Imagine being a fellow passenger on that plane ride with hbk and Bret talking over plans for extending their feud 😮 now that would've been a great conversation to over hear
I enjoyed 1996 & 1997 mainly due to the fact that Bret, Shawn & Taker were the big 3 and carrying the company during that period. WCW was whipping their asses, but Bret, Shawn & Taker delivered some classic matches and rivalries during that time. Sometimes I wish I could’ve been a fly on the wall backstage during that time 😩
I do think that if you were able to get to Bret and Shawn teaming up together after climbing the ranks together from tag to IC to the World title, it would've been a crazy story. I can't think of a time I saw them actually team up together I'm sure they did but yeah, that would've been cool if it played out that way.
WCW was also going live on Nitro while Raw was still taped and that the whole NWO thing was going on. So, it could be anyone in history who was champion, at that point in time WCW was going to be winning in ratings until things changed. And Bret being off tv the whole time it was happening didn't help either really.
Yeah bret could've been the 3rd nerd in the nwo aka wcw! Just imagine bret not taking a 7 month vacation in 96!!?? On 1996 ppv: kotr 96, summerslam 96, etc. bret vs Vader, bret vs mankind, etc
Looking back now the NWO was only good for maybe that solid year but dragged out for years to come. It should of stayed a smaller group like DX did. Would of made it better over time but it just got stupid and Austin and Rock/DX too just got bigger and better by 1998. The Shield had a longer healthier tenure in the first wave before Seth betrayed over the NWO. They were just letting everyone in that
@@willpowerrazorblade6436 Because running something into the ground even if amazing can only last so long withou changing/adapting. WWF had the ultimate heel in Vince which was even better than the NWO
Consider this: When Bret was champion, Shawn, Razor and Diesel were there in support roles, helping ratings. When Shawn was champ, those 3 were gone, and 2 of them were heavily featured on the competition.
You also have to consider the fact that when Bret was champion wrestling as a whole was going through a rough patch and he was trying to live up to much bigger names.
At 15:56 “This will really break his heart when I say this on tv.” He’s the heart break kid! Lol. But we’re all still human beings and some words? Become fight words. It’s ironic Bret talked about breaking Shawn’s heart.
@@mstancl I think the screw job was what really took him over the edge. Sadly people won’t keep talking about it. I’m sure the participants are sick of hearing it. Lol
@@ezj9103 makes sense... he stuck it through until the straw on the camel's back. Got a huge paycheck from Ted Tuner and Goldberg made it easier on him.
We as humans have on average, six dreams a night but we can only remember a maximum of two of them. Bret the heartman should be more concerned with what’s going on in the other four dreams than breaking another man’s heart in 1997. I need answers and unfortunately the heartman is the only one that can give them to me but he’s stuck in the past.
Amazing that Bret didn't think the Steve Austin match needed to happen, and he was dragging his feet before it, only for it to become the greatest Wrestlemania match ever.
Bret said " I loved working with steve, I wanted to be the one who made steve" Well in my eye you are the one that made steve. If there's one iconic image of steve austin, it's the one with him in the sharp shooter with blood pouring down his face refusing to tap out. That was the night steve became the steve austin that everyone loved. And you did that.
Bret did get Stone Cold over at Survivor Series 1996 and Wrestlemaina 13 in 1997..and of course Steve got himself over with his promos Austin 3:16 ..which led to being King of the Ring, IC champion, Tag Team champion, and the WWF(WWE) championship from 1997 to 1998..( p.s. in fact Bret Hart wanted to lose his title to Stone Cold but Montreal happened and the rest is history)
The iconic thing about that image is the way the blood is pouring down Austin’s face. And the ironic thing is, Bret is the one who bladed him, and he botched it. If he hadn’t there would not have been the amount blood, thus the image might not be remembered the way it is. Just another example of the amount of happy accidents that occurred between 97-01 that made that era incredible
@@TaniasUncle nah. You don't get it. He was a heel prior. That match played a double turn that garnered him fan support as a face. WWF was face driven, and heel heat. WCW was driven off heel star power. That match absolutely mattered in how things turned out for Steve.
That's ironic that Bret said that submission matches are boring... when his finisher is a submission. Austin DID have a submission. The year before he was using the Million Dollar Dream.
@@michaelmfwayneexactly. If its just your finisher you'll use it once, maybe twice in a match and rely on pinfalls for that quick drama and reversal of flow. You never know when a match can end. In a submission match youre putting it over and over again (say 6 to 10 times), having your opponent try to get to the ropes or fight out of it which slows down the match.
False narrative that people that hated Shawn love to push, literally Shawn got the title and right after Kevin Nash & Scott Hall go to WCW and the NWO takes off while Shawn is being forced to have a little old man follow him everywhere and carry the company pretty much on his own Vs the NWO, when he turned face after the Diesel mania match he was white hot and a combination of wwf crappy creative and wcw getting hot is what held him back
Shawn was a popular star but being a popular star doesn’t always mean you are a draw. When Shawn was champion, WWF/WWE dropped in ratings and lost money. This is when NWO became the biggest thing in wrestling during that time
@@anthonycairo9202Bret was just as responsible for that. Probably even more. He was the face of the era that saw WWFs huge downturn and the rise of WCW. Bret’s run is what led to the spiral. It didn’t just happen overnight when HBK became champ
Here's what happened in a nutshell, Bret thought he could use WCW as leverage in an attempt to get what he really desired .... a title victory over Shawn at Mania. Bret got duped. In order to get Bret signed in late 96 Vince let Bret go on believing he was actually going over on Shawn for the title at mania, but in reality Vince was never actually going to go with Bret's idea in the end. Classic Vince, sell you the world, make promises, tell you what you want to hear, then change plans on you.
OK, so Bret Hart is either lying in this interview or he lied in his book. Because in his book Bret tells the story of Vince informing him that he would wrestle Shawn BUT it wasn't going to be a title match.
@@crispycruiser4654Literally no one lies more than Hogan. I mean there's compilations on YT people have made of all the lies Hogan's told over his career. Stop the cap.
He even kept it up and trashed Michaels in the Calgary Sun when he was exploring going to WCW. I like a lot of Bret’s matches. But I suspect he may be someone undiagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. Hallmark of ppl with NPD is inability to accept responsibility or fault for their actions, grandiose egos, and always playing the victim card.
@@TronBonneVonne I would say Shawn Michaels is an overt narcissist. I think Shawn is/was more openly manipulative. But Shawn Michaels has taken a lot more responsibility for his behavior than Bret has. Even Bret’s book was a love letter to himself and he always seemed to have a way to justify everything he did. When he talked about his affairs, he’d say something like, “I was away from home so much. Julie and I werent getting along. It was only natural for me to escape my problems at home.”
I love Bret but seriously! “Hey Shawn, here’s the plan. I’m going to submit you and then flip you off in your face at Wrestlemania after your long year run with the belt. How’s that catch ya?”
I'd say it'd be justified considering how Shawn literally told Bret to "get tf outta my ring" right after Bret put him over in the Ironman match they had.
@@aaronneville1164 Yes, obviously as that's literally what Bret said in this video clip. However, what does that have to do w/ my point of Shawn's actions after the match @WM12? Was that a work too, or was that Shawn being Shawn?
@@aaronneville1164 No I'm not reading too much into it. And you didn't answer my question. Was Shawn telling Bret to gtfo of his ring a work also, or Shawn being who he was at the time? It's a really simple question to answer.
With all due respect to Bret, I don’t think he’s taking Shawn’s feelings at the time into account. From Shawn’s perspective, he had spent his entire career up to 96 being pass over for bigger/stronger guys and only being there to put them over and be their stunt dummy essentially. Bret was older, so HBK spent a lot of time putting him over too, especially when he was champion, a spot shawn wanted. He worked hard for that win at Mania 12. Now that his reign isn’t drawing ratings, it’s makin him stressed and now comes Bret talking about putting him over once again and also being told to let Bret say these things about him and Bret doesn’t seem to have allowed much room for HBK to respond to those disses, so he would essentially shoot on him in response and that pissed Bret off. “How’d you know I was in that girlie magazine?”
@@peacepunksean1942 If you think pills and cocain make your feelings go away I don't actually think you've abused either. What you're saying is actually pretty disturbing to me, because all I herd was " Shawn was a drug addict in those years, so he wasn't really a human and didn't deserve to be treated like one. " Addiction is a disease, it's not an addicts fault they are an addict. It's PHYSICALLY rewired brain networks that induce repeated symptoms. It's not imaginary. Look into any of the modern science and you would see that's exactly how it's treated. From a recovering heroin addict.
Yeah kinda sucked for both shawn and Bret. Obviously WCW was just doing more interesting things but the ratings will always be put on the champ. So you right I'm sure shawn didn't want to just be passed over again, for things that weren't his fault, now that he was champ. Brett definitely got lied to which happens all the time in wrestling but still sucks as the person being lied too. Wish these two would of had a longer rivalry at the top of the card instead of Brett leaving and shawn blowing his back out. That's IF they didn't kill each other back stage lol. Could of been great storylines with all their history together, plus two of the best in the ring of all time...dam we missed out on some great matches.
It was a TERRIBLE idea, poor Shawn. Not only was he carrying the company the whole year prior, but ratings were down so he was probably feeling like shit because of it, then Bret tries to pull this on him. I don't blame him either.
Bret says Shawn wasn’t drawing, but doesn’t mention that wcw continued to beat wwf with Bret as champion after he won the belt at summer slam either. Bret wasn’t going head to head with the NWO in his first reign as champion like Shawn did. And let’s not forget Shawn and dx were a huge part in wwf finally getting back on top in the ratings
@@OptimusPrimeribsseeing how his career turned out in WCW Bret was 💯 right to want to return to WWF. He wouldn’t have had that career ending injury and would of had so many more classic matches.
A huge part of narrative missing here. In general wrestling ratings across the board were higher in those days than they are today. This is because wrestling rating tend to be made up of three components - 1. Hardcore fans of a particular company. 2. Hardcore wrestling fans in general who watch everything wrestling. 3. The mass audience who just like entertainment and will gravitate toward that, not caring deeply about wrestling generally. Today, we ONLY have two of those viewerships because wrestling is dead (not just dying - fully dead) to the mass audience. But back then there was very much still that mass audience. And the ratings shift that happened can be almost directly attributable to the emergence of NWO and huge increase in quality of WCW programming at that time, hence the mass audience finding it more entertaining as an overall product. It had pretty much nothing to do with what Shawn, Bret, Undertaker or anyone else was or wasn't doing on the WWF side of things, it was ENTIRELY to do with what was happening with the overall product, and what WCW was doing that was more gritty and felt 'real'. People who use the whole 'champion wasn't drawing' angle tend to be clueless as to the reality of the broader context.
