough you might as well get a 600. Its important to remmember that if you dont live nect to race tracks, karting tracks only allow 400CC and below. It is meant to be a perfect mix between daily and track. I think it hits that spot very well. If you live within ~30 min of a kart track and more than 2 hours from a car track, this bike makes a lot of sense in those particular situations. ALSO 400CC looks great on insurance. A lot of insurances do not take on new PREVIOUSLY UNINSURED riders with bikes above 400CC in Cali. Just making some points to show how this bike does make a lot of sense in particular situations.
Appreciate this feedback as a new rider looking for his first sportbike with track being the main reason to getting one. I want that type of skill set if I'm going to ride.
saw on some forum insurance is under 60$ a month for some that is amazing!
@@KennyWagner Exactly!
15:53 it’s a beginner intermediate 😅 the true definition of a bike you can grow into as it can be upgraded to unleash its full power ❤
I'm one of those guys who started out on a 600, specifically a 2006 ZX-6R. I grew up on a farm and had a lot of experience on various three and four wheeled ATV's and snowmobiling, but very little two wheeled experience. So, in a way, I already had some experience operating similar machines. I had no issues when learning to ride the ZX-6R. I found the power at low rpm to be completely manageable, and the bike was easy to handle at stops and slow speed turns. I'm also a person who is able to control my impulses and not do something stupid, partly because of my previous experience on the farm. So I find the idea of what a beginner bike should be is up to the individual.
And I kept the ZX-6R, it's a machine I will never outgrow.
That is a good benchmark, can definitely start on 600 with that experience and sensibility.
Most people have no idea how dangerous a working farm can be. People loose limbs and lives sadly. It's nothing to take lightly.
Yammie, this is a bike you fell in love with over time. Your first impression comparing it with a Ninja 400 was telling. I LOVE this bike. I'm getting the ZX4R as my first and ONLY bike. I'm 49. Thanks for the PERFECT video. You told me exactly what I needed to hear.
Just bought mine today! It’s getting shipped in tomorrow.
They are getting harder to find due to limited supply, but I’m glad I found one.
Not gonna lie I am a little scared, but I can’t wait to grow into it.
You’re not wrong about it. It’s an expensive first bike.
Everyone’s telling me to just get the ZX6R, but I’m a beginner and know myself. I don’t want to get tossed on the side of the road. Plus, after getting comfortable, I can tune it and I get a Baby ZX6 😅
And because it’s a 400cc, my insurance rate was phenomenal! Only 360$ for the entire year
I’m very new to the bike community, a squid very very much so, but have intensively looked at your videos, other videos, practiced on a z125 for a day just to get a feel for it, and well, excited to be a part of the community.
Hello everyone!
Safe riding!
This will be a Great beginner bike for you. I started on a Ninja 300, and I'd say that the Ninja 400 is the Perfect beginner bike... but I am Over the Sound of a Parallel Twin engine, and Love the screaming Race Engine sound of the Inline-4 engine! That's why this ZX-4RR is the Best of Both Worlds!
How's the journey going?
That insurance quote is very affordable. Had you taken the MSF course before buying?
Excellent review and agree with everything you said. There is finally an inline 4 that bridges the gap between the ninja 400 and ZX6r without a crazy irresponsible leap.
I started on an R3 and went to an R6. Due to it's weakness in the low RPM range the R6 would have actually been an OK starter bike for someone who isn't going to be tempted to speed. It won't wheelie itself or run away from you very easily. Much weaker at low RPM's than other 600's like the ZX6r. I suspect the zx4r is similar to the R6 in this regard.
It will get you into trouble with speeding above your skill level, but that's a choice not an accident.
This is a bike that anyone can enjoy. Getting that visceral sound while not going dangerous speeds carries such a massive spirit of motorcycling. This is a bike you can buy and never out grow or get tired of it. I’ve got 2 liter bikes in the garage and I plan to buy this one next. It’s more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow!
I first started riding motorbikes at the age of 14, I am now 69 and I would gladly have a ZX4RR but for the price. Flashed and a nice can fitted to unleash some more power would be great so I am looking forward to seeing you do these mods. I have always loved 4 cylinder engined bikes, especially when they are screamers. By the way, I still ride a Suzuki GSX650f as often as I can.
Hate to sound dumb but what does flashes mean. What mod is that. ?
