EAchank according to who? There is a difference between holding on to the top as long as you can and intentionally holding someone down. So who did Hulk hold down? It was his idea to put the title on Goldberg.
@@cragerzz if it was hulk or Shawn or anyone else had have said “I won’t lose the belt to him and I can’t lose in my home country” they’d be the prick that won’t do business. But Bret hart gets treated like a victim.
@@troystaunton254 are you kidding? Shawn forfeited the belt TWICE before cause he didn’t want to lose or cause he “lost his smile” but he never gets flak for that. Also ric flair appeared on wwf with the wcw championship belt but he gets no flak for that but Bret refuses to lose BECAUSE HE HAD CREATIVE CONTROL OVER HIS CONTRACT and he gets vilified for it? Plus so many people have said they don’t Believe Bret would have ever went to wcw with the wwf belt including Kevin nash. Bret always gets blamed for the Montreal screw job only because Shawn is vinces ex lover and hhh’s best friend so they will always protect him. Lets talk about all the careers and lives that Shawn ruined back in his days? He’s one of the worst people ever.
Thats G-unit shirt with Flip phone lol Nash is thinking ahead this shoot video will be out there forever so he like let me where my Pow MiA shirt i remember they would where fubu shirts to the ring bc they wanted to stay up to date on what the kids think are cool lol
Ray Lewis Lewis black culture always popped. Muthafuckas never wanted to admit it (Vince etc) but Nash would always give it up. Hell where yall think 4 life (foe life) came from? It was mack 10! Hell Cena's whole gimmick was ripped off from the unit. Spinner belts based off of fif's spinning chain. You can't see me based off of yayo's dance which came from Redd foxx. Props to hall for that shirt though yell
These guys are so "themselves" without any apology. It's easy to hate them. That's what made them great heels. They talk candid and make it sound like they pulled off a heist. I have grown some serious respect for these guys.
Everyone can talk about Nash's lack of (admitted) wrestling ability or Scott's issues and unprofessionalism but their arrival in WCW and the formation and first year of the nWo is THE best wrestling angle of all time. Anyone who says otherwise didn't experience it as it happened and any wrestler who says it isn't is probably jealous. It went to absolute, unwatchable shit but May '96 to December '97 in WCW is still untouchable....and with the state the business is in, that's never going to change.
As someone who has (maybe even currently is)battling addiction, I am so fucking proud of Scott Hall!!!!!!!!!!!! This guy was knocking on deaths door and he completely turned everything around. And you better believe he has some AMAZING stories to tell. I just cant wait to hear them coming from a sober Scott Hall
For real he should not be making no excuse, just say you want to go for the money why you got to be blaming Bret Hart for everything the one he should be blaming is Vince McMahon he's always screwing people in the business.
Difference is kevin and taker was trying to make there story better it make sense and hart was not having it, hbk and nash only complained about wrestlers that could not wrestled or gimmicks that was stupid, like all the occupation gimmicks.
I don’t agree with Kevin here. At that time he had no right in calling a finish for a Bret Hart match. Especially since it would have made Bret seem so weak as the champion. How would it have looked for Bret to have been beat in two paper views in a row? Makes no sense. Bret was the champion. Imagine seeing two paper views in a row where hulk hogan would have been beat in both of them like how he wanted Bret to have been beat? Come on. It’s not an ego thing and I know Bret had an ego just like many other wrestlers back then but in this case I agree with Bret. Now if Vince would have recommended that finish then it’s a different story.
@@jmi84 Bret wasn’t getting beat because if he was then him and Shawn weren’t going to get the ppv, which was already planned. It was for it to look like Kevin got cheated out of the title because he was about to win but Taker got him. So revenge that would make their storyline better.
Thats why it was called the Kliq. I see your point because everyplace I ever worked had their own dick cliques. A group of people who somehow managed to shove their work on everyone else less than a decade in. The same people who constantly snitch on everyone else ( yet call the police if you tell them to meet them in a field across the street after they snitched on you & dicked you up on the job) yet somehow have deluded themselves into believing they should be paid more for doing less. I had the satisfaction of seeing regional management come in & reassign every one of the dick clique to either different departments & shifts. 2 quit in protest. good riddance.
Kevin Nash is very wrong about he should do his finisher on Hart. Because as mention in here. That would make Hart look very weak and what point to see Hart vs HBK 60 minutes?
Them giving Rey his fucking props was awesome. We all know Mysterio payed his damn dues. Thanks Kevin and Scott for all of the memories. You two were apart of some of the most memorable moments of my childhood. Scott, I’m so glad to see you doing so well and I wish you health going into the future. Thanks again fellas!!
I've heard him say this so many times. Imagine this your Bret Hart the reigning WWE Champion. You are heading into Wrestlemania 12 for an Ironman Match with HBK in the main event. Imagine being asked to in back to back PPV's leading to Mania get laid out and left for beaten to build up someone else's program. Gee sounds like a great idea. How selfish of him not to go along with that genius booking. Never been a huge Hitman fan but I have always found it funny that Kevin thinks he's completely right on this.
Yeah I always think this story is BS anyways. But where I do give it props is that if the shoes were reversed Bret would be mad about how Kevin didn't want to put him over. That's always the Bret issue - he never wanted to put people over but thought everybody owed it to him.
Jawanna Man thats because in real life, he is a certified g. hell fight anybody and not a scared coward like some of these wussified wrestlers . dude shot a man in real life. ppl want to hate on the outsiders (not saying you) but i have followed hall since i was a child. i love hbk bc he was one of the best performers, but we was a baby and certified bitch back in the day. hall was the real deal outside the ring
I grew up in middle school watching these guys and it felt real for sure. I remember going to school on Tuesday and everyone was talking about what happened on nitro the night before. True legends, RIP to the bad guy.
Bret was right tho. Why would the champ take a finish on the ppv before mania when he’s going into mania as champ. The taker diesel storyline didnt need bret to take the finish.
Especially since he would go into WM with zero credibility as champion. How could he put Shawn over under those circumstances? The fans would shit all over it. Which they did.
@@mattysquizzato7094Not to mention the month before, Nash screwed Taker over. So Bret as champion had to go into Mania on the back of two fuck finishes? He had every right to stand his ground.
These 2 really are amazing. Scott might be the best ever, life long heel, never wanted the spotlight, constantly upping everyone around him. Only one that even comes close to this is Taker.
These guys have more fun stories than the entire current roster combined. No wonder, Razor was my favorite. I was 8 yr old when I watched my first WWF match, and it was Razor vs someone whom I don't remember, lol. At those times, here in India, matches were telecast like 2-3 weeks after they were taped. Most times ppl rented VCRs to watch WWF Superstars episodes.
More like they got lucky wrestling blew up like crazy right when they were hot and the idiots up top just threw cash thinking that gravy boat would keep grown and then you know the rest.
And to add to this, Scoot Hall is wearing a G-Unit shirt, G-Unit was a collection of hip hop/rap musicians headed up by a rapper called 50 cent. They parlayed their music careers into a clothing line, like many other rappers of the day tried to do.
There was a little buzz kinda getting me back, but that Mysterio bump is what got me back into wrestling. That cold open of the show with these two guys just "invading" another company and destroying people "for real" was great television and I was all in after that.