"Shawn didn't draw", he completely ignores the fact that Hall and Nash just left. So you have no razor ramon, no diesel, and no Bret Hart and the ratings were supposed to improve? Lol.
To be fair I've heard Nash talk plenty of S#!t about Bret too. Who knows maybe irl they think it's hilarious, or maybe they hate each other? Who really knows.
Where did he bash nash lol in this, hes just saying how vince said that ratings were down when nash was champ, did he say nash smells like dirty socks? No he didn't.
Sooo you're saying that story with Shawn and Bret having the trilogy and eventually teaming up never happened... Until 2022-2024 with Cody and Seth😳😳. Think about it, 2nd generation superstar comes back to the company, has a banger trilogy with the hottest act in the company, then eventually they come to terms on a team up later on! Perfect 1 to 1 and it just shows us how much Triple H truly knows the business very well.
Bret Hart thinking that Making Shawn submit, break his arm and then flip him the finger would excite Shawn Michaels is so naive. The only thing missing to completely humiliate the guy would have been urinating on him as he was begging for mercy. Also Bret Hart is the same guy who refused to take the Jacknife PowerBomb from Diesel before his match with the undertaker, saying " What's in it for me? " Not getting pinned, God forbid, just taking the power bomb to make Diesel look strong before he loses to the undertaker. Bret Hart complaining about Shawn not wanting to look weak is so hypocritical.
That's a build up to make Bret turn heel and give even more sympathy to Shawn, until the 3rd encounter where Shawn comes out as a clean winner and Bret admits his defeat, turning him baby face again. It makes a lot of sense and it's a great story.
Plans change. Hogan and Bret had creative control. Even if you don't see how submitting in the middle of the ring after Bret Hart breaks your leg and shows you the middle finger. No guarantee Bret Hart would follow through on his promise, and knowing Bret Hart he would come up with an ending that would Make himself looking better than Shawn. The Guy refused to lose in Canada and refused to take the Jack knife Power bomb from Diesel because there was nothing in it for him. If you don't see how much of a hypocrite Bret Hart was, you are just drinking the Kool-Aid . @@gary6754
Bret saying Shawn didn't draw, is him conveniently forgetting that from Survivor Series '96 (November, when he returned) to June/July '97 (HBK returning after a 6 month absence ) and up till November '97 (Survivor Series again), he was either there without Shawn (Jan to June/July '97) OR he was there as Champion (primarily August to November '97) - AND RAW WAS STILL LOSING IN THE RATINGS. So you didn't draw either Bret. No one had the answer to the NWO, and that's a fact. At least in '97 there was a good roster. In '96 Shawn had to pretty much hold it together all by himself. Austin, despite what people think, wasn't a thing until late '96, and not from right after KOTR - it was a slow build. HHH was irrelevant, and so was the Rock until mid/late '97. Taker and Mankind feud was ok. Only Vader and Sid brought hype - albeit periodically, and also, can't believe I'm going to say this, Ahmed. Additionally, in '95 you had Diesel, Razor, Luger, and Bret was there as well. Michael's (with the those mentioned above and the level of help they brought), had to pretty much go against the juggernaut that was the NWO. Why do people always conveniently forget the above narrative when talking about '96? Yes, it was a terrible year - probably the worst of the 90's, but lets not pretend we don't know why that was so, and further lets not forget what kept the WWF from totally tanking.
Yeah exactly, nobody was beating the nWo. The roster was so thin in WWE, yet WCW's roster kept introducing stars practically every single week. Nobody could draw during that era.
@immabarbiegirl2227they actually started booing Shawn in 96 after 5 months sid was already over by survivor series so u don't know what you are talking about
I'm sure I read from ''dirt sheets'' that if Bret vs HBK at Mania had happened , then it would have been Austin vs Taker on the card . wonder if the streak would even have been a thing had these matches happened .
I like how everyone talks about how hard addiction in the wrestling business is and how we need to help people, except when it comes to HBK. The man was DEEP in addiction and everyone just shits on him. The irony is all of this shit from nearly 30 years ago still upsets bitter Bret but HBK doesn’t seem to care. He’s acknowledged his mistakes made amends and moved on.
@@FredCracklin exactly. Scott Hall had an addiction problem too. Look what he and Kevin Nash did in WCW. I love how Nash got on the shoot bandwagon years ago to try and justify their political maneuvering when part of it was being driven by two of his drunk, drugged up boyfriends.. oops I mean best friends. Shane Douglas, Chris Cándido, Bam Bam Bigelow, Tracey Smothers-and many others, and, ultimately Bret Hart, had every right to feel screwed over by these dudes.
@danielsalinas6683 during that time period everyone always said triple h was the level headed guy in the group. He apparently talked them down from doing a lot of shit.
The problem with Bret Hart is that he actually believed wrestling was real and never saw it for what it was and still is...entertainment! Business entertainment. Shawn Michaels said it better than anyone else..."Hitman you actually think all this is yours ". His rivalry with hbk was legendary and could have been even bigger if they could see each other eye to eye.
When you have zero knowledge about history. You don’t know what the Hart Dynasty meant and in which environment Hart grew up. What wrestling meant back in the day and what it meant to the wrestlers. He is one of the few wrestling’s royalty survivors.
@@Jcrash71 I think he talking actual submissions not past the basic chinlock hold etc, which would make sense as Austin was never that type of Wrestler
Only enhancement talent (tomato cans/jobbers) would submit to the million dollar dream. A mid carder MIGHT pass out and not raise their arm after 3 drops. A top guy would never do either. Shit move and not useful in that match
@@hockeyguy2005 it was Hogan's fault for not wanting to do the 3 match program. Hogan got butt hurt when HBK did the Larry King promo spoofing Hogan even though Hogan gave HBK permission to do it. Hogan only wanted to do the 1 match and faked an injury so that's the reason Shawn made Hogan look like a fool in that match with his Mr. Perfect selling he did.
@@fmthebaron no it was Shawn michaels fault, Shawn Michaels is an overrated pre-madonna little bitch, and was worse at backstage politics than the false narrative of Hogan.
@@hockeyguy2005wrong. It’s hogan who cut the program after he won . And Shawn flopping around literally made that match . It would of been a snooze fest if he didn’t
He and Shawn have publically and privately made up, why is he still so bitter, unless he actually just hasn't forgiven anyone, I love brets work, but he has always come across as such a bitter old man to me and that really dampers him to me
People constantly ask him about the worst things that happen to him. Imagine if everywhere you went people constantly reminded you about tragic events in your life. Blame the interviewers for asking the same questions.
I like Bret as a wrestler but the way he always has to take shot at everyone. He talks like anytime the belt wasn't on him the ratings dropped. Even when he talks about people he likes he makes it sound like he was the reason that guy made it. The ego is just wild even if there's maybe some truth to it. Yeah nash didn't draw in 95 but ain't like Bret drew when he held the belt for a few months at end of 95 or summer 97
Man if I had a nickel for every stale internet take on Bret I could retire. If the business had more actually honest people like Bret who took themselves and the business seriously we wouldn't be stuck watching AEW's gymnastics routines and maybe some people would actually still watch wrestling. Bless this man.
Vince dropped the ball leaving Bret go at the height of his career in many ways. 97 was Brets greatest year his mic skills were insanely good he had heat with everyone, the Canadian/U.S rivalry was genius it was still gaining momentum. The biggest shame in wrestling is Bret gone from WWF in 1997 and prematurely ending his career. Love these interview clips!
@@gingerrevenger9718definitely, and even though the WWF did greater numbers they missed out on what Bret could offer, he’d have gotten even more guys over etc.
@@kamfisher1714it’s not just about the numbers, Bret had a lot more to offer snd he’d have gotten even more guys over etc. He was a valuable asset that the WWF lacked even in its height.
Brett and Shawn buried the hatchet, and this guy is still bitter. "So my plan was to beat him." Not absolving Shawn from being a complete douche at the time, but Brett is still a mark for himself and still holds grudges for things that were supposed to be apologized for.
“Take responsibility”, for what, doing the right thing and being ethical in almost every situation? Dude was a company man, who didn’t let anyone disrespect him. Vince, Shawn and other don’t have any integrity.
Just cuz Shawn apologized doesn’t mean Bret has to like him and be happy about what happened “bcuz he apologized”. Bret taking responsibility? He was screwed, Bret lost to Shawn happily, even back when they were in the intercontinental division, Bret had lost the belt to him. But shawn could never lose to Bret. He doesn’t act like a saint, he was a saint in the wrestling business.
hbk already admitted he was an asshole and lied about the montreal screwjob bret is just telling his story thats all no bitterness AND his story never changed
No way would top babyface HBK ever lose by submission in the Sharpshooter during that time. In other shoot interviews Bret also claimed he was going to beat (at their peak) Ultimate Warrior and Hulk Hogan with the Sharpshooter as well which the fans would never buy that either. I don't know what Bret's obsession is with him thinking he's going to beat the Top Faces of the company by submission with the Sharpshooter when it's never going to happen that way.
It’s sucks what happened to Bret and have his career end abruptly. Wish we could’ve seen him wrestle in the 2000’s maybe even a last match at Saudi. Dudes been through so much, respect to the Hitman.
How about no matches ever again in Saudi Arabia. That deal is morally wrong. Have folks forgotten? I question what propaganda is being pushed through youths minds. Bret Hitman was a super chraclrater because he was this little pink warrior who would go out and battle for what je believed was just. Even when he was wrong, his character was justified in the Hitnans mind. Now there are no good guys ro root for. The ones that they want folks to cheer are so sinful that we cannot.ever truely get behind them. The led screens are also.junky looking along with the on screen graphics. There is no Bob Baclunds or American heros. Too many monster men, or selfish jerks. No body feels real as a grappler. Shamrock Blockmon, Furnace and La Fong. Good old Nicky Bockwinkle had class. Heck even Tace as tuff as he was demanded resoect. Now its goofs w scribble scrabble all over em. I think its Gone. All my favorites are gone. Maybe more important things to.do now a days . Nintendo and westling seem less important.
Bret is seriously one of the best to EVER lace a pair of boots in wrestling and I love watching his matches………… But FFS MAN!!!! Please deflate the ego just a bit!!! He really believes that much in himself, and that’s not a bad thing, until it gets to the point you thinking you are literally the best at everything 😂
When there's so much turmoil in the world it's comforting to know that somewhere Bret Hart will STILL be fucking moaning about his wrestling career. It's the universal constant.
Bret is so funny. The reason why he lost the belt to Shawn was because he wasn’t drawing and to think he should get paid Hogan money proves he is the most over in his own head. I also doubt he wanted to be a hell but I know, I know…..Bret tells no lies, right?