@@brianhughes7042flash tune
I think it's between beginner and intermediate. Beginner because it is not torquey and aggressive that's why beginners can easily have a grasp and control over the bike. But as you rev it and unlock its full potential, this is where intermediate riders comes in. Intermediate to advanced riders can really appreciate the sensations that the bike can give on the streets. And it has a more useable torque and power that intermediates will appreciate if they were not able to scream their 600s on the street.
My first bike was a ZX7 back in 94. It was a bit much. Glad I didn’t die.😅
I have a picture of my dad on the 89 ZX7 (first year it released) and he was hooked on Kawi after that (I rode on the back of his ZX11 as he V-maxed the thing lol).
I went from riding Honda CB175, CB360 in the backyard to buying a ZX11 for my first proper sport bike in 98. Scared the piss out of myself on the very first roll out in first gear.
After selling my ninja 400 and getting an r6 a years ago, I was regretting getting rid of my 400 even though I love my r6. I think I'd buy this to be my daily, and r6 for weekends
Oh so you lost your edge ? Cant hack it anymore ?
@@TheInfantry98 Cringey comments.
@@TheInfantry98 bro you’re 25 you’d get smoked u ain’t even got a bike my guy
I dunno, with R6 prices, you could sell that and get the ZX4 AND a Panigale...
@@TheInfantry98 2 brain cell moment
I remember the same thing being said about FZR400 in 1988. I owned one for the race track and rode it on the street more than I should have, huge fun.
Heads up, ZX4RR was $300 a month full coverage for me. To also give context, I'm over 25 and clean record with over 10 years on biked. Ducati streetfoghter V4 was $226 full coverage, triumph speed triple 1200 RS only $89 full coverage, and by the way coverage cost isn't really on me as liability only for a $30,000 ducati was only $225 a year so most of the cost they said was just based on the bike and they wanted $300 a month for the ZX4RR. Absolutely outrageous for a 53hp motorcycle. Insurance is gonna kill this bikes target market. Outrageous that a 208hp full fledged super bike was $226 a month with a bike replacment cost of almost 30k but the 11k 53hp ninja is $300 a month.
That's insane. I pay like 30/month for full coverage for my ninja 400 and this isn't that much more power. I assume eventually it'll moderate when they realize it shouldn't be priced so high but until then, yikes. Nobody will want to pay that.
Change your insurance brother. I am 26 and have geico. Im paying 68 a month for full coverage on my 2021 scout bobber and 2022 aprilia rs660. Both for 68$ and i have totaled my r6 last year. Paid 10.5k when i bought my 2017 r6 but geico offered me 16k flat when i totaled it.
@Crusoe Art it's got nothing to do with insurnace provider, I've gotten quotes from 6 different companies, geico included. Geico wanted $8,000 a year for the ducati so I laughed and never bothered checking any other bikes with them. I have a clean record beyond well beyond even the 3-5 year record insurance looks at. Biggest issue after that is simply where you live, what the bikes worth, and what rap sheet the bikes typically have. They literally told me my rate is about as cheap as it gets for where I live and my age. Issue is the bike, location, and what the bikes typically have issues. For instance, I can get a triumph speed triple 1200RS which is literally in the same class as the ducati V4 street fighter but one is 226$ a month full coverage and the other is $89. Reason she told me was simply triumph owners in the area typically don't get into accidents or get tickets. So I said well I don't have any tickets so that doesn't make sense she said well it's about what the people who buy those particular bikes do and we calculate the risk partially off of that not just my own clean record. I can get a triumph thruxton RS which is worth about as much as thr speed triple and ducati if you look at the lower spec V4 ducati and she said simply that people who buy Cafe racer classed bikes just don't typically get into trouble. This is also proven by the fact that both the ZX4RR and the 30k$ ducati where only $300+- 50$ a YEAR for just liability, so that means in their eyes I'm not the Liability and simply they have bad experience with certain bikes in my area like them getting stolen etc. It all plays a part but they said I wasn't the issue. So triumph it is lmao.
My 400 was 34$ a month and my zx4rr cost me 77$ a month
@@DDRDK damn that sucks. I live in the bay area and I am kind of new to states; only been here for 3.5 years and dun really have that much driving history. I am a motorcycle safety instructor and taken multiple classes. I believe that plays a big factor too. I know i get discount because of those classes and because i am a instructor myself. Not really sure how much discount i get tho.
