Fixing the Gym Leaders of Gen 1 Pokémon!

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    I Fixed Kanto’s AWFUL Gym Leaders

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  • @smithplayspokemon
    @smithplayspokemon  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

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    • @gregbaxter6162
      @gregbaxter6162 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Hello fresh sucks. Stop looking for a quick buck

    • @Panikdemet
      @Panikdemet 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Golem for giovanni or bruno please

    • @mokarokas-1727
      @mokarokas-1727 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@gregbaxter6162 Are you thick? It's not about "a quick buck", it's about getting income so making videos can be his job. That way he can entertain us AND have a life. lol

    • @smithplayspokemon
      @smithplayspokemon  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@PanikdemetI gotchu

    • @basnaspe4578
      @basnaspe4578 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You got quite a point. I mean...was Golem like ever in any important pokemon fight in the game?
      I think in the base game it could have been brutal (RBY) because of how common normal attacks are, but you quickly reach a point of getting grass/water moves which is like an instant kill for it. So it should be looked for counter moves for grass and water pokemon if it gets implemented.@@Panikdemet

  • @redwings13400
    @redwings13400 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +500

    Not only does Giovanni own a massive underground base, he also straight up owns the game corner. Which is where you get the most expensive TMs in the game.
    So yeah, I think Giovanni having access to every single TM he'd ever need is pretty lore-accurate

    • @WesM369
      @WesM369 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Considering he's also the leader of a nation-wide crime ring, I doubt he'd have much trouble obtaining them even if he didn't already own them 😂

    • @basnaspe4578
      @basnaspe4578 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What makes you even think he paid for them. @@WesM369

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Speaking of that, why Thunderbolt on Rhydon when it has access to Body Slam? Its Special is pretty garbage so you're best off going for EQ or Rock Slide even against targets weak against Electric.

    • @Shalakor
      @Shalakor 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ShiningJudgment666 There is some argument to be made for it being about sending a message over being supported by the Pokemon's statistics. Very mafia.

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Shalakor I suppose. But then again, why not Blizzard or Ice Beam in that case? Even if they're weak off its Special stat, there's the Freeze chance and Gen 1 Freeze is broken.

  • @Unholychaos987
    @Unholychaos987 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +376

    Blaine not having Magmar in Gen 1, especially Yellow, felt so wrong on so many levels! I wish there was an appropriate storyline encounter that could make use of Electabuzz as well, but c'est la vie...

    • @aceclover758
      @aceclover758 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Yes it was always weird to me
      And outside of Blue, no way to encounter a magmar outside of train

    • @silversteel8160
      @silversteel8160 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Maybe you could if you made the gym trainer right before the electric fence have one as a psudo-gym leader team before fighting Surge

    • @hopelessamaturerougeofhope4399
      @hopelessamaturerougeofhope4399 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      He doesn't have a magmar in yellow?
      Bruh blaines magmar was a complete menace in the anime that's such a missed opportunity

    • @zinniaq3020
      @zinniaq3020 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@hopelessamaturerougeofhope4399Yellow was released before the episode was planned to that part no longer followed the anime

    • @pattersong6637
      @pattersong6637 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      It's a real shame that Electabuzz is just too good for a gym as early as Lt. Surge.

  • @pizzahutkidman8806
    @pizzahutkidman8806 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    I am all for adding Butterfree onto Eirka's team. It fits the vibe of Erika and the lack of any bug or flying type trainers means it's not gonna be on a major battle otherwise. Plus having three poison/grass types feels redunt and vileplume and virtbell are pretty iconic to her. I think Eggxcute could also work for her but that's neither here nor there.

  • @commonviewer2488
    @commonviewer2488 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +132

    I love the idea of Lt. Surge throwing out a single OP Pokémon and telling you "if you can beat this one, the badge is yours."

    • @denman2991
      @denman2991 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      then you just bring one of the ground types the game offers before Surge and 1-2 shot the guy ( in OG Yellow )

  • @JaharNarishma
    @JaharNarishma 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    What I like about these videos is that the justifications presented do make a lot of sense. They are very reasonable.

    • @smithplayspokemon
      @smithplayspokemon  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      Really appreciate that! I try my best, so to have that acknowledged really goes a long way!

  • @CarnageO31
    @CarnageO31 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    I'd almost like to see Misty with a wartortle if Erica and Blaine get their respective type starters. Still I think your changes will make things a lot more interesting.

    • @krisrk1
      @krisrk1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Or a Squirtle since she’s early game. It would then also be all Smash fighters: Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard.

    • @uninstaller2860
      @uninstaller2860 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      So true! Squirtle for Misty, Ivysaur for Erica and Charizard for Blaine. I would love that

    • @sahvion1499
      @sahvion1499 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All great ideas.