Bret had every right to ask for watever he wanted , he and Shawn didn’t draw because of the opponent’s they were given to tangle with . Perfect was done , razor was gone , rude was shelved Jake was washed , bulldog was struggling , hunter wasn’t a thing , there literally was no dance partners to put on a show with .
Well, I can see Shawn's perspective of not wanting to put Bret over. From 1992 to 1997, it feels like being (somewhat) permanent second fiddle, if Bret won at WrestleMania 13. WM 13 would have worked, if Bret won and he lost at Summer Slam or something (as he suggests). Alternately, Bret should have lost WM 13, and the frustration of the guard changing could be built up for bout 3, which could have gone to Bret, but with Steve Austin maybe souring the victory, so that sets up the pathway for SCSA anyway?
@@user-li3fr8jl3b Second fiddle to Bret. Not unto himself. By 1994, if Bret was 1, Shawn was 2. But, by 1995, Shawn was 1.5. By 1996, they were on par. So, for Shawn to lose again in 1997, after the one high, would feel off? Especially at WrestleMania? Shawn deserved WM13, imo. Then, it plays further into his arrogant 'you're old news' attitude towards Bret, which could be leveraged for the next bout. For once, it's Bret who would have to prove to Shawn, that he can take him out. That sorta thing.
@@user-li3fr8jl3b of course, the ideal is that Bret, Shawn and SCSA all worked through 1998. But that may have been too much mega wattage to accommodate? Bret would have moulded into different programs, but Shawn would likely not. He was in that imperial main event phase, but well...we'll never know.
19:16 but after mania 13 the submission match was all anyone could talk about so it became the main event I don’t think anybody says and no offense to taker or sid but that match isn’t remembered for being anything but 1 in the streak
Bret needs to include himself when talking about champions that didn't draw. His lack of ability to draw as champion in 94 led to WWE choosing not to feature him as the headliner of the pay per views.
The cold hard truth is after Hogan and before Austin none of them drew big $. Yoko, Bret, Diesel, Shawn, Sid and even Taker all struggled while business kept going downhill. It wasn't until Fall 97, led by the Montreal screwjob, that the WWF started to net positive and then exploded with Austin as their top act despite WCW still growing in popularity.
Hard to draw against WcW by 96 though. Still I go back and watch Brett's matches from 94-96 he was killing it in the ring. Most WWF Story lines sucked/Suck hard to pin that on him. He was one of the few highlights they still had going on.
disagree. Bret was definitely the biggest draw out of all those tops guy between hogan's era and austin. definitely not as big of a draw than hogan or austin in the USA but internationally im pretty sure Bret is only second to hogan during the 90's. Austin was a huge U.S attraction and the rock was both a huge U.S attraction and international@@robgbaby
If Shawn never lost his smile Steve would of never gotten that big turning match that made him Stone Cold. Many say he became Stone cold when he did the 3:16 promo, but me, I remember the Ironman match with Brett that made him Stone Cold.
if you look at shawn's early days in wrestling he was around a lot of top guys who vacated the belt off not wanting to put anyone over, that's where he got that from.. there is a video about it somewhere maybe its still on yt i dunno
Don't care what anyone says Bret Hart is an incredible storyteller. He literally was a giving person and tried to help Shawn become baby-face. What an idiot for Shawn Michaels for not accepting the idea.
You are absolutely, Bret was a incredible storyteller, it is just too bad that all of his stories were fiction as he stumbled thru his promos like a drunk frat boy. His skills started and stopped in the ring before and after the bell rang. Once you put a mic in his hands he became a baboon. Even this interview is filled with crap boring stories that is just putting people to sleep.
Nobody ever thought other wise. Of course Hitman is topps. That's why we turned WWF on when he returned. Then we met that man Punk and he was super, did not smoke or drink. A man you.can respect a bit. A nice change from the phonies.
@@LordAbaddonBret has admitted he was not the best on the mic. For him it depends on what the story is going to be. I think definitely 1997 when he became a heel again with the whole New Hart Foundation across the US was the best.
Right, else where he praises the match and this is The match that Wrestlemania XIII is remembered for, the rest of the ppv stunk. I'm surprised Bret was like of just "meh" about this match, I guess that's because his heart was set on regaining the title back from Shawn, something he didn't say here, which is in his book is about them promising Shawn a long title reign, much like they did Diesel and Hart before him, sadly he didn't draw, and alot of that wasn't even on Shawn, he didn't have alot of strong opponents to work with, and the whole thing with Vader (Who he didn't want to work with) would have been a great opponent for him but it didn't work out. Nash had the same problem in 1995, he didn't have enough strong heels to work against, which is part of the reason why his WWF title reign didn't go so well, not to mention business being down all around in 1995.
I kinda hate how they always say, “when Shawn lost his smile”. The real reason, whether you believe it or not, was that he had a knee injury. You can say the injury was fake, but he never relinquished the belt just because he “lost his smile”.
That may be, but he definitely was not keen on the idea of dropping the belt back to Bret. Or probably dropping it to anyone for that matter. Thus why the 'career ending' all of a sudden went out of it soon as he no longer had to, and it's also a big co-incidence that the back injury miraculously healed up soon as his contract was up and Vince no longer had to pay him. In all seriousness though, his 2002-10 run was arguably the best of his career. And, him and Bret leaving was probably what allowed Rock & Austin to shine like they did from late-98 on. Side note: there was also massive issues with getting him to drop the belt to Austin at the following years Mania. Moral of the story, Shawn was a prick back then.
@@TonySpike Like it or not that’s literally not true. If you actually watch the promo before Shawn even says anything Vince says, “You are facing a KNEE OPERATION I wonder if you’d share with the fans all around the world what’s going through your head.” Then one of the first things outta Shawn’s mouth is, “I never had a doctor look me in the face and say that I may never be able to wrestle again.” He says again, “I don’t know where im at right how… I may be beyond reconstructive KNEE SURGERY” Then finally he ends his speech with the famous line, “I’m gonna go back home and see what’s left for me. I’ve lost a lot of things and one of them has been my smile.” Either you don’t know what kayfabe means, you never actually saw the promo, or you’re an idiot. Again, you can say he’s lying. That’s fine. He probably is lying, but the whole “lost my smile” thing got repeated so much that idiots like you think that was the official “kayfabe” reason for him dropping the belt.
@@TonySpikeI mean, you're factually wrong, you clearly have never actually seen the full segment otherwise you wouldn't have written your comment that is so easily disprovable.
"I wanted to make him tap, break his arm, then make him look like a loser by giving him the finger. They got mad I wanted to completely bury their top guy." Typical Bret Hart delusional nonsense.
@@Shiva-Kumar138Sure. When Shawn getting completely buried by Bret pushed him back down the card, Bret would've backed out of the third match, too. He's an egomaniac, just like Shawn. They're exactly the same, and that's why they hate each other. They'd both fuck over their mother to be the top guy. Difference is, Bret acts like he's some kind of role model. Shawn admits to his shit.
Man’s entire legacy is now reduced to talking shit about backstage politics from 30 years ago and making sure to drag Shawn even though Shawn’s been sober and a better person for like 20.
C'mon now Bret, You mean to tell me that a POTENTIAL "championship" win over Shawn at Mania was all it took to convince you to turn down WCW's offer of a higher salary AND lighter work schedule ?!? Seriously?! Mentality of a true MARK.
That's why Nash and Hall didn't want him as champion. They knew they were not gonna be the guy, but Bret was willing to take less money if it meant him being the guy. Yeah, HBK was their friend, but he was also someone who demanded money, and that meant they could ask for more. In WCW, they had no problem with Hogan making bank cause that just kept raising the pay ceiling.
If Bret were being fully honest, him not wanting to go to WCW probably had a lot to do with his soured relationship with Hulk Hogan and knowing how much stroke Hulk had with WCW….and Bret would be 100% correct if that’s what was going through his head back then. And this is probably why he told Bishoff that he wanted Hulk’s pay plus one penny.
I am from watching this generation of wrestling or the tail end of the feud and have only followed parts since, so excuse me if I miss or had missed something. But the bottom line of the whole feud seems to be money orientated and not so much about following storyline/theme. As Bret mentioned here, his contract is up (according to him they did not know), but look at it from Vinces perspective, we paid Shaun recently, and Bret will want to top that price as he would have serious leverage to do so, as in his contracts up and has the "belt".
@4:25 Two Truths here. Bret Hart never wanted to go to WCW, but he'd use the "WCW Threat Card" whevenever he could to benefit himself. 2nd truth, Bret Hart admitting he had leverage in the WWF and that he used it to his advantage - Funny how he sh*ts on Shawn Michaels for doing the exact same thing. Did you know that the reason Bret Hart left the WWF to go to WCW is because he used the "WCW threat Card" once too often and McMahon told him to go to WCW? Funny how the deal he got at WCW was the same deal he threatened McMahon with when he played his final "WCW Threat Card". Did you know that McMahon did not break any contract with Bret Hart - his contract was being played out in Wrestling With Shadows. Bret can be seen discussing the contract and whether to sign it or not with his then wife Julie. In Wrestling With Shadows you also get to hear how Bret approached McMahon and begged him to keep him at the WWF and how McMahon refused. Bret Hart is simply full of bullsh*t. He lies and whines and bitches and moans and blames anyone and everyone for all the things that never went Bret Hart's way - it's never Bret's fault it's always someone elses; like it was his Wife's fault for all the affairs he had - a wife who was raising four kids on her own while he was having an affair in every port of call. I think anyone who respects Bret Hart on a personal level need to check themselves. There's not a lot to respect.
In fairness, another match with Shawn for the belt would have been just another match. The match with Steve Austin was a classic and one of the best of all time. People still talk about his match with Steve. 25+ years later, who cares if he won the belt back? Bret got screwed in other ways, but not working with Shawn at WM13 turned out to be the best thing possible. Those who know wrestling will remember the I Quit Match as an instant classic.
Bret was 5-1 in singles matches against HBK before Survivor Series 1997. He had beaten him clean multiple times between 1992-1995. Shawn owed Bret absolutely nothing. These rivalries don't have to be 50/50 booking 100% of the time. Triple H put over Batista 3x in a row. Undertaker put over Kane 3x in a row in 2010 because up to that point, Undertaker was also something like 5-1 against Kane having dominated their prior rivalries. Timing is everything and Bret was leaving the company while DX was a counter to the NWO. But Bret treated this as a real championship, and he disrespected the business, and it's shameful being the son of Stu Hart. You go out on your back. You don't get to put a bunch of caveats and hedges on it. I will only lose to this guy, in this country, on this night, when you only have days left at the company. You listen to your boss, and he had the chance to give Shawn and DX a mega rub and extra heel heat in Canada on his way out, and he refused. The same thing he's been crying about Hulk Hogan not doing for him for 30 years (and make no mistake, Hogan absolutely should've put Bret over at SummerSlam 1993, I'm only pointing out Bret's hypocrisy.). Now Bret is lying claiming it wasn't about losing to Shawn in Canada when there's video evidence on TH-cam of him saying it on a Canadian TV show that that's exactly what it was about. He's even taken to throwing his dead brother in law under the bus to take all the credit for SummerSlam 1992, wildly exaggerating the state Davey was in and claiming it was a 45 minute match instead of the 24 it actually was. Bret thinks that every match in his career is his best match, and emphasis on HIS best match, not the other guy's. So sad to see what Bret's reduced to.
