These videos keep getting better and better. I called Aaron and he set me up with a 124 S&S kit for my FXFB with new intake manifold and injectors. Can’t wait to get it on a dyno. You guys are awesome
@@MoonshineHarley yea with what I had sent to me( still deployed) the numbers and the graph on how much better and steady the pulls are through the RPM range is just crazy. Fueling makes some great products and bc of your cam shootout is why I chose the 465 for this build. Thanks guys, keep up the good work and hope to get a ride down when I'm stateside again.
Wondering why cams like this one and the zippers 472 are not recommended for the 107 due to the specs but when compared to an s&s 475 they still have earlier intake close, later exhaust opening and far less over lap and the 475 seems to be the go to cam everywhere and never hear anyone say it shouldnt be on a 107. My dealer wanted to go with the 475 on my 107, I went with something else and from all reports I'm glad I did.
Jarrod Wilson We only pair 475 cams or larger with high compression setups. The S&S 465 would be a much better choice if you are pairing it with a stock compression engine. The 475 will come on too late with stock compression and the 465 will be really snappy with stock compression.
@@MoonshineHarley I went with an Andrew's 460 because I wanted good mileage with the stock street bob tank and good part throttle response in the corners, I get better economy now than the dealers stage 1(it was running rich). I'd say 9/10 people I've spoken to let the dealer put the 475 in their 107's. One guy explained it was like a 2 stroke, does nothing good until 3000rpm. Most want the 475 because of the lumpy idle then wonder why the fuel economy is in the toilet. This is why some dealers are better than others, keep up the good work!
I thought it would get more. I have a stock 2020 117 CVO top end from the cam up on my 2018 Fatbob. It has a D&D two to one exhaust, SE air intake. It made 128TQ and 126HP last month when I got it on the dyno. Been wondering what cam might be worth it but now I'm not sure a new cam will be worth it.
TTG Atlanta Mother Chapter MC it allows more pressure to escape the engine case which reduces pressure in the bottom end. It’ll help piston ring seal along with some oiling benefits.
Mike, please give me your thoughts on running straight 50 weight oil in a 128 M8. I'm in Cali and the weather has been in the mid 90's. I seen this in the Harley manual and wanted your opinion. You guys are the truth keep up the Fantastic work. *Note I'm currently running 20/ 50
Can you go into detail about your Horsepower PSC extended service plan in a video? Example, if I am from Arizona and have you guys do an engine build for me, do I have to ship it back to your dealership for repair if something goes wrong or if I am touring in South Dakota and have an issue, can the nearest Harley dealership diagnose the issue, fix it and your PSC cover the applicable repairs?
MojoMan Murph it valid at any Harley-Davidson dealership in the USA for repairs. If you have more questions please call the shop and ask for Jamie 615-274-4170
Donald DuncanYes! You’ll see very similar numbers on a 114. We would run the Feuling 465 on a 107 M8. The 472 is the cam we go to for 114 or larger displacement with stock compression.
2020 SGS. I’ll be doing Cams, exhaust and intake over the winter. I can’t easily get to a dyno tuner. What auto tuner would you suggest? I’ve been doing research. I’m looking at the thunder max wave tune. Any help is appreciated
what would the results be with this cam on an M8 107 twin cooled with a Stage 3, D&D billet cat 2:1 w/ vortex baffle, TTS tuner, and SE Ventilator AC? Which cam would be the very best for that particular set up? Two up weight with a racing style type rider ?
I just got a new fxdr has a d&d 2in1 bobcat exhaust, SE heavy breather, what would be your suggestions for engine/parts upgrades and the order you would do them, for performance and reliability, Thank you x
Did you keep the stock headers and pipes , with the screaming eagle tuner on this build ? I want to use the fueling 472 cam maybe D&D headers 🤔 what do you think ???
No goes the warranty. I had my bike done by them and you still have your warranty . Just deal with Moonshine and they will rake care if you . I have my two year manufacturing warranty and they warranty the work done . Don’t be upset cuz your bikes stock . No need to be a Karen
Was this a real stock cvo.it didn’t have a stage 3 or anything.i have a 2019 I’m looking to have y’all do.but thinking about the zippers 468 or 472.and info will help
lwhiteb100 It only recurved the parts mentioned in the video which was the cam job and exhaust. If you have the 117 we would do the Feuling 472. It Rips!!!