So -- funny and true story: I was there the night the cops got really called on Monday Nitro; I was working for WDW resort at the (then) MGM Studios theme park. I was a ride host on 'Inside the Magic' -- the mini special effects tour; I walked folks through the ride, did a little gimmick at the beginning and end, and Bob's your dad's brother. But -- that summer, and prior to that -- WCW had been shooting wrestling there, and if you wanted a BIG bump in your paycheck and overtime -- and a backstage look at production being shot on site -- you could sign up to work park security and semi-PA for the producers/AD and whoever else asked you to do stuff. So I worked about half a dozen WCW Worldwides, and the inserts they'd shoot for Nitro and Saturday Night as security (though Turner guys were always there - I guess it was just a requirement of Disney to have WDW people there as well.) I also got to work the couple of Nitros they did out in the front patio/bus loading area. It was a blast - and wrestling was peaking again because of Hogan turning. Every night, it was easy to get a crowd for the Nitros - but the Worldwide crowds were just -- unbearable. Mick Foley talks about it in his book -- check that out. But basically it was 'whoever wants to see a show!' -- not necessarily 'who wants to see a WRESTLING show'. No merch was sold - or allowed to be sold - on Disney property; so any signs/merch at Worldwide in those years would be handed out to tourists as part of the 'preshow get 'em excited' deal, and so you'd have folks waving Four Horsemen foam four-fingered things, sitting across from floppy 'Hacksaw Duggan' two by fours -- and those wack white t-shirts with the purple WCW logo on them -- and occasionally (I had every single 'special' shirt they gave out) a STING or Ric Flair shirt or -- and this was killer -- a Hulkamania shirt. This was like the third or fourth Nitro I think? They have an opening match - and the broadcast has the Horsemen fighting Luger - when Jimmy Hart of the Dungeon of Doom runs out and begs the Horsemen for help. Cut to backstage, where Nash and Hall appear to have destroyed Arn Anderson and Scotty Riggs with bats, and then throw Rey into the trailer like a dart. I'm IN THE CROWD at that point, sneaking in to catch the show, trying not to be seen on camera because we weren't supposed to get tickets for these events ESPECIALLY given the lack of seating for tourists who WANTED to be there. Then, I hear my buddy tell me to get backstage - and I run back there; the 'attack' took place in a side street for food deliveries where the production vehicles and satellite trucks were set up next to Tower of Terror. My buddy Chris and John were on the radios saying that Orange County Sheriff's had been in contact with Reedy Creek (the Disney Police -- no lie -- Disney has a Secret Police Force) about a gang fight on the premises, and were asserting jurisdiction for that level of crime. I got to hear the frantic 'It's just a show! Turn on the TV!' type argument over the walkies we had; I throw on my godawful yellow costume shirt for 'security' -- (Production was around the corner from the primary locker/cleaning and central Disney offices as well) -- and I caught the aftermath of what was going on. Two ambulances from ORMC got sent, but Reedy Creek already took the 'victims' to the 'hospital'. Cops show up, warily, and meanwhile -- NOTHING is happening out in the ring -- just chants of 'BULLSHIT' and 'BORING' -- the folks unaware they were missing history. Checking it out on the Network, I'm visible once or twice in the crowd, but I'm leaving the area as Chris is telling me to come backstage. Always been a fan of Hall and Nash -- basically because for ONE NIGHT -- Wrestling was real to EVERYBODY, dammit. :D
I remember watching that show where Scott first showed up. Was a WCW fan long before the NWO was created. I remember thinking WTF is Razor doing there, thinking he was WWF, then uttering that iconic line. One of the greatest moments in wrestling tv.
Jonathan Oosthuis but how would you even think of that in the first place? If you'd never thought you'd see it doesn't that mean you had the thought of it already in your mind before you first saw it?
Did anybody else notice Kevin Nash saying Eric came to my 'crib' around 4:20? That's why he's my #1 fav wrestler of all time because he's just chill AF
It’s funny how Kevin in several shoot interviews he calls his match at Mania 12 with Taker a “co-main event” He and Taker had a great match but it was never promoted or sold as a “co-main event” any time by the company.
@@Lord_Bibulous I realize that. Once again though, go back to all the build-up on the Raw and Superstars episodes, or even the day of the PPV, never once do you hear it being pushed as a double main event. At least not like it was at Wrestlemania 8.
Still one of the all time greatest Monday Nitro moments. Nash catching Rey, and tossing him into the trailer wall. Larry Zbyszko yelling,"He threw him like he was a dart!" th-cam.com/video/gdu__J8jTnI/w-d-xo.html We were screaming that across the shop floor at work Tuesday morning.
@@Mr_Clean Yep, the only time a Wrestler was on both shows simultaneously. RAW taped every other week, while NITRO was Live every week. Rude may have been one of the last guys to NOT have to SIGN a No Compete Agreement.
WCW was great for wrestling overall....... u had the split of old guard to allow the WWE to do the attitude era with Rock and Austin etc...... it's a very strange chemistry how that played out....... never to be replicated again.
Really? You might be too young to know this but Nash and Hall were 2 of the most OVER wrestlers of all time. Wether it was as razor and diesel or the outsiders them boys sold out every arena in this country!
@@brfuzz5600 Yeah i know they were over. I just find it hard to believe anyone would pay Kevin Nash to wrestle. Have you seen him wrestle? Its awful. Ive been watching since the 80s
Would you say the same about Andre the Giant? Nobody paid to see him wrestle. It was the spectacle. It takes more to get over in wrestling than doing moves. If this were true and the best "wrestlers" made the most money and were selling out arenas guys like Dean Malenko would be the best ever.
This is why the territories worked IMO. Popular guys switching promotions, taking spots or time from other established guys that were in place. Nash and Hall get it to a certain degree I think. Oh and that Rey Mysterio lawn dart by Nash into the trailer was epic.
Bret took a tombstone from the Undertaker not long before that match. Diesel was still under Shawn at this point. Having Bret take the tombstone, then take the jack knife from Diesel who was under Shawn would diminish the buildup for Shawn vs Bret that was coming at WM12.
Early in his WWE tenure as "Big Daddy Cool" Diesel, Nash, a wrestler of average skills at best, befriended Shawn Michaels who had Vince McMahon's ear at the time backstage. Later in WCW, he was closely aligned with Hogan and Bischoff and somehow managed to parlay those relationships into the job as a booker. Later, when he went to TNA, he befriended Jeff Jarrett who's father owned the promotion. Nash's problem wasn't that he was a good networker, but rather that he used his backstage stroke to not only push his own career but also to hold down wrestlers who he felt were not at his level (and ironically almost all of the guys in question from Chris Jericho, to Bret Hart, to A.J. Styles were vastly superior wrestlers to Nash). For those who believe that the ability to act cool and cut a good promo is what makes a wrestler truly great Nash, might have a case. However, he was a pitiful wrestler, and even where he was strong (charisma and mic skills) he was still always overshadowed by the likes of HBK, Triple H, Scott Hall, and Hogan
Imo, a good wrestling show has a balanced card. I don't wanna see high flyers every match, nor do I wanna see big guys every match 🤷 Nash and Hall brought something to the table that most guys couldn't: charisma. People were cheering for Kofi Vs Bryan, and that shit was the most boring main event I have ever layed eyes on. It only went down so well because the fans were *invested* in the storyline. Neither Kofi, Daniel Bryan or PG WWE is to my taste, so for me, the whole thing sucked ass, but my point is that guys like Nash and Hall are what made wrestling into the party atmosphere it became. *I'd tune in to WWE if it had personalities like Nash and Hall still*
TrashCanDatNoOb Wut I like this post but I respectfully disagree with the party aspect (you didn’t like DB/Kofi, I did but to each it’s own), Vince was the first to that with the early Wrestlemanias with the connection with MTV and celebrity involvements like Mr. T, etc.
