The oils that are locked in for test 2 are: Balistol, Super QCG, and the winners from this test, Slip 2000 and Break Free CLP. Sound off to what else you want in. we have 5 more spots!
Some oldies, but goodies... Militec 1, and EEZOX. And, there's a mix of 25% Mobil 1 synthetic ATF to 75% Mobil 1 10w30 oil that seemed to be a go-to product for some AR15 users a few years back. The ATF was added to the oil due to it's cleaning properties. Users swore by it saying it was all they were using for many years.
Especially now that they make Froglube Extreme CLP in spray instead of just the paste that was sold at the time. It wasn't included because it was a paste that wouldn't perform well in the freeze test, but thats no longer the case. New video!
I use it on door hinges and shit. I rarely use it on a gun unless I'm lazy and don't feel like doing anything other than misting the inside of a rusty barrel.
For some reason the Rem Oil bit seems easy to believe. I bought a NIB 870 Express left hand, 2015. The 28" barrel 12ga was sub par ⬇️. I was not impressed with Big Green's pump 870.
I've used BreakFree for decades, but recently switched to Clenzoil after watching Project Farm's test. The Clenzoil turned out to be - as you said - equal to BF for rust but it blew it away for friction and wear. Ballistol, I was shocked to find out is basically garbage as is all the other stuff you, I and most people have used and tested for decades.
I used Hoppes for years out of habit, but after watching the Project Farms test, I switched to Clenzoil. Clenzoil didn't do well in the cold test, but I won't be using my pistol in -40° weather. Contrary to the Project Farms tests, this guy's results aren't very scientific. I might have more confidence in his work if he could even spell Clenzoil.
For future- don't rub the CLP in with your finger, that adds it's own oils from your skin. Apply w/ a micro fiber cloth like you would clean a firearm with for the most accurate results.
I just grease down the inside of the slide, the rails, and the mechanisms in the frame, then put it together and just rack the slide a whole bunch. Works for me.
Some suggestions for future testing. Have your sample plates standing up. With them flat, and next to each other, the wind, and rain will cause the lubes to migrate from plate to plate. Also, when you were scratching each lube, if the torch did not totally burn the lube off your scratching tool, then you were mixing lubes between plates. Edit.... Forgot to add... Hornady One Shot cleaner and lube (not the case lube) is definitely worth trying. It won a 46-way test on another review of gun lubes. That and Frog Lube are my two favorites out of about 20 or so I currently have. The Hornady One Shot makes my auto knives fire harder than anything I've tried, and penetrates deep into recesses. It's also made my bullpup triggers so much smoother than anything else I've tried.
I’ve used FrogLube paste for years now and it’s been great. Stays put and makes my guns feel real slick. No issues whatsoever here in CO were it’s seen sub sub zero temps and up to 100. I’ve made the switch to Slip2000 EWG though. The mint smell was nice but it doesn’t stay and it seems to breakdown after long periods of time. Doesn’t effect its operation in my experience though once heated up from firing. Slip just seems to not breakdown and has no odor ever. It got a little weird having a mint flavored gun lol. Still was way better than old school nasty smelling irritant oils. I also stopped using regular oil in general. Grease and thicker oils work much better imo and don’t leave a mess after sitting a while. They don’t get pushed off as easy either when shooting. I’ve also found no excess carbon or dirt using them over very light amounts of oil like people say. Also makes it much easier to clean in my experience. Just keep external areas free of excess oil/grease and it’s fine.
I used Breakfree CLP in the US Army, 1990s. I was never very impressed with it 🧐. I use either Clenzoil CLP, Slip 2000 EWL or Ballistol on my weapons. All are non toxic, no harsh fumes. Safe on rubber, metal, polymer.
Worked on cars and heavy equipment for years. My go to for Oils, grease, Solvents, and even Hydraulic fluid on some occasions was Lucas. So when I got into buying firearms and found Lucas Gun Oil. I naturally gravitated to it, because it was a brand I was quite familiar, so it hurt my feelings to see it cut.
I was surprised. But also not. It's basically their automotive products, all of which are made for closed, controlled environments. The problem comes with environmental factors come in. If you take that out of the equation, they're probably fine.
Mav Div Lucas makes an Extreme duty gun oil as well as Extreme duty CLP. The extreme duty CLP would be the correct comparison to compare against Breakfree CLP. With that said he or no one can compare them all. Their are hundreds of oils, greases, CLP, Lubricants, etc etc that are branded for guns. Then their thousands of other products that work great as well. It all just depends on what you are looking for.
@@halfdollar86 true. Every 15min ⌚ a new CLP or gun oil rolls along claiming to be the 🐈 a**. Rand CLP, Gunzilla, Weaponshield, Breakfree, LPX, Ballistol, Hoppe Gun Medic, Froglube 🐸, Miltech, Slip 2000 EWL, Rem Oil, Ed's Red. The main point is to find a quality CLP with no toxic fumes, oils well, prevents rust.
As you stated, these test are very subject. Especially when considering the fact that there was cross contamination and inconsistent pressure when friction testing. ProjectFarm showed that Break Free and Clenzoil came out on top through a number of test. Prior to watching his video, I did a quick Google search and was going to buy Break Free, but after watching his video, I decided to buy Clenzoil. Although the Clenzoil didn't do as well as others with the rust test, it still did well. I find that with normal maintenance and cleaning, then rust should never be an issue. But on the other hand, the Clenzoil did extremely well when it came to the friction test, which was the main determining factor for me. Similarly to how heat will always be the destructive factor for electronics, friction will always be the destructive factor for moving parts. In addition to that, I also like the fact that the Clenzoil comes in kits, with different accessories & applicators to clean your firearm.