    • @DrTimes99
      @DrTimes99 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I was coming down to the comments to suggest Squirtle for Misty once I saw him give Blaine Charizard. Given the player character will be collecting the original starters, having a stage from each one featured on a leader's team seems appropriate.

    • @Shalakor
      @Shalakor 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean, the second Gym Leader fight doesn't really need any more Pokemon on the team, while at least the Ivysaur is already teetering on the chopping block anyway, but Squirtle is cool. ...Honestly, though, with all starters being gift Pokemon, kinda makes having them on Gym Leader teams not really needed as far as representation goes. Would maybe prefer to see it show up on the Gym Trainers instead if anywhere, and also any pre-evolutions dropped from the Leader's team, like Staryu from Misty to one of her Trainers.
      On a huge side-tangent related to this project, one of the really cool details that the Let's Go games did over Yellow is made Misty's Gym Trainers represent her three sisters from the anime. ...Interestingly, the moveset philosophy in that game actually matches the all out offense Smith decided to honor as well, basically being the same as what he picked but not limited to Gen 1 moves.

  • @bigsmoke44gaming44
    @bigsmoke44gaming44 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Sabrina sure got stronger now, good thing Caterpie now learns Cut and can easily sweep her 😎

    • @basnaspe4578
      @basnaspe4578 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      solo caterpie run incoming

    • @Swrdfshtrmbns
      @Swrdfshtrmbns 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😎

  • @felman87
    @felman87 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I'm glad you gave Blaine a Magmar. It never made sense that he didn't have one, considering you can catch one right next door.

  • @MP-tw4fc
    @MP-tw4fc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Love these changes.
    Ivysaur works on Erika, but I would give my vote to butterfree instead. Both fit her theme well enough and I feel like her being forced to take so many poison types, while there being a poison gym, is weighing her down.

  • @ebilgaming
    @ebilgaming 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I am very concerned by how overly buffed you made Onix.
    First off, now its base stat total is higher than Rhydon and Golem. It also is given a new 100% accurate rock throw with stab for 75 BP rock throw while the ONLY pokemon you can have with a rock resist at this stage of the game is Mankey, a pretty frail pokemon.
    This is going to turn his onix into a Whitney's Miltank situation, but on the first gym leader while players don't yet have access to reliable grass or water type pokemon to exploit its multiple x4 weaknesses. This will be a very brutal fight now. Also its now able to take special hits better than Golem and Rhydon.
    For Giovonii's team, I think giving his Rhydon Thunderbolt is a total trap. This is because the monstrous 130 attack stab Earthquake or Rockslide will do more dmg than his pathetic 45 special stat thunderbolts. Using either EQ or Rockslide would do more damage against any pokemon, even the insanely high defense with low special defense cloister will take more dmg from the Rockslide than thunderbolt. However with Giovonni having good AI, he will always priortize thunderbolt even when it will do less damage than EQ or Rockslide, such as vs a Starmie.
    Instead, giving it Substitute or Body Slam (For higher paralysis chance) may be a smarter choice.

  • @masterx6883
    @masterx6883 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Onix was always a cool pokemon but it was impossible to use because of terrible stats, good job to you for making it useable

    • @malcomchase9777
      @malcomchase9777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      There's a really cool video about that. Onyx was made as a tutorial boss, not a usable pokemon. Given that the original idea was normal moves were "basic attacks" and elemental moves were "spells/special attacks", Onyx is there to teach you not to spam tackle. Given this is made for fans of the game, it doesn't need to fill that role anymore, of course.

  • @Alienldr
    @Alienldr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    To make grass types not feel so weak in the game, i recommend removing confusion from either Misty's Psyduck or Starmie. Just one of them. By the time you get grass types, they only are good against Misty and Giovanni. And if out of 5 pokemon in Misty's gym, 3 of them have a counter to grass (goldeen's peck), that means grass types will struggle in the one thing they're good at.
    It may not be much, removing one move from one battle, but it might be enough to make people feel grass types were more useful in their playthrough.

  • @EvanlavaHD175
    @EvanlavaHD175 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I’m happy these type of videos are back, because I love videos like this.

  • @shaunduzstuffs
    @shaunduzstuffs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I can already tell that Onix is definitely too strong for an early game encounter. 80 base attack and 95 base speed is insane for the first gym

    • @isuckatgaming1873
      @isuckatgaming1873 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Starmie is arguably worse, and it's already there in the Base game.
      The thing about the base stats is that the gap between pokemon with low bst and high bst isn't that large at low levels, only being a difference of 3 to 4 points in a stat. Imo, It really just makes onix an actual pokmeon later in the game.
      As a side note, it seems oddish and poliwag were added to route before Brock.

