I drive a 2019 accord hybrid, and I've found that if you set your cruise control to the speed you eventually want to get to, it will also keep it in ev mode longer and will accelerate faster. Now, I'm not sure how that affects the MPGs, but its something that I found interesting.
We are considering the Accord Hybrid. Ive been looking all day for a video showing how realistic the EV function works in real life. This is the first video that I have found
I do appreciate this video. I would like to see you driving normal that's the real test. Nobody will drive like this you actually want to use your gas you don't want it sitting in the tank getting too too old. 100 miles a gallon is sick so babying it is not necessary. Thanks for this. Appreciate it.
I have to put significant miles on the car, filling up every 2 weeks. Certainly not enough time to be concerned with stale gasoline. This video is a demonstration of a technique to achieve the most fuel savings, and the technique can be applied in the real world in appropriate driving situations to achieve that over the long run. I use the paddles to downshift to not only regenerate the battery charge, but save on wearing out the brake pads. I'm hearing owners reporting this generation of Honda hybrids getting over 100K miles before needing a brake job. $900 right there.
Nitpick: When you drive with the gas engine off, it is called *_EV Drive_* not EV Mode. The green “EV” letters appear in the driver’s display. *_EV Mode_* is when you push the “EV” button, asking the car to prefer EV Drive over Hybrid Drive or Engine Drive. But EV Drive by itself isn’t what saves gas - in fact, it likely uses more gas than if you were to drive about the same way but let the car choose another Drive method. All of the energy you use comes from burning gas. In EV Drive, it is gas you burned earlier to charge the battery. Since this energy takes an extra trip through the generator, the inverters, the battery, and the inverters again? There is more loss. The reason you got >70 mpg in the short drive in the video, is because you used gas from your previous trip (8 bars at the start, 3 or 4 at the end). That gas in not included in the 70 mpg calculation. The way this car uses less, is that when the engine runs at 34 HP, the engine is 40.6% efficient (real numbers from engineering papers). But at 5 to 10 HP, which is what you need to cruise at 30 to 40 mph, it would be 25% to 30% efficient. Big difference. So instead of running at 5 to 10 HP, the engine runs at 34 HP and “banks” the extra energy in the battery. The energy it uses immediately is used with 40% efficiency. The energy you take from the battery has more loss, so it might get used at about 30% efficiency. Yes, this is still better than what it would be without the battery, but you'd like as much as possible to be 40%. THEN, there are two ways you can slow the car. “Coasting” is when you lift your foot up on the gas pedal, using only regeneration to slow the car. All the paddles do, is increase how strong this effect is. “Braking” is when you use the brake pedal. What you don’t realize, is that “braking” is computer-driven. The car will choose to use as much regeneration as it can - and is safe - before resorting to the friction brakes. It can even use more than it would while coasting. So as long as braking doesn’t push the “charging” monitor on the left of the driver’s display all the way to the end, you will get as much, *_or more_* regeneration as you would with the paddles for the same amount of slowing. The paddles can help train you to what this means, but you don’t need to use them. (But they do help control you downhill.)
@@vex6543 Regen *_braking_* does not create "new" energy. It recovers the kinetic energy of the car that would be lost as heat with friction brakes. That energy came from burning gas. Gas is the only source of energy a non-plug-in hybrid has. The point is that hybrids gain mpgs by saving energy for later use. This energy can be either the excess energy produced when doing so makes the engine more efficient, or the energy saved by regen brakes. How or when it is used isn't as important as how it was saved. But forcing the car to use its supply of saved energy, by pushing the EV button, interferes with its ability to save efficiently.
@@jeffjo8732 So then if the gas is being used to power the battery, then what did you mean in your original comment that the gasoline burned is not being taken into account? Also, the vehicle could be going down hill, and the paddle shifters can be used for regen
@@vex6543 . 1) Any time you use charge from the battery, you are using energy that originally cane from gasoline. This is true even if that charge was acquired "using the paddle shifters going downhill." How, exactly, do you think you got to the top of that hill? It was by burning more gas than you would have needed on a flat road. This is the gas you are using. 2) There are losses in each step of the battery process (generator, high-volt AC to low-volt DC, charging, discharging, LVDC to HVAC, motor). Direct drive has significantly less loss. 3) The reason the battery helps with efficiency, even after considering these losses, is that you can (A) recover energy that would have been lost to braking and (B) the engine in that Accord Hybrid uses 20% less fuel at its optimal level of power, than when generates just what it needs at 55 mph. So even with those extra losses in #2, splitting the power between propulsion and charging in #3 *_can_* reduce the total amount of gas used. But *_can_* reduce isn't *_will_* reduce. It still depends on how much is deferred through the battery, and what conditions the charge is replenished. Forcing the car to use EV Drive increases how much is deferred, and except in very rare circumstances, makes the engine replenish the battery under less beneficial conditions.
