the guy who bought the 1 local bike paid $400 more out the door than my 23 ZX6R, we rode and played around, honestly if your mostly street driving it's more fun than my ZX6R simply because you can use more of the bike without ending up in cuffs and your bike on a tow truck.
You nailed it. You can get the same experience for 60% the cost on a 650. You just won't rev to 16000. Each can spend their own money how they want, but you're paying 600cc money for a beginner bike with a 600cc sound.
Well at that point you ARE using it on the streets, and the pull is just so weak for the streets/highway. Dank wheelie full throttled it from 60 mph in 4th (around 7k rpm) and it took 3 seconds to get to 70mph and 8 seconds to get to 80mph. When he pulled full throttle in 6th gear (lower rpms) it was just terrible. I mean i guess you COULD live with it, but i was always told that that was the kind of passing power a beginner would outgrow in a few months. And as a beginner I don't want to spend 10 grand on something I'll outgrow in a few months.
I agree with you sir! This is an awesome bike. People say the same thing about the R7 "might as well get a 600 SS". If you buy a zx6 or other 600 instead of this, good for you. Not everyone needs or wants over 100 hp for the street
I have the Ninja 400, modded all out with Norton Racing parts (sorry, didnt know about you guys til recently,lol) and Im a retired sponsored by Kawasaki Team Green, retired motocross racer, a few state mini championships back in the day. My point is that I grew up riding and racing Kawi's, Ive had a old Ninja zx6r, an 1972 750 H2, a Ninja 300, 3 Ninja 250's at one time, lol, and a pile of motocross racing bikes...I love my 400. I do wish I could get more torque, more aggressive passing power, but its the only complaint I have. Ive put 19,ooo miles on my bike in the last yr and a half, Im ALWAYS riding, even in winter, and we have horrible winters. I would kill for one of these. It kills my heart to know I will never own one of these, Ive waited decades for this bike to come out. I like the light, tiny, agile bikes more than the bigger ones. Theyre just more fun, and I have a family, I dont need to be going 170mph. lol This bike is EXACTLY what Ive always wanted, I just know I will never have the $$ and it just kills me..lifetime Kawi rider, loyal to no end. This bike looks like SO MUCH FUN.
I'm not into sportbikes, but I have to say this little 400 looks excellent. The whole package, especially the color really pops. One guy on yt did a tune and exhaust and put over 70 hp to the wheel. Nice.
My bike had 4 miles on it from the dealer. It now has 29 and its a fantastic beginner bike. WOrks perfect for me and i very happy i chose it and not just the regular 400.
Best feeling out of all the Kawis I've owned! Super balanced out of the box and I can't wait to see how it reacts with more power and less weight once aftermarket support ramps up
@Michael Bigdongovic Not really needed for plain street riding. I do have both, just my opinion. Quick shifter on CBR is superior, all it lacks is the auto blipper.
My Ninja 400 was on sale for $3150 and I loved it. After a couple years I traded it for a Triumph America ($8500 bike) plus put some cash in my pocket.
I traded in my 2021 MT07 for this bike and haven't regretted it. I missed the inline 4. I didn't want to get the ZX6R. It has way to much power for everyday riding on public roads. I didn't want to always be holding it back. I just love turning this bike loose once in awhile and not be breaking the law, too much. I got mine at MSRP. I'll ever track my bike so I was wondering if I could put the clip ons above the triple tree like the Z400 is. I figure you just have to drop the front end about a half an inch and maybe drill and trap a couple of holes on the triple tree. This would make the bike a little more comfortable with an upright sitting position. Maybe dropping the whole bike about an inch. I don't think you even have to buy and adjustable side stand. I live in Kentucky with some great riding areas.
The Honda CB1 was a bike way ahead of it’s time but in the American Market never appreciated ! These 400CC bikes cannot be driven like a bigger displacement sport bike . There is no power or torque at lower revs and the gearbox is the key to keeping the engine at its most useful power range . Even today they are misunderstood by many as we have gotten spoiled with big CC bikes .
@Michael Bigdongovic I know but I'm hoping they follow in kawasaki footsteps of making something fun instead of chasing money. Its been all the same bikes for a while now. A new engine type like this is a great opportunity.
You guys should try to make an aftermarket aluminum frame that we could swap the steel one for. That would drop the weight quite a bit and probably the bike even more tossable and quicker.
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Great review. I so wanted to pull the trigger this summer but held back. I might wave some cash around the 'deal'ership if they're not sold out this winter. Imagine this beast with a flashed ECU and and an Akrapovič! I'd love to crash one at the track. 4:48 See the manhole? A few years ago, I hit one of these in the rain at night.. while riding peppy on my street Kawi400R. Just as I was giving it max twist, it spun like it was on the dyno and off I went, lol. Those manholes man, they are hard to see, and they are greased lightning when they are wet. You see in the timestamp how you are just spooling up as you get to it? You're not going crazy there but even that could get you at that spool up rate too! Remember: Cars may be safer, but they lean the wrong way. STAY SAFE OUT THERE!!
Slippery slope there friend. No one "needs" many things in life. I prefer the ability to choose based upon free markets rather than edicts by those who determine my needs. That being said, I love my ZX4 for what it is and not lament for what it isn't.
I appreciate the feedback. It was more-so a comment directed at the people who think only bikes above 1000cc are "real bikes" when in reality, almost any bike above 300cc can handle real-world riding situations just fine.
Dont forget according to the government and insurance companies, smaller cc's make everything cheaper and where I live (Quebec), this is in the 125-400cc class making it super cheap on the regis. +1 for the inline-4
Definitely think these two will compete the most in the market as well, not the ninja 650 and R7. Similar power, similar riding position, similar price. Just different ways of getting there.
I do think they should've offered the "RR" version in something else in addition to the KRT considering the USA is only getting the "RR" model for now but if we receive the base R, we could possibly see other color choices become available. You can also try to find someone in Canada who plans on racing theirs and see if they'd be willing to sell the black bodywork to you.
@@hungry_bikerThe ZX-4R SE (Special Edition) also comes with the KRT livery only. The SE version doesn't have the RR graphics and BFRC-lite rear shock which the ZX-4RR have. But the SE comes with some accessories like smoked windshield, frame silders and USB power socket.
