Two Audi RS4's B9 , different mileage , same issues . What can happen if the rocker arm fails ?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- Welcome back to our channel.This time we have with us two RS4's B9's . White one with higher mileage , grey one did not do even 30K and the engine don't even want to start. So before we do anything we carry out a quick check but you know that at our workshop we always take the engine out at the end of the day. Once we opened them up we were a bit shocked ... What do you think ?
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Its a disgrace that Audi wont admit these rockers need a recall.
Welcome to 2024, Audi is a shit company. Most car companies are shit companies...bmw, audi, benz etc
Audi aftercare is the Worst in the market
VAG in general, sadly @@joelle8458
How do you think I feel, I’ve got a 10 year/100k warranty and I’ll never use it!
This isn’t new either. When the gen 3 VW engine came out in 2013.5 (Jetta GLI, Beetle CPPA), they used smaller arms like this. I had several I replaced chains on and the rocker arms were doing this. The 2014 CPRA, CPKA 1.8 had the same issue. By 2015 they all had the larger old design rockers.
It's definitely not boring. I love to see people with the knowledge and skill to do the jobs you do, great channel 👍
This - Never change the concept, it's awesome!
+1 but with an advice to cut word unfortunately 😂
I've owned a number of S and M cars over the years, but never dailys. I'm so glad ive avoided the bankruptcy editions 😅 you're channel has put me off buying another, but i enjoy the content.
Every brand an type of engine has his own problems these day's, quality is going down the past years. You would be lucky if its a known problem and easy to repair.
scare tactics thats why.
How could the car with 29k miles besides the lifter, valve, piston topic, have so much failures, holy crap, that blows my mind. Great Video.
because it is designed so
i think the owner,s used it without knowing something about engine. they only drive it like shit.
With those miles still, that is just a terrible engine and cooler design.
@@rekordiperhaps all of the above. It could have been tuned to the moon. It could have had longer service intervals. Poor break-in(all out racing). and of course the design weaknesses
Or the owner hear the noise and though F$ckit lets ride the shit out of it and Audi will replace it for free
The good old Gyor plant in Hungary are doing a great job of keeping you boys in work. How Audi can can wash their hands of this debacle tells us all we need to know about what a fantastic engineering and customer service company Audi is. No wonder Audi is at the bottom of the Which 2024 car brand reliability report. If I was unlucky enough to own one of these , it would be sent to you for immediate attention . Thanks gents.
You are a great advert for not buying one - although if broken you are the best place to take it
Those rocker arms look so flimsy and crudely made. 28K and total engine failure, what a joke and they probably started failing at 25K. I really feel for the owners, this is just not acceptable.
Shouldn't this be covered by AUDI under warranty?
@@robertslegers257the warranty is very short lad. 60k or 3 years, whichever comes first. You could have 3.5 year old car with 5k miles and still hear denial from Audi.
Compare them to the good old 2.7tt. And they call it "vorsprung durch technik". What a joke.
The knowledge and skill displayed by the two of you is so impressive. What is not so impressive is the serious engine problem on the grey car with less than 30k miles on the clock
Love your videos Thomas, please don’t think you’re boring 👍🏼
This channel is under appreciated. Just keep doing the videos, really good content. Cheers!
I really enjoy these videos. Great work guys. Love the oooh la la’s. Look forward to the next vid to see how the low mileage RS4 engine gets fixed.
Far from boring! Keep it up guys great content.
Tomas, Miroslav, I simply love your "boring" videos!!!!)))) Keep doing and going! Cheers from Sweden.
Love this channel, never boring
Great video lads, nice to see you working on my car (the cheap one!) Quality mechanicing 👌
You can hear from it cranking over it's a bit poorly, nice to have you back lads,always great content
Moral of the story. If coolent level is dropping or requires topup frequently. Park it up and get a fiat panda. While saving for the audi bill😂
Hi guys, love all your videos. They are not boring at all. The are very educational in preventing catastrophic failures in the cars me and my friend service. Just a quick question though, where did you guys get the big jack you use to drop the engine on?