Bret Heart is one of the most decent men in wrestling. Everything he says he has backed up with so many other people in the business have backed up. He was and still is a proper pro. Knowing losing is just as much as winning and building characters and having great matches.
Not just with Bret but for WWF as a whole 97 was the best year. Creatively on the mic and in the ring it just seemed thats where not only turned the corner but peakes and the WWF was able to ride that creat through the attitude era. Mick got over with those sitdown Jim Ross interviews. Pillman was gold on the mic. Austin was peaking, Michaels was strung out on the junk but he could still go. Sid and Taker were both hot. LOD was back and over. The heel Godwins are pretty underrated. Chyna came in and just looked so different and was over almost instantly and HHH was able to get a ton of heat. Owen and Bulldog were really good in their roles. Vader had trimmed down and he was putting people over but they still treated him like a monster. But 97 and 92 were probably the two best years for Bret both in the ring and on the mic
Yeah was great, WWF was really under pressure from WCW in '97 and came up with some good stuff. It was the year that WWF was bought back to TV in New Zealand.
The wrestlemania 13 match between Brett Hart and Stone cold it’s probably one of the greatest matches of all time. It’s the only wrestling match in history to have a double turn. Bret heart did make Stone Cold Steve Austin that night. That is the match that propelled Austin‘s career without it I don’t think everything goes quite the same. This is another feather in the cap of why the hitman is the greatest professional wrestler ever. no one even comes close. And it also proves that the wrestling in the ring was far superior than any storyline. Think about it today’s age uses storylines to turn people good to bad, bad good but Brett hart was so good. He used his wrestling to do it.
Shawn made the ratings stay great, dont know what Brett is smoking. HBK mania was everywhere before Shawn retired from injury. WCW just did better & had more stars plus better story lines on a whole for awhile.
I dont remember a single thing during 1995 or 1996 that didnt include bret hart. Shawns supposed best years were still unmemorable which proves why the WCW took over right when they handed HBK the torch. However, 1993 and 1994 were dominated by the hitman, even the retarded PWI scale says so which just proves even more how big bret was and how big of a draw he was, although not on hogan or austins level, but definitely the biggest draw out of guys like diesel, hbk and taker during 1993-1996
Gosh why do we keep hearing his damn grievances, it's a broken record already! time to move on Already. How meny times do we have to go through his bitterness and past. It's tiring and boring already. Okay Bret we've heard this again and again...meanwhile Shawn Michaels has moved on well the Marks hang on to the past and get angry over shit that never affect their lives personally. Can we hear the man says positive things and reminisce about his great career moments. There is a new regime now....just move on already.
So essentially Brett wanted to do the Kurt and Brock angle when they were claiming to be buddy’s but just one upping each other. I think it would’ve been great and bring out Michael’s comedic side a bit earlier in his career
Going to call it now. Bret's full of shit because this is the first time ANYONE heard this part of the story. Before that, he claimed he found out weeks before Mania
I'll give Shawn this, at least he owns up to his behavior in the 90's. Bret on the other hand still talks like a jilted lover who can't get over being dumped for someone else.
I work night shift and I have a lot of ass time at work and it gets pretty boring. I love pulling Bret hart interviews and I can listen to him talk and tell stories all night long. It’s amazing how down to earth and fan interactive he is. He truly loves wrestling. A genuinely good guy!
@chuckbuskee I think he is honest about how he feels but he is less than honest about his own mistakes and mishaps. Little to no accountability. You can’t be a saint in every story!
Did Vince McMahon drop the ball with Bret Hart's full potential? Let us know in the comments below!
YES!!!!!!!
It Proves it, with Austin, NOBODY could make that work, Unless steve worked with Bret, JUST LOOK WHAT HAPPENED INIT,
Bret came back and worked a hell of a match, with Steve at survivor series1996???
Yesss
He didnt just drop the ball, he may have even swallowed
Imagine being a fellow passenger on that plane ride with hbk and Bret talking over plans for extending their feud 😮 now that would've been a great conversation to over hear
Eves drop*
I am going to silently read the pamphlet in the seat for the next 5 hours
@@Station9.75 *Eavesdrop
@@Station9.75eavesdrop*
I enjoyed 1996 & 1997 mainly due to the fact that Bret, Shawn & Taker were the big 3 and carrying the company during that period. WCW was whipping their asses, but Bret, Shawn & Taker delivered some classic matches and rivalries during that time. Sometimes I wish I could’ve been a fly on the wall backstage during that time 😩
Surprisingly they had Stone Cold…HHH…and The Rock too at that time but haven’t quite popped yet. And they had mankind, Kane & new age outlaws
Wwf was always better
Don’t forget Sid
@@brettmajors69karaoke they shudda trade out Ken Shamrock & bring Doink back at that time
1997 is my favorite year of professional wrestling. I love the end days of the new generation era
1:44 So many people have said this about Vince, he really is a living incarnation of J. Jonah Jameson LMAO
I never thought about that!! Spot-on comparison!!😮
“You’re fired! , oh wait, you’re unfired come here!” Lol
"I want the exact same pay as Hulk Hogan, plus one penny." LMAO
I lol'ed at that one
And was never one penny the draw Hogan was.
I do think that if you were able to get to Bret and Shawn teaming up together after climbing the ranks together from tag to IC to the World title, it would've been a crazy story. I can't think of a time I saw them actually team up together I'm sure they did but yeah, that would've been cool if it played out that way.
pretty sure they did once in 1995, when Shawn had turned face again
Thats right 1995 tag team bret hart and hbk vs jerry lawler and the other guy
Was it hakushi? I think on raw?@@cirillamande8243
WCW was also going live on Nitro while Raw was still taped and that the whole NWO thing was going on. So, it could be anyone in history who was champion, at that point in time WCW was going to be winning in ratings until things changed. And Bret being off tv the whole time it was happening didn't help either really.
nWo didn't start until the July after Wrestlemania
and Bret didn't come back on TV until well after it started...
Agree here. It wasn't really due to Shawn. Anyone would have had the same issue. Other than Austin lol.
Yeah bret could've been the 3rd nerd in the nwo aka wcw! Just imagine bret not taking a 7 month vacation in 96!!?? On 1996 ppv: kotr 96, summerslam 96, etc. bret vs Vader, bret vs mankind, etc
Why didn't bret replace warrior at July 96 iyh??!!
Vince dropped the ball by letting the inmates run the prison. Michaels v Hart could have been the greatest rivalry of all time.
Clearly he did not, they were his stooges all the while.
I mean, in a lot of ways it WAS one of the greatest rivalries of all time.
Just not for the intended reasons.
Already is
It is the greatest rivalry of all time.
Only Austin v Mr McMahon gets close
Good thing it actually was one of the greatest rivalries of all time. I swear people on the internet have no IQ.
NWO is the hottest thing in wrestling in 1996, with all due respect to Bret, even if he was champion in 1996 the WWF would still lose to WCW
Looking back now the NWO was only good for maybe that solid year but dragged out for years to come. It should of stayed a smaller group like DX did. Would of made it better over time but it just got stupid and Austin and Rock/DX too just got bigger and better by 1998. The Shield had a longer healthier tenure in the first wave before Seth betrayed over the NWO. They were just letting everyone in that
Yeah but in his defense he was better with wwf. His storyline was good.
@@davidkruse4030 he didn't draw tho
If the NWO was so great what the hell happened? How did the WCW lost everything to WWF??
@@willpowerrazorblade6436 Because running something into the ground even if amazing can only last so long withou changing/adapting. WWF had the ultimate heel in Vince which was even better than the NWO
I want the same money as hogan plus one penny
Bischoff: Bret go home you’re drunk
I can’t stop laughing! Great comment! 😆
he didn't care he was playing with Ted Turner's money
Consider this: When Bret was champion, Shawn, Razor and Diesel were there in support roles, helping ratings. When Shawn was champ, those 3 were gone, and 2 of them were heavily featured on the competition.
You also have to consider the fact that when Bret was champion wrestling as a whole was going through a rough patch and he was trying to live up to much bigger names.
So basically 1997 WWF was suppose to be Hitman Vs HBK Vs Stone cold?? I’d kill to see that play out
We pretty much did.
At 15:56 “This will really break his heart when I say this on tv.” He’s the heart break kid! Lol. But we’re all still human beings and some words? Become fight words. It’s ironic Bret talked about breaking Shawn’s heart.
Bret talks about like he broke Shawn's heart multiple times! Why did it only take "Sunny Days" for Bret have a mental breakdown?
@@mstancl I think the screw job was what really took him over the edge. Sadly people won’t keep talking about it. I’m sure the participants are sick of hearing it. Lol
@@ezj9103 makes sense... he stuck it through until the straw on the camel's back. Got a huge paycheck from Ted Tuner and Goldberg made it easier on him.
We as humans have on average, six dreams a night but we can only remember a maximum of two of them. Bret the heartman should be more concerned with what’s going on in the other four dreams than breaking another man’s heart in 1997. I need answers and unfortunately the heartman is the only one that can give them to me but he’s stuck in the past.
@nathankirby4612 Bret's hart belongs to the kid man. I'm waiting too for him to change his black hart to loving pink once more.
the blurry line between reality and make believe of professional wrestling makes it fascinating. just like how real life truly is
Amazing that Bret didn't think the Steve Austin match needed to happen, and he was dragging his feet before it, only for it to become the greatest Wrestlemania match ever.
Greatest wrestlemania match ever. Yes!
Not better than Macho Man Vs Steamboat IMO.
@@comfortablynumblbgTriple H vs Michaels vs Benoit is Greatest wrestlemania match ever. Did you hear the pop after benoit win.
@@arslaanpasha3334Hogan vs Rock
@@mixedmartialoddest hogan vs rock was not main event
Bret said " I loved working with steve, I wanted to be the one who made steve"
Well in my eye you are the one that made steve. If there's one iconic image of steve austin, it's the one with him in the sharp shooter with blood pouring down his face refusing to tap out. That was the night steve became the steve austin that everyone loved. And you did that.