I bought this bike after only having two days of motorcycle experience from the msf beginner course. Took me about 20 to 30 minutes on the road to feel comfortable. The price was more than i expected to pay when i went in, but so far i'm happy with my decision to get it.
So for an absolute noob would you recommend? Never have ridden a street bike before, but I plan on taking msf course.
@alexv5581 Only if you don't mind the price. I've enjoyed the first month of ownership for sure, but experiences surely vary per person.
@@alexv5581 no, you could buy 2 ninja 400 for the price of 1 zx4r... Spend the extra money on gear, tires, and classes. The 400 is going to have more power than you know what to do with anyway.
@@Kell-zy2xf Insurance cost?
My first bike was a 400 4cylinder so for me it is the perfect bike to relive my miss spent youth, hoping to be able to get one of these because it is more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slowly😁
That's very tempting, I got a z900 as my first bike and keep it in rain mode.. it's such a wild beast in full power and I don't trust myself that much power and torque yet (2 months riding with no prior exp). I've ridden 1400 mi during the last 2 mo and focusing on fundamentals. I'd probably get that as my track and 2nd toy.... but I definitely would have chosen the zx4 as my first bike if it was available when I got my bike.
Why is there the TikTok search term thing do you see that on the “z900” part
I feel bad for all these people getting rinsed on these bikes paying $13k+. Lucky that I got mine for $10,052 exactly.
Here in the Netherlands we have to take lessons and pass 2 exams before we get our license. I passed my last exam May 12th and next day ordered a Ninja 650 2023 model as my first bike. All my lessons ( about 28 hours ) were on a Honda CB650R. Can pick up my bike on June 3rd, cant wait to ride again.
It’s wild that dealers are charging $13k for this. There’s at least 5 dealers near me that have it listed at $9,699 msrp
Show me a dealership that is selling this bike for msrp out the door and I'll fly out there. No dealership is going to sell this without adding fees, freight, dealer markup, etc.
@@christonbutler435 I just said that was msrp, they’re always gonna have added fees but I can’t imagine it going much over the $11k mark
@@christonbutler435its alw@ys msrp plus added fees. Thats normal my friend
As I see it, it's more for the Beginner rider that wants to start riding bikes but has no plans of upgrading/switching in the near future or the routes you're taking don't make sense for bigger bikes.
Has some more nice-to-haves but still reliable on the long run.
If biking’s about how it makes you feel……it’s priceless. I’d buy the zx4rr in a heartbeat. More manufacturers need to tap into the fountain of youth. 😎 ( also I’ve owned 3 CBR400RR’s and they were proper bikes in miniature , absolute gems)
The CBR400 isn’t an RR. Just some people started calling it that for some reason.
@@jasontodd9302 what makes it an RR? Fully adjustable suspension? Gear driven cams? I had two 96 bikes that were RRR’s
@@Dunkensb I think it's usually the suspension which doesn't make sense as it should be safer.
Would you still say it’s a good beginner motorcycle for someone that lives in Europe, where the bike already comes from the factory with the “tuned” 77 HP?
And also for the people that say that for this price you might as well just get a ZX6R since it costs 1000$ more:
Other than all the other reasons why you might not want the ZX6R as a beginner, here where I live the ZX4RR costs around 10k whilst the ZX6R costs around 13k, so for us the difference is 3000€, which is not that small.
Just got mine, love the ZX4R. This channel inspired me to start motorcycling. Love Yammie!
What accessories have you installed on your 4r?
I have a Zxr400 made in 1996 and other than the price and rider aids it´s still very comparable to this in terms of power, sound and maintainance. I had this Zxr400 as my first bike and I just gotta say that there is not many better bikes out there to start if you want to have a fun, racy but still not too quick beginner bike. Here in Europe with the A2 License rules this new Zx4rr will be even better suited. Excited to see these on the streets and to finally get more than just my few 90s 400cc 4 cylinder bikes around me. Thank you for reviewing this bike so thourogly! Much Love from Germany.