    • @shaunduzstuffs
      @shaunduzstuffs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@isuckatgaming1873 Imo the point of Onix is for it to be a bulky defensive Pokémon
      Buffing its HP is definitely the right call and its attack, too, but base 95 speed is overkill for what it is

    • @isuckatgaming1873
      @isuckatgaming1873 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shaunduzstuffs I think I would agree in that case, the 95 base speed isn't necessary for onix's original intention
      The is some precedent, seeing as it's vanilla base speed is 70 and it also has gen 1 wrap/bind utility, but it does seem unnecessary

    • @Alienldr
      @Alienldr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hypothetically, I agree. However, that's why they've been doing balance playthroughs. They want Onix to not be one shot, but if he keeps killing pokemon who are supposed to counter it, then the stats would have been lowered. So, counters like Mankey and poliwag must still be able to kill it more often than not.

    • @Wockes
      @Wockes 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, 1st gym is about teaching the player how to play. It isn't supposed to be difficult, that's for the rest of the gyms

  • @MadMalMan
    @MadMalMan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    New Solarbeam looks awesome, great change, and when combined with sleep will be brutal.
    But do we want to remove Vileplumes signature move? Its pretty good and you don't see many signature moves so showcasing them when they appear can be quite good.

  • @willbrooks5682
    @willbrooks5682 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As always, amazing work by Smith and the team - very excited to get to play this version of Yellow when it drops
    Some minor suggestions I would have for Gym Leader teams are:
    Misty - Change Goldeen for Horsea, as she also has a Horsea in the anime, and it ties into her Kingdra in Crystal Legacy.
    Erika - Change Ivysaur for a Butterfree with a STAB flying move. As mentioned by many others, a butterfly aesthetically fits perfectly for her, but it also checks someone looking to run a bug sweep.
    Koga - If there are dynamic levels for the Gym Leaders, maybe add a Scyther if he's fought 6th/7th? Granted, it's not a poison type but it is very ninja-like with it's speed and sword arms. Avoids him getting swept by grounds/psychics too.

  • @johnnycage112
    @johnnycage112 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Please let up rematch the gym leaders. I love doing that.

  • @ruthlesace
    @ruthlesace 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So for koga, the reason i think they had so many venonats then the venomoth was to stimulate the venonat getting stronger and evolving mid fight. It was thematic because it was like fighting it until it evolved just like the anime.

  • @Terminaut1
    @Terminaut1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think for Koga and Sabrina, the venonats were supposed to feel like the same mon in different rounds that eventually "evolves" mid battle. For Sabrina, she has an abra that evolves into Kadabra which finally evolves into Alakazam. I think it was a thematic choice.

    • @Oscar92839
      @Oscar92839 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Heh as NOW elite 4 imma just leave it to janine

  • @scarecrowsurprise
    @scarecrowsurprise 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hear me out, but I think Erica should have had a Parasect, it fits her gym style, and its x4 weakness doesn't really change much as you'd most likely be using a flying or fire type in this gym anyway.
    You then give it Spore, Toxic, Mega drain, and leech-life. This means that it would act like a parasite, slowly ebbing away at your health, and a nightmare to face for non-flying/firetypes as it would continually heal itself and either poison your or put you to sleep. Especially if you put it at a higher level.

  • @DrakeManastorm
    @DrakeManastorm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    An idea, in the anime it says that a gym leader has many teams to match however many badges the challenger has. So what teams would the Kanto gym leaders use against a trainer looking for the 8th badge at their gym?

  • @David_the_Psalmist
    @David_the_Psalmist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I kind of wish Giovanni’s Nidoqueen knew surf, if only in remembrance of the time it kamehameha’d Red’s Charizard in episode 3 of Origins.

  • @Seth6000
    @Seth6000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You will give Jessie & James Lickitung & Victreebel, right? 😃

    • @keepkcool
      @keepkcool 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I hope as well!

  • @sam_bamalam
    @sam_bamalam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love these changes! They feel so true to the game's vision, with just the right amount of hindsight guiding the decision-making process. I especially love how you consider the lore that the game presents you as both justification and guidance.

  • @moralessanchezoscarelias6412
    @moralessanchezoscarelias6412 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Status changing moves are secretly great in Gen 1. Because any stat change reset the bonus that the badges provide. Therefore, the move Flash in a lategame boss battle makes a lot of sense.

  • @wessac1627
    @wessac1627 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    surf thunderbolt is absurdly strong this gen in the level 20s. there are very few pokemon with high enough special to survive this other than ivysaur

  • @scarecrowsurprise
    @scarecrowsurprise 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Even in Blue version I thought Koga's team was weak, why has he got two Koffin's, and why has Agatha got an Arbok?
    It would have made more sense to give Koga Arbok, and then maybe give Agatha either a Marowak, due to its connection to the ghost type, or a hypno, due to its creepy lore.