TrashCanDatNoOb Wut and that’s what it’s all about. People try to make it seem like Professional wrestling is real lol. People come to watch wwe/wcw for entertainment that’s it. That’s why the ratings blew up back in the day. Stone cold and the rock is two of the most well known professionals wrestlers of all time not cause of their wrestling but because of their charisma and how they had the audience in the palm of their hand. Also I might add these wrestlers are today are better wrestlers than the wrestlers from back in the day but that doesn’t mean shit if they don’t have no type of charisma. Ratings suck because of all these damn vanilla midgets on tv.
Obviously didn’t watch WCW back in the day if you think he purely made it due to who he knew. He was one of the most over guys in the business & regularly got the biggest pops of the night. History revisionists really helped skew reality for you. The nWo’s heart & soul was Scotty & Big Sexy.
You may question his wrestling abilities but with Nash and Hall leaving it changed the wrestling dynamics in many ways. It forced the WWE to actually pay their staff and wrestlers a decent wage as they were not the controlling monopoly anymore. They were apart of the biggest movement that pushed WCW and WWF at the time the NWO BROTHERRRRRRRR then the attitude ara and DX and the NWO back. So he did play a part in making wrestling history.
It would be a great idea for the reigning champion to get humiliated twice in a row leading into wrestlemania to get people over in an angle he isn’t directly involved in! ESPECIALLY when one of those guys (who’s even had a run as champ) will leave the company at the drop of a hat if he doesn’t get his way once….
I see both guys logic on the issue, Bret being a wrestling lifer and how important he took the being a champion thing though (screwjob included, not wanting to drop the title before Survivor Series 1997, for example, after being billed as champion) his approach was probably best. and as noted in another comment, that elevated HBK's win too, the very top guy in the company.
Put McMahon in a room and ask him who made him more money Hall/Nash or Bret Hart. He would say Hart 100% of the time. Dude wrestled every night unless he was actually hurt. Nash had so many phantom injuries in WCW that lazy asshole never worked a year straight. Hall was a great worker but he was weak minded and couldn’t control himself so was a liability because he could only be pushed so far. WCW was gonna give him the strap and he got drunk on Nitro and threw up on live tv. These guys can act like they know everything but they was really riding Hogan’s coattails in WCW because the NWO would of never worked without Hogan turning heel.
The NWO would have totally worked without Hogan, as a matter of fact hogan would have never turned if he didn't see what they had was a million dollar idea. Hulkamania was starting to get boring and he knew it. He needed them more then they needed him, that's why when they split and it was black and white vs wolf Pac hogan black and white sucked and he had to jump ship, it was pathetic. If they were riding his coattails he should of been just fine without them and he was not.
Its actually more like Kevin saying Bret caused him to leave Scott had actually started to say he liked the angle he said it was cool then Kevin cuts him off. And tbh the best thing he couldve done is gone to wcw imo he wasnt that great as champ and his matches where boring except for his matches with Bret & hbk or the times he was in a royal rumble he could pull off that monster tossing everybody out pretty good but I always thought Scott > Kevin sucks he had those demons I could see him as champ.
I think the point was that Nash felt he should stick Bret with a powerbomb before Taker grabbed him, so that it was obvious that Diesel was going to win the match and Taker cost him the title. (And he's right.) The way they ended up doing it, you could argue that Taker just spoiled the match and you didn't know who was going to win the Bret/Diesel match anyway. Not a huge Nash fan, but he's 100% right here. If this story is accurate, Bret needed to chill out and let them tell the story better.
It's funny that Nash left because Bret wouldn't let him get over. Pretty sure a lot of talent left WCW cause they got buried by Nash. Jericho comes to mind.
Then we would of not had the NWO change over and the attitude area and most wrestlers were still not on contract getting decent deals. They may of left for themselves but it forced the WWE to actually pay their people and take some accountability. Like it or hate it they changed wrestling.
Yeah they really could have even had it so that Bret saw Taker first and got distracted. Then right after the powerbomb Taker gets in and screws the match. There, both guys look strong
Bret didn't want to have the title saved by interference again, didnt want to look weak heading into Mania Especially since he was dropping the belt to Shawn Michaels
@Douglas Taggart Still, in my opinion there would always have been an "if" that people would wonder. If Diesel did the Power Bomb maybe Bret would of gotten out of it or kicked out. That's how I would've pitched it.. but he really wasn't being a better team player
I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit. I'm heard several versions of Nash's "call Bishoff" story or stories. Some take place in the locker room, some in the shower and some in a motel. Now down by ringside.
Neeta Song there's video where they call Bret the "400 thousand dollar champion." Where both Hall and Nash both claim that Bret was happy making only 400k per year as long as he won. Well the problem with that bullshit story is it's very well documented that Bret was the very first Superstar in the WWE (WWF at the time.) to be signed to a million dollar contract. In fact because of that contract and Vince not being able to pay it is what eventually would lead to the events surrounding the Montreal Screwjob.
Bret didn't sign the 20 year, million dollar contract until late 1996 after being gone for at least half a year and 100% after Hall and Nash were both already gone. So, it's not bullshit. Even if he was making more than 400k from late '92-early '96, it sure as hell wasn't a million.
Everybody involved has changed the story multiple times. It's the main reasons other wrestlers say it's a work. If you look at Bret's history...his father, being involved in the business all his life, and how he takes the business more serious than ANYONE...for him to go against the number one rule of "Do what you're told, when you're told." doesn't make any sense. Plus, Vince's insistence on making sure Bret was allowed to attack him. When you combine the whole story it really does start to come off as a work. It was the end of a year long angle of Bret accusing Vince of always screwing him (they let him say "goddamn" and "bullshit" on Raw in 1997 while "shooting" on him, ffs)...then turning heel...and starting to publicly trash Shawn and Vince...Vince at one point encourages Bret to go to WCW because of the money but then "screws" him...the "Bret Screwed Bret" interview where he made sure you could see his black eye a week later...the perfectly timed "Wrestling With Shadows" doc, etc...It probably seems impossible to be a work to some until you remember what they do for a living. They are masters at making people believe something that isn't real IS real.
Nash settled on his reason for leaving because he can sound like the victim. Hello Kev you were in The Kliq and you guys were running the place. He and Hall are entertaining guys but they were greedy and political as Hell.