The ZX4RR is 9,600 up here in ND and everyone rides Harley so they are easy to find lol
*Insert Napoleon 'lucky' meme*
People can hate as much as they want. We waited almost 25 years for a bike like this(from Kawasaki) this is going to be a big seller in the next view years.
when I went from my Ninja 300 paying $40 a month for insurance to my ZX6 and they told me insurance would be almost $200 a month, I damn near changed my mind on buying it LOL I definitely didn't expect the supersport tax
@Yammie Noob Bro pls make a comparison with the zx4rr and the r7. Let’s see them race from 0 to 100 etc.. I’m guessing like myself that quite some ppl are having trouble choosing.. Make my day Yammie.
in my opinion the power and speed of the zx4rr isn't too much for a beginner but the price point and running costs of the motorcycle would make it an excellent toy for the well off motorcycle enthusiast who just wants something for an around town ripper or a track weapon, but if you can afford to drop and wreck it as your first motorcycle just go for it. don't think you wont drop it because you will.
Not necessarily.... I didn't Drop my beginner bike.
@@STAK_22 congratulations your the exemption not the rule.
From what i have seen so far,it is and it isn't, flashed it could,i think beautiful and very fast bike, few beginners could resist the power, even i am falling for this bike,and I've been riding thirty years
I just bought a ZX4RR yesterday as my first motorcycle
Paid just over 10k out the door
Where do u live man??
@@skywalker7517 Missouri a little ways from STL
i’m wanting to get one.. one year though how’s your experience been?
Great video! I paid 11.9k OTD and for insurance, 1750 a year for 250/500k with 1000 deductible on comp and collision. 33 years old in Las Vegas.
That's pretty atrocious for insurance
Eesh 1,000 deductible heck nah
Had 250/500 in reno (your northern ally) and was in a terrible accident (caused by a drunk) in 2020 on my ninja 400. Just a heads up in Nevada the 250/500 does NOT cover you. They make it sound like it does but it’s only for a passenger or others involved, not yourself. I went through an insanely massive lawsuit over that. So really no point to have that coverage if you don’t bring a passenger.
I went from a ninja 250 to a 636 wasn't that bad but I had the 250 for like 4 years before I could afford a bigger bike . But the way I rode it then vs now is definitely day and night you just need to take the time to get experience riding and learning your bike. Now in the future when you can these zx4 used that could possibly be a decent upgrade from a smaller bike if not a zx6r
I'd be curious for a comparison of the zx4rr with the cbr650r 🤔
It’s a “sport bike enthusiast’s bike.” Kinda the way a miata is is a great “beginner sports car” it wasn’t designed to be a beginner sports car but it’s inherent friendly sports mannerisms and low cost on consumables items and mods make it a phenomenal first auto cross/track car machine that you can grow into. I feel like it’s the same with this zx4. The only downside to this bike is the cost of entry. As a used proposition (just like the miata) this thing is gonna be insane for 8k
Iive done heavyweight and middle weight cruisers and dirt bikes my whole life. Never truly been the need for speed kinda rider. But I do want a super sport and this might be what im looking for. Light weight and fun. But I'll have to look seriously at the zx6r as well. But this one is tugging at my heart strings.
It's fantastic that Kawasaki made this singing little 4-cyl. The power and the sound is perfect. I don't even mind the "walkaround" of the ridiculous noise/emissions policies by limiting throttle @ higher rpm.
It's just such a shame that they used the cheapest and heaviest frame and swingarm. With this price the bike should have 15kg lighter alu set. It would transform the machine.
This is probably caused by total lack of competition in this niche. They can put this gem of an engine in the crappiest frame lying aroud and still charge 12k in total for it.
Started on a ninja 650 and I have had no trouble learning on it but I do actually understand the "growing into it" a little bit
Same the difference is very noticeable especially the power delivery I can max a 650 with ease vs the 4rr even detuned
I love my little pocket rocket. I've had it for about a 6 weeks and just love riding it. The ZX6R is such an over kill on back country roads that I ride. I don't have to ride 140 mph to have fun. I agree this could definitely be a great beginners bike. I will wait to have it flashed after we get to know each other a little bit more. I'm an experienced rider of over 50 years and this is a great bike. Actually my insurance is $20.00 cheaper then my 2021 MT07 that I traded in for it.
Interesting. Do you still have the bike?
@@dantimber Yes I do and still love it. I haven't tuned it yet. I probably will this coming winter. As stock it is still a lot of fun and fun is why I bought it. Light and nimble. I'm never afraid of leaning it in to corners at speed.
Honestly idk where most people in the comments live my zx4rr was $8900 new! It’s amazing I love it and very exciting to drive.
As a returning rider I have been searching for this bike every since COVID began. All the safety and convenience high end features / components are more expensive yet one gets what they pay for. My only hope is that Kawasaki drops these same components on the Z400RS ( 4 CYLINDER ) model.
