I just tossed my thrashin supply exhaust cause the cheep metal they have used in the stainless polished steel can’t take the heat and it’s all spotted went with bassani and they are the one who bends there pipes for them again the AR chamber did nothing in the dyno room
@BLOCKHEAD I ordered a D&D Bobcat in chrome with the carbon fiber wrapped muffler for my 2022 Low Rider S. They told me it would take 12-14 weeks and I received it in 2 weeks. Jennifer was great to work with. The exhaust tone is incredible and looks awesome on my bike. I saw improved performance without any other significant work, particularly in the mid to top end. I just wish I could go with the Tune I want but I'm preserving my factory warranty for now.
Oh shit! I was going to say it better be a STAR Racing cam. Those guys REALLY know their stuff! I have an S&S teardrop with the S&S adaptor kit to use the extra, extra large filter on my Sportster and the sheer size of it looks badass alone, and the fact it flows 37% more than the average high flow filter is awesome. Its a real performance oriented air cleaner that's for sure!
Great video as always. We all know price of things changes, but it would be nice to get a ballpark figure on things like a stage one 2 3 and four to give us an idea of what it costs.
@@chazzcapone. that’s one of if not the the weakest points in the drivetrain. The Harley comp is way too hard and brittle and it breaks causing all sorts of problems. The star racing comp along with others like it is made with a more durable material that does not fail under high power.
Man, when you jumped on it, there was no lag or bog in power delivery. Especially for a stage 2. That is a big difference. (Plus, it is some of that "magic horsepower Bae" Chris throws into it... ;) It also sounds very noise... lol
@@BlockheadMoto did this change the sound of the exhaust at all? I have 107 with a stage 2 and it sounds significantly better and louder than my 117 with the same exhaust systems on both bikes.
That's what I'm going to go with a Stage II on my 114 I'm not gonna be racing so I feel like that'll be enough after riding my buddy bike the Stage II turned on nicely
Got a 114 stock m8. Would it be ok to go bigger on the cam than the S&S 475 on stock pistons? Maybe their 540 cam? I know I would have to change valve springs. Also debating on HPI 62mm or go all the way up to the 70mm. Very torn between the multiple options
hope people know what that power dose cause it can put you in a bit of danger. just because you have all that power and talk you need to know how and when to use it. ride your ride and most of all be safe. your situation can change in a heartbeat.
Great video as usual. I am an old guy. Spent so much money modifying cars and motorcycles for more power. Sadly, big horsepower requires big wallets. What I have learned through the years is FORCED INDUCTION, which is expensive, gives most Horsepower for the buck. Future oem bikes will follow the car emissions handbook. From VVT, Forced induction, hybrid to full electric.
Regarding torque, if you thrill is the down low torque, you should never go pass stage 2. Stage 3 and 4 gives more power overall but it's almost as if it takes away from that down low torque and reassigns it up high in the RPM.
Be curious what the 30-30 does on your dyno. Mine did 125HP and 137Tq at peak. 130+ from 2500-4700rpm 2019 fltrxs 114, star 30-30 cam, sawicki full length exhaust, 64mm ported by me, 5.5 inj, stock pushrods, feuling lifters, S&S tear drop +1 filter, Star compensator, tuned on power vision.
What elevation are you at? I'll have a very similar set up but am quite high in regards to elevation. Curious how mine might compare after I get the work done.
I’m looking at the same setup for my 107 I wonder if if the 107-117 difference would matter ? (Science)also the f35a needs valve spring the 30/30 does not, how about is it worth doing valve springs or just buy the 30/30 cam,? Are the valve springs worth it?
It depends on which meets your riding needs. If you want low to mid range torque go with the 30/30 if what he says in the video and what the chart pulls state. If you don’t want to put a bunch of $ parts into the bike I’d go woods 22xe or 30/30. Gixerfoo has a good video about aftermarket cams in 107s they produce just as good results with stage 2
30-30 for sure. You’re gonna feel a nice bump in power from stock. Spending the extra on the springs, injectors, throttle body, etc. to accommodate the F-35A is just like Chris said in the video. Not exactly worth the squeeze. You’re not really gonna be able to tell the difference of 5-10 more hp or torque. At least I can’t after riding my buddies stage 2 with the same mods as mine, his being on a 107 & mine being on a 114. Just make sure you have a good running pipe & air cleaner. Lot of exhausts out there dump all the power.