This made me so happy :). So I'm really indecisive and take forever to decide on a brand to buy, when it comes to just about anything. It's a really annoying problem. With that said, I was leaning towards buying Slip 2000 but wanted to go onto TH-cam to see if there was any gun cleaner/oiler comparisons out there. This is the first video I clicked on, and what do you know... You came in super clutch confirming something I was hoping would happen and I can finally move on!!! Thank you for your time and effort, great video! Thumbs up
To the Unicorn blood, I would add Marvel Mystery oil. Its very good against rust. My ingredients is 2 quarts of 5w 30 mobil 1 full synthetic, 1 quart Mobil 1 ATF full synthetic, 1quart Marvel Mystery oil (instead of stp oil treatment), and 5oz hoppes 9 bore cleaner.
awesome info, although it appears you had water puddling in the upper left side of the sheet that could have given an misleading result. I would recommend doing a test with the sheet angled so that the water cant stand on the sheet after the rain. that way all the test areas will be wet and dry the same amount of time! keep up the good work!
Even rem oil in my opinion if you keep up with it at the very least, will maintain your firearm I use hoppes and rem oil for its affordability and my guns are in great condition. But I also clean them monthly out of habit. Not sure what other people do
Odd, I have been using CLP and Slip 2000 as my main go to before I watched this. I mainly used CLP for protection and pre-cleaning when I got into firearms. The Slip 2000 I liked just by the feel on handgun slides and AR bolt.
All of the rust prevention test i see use the old rem oil rather than the new and improved Rem oil without the teflon and the new Rem oil is thicker and does not fade away or evaporate on the firearm or knife.
Probably have some cross contamination during the friction test. Looks like you didn’t clean the scraper between cells. Nice vid though. Thank you! Personally curious about G96.
Remember everybody . . .*motor oil has no anti-oxidants.* ATF is full of antioxidants: when you see reddish gun oils/cleaners like kroil, his 'unicorn' or "Ed's Red" it's the ATF component. Using straight highest-grade ATF is on par with the best and *Vastly More Economical.*
Hi, I greatly appreciate the no nonsense science of your review. I am new to CCW. I've started going to the range often, but now understand the serious issue of lead contamination danger to me and my family. Please review the few lead removal products from skin and clothing. Thank you.
Gun cleaners/ oils bring out so many opinions. Guess not much different than sat automotive lubricant discussions. Facts are they all work to certain extents, some like clp's are never going to protect as well as just an oil etc, but the environment you leave your firearms, and how much you neglect them or expose them to the elements dictates corrosion. A very fine coating of any gun lubricant is all they require, then clean and re-oil frequently and you will never worry
I like Ballistol 🇩🇪. I've used it often on parts, firearms, locks, knives 🔪 since 1997. Its non toxic non odors, fumes. 🌲. The big -s include the spray cans are fairly small. It can be hard to locate-buy Ballistol too. Only 1 or 2 people out of 20 may know what it is. 😏
I witnessed waayyy too many discrepancies with your tests for them to be considered "accurate" unfortunately. Bc it does seem like you put a lot of honest work into this
By using the same piece to scratch them up you mix a bit of all th oils into each other. A good test that is far worse to do is spraying them with saline solutions of differing degrees. You can simulate sweat or living near th ocean up to constant beach landing operations.
If seen a few of these oil/CLP tests and it seems like Hoppes is one of the worst performers overall. That sort of shocked me given its popularity. I used to use Hoppes for many years when I first started purchasing firearms as it was simply a name I recognized. Never had a rust issue but that might be because I fired and then cleaned my firearms on a fairly regular basis so rust never had a chance to form regardless. A few years ago, I switched over to Shooter Lube which also works fine though I'd really like to see a series of tests like this (or from Project Farm) on how it compares. This test and the test from Project Farm showed that Clenzoil has really good lubrication qualities so I switched to that recently. My first one step gun cleaning product as I've always used two step prior. Clenzoil works great and being a one step product does save a little time but I never really found cleaning my firearms to be that much of a chore. I've long felt that taking apart and cleaning your firearm is actually relaxing in a way. I think all these products offer protection and cleaning qualities but clearly some are much better engineered and are superior to others. Overall, just don't neglect your firearms and clean them every so often even if you're not shooting them regularly.
Pops used #9 on all of his firearms, smart man. Now his firearms are in mint condition 40yr later to pass down to me when he goes. And my boy will receive them just the same, and the #9 cycle continues .
You have to test Mil-Comm MC2500 oil (NOT Militec different company). I tested some oils a few years ago (not as well orchestrated as your test) and the MC 2500 was the best. I also couldn’t get it to freeze or burn off, or even change consistency even baking it and sticking it in a deep freezer for a week. Good stuff. Some of the ones I compared it to were Ballistol, CLP, Lucas, Gunslick and Frog lube. I’ve also heard good things about Rand CLP, but I think their website touting the oil as containing “newly discovered molecular particles” - is just way cheesy and an obvious lie lol.
lol, "newly discovered" is a great term, but i agree, total BS. i can run Rand next time. i'll also be putting in Balistol and a couple others i have marked as a go, along with Break Free CLP and Slip 2000, just to maintain continuity of the comparisons. thanks for the comment!