@@jeffjo8732 Yes, it took gasoline to go up the hill, and that is accounted for in the mpg, as opposed to what you originally claimed. Once going down hill, the vehicle can suspend the combustion of gas by switching to the ev battery (gasoline combusted has already been accounted for at this point as well). Furthermore, with the use of the paddle shifters, the battery will be regenerated without the combustion of gasoline.
Haha I do the same. Light feathering on the gas. It’s a like a game to me that I play everyday I drive my touring. As long as no one is behind me I get high 40s close to 50 mpg. Always! Haha
I have this car, the paddles definitely help with the gas mileage by assisting the regenerative breaking system and charging the battery more plus saves your break pads
They only help the driver learn where the limits if the regen system are. They can apply as much regen as possible. The brake pedal will apply the same amount, and then add the friction brakes.
@@jeffjo8732 That's what I'm finding personally. I just got one of these and I thought I was doing really well with the regen pedal trick but I'm honestly finding that just using the brakes makes the regen arrow dip lower (better) than when using the shift pedal. I also live in completely flat, traffic heavy Dallas-Ft Worth area though so I don't get any of this nice "downhill" regen thing I keep hearing about lol.
@@doom4uall On this car you can't feel any weird switching between hydraulic braking and electric braking like how Toyota hybrids feel. Which is nice. It's so much more smooth and linear.
Like your videos. I have the same 2022 accord hybrid sport. It's just a fun car to drive. knowing how high gas is it makes you want to get the best mileage you can. Sometimes I wish I got the 2.0 turbo instead but overall I think I made the right choice getting the hybrid.
Here's a question for you from another Honda Accord Hybrid owner. Mine is a 2017, which is the first year that they did the major hybrid system redesign, and mechanically it hasnt changed much through 2022 from what I understand. The main difference is that the 2017 is the old 2012 body style with the new hybrid mechanicals and a 15.8 gallon gas tank, which is bigger than when the 2018 and newer were remade. I can literally go 650 miles on a tank. It's awesome. Here is my question: Let's say you need to do a long highway drive. What is the optimal speed for you to set the cruise at for the highest MPG? Assume you will be using cruise control and there is very little other traffic. My experience over 70k miles tells me that the sweet spot is somewhere between 55 and 65 miles per hour, where you will get close to 45 mpg on a pretty flat drive. Hills will complicate things, of course. If I push it to 70 or 75, my mileage drops down to like 35. I am curious if you ever tried to test this out yourself on the highway? If you reset the trip meter every 5-10 minutes or so during your drive, you can get a good estimate of what the optimal speed mpg is. Give it a try and let me know how you do!
Hi if you drive around 75 mph on the highway and get around 35mpg is this during the winter or summer months? Also what is your average mpg in the city average speed around 50 mpg? Thank you
2014 was the first year for the hybrid system. It was a plug-in that Honda dropped in 2016, and brought back without the plug in 2017. They also tweaked the engine and motor a little. There is no clear "sweet spot" for mpg at highway speeds - slower is better. But that is because of aerodynamics, not the system itself. To see why, you need to differentiate between engine efficiency (gas in, to energy out of engine) from what is incorrectly called "fuel efficiency" (gas in, to miles driven). Cruising in any car needs more power as you drive faster, but an engine gets more efficient as it produces more power, up to a point. Your engine's sweet spot is 54 mph (that's 2000 rpm in Engine Drive), where the engine needs 208.1 grams of fuel per kilowatt-hour of energy produced. But it stays below 210 grams between about 40 mph and 75 mph, and this is why these speeds corresponds to Engine Drive. Since engine efficiency does not change significantly in this range, any changes in mpg are due mostly to aerodynamics, and differences in how much gets lost to heat in the battery. Between 40 and 55, it should be fairly constant. Going from 55 to 75, it drops slightly. And it drops more, the more often you change speeds (that is, you aren't really cruising). Above 75 mph, enfine efficiency starts to go down as well.
I have same vehicle as you and from my experience driving 80 highway miles per day the optimum speed is 67mph in cruise. I get best mileage when outside temperature is is anywhere between 72-82 degrees. Depending on the traffic I've gotten as much as 54mpg driving 40 highway miles. My wife gets 58mpg city without even trying, I can't get that but I guess her natural style of driving is great for this type of vehicle.
I’ve been breaking trying to keep my needle at or above the a white line in the green while stopping thing that charged the batter faster. Can’t wait to try down shifting!
I'm averaging well over 47 in Miami traffic on my 2024 crv hybrid sport L. My secret is to keep my foot off the brake as much as posible and stay under 65mph. Got to work with its strong points.