Have you guys noticed good gains with the 64 mm throttle body and intake on the 114" without heads or porting? i have a '19 SGS with the 122" and looking to get a little more out of it so was curious if you would recommend doing the throttle body, intake and 5.5 injectors? as well do you recommend tuning with a powervision? love the content from a new Canadian follower! cheers
Most BANG for your BUCK way to go. How about lining up Goldzilla vs this Low Rider ST when they are built out and see which one wins. Take them to the drag strip if you can. If ya'll want to see that as well, voice your opinion. All in the name of SCIENCE!!!!
Blockhead.... I'd love to see the difference in hp between the Thrashin and the HPI pipe on this engine.... I wanted the HPI pipe for my 131 but end up with the Thrashin pipe... I'm installing the TTS-250 cam right now.... 🤞🤞
Peak numbers mean jack💩! Look at the area under the curve and when comparing multiple runs incremental area under the curve! This Star cam has an impressive incremental area under the curve...geez look at the torque @6000 rpm, it’s still ~105 lb*ft...still pulling hard at 6000 which wins drag races against your buddies! It just has that little dip early on, maybe it can be tuned out. I speculate that low/mid torque is great due to smaller duration and it maintains top end with the bigger lift and Bryce cams usually open the exhaust valve early to get extra HP up top..... Impressive!
Great video. Would love to see a collab with Thrashin Supply. That would be pretty awesome. Bike sounds great and definitely some well respected numbers. Keep up the great work and glad you guys are ok from Ian. ML&R!
I love thrashin supply parts you should have invite Lance Juan and the Tulane 2 live Crew to the blockhead grand opening! just make sure Lance has a diner to thrash on
I ordered my D&D Billet Cat from Cycle solutions about 4 weeks ago & got it the same week. They might be out of them by now but they had some in stock.
BIKES AND BEARDS 223 horsepower Turbo road king. Most horsepower I have seen out of a Harley street bike. Turbo, MOST BANG FOR THE BUCK especially added to stage 4 131
Why don’t they bypass the speed limiter? Seems like something you’d want to do when you’re tuning a motorcycle. Isn’t the point of test and tuning to get the most out of the provided equipment?
Legit question. What's yalls take on the new harley Warranty hoopla crap? I'm ready for a tune and evil pipe for my 22FXLRS. Even thinking about paint or wrap to a midnight purple
Awesome video!! That is something I’ve been thinking about I saw that you rode the Diablo For the butt Dyno how much difference between the two Is there huge difference or just minor change Please keep up the great work!!
So SE made a 117 big bore at one point. Could you get just the pistons out of that kit and have a high compression 117 with this cam on the cheap? I don’t know if the SE heads and machines so different that it won’t raise compression.
Nice build ! I’d like to see you try out a thunderheader. I’m guessing you could find one easily. I had one on my Harley which I had to sell years ago and really liked it . I mentioned the Thunderheader on another post.
Si ce you mentioned the 2022 st retrofit on the 2020 goldzilla how is that managed BRACKET AND SUPPORT wise I also want to do on my 2020 fxlrs W/131stage 4!‼️
You guys should have something extra at the Grand Opening for Blockhead Members. Just a thought 💭 VIP tour or something 😮 Long time supporter. Preciate you guys ✌🏻
Killer video love that power and pull from 80 mph to 120+ it was fast. Did you guys stick with OEM oil pump and plate. You Guys should start listing the parts you install. Especially when you get good results like this I’d rock those numbers and be happy all year long. During the tune he said he had to back door the ECM to get past a limiter does the Power Vision not have ability to change the limiter setting? I have a TMax on my 08 Dyna and you can set the limiter. My 22 FXLRST I was going with the PV to find out if one’s better or if both are top notch and this PV versus TMax is more of a Miller Taste Great versus Miller Light Less Filling argument.