This would be my perfect bike if kawasaki or aftermarket did one thing take the body work from 90s zxr 400 four and make it fit this bike, then it would look as good as it runs and handles. I love that era looks but love todays tech and chassis and suspension
I hope Kawasaki will step it up if they bring the “base” model to the U.S. and give the ZX4RR an aluminum frame with a rear subframe assembly!!! ( which the top trim level should have had from the beginning…hello Kawasaki 😢 ) Maybe they are just being lazy because they would have had to seriously step it up and make the 636 better😎Or they didn’t want to invest until they new there was a market for it?? Either way there’s nothing better than a little sibling rivalry 🎉🎉🎉👍
listen this bike tuned with an ecu flash full exhaust will get you at BEST 73HP. the ZX6R ECU FLASHED AND FULL EXHAUST and CHANGING THE VELOCITY STACKS WILL GET YOU AROUND 120HP. You tell me whats better! Do you need a 1000cc on roads in My opinion absolutely No they are sick fast too fast... However in my opinion the zx6R is the best bike to own for power weight ratio, and comfort... if you do not want to be comfortable to go buy an R6, not comfortable at all...
It could work but there are other bikes out there that can work better for you. Take the R3 or Ninja 400 for instance. They will be a bit lighter, require much less high revving, cost less, and easier to sell when you are ready to move on. I think our friend XP Rider has some excellent videos on choosing a small displacement first bike. Check out his videos.
Hello, motobuddy! Thanks for the nice review you have uploaded for us. I have not put my hands on a zx-4rr yet, but considering to purchase one. I'd like to know how you feel about the engine work in terms of smoothness between zx-4rr and 400. I wonder whether there is a substantial difference or not. Lately have been riding a z900 and was really surprised of the buttery-smooth work of 948 cc engine. Thanks
What's up gents! This question goes to you guys and everyone else that's going to give their opinion anyways lol. I'm 41 years old former infantry Marine discipline looking to become a true rider. It is on my bucket list to get on track and if I can become skilled enough one day possibly even enter an AMA circuit race. Ultimately my question is could this be a good first bike for me? Thank you for your time and all of the content. I live in Indian Shores so TST is definitely on my list of places to bring my bike once I get it no matter what I get!
I live in Iran, and we have zx25rr here, it's also scarce here. here the government has this customs/tax added on the price of the vehicles people buy (they basically steal from people) and get this, the tax is as the price of the vehicle, in this case, this bike costs around 8k but if you wanna buy it in Iran you have to pay 16K, I know I can buy a gixxer with that price but bikes above 250CC are illegal here. all that being said I'm waiting for dealerships to sell us the new 2023 25r model.
You could've gotten an R1S for $13k when they released, I guess with that logic you shouldn't get a ZX6R either. It sounds like you got a major deal in your area but that's not the norm by any means. We're seeing ZX-6Rs going for $13.5k+ in our area.
Heres my big question: If youre not racing or running in a pack, is the two cylinder ninja 400 still pretty much as fun? I live in the Ozark mountains and we have lots of roads to carve. But i normally only ride by myself, not in a pack. Just me and the curves. Im talking only fun factor. Is the less expensive ninja 400 still going to deliver?
I've been riding my 400 nearly daily for two years now, it is an absolute blast every time I take it out! My only recommendation (besides the TST lights, they look incredible) would be a wider section rear tire (or just any upgrade from the stock tires)
You made talk that this would heartbreak or upset R7 and RS660 owners.. I Own a RS660 and with out a doubt thier is no comparison to a RS660. The RS will beat it and any aspect or category. As far as the R7 I'm not entirely sure but in my opinion the R7 will walk all over it as well. Lastly my opinion of this new bike is kawi will lose thier butt in the U.S market
@@psyclone63 what, you mean the sound? Because the power doesn't engage at all. Dank wheelie was disappointed. After all, he full throttled it from 60mph in 4th gear and it took 3 seconds to get to 70 and 8 seconds to get to 80. And i just don't know about superior quickshifter. Personally, i don't recall any complaints about aprilia's qs. Better built? You mean more reliable? I'll let kawasaki have that but i don't look to sports bikes for practicality and reliability. I look to sports bikes for power and performance. And i believe the aprilia is more powerful, plus that torque will pull it out of corners on a track and past semis on a highway. Or maybe you mean build quality and fit and finish. I'm sure the fit and finish of the zx4 is pretty nice. Yeah, probably better than an rs660. I just think the zx4 is a bit too expensive for the torque. You can get better bikes for the price. If it was 2 grand cheaper, it would be awesome. Or at least $1,500 cheaper
Could this kill liter bikes for street use(for a commuter bike and also fun bike)? it's way cheaper to own, insure and maintain, more usable gearing and power for smaller roads. Being able to up shit more and hearing the beautiful sound. This bike made liter bikes feel like they belong only on the track.
Great video, thank you!! Would you buy this or a pre-owned R6 in the same price range ($11k out the door). I just bought a Ninja 1000 SX and love it. I’m really torn between this bike and an R6. What are your thoughts???
It solely depends on what you're looking to do. An R6 is a great all around bike, but especially on the track. If you're buying a used one, there's a lot to take into consideration as opposed to purchasing a brand new bike. If you want a bike that can handle everyday riding and rip on the track without destroying your back, the ZX-4R(R) may be a good option for you. If you want something a little more aggressive in styling and power, the R6 is a great choice.
Man, it's such a hard decision between the Ninja 500 or the ZX4RR. Forget the sound and other aesthetic points. The traction control, quick shifter, ability to boost like 30 HP with a tune and exhaust.. the ZX4RR might be the ultimate starter bike.
I'm not sure I fully understand what you're asking. Are you referring to the ground clearance when leaned over or how far it's leaned over on the kickstand?
@@TSTindustries hey, sorry I meant rider position when sitting on the bike. Do you find the position more aggressive on the 4RR? About to check both the 23 4RR and the 24 ZX-6 here in MD but test rides are not allowed unfortunately
@@TSTindustries was able to sit on the 4RR today, man what a comfortable bike compared to the ZX-6. I like them both and their price point is so similar, but I think I might end up with the 4RR, so cool!