That sounds like Fire Clean 🔥, Cooling oil 🍳 scandal from the late 2000s. 😁... many gunners & SOF guys got "burned" by the claims. Some hunters & gunsmiths like Ed's Red too. 😉.
Didn't figure you'd get a whole blast out of me scrubbing my finger after each patch. Guess I should have figured somebody would take that as I didn't do due diligence to keep cross-contamination down.
I use rem oil on the outside of my air guns it does a decent job their. Maybe test the oils function at cleaning for the next tests. Rem oil will fade over time but seems to prevent corrosion damage and what rust is their is just on the surface haven’t encountered any pitting. A viscosity test would also be cool.
Minimum you should be wiping the oil off after every test. To be really precise, you should be using a different scraper for every test. Basically, after scraping the first one, you contaminated everything voiding all of your results.
No Ballistol??? Pfft! Test isn't valid without Ballistol in the mix! I've used it for YEARS AND YEARS without so much as a spot of rust on ANY gun I own.
Lol, itll be in the next one. I just didnt get around to buying any before the test and needed to honor the companies that gave me oil to test before bumping them and going to buy another.
It’s interesting to me how well BF CLP did. I have ALWAYS said CLPs are compromise products and for that reason they must barely hit par but underperform compared to products like Lucas. Hate to admit it but CLP is good.
I had the same realization. It was also hard to admit that those motor oils that everybody suggests in place of gun oils maybe aren't the best thing, and are specially formulated for enclosed environments and cant deal with the environmental differentials that guns may.
the firearm community in general is pretty crazy when it comes to cleaners/lubricants etc. But these tests aren't really worth much, for starters if your weapon is bare steel you have bigger issues at hand. Then the extremes to which people are testing makes little sense, facts are chemically these products are all very similar, most are cashing in on a niche market saying they can do this or that when in fact they are not far different from standard cleaning solvents and synthetic oils- we are cleaning/ protecting coated steel and alloys that you only need to apply light coatings of oil to protect, heavy coats is bad, it has more to do with the environment in which you store it. If its a mositure laden area for long periods you will get corrosion. Clean them properly, apply a lubricant and store in a smart place and you will have a lasting finish, they all work people generally stay with what they know.
I agree to a point. In 2022, I've seen many CLPs, oils come & go. Since the 1980s. I currently buy, use Clenzoil, Slip 2000 EWL, Ballistol. Clenzoil is a petroleum based. It may burn 🔥 at higher temps but it has no fumes, odors 👃. It's done very well in other online T&Es. Slip 2000 EWL is decent but can be hard to find locally. I've used it on my firearms with 0 problems. 6-8mo.
LSA is the best lubricant for guns. Not a great cleaner but it is slick, cheap, and decent at rust prevention. I use CLP with LSA as a lube top off. Works enough.
I see a big sloppy mess at around 13:40 I can't tell where one fluid starts and another one ends. Sorry, nice effort but what appears to be cross contamination brings doubt about the results. I don't see any reason to watch till the end
This test is 💩 What your calling a friction test all you’re doing is mixing all oils together wwith scraper you’re not even wiping off the scraper before you do different oils
He literally spread them with the same finger and kept touching them one after the other. Like okay now they are all mixed.. I bet I’d get decent results if I bought them all and mixed them 🤦🏻♂️
Man, it's like none of you guys understand how editing works 🤦🏻♂️ Did you want to watch me wipe my hand off with alcohol, or clean the oil off of the rod and burn off any residual cleaner after each one? I figured cutting that out and getting to results would be a better use of time, but hey, I can leave all that crap in if you're that bored 😉
Froglube actually makes a version for below freezing conditions called froglube extreme. Stuff is amazing but like all froglube products, you can’t mix even a little with traditional lubes or it gums up.
Should have wiped them off because I don't know about the others but I know Rem Oil is designed and made to be an apply and wipe oil because it penetrates the pores of the metal and give the Teflon coating that it's mixed with.
seems like nobody uses triflow...I've had great luck with that, its thin and dries off if nto used for a while but it has teflon in it and even when it looks dry its slick as shit
Should of used the Lucas extreme duty and if you run this test again I guarantee weapon shield would be the winner. I've been using it for the last 4 months and on 2 brand new pistols and there is no usual wear pattern on both.
I been using breakfree clp on my glock43x for a good minute it seems to work great I also have a bottle of pro shot clp with the needle applicator I haven't used it yet but I hear it is really good tho
Thank you for the dedication it must take to run a test like this in the first place. Your results have kind of backed up what I've found over the years. I use CLP almost without exception . In warmer weather I'll use Lucas on trigger and action parts. But through personal experience I'll say Red Lucas will thicken in cold weather to the point of making semi auto 22lr actions gum up and malfunction. I'm ready for round 2 .
Absolutely. It was fun to see what they started doing when things started happening. The lucas did get slightly thick when frozen. add some water and I could see it getting gummy
Clp will burn off in less than 50 shots it’s good for cleaning though. If you lube with slip 2000 you’ll be ok. I’m currently using battleborn hp pro which is a thicker version of the battleborn used in this vid. From my experience I have found 4 lubricants that don’t burn off. The first is Fireclean I know it gums up in storage but it’ll stay wet for a few months and hundreds of rounds through several range sessions. The second I found is slip2000 EWL which is tested here this stuff kinda soaks into the metal to where it almost feels dry but you can see a sheen. To me Slip2000 doesn’t make my guns feel as slick as the other three but it’s also the thinnest of the four. The third is Lucas Oil Extreme duty. The only thing I don’t like about Lucas Oil Extreme duty is the smell. It does make the gun feel super smooth though and it does hold up to multiple range sessions. The fourth Lubricant I’ve discovered that doesn’t burn off is What I currently useBattleborn HP pro. It’s slick like Lucas but without odor. It also conditions like Fireclean.