I haven’t read through the comments but I know it’s a bit obsessive but here in Colorado if you turn off the cabin(interior) heat you will stay in EV about 25% longer. The naturally aspirated engine has to run to keep you warm.
What PSI are your tires set at? Have you experimented with different gasolines? I got my 2022 Accord hybrid a few weeks ago (love it), just filled up for the first time. Avg was 5.2L / 100 KM on the first tank. Rated for 5.0, but people forget if you have family in the car with you 90% of the time (2 car seats, 2 kids, + wife) all of these things impact your efficiency compared to laboratory theoreticals.
I own this as well, my basic driving skill is when you throttle down and the engine turns on, leave it and re-step it. the electric motor will back to work again.
You don’t need to be doing all this downshifting, downshifting regenerates the same amount of energy as using the brakes except it generates it in the “efficient zone” .. you’re pressing your brakes too hard and going into the non efficient zone and probably going into using your actual brakes, don’t let the regen needle pass 70% and youll see significantly higher mpg due to more regen energy stored
Aye great videos, can you answer me these questions, much appreciate I intend to buy a CRV HEV 24 and these features kinda confused me 1.When to use B and D? 2.If I dont switch to B, would my electric motor still running? 3.Can you explain more about (-) and (+) part. I read CRV HEV manual book and it said if you want to increase more energy, and slow the car, press (+); (-) is vice versa 4.Can you tell me the cost of maintaining Honda HEV vehicles, cuz technically if we have 2 motors, it would be way more costly to maintain the car
Only PROBLEM, that I don't like, is that when one hits the paddle shifters to slow down, the BRAKE LIGHTS DO NOT ENGAGE. Drivers behind you DO NOT KNOW.😮
Just got a 2023 Hybrid Touring. Of course, this one has the 19" wheel and tire package - an mpg thief! Averaging 43 mpg in 100 miles in city and easy urban driving 50/50. I noticed my battery level meter never seems to go over 1/2 "full". Is this normal?
This guy really doesn't know what he is talking about. There are three reasons why he got 74.5 mpg on this trip: (A) It was only 3 miles, averaging 25 mph in a 35 mph zone, (B) A lot of it was downhill, and (3) He started with the battery at 80% and ended at 40% (This means some of the gas he "used" was burned on his last trip, and does not show up in the trip computer. It was enough to drive about a mile at these speeds. So he really did about 50 mpg; still impressive, but not what he implies.) (My credentials: 2018 Accord Hybrid averaging 48 mpg over 50,000+ miles in all conditions.) The best "trick" is that you do want to change speeds slowly. Accelerating slowly keeps the engine in its efficiency band, and braking slowly means the car uses more regen braking (even with the brake pedal; the paddles do not cause it to happen and do not do any better than braking at the same rate with the pedal). The "trick" you don't want to use is trying to make the car run in EV Drive ("EV mode" is when you push the idiot button to force EV Drive). When the engine runs in low-power (or high-power) situations it is about 30% efficient. But it is 40% efficient in medium-power situations. The problem is, that most driving is a low-power situation. So the Accord Hybrid will still run the engine at medium power and use the excess to charge the battery. You can see this happening in the Power Flow Monitor. So the "blue" portion that goes directly to the wheels is 40% efficient. The "green" portion that goes to the battery, and back at a later time, suffers maybe an additional 25% loss, putting it back at 30% efficient. The point is that you only gain on the blue portion, not the green portion. The computer will try to maintain the State of Charge in the battery within a small portion of its range. If it gets too high, you can't use regen effectively. If it gets too low, you might not have power when you need it. Where these limits are depends on the drive mode you choose. In ECON, the SoC stays between 30% and 50% most of the time. This is perfectly normal. In NORMAL, these limits are a little higher. In SPORT, the lower limit is about 50% and there is no upper limit. Your 2023 lets you customize these details in the INDIVIDUAL mode.
Sigh. The more relevant question here is this his typical everyday drive? Prob not, but over time this technique with this technology will save him a significant amount of money. Good for him, he gets an extra vacation or whatever.
The paddle on the left tells it to down shift. The paddle on the right tells it to go up a gear you usually do it while trying to slow down or to catch a little charge in traffic or highway
Hybrid: Thank you for the video, I purchased my car a week ago and I was not totally clear on how and when to use the downshift paddle. So, to use your example from video, as I approach a stop I should still lightly press gas but use paddles to downshift or do I simply release the gas but still downshift? Sorry if that is a silly question but a lot of what’s this car offers is new to me. Thanks again
When you come to a red light or stop sign. Start down shifting two times before you even start to apply the brake. Then as you get closer, you press the brake pedal.