  • @theserpent8667
    @theserpent8667 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Could Arcanine in Crystal Legacy be downgraded to second-in-command to Magmar, so that there's not 2 gym leaders in a row with Arcanine as the ace?

    • @uninstaller2860
      @uninstaller2860 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I would love to see that!

    • @intergalactic92
      @intergalactic92 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Isn’t Blaine’s ace Moltres?

    • @theserpent8667
      @theserpent8667 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@intergalactic92 In Crystal Legacy. But otherwise it's Magmar.

  • @TR_DJ
    @TR_DJ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can you lower onix stats from 540-495/480 because a pokemon with those stats on 1 first gym leader team seems absurd to me and too much of a buff

    • @uninstaller2860
      @uninstaller2860 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can play around with levels

  • @rishabhanand4973
    @rishabhanand4973 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    5:39 especially since in the anime, they can take creative liberties in making lower stage pokemon more powerful than normal, sometimes even more powerful than their own evolved forms when in the ownership of a strong trainer. the games cannot

  • @drdandalf
    @drdandalf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I think that Persian should know a Psychic move to really make it tough....

    • @SonBlackHeart22
      @SonBlackHeart22 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Iirc Persian does not learn any psychic moves in gen 1

    • @drdandalf
      @drdandalf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@SonBlackHeart22 Giovanni does what he wants lol

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I know this is a joke, but Persian is literally running its most optimal moveset in this fight.

  • @jmerridew124
    @jmerridew124 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Mixing your ad into the actual content is the kind of evil genius we shouldn't encourage

    • @amberhernandez
      @amberhernandez 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What a shame, I seem to have missed all of Surge's fight. I hope things went well against the raid boss Raichu.

  • @MarkyVigoroth
    @MarkyVigoroth 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I prefer the old Thumbnail, since that appeared more accurate to the current generation.

  • @BobbyCarHater
    @BobbyCarHater 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1:30
    why would you let Bruno keep using Onix?
    You have enough fighting types to fill his team without onix

    • @amiciyopre
      @amiciyopre 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Onix is ​very iconic in Bruno's team, and it gives him coverage against the Flying Type and explain the origin of his Steelix in Crystal Legacy.

  • @Edafe-p9i
    @Edafe-p9i 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think these choices are solid, but I think my picks could improve these teams even more
    - Brock, Lt. Surge, and Giovani is fine with your changes.
    -Misty should have a team of Psyduck, plus the edition of Seadra, as this line barley has any representation in the Gen 1 games.
    _ Erica should have a team of Tangela, Victribell, and Exeggcute to avoid doubling up on Psychic weakness
    -Koga team should be Venomoth, Golbat, and Bedrill. Beedrill included to deal with Psychics
    -Sabrina team should have Hypno, Exeggtour, Kadabra, and Mr. Mine
    -Blaine team should consisted of Ninetalies, Arcinite, Rapidash, and of course Magmar.

  • @blackcat_064
    @blackcat_064 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    One thing I never understood about Yellow, which you have kept in this mod, is the weird level jump in the mid-game from around 30 to 50

    • @Alienldr
      @Alienldr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It was always weird. Most games the 8th gen is maybe around 50 or less. But in yellow, the 5th gym is level 50.

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's at least a lot to do in the mid-game. But it is pretty sharp.

    • @dontmisunderstand6041
      @dontmisunderstand6041 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The simple answer is that it's not the midgame at all. Your badges don't accurately measure how close to the end you are, you get badges 5 6 7 and 8 all in quick succession as part of the end-game boss rush. The midgame is the point between SS Anne and Silph Co.

    • @Alienldr
      @Alienldr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @dontmisunderstand6041 it's not so much that we're supposed to beat the last 4 gyms one after another. The idea is that they are upping the difficulty by forcing us to fight them while being underleveled, since people think Koga was easy with ground and Psychic types. After the path from lavender to Fuschia, the bike path, silph Co, and the fighting dojo, we are only expected to be in the lower 40's. So the issue isn't really the game setting them so high that we can't keep up. The issue is us wanting to catch up in the first place. If we were supposed to match them, then Giovanni wouldn't only be 5 levels higher 3 gyms later.

    • @dontmisunderstand6041
      @dontmisunderstand6041 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Alienldr No no, you literally are supposed to fight them all back to back. It's literally not possible to NOT fight Sabrina and Giovanni back to back, Koga locks Blaine, and even Koga is scaled above Silph Co, which is the last fight in the game that doesn't either give you a badge or is directly in the way of becoming Champion. They're literally designed to be the last 10 fights of the game. And that's pretty wild considering there are more than 60 mandatory battles in the game. Viewed through that lens, gym 5 is actually 85% of the way to the end of the game.