You guys hooking up with Thrashin would be an awesome thing
I love their mini floorboards but I think a leading edge 159 kit would be sick
I just tossed my thrashin supply exhaust cause the cheep metal they have used in the stainless polished steel can’t take the heat and it’s all spotted went with bassani and they are the one who bends there pipes for them again the AR chamber did nothing in the dyno room
@BLOCKHEAD I ordered a D&D Bobcat in chrome with the carbon fiber wrapped muffler for my 2022 Low Rider S. They told me it would take 12-14 weeks and I received it in 2 weeks. Jennifer was great to work with. The exhaust tone is incredible and looks awesome on my bike. I saw improved performance without any other significant work, particularly in the mid to top end. I just wish I could go with the Tune I want but I'm preserving my factory warranty for now.
18 RG, S&S 124, f35a 572 cam,throttle,springs,injectors, bassani mid,clutch, tuned with 142hp and 148tq absolutely a monster
I've had a Thrashin pipe on my Fat Bob for a couple years now. Solid pipe. I have no complaints.
Oh shit! I was going to say it better be a STAR Racing cam. Those guys REALLY know their stuff! I have an S&S teardrop with the S&S adaptor kit to use the extra, extra large filter on my Sportster and the sheer size of it looks badass alone, and the fact it flows 37% more than the average high flow filter is awesome. Its a real performance oriented air cleaner that's for sure!
Where can I get that adaptor kit o really like this set up
I've bought a few of the thrashin parts over time and always had good results and the build quality is excellent 😎
Definitely! I’ve been running a few of their parts on Goldzilla for awhile as well 🤘🏼
It sounds great! And this stage two build is to me is by far, the way to go. Because, let's be honest and realistic. These are street bikes!
💯
Cammed bikes paired with a good exhaust are just a whole different animal. Nasty sounding even at idle.
Those thrashing pipes r bad ass. So are the other parts, risers, bars, foot controls....that bike would be sick with all thrashing controls guys....
Dude Chris is totally blitzed in this video!!! I love it
got a 114 with a fueling 472 with 6.2 injectors and ss 55 intake pulling 113 hp atw and 122 tq love it
Full Tilt for sure... solid info, appreciate it... hold your head up Chris!
Great video as always. We all know price of things changes, but it would be nice to get a ballpark figure on things like a stage one 2 3 and
four to give us an idea of what it costs.
I like the sound of that cam pipe combo
I’m looking at doing a S&S 465 in my 18 SportGlide this winter. Go time!!!
I just ordered the valve springs, f35a cam, and a compensator all from Star racing last night. I am so excited for this build.
Nice! Great setup for sure
Why the compensator ?
@@chazzcapone. that’s one of if not the the weakest points in the drivetrain. The Harley comp is way too hard and brittle and it breaks causing all sorts of problems. The star racing comp along with others like it is made with a more durable material that does not fail under high power.
What did you end up with?
128hp 127tq@@JakobKaizen
Never heard such infernal jaw-jackin' in all my life and all I wanted to hear was the engine.
Man, when you jumped on it, there was no lag or bog in power delivery. Especially for a stage 2.
That is a big difference.
(Plus, it is some of that "magic horsepower Bae" Chris throws into it... ;)
It also sounds very noise... lol
Huge difference in the before vs after! And what noise? You mean music? lol
@@BlockheadMoto did this change the sound of the exhaust at all? I have 107 with a stage 2 and it sounds significantly better and louder than my 117 with the same exhaust systems on both bikes.
I like my Redshift cam 552 in my Zippers 124. It is a very balanced cam with my build
Happy to see you all are alright and that the workshop is intact 👊
Blockhead team, hope y'all survived Ian and all is well. Another great video, thanks!
Thanks TCB, we’re all good here 👍🏼
That's what I'm going to go with a Stage II on my 114 I'm not gonna be racing so I feel like that'll be enough after riding my buddy bike the Stage II turned on nicely
I’m a fan of Thrashin. Tall rider here and the floorboards and adjustable brake arm are a must.