Hall should have gotten that strap. I've re watched a lot of those mid 90's Nitros. Hogan was embarrassingly past his prime at this point. Hall was absolutely on top of his game while Hogan was doing those terrible seemingly hour long pose downs with Bischoff.
when Scott Hall and Kevin Nash went to WCW and formed the NWO that was money . the group changed the game in the 90's where it became cool to cheer the bad guys .along with Hogan turning heel it was the best thing to happen wrestling along with the WWF doing DX and changing to a more adult orientated show and the crazy over the top stuff ECW was doing wrestling in the 90's was cool and the ratings were through the roof .too bad those days are gone . there will never be another boom like that again .
To be fair, craig strachan, only Hogan, Bischoff, Hennig, Rude, Steiner, Giant, Bagwell and Bret got booed, while Nash, Hall, Waltman and Savage got most of the cheers among the nWo.
For a long time as a kid my mom didn't let me watch wrestling. Then when we finally got cable and I was allowed to watch, it happened to be the best era ever. First time I watched Nitro the nWo was jumping Macho Man and spray painting his back. My 11 year old self was like OMG WTF is going on!? Haha such an awesome time to be a fan.
regardless of the subjects they're talking about i'm so happy to see Hall this clean and healthy... and Nash is such a smooth talker and is such a smart guy... he actually makes you believe that everything he says it's true...
We’re just gonna ignore kevins magnificent hair????
It's called a wig
God damn right!
I was thinking the same thing.
No one is ignoring it. It’s an impressive mane.
Big Sexy.
Between the razor phone and g unit shirt, this is the most 2005 shit ive ever seen since 2005 lol.
Perhaps, but what other phone could razor Ramon use?
2007
razor with the razor phone. i love it
@@GregHuffman1987 He had Halls cough drops in his pocket too...not alot of people know that.
"Hulk wasn't gonna let the money train leave without him getting a seat on it" oh man. Perfect.
Vince Torres wait a minute. Why would he? Lol Hogan was smart as hell.
Yes! It’s called being successful!
Ummm and??? Wouldn’t that make you the dumbest bastard in the business if you didn’t?
Nobody blames Hogan Nash n Hall for what they did in terms of money just holding ppl down that was the problem
EAchank according to who? There is a difference between holding on to the top as long as you can and intentionally holding someone down. So who did Hulk hold down? It was his idea to put the title on Goldberg.
I feel like all of Kevin's stories take place in Louisville.
Cornette country
Or Indianapolis 😂😂😂
Hahaha I’ve never really thought about it but you’re right!! 😂
Putting 502 on the map
@@Clousey1407 In just about every shoot interview, Kevin’s stories always seem to take place in Louisville for some reason. Lol
Rest in paradise Scott Hall your one of the greatest wrestlers to leave an impact for pro wrestling SURVEY SAYS ...You will be missed🙏🏿💚
* you’re
Thank you DDP for helping him have a happy last few years
*you’re 🤦♂️
@@caseysimon6357 oh look it's a grammar Nazi 😆 🤣
I promise you he's not in paradise
Bret didn't make them leave. They left for the money, less days working, and guaranteed contracts.
Yes, he's full of it.
Bret was such a prick he didnt care about Takers mania match and Taker has told this story himself its the only time he got really angry
@@cragerzz if it was hulk or Shawn or anyone else had have said “I won’t lose the belt to him and I can’t lose in my home country” they’d be the prick that won’t do business. But Bret hart gets treated like a victim.
@@troystaunton254 Hence why Bret screwed Bret
@@troystaunton254 are you kidding? Shawn forfeited the belt TWICE before cause he didn’t want to lose or cause he “lost his smile” but he never gets flak for that. Also ric flair appeared on wwf with the wcw championship belt but he gets no flak for that but Bret refuses to lose BECAUSE HE HAD CREATIVE CONTROL OVER HIS CONTRACT and he gets vilified for it? Plus so many people have said they don’t Believe Bret would have ever went to wcw with the wwf belt including Kevin nash. Bret always gets blamed for the Montreal screw job only because Shawn is vinces ex lover and hhh’s best friend so they will always protect him. Lets talk about all the careers and lives that Shawn ruined back in his days? He’s one of the worst people ever.
We just gonna sit here and ignore the fact that Scott got on a G-Unit shirt
I-am TheRealWill haha I just know that these 2 are real as ish
I-am TheRealWill The flip phone took all my attention. Totally missed the shirt.
Thats G-unit shirt with Flip phone lol Nash is thinking ahead this shoot video will be out there forever so he like let me where my Pow MiA shirt i remember they would where fubu shirts to the ring bc they wanted to stay up to date on what the kids think are cool lol
Ray Lewis Lewis black culture always popped. Muthafuckas never wanted to admit it (Vince etc) but Nash would always give it up. Hell where yall think 4 life (foe life) came from? It was mack 10! Hell Cena's whole gimmick was ripped off from the unit. Spinner belts based off of fif's spinning chain. You can't see me based off of yayo's dance which came from Redd foxx. Props to hall for that shirt though yell
I was baffled, definetly raised my eyebrows.
These guys are so "themselves" without any apology. It's easy to hate them. That's what made them great heels. They talk candid and make it sound like they pulled off a heist. I have grown some serious respect for these guys.
It’s easy to like them too, it’s why they were so over in the 90s.
Unlike biter Bret.
@@al112v4you’re going to offend someone with talk like that lol
The moment of shared admiration for Rey Mysterio was a nice touch.
Everyone can talk about Nash's lack of (admitted) wrestling ability or Scott's issues and unprofessionalism but their arrival in WCW and the formation and first year of the nWo is THE best wrestling angle of all time. Anyone who says otherwise didn't experience it as it happened and any wrestler who says it isn't is probably jealous. It went to absolute, unwatchable shit but May '96 to December '97 in WCW is still untouchable....and with the state the business is in, that's never going to change.
I feel you, but it was not an arrival, it was a return, they was in WCW before they went to the WWF, then went back to WCW until it was bought out.
Then wwe copied it
they copy ere damn thing. lol
Blind Terry Tucci Which makes their titanic collapse just a mere 5 years later all the more embarrassing.
The 80's Wolf Bischoff admitted he copied the nWo angle from Japan.
As someone who has (maybe even currently is)battling addiction, I am so fucking proud of Scott Hall!!!!!!!!!!!! This guy was knocking on deaths door and he completely turned everything around. And you better believe he has some AMAZING stories to tell. I just cant wait to hear them coming from a sober Scott Hall
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Amen!@ you John, you are also a classy person!! Thumbs 👍 👍 up to you! Have a great day and God Bless you! To you and your whole family and friends!!
DDP added a decade to his life. Thank God Scott went to him for help.
Ant proof for what you said dude?
@@KevinSorbo. that's an interesting take.
Still love watching Kev play darts with Mysterio. Definitely a classic.
Scott Hall has a "Razor " flip phone!! Hahahahahaha
Haha great catch!
Javier Aviles i lmfao when he flipped that sh!t open!
Javier Aviles That is such a boss move. He's still got the machismo.
Heard he rides around in a razor scooter.
Javier Aviles
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHA
Kevin Nash did a pretty good impression of Shawn Michaels.
A great impression of Bret as well.
Nash went where the money was. Period. No need to make excuses.