Bret did get Stone Cold over at Survivor Series 1996 and Wrestlemaina 13 in 1997..and of course Steve got himself over with his promos Austin 3:16 ..which led to being King of the Ring, IC champion, Tag Team champion, and the WWF(WWE) championship from 1997 to 1998..( p.s. in fact Bret Hart wanted to lose his title to Stone Cold but Montreal happened and the rest is history)
The iconic thing about that image is the way the blood is pouring down Austin’s face. And the ironic thing is, Bret is the one who bladed him, and he botched it. If he hadn’t there would not have been the amount blood, thus the image might not be remembered the way it is. Just another example of the amount of happy accidents that occurred between 97-01 that made that era incredible
Steve made Steve, not Bret. It was his 3:16 promo that got him so over, not a match with Bret.
@@TaniasUncle nah. You don't get it. He was a heel prior. That match played a double turn that garnered him fan support as a face. WWF was face driven, and heel heat. WCW was driven off heel star power. That match absolutely mattered in how things turned out for Steve.
😂😂Steve did that
"So Bret, I wanted to bring up Shawn..."
{Bret takes a shot of whiskey}
That's ironic that Bret said that submission matches are boring... when his finisher is a submission. Austin DID have a submission. The year before he was using the Million Dollar Dream.
My thought's exactly.
It's not ironic. It's one thing to have a submission finisher, and do an entire match around submissions.
@@michaelmfwayne smh.. I'm not even going to respond to this
@@NateNizzleyes shake your head till it is fixed
@@michaelmfwayneexactly. If its just your finisher you'll use it once, maybe twice in a match and rely on pinfalls for that quick drama and reversal of flow. You never know when a match can end. In a submission match youre putting it over and over again (say 6 to 10 times), having your opponent try to get to the ropes or fight out of it which slows down the match.
Shawn not drawing is hilarious lol… he was such a popular star!
False narrative that people that hated Shawn love to push, literally Shawn got the title and right after Kevin Nash & Scott Hall go to WCW and the NWO takes off while Shawn is being forced to have a little old man follow him everywhere and carry the company pretty much on his own Vs the NWO, when he turned face after the Diesel mania match he was white hot and a combination of wwf crappy creative and wcw getting hot is what held him back
Shawn was a popular star but being a popular star doesn’t always mean you are a draw. When Shawn was champion, WWF/WWE dropped in ratings and lost money. This is when NWO became the biggest thing in wrestling during that time
@@anthonycairo9202Bret was just as responsible for that. Probably even more. He was the face of the era that saw WWFs huge downturn and the rise of WCW. Bret’s run is what led to the spiral. It didn’t just happen overnight when HBK became champ
Bret should have a tour called "BLAST the Legends Tour"
This dude have blasted every legend possible 😂
C'mon, he hardly BLASTS him in this... 😂
Exactly.. but this is the narrative.. they say shit like this with every Bret interview. Proper two faced.
@@craigdavis5818 Clickbait, which I fell for.
Didn’t blast him at all!
Yup, he even says he can understand why Shawn might have been skeptical as a result of the multiple promos he did.
Inside The Clickbait
Here's what happened in a nutshell, Bret thought he could use WCW as leverage in an attempt to get what he really desired .... a title victory over Shawn at Mania.
Bret got duped. In order to get Bret signed in late 96 Vince let Bret go on believing he was actually going over on Shawn for the title at mania, but in reality Vince was never actually going to go with Bret's idea in the end. Classic Vince, sell you the world, make promises, tell you what you want to hear, then change plans on you.
That's why Vince is known as The Evil Genius!
For the most point your right
Sounds like the devil!!
@@kalikels ok.
@@kalikels or my ex girlfriend.
OK, so Bret Hart is either lying in this interview or he lied in his book. Because in his book Bret tells the story of Vince informing him that he would wrestle Shawn BUT it wasn't going to be a title match.
Bret lies more than Hulk Hogan but he has he loyal marks in his corner.
All he does is lie!
@@crispycruiser4654 Nobody is a mark. You just belong to one of the many hate groups the wrestling business does not need.
@@crispycruiser4654Literally no one lies more than Hogan. I mean there's compilations on YT people have made of all the lies Hogan's told over his career. Stop the cap.
It being a non title match was the idea after the 97 Rumble. Originally beforehand it was supposed to be for the title.
8.40 - "im gonna go home and act like im really mad"
Tremendous acting. Keeping it up till this day
🤣🤣
Kayfabe. Gotta keep up appearances.
He even kept it up and trashed Michaels in the Calgary Sun when he was exploring going to WCW.
I like a lot of Bret’s matches. But I suspect he may be someone undiagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. Hallmark of ppl with NPD is inability to accept responsibility or fault for their actions, grandiose egos, and always playing the victim card.
@@StuUngarShawn Michaels would then have to be an even bigger narcissist.
@@TronBonneVonne I would say Shawn Michaels is an overt narcissist. I think Shawn is/was more openly manipulative. But Shawn Michaels has taken a lot more responsibility for his behavior than Bret has.
Even Bret’s book was a love letter to himself and he always seemed to have a way to justify everything he did. When he talked about his affairs, he’d say something like, “I was away from home so much. Julie and I werent getting along. It was only natural for me to escape my problems at home.”
I love Bret but seriously! “Hey Shawn, here’s the plan. I’m going to submit you and then flip you off in your face at Wrestlemania after your long year run with the belt. How’s that catch ya?”
I'd say it'd be justified considering how Shawn literally told Bret to "get tf outta my ring" right after Bret put him over in the Ironman match they had.
@@aaronneville1164 Yes, obviously as that's literally what Bret said in this video clip. However, what does that have to do w/ my point of Shawn's actions after the match @WM12? Was that a work too, or was that Shawn being Shawn?
@@aaronneville1164 No I'm not reading too much into it. And you didn't answer my question. Was Shawn telling Bret to gtfo of his ring a work also, or Shawn being who he was at the time? It's a really simple question to answer.
Well bret was the final boss hulk hogan of that era so it makes sense
@@Crimson_Titanright because everything Bret has said is the truth right? If Bret said he punched Donald Trump in 1997 you'd believe him too right?
With all due respect to Bret, I don’t think he’s taking Shawn’s feelings at the time into account. From Shawn’s perspective, he had spent his entire career up to 96 being pass over for bigger/stronger guys and only being there to put them over and be their stunt dummy essentially. Bret was older, so HBK spent a lot of time putting him over too, especially when he was champion, a spot shawn wanted. He worked hard for that win at Mania 12. Now that his reign isn’t drawing ratings, it’s makin him stressed and now comes Bret talking about putting him over once again and also being told to let Bret say these things about him and Bret doesn’t seem to have allowed much room for HBK to respond to those disses, so he would essentially shoot on him in response and that pissed Bret off.
“How’d you know I was in that girlie magazine?”
Eh, 96/97, think shawn was to pilled or coked out to have feelings
@@peacepunksean1942 If you think pills and cocain make your feelings go away I don't actually think you've abused either. What you're saying is actually pretty disturbing to me, because all I herd was " Shawn was a drug addict in those years, so he wasn't really a human and didn't deserve to be treated like one. "
Addiction is a disease, it's not an addicts fault they are an addict. It's PHYSICALLY rewired brain networks that induce repeated symptoms. It's not imaginary. Look into any of the modern science and you would see that's exactly how it's treated.
From a recovering heroin addict.
Yeah kinda sucked for both shawn and Bret. Obviously WCW was just doing more interesting things but the ratings will always be put on the champ. So you right I'm sure shawn didn't want to just be passed over again, for things that weren't his fault, now that he was champ. Brett definitely got lied to which happens all the time in wrestling but still sucks as the person being lied too. Wish these two would of had a longer rivalry at the top of the card instead of Brett leaving and shawn blowing his back out. That's IF they didn't kill each other back stage lol. Could of been great storylines with all their history together, plus two of the best in the ring of all time...dam we missed out on some great matches.
It was a TERRIBLE idea, poor Shawn. Not only was he carrying the company the whole year prior, but ratings were down so he was probably feeling like shit because of it, then Bret tries to pull this on him. I don't blame him either.
Bret says Shawn wasn’t drawing, but doesn’t mention that wcw continued to beat wwf with Bret as champion after he won the belt at summer slam either. Bret wasn’t going head to head with the NWO in his first reign as champion like Shawn did. And let’s not forget Shawn and dx were a huge part in wwf finally getting back on top in the ratings
I swear all the wrestlers have a celebrity look alike. Bret looks like Tommy Lee jones
He looked SOO much like Don Johnson when he was younger. It’s actually insane.
No he does not
@@tygodhumbling4446no
Turning down 3mill was dumb, dude truly was a mark for the belt
He says the money was most important, but turns down 3 million to back to WWF. Was WWF going to pay him more for the long term?
@@heydudedolfan13back then tho…that was A LOT of money, so it was good either way
@@OptimusPrimeribsseeing how his career turned out in WCW Bret was 💯 right to want to return to WWF. He wouldn’t have had that career ending injury and would of had so many more classic matches.
@OptimusPrimeribs iirc he was promised Pat Patterson's spot once his career was over or something
A huge part of narrative missing here. In general wrestling ratings across the board were higher in those days than they are today. This is because wrestling rating tend to be made up of three components - 1. Hardcore fans of a particular company. 2. Hardcore wrestling fans in general who watch everything wrestling. 3. The mass audience who just like entertainment and will gravitate toward that, not caring deeply about wrestling generally.
Today, we ONLY have two of those viewerships because wrestling is dead (not just dying - fully dead) to the mass audience. But back then there was very much still that mass audience. And the ratings shift that happened can be almost directly attributable to the emergence of NWO and huge increase in quality of WCW programming at that time, hence the mass audience finding it more entertaining as an overall product. It had pretty much nothing to do with what Shawn, Bret, Undertaker or anyone else was or wasn't doing on the WWF side of things, it was ENTIRELY to do with what was happening with the overall product, and what WCW was doing that was more gritty and felt 'real'. People who use the whole 'champion wasn't drawing' angle tend to be clueless as to the reality of the broader context.
Wow....this is a really stupid post.
Thanks for the video, INSIDE THE ROPES
"Shawn didn't draw", he completely ignores the fact that Hall and Nash just left. So you have no razor ramon, no diesel, and no Bret Hart and the ratings were supposed to improve? Lol.
I love how Bret always goes out of his way to bash Kevin Nash 😂 literally nothing to do with the question that was asked 😅
To be fair I've heard Nash talk plenty of S#!t about Bret too. Who knows maybe irl they think it's hilarious, or maybe they hate each other? Who really knows.
Where did he bash nash lol in this, hes just saying how vince said that ratings were down when nash was champ, did he say nash smells like dirty socks? No he didn't.