I've not seen any indication of CLP burning off any more than others, or to the point of failure. I got that friction bar significantly hotter than any gun should be getting, and it didn't cause enough burn off to increase corrosion or friction at all. If you are worried about burn off, check out Molecular Advantage (shown in the test). it contains no oil products and has no flash point. it literally cant burn off. the only issue i found is that it gets slightly thicker in extreme low temperatures. but it'd be worth a shot.
WorkTheTrigger maybe I got a bad batch, when I first got into shooting I used clp. I used the break free in the aerosol can with Teflon if that matters I loved how it made my pistol feel before shooting but after about 35-40 shots the pistol would be dry and I would need to add more. At the time I was breaking in a SP2022 at the time btw those require a lot of lube the first couple hundred rounds.I still use it on my bicycle drivetrain though on all the friction points and I clean my pistols with it occasionally for the protection it offers. For me this test validated my use of clp as a preservative. If money were no object I would say buy 10 pistols all the same model then lube each one with a different product and shoot em and then see what happens maybe we should start a go fund me?
I have a pareon 😉🤣 I typically stay away from the aerosol versions, I feel they're more for general use and storage, not neccessarily high use applications
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The oils that are locked in for test 2 are: Balistol, Super QCG, and the winners from this test, Slip 2000 and Break Free CLP. Sound off to what else you want in. we have 5 more spots!
Hopes M Pro 7 and Frog Lube
Weapon shield oil would awesome! Hopefully I’m not too late.
Nope, not too late. Haven't even started the prep for Round 2, too many other projects in the works right now
Some oldies, but goodies... Militec 1, and EEZOX. And, there's a mix of 25% Mobil 1 synthetic ATF to 75% Mobil 1 10w30 oil that seemed to be a go-to product for some AR15 users a few years back. The ATF was added to the oil due to it's cleaning properties. Users swore by it saying it was all they were using for many years.
Frog lube. Viking Tactics Rand clp.
Wouldn't mind watching an updated version of the new oils out.
I agree
What part of Colorado is everyone at? I am right in Englewood
I'm curious about Geissele's Go Juice.
Especially now that they make Froglube Extreme CLP in spray instead of just the paste that was sold at the time. It wasn't included because it was a paste that wouldn't perform well in the freeze test, but thats no longer the case. New video!
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You know rem oil is bad when they spray that shit on their 870s and they still come rusted out the box
I use it on door hinges and shit. I rarely use it on a gun unless I'm lazy and don't feel like doing anything other than misting the inside of a rusty barrel.
For some reason the Rem Oil bit seems easy to believe. I bought a NIB 870 Express left hand, 2015. The 28" barrel 12ga was sub par ⬇️. I was not impressed with Big Green's pump 870.
I've used BreakFree for decades, but recently switched to Clenzoil after watching Project Farm's test. The Clenzoil turned out to be - as you said - equal to BF for rust but it blew it away for friction and wear. Ballistol, I was shocked to find out is basically garbage as is all the other stuff you, I and most people have used and tested for decades.
I've used clenzoil but after that video I got a big bottle and use it on everything.
I used Hoppes for years out of habit, but after watching the Project Farms test, I switched to Clenzoil. Clenzoil didn't do well in the cold test, but I won't be using my pistol in -40° weather. Contrary to the Project Farms tests, this guy's results aren't very scientific. I might have more confidence in his work if he could even spell Clenzoil.
I’ve heard that cleanzoil is just crisco spray oil repackaged, but idk. I use quicksilver 2 stroke oil and lubriplate on my slides.
@@galenmarek8287you heard wrong
For future- don't rub the CLP in with your finger, that adds it's own oils from your skin. Apply w/ a micro fiber cloth like you would clean a firearm with for the most accurate results.
I just grease down the inside of the slide, the rails, and the mechanisms in the frame, then put it together and just rack the slide a whole bunch. Works for me.
Some suggestions for future testing. Have your sample plates standing up. With them flat, and next to each other, the wind, and rain will cause the lubes to migrate from plate to plate. Also, when you were scratching each lube, if the torch did not totally burn the lube off your scratching tool, then you were mixing lubes between plates.
Edit.... Forgot to add... Hornady One Shot cleaner and lube (not the case lube) is definitely worth trying. It won a 46-way test on another review of gun lubes. That and Frog Lube are my two favorites out of about 20 or so I currently have. The Hornady One Shot makes my auto knives fire harder than anything I've tried, and penetrates deep into recesses. It's also made my bullpup triggers so much smoother than anything else I've tried.
Mobil One full synthetic 5w 30w is my fave, and a quart will last you a lifetime.
Don't be telling everyone that. These companies that make these gimmicky cleaning oils dont like that 🤣
I did a real simple test. Cleaned nails with alcohol, coated them with different oils, put them outside. 1 week in and CLP is the first to rust.