Joseph Johnroe he’s a smart man
I don't think he ever made excuses just more reasons why to leave, he made it clear the money was a big reason.
If another job offered you double the money, half the work, what would u say? Anybody would take it
and less work
For real he should not be making no excuse, just say you want to go for the money why you got to be blaming Bret Hart for everything the one he should be blaming is Vince McMahon he's always screwing people in the business.
So Kevin leaves because of Bret complaining, but conveniently forgets how many people him and Shawn complained to Vince about...seems legit.
Difference is kevin and taker was trying to make there story better it make sense and hart was not having it, hbk and nash only complained about wrestlers that could not wrestled or gimmicks that was stupid, like all the occupation gimmicks.
I don’t agree with Kevin here. At that time he had no right in calling a finish for a Bret Hart match. Especially since it would have made Bret seem so weak as the champion. How would it have looked for Bret to have been beat in two paper views in a row? Makes no sense. Bret was the champion. Imagine seeing two paper views in a row where hulk hogan would have been beat in both of them like how he wanted Bret to have been beat? Come on. It’s not an ego thing and I know Bret had an ego just like many other wrestlers back then but in this case I agree with Bret. Now if Vince would have recommended that finish then it’s a different story.
@@jmi84 Bret wasn’t getting beat because if he was then him and Shawn weren’t going to get the ppv, which was already planned. It was for it to look like Kevin got cheated out of the title because he was about to win but Taker got him. So revenge that would make their storyline better.
Thats why it was called the Kliq. I see your point because everyplace I ever worked had their own dick cliques. A group of people who somehow managed to shove their work on everyone else less than a decade in. The same people who constantly snitch on everyone else ( yet call the police if you tell them to meet them in a field across the street after they snitched on you & dicked you up on the job) yet somehow have deluded themselves into believing they should be paid more for doing less. I had the satisfaction of seeing regional management come in & reassign every one of the dick clique to either different departments & shifts. 2 quit in protest. good riddance.
Kevin Nash is very wrong about he should do his finisher on Hart. Because as mention in here. That would make Hart look very weak and what point to see Hart vs HBK 60 minutes?
Bret didn’t push Nash out, Kevin took advantage of a company (wCw) that was clueless and was desperate to beat WWF.
@JV Harbin Nearly, until they became cancerous with hogan and stopped talent and matches coming through in 1998.
@TheVolourn Not from 1998 onwards.
Bret hart gave this guy his only decent matches
The match he's talking about at mania 12 versus the undertaker was pretty good too but I agree his best match by far is with Bret Hart
I disagree, I’ve liked his matches against HHH, Rey Mysterio, Goldberg, Sid, Booker T, Sting, Steiners, Jericho....
The list goes on.
His best match was the one with HBK at the Good Friends, Better Enemies PPV after WM 12.
@@SRPC21 Nash/Diesel vs. Sid sounds like the bore fest of the century lmao
@@EnigmaticAnamoly nah man, it was very dope
Them giving Rey his fucking props was awesome. We all know Mysterio payed his damn dues. Thanks Kevin and Scott for all of the memories. You two were apart of some of the most memorable moments of my childhood. Scott, I’m so glad to see you doing so well and I wish you health going into the future. Thanks again fellas!!
This is a really old shoot.
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I've heard him say this so many times. Imagine this your Bret Hart the reigning WWE Champion. You are heading into Wrestlemania 12 for an Ironman Match with HBK in the main event. Imagine being asked to in back to back PPV's leading to Mania get laid out and left for beaten to build up someone else's program. Gee sounds like a great idea. How selfish of him not to go along with that genius booking. Never been a huge Hitman fan but I have always found it funny that Kevin thinks he's completely right on this.
Yeah I always think this story is BS anyways. But where I do give it props is that if the shoes were reversed Bret would be mad about how Kevin didn't want to put him over. That's always the Bret issue - he never wanted to put people over but thought everybody owed it to him.
@@Matt-cr4vv that's bollocks buddy. Bret put over plenty.
Diesel real first title defense was bret at the Royal rumble which ended in a draw so nash always had that in the back of his mind
@@animalcol1 exactly this.
@@Matt-cr4vv wow, how delusional do you have to be to believe what you just wrote? You need to start living in reality dude smh
The match that Nash w. Shawn Michaels & Hall had for the WWF intercontinental title hooked me.
Rest in Peace, Scott Hall
Hall in that G Unit shirt
I think he bought them in bulk . I seen him wear many G Unit shirts.
Well they were comfortable as hell lol
Jawanna Man thats because in real life, he is a certified g. hell fight anybody and not a scared coward like some of these wussified wrestlers . dude shot a man in real life. ppl want to hate on the outsiders (not saying you) but i have followed hall since i was a child. i love hbk bc he was one of the best performers, but we was a baby and certified bitch back in the day. hall was the real deal outside the ring
Freemasonry
I grew up in middle school watching these guys and it felt real for sure. I remember going to school on Tuesday and everyone was talking about what happened on nitro the night before. True legends, RIP to the bad guy.
"Kev, this is what I'm getting...if you come in, try to get more...get more!" - This just sums up these two perfectly.
Wrestle for 25 years incur injury after injury and you are dam right I want my god dam money.
Lol if you were Scott Hall and had that deal you’d do the same thing. Lmao
Bret was right tho. Why would the champ take a finish on the ppv before mania when he’s going into mania as champ. The taker diesel storyline didnt need bret to take the finish.
Especially since he would go into WM with zero credibility as champion. How could he put Shawn over under those circumstances? The fans would shit all over it. Which they did.
@@mattysquizzato7094Not to mention the month before, Nash screwed Taker over. So Bret as champion had to go into Mania on the back of two fuck finishes? He had every right to stand his ground.
These 2 really are amazing. Scott might be the best ever, life long heel, never wanted the spotlight, constantly upping everyone around him. Only one that even comes close to this is Taker.
Remember when scott first came out on wcw I was barely watching it and was lucky to not have change the channel . This blew my mind as an 8 year old .
its nice to see Scott hall doing well. he looks great
This hasn't aged well.
Rest easy Scott Hall one of the greatest to ever grace the industry 🙏
These guys have more fun stories than the entire current roster combined. No wonder, Razor was my favorite. I was 8 yr old when I watched my first WWF match, and it was Razor vs someone whom I don't remember, lol. At those times, here in India, matches were telecast like 2-3 weeks after they were taped. Most times ppl rented VCRs to watch WWF Superstars episodes.
These interviews are golden, thank you
Nash looks like a jacked up Jeff Bridges here. Lol.
haha i literally imagine the scene with Nash wearing the Lebowsky dressing gown!
Sleep easy Scott. Nice that we have so much of their friendship on film we can watch and enjoy forever
Say what you want about these two, but they knew how to make money.
More like they got lucky wrestling blew up like crazy right when they were hot and the idiots up top just threw cash thinking that gravy boat would keep grown and then you know the rest.
People of the future, that was a phone Hall pulled out of his pocket
And to add to this, Scoot Hall is wearing a G-Unit shirt, G-Unit was a collection of hip hop/rap musicians headed up by a rapper called 50 cent. They parlayed their music careers into a clothing line, like many other rappers of the day tried to do.