A moto chegou no mercado brasileiro com preço pouco atrativo, mais cara do que à CBR650R e próxima ao preço de uma Zx6r, uma pena porque parece ser uma moto incrível mas fui de Zx6r. Acho engraçado como vocês pilotam, parar atrás de um carro no farol e não pegar corredor no Brasil é algo impensável kkkk
I wouldn't be upset if a zx4 passed me (in the corners at least lol) on the track if i'm on an r7 or rs660. We paid about the same price, after all. My guess is he's a better rider than me. I already know there are better riders than me. If we swapped bikes he'd probably still pass me.
Great review and video. I gave it a like... But man, everybody with the constant hand gestures when they talk. That is such a bad habit to be in, especially on a motorcycle. You have to constantly let go of the grip so you can wiggle your hand around because you're talking lol. It looks so strange to me. I hardly ever use hand gestures when I talk. I wonder how many accidents have been caused by people because of this? Safe travels man.
I've heard talk that the power output would be neutered in North America in order to meet with sound regulations (per Revzilla's S07E03 Highside Lowside). Can you confirm this?
A lot of guys on reddit that own or have owned the RS 660 talk about their poor experiences with Aprilla. From complete engine failure, electrical shortages to sqeaking breaks. Not too mention how expensive it is to maintain that bike.
Would you recommend this bike as a first sport bike? I've ridden dualsports for years, and narrowed down my first sport bike to either the ninja 400 or the ZX-4RR. Looks like the riding position is more upright, toward the Ninja 400 than Supersport bikes. Riding position looks very comfortable, not backbreaking.
@@strumfury3210 Congrats my friend. First sport bike or first motorcycle altogether? How do you find the riding position? Narrow down my choice to either the ninja 400 or the Ninja ZX-4RR. I have the cash for either one. I really like the high-revving engine sound and exhaust note of an inline 4. That screaming sound makes it like you're riding very fast, but in reality you're still not breaking the law too badly.
If you're gonna be commuting the ninja 400 is gonna be more comfortable and more usable torque, and the zx4rr, while very comfortable for a supersport, it's still a supersport lol
@@strumfury3210 this is not a smart thing to do. A ZX4RR is not a first bike. It is not a parallel for the Ninja 400. You are likely to hurt yourself.
Thoughts on suspension? Any adjustments available? I’m half way through the video so it may get answered later, but I don’t want to forget the question. Weight? For a 400 I would want a sub 400 pound bike, but specifically how that weight is balanced if it is over 400 is what I am looking for. My 750 is poorly balanced and feels like it’s 460 pounds lol. My buddy has a cbr600 which is within a few pounds and that bike is balanced so well it almost feels like I’m pushing my R3 around (at a stand still, not while moving). Thoughts on the quickshifter and blipper? I’m personally not a fan of 1 piece res/master but oh well. Edit: are the fork tubes 50mm?
@@kushpaladin yeah, I knew the figures were over the 400 mark. My gsxr750 weighs 420ish stock, which is exactly why didn’t want the 25R (also over 400 pounds) and was hesitant with this one. For me it would be almost like riding a zx6r in lower power mode. My R3 is now at 320 pounds and alot of folks have gotten this bike to sub 300. I have a thing for ultralight weight bikes.
@@Exonic_ most exhausts will shave 8-12 pounds for the lighter weight bikes and as much as 35-40ish for the really big bikes (Hayabusa for example). I know how it goes lol.
@@Exonic_ have you pulled yours off the 4RR and weighed it? That would be valuable info for the community. That’s the first thing I did as soon as I installed the Spark Italy full exhaust on my R3.
@@jamalwilliams1009 Absolutely. Because I feel more “in” the bike instead of “on” it, it didn’t strain me at all during any rides just yet. I think with some tank grips you can extend your riding time even a bit more without much more strain.
The best riders i know, and know of, started on smaller and less capable machines, then learned to max out the performance from each stepping stone bike. When a rider goes through a progression like that they possess superior skill, discipline, and ability to learn/adapt.
@@TSTindustries Thanks for taking this measurement. My Hayabusa had roughly the same seat to peg distance and I ended up lowering the pegs a bit to give me more legroom. Same with my Tuono so I'm sure I would need to do the same if I got this one. Cheers
No, the zx4rr and zx6r feel almost identical! The seat height feels the same, the zx4rr has slightly higher clip-ons. The zx4rr has a better kickstand imo. I got the opportunity to sit on them both side by side!
Could you just add a riser or higher clip on’s to the zx6r to make it more comfortable? Can’t decide between this and zx6r never had a motor under 600cc but i want an inline 4 with a decent riding position, sold my 959 panigale because it was painful to ride.
@@abyb1923 so i bought a zx4rr and I've already done 400km trips. Its definitely fine for me but im also pretty small (170cm) so it might be very different for a taller person
That depends on how much you ride, how fast you ride, and your acceleration demands. There is no way to approximate the value you are asking for with any degree of precision.
The CBR650R, in my opinion, is a very tame bike that's not anything like its slightly smaller sibling the CBR600RR. This ZX4RR would be comparable to the CBR600RR in terms of power delivery and overall feel. It's very "supersport" inspired whereas the 650R feels more like a bike trying to be a supersport. Additionally, no quickshifter, no riding modes, no laptimer, and no adjustable rear shock - just to name a few things the CBR650R doesn't have.
@@TSTindustries Thank you for detail reply. I get it for track maybe but in city, commuting, twisties - does the 650R not have better acceleration and decent electronics already? Note we don't have 600RR here in Ireland. I have a feeling this bike is last hurrah of nostalgia of high revving, flashy looking, 4 cylinder machines. I'd like to test ride one but where I am there's a queue till next year to buy never mind to try.
Doesn’t seem much faster than Ninja 400. I’m sure top end has more potential… but eh. Putting race clip ons on would require modifying the plastics. Most of these reviewers are hucking for the brand or just not that good at what they’re doing.