Slip 2000 is my absolute favorite
I’ve used FrogLube paste for years now and it’s been great. Stays put and makes my guns feel real slick. No issues whatsoever here in CO were it’s seen sub sub zero temps and up to 100. I’ve made the switch to Slip2000 EWG though. The mint smell was nice but it doesn’t stay and it seems to breakdown after long periods of time. Doesn’t effect its operation in my experience though once heated up from firing. Slip just seems to not breakdown and has no odor ever. It got a little weird having a mint flavored gun lol. Still was way better than old school nasty smelling irritant oils. I also stopped using regular oil in general. Grease and thicker oils work much better imo and don’t leave a mess after sitting a while. They don’t get pushed off as easy either when shooting. I’ve also found no excess carbon or dirt using them over very light amounts of oil like people say. Also makes it much easier to clean in my experience. Just keep external areas free of excess oil/grease and it’s fine.
garbage
We ran CLP in M4s at Glynco. If it's good enough where lives are on the line, it's good enough for my .22 target pistol.
Is that Breakfree CLP ?
When i was at glynco they used G96 bio clp
BF clp is my go to. It works well and you can even find it a walmart!
I used Breakfree CLP in the US Army, 1990s. I was never very impressed with it 🧐. I use either Clenzoil CLP, Slip 2000 EWL or Ballistol on my weapons. All are non toxic, no harsh fumes. Safe on rubber, metal, polymer.
Worked on cars and heavy equipment for years. My go to for Oils, grease, Solvents, and even Hydraulic fluid on some occasions was Lucas. So when I got into buying firearms and found Lucas Gun Oil. I naturally gravitated to it, because it was a brand I was quite familiar, so it hurt my feelings to see it cut.
I was surprised. But also not. It's basically their automotive products, all of which are made for closed, controlled environments. The problem comes with environmental factors come in. If you take that out of the equation, they're probably fine.
@@jacobdukes4741 Not yet. Been busy with a lot of other projects, so the gun oil follow ups have set on the side burner.
Mav Div Lucas makes an Extreme duty gun oil as well as Extreme duty CLP. The extreme duty CLP would be the correct comparison to compare against Breakfree CLP. With that said he or no one can compare them all. Their are hundreds of oils, greases, CLP, Lubricants, etc etc that are branded for guns. Then their thousands of other products that work great as well. It all just depends on what you are looking for.
@@halfdollar86 true. Every 15min ⌚ a new CLP or gun oil rolls along claiming to be the 🐈 a**. Rand CLP, Gunzilla, Weaponshield, Breakfree, LPX, Ballistol, Hoppe Gun Medic, Froglube 🐸, Miltech, Slip 2000 EWL, Rem Oil, Ed's Red. The main point is to find a quality CLP with no toxic fumes, oils well, prevents rust.
As you stated, these test are very subject. Especially when considering the fact that there was cross contamination and inconsistent pressure when friction testing. ProjectFarm showed that Break Free and Clenzoil came out on top through a number of test. Prior to watching his video, I did a quick Google search and was going to buy Break Free, but after watching his video, I decided to buy Clenzoil.
Although the Clenzoil didn't do as well as others with the rust test, it still did well. I find that with normal maintenance and cleaning, then rust should never be an issue. But on the other hand, the Clenzoil did extremely well when it came to the friction test, which was the main determining factor for me.
Similarly to how heat will always be the destructive factor for electronics, friction will always be the destructive factor for moving parts.
In addition to that, I also like the fact that the Clenzoil comes in kits, with different accessories & applicators to clean your firearm.
Why not use engine oil is lubrication is your top priority, and just use a separate cleaner?
@@5jjt huh?
This made me so happy :). So I'm really indecisive and take forever to decide on a brand to buy, when it comes to just about anything. It's a really annoying problem. With that said, I was leaning towards buying Slip 2000 but wanted to go onto TH-cam to see if there was any gun cleaner/oiler comparisons out there. This is the first video I clicked on, and what do you know... You came in super clutch confirming something I was hoping would happen and I can finally move on!!! Thank you for your time and effort, great video! Thumbs up
I gochu 👊😎
I've used my local garage used oil for centuries, and it works great.
Yep. I hast trusted the fellows at Quaker State with mine horse and buggy since 1669. Ne'r hath been a disappointment.
To the Unicorn blood, I would add Marvel Mystery oil. Its very good against rust. My ingredients is 2 quarts of 5w 30 mobil 1 full synthetic, 1 quart Mobil 1 ATF full synthetic, 1quart Marvel Mystery oil (instead of stp oil treatment), and 5oz hoppes 9 bore cleaner.
awesome info, although it appears you had water puddling in the upper left side of the sheet that could have given an misleading result. I would recommend doing a test with the sheet angled so that the water cant stand on the sheet after the rain. that way all the test areas will be wet and dry the same amount of time! keep up the good work!
Even rem oil in my opinion if you keep up with it at the very least, will maintain your firearm
I use hoppes and rem oil for its affordability and my guns are in great condition.
But I also clean them monthly out of habit.
Not sure what other people do
I have been using CPL since I bought my first and it has never let me down .
Very Cool test and thanks for the knowledge Work.
Odd, I have been using CLP and Slip 2000 as my main go to before I watched this. I mainly used CLP for protection and pre-cleaning when I got into firearms. The Slip 2000 I liked just by the feel on handgun slides and AR bolt.
I’d like to see corrosion X tested. Both the regular red aerosol can and their actual gun oil
I’ve been using Ballistol for years with good results
Oh yeah another rust element test!!! I'd like for once to see someone test all the top oils in a actual performance test!!