Cause Nash always sucked 🤣🤣🤣
michaels and hart tag team wouldve been amazing
😁
Sooo you're saying that story with Shawn and Bret having the trilogy and eventually teaming up never happened... Until 2022-2024 with Cody and Seth😳😳. Think about it, 2nd generation superstar comes back to the company, has a banger trilogy with the hottest act in the company, then eventually they come to terms on a team up later on! Perfect 1 to 1 and it just shows us how much Triple H truly knows the business very well.
Bret Hart thinking that Making Shawn submit, break his arm and then flip him the finger would excite Shawn Michaels is so naive. The only thing missing to completely humiliate the guy would have been urinating on him as he was begging for mercy. Also Bret Hart is the same guy who refused to take the Jacknife PowerBomb from Diesel before his match with the undertaker, saying " What's in it for me? " Not getting pinned, God forbid, just taking the power bomb to make Diesel look strong before he loses to the undertaker. Bret Hart complaining about Shawn not wanting to look weak is so hypocritical.
That's a build up to make Bret turn heel and give even more sympathy to Shawn, until the 3rd encounter where Shawn comes out as a clean winner and Bret admits his defeat, turning him baby face again. It makes a lot of sense and it's a great story.
uh, you missed the ending to the feud where Shawn is the ultimate winner.
people only hear what they want to hear
Lmao
Plans change. Hogan and Bret had creative control. Even if you don't see how submitting in the middle of the ring after Bret Hart breaks your leg and shows you the middle finger. No guarantee Bret Hart would follow through on his promise, and knowing Bret Hart he would come up with an ending that would Make himself looking better than Shawn. The Guy refused to lose in Canada and refused to take the Jack knife Power bomb from Diesel because there was nothing in it for him.
If you don't see how much of a hypocrite Bret Hart was, you are just drinking the Kool-Aid .
@@gary6754
Bret saying Shawn didn't draw, is him conveniently forgetting that from Survivor Series '96 (November, when he returned) to June/July '97 (HBK returning after a 6 month absence ) and up till November '97 (Survivor Series again), he was either there without Shawn (Jan to June/July '97) OR he was there as Champion (primarily August to November '97) - AND RAW WAS STILL LOSING IN THE RATINGS. So you didn't draw either Bret. No one had the answer to the NWO, and that's a fact.
At least in '97 there was a good roster. In '96 Shawn had to pretty much hold it together all by himself. Austin, despite what people think, wasn't a thing until late '96, and not from right after KOTR - it was a slow build. HHH was irrelevant, and so was the Rock until mid/late '97. Taker and Mankind feud was ok. Only Vader and Sid brought hype - albeit periodically, and also, can't believe I'm going to say this, Ahmed. Additionally, in '95 you had Diesel, Razor, Luger, and Bret was there as well. Michael's (with the those mentioned above and the level of help they brought), had to pretty much go against the juggernaut that was the NWO.
Why do people always conveniently forget the above narrative when talking about '96? Yes, it was a terrible year - probably the worst of the 90's, but lets not pretend we don't know why that was so, and further lets not forget what kept the WWF from totally tanking.
Yeah exactly, nobody was beating the nWo. The roster was so thin in WWE, yet WCW's roster kept introducing stars practically every single week. Nobody could draw during that era.
Dude he said Diesel didn't draw to start with, take it easy we all know wwf wasn't drawing at all.
emotional dude why are u crying?
@immabarbiegirl2227they actually started booing Shawn in 96 after 5 months sid was already over by survivor series so u don't know what you are talking about
Feel better?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm sure I read from ''dirt sheets'' that if Bret vs HBK at Mania had happened , then it would have been Austin vs Taker on the card . wonder if the streak would even have been a thing had these matches happened .
According to Nash he was supposed to beat Taker the year before. Him deciding to go to WCW changed that.
Imagine if Shawn did a submission match with Brett and Shawn passed our covered in blood. Hbk is already the goat austwiyld have never existed
I like how everyone talks about how hard addiction in the wrestling business is and how we need to help people, except when it comes to HBK. The man was DEEP in addiction and everyone just shits on him. The irony is all of this shit from nearly 30 years ago still upsets bitter Bret but HBK doesn’t seem to care. He’s acknowledged his mistakes made amends and moved on.
If you think Shawn's so different, go talk to FTR. He's still a prick.
You’re right, except for the fact that Shawn and his kliq tried to destroy a lot of careers. That’s the Shawn Michaels that people remember.
Addiction isn't an excuse for being an asshole, it's a reason, but not an excuse.
@@FredCracklin exactly. Scott Hall had an addiction problem too. Look what he and Kevin Nash did in WCW. I love how Nash got on the shoot bandwagon years ago to try and justify their political maneuvering when part of it was being driven by two of his drunk, drugged up boyfriends.. oops I mean best friends. Shane Douglas, Chris Cándido, Bam Bam Bigelow, Tracey Smothers-and many others, and, ultimately Bret Hart, had every right to feel screwed over by these dudes.
@danielsalinas6683 during that time period everyone always said triple h was the level headed guy in the group. He apparently talked them down from doing a lot of shit.
The problem with Bret Hart is that he actually believed wrestling was real and never saw it for what it was and still is...entertainment! Business entertainment. Shawn Michaels said it better than anyone else..."Hitman you actually think all this is yours ". His rivalry with hbk was legendary and could have been even bigger if they could see each other eye to eye.
No he didn't. But he made it look real the most out of any wrestlers.
When you have zero knowledge about history. You don’t know what the Hart Dynasty meant and in which environment Hart grew up. What wrestling meant back in the day and what it meant to the wrestlers. He is one of the few wrestling’s royalty survivors.
How could Austin say he doesn't know any submissions when he spent some time as the Ring Master using the Ted DiBiase's million dollar dream?
yes Bret pinned him reversing it from the ropes
He probably did not say that.
Bret's probably lying
@@Jcrash71 I think he talking actual submissions not past the basic chinlock hold etc, which would make sense as Austin was never that type of Wrestler
Only enhancement talent (tomato cans/jobbers) would submit to the million dollar dream. A mid carder MIGHT pass out and not raise their arm after 3 drops. A top guy would never do either. Shit move and not useful in that match
What's funny is that these are the same plans Hogan didn't wanna do for Shawn. The whole three match deal.
You mean Shawn didn't wanna do for Hogan so he killed it by overselling cartoonie bumps
@@hockeyguy2005 it was Hogan's fault for not wanting to do the 3 match program. Hogan got butt hurt when HBK did the Larry King promo spoofing Hogan even though Hogan gave HBK permission to do it. Hogan only wanted to do the 1 match and faked an injury so that's the reason Shawn made Hogan look like a fool in that match with his Mr. Perfect selling he did.
@@fmthebaron no it was Shawn michaels fault, Shawn Michaels is an overrated pre-madonna little bitch, and was worse at backstage politics than the false narrative of Hogan.
@@hockeyguy2005wrong. It’s hogan who cut the program after he won . And Shawn flopping around literally made that match . It would of been a snooze fest if he didn’t
Lol...Hogan didn't want to do for Shawn was like giving Shawn the taste of his own medicine and to prove who's your daddy in politics brother 😂😂😂😂
Does Bret ever stop complaining?
He and Shawn have publically and privately made up, why is he still so bitter, unless he actually just hasn't forgiven anyone, I love brets work, but he has always come across as such a bitter old man to me and that really dampers him to me
I couldn't agree more!
People constantly ask him about the worst things that happen to him. Imagine if everywhere you went people constantly reminded you about tragic events in your life. Blame the interviewers for asking the same questions.
@@KoolaySmoov agreed! And Bret and Shawn made up a long time ago.
Old interview.
It’s never good to revisit the past.
I like Bret as a wrestler but the way he always has to take shot at everyone. He talks like anytime the belt wasn't on him the ratings dropped. Even when he talks about people he likes he makes it sound like he was the reason that guy made it. The ego is just wild even if there's maybe some truth to it. Yeah nash didn't draw in 95 but ain't like Bret drew when he held the belt for a few months at end of 95 or summer 97
Regardless, Bret is technically correct, he did indeed draw MORE than Diesel and HBK while champ. Go look at the numbers, they dont lie
Man if I had a nickel for every stale internet take on Bret I could retire.
If the business had more actually honest people like Bret who took themselves and the business seriously we wouldn't be stuck watching AEW's gymnastics routines and maybe some people would actually still watch wrestling.
Bless this man.
@@kylecampbell1532but he still couldn't draw
Vince dropped the ball leaving Bret go at the height of his career in many ways. 97 was Brets greatest year his mic skills were insanely good he had heat with everyone, the Canadian/U.S rivalry was genius it was still gaining momentum. The biggest shame in wrestling is Bret gone from WWF in 1997 and prematurely ending his career. Love these interview clips!
They lucked out with the Tyson thing since Shawn was hurt, but Austin vs Hart at Mania 98 with Austin beating Bret for the title would've been huge.
They did just fine without Bret.
I never comment on TH-cam but you are so right. I was ride or die with Bret even though I was American, wish he has stayed but I was even a WCW mark
@@gingerrevenger9718definitely, and even though the WWF did greater numbers they missed out on what Bret could offer, he’d have gotten even more guys over etc.
@@kamfisher1714it’s not just about the numbers, Bret had a lot more to offer snd he’d have gotten even more guys over etc. He was a valuable asset that the WWF lacked even in its height.
Brett and Shawn buried the hatchet, and this guy is still bitter. "So my plan was to beat him." Not absolving Shawn from being a complete douche at the time, but Brett is still a mark for himself and still holds grudges for things that were supposed to be apologized for.
Yes, and I rarely hear him take acceptability. He presents himself like a saint and his fans believe it.
“Take responsibility”, for what, doing the right thing and being ethical in almost every situation? Dude was a company man, who didn’t let anyone disrespect him. Vince, Shawn and other don’t have any integrity.
Just cuz Shawn apologized doesn’t mean Bret has to like him and be happy about what happened “bcuz he apologized”. Bret taking responsibility? He was screwed, Bret lost to Shawn happily, even back when they were in the intercontinental division, Bret had lost the belt to him. But shawn could never lose to Bret. He doesn’t act like a saint, he was a saint in the wrestling business.
Bret is talking in the past tense in these interviews though.
hbk already admitted he was an asshole and lied about the montreal screwjob bret is just telling his story thats all no bitterness AND his story never changed
No way would top babyface HBK ever lose by submission in the Sharpshooter during that time. In other shoot interviews Bret also claimed he was going to beat (at their peak) Ultimate Warrior and Hulk Hogan with the Sharpshooter as well which the fans would never buy that either. I don't know what Bret's obsession is with him thinking he's going to beat the Top Faces of the company by submission with the Sharpshooter when it's never going to happen that way.
Shawn wasn't a big draw and was a cry baby. Bret was the man at the time.