  • @Fossilite
    @Fossilite 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'd love to see vulpix added to Brock's team as a little nod to the anime

  • @gatorcadi
    @gatorcadi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m so pumped for Yellow Legacy! I absolutely loved nuzlocking Crystal Legacy. Live streams and relays have been awesome too to get a sneak under the hood of what you and the team are cooking up!

  • @TheDeathmail
    @TheDeathmail 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You do realize Sabrina's team was "abracadabra alakazam" before you changed it, right???
    So you had to kill the joke... and thus, making the team worse...

  • @Sci1211
    @Sci1211 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think for Brock just give Onix rock throw and give players the opportunity to catch water and grass types beforehand

  • @ZonamaPrime
    @ZonamaPrime 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's more unacceptable about Erika not having fully evolved teams, she lives in Celadon City, right near the store that sells the necessary stones!

  • @forsetimaster0689
    @forsetimaster0689 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video is really awesome. I've had my own ideas for Gen I Romhacking before and I'm so happy someone who has a similar respect for flavor vs. gameplay is finaly doing a big Romhack. That being said, I have a few suggestions:
    1. Give Misty's Starmie Confuse Ray or Recover. Confuse Ray would be a great way to give Misty more options while keeping her offensive theme, while Recover would give her a healing option at a point in the game that isn't terribly common.
    2. Give Lt. Surge more Pokemon. I know the whole "keep the spirit of the original fight intact" thing, but Surge really needs more than a single mon to even stand a chance against a Nidoking or a Dugtrio, both of which the player has access to at a high level by this point. My reccomendations would be Voltorb and Magnemite, since they can at least do some damage to them with Sonic Boom and offer Thunder Wave support for everything else.
    3. Ditch Koga's Golbat for Tentacruel. Coverage in general is honestly super important in Gen I, and STAB Surf would be way better than whatever Golbat can offer. I would also give Sabrina Slowbro and Jynx (which she already had in LGPE) for similar reasons.
    Ultimately, it's your hack, so do whatever you want. Thanks for hearing me out though. :)

    • @basnaspe4578
      @basnaspe4578 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      2: surf

    • @forsetimaster0689
      @forsetimaster0689 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@basnaspe4578 That's fair. I still think the fight would be more interesting with more Pokemon, but I didn't think of that.

  • @livingweaponnightmare
    @livingweaponnightmare 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Giovanni's team is missing one Pokémon lol...but if he had that you werent getting that badge ever

  • @amberhernandez
    @amberhernandez 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Something to be wary of when giving boss mons Agility in gen 1 is the potential of making Poison/Fighting mons an auto-win. If they don't have a damaging super-effective move for either of those types, and they have gen 1's "good AI," they'll see Agility as a super-effective move and spam it, which will essentially neutralise them.
    Given that the only other existing AI in gen 1 randomly picks its moves, I'm hoping there's a plan to make better AI for a true new experience.

  • @BruhMoment-mn9kn
    @BruhMoment-mn9kn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro really 'cooked' with Giovanni's team! 💀

  • @HersheyandStuff
    @HersheyandStuff 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can't wait for this. Crystal legacy was one of the best balanced rom hacks out there.

  • @cartoonhead9222
    @cartoonhead9222 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Personally, I always thought it was stupid they never had 6 Pokemon.

  • @PalehorseThirteen
    @PalehorseThirteen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm kind of a Yellow hater, but I'm still really looking forward to this romhack. I'd also just like to voice an opinion that maybe you should rethink working with Hello Fresh in the future. They're well known for treating their workers poorly and are aggressively anti-union.

  • @armorbearer9702
    @armorbearer9702 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For Brock, I would switch out Bide with Rage. If the player lets Onix hit Rage too many times, then Onix may build up too much attack for the player's counters to work. This will teach new players to not let their opponents buff themselves beyond what they can handle.

  • @nazeersadek6705
    @nazeersadek6705 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love those changes!! You’ve been doing so many great stuff with those projects man

  • @cuerty654
    @cuerty654 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You should have given Giovanni Mewtwo, and after he loses, when you talk again with him, change the dialog when he dissapears, to reflect that Mewtwo escaped or something like that.

  • @AvalosTokyo
    @AvalosTokyo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pikachu always eats his breakfast, a breakfast of POKEMON LEAGUE champions.

