What Makes The CAUCASUS Nations So Important?
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- Hey Madlads! Today's video is all about Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan, and what makes them important in international geopolitics.
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Balkans: Guys we found Brothers!
Caucasus:Hello
Now in Armenia everybody knows that russia is not our partner. Now we have good relationships with France and India.
+++ Russia Enemy!
Be strong guys. We are with you. 🇮🇳🤝🇦🇲
Of course. Then Russia fought for Armenia and we saw that Armenia can’t do anything without Russia. Who is bad? Of course, Russia. By the way, how do you think, where Armenia will join first? EU, NATO or Azerbaijan?)
@@firetruck5339+ Azerbaijan owner, will be helpful slogan for Armenians
yeah since the war in Karabakh which happened recently, Im happy for this Armenians realized finally the RuZZia is evil
Thank you for quite an impartial video. The traditional dance of all three counties in the Caucasus region is just absolutely exquisite!
Very interesting, thank you ❤️
Fascinating, informative and balanced video. If only the BBC could be so professional. I really enjoyed listening to your narration and have liked and now subscribed. Well done.
Great stuff
Well as Georgian i would see all these 3 states united together! We need each other! This region always thrived when it was united! We all are brothers there! We are just thrown to tear each other because if we are together this region would give us more power, politicly, economically, in every aspect! That’s why they killed Transcaucasia idea in couple of days! That’s why they destroyed Yugoslavia, imagine them united again and not fighting between each other! They would be above british in economics, ah guys don’t mind me i am just a dreamer
Azerbaijan is always with you. We live next to each other for years and even though we have different religions we ALMOST never had a fight
We have nothing in common and are ethnically and racialy different
If we united with theme azerbaijans would dominate the state since there biggest ethnic group
@@user-xf1sm1lv4n but our Caucasian cultural similarities are priceless Genatsvale 😁 ! We were and are only divided by/because of russia more than anyone else.
@@user-xf1sm1lv4n I actually agree with you in terms of being the biggest ethnic in the region but we lived next to each other for so many years both Georgians and Armenians and Azerbaijanis we lived and studied, grown around one another, had friends and teachers from one another and our Caucasian dishes and kitchen are one of the best in the world in my opinion. I'm proud to be Caucasian !
i think ur videos are great
Good review video
Greetings from Georgia 🇬🇪
Awesome vid 👍
Your narration has really improved a bunch! Great video Mac, keep it up.
Meaning? Azerbaijan had the Empire of Atabeys, Kara Koyunlu, Ak Koyunlu, Safavids and Qajars.
I'm sorry if I misunderstood (English is so-so)
Not really
@@pixistypses5406 Tipo it refers to the Middle East, and not the Caucasus? But what about the Baku Khanate, the Cuban Khanate, etc. then? who were in the Caucasus? I understand that Azerbaijan does not have such an ancient history, but after all, Azerbaijan also has a great and interesting history.
Here are some of the countries listed:
Kara Koyunlu
Ak Koyunlu
Safavids
Afsharids
Qajars
Nakhchivan Khanate
Irevan Khanate
Karabakh Khanate
Baku Khanate
Urmiya Khanate
Ardebil Khanate
Ganja Khanate
Quba Khanate
These were all Azeri/Turkic
empires and states.🇦🇿
@@pixistypses5406 There was also the Azerbaijan Democratic Republic, and South Azerbaijan (In Iran) the Democratic Republic of Azerbaijan. There was also the Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic as part of USSR and so on...
@@AliyarGasanov just because the dynasties were Azerbaijanise doesn't mean safavid belonged to Azerbaijan. If we're being honest, if safavid was alive today they would have destroyed all Turks and Israel which is literal opposite of Azerbaijani identity
@@pixistypses5406 So I say that the Safavids are Azerbaijan.
Azerbaijanis had all the power, Azerbaijani was the official language, all Persians were lower in Stas than Azerbaijanis. The entire elite spoke Azerbaijani.
And at that time, all the Turks consider that they hate each other. Power, lands and strength were important to them, and not the family ties of peoples.
And now Azerbaijan supports Israel, as Israel helped Azerbaijan in its time.
At present, southern Azerbaijanis also do not like Israel, but northern Azerbaijanis (Modern
Great video!
To say turkey capitalized on Azerbaijan's oil is not really accurate. Azerbaijan had initiated all the regional projects actively trying to make turkey interested to decrease our dependence from Russia. Azerbaijan also invests big sums in turkey to keep them interested in region. Same with many international companies who are involved to make sure big nations profit from our wealth and are not interested in destabilization of region.
Good video, I found you on tiktok
I just noticed yes you indeed explained the history, internal problems, relations between the three nations and which nation gets influenced by which power, the demographics so bascially their general situation very well but since the title is "What makes the Caucasus nations so important" I hoped that would be the video about. I mean yes you did mention the energy supply via Azerbaijan but that felt more like a sidenote. I mean it's still a good video but the title doesn't fit with what the video is actually about.
I think I made my point that being between three emerging powers, and with the competing influence of these powers, the Caucasus nations are rather important.
Georgia is very important for those countries as a transfer.
"Caucasus" or as they are also known- Balkans 2.0
Pretty much
Reverse card. Balkans are Caucasia 2.0
Cause we started being us long times ago, before Balkans
Pritty much
The Balkans of Asia pretty much
opposite, balkans may be more known,but we are more acient,we have unique culture and richer history
Because yes.