@@KB-hh8rt You calling Shawn a crybaby while Bret is crying THIRTY YEARS LATER is quite ironic
It’s sucks what happened to Bret and have his career end abruptly. Wish we could’ve seen him wrestle in the 2000’s maybe even a last match at Saudi. Dudes been through so much, respect to the Hitman.
Thank God Bret never wrestled in Saudi Arabia. I'm glad I can still respect Bret. No respect from me for anyone who has ever wrestled there.
How about no matches ever again in Saudi Arabia. That deal is morally wrong. Have folks forgotten? I question what propaganda is being pushed through youths minds.
Bret Hitman was a super chraclrater because he was this little pink warrior who would go out and battle for what je believed was just. Even when he was wrong, his character was justified in the Hitnans mind. Now there are no good guys ro root for. The ones that they want folks to cheer are so sinful that we cannot.ever truely get behind them. The led screens are also.junky looking along with the on screen graphics. There is no Bob Baclunds or American heros. Too many monster men, or selfish jerks. No body feels real as a grappler. Shamrock Blockmon, Furnace and La Fong. Good old Nicky Bockwinkle had class. Heck even Tace as tuff as he was demanded resoect. Now its goofs w scribble scrabble all over em. I think its Gone. All my favorites are gone. Maybe more important things to.do now a days . Nintendo and westling seem less important.
@@Adam-kn3tvi agree, last match in saudi would have been a horrible last match. means absolutely nothing and represents the worst of the sport
@@Adam-kn3tvIt’s a shame right wingers support LIV golf. They embrace the worst humanity has to offer
I agree with it all apart from the Saudi idea
jeEEESUSSSS CHRIST!!!
he asked him a simple fucking question!
Bret just rambles on for like 20 minutes!
Love how Bret trying to convince everyone it wasn’t on him that wcw started winning in the ratings
Bret is seriously one of the best to EVER lace a pair of boots in wrestling and I love watching his matches…………
But FFS MAN!!!! Please deflate the ego just a bit!!!
He really believes that much in himself, and that’s not a bad thing, until it gets to the point you thinking you are literally the best at everything 😂
When there's so much turmoil in the world it's comforting to know that somewhere Bret Hart will STILL be fucking moaning about his wrestling career. It's the universal constant.
He’s asked the questions tho smh 🤦♂️
@@Jbgunnerliveshow He doesn't need any prompting to have a good moan
Bret is so funny. The reason why he lost the belt to Shawn was because he wasn’t drawing and to think he should get paid Hogan money proves he is the most over in his own head.
I also doubt he wanted to be a hell but I know, I know…..Bret tells no lies, right?
Brent was an international superstar. Even if he didn't always draw the highest in the US, he still drew huge in Canada and throughout Europe.
@@signoresantinoburnett1169 That wasn’t enough.
I don’t even think that was English….
Bret had every right to ask for watever he wanted , he and Shawn didn’t draw because of the opponent’s they were given to tangle with . Perfect was done , razor was gone , rude was shelved Jake was washed , bulldog was struggling , hunter wasn’t a thing , there literally was no dance partners to put on a show with .
@@signoresantinoburnett1169he wasn't
Well, I can see Shawn's perspective of not wanting to put Bret over. From 1992 to 1997, it feels like being (somewhat) permanent second fiddle, if Bret won at WrestleMania 13. WM 13 would have worked, if Bret won and he lost at Summer Slam or something (as he suggests). Alternately, Bret should have lost WM 13, and the frustration of the guard changing could be built up for bout 3, which could have gone to Bret, but with Steve Austin maybe souring the victory, so that sets up the pathway for SCSA anyway?
But he wasnt permanent 2nd fiddle. Bret had lots of time in 93 - 95 without the world title. So you're off with that comment.
@@user-li3fr8jl3b Second fiddle to Bret. Not unto himself. By 1994, if Bret was 1, Shawn was 2. But, by 1995, Shawn was 1.5. By 1996, they were on par. So, for Shawn to lose again in 1997, after the one high, would feel off? Especially at WrestleMania? Shawn deserved WM13, imo. Then, it plays further into his arrogant 'you're old news' attitude towards Bret, which could be leveraged for the next bout. For once, it's Bret who would have to prove to Shawn, that he can take him out. That sorta thing.
@@user-li3fr8jl3b of course, the ideal is that Bret, Shawn and SCSA all worked through 1998. But that may have been too much mega wattage to accommodate? Bret would have moulded into different programs, but Shawn would likely not. He was in that imperial main event phase, but well...we'll never know.
19:16 but after mania 13 the submission match was all anyone could talk about so it became the main event I don’t think anybody says and no offense to taker or sid but that match isn’t remembered for being anything but 1 in the streak
It’s all about Bret it’s his world we just living in it
@@1000percent I like Bret but him hogan and Shawn just don’t want to lose lolol hogan be saying oh that’s not gonna work for me brother lolol
Bret needs to include himself when talking about champions that didn't draw. His lack of ability to draw as champion in 94 led to WWE choosing not to feature him as the headliner of the pay per views.
Exactly. Not many want to admit it. Bret though a great wrestler was never a big draw.
The cold hard truth is after Hogan and before Austin none of them drew big $.
Yoko, Bret, Diesel, Shawn, Sid and even Taker all struggled while business kept going downhill. It wasn't until Fall 97, led by the Montreal screwjob, that the WWF started to net positive and then exploded with Austin as their top act despite WCW still growing in popularity.
Hard to draw against WcW by 96 though. Still I go back and watch Brett's matches from 94-96 he was killing it in the ring. Most WWF Story lines sucked/Suck hard to pin that on him. He was one of the few highlights they still had going on.
Business was dry after the steroid scandal. Jesus wasn't drawing from 93-96.
disagree. Bret was definitely the biggest draw out of all those tops guy between hogan's era and austin. definitely not as big of a draw than hogan or austin in the USA but internationally im pretty sure Bret is only second to hogan during the 90's. Austin was a huge U.S attraction and the rock was both a huge U.S attraction and international@@robgbaby
I’m a 90’s guy and I love the Hitman…but I feel his stories change so much! It’s mind boggling sometimes
He's a horrible liar!
Boy...you got that right....if his mouth is moving he's lying
If Shawn never lost his smile Steve would of never gotten that big turning match that made him Stone Cold. Many say he became Stone cold when he did the 3:16 promo, but me, I remember the Ironman match with Brett that made him Stone Cold.
I’m pretty sure Bruce Prichard debunked Bret’s theory here
I trust Bruce and his word about as far as I can throw him.
the fuck was brett hart gonna do in hollywood. He makes Dean Malenko look charismatic.
I love Bret but his mic work makes Lance Storm look like The Rock
if you look at shawn's early days in wrestling he was around a lot of top guys who vacated the belt off not wanting to put anyone over, that's where he got that from.. there is a video about it somewhere maybe its still on yt i dunno
Sure, that doesn't make it good business though. I like Shawn he's one of my favorite wrestlers. Still he was almost Hogan level on that kind of BS.
Don't care what anyone says Bret Hart is an incredible storyteller. He literally was a giving person and tried to help Shawn become baby-face. What an idiot for Shawn Michaels for not accepting the idea.
That translated well into how he put matches together.
@@brixtonmystery Bret had great ideas.
You are absolutely, Bret was a incredible storyteller, it is just too bad that all of his stories were fiction as he stumbled thru his promos like a drunk frat boy. His skills started and stopped in the ring before and after the bell rang. Once you put a mic in his hands he became a baboon. Even this interview is filled with crap boring stories that is just putting people to sleep.
Nobody ever thought other wise. Of course Hitman is topps. That's why we turned WWF on when he returned. Then we met that man Punk and he was super, did not smoke or drink. A man you.can respect a bit. A nice change from the phonies.
@@LordAbaddonBret has admitted he was not the best on the mic. For him it depends on what the story is going to be. I think definitely 1997 when he became a heel again with the whole New Hart Foundation across the US was the best.
Bret is the GOAT. In so many ways.
To bad Bret didn't stick around for awhile.......I always wanted to see Bret VS Kurt Angle
amazing how the match he did not want to do, became his best match ever.
Right, else where he praises the match and this is The match that Wrestlemania XIII is remembered for, the rest of the ppv stunk. I'm surprised Bret was like of just "meh" about this match, I guess that's because his heart was set on regaining the title back from Shawn, something he didn't say here, which is in his book is about them promising Shawn a long title reign, much like they did Diesel and Hart before him, sadly he didn't draw, and alot of that wasn't even on Shawn, he didn't have alot of strong opponents to work with, and the whole thing with Vader (Who he didn't want to work with) would have been a great opponent for him but it didn't work out. Nash had the same problem in 1995, he didn't have enough strong heels to work against, which is part of the reason why his WWF title reign didn't go so well, not to mention business being down all around in 1995.
Yeah, but come to find out a lot of what he’s saying is true and he’s referring to nothing but scumbags.
I kinda hate how they always say, “when Shawn lost his smile”.
The real reason, whether you believe it or not, was that he had a knee injury. You can say the injury was fake, but he never relinquished the belt just because he “lost his smile”.
That may be, but he definitely was not keen on the idea of dropping the belt back to Bret. Or probably dropping it to anyone for that matter. Thus why the 'career ending' all of a sudden went out of it soon as he no longer had to, and it's also a big co-incidence that the back injury miraculously healed up soon as his contract was up and Vince no longer had to pay him. In all seriousness though, his 2002-10 run was arguably the best of his career. And, him and Bret leaving was probably what allowed Rock & Austin to shine like they did from late-98 on.
Side note: there was also massive issues with getting him to drop the belt to Austin at the following years Mania. Moral of the story, Shawn was a prick back then.
Dosnt matter
The fact he "lost his smile" was the kayfabe reason why he dropped it, like it or not ...thats why people call it that
@@TonySpike
Like it or not that’s literally not true.
If you actually watch the promo before Shawn even says anything Vince says,
“You are facing a KNEE OPERATION I wonder if you’d share with the fans all around the world what’s going through your head.”
Then one of the first things outta Shawn’s mouth is,
“I never had a doctor look me in the face and say that I may never be able to wrestle again.”
He says again,
“I don’t know where im at right how… I may be beyond reconstructive KNEE SURGERY”
Then finally he ends his speech with the famous line,
“I’m gonna go back home and see what’s left for me. I’ve lost a lot of things and one of them has been my smile.”
Either you don’t know what kayfabe means, you never actually saw the promo, or you’re an idiot.
Again, you can say he’s lying. That’s fine. He probably is lying, but the whole “lost my smile” thing got repeated so much that idiots like you think that was the official “kayfabe” reason for him dropping the belt.
@@TonySpikeI mean, you're factually wrong, you clearly have never actually seen the full segment otherwise you wouldn't have written your comment that is so easily disprovable.
he was hooked on drugs bud
7:45-Bret should have left WWF at this time.