I downshift the paddle anytime possible, instead of touching the brake pedal. This benefits not only fuel economy, but some drivers are reporting not needing a brake job until reaching 100K miles.
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Is there a way to completely get out of this mode? It kicked in for the first time after having the car a week when i drove out if town. It’s like driving with resistance. I need to travel home today & will be on the interstate, but can’t get it to drive normally. Is there s button to press to get it out of this mode? Please help
Its what Tesla advertises as a great feature, called "one-pedal driving." Just don't release the accelerator all the way to control deceleration. But if you don't like it, either use ECON or NORMAL mode (it cancels when you accelerate again) or in SPORT use the right paddle to decrease it.
He is just showing you how to get the best mpg. Don't think you have to drive like this. Its only if your trying to get the best mileage possible. This car drives like any regular gas engine. If you drive normal you will get up to 45mpg in the city and 36-40 hwy. I have the same car and sometimes you will try to get the best mpg but most of the time I just drive normal and get the mpg I just showed. It's a great car. I've had mine for 8 months and if I had a choice I'd buy it again.
@@StackWithMe that’s insane. Straight off the lot i had 560 then it gradually went down within couple of months to 500 then 480. Now I get 470 and barely 36 mpg
I bought a Honda hybrid 2024 crv i don't want to be taught how to hyper mile and drive around at a effort level i just want to drive and the gas mileage is abysmal.i can drive like a crazy person coasting down hills but this is ridiculous. Why didn't I get a RAV4 those get good accurate mileage with non of this feathering garbage
On your screen, you displayed 41.6mpg - THAT is your "true" mpg - not the one that is displayed on the current cluster. You don't have to show me how to drive - as I do a mixed city/hwy travel everyday and still avg far better than 41.6 / more like 48.8mpg on a tank. Sure, when driving at an avg speed of 25mph - you can achieve great mpg. However, those moments are short lived. Short drives are never good for any vehicle with combustion. It takes quite a while for the engine to get up to operating temp to see efficient HWY mpg. WHO is buying aftermarket paddle shifters for regen? That's pointless...that actually contributes to the overall cost. WHO drives like this? but you...
Just got my 24 honda Accord hybrid and I love it
You mean ford Taurus
@@akilghoshWhileci complained so much about the exterior model, I have to say, Never driven such a soft and quite ride plus gas mileage is so good!
@@andresa802 which trim ?
I drive a 2019 accord hybrid, and I've found that if you set your cruise control to the speed you eventually want to get to, it will also keep it in ev mode longer and will accelerate faster. Now, I'm not sure how that affects the MPGs, but its something that I found interesting.
Honda’s Accord Hybrid driving experience is phenomenal 👌. Keep up the good videos…
Hybrid. Love my 2022 Accord Hybrid Accord Touring.
Cheers and congrats mate
Honda & Toyota hybrid, nothing else.😊
We are considering the Accord Hybrid. Ive been looking all day for a video showing how realistic the EV function works in real life. This is the first video that I have found
To get more mpg you need to be in a traffic jam in LA and you'll get the best ev mode out of your car lol
Hahaha crazy right?! Wait until 2030. Buy a clean V8 and it will be worth so much money in California.
I'm there w ya
I do appreciate this video. I would like to see you driving normal that's the real test. Nobody will drive like this you actually want to use your gas you don't want it sitting in the tank getting too too old. 100 miles a gallon is sick so babying it is not necessary. Thanks for this. Appreciate it.
I have to put significant miles on the car, filling up every 2 weeks. Certainly not enough time to be concerned with stale gasoline. This video is a demonstration of a technique to achieve the most fuel savings, and the technique can be applied in the real world in appropriate driving situations to achieve that over the long run. I use the paddles to downshift to not only regenerate the battery charge, but save on wearing out the brake pads. I'm hearing owners reporting this generation of Honda hybrids getting over 100K miles before needing a brake job. $900 right there.
Nitpick: When you drive with the gas engine off, it is called *_EV Drive_* not EV Mode. The green “EV” letters appear in the driver’s display. *_EV Mode_* is when you push the “EV” button, asking the car to prefer EV Drive over Hybrid Drive or Engine Drive.
But EV Drive by itself isn’t what saves gas - in fact, it likely uses more gas than if you were to drive about the same way but let the car choose another Drive method. All of the energy you use comes from burning gas. In EV Drive, it is gas you burned earlier to charge the battery. Since this energy takes an extra trip through the generator, the inverters, the battery, and the inverters again? There is more loss. The reason you got >70 mpg in the short drive in the video, is because you used gas from your previous trip (8 bars at the start, 3 or 4 at the end). That gas in not included in the 70 mpg calculation.