Give it a go and let us know how it goes
Wow. I always used rem oil on our guns, and the same with hoppes. Good thing I have alot of Slip 2000 on hand.
I saw the test on a lot of these oils and clp’s years ago and they came to the same conclusion - Break Free is BEST
I appreciate this video tremendously, and I find it very thorough! Thank you for this video!
I Loved the video so much I subscribed. Thanks for making it brother!
Thanks! I'll make another in the next few months, more than likely. including additional oils. now that it's warm out i can reproduce the conditions.
That was some crazy hand acting you did there
Did you ever do the part 2? I can’t find it.
Supposedly, Eezox is one of the best corrosion inhibiters. It also is fantastic at leaving a high quality finish look on my Glock's slides.
All of the rust prevention test i see use the old rem oil rather than the new and improved Rem oil without the teflon and the new Rem oil is thicker and does not fade away or evaporate on the firearm or knife.
Really late on this, but how well did you wash your hands and why didn't you wear gloves?
Probably have some cross contamination during the friction test. Looks like you didn’t clean the scraper between cells. Nice vid though. Thank you! Personally curious about G96.
probably during the application process also...
Edited out cleaning of my hand and the rod. Didn't figure the video needed to be any longer than it wasn. I'm not nuttinfancy
Perhaps wear rubber gloves. Also your missing Mil-con. Love to see that one.
Remember everybody . . .*motor oil has no anti-oxidants.* ATF is full of antioxidants: when you see reddish gun oils/cleaners like kroil, his 'unicorn' or "Ed's Red" it's the ATF component. Using straight highest-grade ATF is on par with the best and *Vastly More Economical.*
Ive been using Clenzoil and been happy with it. Main thing is find a good one and stick with it..
Hi, I greatly appreciate the no nonsense science of your review. I am new to CCW. I've started going to the range often, but now understand the serious issue of lead contamination danger to me and my family. Please review the few lead removal products from skin and clothing. Thank you.
Can you test weapon shield please...
But I'd love to see his project farms test on gun oils
How about ALG Go Juice or Shooter Lube ?
Would love to see a test on them, Thanks!!
Frog Lube (heated before application) or Milcomm TW-25B
Used both boys. Mobile 1 synthetic 5w30 can’t be beat. And have used both. Preferably ALG over SL.
Gun cleaners/ oils bring out so many opinions. Guess not much different than sat automotive lubricant discussions. Facts are they all work to certain extents, some like clp's are never going to protect as well as just an oil etc, but the environment you leave your firearms, and how much you neglect them or expose them to the elements dictates corrosion. A very fine coating of any gun lubricant is all they require, then clean and re-oil frequently and you will never worry
How about amsoil
Would like to have seen ballistol as well. Nice test just recently found your channel.
Thanks! Ballistol is in the next test. getting ready to pin a comment with the oils that are locked in next time around.
I like Ballistol 🇩🇪. I've used it often on parts, firearms, locks, knives 🔪 since 1997. Its non toxic non odors, fumes. 🌲. The big -s include the spray cans are fairly small. It can be hard to locate-buy Ballistol too. Only 1 or 2 people out of 20 may know what it is. 😏
I witnessed waayyy too many discrepancies with your tests for them to be considered "accurate" unfortunately. Bc it does seem like you put a lot of honest work into this
By using the same piece to scratch them up you mix a bit of all th oils into each other.
A good test that is far worse to do is spraying them with saline solutions of differing degrees. You can simulate sweat or living near th ocean up to constant beach landing operations.
There's so many processes wrong with this test, it is almost astonishing how they where not only missed but not even thought of😮😅.
5 year old video and Im still using Lucas over all the other crap. Lucas CLP with the lucas oil is awesome. Otis is real good to.
If seen a few of these oil/CLP tests and it seems like Hoppes is one of the worst performers overall. That sort of shocked me given its popularity. I used to use Hoppes for many years when I first started purchasing firearms as it was simply a name I recognized. Never had a rust issue but that might be because I fired and then cleaned my firearms on a fairly regular basis so rust never had a chance to form regardless. A few years ago, I switched over to Shooter Lube which also works fine though I'd really like to see a series of tests like this (or from Project Farm) on how it compares. This test and the test from Project Farm showed that Clenzoil has really good lubrication qualities so I switched to that recently. My first one step gun cleaning product as I've always used two step prior. Clenzoil works great and being a one step product does save a little time but I never really found cleaning my firearms to be that much of a chore. I've long felt that taking apart and cleaning your firearm is actually relaxing in a way. I think all these products offer protection and cleaning qualities but clearly some are much better engineered and are superior to others. Overall, just don't neglect your firearms and clean them every so often even if you're not shooting them regularly.
Used hoppes for 30 years with great results on all guns. No reason to change.
Same here! I have wanted to, and have tried all the new oils including hoppes synthetic, but I always come back to #9
You’re supposed to end your comment with: “get off my lawn, you whippersnappers!”
@@MrTangent 😆
Pops used #9 on all of his firearms, smart man. Now his firearms are in mint condition 40yr later to pass down to me when he goes. And my boy will receive them just the same, and the #9 cycle continues .
@@Daddylanche Your boy told me right before you die he’s gonna quickly strip it all off and switch to 3-In-1 Oil.
Jazz hands! Seriously, Mobil 1. Hoppes is good too.
Interesting and cool, my brother was right clp to store lucas if it just needs a little lube.
Could we see Weapon shield on the future test?