  • @JDFrank20Diaz
    @JDFrank20Diaz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can you make the AI Hard on all these Gym Leaders cause
    LT Surge and Sabrina had bad AI which meant easy wins
    I'm glad you removed items cause Guard Spec what where they thinking for Giovanni
    The Ai doesn't have to be Radical Red Hard just make it challenging

  • @moogle2876
    @moogle2876 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some fun changes in here. Here are some ideas from me~
    - The idea of one overlevelled, strong for that point of the game, boss pokemon is really good for the earlier gyms before you have strong pokemon yourself and it might work for Starmie itself. I'd drop one of Misty's mons and raise the Starmie level by 4. Would really encourge you to keep Pikachu with you just so you can Thunder Wave this beast for the rest of your squad to whittle down.
    - Exeggutor would be a really cool choice for Erika and an early indicator to how dangerous Psychic types are before the Sabrina fight. It gives the player more reason to want to bring a Bug Type to the gym too!
    - Tentacruel is another cool choice for Koga, that mon lives in the sea right outside his house and its nice special might prevent him getting completely bowled over by anyone using the Psychic TM you just picked up in Saffron. Koga having 5 mons for one of the most repped (and bad) types in the game seems fine to me too.
    - A stat buff for Magmar would be needed otherwise the 7th gym leaders ace is weaker than the 1st gym leaders ace. The moveset it's using doesn't allow it to use its solid 95 base attack either, which is higher than its base 85 special. I would drop Confuse Ray for a physical move like Body Slam or Submission. Magmar is so frail it can't really afford to be using a turn for a luck based move. Maybe making it the ultimate glass cannon by lowering its terrible defenses further but give it boosts to attack, special and speed is the play?
    - Normal Type not having a boss rep despite it contesting the Psychic type as the best type in Gen 1 and having a ton of good mons feels wrong. What could be fun is utilizing Giovanni as a Ground AND Normal gym where he can use Persian, his RBY Kangaskhan that mysteriously goes missing, & another fercious looking normal type like Snorlax or Tauros. Normal also encourages the use of a Fighting Type, one of the most neglected types in Gen 1, and Normal types learn a bunch of crazy moves which supports Giovanni having access to all the TM's even more.

  • @jaceb3106
    @jaceb3106 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m sorry I’m only to Onix with Brock and Onix was the right level strength for gym 1. Now it outclasses middle stage evos as a first gym

  • @GammaFoxNZ
    @GammaFoxNZ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really like the Onix buffs! Makes me excited to use it.

  • @Vollification
    @Vollification 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Misty: "I'm going on an all out offensive."
    Me as a kid: "Those *astards lied to me." - meme

  • @glebs
    @glebs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Brock's looking kinda scary. Are you adding more early-game encounters that are strong against Brock?

    • @shawn1851
      @shawn1851 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea he added a poliwag and i think oddish before first gym.

    • @masterx6883
      @masterx6883 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There’s Poliwag on the same route you find Mankey and Nidoran now

  • @Arcana_zero_studios
    @Arcana_zero_studios 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean, just give Brock some non-ground rock typed pokemon. Like both of the unevolved fossils. He's right next to a history museum it's perfect sense, just give them rock throw and maybe add a machop because they get used in mining operations or a Zubat from mount moon.

  • @tristanalain9239
    @tristanalain9239 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am not sure I fully agree with the Sabrina choices.
    To me it seems like Abra was designed as bait to trick an opponent they had to only worry about over-leveled damage sponges before getting nuked by the other two. The game design intent seemed more around the intent to using Abra's useless moveset to set up against, thus teaching the player the true benefit of stat boosting moves, as most of us just ya know, punched everything as hard as possible with no finese
    I would keep Abra as is as the lead and make Sabirina slightly more dangerous and have an NPC in the gym say something like
    "SABRINA likes to toy with her opponents at the start of her matches. Maybe if your POKEMON could increase their stats during battle would give you a better chance at taking her down when she starts getting serious." As post battle text.
    It would also be a nice nod to the anime and how welll...kinda pyschotic Sabrina originally seemed and traping her opponents as toys in her doll house to "play" with when they lose.

  • @AzureFlute
    @AzureFlute 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not sure I like the idea of Blaine having a Charizard with Seismic Toss. I get that it's an anime reference, but it's not Blaine using the Charizard with Seismic Toss in the anime. It feels very bizarre to have on his team even with the reasoning that it's an anime nod.
    I like most of the other changes though

  • @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli
    @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why does he keep calling a move set a "learnset"?
    The learnset is all the level up and TM moves a Pokémon can learn.
    Not the 4 that they currently know... That's just their move set. Lol

  • @XellossBoi
    @XellossBoi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A beautifully intergrated sponsor. I wish more channels did it like that. Love the work you're doing on Yellow!

  • @Nightmster
    @Nightmster 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm sorry but the whole changes to Onix and Brock are a bit missing the point. Onix is *meant* to be all defense and not much else to teach people about physical and special attacks. Just buffing him so much misses the point of it being a sort of tutorial boss that can be beaten if you know what you're doing

    • @masterx6883
      @masterx6883 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This ROM is meant for people who are already fans of the game. It’d be silly to keep it as an easy, cheeseable tutorial boss when everyone playing the game already knows type matchups.