@Abe Lincoln Jr. 90's was the absolute best decade ;)
@@HeyYo8 built a time machine and take me back to the 90s
There was a little buzz kinda getting me back, but that Mysterio bump is what got me back into wrestling. That cold open of the show with these two guys just "invading" another company and destroying people "for real" was great television and I was all in after that.
Kevin has very stylish hair and Scott obviously likes G-Unit music. Rip Scott Hall
Nash & Hall two of the coolest dudes wrestling has ever had.
True. And selfish bullshitters
'cool' is gross, but we need them, I guess
anyone notice Razor's Razer LMAO
Bret Hart gave Kevin Nash the best match of his career. Like most other wrestlers
@J Crash Bye Shawn...Survivor Series was better
@J Crash You seem like Shawn's bitch, always writing something against hart in all videos. Biased fucker
LOL Rey, "Throw me hard as you can!"
Everyone else "OMG poor Rey!"
Is Scott Hall really wearing a
G-Unit shirt 😂😂😂
Sure is 🤣
So -- funny and true story: I was there the night the cops got really called on Monday Nitro; I was working for WDW resort at the (then) MGM Studios theme park. I was a ride host on 'Inside the Magic' -- the mini special effects tour; I walked folks through the ride, did a little gimmick at the beginning and end, and Bob's your dad's brother.
But -- that summer, and prior to that -- WCW had been shooting wrestling there, and if you wanted a BIG bump in your paycheck and overtime -- and a backstage look at production being shot on site -- you could sign up to work park security and semi-PA for the producers/AD and whoever else asked you to do stuff.
So I worked about half a dozen WCW Worldwides, and the inserts they'd shoot for Nitro and Saturday Night as security (though Turner guys were always there - I guess it was just a requirement of Disney to have WDW people there as well.)
I also got to work the couple of Nitros they did out in the front patio/bus loading area. It was a blast - and wrestling was peaking again because of Hogan turning. Every night, it was easy to get a crowd for the Nitros - but the Worldwide crowds were just -- unbearable. Mick Foley talks about it in his book -- check that out. But basically it was 'whoever wants to see a show!' -- not necessarily 'who wants to see a WRESTLING show'.
No merch was sold - or allowed to be sold - on Disney property; so any signs/merch at Worldwide in those years would be handed out to tourists as part of the 'preshow get 'em excited' deal, and so you'd have folks waving Four Horsemen foam four-fingered things, sitting across from floppy 'Hacksaw Duggan' two by fours -- and those wack white t-shirts with the purple WCW logo on them -- and occasionally (I had every single 'special' shirt they gave out) a STING or Ric Flair shirt or -- and this was killer -- a Hulkamania shirt.
This was like the third or fourth Nitro I think? They have an opening match - and the broadcast has the Horsemen fighting Luger - when Jimmy Hart of the Dungeon of Doom runs out and begs the Horsemen for help. Cut to backstage, where Nash and Hall appear to have destroyed Arn Anderson and Scotty Riggs with bats, and then throw Rey into the trailer like a dart.
I'm IN THE CROWD at that point, sneaking in to catch the show, trying not to be seen on camera because we weren't supposed to get tickets for these events ESPECIALLY given the lack of seating for tourists who WANTED to be there. Then, I hear my buddy tell me to get backstage - and I run back there; the 'attack' took place in a side street for food deliveries where the production vehicles and satellite trucks were set up next to Tower of Terror. My buddy Chris and John were on the radios saying that Orange County Sheriff's had been in contact with Reedy Creek (the Disney Police -- no lie -- Disney has a Secret Police Force) about a gang fight on the premises, and were asserting jurisdiction for that level of crime.
I got to hear the frantic 'It's just a show! Turn on the TV!' type argument over the walkies we had; I throw on my godawful yellow costume shirt for 'security' -- (Production was around the corner from the primary locker/cleaning and central Disney offices as well) -- and I caught the aftermath of what was going on. Two ambulances from ORMC got sent, but Reedy Creek already took the 'victims' to the 'hospital'. Cops show up, warily, and meanwhile -- NOTHING is happening out in the ring -- just chants of 'BULLSHIT' and 'BORING' -- the folks unaware they were missing history.
Checking it out on the Network, I'm visible once or twice in the crowd, but I'm leaving the area as Chris is telling me to come backstage. Always been a fan of Hall and Nash -- basically because for ONE NIGHT -- Wrestling was real to EVERYBODY, dammit. :D
1:22 "what's in it for me what's in it for me?" lol. nash is so funny. i love these shoot interviews. Rest in Peace Scott Hall!
Scott when Kevin started telling the story about Eric Bischoff coming to his house😭😭😭
These 2-guys changed wrestling forever in spring 1996 WCW -NWO
Both the best, and worst thing that ever happened to WCW.
@@2HitWonder it wasn't hall n Nash that made it go bad
I remember watching that show where Scott first showed up. Was a WCW fan long before the NWO was created. I remember thinking WTF is Razor doing there, thinking he was WWF, then uttering that iconic line. One of the greatest moments in wrestling tv.
they should be in the Hall of Fame as a Tag Team.
matthew reeves why?
@@kingrama27 Both his quads should be in the Hall of Fame as a tag team.
Scott Hall with a G Unit shirt is soo epic! lol
Anthony Starkey Scott Hall in a G Unit shirt is something I never thought I'd see lol
Jonathan Oosthuis but how would you even think of that in the first place? If you'd never thought you'd see it doesn't that mean you had the thought of it already in your mind before you first saw it?
jrodjc shut the fuck up
So Nash is saying he would have turned down more money to work less days if it wasn't for Bret Hart? Sure Nash we believe you.......
He's so full of shit.
😂😂😂 ikr Nash c'mon bruh
Yeah he’s not being completely honest here
Hall is such a smooth mo-fo, but damn I just gotta say that in this vid he really really resembles Steven Segal.
I love hearing these guys talking about how they were able to get paid. Scott was really a best friend to Kevin Nash, even while battling his demons.
Well that’s one more reason to be thankful for Bret Hart.
Did anybody else notice Kevin Nash saying Eric came to my 'crib' around 4:20? That's why he's my #1 fav wrestler of all time because he's just chill AF
No doubt, I always thouggt the same thing about him..hes mad cool and down with the culture and talks the talk lol
Yeah Nash it was Bret Hart not the 10 million+ contract they wrote you
Da Bad Guy sporting a G-Unit shirt wit a Razor flip phone!!! True G
Nash does a dead on impression of Shawn Micahels
It’s funny how Kevin in several shoot interviews he calls his match at Mania 12 with Taker a
“co-main event”
He and Taker had a great match but it was never promoted or sold as a “co-main event” any time by the company.
Shawn, Bret, Undertaker and Nash were on the promo poster. So was Hall even though he wasn't there.
@@Lord_Bibulous I realize that. Once again though, go back to all the build-up on the Raw and Superstars episodes, or even the day of the PPV, never once do you hear it being pushed as a double main event. At least not like it was at Wrestlemania 8.
Still one of the all time greatest Monday Nitro moments. Nash catching Rey, and tossing him into the trailer wall. Larry Zbyszko yelling,"He threw him like he was a dart!"