Robert Millhouse not if you purchase our Horsepower PSC which covers our builds and it’ll add double coverage during your factory warranty period. If Harley’s warranty denies a claim our PSC will pick it up. We have options for up to 5 years of coverage. Only available at Moonshine H-D. If you need more info or would like to purchase please send us an email to horsepower@moonshineharley.com
Alan not if you purchase our Horsepower PSC which covers our builds and it’ll add double coverage during your factory warranty period. If Harley’s warranty denies a claim our PSC will pick it up. We have option for up to 5 years of coverage. Only available at Moonshine H-D. If you need more info or would like to purchase please send us an email to horsepower@moonshineharley.com
@@travishatcher1333 Yes, but we would now recommend the MHP-485 camshaft as it’ll make more early torque and total HP. You can purchase it at shop.moonshineharley.com
@@MoonshineHarley I did see that video and was pretty much an attention getter with those torque numbers and power band. I want to do the build myself, do yall do technical questions over the phone on parts, orders, or installs? If so I'll contact soon as possible.
Was the tune done with Harley tuner or with an aftermarket like Powervision? The engine on my 19 CVO Limited took a dump and my Harley store is up grading the oil pump, cam plate, lifters and tapper covers. They won’t upgrade the cam from a Harley Torque cam to the Fueling 472 cuz it’s not “EPA COMPLIANT”. So I’m having someone else do that. Just want to know if I need to upgrade the springs. My bike currently has a powervision tune in it for the Harley torque cam.
How do I get ahold of you guys for questions on a build i'm doing? end goal when I race my buddys i'd like to leave them in the dust, currently have a 17SG tab slip ons, DK636v a/c with EBS set up plan on doing an RS468 and fullsac header then eventually get to the 124" big bore any recommendations on changing anything up for better gains? good way to go? just looking for some opinions from you guys sense you have tested all kinds of different combos
Im surprised the numbers are not that much better than the 114 motor with a S&S 465 cam. ?? Im thinking my 114 Heritage with the 465 cam is gonna blow doors on that 40k +, 117. Ha
Yes. We would now recommend the MHP-485 cam for your setup. For more info please contact the Horsepower Team Nick - Aaron - Jamie - Mike V Phone: 615-274-4170 Email: horsepower@moonshineharley.com ***If you email us please provide a good contact phone number for you.
Hey Guys Love your show. Definitely the best info I can find on the feuling and s&s cam chest kit. In the comments on both your videos you recommend both the 472 reaper cam chest and also the s&s 475c chest. I have a 20' Road glide special 114. I ride between 2k-5500 rpms. I want the bike to pull hard all the time. Occasionally my wife will ride with me and I still want all the power lol. I cant decided between the fueling 472 chest or s&s 475 reaper. I will be running a custom tune, deleted cats, rinehart slip ons and a Trask high flow intake. I respect your guys opinion do you have a recommendation on one over the other? One option I was given was the feuling 472 cam and s&s everything else? Thanks for your time. Again love the videos. Thanks
@@AeroSS87 I can't tell any difference in build quality? But the dyno charts tell me that S&S is the go-to (torque monster) unless you often find yourself needing more power over 4500rpm.
@@AeroSS87 Also quality-wise the dyno curves for S&S are the smoothest I've seen. Feuling's look great too but again hard to make them the first pick unless HP is your priority, IMO.
Ugh 😑 those numbers are kinda weak! Seeing as I just watched you guys past videos on cam shootout, & they had lots of cams & exhaust combos beating these numbers without the help of the internals.
These videos keep getting better and better. I called Aaron and he set me up with a 124 S&S kit for my FXFB with new intake manifold and injectors. Can’t wait to get it on a dyno. You guys are awesome
Joshua Parker Thanks for trusting us with you horsepower needs! STOCK MOTORS SUCK!!!
How did the bike run with the upgrades
Loved the "Yan can cook so can you" reference
Great job guys! They keep getting better and better
Thanks for this Moonshine and for replying to the comments also
Sweet. Just had Reaper 465 put into my 2017 Streetglide and wow, sounds awesome!