This review was done with the bike as "stock" as possible outside of cosmetic changes. Once we flashed the ECU, we saw a 12hp increase in power. Saying this bike isn't much faster than a Ninja 400 is comparable to saying the R6 isn't faster than the R7.
The best bike would be a ZX-650R for the roads since the 600’s market is on decline pretty much everywhere. They should make a competitor to the CBR650R, but make it more like a ZX sporty and aggressive look without a freakin’ ugly banana seat. 110hp with 50in/lb would be legit. Keep the same bike, same ergonomics, but fit a 650cc engine in there, so you get more torque to pass cars with ease. I love the ZX-4RR tho and hope to get my hands on one here in Montreal, Canada. Supersports license plates are 2000$ compared to under 400cc that are 430$ a year and we only get about 5 months of warm weather.
That bike you're describing sounds like a ZX-6R. The CBR650R is an inline 4 bike, similar to the ZX-6R, but not as tuned for power. The ZX-6R is 127hp at 52ft/lbs of torque. An inline-4 650CC from Kawasaki wouldn't fit in as they have the Ninja 650 / Z650 (parallel twin) and the ZX-6R (inline-4).
@@TSTindustries I know, right ? 26 in/lb of torque is weak tho and inline 4 is way to go for true sport bikes. The Ninja 650 to me is an effective bike, but the sound of parallel twin kills the sport aspect of it.
Best bang for your buck? That's delusional fan boy verbiage... good bike yes, but absolutely the furthest thing away from best bang for you bucks lolol
the guy who bought the 1 local bike paid $400 more out the door than my 23 ZX6R, we rode and played around, honestly if your mostly street driving it's more fun than my ZX6R simply because you can use more of the bike without ending up in cuffs and your bike on a tow truck.
THIS!!!!!
Exactly why I am buying it and I'm not lucky to live around major hwys & freeways.
You nailed it. You can get the same experience for 60% the cost on a 650. You just won't rev to 16000. Each can spend their own money how they want, but you're paying 600cc money for a beginner bike with a 600cc sound.
That’s why you hit the gas and cut the lights
Well at that point you ARE using it on the streets, and the pull is just so weak for the streets/highway. Dank wheelie full throttled it from 60 mph in 4th (around 7k rpm) and it took 3 seconds to get to 70mph and 8 seconds to get to 80mph. When he pulled full throttle in 6th gear (lower rpms) it was just terrible. I mean i guess you COULD live with it, but i was always told that that was the kind of passing power a beginner would outgrow in a few months. And as a beginner I don't want to spend 10 grand on something I'll outgrow in a few months.
I agree with you sir! This is an awesome bike. People say the same thing about the R7 "might as well get a 600 SS". If you buy a zx6 or other 600 instead of this, good for you. Not everyone needs or wants over 100 hp for the street
I have the Ninja 400, modded all out with Norton Racing parts (sorry, didnt know about you guys til recently,lol) and Im a retired sponsored by Kawasaki Team Green, retired motocross racer, a few state mini championships back in the day. My point is that I grew up riding and racing Kawi's, Ive had a old Ninja zx6r, an 1972 750 H2, a Ninja 300, 3 Ninja 250's at one time, lol, and a pile of motocross racing bikes...I love my 400. I do wish I could get more torque, more aggressive passing power, but its the only complaint I have. Ive put 19,ooo miles on my bike in the last yr and a half, Im ALWAYS riding, even in winter, and we have horrible winters. I would kill for one of these. It kills my heart to know I will never own one of these, Ive waited decades for this bike to come out. I like the light, tiny, agile bikes more than the bigger ones. Theyre just more fun, and I have a family, I dont need to be going 170mph. lol This bike is EXACTLY what Ive always wanted, I just know I will never have the $$ and it just kills me..lifetime Kawi rider, loyal to no end. This bike looks like SO MUCH FUN.
if you really want it you will get it
I'm not into sportbikes, but I have to say this little 400 looks excellent. The whole package, especially the color really pops. One guy on yt did a tune and exhaust and put over 70 hp to the wheel. Nice.
sadly it only makey around 50 on dyno.
A 50 Kawasaki racing team in a track
In spain this model has 77hp@@omargholam2514
78 hp with a 250$ ecu flash!
@@omargholam2514 US/Canada standard tune for emission regulations. Europe is 77 (?) - 80 bhp with ram-air effect.
Was literally checking this bike out today, seems like a pretty solid choice
Take it for a test ride!
My bike had 4 miles on it from the dealer. It now has 29 and its a fantastic beginner bike. WOrks perfect for me and i very happy i chose it and not just the regular 400.
Great to hear and thanks for the feedback!
I am surprised it took this long to release a I4 400 sized bike. I am sure a lot of people don't want a paraelle twin.
There were several of this configuration/displacement bikes back in the 80s and 90s
Yamaha had one in the late 80s early 90s.
Best feeling out of all the Kawis I've owned! Super balanced out of the box and I can't wait to see how it reacts with more power and less weight once aftermarket support ramps up
We're on the way! 😉
What bike are you coming from?
Or you can buy the 600 which has less weight and more power out of the box...
@@KapitanPisoar1 it’s not less weight
@@KapitanPisoar1 that’s also a insane and childish response, not to mention hypocritical. You’d not respond to it the way you clearly want people to
Not sure if I'd say "best bang for your buck"
We respect your opinion!
I guess if your a street rider.
@@cacend cbr650 is superior for plain street riding for just $100 more including destination fees.
@@xorbe2 The ZX4RR is a faster bike than a CBR650R if you look at power-to-weight. I’d rather be pushing 415lbs than 456lbs around traffic.
@Michael Bigdongovic Not really needed for plain street riding. I do have both, just my opinion. Quick shifter on CBR is superior, all it lacks is the auto blipper.
My Ninja 400 was on sale for $3150 and I loved it. After a couple years I traded it for a Triumph America ($8500 bike) plus put some cash in my pocket.
How did you have extra cash?