Also great video. I love Chris’s no bs approach to power numbers
Got a 114 stock m8. Would it be ok to go bigger on the cam than the S&S 475 on stock pistons? Maybe their 540 cam? I know I would have to change valve springs. Also debating on HPI 62mm or go all the way up to the 70mm. Very torn between the multiple options
hope people know what that power dose cause it can put you in a bit of danger. just because you have all that power and talk you need to know how and when to use it. ride your ride and most of all be safe. your situation can change in a heartbeat.
Let’s see what that Cam will do In the 131 !!! I’m looking at all options for my 131.
Star 30/30, Woods 22XE, CR480...all great
Hooray! The Blockheads group is good.
I hope you guys are doing ok with this hurricane going through I'll pray for you and your well being
Great video as usual. I am an old guy. Spent so much money modifying cars and motorcycles for more power. Sadly, big horsepower requires big wallets. What I have learned through the years is FORCED INDUCTION, which is expensive, gives most Horsepower for the buck. Future oem bikes will follow the car emissions handbook. From VVT, Forced induction, hybrid to full electric.
Hmm
Regarding torque, if you thrill is the down low torque, you should never go pass stage 2. Stage 3 and 4 gives more power overall but it's almost as if it takes away from that down low torque and reassigns it up high in the RPM.
Pumped for the ST. Pumped for Godzilla retro fit. And also curious about the cream and teal tins in the background!
Be curious what the 30-30 does on your dyno. Mine did 125HP and 137Tq at peak. 130+ from 2500-4700rpm 2019 fltrxs 114, star 30-30 cam, sawicki full length exhaust, 64mm ported by me, 5.5 inj, stock pushrods, feuling lifters, S&S tear drop +1 filter, Star compensator, tuned on power vision.
What elevation are you at? I'll have a very similar set up but am quite high in regards to elevation. Curious how mine might compare after I get the work done.
@@KurtisReed 135 ASL
I’ll also be going for a 30/30 and a redthunder racing exhaust
@@alaingroenen8505 what chassis ?
@@merlinphumc69 street Bob 107
I'm new to the channel. Great stuff. Does the stock 117 air cleaner not work well with you having to swap it.
I’m looking at the same setup for my 107 I wonder if if the 107-117 difference would matter ? (Science)also the f35a needs valve spring the 30/30 does not, how about is it worth doing valve springs or just buy the 30/30 cam,? Are the valve springs worth it?
It depends on which meets your riding needs. If you want low to mid range torque go with the 30/30 if what he says in the video and what the chart pulls state. If you don’t want to put a bunch of $ parts into the bike I’d go woods 22xe or 30/30. Gixerfoo has a good video about aftermarket cams in 107s they produce just as good results with stage 2
30-30 for sure. You’re gonna feel a nice bump in power from stock. Spending the extra on the springs, injectors, throttle body, etc. to accommodate the F-35A is just like Chris said in the video. Not exactly worth the squeeze. You’re not really gonna be able to tell the difference of 5-10 more hp or torque. At least I can’t after riding my buddies stage 2 with the same mods as mine, his being on a 107 & mine being on a 114. Just make sure you have a good running pipe & air cleaner. Lot of exhausts out there dump all the power.
I'm glad you are ok after Ian.
Thanks Randy!
goldzillas flat black fairing is kickass.
That was awesome. Got a real sense of how quick that bike is. I loved it. Great video.
Please try the Star Racing 30/30 on it!!!!!!
Could I drop this into my stage 1 117 road glide? Only problem would be I have a screaming eagle tuner?
Dang it Block! Now I got to change out my initial plans of a Wood cam for my Road Glide to this one for my winter project.
How is the heat transfer on header???; recently wrapped my bassani header w stock heat shield too to prevent extreme heat on ankles!! Thx,. 20 ultra
Where on earth did you guys find the black A-R thrashin pipe? I can only find stainless but the black looks SOOO good
I am glad you are making motovlogs I miss it when you did this
Have you guys noticed good gains with the 64 mm throttle body and intake on the 114" without heads or porting? i have a '19 SGS with the 122" and looking to get a little more out of it so was curious if you would recommend doing the throttle body, intake and 5.5 injectors? as well do you recommend tuning with a powervision? love the content from a new Canadian follower! cheers
Get a hpi 62mm !