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We were screaming that across the shop floor at work Tuesday morning.
Scott Hall’s reaction was what made it funnier.
The funniest in my opinion was when Rick rude was on nitro completely clean shaven, but also on Monday night raw with a beard 🤣
@@Mr_Clean Yep, the only time a Wrestler was on both shows simultaneously. RAW taped every other week, while NITRO was Live every week.
Rude may have been one of the last guys to NOT have to SIGN a No Compete Agreement.
these guys created and ended the best years in wcw history
My man Scott rockin the G unit tee lol my guy! Rip!
I said the same thing
This interview is old as hell.
Wow. I love how these guys are being honest and not trying to say every idea was there's ...... Gave Bischoff and Larry Z credit
WCW was great for wrestling overall....... u had the split of old guard to allow the WWE to do the attitude era with Rock and Austin etc...... it's a very strange chemistry how that played out....... never to be replicated again.
i still can't believe kevin nash was paid to wrestle
Really? You might be too young to know this but Nash and Hall were 2 of the most OVER wrestlers of all time. Wether it was as razor and diesel or the outsiders them boys sold out every arena in this country!
@@brfuzz5600 Yeah i know they were over. I just find it hard to believe anyone would pay Kevin Nash to wrestle. Have you seen him wrestle? Its awful. Ive been watching since the 80s
@Antonio 1848 yes , but to be fair, it was a wrestling program he was on.
Would you say the same about Andre the Giant? Nobody paid to see him wrestle. It was the spectacle. It takes more to get over in wrestling than doing moves.
If this were true and the best "wrestlers" made the most money and were selling out arenas guys like Dean Malenko would be the best ever.
@@justinmartin1831No. I would never compare the two.
This is why the territories worked IMO. Popular guys switching promotions, taking spots or time from other established guys that were in place. Nash and Hall get it to a certain degree I think. Oh and that Rey Mysterio lawn dart by Nash into the trailer was epic.
I absolutely hated Kevin when I was a kid because of the Rey incident lol I 100% thought it was real
Kevin told Vince to match Eric’s financial offer . Vince said, “No”. Kevin left. I’ve seen him say it on other shoots. Bret’s the best ever.
Yeah I've never understood why he tries to spin the Bret narrative. I don't think anybody blames them leaving for double the money and half the dates.
Bret took a tombstone from the Undertaker not long before that match. Diesel was still under Shawn at this point. Having Bret take the tombstone, then take the jack knife from Diesel who was under Shawn would diminish the buildup for Shawn vs Bret that was coming at WM12.
Favored Nations is the GREATEST clause ever in a contract.....
"He came up from underneath, it was sweeett." Undertaker's the coolest!
these guys are gold ,Hall an Nash always kill it together. good shit guys.
I didn't know Razor Ramon was now Italian fast food clerk. Hm. I learnt something today.
Nash is a huge mark for himself.
And Bret isn't? Try and find me any video with Bret talking where he doesn't end up talking about himself.
@@SBandy Bret isn't known for burying talent the way Nash was. Especially as a Booker. 🤷♂️
Nash didn't like bret or the rock because he couldn't cry to vince and get them fired.
He hates anyone who treated him the way he treated everyone.
Two of the coolest guys in the biz
Early in his WWE tenure as "Big Daddy Cool" Diesel, Nash, a wrestler of average skills at best, befriended Shawn Michaels who had Vince McMahon's ear at the time backstage.
Later in WCW, he was closely aligned with Hogan and Bischoff and somehow managed to parlay those relationships into the job as a booker. Later, when he went to TNA, he befriended Jeff Jarrett who's father owned the promotion.
Nash's problem wasn't that he was a good networker, but rather that he used his backstage stroke to not only push his own career but also to hold down wrestlers who he felt were not at his level (and ironically almost all of the guys in question from Chris Jericho, to Bret Hart, to A.J. Styles were vastly superior wrestlers to Nash).
For those who believe that the ability to act cool and cut a good promo is what makes a wrestler truly great Nash, might have a case.
However, he was a pitiful wrestler, and even where he was strong (charisma and mic skills) he was still always overshadowed by the likes of HBK, Triple H, Scott Hall, and Hogan
Imo, a good wrestling show has a balanced card. I don't wanna see high flyers every match, nor do I wanna see big guys every match 🤷
Nash and Hall brought something to the table that most guys couldn't: charisma. People were cheering for Kofi Vs Bryan, and that shit was the most boring main event I have ever layed eyes on. It only went down so well because the fans were *invested* in the storyline. Neither Kofi, Daniel Bryan or PG WWE is to my taste, so for me, the whole thing sucked ass, but my point is that guys like Nash and Hall are what made wrestling into the party atmosphere it became.
*I'd tune in to WWE if it had personalities like Nash and Hall still*
TrashCanDatNoOb Wut I like this post but I respectfully disagree with the party aspect (you didn’t like DB/Kofi, I did but to each it’s own), Vince was the first to that with the early Wrestlemanias with the connection with MTV and celebrity involvements like Mr. T, etc.
TrashCanDatNoOb Wut and that’s what it’s all about. People try to make it seem like Professional wrestling is real lol. People come to watch wwe/wcw for entertainment that’s it. That’s why the ratings blew up back in the day. Stone cold and the rock is two of the most well known professionals wrestlers of all time not cause of their wrestling but because of their charisma and how they had the audience in the palm of their hand. Also I might add these wrestlers are today are better wrestlers than the wrestlers from back in the day but that doesn’t mean shit if they don’t have no type of charisma. Ratings suck because of all these damn vanilla midgets on tv.
Obviously didn’t watch WCW back in the day if you think he purely made it due to who he knew. He was one of the most over guys in the business & regularly got the biggest pops of the night. History revisionists really helped skew reality for you. The nWo’s heart & soul was Scotty & Big Sexy.
You may question his wrestling abilities but with Nash and Hall leaving it changed the wrestling dynamics in many ways. It forced the WWE to actually pay their staff and wrestlers a decent wage as they were not the controlling monopoly anymore. They were apart of the biggest movement that pushed WCW and WWF at the time the NWO BROTHERRRRRRRR then the attitude ara and DX and the NWO back. So he did play a part in making wrestling history.
I remember catching that part on Nitro when Nash threw Rey into that trailer. That was a good spot they did back there. Definitely seemed real atm
They were over to an insane level
It would be a great idea for the reigning champion to get humiliated twice in a row leading into wrestlemania to get people over in an angle he isn’t directly involved in! ESPECIALLY when one of those guys (who’s even had a run as champ) will leave the company at the drop of a hat if he doesn’t get his way once….
I see both guys logic on the issue, Bret being a wrestling lifer and how important he took the being a champion thing though (screwjob included, not wanting to drop the title before Survivor Series 1997, for example, after being billed as champion) his approach was probably best. and as noted in another comment, that elevated HBK's win too, the very top guy in the company.