I traded in my 2021 MT07 for this bike and haven't regretted it. I missed the inline 4. I didn't want to get the ZX6R. It has way to much power for everyday riding on public roads. I didn't want to always be holding it back. I just love turning this bike loose once in awhile and not be breaking the law, too much. I got mine at MSRP. I'll ever track my bike so I was wondering if I could put the clip ons above the triple tree like the Z400 is. I figure you just have to drop the front end about a half an inch and maybe drill and trap a couple of holes on the triple tree. This would make the bike a little more comfortable with an upright sitting position. Maybe dropping the whole bike about an inch. I don't think you even have to buy and adjustable side stand. I live in Kentucky with some great riding areas.
The Honda CB1 was a bike way ahead of it’s time but in the American Market never appreciated !
These 400CC bikes cannot be driven like a bigger displacement sport bike .
There is no power or torque at lower revs and the gearbox is the key to keeping the engine at its most useful power range .
Even today they are misunderstood by many as we have gotten spoiled with big CC bikes .
Would love to see the other big brands make their own version as well!
@Michael Bigdongovic I know but I'm hoping they follow in kawasaki footsteps of making something fun instead of chasing money. Its been all the same bikes for a while now. A new engine type like this is a great opportunity.
Yamaha will release a 250cc inline four soon. Honda is allegedly working on one aswell
@@TheIncridibleOne if yamaha do a 250cc inline four im putting a deposit down straight away lol
I would love to see honda turn the cbr500r into an inline 4.
Once upon a time they did. Maybe 400/4s will come back again?
My dream bike. I love it. I had Kawasaki ninja zxr 400 1992.
Those are worth big money nowadays if they are in good shape. I feel like they also had better tier tech as compared to todays high rev 400
You guys should try to make an aftermarket aluminum frame that we could swap the steel one for. That would drop the weight quite a bit and probably the bike even more tossable and quicker.
That would be ridiculously expensive, surely.
Thousands of dollars to save 5, maybe 10 pounds. You can do that with an exhaust system and a lithium battery.
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I picked mine up last Saturday in WA. Rumor is the base bike is coming to the US this fall.
Definitely getting a base model or the 500 whoever comes first
Thanks for the shoutout Mark! I love this bike... so much fun to be had! Great review!! So excited to see all the stuff you guys make for this bike 👊🏼
Love the 250cc version here in Indonesia, and I can't believe many literbike users in Indonesia selling their bike for this little Hulk 😅
everyone saying its expensive af, but if you tried to get a R7 at a dealership it would be 9-10k. another 2k isn't that crazy
Shit in my area R7s go for 13-15k otd lol
R7 is overrated...
Right. Y-Noob is usually pushing the Svartpilen 401, but that’s $7k out the door and feels *very* cheap. At least the ZX4 has a quality feel.
Great review. I so wanted to pull the trigger this summer but held back. I might wave some cash around the 'deal'ership if they're not sold out this winter.
Imagine this beast with a flashed ECU and and an Akrapovič! I'd love to crash one at the track.
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See the manhole? A few years ago, I hit one of these in the rain at night.. while riding peppy on my street Kawi400R. Just as I was giving it max twist, it spun like it was on the dyno and off I went, lol. Those manholes man, they are hard to see, and they are greased lightning when they are wet. You see in the timestamp how you are just spooling up as you get to it? You're not going crazy there but even that could get you at that spool up rate too!
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Excellent. Your comments, comparisons and analyses are very well thought out, especially with regard to larger engines. Thank you very much!
Slippery slope there friend.
No one "needs" many things in life. I prefer the ability to choose based upon free markets rather than edicts by those who determine my needs.
That being said, I love my ZX4 for what it is and not lament for what it isn't.
I appreciate the feedback. It was more-so a comment directed at the people who think only bikes above 1000cc are "real bikes" when in reality, almost any bike above 300cc can handle real-world riding situations just fine.
Dont forget according to the government and insurance companies, smaller cc's make everything cheaper and where I live (Quebec), this is in the 125-400cc class making it super cheap on the regis. +1 for the inline-4
I think a lot like the R-7, it’ll be a huge asset to track schools nationwide.
This is a great idea!
Definitely think these two will compete the most in the market as well, not the ninja 650 and R7.
Similar power, similar riding position, similar price. Just different ways of getting there.
First! Watching from the Philippines
Thanks for the love!
Thank you, the videos are very good and I really like the machine
Really wish the upgraded version came in just straight black, the green is a bit too tacky for me
I do think they should've offered the "RR" version in something else in addition to the KRT considering the USA is only getting the "RR" model for now but if we receive the base R, we could possibly see other color choices become available. You can also try to find someone in Canada who plans on racing theirs and see if they'd be willing to sell the black bodywork to you.
They have something called a "SE' version for other markets, which is essentially the RR without the KRT livery.
Hope they bring it in 2024.
They're announcing all the 2024 stuff in 25 days or so, definitely a different color scheme
@@hungry_bikerThe ZX-4R SE (Special Edition) also comes with the KRT livery only. The SE version doesn't have the RR graphics and BFRC-lite rear shock which the ZX-4RR have. But the SE comes with some accessories like smoked windshield, frame silders and USB power socket.
Wrap it...
I paid 13400 for my 23’ zx6 krt with abs. The price for the zx4 is ridiculous
This would be my perfect bike if kawasaki or aftermarket did one thing take the body work from 90s zxr 400 four and make it fit this bike, then it would look as good as it runs and handles. I love that era looks but love todays tech and chassis and suspension
I hope Kawasaki will step it up if they bring the “base” model to the U.S. and give the ZX4RR an aluminum frame with a rear subframe assembly!!! ( which the top trim level should have had from the beginning…hello Kawasaki 😢 ) Maybe they are just being lazy because they would have had to seriously step it up and make the 636 better😎Or they didn’t want to invest until they new there was a market for it?? Either way there’s nothing better than a little sibling rivalry 🎉🎉🎉👍
listen this bike tuned with an ecu flash full exhaust will get you at BEST 73HP.
the ZX6R ECU FLASHED AND FULL EXHAUST and CHANGING THE VELOCITY STACKS WILL GET YOU AROUND 120HP.
You tell me whats better!
Do you need a 1000cc on roads in My opinion absolutely No they are sick fast too fast...