  • @LucasGarciaSantos-xe4np
    @LucasGarciaSantos-xe4np 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, you have to put a fire TM before you get the Eevee, part of the reason that makes Flareon so awful in comparision with the other eeveelutions is that you don't have a STAB to teach him, like bubblebeam for vaporeon and thunderbolt for jolteon, before level 31, which is Ember

  • @XyrnaTheTrainer
    @XyrnaTheTrainer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Didn’t expect that change to the poison/bug effectiveness, but that honestly makes sense!

  • @steegen101
    @steegen101 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Onix stat buffs are huge! Speed makes him scarier, but it doesn't make sense to be the FASTEST mon of the area.

  • @MassiveKittenFire-vw1cw
    @MassiveKittenFire-vw1cw 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sabrina and Erica are both terrifying now

  • @AwakenedL
    @AwakenedL 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Arcanine not being Blaine's ace because of the rival makes no sense. The same could be said for Alakazam and Rhydon.

  • @justinterry2926
    @justinterry2926 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello fresh is just expensive
    And you can cook the same food for far less

  • @browncow5210
    @browncow5210 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I dunno' man. Be careful buffing Brock and Misty. You're already pretty limited with your options to beat them. Confusion lets Starmie destroy the only good grass types available at that point, since they're half poison. Granted a buff to the starter Pikachu might solve the latter. Maybe Paras with actual STAB might help too.

    • @kildawg
      @kildawg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pika gets buffed here and Paras has actual STAB. Misty and her gym are Pikachu playground

  • @zenkresnik
    @zenkresnik 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never understood why gyms didn't have a progression system that challenges the player to learn new strategies. Each gym should be giving players an experience that makes them strategize.
    This is a very good step in that kind of direction.

  • @justsomejojo
    @justsomejojo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To be honest, I enjoy Bug's unique status in Gen1. There's just no other type that hits so many things in its generation for 2x or 4x damage, balanced by low power moves and generally low stat pokemon. That's one of the Gen1 quirks I like, so if I had any say in it, I'd rather not tamper with the type chart, but just not have high powered bug moves. Adding more low power bug moves so more bug body types can have sensical STAB (right now you need to either have needles or be a blood sucker) seems like a buff that buffs the type's presence while not breaking it.
    I know that's not the point of this video, but since you're making hacks (really nice ones I might add) I thought I'd chime in because I think it'd be sad to see Gen1's quirkiness go for balance in Yellow Legacy.

    • @luizfelipevbf5567
      @luizfelipevbf5567 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      > Balanced by low power moves
      Literally only one pokemon gets to use Bug moves and that is Jolteon with Pin Missile, Jolteon aside the only mon with a Bug move that isn't Leech Life us Beedrill, who is slow, frail and weak to the type it's supposed to counter.
      That is a miserable existence.

  • @SonBlackHeart22
    @SonBlackHeart22 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Happy Raichu got buffs one of my fav Electric types of gen 1. Also 180 powered Solarbeam is crazy O-O.

  • @HaughtyToast
    @HaughtyToast 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait, were all the grass types in gen I's early game given poison type just so Misty had a way to counter them? I always thought that made no sense for the Bulbasaur line and Oddish and I guess this would explain it.

  • @windcrest_
    @windcrest_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've always had a soft spot for Onix, so I'm glad to see it get more respectable stats. Gonna use it on my team for my first playthrough. I'm really looking forward to what else you have in store for Yellow Legacy!

  • @jinkoken
    @jinkoken 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My only complaint is that you used 2 of the starters and no squirtle for Misty, even though it's not super appropriate for her. I think you could slide a cheeky squirtle in there.
    Everything else is super solid and I love your changes to Giovanni. I am now scared of Brock though

  • @CalebBlack92
    @CalebBlack92 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kind of wish they’d boost Onix’s stats now. I understand not wanting the first gym to be too hard back in the Red/Blue/Yellow days but that doesn’t mean it needs to be weaker than several Pokémon that are no where near as intimidating as a giant rock snake. How does an 8 inch, 4.9 lbs Dedenne have a higher base stat total than 28’10”, 463 lbs Onix? I know the bigger Pokémon isn’t always the strongest but Dedenne, a mouse, has a higher attack stat than a giant rock snake.

  • @phantompop3192
    @phantompop3192 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly a big fan of these videos. It’s always so interesting to go back at the older games and see just how awful movesets were. Thank Arceus TMs were made reusable in Gen 5:

  • @chefc8371
    @chefc8371 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow. The menu sprites lol awesome. Bravo to whomever had that on their to do list 👏🏻

  • @PokeTaleG
    @PokeTaleG 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the buff to Brock, but I can’t help but feel that Onix’s BST is overkill. As it’s 50 BST points higher than the Final form starters. (Final Form Starters: 425. Onix: 475) (Special is one stat, remember.)
    I suggest lowering its Speed to 90, Special to 60, Attack to 70, and Defense to 120. This brings it to a powerful, but more reasonable 415. It’ll also make it a very fast Rock Type. Which paired with Rock Slide’s flinch chance, will keep it good.
    It’s just a suggestion, and you don’t need to listen to me, but I hope you’ll read my suggestion.