The way this car uses less, is that when the engine runs at 34 HP, the engine is 40.6% efficient (real numbers from engineering papers). But at 5 to 10 HP, which is what you need to cruise at 30 to 40 mph, it would be 25% to 30% efficient. Big difference.
So instead of running at 5 to 10 HP, the engine runs at 34 HP and “banks” the extra energy in the battery. The energy it uses immediately is used with 40% efficiency. The energy you take from the battery has more loss, so it might get used at about 30% efficiency. Yes, this is still better than what it would be without the battery, but you'd like as much as possible to be 40%.
THEN, there are two ways you can slow the car. “Coasting” is when you lift your foot up on the gas pedal, using only regeneration to slow the car. All the paddles do, is increase how strong this effect is. “Braking” is when you use the brake pedal.
What you don’t realize, is that “braking” is computer-driven. The car will choose to use as much regeneration as it can - and is safe - before resorting to the friction brakes. It can even use more than it would while coasting. So as long as braking doesn’t push the “charging” monitor on the left of the driver’s display all the way to the end, you will get as much, *_or more_* regeneration as you would with the paddles for the same amount of slowing. The paddles can help train you to what this means, but you don’t need to use them. (But they do help control you downhill.)
But the car uses regenerative breaking, so the battery is not entirely charged by gasoline burned
@@vex6543 Regen *_braking_* does not create "new" energy. It recovers the kinetic energy of the car that would be lost as heat with friction brakes. That energy came from burning gas. Gas is the only source of energy a non-plug-in hybrid has.
The point is that hybrids gain mpgs by saving energy for later use. This energy can be either the excess energy produced when doing so makes the engine more efficient, or the energy saved by regen brakes. How or when it is used isn't as important as how it was saved. But forcing the car to use its supply of saved energy, by pushing the EV button, interferes with its ability to save efficiently.
@@jeffjo8732 So then if the gas is being used to power the battery, then what did you mean in your original comment that the gasoline burned is not being taken into account?
Also, the vehicle could be going down hill, and the paddle shifters can be used for regen
@@vex6543 .
1) Any time you use charge from the battery, you are using energy that originally cane from gasoline. This is true even if that charge was acquired "using the paddle shifters going downhill." How, exactly, do you think you got to the top of that hill? It was by burning more gas than you would have needed on a flat road. This is the gas you are using.
2) There are losses in each step of the battery process (generator, high-volt AC to low-volt DC, charging, discharging, LVDC to HVAC, motor). Direct drive has significantly less loss.
3) The reason the battery helps with efficiency, even after considering these losses, is that you can (A) recover energy that would have been lost to braking and (B) the engine in that Accord Hybrid uses 20% less fuel at its optimal level of power, than when generates just what it needs at 55 mph.
So even with those extra losses in #2, splitting the power between propulsion and charging in #3 *_can_* reduce the total amount of gas used. But *_can_* reduce isn't *_will_* reduce. It still depends on how much is deferred through the battery, and what conditions the charge is replenished. Forcing the car to use EV Drive increases how much is deferred, and except in very rare circumstances, makes the engine replenish the battery under less beneficial conditions.
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Yes, it took gasoline to go up the hill, and that is accounted for in the mpg, as opposed to what you originally claimed. Once going down hill, the vehicle can suspend the combustion of gas by switching to the ev battery (gasoline combusted has already been accounted for at this point as well). Furthermore, with the use of the paddle shifters, the battery will be regenerated without the combustion of gasoline.
Haha I do the same. Light feathering on the gas. It’s a like a game to me that I play everyday I drive my touring. As long as no one is behind me I get high 40s close to 50 mpg. Always! Haha
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That was why prius drivers were hated by everyone. They piss off the cars. Plying a game of save a mpg. Instead of driving.
I have this car, the paddles definitely help with the gas mileage by assisting the regenerative breaking system and charging the battery more plus saves your break pads
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They only help the driver learn where the limits if the regen system are. They can apply as much regen as possible. The brake pedal will apply the same amount, and then add the friction brakes.
@@jeffjo8732 That's what I'm finding personally. I just got one of these and I thought I was doing really well with the regen pedal trick but I'm honestly finding that just using the brakes makes the regen arrow dip lower (better) than when using the shift pedal. I also live in completely flat, traffic heavy Dallas-Ft Worth area though so I don't get any of this nice "downhill" regen thing I keep hearing about lol.
@@user-ff9rp7ic5r can u tell when the friction brakes start kicking in?
@@doom4uall On this car you can't feel any weird switching between hydraulic braking and electric braking like how Toyota hybrids feel. Which is nice. It's so much more smooth and linear.