If it wasn't 10k it would probably be a great beginner bike. I'm of the opinion that starter bikes should be cheap, clapped out, but very reliable. That way you don't have to stress about dropping it or breaking down somewhere. You just get to focus on learning and having fun.
For me this bike will be perfect... The power, the handling, the looks and the sound... But the problem is the price, I won't be able to afford it.
Save up for it.
Finally the review we are all waiting for ✌️ awesome content
This bike looks absolutely perfect as a 2nd bike for eu bros like myself
I mean maybe the SE or the regular R versions are better for beginners(or the Zx25R if it's sold in your country). Less stuff to adjust(which a beginner might not even bother tweaking), still screamers, fun and will be a lot cheaper. But I agree with Yammie in that if you have some sort of experience and you want something to keep for a long time then the 4RR might be it.
I love the look of the 40th anniversary 24 vs the 25 bikes. I hated the yellow stripe but I noticed it's only a sticker. (Im living my dreams now and don't want to boast) 💚 From Australia brother
Thanks Yammie for taking us along on the journey of this awesome little screamer.
Kawasaki priced it in a strange position, apparently its $9700, which is $700 more than an r7, which weighs the same, plus has more hp and torque, it also has fully adjustable forks, you could get about the same hp from the zx4rr but that requires a pipe and an ecu flash, which would probably set you back about $600 for the pipe and roughly $400 for an ecu flash, which brings the price up to $10700, which makes it $1700 more expensive than the r7, so why would I buy it over an r7? plus for another $800 you could get an aprilia rs600, which is 5kg lighter and has 100hp.
the r7 is one of the worst bikes to get. It has no soul no sound just like a 125cc. Its fun around the track but has bad seating for the streets. The bad seating would be okay if you would get speed and sound coming with it.
@@omargholam2514 I've never ridden an r7, but I have ridden a t7, I think most modern bikes have no soul, they're just too refined these days, the r7 does sound good with an aftermarket exhaust though, and the whole seating position is exactly what I would expect on a sports bike.
It's also about a $1000 less than a cbr650r, which has more power
The 4 cylinder sound and experience is hard to put a price on even if it's a bit slower.
In my country Indonesia, this motorbike has a "younger brother" which is zx25r. In my opinion, the zx25r is more manageable for beginners like me. However, I don't know whether if this bike was in America it would be able to keep up with the speed limit there or not. Because the maximum speed of the zx25r is only around 180km/h or 111mp/h. But these bikes (zx25 or zx4) are really fun to ride. Oh yeah i forgot. Zx25 can rev to 18.5k rpm
hell yea brother! the "almost feel like" riding a big bike without the ridiculous "more than 250cc" tax and being able to use all of the gears is fun! 🔥
I would love to have that bike in europe
I went to buy this bike. All the paperwork done and I had to cancel due to the insurance being 1500 for 6 months or something close to that. Crazyyyy, this would of been my second bike no claims no tickets nothing. I am going to try again next year when I'm 25.
The restricted U.S version of the ZX4R… is bbbbaaassically the same hp as a ZX25RR…which is learners approved here in NZ. 😁
Yep, pretty much aye 😄 so how's the ZX-25R?
I had a sit on one a few weeks ago when they finally had a couple in Christchurch.
Thank you for this excellent and detailed review from a beginner's perspective ! Really found it very valuable !
Hopefully this bike is the future all in option as far as performance goes going forward in America. The sport bike industry needs a massive detune to bring common since back to Americas streets and highways.
One can only hope.
It nice to see a inline 4 cylinder 400 again But honda did it first with the cb400f form 75 to 77 and that was a screamer of a machine
I have heard the upper power has been muted at 11000 rpm cuz of noise restrictions. Another reason a tune and pipe will make this bike awesome
Keeping fingers crossed for: 2023 / 24 Kawasaki Z400RS ( 4 CYLINDER ) &/or Adventure model of same 4 cylinder platform.
My first bike was a 1991 kawasaki zxr250 , more than enough super fun.