Thanks for the recommendation!!
Hey blockhead I just bought a 2022 Lowrider ST and ideas where is can get aftermarket forward controls? Harley parts on back order for 38 Weeks
Not sure, checkout Drag Specialties
Most BANG for your BUCK way to go. How about lining up Goldzilla vs this Low Rider ST when they are built out and see which one wins. Take them to the drag strip if you can. If ya'll want to see that as well, voice your opinion. All in the name of SCIENCE!!!!
Goldzilla has a 131. It will dust the ST and barely break a sweat.
Godzilla make 150+ horsepower.... not the same league
Yeah as the giveaway ST currently sets, Goldzilla would eat it up. But who knows how the ST build will end 😁
Blockhead.... I'd love to see the difference in hp between the Thrashin and the HPI pipe on this engine.... I wanted the HPI pipe for my 131 but end up with the Thrashin pipe... I'm installing the TTS-250 cam right now.... 🤞🤞
Riding, motor cycle life~ 🌞
If you raise your hand, 👋, it's even more nice to meet you. It's safer. It's more honest.
Always be happy with you.👏👏
My road king special makes 181hp and 165 torque it's fun to ride
Big numbers! What’re you running, all engine or forced induction?
I've waited to do any major engine mods on my ST just for this video!
Peak numbers mean jack💩! Look at the area under the curve and when comparing multiple runs incremental area under the curve! This Star cam has an impressive incremental area under the curve...geez look at the torque @6000 rpm, it’s still ~105 lb*ft...still pulling hard at 6000 which wins drag races against your buddies! It just has that little dip early on, maybe it can be tuned out. I speculate that low/mid torque is great due to smaller duration and it maintains top end with the bigger lift and Bryce cams usually open the exhaust valve early to get extra HP up top..... Impressive!
Exactly the stage 2 I want in my ST. Great video! Was looking at their 485 without there springs but seeing the next step up is cool.
Wonder if they used stock pushrods? they may have mentioned it but I didn't catch it if they did.
Great question. Since the heads were removed to change the springs it was definitely a possibility.
I know this vid was a couple years ago but what cam do you recommend today for the stock Milwaukee 8 114?
Sick build man! Cant wait to see what color you guys do.
The easiest way to see what's inside the reversion chamber of the header pipe is to inspect it with and endoscope.
😂
Looking at different Dyno charts what makes this cam preferable to say a Woods?
One on a twin cam would be spectacular.
Twin cam content incoming 👍🏼
Great video. Would love to see a collab with Thrashin Supply. That would be pretty awesome. Bike sounds great and definitely some well respected numbers. Keep up the great work and glad you guys are ok from Ian. ML&R!
What yall think about the hpi 478 cam? Was thinking going full hpi for my 114 bob
I know it’s a year after but helmet black face was sick bro😂
Idk if maybe I missed em but what about a build on just a road glide special and dual exhaust instead of the 2-1 sporty build
How about doing a video on the new "woods cam" for the 114 please.
I love thrashin supply parts you should have invite Lance Juan and the Tulane 2 live Crew to the blockhead grand opening! just make sure Lance has a diner to thrash on
I ordered my D&D Billet Cat from Cycle solutions about 4 weeks ago & got it the same week. They might be out of them by now but they had some in stock.
BIKES AND BEARDS 223 horsepower Turbo road king. Most horsepower I have seen out of a Harley street bike. Turbo, MOST BANG FOR THE BUCK especially added to stage 4 131
Been missing these videos
would there be air reversion if I did this cam on a bike with Vance and Hines Big Radius exhaust?
Why don’t they bypass the speed limiter? Seems like something you’d want to do when you’re tuning a motorcycle. Isn’t the point of test and tuning to get the most out of the provided equipment?
Inexpensive bore cans are available!!! Your shop should have one!