He could try the Froglube Extreme, LPX, Gunzilla, Black Diamond, Rand CLP, SIG's brand. 🔍
Mobil 1 fully synthetic 5w-30 longer mileage formula. One qt $11 will last your whole life. Bonds to the metal, you use even less.
Yes that's exactly what I use on my guns bro if it can protect the car engine with moving parts and hyhy it can definitely protect a gun
You have to test Mil-Comm MC2500 oil (NOT Militec different company). I tested some oils a few years ago (not as well orchestrated as your test) and the MC 2500 was the best. I also couldn’t get it to freeze or burn off, or even change consistency even baking it and sticking it in a deep freezer for a week. Good stuff.
Some of the ones I compared it to were Ballistol, CLP, Lucas, Gunslick and Frog lube.
I’ve also heard good things about Rand CLP, but I think their website touting the oil as containing “newly discovered molecular particles” - is just way cheesy and an obvious lie lol.
lol, "newly discovered" is a great term, but i agree, total BS. i can run Rand next time. i'll also be putting in Balistol and a couple others i have marked as a go, along with Break Free CLP and Slip 2000, just to maintain continuity of the comparisons. thanks for the comment!
Add the mil-comm next time
That sounds like Fire Clean 🔥, Cooling oil 🍳 scandal from the late 2000s. 😁... many gunners & SOF guys got "burned" by the claims. Some hunters & gunsmiths like Ed's Red too. 😉.
BF CLP!!!!!!!!!!! Great video loved this super awesome video
Wow. So you rub them in with your finger, risking cross contamination. Genius move.
Didn't figure you'd get a whole blast out of me scrubbing my finger after each patch. Guess I should have figured somebody would take that as I didn't do due diligence to keep cross-contamination down.
I use rem oil on the outside of my air guns it does a decent job their. Maybe test the oils function at cleaning for the next tests. Rem oil will fade over time but seems to prevent corrosion damage and what rust is their is just on the surface haven’t encountered any pitting. A viscosity test would also be cool.
Really needed to see this.. thank you!
Very interesting test, it would be also interesting to how mobile o-w4 compares to the gun oils. Because a lot of guy are using this now
Sanded test plates would expose *Several Times* the surface area, hold and spread the oils more evenly and induce quicker corrosion results.
I just use Marvel Mystery Oil and it works real good.
Minimum you should be wiping the oil off after every test. To be really precise, you should be using a different scraper for every test. Basically, after scraping the first one, you contaminated everything voiding all of your results.
No Ballistol??? Pfft! Test isn't valid without Ballistol in the mix! I've used it for YEARS AND YEARS without so much as a spot of rust on ANY gun I own.
Lol, itll be in the next one. I just didnt get around to buying any before the test and needed to honor the companies that gave me oil to test before bumping them and going to buy another.
Nice
Re reds sax
Ballistol is decent. I use that & regular Froglube. There are other well engineered CLPs, oils out there.
I would have done like a 1% salinity water spritz. Mayble like 1 tsp of salt and a gallon of water or something like that.
Go to project farm. He does some oil testing. Motor oil but you can learn about reliability testing on oils. And make simple testing rigs.
It’s interesting to me how well BF CLP did. I have ALWAYS said CLPs are compromise products and for that reason they must barely hit par but underperform compared to products like Lucas. Hate to admit it but CLP is good.
I had the same realization. It was also hard to admit that those motor oils that everybody suggests in place of gun oils maybe aren't the best thing, and are specially formulated for enclosed environments and cant deal with the environmental differentials that guns may.
Excellent I like your approach thx Bob
the firearm community in general is pretty crazy when it comes to cleaners/lubricants etc. But these tests aren't really worth much, for starters if your weapon is bare steel you have bigger issues at hand. Then the extremes to which people are testing makes little sense, facts are chemically these products are all very similar, most are cashing in on a niche market saying they can do this or that when in fact they are not far different from standard cleaning solvents and synthetic oils- we are cleaning/ protecting coated steel and alloys that you only need to apply light coatings of oil to protect, heavy coats is bad, it has more to do with the environment in which you store it. If its a mositure laden area for long periods you will get corrosion. Clean them properly, apply a lubricant and store in a smart place and you will have a lasting finish, they all work people generally stay with what they know.
I agree to a point. In 2022, I've seen many CLPs, oils come & go. Since the 1980s. I currently buy, use Clenzoil, Slip 2000 EWL, Ballistol. Clenzoil is a petroleum based. It may burn 🔥 at higher temps but it has no fumes, odors 👃. It's done very well in other online T&Es. Slip 2000 EWL is decent but can be hard to find locally. I've used it on my firearms with 0 problems. 6-8mo.
I would like to see LSA.
LSA is the best lubricant for guns. Not a great cleaner but it is slick, cheap, and decent at rust prevention. I use CLP with LSA as a lube top off. Works enough.
Would love the round 2 video of this. Having a hard time picking a lube I like
Great review!
Would like to see a comparison between breakfree clp and shooters choice fp10 clp in this test.
I see a big sloppy mess at around 13:40 I can't tell where one fluid starts and another one ends. Sorry, nice effort but what appears to be cross contamination brings doubt about the results. I don't see any reason to watch till the end
Very disappointing that you never bothered to do a Round 2 as promised.