Never boring literally having fun watching these videos of yours
Far from boring videos, these are proper eye openers. And owning an RS car myself it is sort of worrying what can happen.
Very helpful videos - thanks!! (I have 3 Audis with the 2.9/3.0lt engines so I watch and read all the forums)
i wish your shop was here in the states. I have a b9 s5 in my garage with glitter in the oil from failed original rocker arms. I would love to have you to fix it. You are all so knowledgeable
Thanks for the video’s definitely not boring, I’ve recently bought a s5 2021 hope it goes well for me 😥.
Nice work.... Im very interested in the sequel of this video
I take it both these vehicles are 2018 ? Keep up the good work with these videos.. watching your videos is the main reason why I only buy new RS models and change them every 2 years!!
I love ❤️ your channel and I'm amazed that Audi in RS lineup doesn't admit the fault.
I'm sure Audi will pay in long-term like was with dieselgate saga.
I’ve an Audi 2L Diesel 190 bhp touch wood all seems ok but love watching your videos and listening to your diagnostic thoughts but now always worrying will mine stay healthy 🥹
i like the intro where you hear the tapping sound
Guys your not boring. Its a good thing that the" little men" are keeping the big manufacturers on their toes and not taking their knowledge as gospel. Without people like you guys we would just have to accept what the manufacturers tell us regardless of whether they are right or wrong. Keep showing these engine failures. The message might slowly get through to make stuff better.
Great content as always VAG!
Great job boys 🙌🏼 You’ve got a follower 👋🏼
Pozdrav iz Beograda
I started watching your channel when i had a B8.5 Audi S5 a few years ago and found it to be helpful & informative. 👍
I now have a 2018 RS5 which is running really well at the moment.
The owner of the low mileage car was obviously aware of a tapping noise and chose to change the injector instead of sending it to yourselves. The engine would have given some signs before such a huge failure. 😢
For those questioning the low mileage , Audi std warranty is for 3 years or 60k depending on which 1 one comes 1st.
So unless the owner paid for an extended warranty , audi have no obligation to fix it as it is 6 years old.
If my engine starts making a ticking sound i will be straight on the phone to you guys for the next video.
Another excellent video, thank for doing these. What year(s) are these two? I didn't hear it in the video, but I assume 2018?
Great video, very educational! Thank you
Hey guys. Great video as always. What oil you recommended for these 2.9T?
Thanks
TPS number one customer : )
Can't wait for my engine to come out from discussion room 😅
Excellent video thanks. This is a clear design fault by Audi.
Ace content, don't sell yourselves short 👍🏼
Your videos have taught me there's no such thing as a cheap Audi 😂
20k mile RS4s are not cheap cars.
Awesome videos guys, I do really enjoy watching them!
P. S. Is the doggo on a full time employment?😁
Doggo is part time mechanic, part time ball collector and expert TPS parts specialist who knows all the Audi timing chain parts numbers by heart 😁
@@bat33.12 Lmao😂
If this is boring content, then colour me boring. Thoroughly interesting to see the diagnostic approach. Also, doggo is great!
With the current level of German automotive engineering proficiency you'll never be short of work! 😂 Really enjoy your fascinating and educational videos, particularly as I don't have the misfortune of owning one of these engines...
no better way to start my Friday then with broken Audi's. 😂
yes, same for me, it makes my day
@@makantahi3731 why...
@@Jake_Smith7472 i liked audi as good looking car, high tech, but when i saw how they designed it-no maintenance friendly, bad design of important parts inside engine, no aftermarket parts, engine out for anything, i should be stupid and retarded in same time to own audi(i do almos everything on my chrysler 300c, 5.7, awd, stone age tech but easy to maintain and repair , and almost cheap, only imperfection is fuel (lpg)consumptiom: from 0-200km/h is 20 litres /100km, over 200km/h rises linearly, that is why i drive it floored
rocker arms? seems to be a constant issue. i love watching your videos from here in the US.. the grey one should still under warranty.. no? 😂😂
VAG cars need more VAG Technic.