Like your videos. I have the same 2022 accord hybrid sport. It's just a fun car to drive. knowing how high gas is it makes you want to get the best mileage you can. Sometimes I wish I got the 2.0 turbo instead but overall I think I made the right choice getting the hybrid.
Personally, I care about smiles per gallon more than miles per gallon.
@@monkito69 me too. It’s like a mental thing for me. Like a video game. How much miles I can get with a gallon lol
I had the 2.0 T and I don’t miss it. 21 mpg compared to 44 mpg is the way to go.
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Here's a question for you from another Honda Accord Hybrid owner. Mine is a 2017, which is the first year that they did the major hybrid system redesign, and mechanically it hasnt changed much through 2022 from what I understand. The main difference is that the 2017 is the old 2012 body style with the new hybrid mechanicals and a 15.8 gallon gas tank, which is bigger than when the 2018 and newer were remade. I can literally go 650 miles on a tank. It's awesome.
Here is my question: Let's say you need to do a long highway drive. What is the optimal speed for you to set the cruise at for the highest MPG? Assume you will be using cruise control and there is very little other traffic. My experience over 70k miles tells me that the sweet spot is somewhere between 55 and 65 miles per hour, where you will get close to 45 mpg on a pretty flat drive. Hills will complicate things, of course. If I push it to 70 or 75, my mileage drops down to like 35. I am curious if you ever tried to test this out yourself on the highway? If you reset the trip meter every 5-10 minutes or so during your drive, you can get a good estimate of what the optimal speed mpg is. Give it a try and let me know how you do!
Hi if you drive around 75 mph on the highway and get around 35mpg is this during the winter or summer months? Also what is your average mpg in the city average speed around 50 mpg? Thank you
2014 was the first year for the hybrid system. It was a plug-in that Honda dropped in 2016, and brought back without the plug in 2017. They also tweaked the engine and motor a little.
There is no clear "sweet spot" for mpg at highway speeds - slower is better. But that is because of aerodynamics, not the system itself. To see why, you need to differentiate between engine efficiency (gas in, to energy out of engine) from what is incorrectly called "fuel efficiency" (gas in, to miles driven).
Cruising in any car needs more power as you drive faster, but an engine gets more efficient as it produces more power, up to a point. Your engine's sweet spot is 54 mph (that's 2000 rpm in Engine Drive), where the engine needs 208.1 grams of fuel per kilowatt-hour of energy produced.
But it stays below 210 grams between about 40 mph and 75 mph, and this is why these speeds corresponds to Engine Drive. Since engine efficiency does not change significantly in this range, any changes in mpg are due mostly to aerodynamics, and differences in how much gets lost to heat in the battery. Between 40 and 55, it should be fairly constant. Going from 55 to 75, it drops slightly. And it drops more, the more often you change speeds (that is, you aren't really cruising). Above 75 mph, enfine efficiency starts to go down as well.
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I have same vehicle as you and from my experience driving 80 highway miles per day the optimum speed is 67mph in cruise. I get best mileage when outside temperature is is anywhere between 72-82 degrees. Depending on the traffic I've gotten as much as 54mpg driving 40 highway miles.
My wife gets 58mpg city without even trying, I can't get that but I guess her natural style of driving is great for this type of vehicle.
Hybrid. Waiting for my 2023 CR-V hybrid. Very helpful, especially downshift vs braking. 👍
What did the dealership tell you the wait time was for delivery ?
@@chubbychicken5585 October but early days I’m thinking. No etched in stone, though I am on a list.
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I’ve been breaking trying to keep my needle at or above the a white line in the green while stopping thing that charged the batter faster. Can’t wait to try down shifting!
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I'm averaging well over 47 in Miami traffic on my 2024 crv hybrid sport L. My secret is to keep my foot off the brake as much as posible and stay under 65mph. Got to work with its strong points.
I haven’t read through the comments but I know it’s a bit obsessive but here in Colorado if you turn off the cabin(interior) heat you will stay in EV about 25% longer. The naturally aspirated engine has to run to keep you warm.
Yah that makes sense
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It’s not downshifting it’s regeneration braking
Before I posted I scrolled down and said.. I know I'm not the only one that knows this..
What PSI are your tires set at? Have you experimented with different gasolines? I got my 2022 Accord hybrid a few weeks ago (love it), just filled up for the first time. Avg was 5.2L / 100 KM on the first tank. Rated for 5.0, but people forget if you have family in the car with you 90% of the time (2 car seats, 2 kids, + wife) all of these things impact your efficiency compared to laboratory theoreticals.
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Thanks! Waiting for delivery of our CR-V hybrid.
Good choice! Best of luck!
should you warm up the engine in the morning before driving?
can you describe the braking power and what it does to the battery and how to properly use or what that means?