The Curtain Call, matches with H.B.K. and the arrival to W.C.W. its been nearly 25 years, and Hall and Nash talk about the same thing.
its coz what they are asked by the interviewer
Put McMahon in a room and ask him who made him more money Hall/Nash or Bret Hart. He would say Hart 100% of the time. Dude wrestled every night unless he was actually hurt. Nash had so many phantom injuries in WCW that lazy asshole never worked a year straight. Hall was a great worker but he was weak minded and couldn’t control himself so was a liability because he could only be pushed so far. WCW was gonna give him the strap and he got drunk on Nitro and threw up on live tv. These guys can act like they know everything but they was really riding Hogan’s coattails in WCW because the NWO would of never worked without Hogan turning heel.
That puke was gimmicked. *facepalm*
@@BigEvan96 he must think wrestling is real😂🤣😂🤣.
The NWO would have totally worked without Hogan, as a matter of fact hogan would have never turned if he didn't see what they had was a million dollar idea. Hulkamania was starting to get boring and he knew it. He needed them more then they needed him, that's why when they split and it was black and white vs wolf Pac hogan black and white sucked and he had to jump ship, it was pathetic. If they were riding his coattails he should of been just fine without them and he was not.
Shiver nope your wrong
Chad Willett it is fagatoe
Bret was smart. He knew exactly what Nash was thinking. Not saying it was the right thing to do or say but they were both after their own interests.
You might be cool, but you will never be "scott hall checking his flip phone" cool!
Its actually more like Kevin saying Bret caused him to leave Scott had actually started to say he liked the angle he said it was cool then Kevin cuts him off. And tbh the best thing he couldve done is gone to wcw imo he wasnt that great as champ and his matches where boring except for his matches with Bret & hbk or the times he was in a royal rumble he could pull off that monster tossing everybody out pretty good but I always thought Scott > Kevin sucks he had those demons I could see him as champ.
I think the point was that Nash felt he should stick Bret with a powerbomb before Taker grabbed him, so that it was obvious that Diesel was going to win the match and Taker cost him the title. (And he's right.) The way they ended up doing it, you could argue that Taker just spoiled the match and you didn't know who was going to win the Bret/Diesel match anyway. Not a huge Nash fan, but he's 100% right here. If this story is accurate, Bret needed to chill out and let them tell the story better.
It's funny that Nash left because Bret wouldn't let him get over. Pretty sure a lot of talent left WCW cause they got buried by Nash. Jericho comes to mind.
Literally no one ever has said Nash buried them
Then we would of not had the NWO change over and the attitude area and most wrestlers were still not on contract getting decent deals. They may of left for themselves but it forced the WWE to actually pay their people and take some accountability. Like it or hate it they changed wrestling.
kev's shawn michaels impression is shockingly spot on
I love their friendship. Backs to the wall and back to back.
Makes better sense to let Diesel powerbomb Bret Hart to look like he was about to win but Undertaker screws him.
Yeah they really could have even had it so that Bret saw Taker first and got distracted. Then right after the powerbomb Taker gets in and screws the match. There, both guys look strong
Bret didn't want to have the title saved by interference again, didnt want to look weak heading into Mania Especially since he was dropping the belt to Shawn Michaels
@@coxx5150 And... Literally later on we had Undertaker losing his shot at the title because of Kane which became money at WrestleMania
@Douglas Taggart Still, in my opinion there would always have been an "if" that people would wonder. If Diesel did the Power Bomb maybe Bret would of gotten out of it or kicked out. That's how I would've pitched it.. but he really wasn't being a better team player
I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit. I'm heard several versions of Nash's "call Bishoff" story or stories. Some take place in the locker room, some in the shower and some in a motel. Now down by ringside.
Also his whole story about which finish to the match Bret had a problem taking has changed at least twice this year as well.
Neeta Song there's video where they call Bret the "400 thousand dollar champion." Where both Hall and Nash both claim that Bret was happy making only 400k per year as long as he won. Well the problem with that bullshit story is it's very well documented that Bret was the very first Superstar in the WWE (WWF at the time.) to be signed to a million dollar contract. In fact because of that contract and Vince not being able to pay it is what eventually would lead to the events surrounding the Montreal Screwjob.
Bret didn't sign the 20 year, million dollar contract until late 1996 after being gone for at least half a year and 100% after Hall and Nash were both already gone. So, it's not bullshit. Even if he was making more than 400k from late '92-early '96, it sure as hell wasn't a million.
Everybody involved has changed the story multiple times. It's the main reasons other wrestlers say it's a work. If you look at Bret's history...his father, being involved in the business all his life, and how he takes the business more serious than ANYONE...for him to go against the number one rule of "Do what you're told, when you're told." doesn't make any sense. Plus, Vince's insistence on making sure Bret was allowed to attack him. When you combine the whole story it really does start to come off as a work. It was the end of a year long angle of Bret accusing Vince of always screwing him (they let him say "goddamn" and "bullshit" on Raw in 1997 while "shooting" on him, ffs)...then turning heel...and starting to publicly trash Shawn and Vince...Vince at one point encourages Bret to go to WCW because of the money but then "screws" him...the "Bret Screwed Bret" interview where he made sure you could see his black eye a week later...the perfectly timed "Wrestling With Shadows" doc, etc...It probably seems impossible to be a work to some until you remember what they do for a living. They are masters at making people believe something that isn't real IS real.
Nash settled on his reason for leaving because he can sound like the victim. Hello Kev you were in The Kliq and you guys were running the place. He and Hall are entertaining guys but they were greedy and political as Hell.
Hall should have gotten that strap. I've re watched a lot of those mid 90's Nitros. Hogan was embarrassingly past his prime at this point. Hall was absolutely on top of his game while Hogan was doing those terrible seemingly hour long pose downs with Bischoff.
I always loved Hulk Hogan and macho man early on but started loving Kevin Nash, Scott Hall and Shawn Michael's even more
I’d love to have Kevin write a book so interesting
when Scott Hall and Kevin Nash went to WCW and formed the NWO that was money . the group changed the game in the 90's where it became cool to cheer the bad guys .along with Hogan turning heel it was the best thing to happen wrestling along with the WWF doing DX and changing to a more adult orientated show and the crazy over the top stuff ECW was doing wrestling in the 90's was cool and the ratings were through the roof .too bad those days are gone . there will never be another boom like that again .
To be fair, craig strachan, only Hogan, Bischoff, Hennig, Rude, Steiner, Giant, Bagwell and Bret got booed, while Nash, Hall, Waltman and Savage got most of the cheers among the nWo.
@@FilipoSooaUlufale there were so many members of nwo you left out
I could listen to Razor & Diesel talk all afternoon. The "real" OG's of the game. Razor, you will be missed. RIP El Hefe..
For a long time as a kid my mom didn't let me watch wrestling. Then when we finally got cable and I was allowed to watch, it happened to be the best era ever. First time I watched Nitro the nWo was jumping Macho Man and spray painting his back. My 11 year old self was like OMG WTF is going on!? Haha such an awesome time to be a fan.
Bret was right. He would of looked weak going into Mania with a tainted win over Nash.
Nash walked in on Vince and pat Patterson doing butt stuff brother! Its true
RIP Scott Hall.
regardless of the subjects they're talking about i'm so happy to see Hall this clean and healthy...
and Nash is such a smooth talker and is such a smart guy... he actually makes you believe that everything he says it's true...
This is 2004-2005 buddy