I think this bike Is a new version of super bike for the European market because no 600 is anymore in the market now
Personally i really like this bike despite all the hate it gets. Its still really light and still has more power than your typical 300-400cc
I'm still not a rider.....BUT......I'd rather start on this bike (or my other dream bike which is an Aprilia RS660!!) and NOT grow out of it after a couple months, then another bike after a few more months then another etc etc.....I'd rather spend the premium and hold onto it for a long time. Adding upgrades over time....tail tidy, Rizoma mirrors, flash ecu, exhaust, air filter/Venturi tubes, grips and bar-ends, you mentioned the brakes weren't radial pull so maybe they'll be an upgrade for that to a more traditional master cylinder along with handle bar levers.
This bike is so good and would just get better over time so it should last years not that regular few months where you grow out of it.
I think some folks are getting the Ninja 400 and the ZX-4rr confused.
where i live, the cb400sf is a common bike and most will start and settle down with it
tbh i dont know why people are stuck on the idea that this is a beginner bike. The beginner bike is the ninja 400. This bike was made for asian markets, where there is a huge cost of ownership on large displacement bikes, but a 400 cc is financially managable and you still get the inline 4 feeling and sound. And for those who want to get into track riding. The suspension and everything is higher spec than the ninja 400 so you get a bike which you can track straight out of the dealership. If you want a begginer or every day bike get the Ninja 400, if you want a track bike or live in aforementioned regions, get the zx4rr. The US and Europe are miniscule markets compared to Asia and South America. Kawasaki made the bike so may as well just bring it to the US as well. If they sell some, profit, if not, well who cares, they make it up in different markets. Same deal with the zx25r
I love your take on this bike but I'm going to say what everybody is thinking: the acquisition cost of the first batch of X4's is nearly the same as the ZX-6R! Good grief that's insane! I wonder if there's somebody out there that is going full-on counter-intuitive thinking, talking themselves more into the 636?! I missed out on this bike in my life and I love the idea for the entry riders and enthusiasts, at least when the price comes down and the market hydrates.
you could call it counter intuitive, but its pretty much exactly intuitive. I'm starting soon, looking for my first bike. It is absolutely insane to me that I'd pay the same price for both the zx6 and zx4 but its just a "worse" bike. The only limit is really your level of self control on the throttle..... Why should I bother getting a worse bike for the same price at that point lol. I love the look of the r7 but I prefer an inline 4s powerband and sound x1000. If this is my only option for an inline 4 that isnt too fast, then i just have to get a 600 it seems.
Zx-6r is the ticket for first bike no matter what nobody says because people grow like plants so that bike does ZX6R will last a long time for your growing. Instead of getting the ZX 4rr with the 6R you’re already there and then some we’ll definitely be satisfied going out route
I just played around on progressive's website and got a quote for the ZX down to $217/month opposed to the Ninja 400 at around $45/month at the cheapest for financing it. And, I'm not exactly a spring chicken.
True I pay $45 for my 2022 R3 and I know someone that has a ninja 636 and he pays $180 for it for insurance
$77 with progressive on an MT07
Just bought mine !!! 2024 zx4RR first bike !!!
I'm starting to want this over the R3, how does this bike compare to the comfort of the R3, city driving?
So stock its beginner friendly and when you're ready for a bigger bike just flash and tune it and bam you got it which results in keeping the bike longer than a regular 400.
My first bike I've ever rode n started out on was and is still a 650 ninja the 400 just looks like a fun bike to mess around on
im a 'relatively' wealthy European 50 year old doing my A2. Probably fine for me , but im currently on a 35kw restricticted ninja 650 and feel that is fine. understanding that I weight 73 kg , im flexible and
I feel like this isn’t meant for a beginner street rider. It would be perfect for someone with street riding experience but as a beginner track bike. You can really push it without doing 180.
I want this bike, if the had a 250 4 I’d buy that. I’ve never forgiven myself for selling my Suzuki RG500, my H2 triple, and my Honda CB-1 400. I’m not going to miss this future collectible. They won’t sell enough to keep it around very long.
The best beginner bike is a ‘busa. Always has been, always will be
Also on the insurance, if you finance a bike they will likely require you have both compressive and collision coverage which means even higher insurance!
Bruh, it's not that high. C'mon.
@@STAK_22 go get a free quote to insure a 400cc bike with the standard 1000 deductible on comp and collision. Try geico, all state or progressive and let me know if you find a rate less than 200/month. If the bike cost 10k - financed - your note is probably around 300.
Let's compare it to my 400. Full bolt ons vs stock ZX4RR and then I'll put my built engine in vs the ZX4RR after a tune
MSRP is $9699 and all 4 dealers near me in west Texas have it in stock at that price. OTD a bit over $11k.