However in my opinion the zx6R is the best bike to own for power weight ratio, and comfort...
if you do not want to be comfortable to go buy an R6, not comfortable at all...
I'd be interested to hear if people think this would be appropriate for a beginner bike... I really love the idea of this bike
It could work but there are other bikes out there that can work better for you. Take the R3 or Ninja 400 for instance. They will be a bit lighter, require much less high revving, cost less, and easier to sell when you are ready to move on. I think our friend XP Rider has some excellent videos on choosing a small displacement first bike. Check out his videos.
Good review. Please try your hardest to stop saying "LETS GO AHEAD AND..."
Hello, motobuddy! Thanks for the nice review you have uploaded for us. I have not put my hands on a zx-4rr yet, but considering to purchase one. I'd like to know how you feel about the engine work in terms of smoothness between zx-4rr and 400. I wonder whether there is a substantial difference or not. Lately have been riding a z900 and was really surprised of the buttery-smooth work of 948 cc engine. Thanks
Got a Honda cb1000r inline 4, but boy i wouldn't mind this little screamer!!
This little rocket sure is much fun.
If I didn’t just buy a bike I would consider this. I don’t need anything fast to have fun but that’s just me.
What's up gents! This question goes to you guys and everyone else that's going to give their opinion anyways lol. I'm 41 years old former infantry Marine discipline looking to become a true rider. It is on my bucket list to get on track and if I can become skilled enough one day possibly even enter an AMA circuit race. Ultimately my question is could this be a good first bike for me? Thank you for your time and all of the content. I live in Indian Shores so TST is definitely on my list of places to bring my bike once I get it no matter what I get!
I live in Iran, and we have zx25rr here, it's also scarce here. here the government has this customs/tax added on the price of the vehicles people buy (they basically steal from people) and get this, the tax is as the price of the vehicle, in this case, this bike costs around 8k but if you wanna buy it in Iran you have to pay 16K, I know I can buy a gixxer with that price but bikes above 250CC are illegal here. all that being said I'm waiting for dealerships to sell us the new 2023 25r model.
Just waiting on new registration due on 2nd march full power version rr as I’m in Scotland.MrC
I got a brand new 2023 ZX-6R krt edition for 12,100 cash after taxes. Don’t buy a 400 for 10k plus guys.
You could've gotten an R1S for $13k when they released, I guess with that logic you shouldn't get a ZX6R either. It sounds like you got a major deal in your area but that's not the norm by any means. We're seeing ZX-6Rs going for $13.5k+ in our area.
I get that its a KRT edition. I just wish they offered them in another color. Tho i will still buy it anyway
I think they will roll out with other colors. This first launch was a marketing play so the most prominent Kawasaki iconography was used.
Heres my big question:
If youre not racing or running in a pack, is the two cylinder ninja 400 still pretty much as fun?
I live in the Ozark mountains and we have lots of roads to carve. But i normally only ride by myself, not in a pack.
Just me and the curves.
Im talking only fun factor.
Is the less expensive ninja 400 still going to deliver?
Yes, i believe that bike does still deliver on what youre after. We also own two of those here.
I've been riding my 400 nearly daily for two years now, it is an absolute blast every time I take it out! My only recommendation (besides the TST lights, they look incredible) would be a wider section rear tire (or just any upgrade from the stock tires)
@@ChristopherBailey-jm5ur my biggest issues with my 400 is the buzzing from the 2 cylinder engine.
You made talk that this would heartbreak or upset R7 and RS660 owners.. I Own a RS660 and with out a doubt thier is no comparison to a RS660. The RS will beat it and any aspect or category. As far as the R7 I'm not entirely sure but in my opinion the R7 will walk all over it as well. Lastly my opinion of this new bike is kawi will lose thier butt in the U.S market
Interesting take and thanks for your feedback! We're excited to see where this goes.
Kawasaki engine is more fun and engaging than Aprilia. Feels better built. Superior quickshifter, too.
Is this you being butthurt or based on an objective analysis? I can hear some hurt butts, pal.
@@psyclone63 what, you mean the sound? Because the power doesn't engage at all. Dank wheelie was disappointed. After all, he full throttled it from 60mph in 4th gear and it took 3 seconds to get to 70 and 8 seconds to get to 80. And i just don't know about superior quickshifter. Personally, i don't recall any complaints about aprilia's qs. Better built? You mean more reliable? I'll let kawasaki have that but i don't look to sports bikes for practicality and reliability. I look to sports bikes for power and performance. And i believe the aprilia is more powerful, plus that torque will pull it out of corners on a track and past semis on a highway. Or maybe you mean build quality and fit and finish. I'm sure the fit and finish of the zx4 is pretty nice. Yeah, probably better than an rs660. I just think the zx4 is a bit too expensive for the torque. You can get better bikes for the price. If it was 2 grand cheaper, it would be awesome. Or at least $1,500 cheaper
@@psyclone63 Yep, you're not wrong about that.
Av the 40th anniversary one great bike had gxsr600 before that
Beautiful looking all the same
🏴 love from Scotland 🏴
man i really want/need one but not in this lifetime I guess but damn oneday, oneday I am going to
Does this bike come with the Flash-to-pass feature?
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can't wait for the European version as it has the extra hp. the 80hp put it in competition Ower to weight wise with a R7 That blows my mind
I think with the US model you just need a tune to get the same hp as the European model.
Could this kill liter bikes for street use(for a commuter bike and also fun bike)? it's way cheaper to own, insure and maintain, more usable gearing and power for smaller roads. Being able to up shit more and hearing the beautiful sound. This bike made liter bikes feel like they belong only on the track.
Great video, thank you!! Would you buy this or a pre-owned R6 in the same price range ($11k out the door). I just bought a Ninja 1000 SX and love it. I’m really torn between this bike and an R6. What are your thoughts???
It solely depends on what you're looking to do. An R6 is a great all around bike, but especially on the track. If you're buying a used one, there's a lot to take into consideration as opposed to purchasing a brand new bike. If you want a bike that can handle everyday riding and rip on the track without destroying your back, the ZX-4R(R) may be a good option for you. If you want something a little more aggressive in styling and power, the R6 is a great choice.