Does the paddle reset after each time you stop the car, or does it remember the setting?
the 2022 Insight hybrid resets at full stop,
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I own this as well, my basic driving skill is when you throttle down and the engine turns on, leave it and re-step it. the electric motor will back to work again.
You don’t need to be doing all this downshifting, downshifting regenerates the same amount of energy as using the brakes except it generates it in the “efficient zone” .. you’re pressing your brakes too hard and going into the non efficient zone and probably going into using your actual brakes, don’t let the regen needle pass 70% and youll see significantly higher mpg due to more regen energy stored
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Just try to get use to using your break regen system that helps also. I alway have mine to one below the max.
Aye great videos, can you answer me these questions, much appreciate
I intend to buy a CRV HEV 24 and these features kinda confused me
1.When to use B and D?
2.If I dont switch to B, would my electric motor still running?
3.Can you explain more about (-) and (+) part. I read CRV HEV manual book and it said if you want to increase more energy, and slow the car, press (+); (-) is vice versa
4.Can you tell me the cost of maintaining Honda HEV vehicles, cuz technically if we have 2 motors, it would be way more costly to maintain the car
Hybrid, i have a Honda CRV 2024...I NEEDED THAT INFO. THANK YOU!❤
I DO THE SAME THING......Great advice :)
Only PROBLEM, that I don't like, is that when one hits the paddle shifters to slow down, the BRAKE LIGHTS DO NOT ENGAGE. Drivers behind you DO NOT KNOW.😮
That’s a good thing too tho bro. That way the cops don’t know you’re speeding. Unless they have the speed gun. 😮
I see the truth in it...thank you.. I never really considered that.
Wish there was a mod. Fit another battery pack, and Plug in Hybrid option.
Thoughts everyone?
Love my Honda Hybrid.
Just got a 2023 Hybrid Touring. Of course, this one has the 19" wheel and tire package - an mpg thief! Averaging 43 mpg in 100 miles in city and easy urban driving 50/50. I noticed my battery level meter never seems to go over 1/2 "full". Is this normal?
It could be normal
Just make sure you downshift as much as possible to recharge the battery
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This guy really doesn't know what he is talking about. There are three reasons why he got 74.5 mpg on this trip: (A) It was only 3 miles, averaging 25 mph in a 35 mph zone, (B) A lot of it was downhill, and (3) He started with the battery at 80% and ended at 40% (This means some of the gas he "used" was burned on his last trip, and does not show up in the trip computer. It was enough to drive about a mile at these speeds. So he really did about 50 mpg; still impressive, but not what he implies.)
(My credentials: 2018 Accord Hybrid averaging 48 mpg over 50,000+ miles in all conditions.)
The best "trick" is that you do want to change speeds slowly. Accelerating slowly keeps the engine in its efficiency band, and braking slowly means the car uses more regen braking (even with the brake pedal; the paddles do not cause it to happen and do not do any better than braking at the same rate with the pedal). The "trick" you don't want to use is trying to make the car run in EV Drive ("EV mode" is when you push the idiot button to force EV Drive).
When the engine runs in low-power (or high-power) situations it is about 30% efficient. But it is 40% efficient in medium-power situations. The problem is, that most driving is a low-power situation. So the Accord Hybrid will still run the engine at medium power and use the excess to charge the battery. You can see this happening in the Power Flow Monitor. So the "blue" portion that goes directly to the wheels is 40% efficient. The "green" portion that goes to the battery, and back at a later time, suffers maybe an additional 25% loss, putting it back at 30% efficient.
The point is that you only gain on the blue portion, not the green portion.
The computer will try to maintain the State of Charge in the battery within a small portion of its range. If it gets too high, you can't use regen effectively. If it gets too low, you might not have power when you need it. Where these limits are depends on the drive mode you choose. In ECON, the SoC stays between 30% and 50% most of the time. This is perfectly normal. In NORMAL, these limits are a little higher. In SPORT, the lower limit is about 50% and there is no upper limit.
Your 2023 lets you customize these details in the INDIVIDUAL mode.
Sigh. The more relevant question here is this his typical everyday drive? Prob not, but over time this technique with this technology will save him a significant amount of money. Good for him, he gets an extra vacation or whatever.
hi, my dad has a honda grace 2015 hybrid (its called a honda city in some places) and the gearbox went dead. what caused this problem?
When do you fill up your gas tank and charge your ev part also how often
The EV part charges when you brake and downshift!
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@@StackWithMe seriously? I didn’t know that!!! Only gotta fill up the gas tank I assume
@@PayneKilla94 yah brother that's the beauty of a hybrid! And when you drive in town you use the battery part the most! So you save a lot of ⛽
@@StackWithMe wowww! Thanks brother but also how does driving on a expressway or various other roads
Drive with your foot on the gas while you’re stopping at a stop sign?