  • @SynchroPlays
    @SynchroPlays 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't like the stat changes on Onix. Onix now has more HP and more Attack than Steelix!
    Just change his movepool and keep Onix's Stats the Same as his Crystal Legacy counterpart!
    Crystal Legacy won't feel like a "sequel" to Yellow Legacy if You start changing some Pokemon Stats.
    Its fine to change Pokemon Stats, but at least keep it consistent throughout all Legacy Games.

  • @tom_7768
    @tom_7768 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do you beat onix reliably at level 12 in a nuzlocke setting.....

  • @JoeKell365
    @JoeKell365 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i disagree with having Gym Leader Pokemon not having four moves apiece. i think it's part of the challenge, since Gym Leaders are supposed to be experienced trainers, and their Pokemon should reflect that by having four moves

  • @LunchBox092
    @LunchBox092 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ngl, I've never really been a fan of starters being on gym leader teams. It just feels so weird to me. So I'd swap it with Flareon. But it's just a suggestion.

  • @mr_snrub
    @mr_snrub 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No sprinklers in brocks gym? 0/10

  • @patonosequecosa
    @patonosequecosa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never understood why Koga and Sabrina are so overleveled in yellow

  • @LadyRamkinFP
    @LadyRamkinFP 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Koga should have mr.mime.
    His Gym is full of invisible walls.

  • @TouchGrassAnyPercent
    @TouchGrassAnyPercent 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am so excited for gen 1 gymleaders to finally feel like intimidating matchups

  • @philkirshenbaum8867
    @philkirshenbaum8867 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Erika could totally rock a Butterfree. She wouldn’t be the first gym leader to have a Pokémon not match her type and Butterfree would be cool to see more of in the games period.

  • @atomicpunk2360
    @atomicpunk2360 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lol Onix’s yellow sprite is easily its worst one ever. Poor boulder snake can’t catch a break 😂

  • @groudonvert7286
    @groudonvert7286 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Koga and Sabrina always have the same level with their final Pokémon (Venomoth is lv 50 like Sabrina's Pokémon in Yellow).
    And it makes kinda sense, since they're at a point in the game where you can fight whoever you want first.

  • @pattersong6637
    @pattersong6637 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Re: Bruno, whom you teased when discussing Brock, I know this is blatantly obvious but getting rid of one of his two Onixes is a must...the question is just do you go with Primeape or Poliwrath? I kind of like the idea of a Poliwrath with Stab Surf as coverage given Bruno has basically no other access to special attacks other than his Hitmons with their absolutely dismal Special.

  • @sirwolfy9372
    @sirwolfy9372 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:42 Nuzlocke worst nightmare looooooooooooool

  • @Patrick-m4t
    @Patrick-m4t 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Johto is pretty abysmal, too. Except for Whitneys Miltank, Mortys Gengar and Clairs Kingdra there is not one Pokémon That comes even Close to cause an threat. I think gen 3 for the First time has some interessting gym leader battles

  • @Azuciea
    @Azuciea 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    who wrote this hello fresh ad script? Its the best one Ive heard.

  • @codyssmith73
    @codyssmith73 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah, Bug Type… did you know Gen 1’s strongest bug move is actually a glitch move? Existing in both R/B & Yellow is a glitch move known as TM 28 that’s glitch type in R/B but Bug Type in Yellow. It has 85 base power, 46% accuracy and a glitched amount of PP.

  • @brandonferris9956
    @brandonferris9956 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like how Brock can wreck a player with Bide and then gives the player the TM for Bide and as kids we all unknowingly taught it to a team member thinking we could destroy gym leaders when we actually got destroyed by waiting 2 turns to attack again lol

  • @wafflebroz
    @wafflebroz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So you kind of went my route with Onix, but it seems you increased his stats further than Steelix BST

    • @wafflebroz
      @wafflebroz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I posted this on one of your streams and in the Discord:
      I had considered giving Onix the Scyther treatment. Make it have the same base stats as Steelix, but differently distributed.
      Adjustments to Onix:
      +30 to HP, Attack, and Speed
      +15 to Special
      This gives you:
      HP: 65 (S is 75)
      Atk: 75 (S is 85)
      Def: 160 (S is 200)
      Spc: 45 (S is 55/65) (This is also Onix’s Sp Def stat in later gens)
      Speed: 100 (S is 30)

    • @smithplayspokemon
      @smithplayspokemon  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      we're definitely in the middle of hauling back onix's stats, its a constant evolution lol