And the most impressive thing about this, is that the ZX4RR is just 7km/h slower than the Honda CBR650.
Man, it's such a hard decision between the Ninja 500 or the ZX4RR.
Forget the sound and other aesthetic points. The traction control, quick shifter, ability to boost like 30 HP with a tune and exhaust.. the ZX4RR might be the ultimate starter bike.
Great video. Is this more or less leaned over than the Zx-6R?
I'm not sure I fully understand what you're asking. Are you referring to the ground clearance when leaned over or how far it's leaned over on the kickstand?
@@TSTindustries hey, sorry I meant rider position when sitting on the bike. Do you find the position more aggressive on the 4RR? About to check both the 23 4RR and the 24 ZX-6 here in MD but test rides are not allowed unfortunately
@@TSTindustries was able to sit on the 4RR today, man what a comfortable bike compared to the ZX-6. I like them both and their price point is so similar, but I think I might end up with the 4RR, so cool!
Installs a full system exhaust it would sound a lot better
For the money I would rather get the ZX6R. Especially if dealers are charging over MSRP for the 400RR.
Does anyone know why the zx4rr is 2 inches wider than the zx6r? It seems like a big difference
big chaseontwowheels vibes
A moto chegou no mercado brasileiro com preço pouco atrativo, mais cara do que à CBR650R e próxima ao preço de uma Zx6r, uma pena porque parece ser uma moto incrível mas fui de Zx6r. Acho engraçado como vocês pilotam, parar atrás de um carro no farol e não pegar corredor no Brasil é algo impensável kkkk
I wouldn't be upset if a zx4 passed me (in the corners at least lol) on the track if i'm on an r7 or rs660. We paid about the same price, after all. My guess is he's a better rider than me. I already know there are better riders than me. If we swapped bikes he'd probably still pass me.
I have one question sir what's your height ?
link for the motor jacket u are wearing? exact model name pls :D
Looks like the TG-P Plus Alpinestars jacket. Should be able to find it by searching that.
@@vagabondsoldier4353 thx
Great review and video. I gave it a like... But man, everybody with the constant hand gestures when they talk. That is such a bad habit to be in, especially on a motorcycle. You have to constantly let go of the grip so you can wiggle your hand around because you're talking lol. It looks so strange to me. I hardly ever use hand gestures when I talk. I wonder how many accidents have been caused by people because of this? Safe travels man.
I've heard talk that the power output would be neutered in North America in order to meet with sound regulations (per Revzilla's S07E03 Highside Lowside). Can you confirm this?
It’s true, needs ecu flash to get past the 55hp or so as it comes
This bike will be available in europe??
You would have to check your local dealerships but we believe so.
Can I ride this bike in the Netherlands with my a2 license
mile meter?
what's the gp style shifting that you mentioned?
one up, 5 down
As mentioned in another comment, 1 up and 5 down.
@@TSTindustries interesting, and that would work with the quickshifter?
@@veganjoy Yes but you would need to flash your ECU to enable the logic.
@@TSTindustries US/canada folks would wanna do that anyways right
Is it possible to have one on usa 🇺🇸?
I don't understand your question... We're in the USA.
I want one. For $8k!
Agreed that would be the more reasonable price.
I mean cool and all, but for the price Id rather get 600. 77hp will get boring quite quick...
For that price you're in RS 660 territory and that becomes a much harder choice regardless if your intent is street or track.
RS is a another league but they are not reliable. First recall, whole engine swap.
A lot of guys on reddit that own or have owned the RS 660 talk about their poor experiences with Aprilla. From complete engine failure, electrical shortages to sqeaking breaks. Not too mention how expensive it is to maintain that bike.
As I understand there is just a limited production line.
Anyone know if they will put this motor in a naked chassis?
That would be a silly move, but who knows.
@@TSTindustries dissagree, some people prefer the ergos of a naked bike, with 4 cylinder power.
Would you recommend this bike as a first sport bike?
I've ridden dualsports for years, and narrowed down my first sport bike to either the ninja 400 or the ZX-4RR.
Looks like the riding position is more upright, toward the Ninja 400 than Supersport bikes.
Riding position looks very comfortable, not backbreaking.
If you don’t mind paying $10000+ it’s alright. I just got mine yesterday as my first bike.
@@strumfury3210
Congrats my friend.
First sport bike or first motorcycle altogether?
How do you find the riding position?
Narrow down my choice to either the ninja 400 or the Ninja ZX-4RR.
I have the cash for either one.
I really like the high-revving engine sound and exhaust note of an inline 4.
That screaming sound makes it like you're riding very fast, but in reality you're still not breaking the law too badly.
If you're gonna be commuting the ninja 400 is gonna be more comfortable and more usable torque, and the zx4rr, while very comfortable for a supersport, it's still a supersport lol
@@crazycamkalani
Very true.👍👍
@@strumfury3210 this is not a smart thing to do. A ZX4RR is not a first bike. It is not a parallel for the Ninja 400. You are likely to hurt yourself.
Thoughts on suspension? Any adjustments available? I’m half way through the video so it may get answered later, but I don’t want to forget the question. Weight? For a 400 I would want a sub 400 pound bike, but specifically how that weight is balanced if it is over 400 is what I am looking for. My 750 is poorly balanced and feels like it’s 460 pounds lol. My buddy has a cbr600 which is within a few pounds and that bike is balanced so well it almost feels like I’m pushing my R3 around (at a stand still, not while moving). Thoughts on the quickshifter and blipper? I’m personally not a fan of 1 piece res/master but oh well.
Edit: are the fork tubes 50mm?
its 414 pounds
the exhaust is very heavy. if you get a full system your removing tons of weight
@@kushpaladin yeah, I knew the figures were over the 400 mark.
My gsxr750 weighs 420ish stock, which is exactly why didn’t want the 25R (also over 400 pounds) and was hesitant with this one.
For me it would be almost like riding a zx6r in lower power mode.
My R3 is now at 320 pounds and alot of folks have gotten this bike to sub 300. I have a thing for ultralight weight bikes.