More great content Thomas.... good to see Miraslav doing his thing. So boring watching RS4 owners splashing out a £1M for engine repairs😂😂😂😂 they are a tikki takki time bomb😂😂😂. Can't wait for the very boring part2❤
Hi Guys, regarding the Q7 Tdi oil pressure issue. Would it be a good idea to step up the oil viscosity if living in a less harsh climate?
Great Chanel 👍
Great vid.
My B8.5 RS4 was the biggest POS I have ever owned. Never again.
Doggo, Miroslav and broken RS4 B9 engines, it must be a new exciting engineering video from VAG technic 😁
No doubt involving two million pounds of parts from TPS who must be getting very rich from all the money they take from VAG Technic
Also just to add Audi's ERWIN servicing and documentation portal specifies 0W30 oil. Could the 0W20 gnats piss be a contributing factor to the rocker arm failures? Could the intercooler leaks be thermal shock in cold weather when the charge coolant pump kicks in under full load/intake temp?
Top Job Best channel on u tube, well done lads 😁
How does an engine burning coolant cause the turbine to get eaten up? Erosion or?
Has anything been done about the intercooler? Are there any improvements on the 2024?
Yes!!! First!!! Drink (Coffee) in hand... Biscuit in the other... Let's GO!!!!!!
Very good videos keep it up 👌🏻
Never ceases to amaze me how people can continue to drive something that's making noises like that and drive it until it stops! - still his wallet will be making a fluttering noise now with all the notes disappearing out of it!.
Wonder why they used those roller bearings?, as they are not really suited to the kind of motion in a rocker - would have thought a bronze bush would have been better for service life, but probably down to friction reduction and cost of manufacture - not good to be failing at those kind of mileages though.
Great work by the way - very interesting and informative channel.
I've always wanted to work with engines in the same way you do.. Would you be able to give me an idea of where to start?
Possible to remove the Pass Side Exhaust Cam Adjuster without removing the engine on the EA839 in a cayenne?
I considered purchasing an RS5 until I found this channel. I really like the 911 Turbo I chose instead.
who crossshops for RS5 and 911 turbo lol
Nice video, thanks 😊👍👌🙌
Very interesting video, with very funny comments 😂
Was the one with no compression cylinder 6 tuned or stock?
Makes me feel better this not known issue only to the B9 S5 Engine (not a mechanic so I guess they might have similar components) I have had one of the Audi Techs come to my house and extract engine oil out of my car as it went in for an oil change and they some how managed to put in 1.5 litres of extra oil in the vehicle so on the drive back it flashed on the cockpit "Please Reduce Engine Oil" and tested with 2 small journeys locally and cut off car immediately as soon as I got the message again started of email chain and they wanted me to drive it back to the dealership I refused and asked for recovery that's why they sent the technician to my home. I asked him about the engine and rocker arm issue and he said he only knew one car that had the issue but stated something lol using different oil and being tuned where I stated this TH-cam channel where some vehicles are stock.
The new rocker arms from TPS have this flaw ironed out?
Video was excellent
The two 2017 s4 I was looking at and passed on (thanks to your videos) are now sold. I pray for those new owners….even a mechanical third party warranty has limits.
Best to use 5w40 in these?
This is true representation of your country btw. highly skilled people!
What build date did Audi start using the new rocker arms?
That grey one has got to have a mileage blocker on it or something, that much damage at sub 30k dose not add up
Yeah I was thinking this aswell. And the rocker covers look like they've been off before looking at the state of the sealant.
What year are each of the cars? Thanks
69k miles is nothing for modern cars, IF basic maintenance is followed.
People trying to pinch pennies by not having at least an annual service, end up paying big money in the long run.
Possibly not even the current owners fault, that would really piss me off! But saying that, the first thing I would have done is a full service, even if the seller said it's been done.
If they are on 0w20 oil I would expect they have been dealer maintained, I would be surprised the oil doesn't look bad
@@TheJbsportstech we can't always trust the dealerships though.
There's previous videos on this channel, where the service history is upto date, all dealership work, and the engine still has original oil filter fitted!
A4 B9 2.0 TDI 140kw/190hp/stronic 2016. i hear light ticking noise around 2700-3000 rpms in 3rd, 4th, 5th...gears do i need to worry?