I would say this is more of a "track" focused machine hence the price tag. If you want small displacement but something out of the box to rip around the circuit on this is the answer. For a "true" decent first bike just opt for the regular 400 with twin cylinders, the insurance will be cheaper and it can still be tricked out with nice parts.
I've actually taken a few insurance quotes on this model and the they quoted below other "supersport" bikes.
That price point is insane. Not until they drop the mark.
seriously... I wonder how many they'll be able to sell at that price... You have to be out of your mind to pay $13K for that thing...
I'd pay $7500-8000 tops. Any more than that and I'm going zx6
Yeah brand new ZX6R can be had for 10.6k at my local dealer...how the fuck can this possibly be priced even remotely close to that? Should be 8k
@@Faceless_Chat if you check around the comments you will find that they comes in very limited number and most are already paid and bought before they even arrived 😂
Im a begginner biker in brasil and after this vídeo, i Think, yes im Will buy this bike.
Re.: Insurance quote ---- I had this bike in my hands ---- called on insurance, NYS riding season is too short for $1638, whereas H-D Nightster Special for: $391. Rates are set with history prevailing re.: Common purchaser for a: supersport / sport / potential track bike.
this bike is the final boss, who wants to be stuck in first gear on a liter bike? who wants to be stuck in 3rd gear on an 600cc? i have so much more fun stinging the neck on a grom! I'm definitely getting one of these!!!
Never been stuck in those gears on those bikes 🤔 Not to say this bike isn’t fun
@TheMotoBikeLife perhaps not, I had an r1 that had a 90mph 1st gear, much too fast for me. My cbr600rr was also too fast. The speed limit is 75 here. This zx4rr would be so much fun at a track and in a pack!
My guy is PUMPING these rr videos 😅 gonna make the money back just in the video content ads.
if you want the zx4 expoerience on the cheap get an old bantid 400, same 52-53 hp 4cyl its just a naked not a faired sportbike
I live in the Philippines, this is among the latest from kawasaki, ZX25R SE AND ZX4RR are the hottest selling on the market na,
3, sea leavel ,95 - 97 octane fuel is available everywhere.
2, No restrictions in the Asain market,, it's fn fast !!
1, ZX25R SE, 428,500 php/ ZX4RR 510.500php every option.
this guy "2 Wheel DynoWorks" who took one of these put a slip on and flashed the ecu and increased the power from 53 to 74hp
Taking into the acct price, function & the norte americano penchant for big ie power & bragging rights, this zx4rr is a terrible 1st bike. It is however an amazing enthusiast bike as a 2nd (or 3rd...) machine. As mentioned this zx4rr will allow the seasoned rider the opportunity to ring it out on the streets which in & of itself is fun as heck. As a ex life long sportbike rider, I'd def keep my eyes on this (& the rest of the 600 mid pack) if I were to get back into riding
In Australia zx4rr 40th $15k the zx6r 40th was $18k. I saw 25 650l $13.5k but I didn't ask about 25 zx4rr zx6r as I was only interested in 40th anniversary bikes (not 650l or 1000sx 40th colours though)
Would be good to see some comparisons with other larger beginner bikes like cbr650r mt07 ninja 650 ect
Tbh I think it’s fine as a starter, I’m starting on a 2024 triumph Street triple RS 😂
Tbh it's too much motorcycle for a noob,it's comfortable and one of the best naked bikes but it's dangerous for your level of riding,get something smaller like a ninja 3-400 for a year then upgrade!!
@@skywalker he can do wtf he wants, who are you
@@drlecter3608 he's probably someone with experience trying to offer a new rider some guidance?
That’s a motorcycle that will do well into the triple digits and has a torque curve that wants to pull the front wheel up.
Way too much bike for a beginner.
Little wonder the States has such a high motorcycle fatality rate! I just upgraded from my first bike (a restricted Trident 660) to the new Striple RS. The Street Triple is properly rapid and would make an absolutely terrible first bike.
In Australia it's not classified as beginners bike. You can't ride until 3 years of having your bike licence here
I’d rather have a Grom for a beginner bike or even a R3 or MT03.
I feel like his ZX4RR is a great bike for someone who already knows how to ride and wants something more advanced without all the power like a 600cc+ bike.
All the modes are nice to have but like you mentioned in the video. Everyone just skips it anyways 😂 goes straight for the race mode.