@@Exonic_ most exhausts will shave 8-12 pounds for the lighter weight bikes and as much as 35-40ish for the really big bikes (Hayabusa for example). I know how it goes lol.
@@Exonic_ have you pulled yours off the 4RR and weighed it? That would be valuable info for the community. That’s the first thing I did as soon as I installed the Spark Italy full exhaust on my R3.
How tall are you? Your seating position looks comfortable.
5'8" if I stretch in the morning 😅
@@TSTindustries would you say its comfortable on your arms/wrist in heavy traffic?
@@jamalwilliams1009 Absolutely. Because I feel more “in” the bike instead of “on” it, it didn’t strain me at all during any rides just yet. I think with some tank grips you can extend your riding time even a bit more without much more strain.
Would you say it’s good for someone learning to ride? A.K.A a first bike??
The best riders i know, and know of, started on smaller and less capable machines, then learned to max out the performance from each stepping stone bike. When a rider goes through a progression like that they possess superior skill, discipline, and ability to learn/adapt.
Great review of the new Kawasaki. The ergos look pretty good. What is the seat to peg distance? Thanks
It depends on where on the seat you're measuring from but let's say it's roughly 16.5 inches from seat to stock rearset pegs.
@@TSTindustries Thanks for taking this measurement. My Hayabusa had roughly the same seat to peg distance and I ended up lowering the pegs a bit to give me more legroom. Same with my Tuono so I'm sure I would need to do the same if I got this one. Cheers
They should have honestly had stainless brake lines.
does the bike feel wide? or is it noticeably more slim than a zx6r?
It doesn’t feel abnormally wide but it does feel wider than the previously known Ninja 400. It’s about 2 inches wider than the ZX6R
No, the zx4rr and zx6r feel almost identical! The seat height feels the same, the zx4rr has slightly higher clip-ons. The zx4rr has a better kickstand imo. I got the opportunity to sit on them both side by side!
Could you just add a riser or higher clip on’s to the zx6r to make it more comfortable? Can’t decide between this and zx6r never had a motor under 600cc but i want an inline 4 with a decent riding position, sold my 959 panigale because it was painful to ride.
@@abyb1923 so i bought a zx4rr and I've already done 400km trips. Its definitely fine for me but im also pretty small (170cm) so it might be very different for a taller person
Sir Cane i purchase from India
If the dealer network in India offers the 400 then yes. But I suspect that whay you have there is the 25R instead of the 4.
If it was like $1000 less, it would be perfect. I am negotiating with a dealer for a deal on it, so lets see.
$8,800Au on Road i think its ok priced
Way too pricey
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Good video!
consultation. How much is the weekly gasoline consumption?
That depends on how much you ride, how fast you ride, and your acceleration demands. There is no way to approximate the value you are asking for with any degree of precision.
@@TSTindustries Do you recommend it for daily use?
What is so special about this compared to similarly priced Honda CBR650R which IMHO is a much better bike?
The CBR650R, in my opinion, is a very tame bike that's not anything like its slightly smaller sibling the CBR600RR. This ZX4RR would be comparable to the CBR600RR in terms of power delivery and overall feel. It's very "supersport" inspired whereas the 650R feels more like a bike trying to be a supersport. Additionally, no quickshifter, no riding modes, no laptimer, and no adjustable rear shock - just to name a few things the CBR650R doesn't have.
@@TSTindustries Thank you for detail reply. I get it for track maybe but in city, commuting, twisties - does the 650R not have better acceleration and decent electronics already? Note we don't have 600RR here in Ireland.
I have a feeling this bike is last hurrah of nostalgia of high revving, flashy looking, 4 cylinder machines. I'd like to test ride one but where I am there's a queue till next year to buy never mind to try.
My God dude. Could have made that stoplight tour on a moped. Ridiculous.
Welcome to Florida, home of straight highways and "curvy roads" with stop lights.
For me CBR650R have better value per performance
Doesn’t seem much faster than Ninja 400. I’m sure top end has more potential… but eh. Putting race clip ons on would require modifying the plastics. Most of these reviewers are hucking for the brand or just not that good at what they’re doing.
This review was done with the bike as "stock" as possible outside of cosmetic changes. Once we flashed the ECU, we saw a 12hp increase in power. Saying this bike isn't much faster than a Ninja 400 is comparable to saying the R6 isn't faster than the R7.
The best bike would be a ZX-650R for the roads since the 600’s market is on decline pretty much everywhere. They should make a competitor to the CBR650R, but make it more like a ZX sporty and aggressive look without a freakin’ ugly banana seat. 110hp with 50in/lb would be legit. Keep the same bike, same ergonomics, but fit a 650cc engine in there, so you get more torque to pass cars with ease. I love the ZX-4RR tho and hope to get my hands on one here in Montreal, Canada. Supersports license plates are 2000$ compared to under 400cc that are 430$ a year and we only get about 5 months of warm weather.
That bike you're describing sounds like a ZX-6R. The CBR650R is an inline 4 bike, similar to the ZX-6R, but not as tuned for power. The ZX-6R is 127hp at 52ft/lbs of torque. An inline-4 650CC from Kawasaki wouldn't fit in as they have the Ninja 650 / Z650 (parallel twin) and the ZX-6R (inline-4).
@@TSTindustries I know, right ? 26 in/lb of torque is weak tho and inline 4 is way to go for true sport bikes. The Ninja 650 to me is an effective bike, but the sound of parallel twin kills the sport aspect of it.
Could you put aftermarket risers or clip ons to raise the height of the bars on the zx6r?
Mic audio quality is not good
Any tips for recording clear in-helmet audio at 70mph?
-RA
It’s fun till a r6 or zx6r come leave ya in the dust
and an R1 and ZX-10R will smoke an R6/Zx6R
Best bang for your buck? That's delusional fan boy verbiage... good bike yes, but absolutely the furthest thing away from best bang for you bucks lolol
Race Ready Bike Nice (RR)😅
I wouldn't wexactly call this race ready but close enough that with a little work, and a few parts it can be.
Damn y'all are small people
So why the hell should I buy this over a r7..... An for 12k hell nah
I am a big fan kawasaki bick 😢