Bret was my hero growing up and still love him today such a humble person
I'm the opposite. Loved HBK as a kid. Didn't like Bret, but all the stories you hear about the druggie HBK. Makes me respect Bret more now.
@@mattb1611 I liked Shawn to but I just loved Bret even Shawn himself admits himself he was out of control
Bret is a lot of things. Humble isn't one of them.
Agreed to previous response..Bret tells a good story masks his true nature well..but he is galaxy's away from humble
@@shadowlazers just like you then
Is this not from a few years ago?
"I wanted to make him tap, break his arm, then make him look like a loser by giving him the finger. They got mad I wanted to completely bury their top guy." Typical Bret Hart delusional nonsense.
You haven't watched the part of their conclusion of rivalry, have you ?? That sounds like Shawn was the ultimate winner in the end.
@@Shiva-Kumar138Sure. When Shawn getting completely buried by Bret pushed him back down the card, Bret would've backed out of the third match, too. He's an egomaniac, just like Shawn. They're exactly the same, and that's why they hate each other. They'd both fuck over their mother to be the top guy. Difference is, Bret acts like he's some kind of role model. Shawn admits to his shit.
I don't blame Shawn for not going with that. Bret ego is huge.
Not really
Man’s entire legacy is now reduced to talking shit about backstage politics from 30 years ago and making sure to drag Shawn even though Shawn’s been sober and a better person for like 20.
C'mon now Bret, You mean to tell me that a POTENTIAL "championship" win over Shawn at Mania was all it took to convince you to turn down WCW's offer of a higher salary AND lighter work schedule ?!? Seriously?! Mentality of a true MARK.
That's why Nash and Hall didn't want him as champion. They knew they were not gonna be the guy, but Bret was willing to take less money if it meant him being the guy. Yeah, HBK was their friend, but he was also someone who demanded money, and that meant they could ask for more. In WCW, they had no problem with Hogan making bank cause that just kept raising the pay ceiling.
If Bret were being fully honest, him not wanting to go to WCW probably had a lot to do with his soured relationship with Hulk Hogan and knowing how much stroke Hulk had with WCW….and Bret would be 100% correct if that’s what was going through his head back then.
And this is probably why he told Bishoff that he wanted Hulk’s pay plus one penny.
I am from watching this generation of wrestling or the tail end of the feud and have only followed parts since, so excuse me if I miss or had missed something. But the bottom line of the whole feud seems to be money orientated and not so much about following storyline/theme. As Bret mentioned here, his contract is up (according to him they did not know), but look at it from Vinces perspective, we paid Shaun recently, and Bret will want to top that price as he would have serious leverage to do so, as in his contracts up and has the "belt".
I'm glad Bret can tell these stories with a smile on his face.
Bret can hold a grudge.
Better than CM Punk can. That's for sure 😂
@4:25 Two Truths here. Bret Hart never wanted to go to WCW, but he'd use the "WCW Threat Card" whevenever he could to benefit himself. 2nd truth, Bret Hart admitting he had leverage in the WWF and that he used it to his advantage - Funny how he sh*ts on Shawn Michaels for doing the exact same thing.
Did you know that the reason Bret Hart left the WWF to go to WCW is because he used the "WCW threat Card" once too often and McMahon told him to go to WCW? Funny how the deal he got at WCW was the same deal he threatened McMahon with when he played his final "WCW Threat Card". Did you know that McMahon did not break any contract with Bret Hart - his contract was being played out in Wrestling With Shadows. Bret can be seen discussing the contract and whether to sign it or not with his then wife Julie. In Wrestling With Shadows you also get to hear how Bret approached McMahon and begged him to keep him at the WWF and how McMahon refused. Bret Hart is simply full of bullsh*t. He lies and whines and bitches and moans and blames anyone and everyone for all the things that never went Bret Hart's way - it's never Bret's fault it's always someone elses; like it was his Wife's fault for all the affairs he had - a wife who was raising four kids on her own while he was having an affair in every port of call.
I think anyone who respects Bret Hart on a personal level need to check themselves. There's not a lot to respect.
In fairness, another match with Shawn for the belt would have been just another match. The match with Steve Austin was a classic and one of the best of all time. People still talk about his match with Steve. 25+ years later, who cares if he won the belt back? Bret got screwed in other ways, but not working with Shawn at WM13 turned out to be the best thing possible. Those who know wrestling will remember the I Quit Match as an instant classic.
Put Steve on the road to main event properly.
Bret was 5-1 in singles matches against HBK before Survivor Series 1997. He had beaten him clean multiple times between 1992-1995. Shawn owed Bret absolutely nothing. These rivalries don't have to be 50/50 booking 100% of the time. Triple H put over Batista 3x in a row. Undertaker put over Kane 3x in a row in 2010 because up to that point, Undertaker was also something like 5-1 against Kane having dominated their prior rivalries. Timing is everything and Bret was leaving the company while DX was a counter to the NWO. But Bret treated this as a real championship, and he disrespected the business, and it's shameful being the son of Stu Hart. You go out on your back. You don't get to put a bunch of caveats and hedges on it. I will only lose to this guy, in this country, on this night, when you only have days left at the company. You listen to your boss, and he had the chance to give Shawn and DX a mega rub and extra heel heat in Canada on his way out, and he refused. The same thing he's been crying about Hulk Hogan not doing for him for 30 years (and make no mistake, Hogan absolutely should've put Bret over at SummerSlam 1993, I'm only pointing out Bret's hypocrisy.). Now Bret is lying claiming it wasn't about losing to Shawn in Canada when there's video evidence on TH-cam of him saying it on a Canadian TV show that that's exactly what it was about. He's even taken to throwing his dead brother in law under the bus to take all the credit for SummerSlam 1992, wildly exaggerating the state Davey was in and claiming it was a 45 minute match instead of the 24 it actually was. Bret thinks that every match in his career is his best match, and emphasis on HIS best match, not the other guy's. So sad to see what Bret's reduced to.
Bret Heart is one of the most decent men in wrestling. Everything he says he has backed up with so many other people in the business have backed up. He was and still is a proper pro. Knowing losing is just as much as winning and building characters and having great matches.
Not just with Bret but for WWF as a whole 97 was the best year. Creatively on the mic and in the ring it just seemed thats where not only turned the corner but peakes and the WWF was able to ride that creat through the attitude era.
Mick got over with those sitdown Jim Ross interviews. Pillman was gold on the mic. Austin was peaking, Michaels was strung out on the junk but he could still go. Sid and Taker were both hot. LOD was back and over. The heel Godwins are pretty underrated.
Chyna came in and just looked so different and was over almost instantly and HHH was able to get a ton of heat.
Owen and Bulldog were really good in their roles. Vader had trimmed down and he was putting people over but they still treated him like a monster.
But 97 and 92 were probably the two best years for Bret both in the ring and on the mic
Yeah was great, WWF was really under pressure from WCW in '97 and came up with some good stuff. It was the year that WWF was bought back to TV in New Zealand.
Hart vs Austin is my top 1 wrestlemania match
Mania-13-should've-been
HBK-vs-Taker-WWF-title
Bret-vs-Austin
Sid-vs-Vader
Also....Bret-shoulve-taken-WCW's-offer-of-2.5-million-a-year...He-wouldve--worked-less-dates-as-well.....He-showed-too-much-loyalty-to-Vince
I wish people would stop asking Bret these kinds of questions. He can't help but answer and it's just not helping anything other than drive clicks...
Back when the title was passed around like a bag of skittles like oh you want it here you oh you here you go also
No way ratings went down for hbk
they did he was getting bood as champion in 5 months sid was already over bout time they wrestled
@@thecardbunker801 Cornette confirmed ratings were down when hbk was champ
The wrestlemania 13 match between Brett Hart and Stone cold it’s probably one of the greatest matches of all time. It’s the only wrestling match in history to have a double turn. Bret heart did make Stone Cold Steve Austin that night. That is the match that propelled Austin‘s career without it I don’t think everything goes quite the same. This is another feather in the cap of why the hitman is the greatest professional wrestler ever. no one even comes close. And it also proves that the wrestling in the ring was far superior than any storyline. Think about it today’s age uses storylines to turn people good to bad, bad good but Brett hart was so good. He used his wrestling to do it.
Shawn made the ratings stay great, dont know what Brett is smoking. HBK mania was everywhere before Shawn retired from injury. WCW just did better & had more stars plus better story lines on a whole for awhile.
I dont remember a single thing during 1995 or 1996 that didnt include bret hart. Shawns supposed best years were still unmemorable which proves why the WCW took over right when they handed HBK the torch. However, 1993 and 1994 were dominated by the hitman, even the retarded PWI scale says so which just proves even more how big bret was and how big of a draw he was, although not on hogan or austins level, but definitely the biggest draw out of guys like diesel, hbk and taker during 1993-1996
12:48 Actually this wasn’t a bad idea. What a shame
Gosh why do we keep hearing his damn grievances, it's a broken record already! time to move on Already.
How meny times do we have to go through his bitterness and past.
It's tiring and boring already.
Okay Bret we've heard this again and again...meanwhile Shawn Michaels has moved on well the Marks hang on to the past and get angry over shit that never affect their lives personally.
Can we hear the man says positive things and reminisce about his great career moments.
There is a new regime now....just move on already.
Bret Hart is a crybaby. Look at stone cold he doesnt blame owen hart, he just sayst that owen never called him after incident.
So essentially Brett wanted to do the Kurt and Brock angle when they were claiming to be buddy’s but just one upping each other. I think it would’ve been great and bring out Michael’s comedic side a bit earlier in his career
Going to call it now. Bret's full of shit because this is the first time ANYONE heard this part of the story. Before that, he claimed he found out weeks before Mania
What the fuck are you talking about?! Bret’s story has never changed
I'll give Shawn this, at least he owns up to his behavior in the 90's. Bret on the other hand still talks like a jilted lover who can't get over being dumped for someone else.
Shawn didn't draw?? That's cap!
I work night shift and I have a lot of ass time at work and it gets pretty boring. I love pulling Bret hart interviews and I can listen to him talk and tell stories all night long. It’s amazing how down to earth and fan interactive he is. He truly loves wrestling. A genuinely good guy!
Most bitter dude in wrestling history
Has he legit ever said a nice word about anyone ever
I just saw a video where he put Macho Man over .
Roddy Piper, Curtis Hennig, Yokozuna, never heard him say anything bad about Undertaker.
Either you are Shawn on a dummy account, or you haven't seen Bret Hart videos about other wrestlers.
@@Shiva-Kumar138 Shawn hasn’t spoken bad of Bret in years.
@chuckbuskee I think he is honest about how he feels but he is less than honest about his own mistakes and mishaps. Little to no accountability.
You can’t be a saint in every story!
He is not tired of complaining about same things over decades?