Jason Breedlove the Reaper 465 is a great choice.
@@MoonshineHarley yea with what I had sent to me( still deployed) the numbers and the graph on how much better and steady the pulls are through the RPM range is just crazy. Fueling makes some great products and bc of your cam shootout is why I chose the 465 for this build. Thanks guys, keep up the good work and hope to get a ride down when I'm stateside again.
Jason Breedlove it’s a solid go to for us! glade you like it. STOCK MOTORS SUCK.
Should do a video on this cam compare to zippers RS 472
Incredible work as always.
HK-47 Meatnbag Thanks!
Once in a month a video. Now that's a commitment
Slight Overdoze one day we plan on doing one a week. Thanks for watching.
@@MoonshineHarley just keep it creepy
Love your vids. How do you guys only have 12.9K subs? Crazy!
Mark Volchko Thanks!
Lol @ yan can cook reference. Me and my dad loved that show.
One helluva upgrade there. Huge gains. Kick-ass video guys. 🤘
ROTF…you guys have fun while you work.
Considering doing this to a 117, but with a 508cam. Thoughts?
Wondering why cams like this one and the zippers 472 are not recommended for the 107 due to the specs but when compared to an s&s 475 they still have earlier intake close, later exhaust opening and far less over lap and the 475 seems to be the go to cam everywhere and never hear anyone say it shouldnt be on a 107. My dealer wanted to go with the 475 on my 107, I went with something else and from all reports I'm glad I did.
Jarrod Wilson We only pair 475 cams or larger with high compression setups. The S&S 465 would be a much better choice if you are pairing it with a stock compression engine. The 475 will come on too late with stock compression and the 465 will be really snappy with stock compression.
@@MoonshineHarley I went with an Andrew's 460 because I wanted good mileage with the stock street bob tank and good part throttle response in the corners, I get better economy now than the dealers stage 1(it was running rich). I'd say 9/10 people I've spoken to let the dealer put the 475 in their 107's. One guy explained it was like a 2 stroke, does nothing good until 3000rpm. Most want the 475 because of the lumpy idle then wonder why the fuel economy is in the toilet. This is why some dealers are better than others, keep up the good work!
@@MoonshineHarley would you confirm this is true with a 114ci also besides the 107ci??
I thought it would get more. I have a stock 2020 117 CVO top end from the cam up on my 2018 Fatbob. It has a D&D two to one exhaust, SE air intake. It made 128TQ and 126HP last month when I got it on the dyno. Been wondering what cam might be worth it but now I'm not sure a new cam will be worth it.
Pretty damn nice job
I have a 21 ultra 114”and I’m getting a fueling reaper 472 installed in mine in about a week
How do you like the cam? any numbers? I am getting 122 with 472 on the 30th
@@curtisg5117 love it. Made 119hp and 129trq
@@CodyMcDonald89 Thanks for the reply have a great summer
A modest dyno, unlike all the ridiculous high dynos around
HUTProductionsuk And it’s in SAE smoothing. Thanks for the positive feed back.
Feuling Parts Vented Oil Dip Stick is it good for the Harley M8?
TTG Atlanta Mother Chapter MC it allows more pressure to escape the engine case which reduces pressure in the bottom end. It’ll help piston ring seal along with some oiling benefits.
Priceless....
I want to put these on my 2019, but it's still under warranty. This will void the warranty, right?
Mike, please give me your thoughts on running straight 50 weight oil in a 128 M8. I'm in Cali and the weather has been in the mid 90's. I seen this in the Harley manual and wanted your opinion. You guys are the truth keep up the Fantastic work.
*Note I'm currently running 20/ 50
I currently run the Woods 22XE in my 22 SGS. Is this cam worth the time and cost to upgrade/try vs my 22XE?
What numbers did y'all get out of this build?
MVO is awesome!
does this pump have to updated seal on rear?or does it need it thanks
How much, is that btr then the s&s 475 kit?
I was about to buy a whole 128 to hear from you until I got to talk to one of your assistance and rush me off the phone
Can you go into detail about your Horsepower PSC extended service plan in a video? Example, if I am from Arizona and have you guys do an engine build for me, do I have to ship it back to your dealership for repair if something goes wrong or if I am touring in South Dakota and have an issue, can the nearest Harley dealership diagnose the issue, fix it and your PSC cover the applicable repairs?