This test is 💩
What your calling a friction test all you’re doing is mixing all oils together wwith scraper you’re not even wiping off the scraper before you do different oils
Yep
Also, clenzoil looked like it won
He literally spread them with the same finger and kept touching them one after the other. Like okay now they are all mixed.. I bet I’d get decent results if I bought them all and mixed them 🤦🏻♂️
Man, it's like none of you guys understand how editing works 🤦🏻♂️
Did you want to watch me wipe my hand off with alcohol, or clean the oil off of the rod and burn off any residual cleaner after each one? I figured cutting that out and getting to results would be a better use of time, but hey, I can leave all that crap in if you're that bored 😉
Rem oil is mineral oil. Safe on every gun surface even woods. But it need alot of work for metals.
Lucas hurt me too, thx for the video
Froglube actually makes a version for below freezing conditions called froglube extreme. Stuff is amazing but like all froglube products, you can’t mix even a little with traditional lubes or it gums up.
Froglube is absolute garbage.
Should have wiped them off because I don't know about the others but I know Rem Oil is designed and made to be an apply and wipe oil because it penetrates the pores of the metal and give the Teflon coating that it's mixed with.
seems like nobody uses triflow...I've had great luck with that, its thin and dries off if nto used for a while but it has teflon in it and even when it looks dry its slick as shit
I thought gun oil was for lubrication, not rust prevention.
I was thinking the same thing. CLP is for corrosion protection/removal. Oil is to lubricate the moving parts that touch. Both should be used together.
hmmm, i've been using BFCLP to clean and protect...then finishing off with with a thin coat of Hoppes #9. Maybe I'll switch to Mobil 1.
I would probably just stick to using the Break Free CLP and don't bother with a coat of anything else.
Should of used the Lucas extreme duty and if you run this test again I guarantee weapon shield would be the winner. I've been using it for the last 4 months and on 2 brand new pistols and there is no usual wear pattern on both.
Weapon shield is amazing. 😱 it has such a cinnamony smell to it.
I been using breakfree clp on my glock43x for a good minute it seems to work great I also have a bottle of pro shot clp with the needle applicator I haven't used it yet but I hear it is really good tho
Thank you for the dedication it must take to run a test like this in the first place. Your results have kind of backed up what I've found over the years. I use CLP almost without exception . In warmer weather I'll use Lucas on trigger and action parts. But through personal experience I'll say Red Lucas will thicken in cold weather to the point of making semi auto 22lr actions gum up and malfunction. I'm ready for round 2 .
Absolutely. It was fun to see what they started doing when things started happening. The lucas did get slightly thick when frozen. add some water and I could see it getting gummy
Are you saying Lucas is water soluble ? That's nuts !
Weapon shield work great
I might take this idea and just start torture testing my 22s
Cool video, but who in the world is going to leave their guns out for days and let them get that rusty lol.
The worst rust I've seen on guns were on one that was worn in a hot day that got sweat on it, and one on a shelf in a closet outside a bathroom door.
Motor oil w30 is literally the main ingredient for silicon based lubricant
My understanding is that oil is a petrol product while silicone is not petrol based. That's why its (silicone) safe to use on rubber/plastics.
Thank you
New to your channel, have you tested Slip 2000 EWL?
Holy contamination
Not very "scientific", was it?
Which would be the best cleaner?
Didn’t have to watch it, It’s a Unicorn Video. . .you know who when’s already
Gotta subscribe to a fellow Hoosier!
Add ballistol
Clp will burn off in less than 50 shots it’s good for cleaning though. If you lube with slip 2000 you’ll be ok. I’m currently using battleborn hp pro which is a thicker version of the battleborn used in this vid. From my experience I have found 4 lubricants that don’t burn off. The first is Fireclean I know it gums up in storage but it’ll stay wet for a few months and hundreds of rounds through several range sessions. The second I found is slip2000 EWL which is tested here this stuff kinda soaks into the metal to where it almost feels dry but you can see a sheen. To me Slip2000 doesn’t make my guns feel as slick as the other three but it’s also the thinnest of the four. The third is Lucas Oil Extreme duty. The only thing I don’t like about Lucas Oil Extreme duty is the smell. It does make the gun feel super smooth though and it does hold up to multiple range sessions. The fourth Lubricant I’ve discovered that doesn’t burn off is What I currently useBattleborn HP pro. It’s slick like Lucas but without odor. It also conditions like Fireclean.
I've not seen any indication of CLP burning off any more than others, or to the point of failure. I got that friction bar significantly hotter than any gun should be getting, and it didn't cause enough burn off to increase corrosion or friction at all.
If you are worried about burn off, check out Molecular Advantage (shown in the test). it contains no oil products and has no flash point. it literally cant burn off. the only issue i found is that it gets slightly thicker in extreme low temperatures. but it'd be worth a shot.
WorkTheTrigger maybe I got a bad batch, when I first got into shooting I used clp. I used the break free in the aerosol can with Teflon if that matters I loved how it made my pistol feel before shooting but after about 35-40 shots the pistol would be dry and I would need to add more. At the time I was breaking in a SP2022 at the time btw those require a lot of lube the first couple hundred rounds.I still use it on my bicycle drivetrain though on all the friction points and I clean my pistols with it occasionally for the protection it offers. For me this test validated my use of clp as a preservative. If money were no object I would say buy 10 pistols all the same model then lube each one with a different product and shoot em and then see what happens maybe we should start a go fund me?
I have a pareon 😉🤣
I typically stay away from the aerosol versions, I feel they're more for general use and storage, not neccessarily high use applications
M-Pro 20 please