Curious how do we downshift and such.. when??
The paddle on the left tells it to down shift. The paddle on the right tells it to go up a gear you usually do it while trying to slow down or to catch a little charge in traffic or highway
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How did you get digital speedo on your car? I have 2020 accord hybrid and can only get digital speedo if I switch to kph
Nvm. Quick forum check says it’s 2021 and up
@MrTheSharkie makes sense
Hybrid: Thank you for the video, I purchased my car a week ago and I was not totally clear on how and when to use the downshift paddle.
So, to use your example from video, as I approach a stop I should still lightly press gas but use paddles to downshift or do I simply release the gas but still downshift? Sorry if that is a silly question but a lot of what’s this car offers is new to me.
Thanks again
When you come to a red light or stop sign. Start down shifting two times before you even start to apply the brake. Then as you get closer, you press the brake pedal.
I downshift the paddle anytime possible, instead of touching the brake pedal. This benefits not only fuel economy, but some drivers are reporting not needing a brake job until reaching 100K miles.
My mileage seem to get bigger fast is that normal ?
I only get like 36 out of my 17 touring hybrid.
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Looks like you are mostly downhill?
What it means when it get close to the L??
What extenders are you using for behind the wheel paddles? Regards
Did you got it??
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Will it damage the battery life by doing this ?
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You don't show how to switch from EV to gas mode.
My speedometer is in km/h, can anyone please tell me how to switch it to mph for a 2019 accord hybrid?
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What is this Honda model?
I say its the best one in my opinion Chris!
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Is there a way to completely get out of this mode? It kicked in for the first time after having the car a week when i drove out if town. It’s like driving with resistance. I need to travel home today & will be on the interstate, but can’t get it to drive normally. Is there s button to press to get it out of this mode? Please help
Its what Tesla advertises as a great feature, called "one-pedal driving." Just don't release the accelerator all the way to control deceleration.
But if you don't like it, either use ECON or NORMAL mode (it cancels when you accelerate again) or in SPORT use the right paddle to decrease it.
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@@StackWithMe I had a Honda hybrid sport. I traded it for the sport. I had lots of issues with screen randomly blacking out. It was bad
@@MsBdoll87 oh wow sorry to hear. Did you do any upgrades to your car, intake, exhaust?
I thought the thumbnail was edited because of the 420 miles of range but I guess not 😂
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Dude your video has no sound for the first few minutes. I dunno what's going on.
May aswell get a push bike.
45 seconds of your video doesn't have audio
Copyright reasons :/ lol
Id fuck w/ it this car is mine now
Ugh... considering a hybrid Accord but this looks like a pain in the butt.
He is just showing you how to get the best mpg. Don't think you have to drive like this. Its only if your trying to get the best mileage possible. This car drives like any regular gas engine. If you drive normal you will get up to 45mpg in the city and 36-40 hwy. I have the same car and sometimes you will try to get the best mpg but most of the time I just drive normal and get the mpg I just showed. It's a great car. I've had mine for 8 months and if I had a choice I'd buy it again.
Yes exactly, well said. I love driving this car in sport mode as well.
How much range or miles do you get every time you fill up? And whats’s you average mpg
I get 500 miles and my avg range is 50 mpg
@@StackWithMe that’s insane. Straight off the lot i had 560 then it gradually went down within couple of months to 500 then 480. Now I get 470 and barely 36 mpg
@@Tobias-sb8pr what's your average speed?
@@Tobias-sb8pr ikkkk
@@StackWithMe its a 12.8gal engine so 500 miles would be 39mpg not 50. ?
I bought a Honda hybrid 2024 crv i don't want to be taught how to hyper mile and drive around at a effort level i just want to drive and the gas mileage is abysmal.i can drive like a crazy person coasting down hills but this is ridiculous. Why didn't I get a RAV4 those get good accurate mileage with non of this feathering garbage
On your screen, you displayed 41.6mpg - THAT is your "true" mpg - not the one that is displayed on the current cluster. You don't have to show me how to drive - as I do a mixed city/hwy travel everyday and still avg far better than 41.6 / more like 48.8mpg on a tank.
Sure, when driving at an avg speed of 25mph - you can achieve great mpg. However, those moments are short lived. Short drives are never good for any vehicle with combustion. It takes quite a while for the engine to get up to operating temp to see efficient HWY mpg.
WHO is buying aftermarket paddle shifters for regen? That's pointless...that actually contributes to the overall cost.
WHO drives like this? but you...
Nah I just want to drive, don’t want to have to think about driving for maximum mileage. This looks like nix picking for maximum mileage.
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Hybird…what is the difference between the blue and green on the power flow meter?
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