MojoMan Murph it valid at any Harley-Davidson dealership in the USA for repairs. If you have more questions please call the shop and ask for Jamie 615-274-4170
great video can that be done with the 114 whats the tq
Donald DuncanYes! You’ll see very similar numbers on a 114. We would run the Feuling 465 on a 107 M8. The 472 is the cam we go to for 114 or larger displacement with stock compression.
Cool to know. I have a 114 stage IV in my 2017 RG, was thinking a Zippers cam but may just go this route.
Would you need to upgrade the clutch?
2020 SGS. I’ll be doing Cams, exhaust and intake over the winter. I can’t easily get to a dyno tuner. What auto tuner would you suggest? I’ve been doing research. I’m looking at the thunder max wave tune. Any help is appreciated
what would the results be with this cam on an M8 107 twin cooled with a Stage 3, D&D billet cat 2:1 w/ vortex baffle, TTS tuner, and SE Ventilator AC? Which cam would be the very best for that particular set up? Two up weight with a racing style type rider ?
I bought a 2020 roguelite special what would be the best cam and exhaust setup for that bike
I just got a new fxdr has a d&d 2in1 bobcat exhaust, SE heavy breather, what would be your suggestions for engine/parts upgrades and the order you would do them, for performance and reliability, Thank you x
YOUR REALITY GURU please call the shop and ask for Aaron or Jamie 615-274-4170. Or send them an email at horsepower@moonshineharley.com
Do you recommending changing the oil pump when installing cams?
I see y’all using different manufacturers each build.. any preference of cam plate for a twin cam 103? S&S or fueling?
Did you compare it to 30/30 or 3/4 from George at star racing ?
I agree with you fueling is good stuff and living in California causes cancer
Would you recommend a 472 in a 114 ? DBX 45 Rinehart Cat free. Don't care to go 120 MPH, but want to get there very quick.
Yes but the Feuling 465 has more bottom and the 472 has more hp. Take your pick.
Did you keep the stock headers and pipes , with the screaming eagle tuner on this build ? I want to use the fueling 472 cam maybe D&D headers 🤔 what do you think ???
...and there goes the Warranty!!!
No goes the warranty. I had my bike done by them and you still have your warranty . Just deal with Moonshine and they will rake care if you . I have my two year manufacturing warranty and they warranty the work done . Don’t be upset cuz your bikes stock . No need to be a Karen
Hah got em
Was this a real stock cvo.it didn’t have a stage 3 or anything.i have a 2019 I’m looking to have y’all do.but thinking about the zippers 468 or 472.and info will help
lwhiteb100 It only recurved the parts mentioned in the video which was the cam job and exhaust. If you have the 117 we would do the Feuling 472. It Rips!!!
Will getting this on my 2019 Mako Shark void my warranty??
YES!
Robert Millhouse not if you purchase our Horsepower PSC which covers our builds and it’ll add double coverage
during your factory warranty period. If Harley’s warranty denies a claim our PSC will pick it up. We have options for up to 5 years of coverage. Only available at Moonshine H-D. If you need more info or would like to purchase please send us an email to horsepower@moonshineharley.com
Alan not if you purchase our Horsepower PSC which covers our builds and it’ll add double coverage during your factory warranty period. If Harley’s warranty denies a claim our PSC will pick it up. We have option for up to 5 years of coverage. Only available at Moonshine H-D. If you need more info or would like to purchase please send us an email to horsepower@moonshineharley.com
Would this cam retain good low end torque on a low rider 107
@@travishatcher1333 Yes, but we would now recommend the MHP-485 camshaft as it’ll make more early torque and total HP. You can purchase it at shop.moonshineharley.com
You should call Her!
Any cams for a M8 107
Which tuner was used?
Now what can we expect from a high compression 117 with high flow fuel injectors and hpi throttle body?
Eric Martinez at that point we’d just build a 128 instead of the 117. Same money and parts for the most part.