Daaamn that cam has good gains...that company make twin cam parts that are as good as their m8 parts?! AKA the workin man's bike 🤘🛵
that thing will haul ass with that much power
Legit question. What's yalls take on the new harley Warranty hoopla crap? I'm ready for a tune and evil pipe for my 22FXLRS. Even thinking about paint or wrap to a midnight purple
Harley will flat out reject any tuner that is not EPA compliant. That is still their Ace in the hole for denials.
Badass! Can't wait until it's mine. Don't F it up. I want Chris shirt. Didn't see it in the merch.
Shirt currently not available, will be at the grand opening 👍🏼
Fantastic vid.... Thrashing makes amazing products. That pipe is my favorite I'm saving for it. Hopefully by my birthday in April.
I’ll sell you that exhaust right now
21:29 Smoothly 120mph??!
ITS INSANE
Man I’d love to own this bike…
Awesome video!! That is something I’ve been thinking about I saw that you rode the Diablo For the butt Dyno how much difference between the two Is there huge difference or just minor change Please keep up the great work!!
Huge difference, a cam and a tune make it a totally different bike! 👍🏼
Wow that bike sounds MEAN!
Man, I wish. My bike just got totaled at BBB. Got rear-ended at a red light by another biker! RIP 2022 Road Glide
WHEW!! That looks like an awesome ride! One day, I'll be able to experience rides like this.
Comp cams 246a made 115hp on my 107, the same comp 246a made 126hp on a 114 same dyno same tuner
So dope! Which thrashin’ exhaust did you use? There’s four different options to choose from
So SE made a 117 big bore at one point. Could you get just the pistons out of that kit and have a high compression 117 with this cam on the cheap? I don’t know if the SE heads and machines so different that it won’t raise compression.
What a great quality video. Always appreciate it!
Nice build ! I’d like to see you try out a thunderheader. I’m guessing you could find one easily. I had one on my Harley which I had to sell years ago and really liked it . I mentioned the Thunderheader on another post.
Quickshifter install?
Si ce you mentioned the 2022 st retrofit on the 2020 goldzilla how is that managed BRACKET AND SUPPORT wise I also want to do on my 2020 fxlrs W/131stage 4!‼️
How much would exhaust, cam and tune run from a general price perspective?
1. Block retire them gloves lol 2. That stage 2 with a thrashin exhaust, I wasn't going to enter but I am now🤌🏼
Lol I really do need new gloves 😅 and thanks for the support!
You guys should have something extra at the Grand Opening for Blockhead Members. Just a thought 💭
VIP tour or something 😮
Long time supporter. Preciate you guys ✌🏻
Grand opening will be for everyone. After that, we’ll try and sort some things out for members only 🤘🏼
@@BlockheadMoto awesome. I’m riding down from NJ. Look forward to it!
These Guys Know What The Hell They're Doing... Love This Hog Life Shit 🏍️💨
Killer video love that power and pull from 80 mph to 120+ it was fast. Did you guys stick with OEM oil pump and plate. You Guys should start listing the parts you install. Especially when you get good results like this I’d rock those numbers and be happy all year long. During the tune he said he had to back door the ECM to get past a limiter does the Power Vision not have ability to change the limiter setting? I have a TMax on my 08 Dyna and you can set the limiter. My 22 FXLRST I was going with the PV to find out if one’s better or if both are top notch and this PV versus TMax is more of a Miller Taste Great versus Miller Light Less Filling argument.
That cam sounds awesome
It really does!
Need thrashin and blockhead together would be badass love both channels
@@davidejackson572 I couldn’t agree more !
Im going with this set-up on my new st
I wonder how this compares to a woods 22xe with bassani 2-1. Looking at some numbers and now im split
We’ve seen great results from both setups!
This bike is set up perfect!
What are your feelings on the Bassani 2:1’s?
I'm still kinda new, and forgive me if I missed it. But has there been an update for the blue elephant?
No update yet beyond the reveal, have a few other projects to finish before starting that one, as it’s gonna be a big one 😅
Plenty of power. Cool screw man.