How’s the 2024 tsi 2.0 in a GTI, reliable?
great channel.
Respect Respect VAG Technic
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давненько что то не было видосов , в нашем случаи стук поченили натянув плотней колпак на свечу 😂
I hear you guys mention 0-20 several times it seems like you think it's not good for these engines. I don't disagree, I have a 2023 S5, North American, what spec oil should I use instead?
I really hope this was resolved with new rocker arms on my 2021 RS4
Yes
What if VAG tried some quality control before production?
What was the reason given for denial of warranty
I’m wondering if these guys have seen any failures on cars with the new designed rocker arms? Great channel BTW.
No
Wondering if anyone might know and be kind enough to advise. I’ve got a low mileage 68 plate S5, registered Oct 18. Should I have the updated rockers then, as it’s post Aug 18? Or should I get checked. Cars now done 25k miles.
Yep Yep Yep!! Ohhhhh! YepYep!!! Bad day at black rock me thinks need to go to the consultation room and lots of thunking.
Audi engines, never boring.
How hard is it to do the rocker arms at home with out pulling the motor on b9 sq5 and what's tools needed to do the job like to lock the cams
Don’t even try….
Great content guys. My friend just bought one of these any tips on how to keep it alive? lmao
sell it as soon as possible
hahaha i knew this would be the answer. I will pray for him. @@makantahi3731
I love the dog bro.
What year build are these cars?
So how can we avoid it is the big question! A thicker oil, or what?! Would using 5w 40 make it easier for the rockers?
👍 good job
I run a 2018 B9 RS4 with 42k and these videos are a touch scary !! But like someone commented the Nardo Grey RS must have had a very hard life to fail so spectacularly at only 26K ?? And why was the warranty claim rejected ? I’m keen to know that because I have extended all component cover on mine ..
Also it’s worth remembering that this is a Porsche designed and developed engine that’s used in the Maccan, do Maccan owners suffer the same issues ??
So should owners take it upon themselves to fit the modified rocker arm bearings ?
Looking forward to seeing the next video covering these two RS4’s 👍
Same engine , don’t forget ( what I know ) extended warranty will only
Cover damaged part 😀 not the actual damage what’s left after … so if your rocker arm will fail , they only
Cover one rocker arm
What would you advise I do ? my car is running fine Ive had it from new and has had a very easy life, never been on track and only launched a handful of times but still its a worry that something will go wrong, of course assuming my build didn't have the modified Rocker bearings @@VAGTechnic
I m buying a new car in the summer, been looking at a BMW m340i but they are a little bit out of my price range so starting looking at a Audi b9 S4 but with the problems they are having probably better spending a bit more on the beemer!
Why the warranty was void on the low mileage one ?
Love you guys
When the mechanics see a trend in repairs, it isn’t a coincidence, there is a problem. 26k miles and not covered under warranty or did I miss something? Is this car flagged as a TD1? I just saw a new 4.0T that had a very similar issue. VAG is slipping these past few years. Think I’ll stick with my C7. Another great video and a teaching point: listen to your car, it’s talking to you all the time.
They are 2018 models so nearly 6 years old so out of warranty (original 3 year one)
@@elliottrossdavis1977 I haven’t bought new in a long time but I always thought they carried some kind power train warranty external to the bumper to bumper.
@@HookerJoeFirenot in the UK, unless you take out the extended warranty at about £1,000/ yr
@@therealsleepenvy mine is costing £460 a year on renewal.
@@elchetdifferent age, mileage and excess will give different premiums
This high mileage rocker arms looks like updated ones. And low mileage engine rocker arms looks like original, failing ones. Probably that coolant leakage was partly reason, why it went like domino, failing whole unit. Is there factory original oil in engine also?
But do not look very promising for B9 2.9 engine in long run, if they fail without tuning already.
Is it just v6 and v8 you see these major problems with? I never see I5 and I4 on this channel
My '18 A7 with 3.0 EA839 130k still holding :)) hopefully till I trade it for an CLA 45 AMG