@@MoonshineHarley I actually did not think of that. Still want to do a 117 on my 2020 lowrider s. Or go for broke on a 128 👍decisions decisions.
Eric Martinez 128 all day. Did you see our video on the Low Rider S 128 build?
@@MoonshineHarley I did see that video and was pretty much an attention getter with those torque numbers and power band. I want to do the build myself, do yall do technical questions over the phone on parts, orders, or installs? If so I'll contact soon as possible.
What are pros and cons of allowing the bearing to ride in parent material versus a brass bushing???
I thought stock 117 was 124tq? I have a ‘21 CVO
Was the tune done with Harley tuner or with an aftermarket like Powervision? The engine on my 19 CVO Limited took a dump and my Harley store is up grading the oil pump, cam plate, lifters and tapper covers. They won’t upgrade the cam from a Harley Torque cam to the Fueling 472 cuz it’s not “EPA COMPLIANT”. So I’m having someone else do that. Just want to know if I need to upgrade the springs. My bike currently has a powervision tune in it for the Harley torque cam.
You would need to have it Dyno tuned for best result.
@@MoonshineHarley yes, the guy putting in the new cam would dyno it too. Was your bike tuned with the Harley tuner?
@@stevenbutner4218 yes harley tuner or they would not be able to sell with warranty
How about 114 FLHTK 2020.
How do I get ahold of you guys for questions on a build i'm doing? end goal when I race my buddys i'd like to leave them in the dust, currently have a 17SG tab slip ons, DK636v a/c with EBS set up plan on doing an RS468 and fullsac header then eventually get to the 124" big bore any recommendations on changing anything up for better gains? good way to go? just looking for some opinions from you guys sense you have tested all kinds of different combos
Tberg725 shoot me an email with you phone number horsepower@moonshineharley.com
I just got a 2021 road glide cvo and would love to put this on mine. Would this void factory warranty and What’s the price of this?
Anything done outside of hd voids it and I believe any after market part voids the warranty as well
I cant unhear Rick, from Rick and Morty hahaha
Im surprised the numbers are not that much better than the 114 motor with a S&S 465 cam. ?? Im thinking my 114 Heritage with the 465 cam is gonna blow doors on that 40k +, 117. Ha
Moriela Geiger both cams are great. Your Heritage has a big weight advantage!
So Reaper 465 or 472 for a 114" CVO Limited? Has Rinehart true duals and HD ventilator.
Chris White if you are riding two up more than by yourself we’d say go with the 465 Reaper cam.
Will it work in the 114
Yes. We would now recommend the MHP-485 cam for your setup. For more info please contact the
Horsepower Team
Nick - Aaron - Jamie - Mike V
Phone: 615-274-4170
Email: horsepower@moonshineharley.com
***If you email us please provide a good contact phone number for you.
Hey Guys Love your show. Definitely the best info I can find on the feuling and s&s cam chest kit. In the comments on both your videos you recommend both the 472 reaper cam chest and also the s&s 475c chest. I have a 20' Road glide special 114. I ride between 2k-5500 rpms. I want the bike to pull hard all the time. Occasionally my wife will ride with me and I still want all the power lol. I cant decided between the fueling 472 chest or s&s 475 reaper. I will be running a custom tune, deleted cats, rinehart slip ons and a Trask high flow intake. I respect your guys opinion do you have a recommendation on one over the other? One option I was given was the feuling 472 cam and s&s everything else? Thanks for your time. Again love the videos. Thanks
Seems nobody is acknowledging the comments. I'm just a rando on TH-cam but I say the Feuling 472. Much nicer quality in my opinion.
@@AeroSS87 I can't tell any difference in build quality? But the dyno charts tell me that S&S is the go-to (torque monster) unless you often find yourself needing more power over 4500rpm.
@@AeroSS87 Also quality-wise the dyno curves for S&S are the smoothest I've seen. Feuling's look great too but again hard to make them the first pick unless HP is your priority, IMO.
Haha. You said lube tube ! .
Another great video! The comment section will have a lot of lube too. lol!
Ugh 😑 those numbers are kinda weak! Seeing as I just watched you guys past videos on cam shootout, & they had lots of cams & exhaust combos beating these numbers without the help of the internals.
do more fucking videos
Why the lameo music