Thank you for pronouncing Ossetia correctly 😄👍
Who told u that Azerbaijanis were not in Caucasus before 11th century? Educate yourself Kypchak tribes lived here from early medieval age around 5th century Sabirs Khazars all ruled Caucasus at some point.
we are oghuz tribes, not kipchak
Please make a video on Finland
"Happiest Country in the World"
Heh
What about the possibility of Finland (and both NATO and the EU) backing Karelian and Ingrian secession from the Russian Federation?
@@roberthoyt7921 that’s a good video topic
@@MadMacGeopolitics Please, Make a Video on France and US relationship as Blunder Biden has again made a Blunder and broke 200 years relationship with France.
@@Sports590 I am making a video about Biden’s blunder in Afghanistan for tmr, but this sounds like a good one too
Nice
cool ty:D:D
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Love Georgia, from Armenia!
Azerbaijan also has a strong relationship with Israel. Which makes things even more complicated.
No, it's not. Iran is agressive and religeus backward state, and Isreal offered their help to Azerbaijan
@@emilturangi7145 Huh? Azerbaijan has an amazing relation with Israel
a very shallow one yes, it's difficult to explain, as Azerbaijan has consistently voted in favor of the Palestinian state and people in almost all UN resolutions. Israel serves as an arms dealer to them, and as a political stabilizer in the neoliberal political stage.
I always had this question. Is the republic of artsach still, de facto independent to some extend at leaat?
It’s de facto independent, but currently is occupied with Russian peacekeeping forces
I'm from Azerbaijan and I can say it with confidence that there is no such thing as Artsakh after the war.
@@ismaylezimli6111 Im from a place that doesnt force feed me news and I can confidently say that there is an Artsakh, post war.
@@ismaylezimli6111 All of artsakh is armenian. Unless azerbaijan completely genocides the entire area, (which i wouldnt be surprised if they tried to), it will never be peaceful. The people all want to be in armenia. But azerbaijan just won’t let go. They’ll keep trying to destroy and turkify the area just like naxichivan.
@@allen5768 It seems that the Armenian lobby continues its activities here. Where does so much sympathy for Armenians come from?😔
Georgia 🇬🇪🥰💪🏼💞
0:35 Lmao.
I'd like to add that your description of Armenia's foreign relations at 2:45 might create a perception among some people that Armenia is an anti-western country - which isn't the case. Armenia diplomatically gets along with pretty much every country on Earth, with the exception of Turkey and Azerbaijan (& maybe Pakistan), of course.
Anyways, this is a pretty well made video about the region - kudos to you!
Armenia may be dependent on Russia for a few reasons e.g. military, but Azerbaijan is also an anti-Western state given its endless repression against civilians, media outlets are hostages of the state, and dissent and criticism of the government there is outlawed and so on.
Yeah!
Azerbajacnis never as NATION didn’t existed before 1918!
They’re are only there as ETHNIC(Persian-Türks)since 1150AC there and he did what false:
Türks Are in Caucasus and Anatolia since 1071-1100AD!
andddd U.S and azer dont have gud relations, opposite they have horrible relations especially with biden on the throne
@@roberthoyt7921 Azerbaijan is not an anti-Western country. On the contrary, it protects the interests of the West in the region. Azerbaijan and Israel are strategic allies. At the same time, Azerbaijan has excellent relations with the European Union. Many European Union countries have signed a document on strategic alliance with the country. It is free to criticize the government in Azerbaijan. What you say is completely fabricated and does not reflect the truth. You are biased against Azerbaijan.
@@roberthoyt7921 Armenia is an outpost of Russia and is completely dependent on Russia. It is a member of the Eurasian Economic Union, founded by Russia. Armenia is also a member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO). The CSTO is a NATO-like military bloc and is based entirely on anti-Western policies. Russia has a military base in Armenia. Armenia is a strategic ally of Iran, another anti-Western country. Armenia, together with Iran, is involved in drug trafficking in Europe.
The bad thing is: The countries around Georgia are always raging in Georgia. Then Georgia always has to settle disputes like this. And when we need help against Russia, everyone turns away from us. Wow!
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azerbaijan did not in 2008 actually they actively helped us during the war
@@daima8934 Thats True
@@Schmusbek21898we lived next to each other for such a long time and have a lot of respect and love for our genacvali brothers )Love Georgia from 🇦🇿
my man said Azeris didnt come until 1000ad but still shows Atropatene and Albania 💀
Ur delusional
??
@@somerandomduud4086 Albania was an ancient country in the Caucasus to not get it confused with todays Albania,and Atropatene was also an ancient Azeri country,Historians even say that the name "Azerbaijan" came from this country that existed between BC III century - AD IV century
@@saidmasimov why are you denying your ancestors came from central asia? are you ashamed of something? stop with the fairytales and accept the facts. Just listen to the azeri language. It is totally different from the other langauges in the region. The turkish migration from central asia during the 11th and 12th is something that is well documented and all historians agree on.
@@TigranHakobyan-jh8ue Turks are spread widely around the globe.Albania was a mostly turkic country.If you really are following what historians say then you would have known the the word "Azerbaijan" came from "Atropatene".Also I am proud instead of ashamed.My turkic ancestors dominated almost all of Asian territories that was civilised and Europe. What about your country? Armenia was mostly vassal of other countries in its existance,was a toy of Romans and Parthians and now a toy of Russia XD
Could I get your discord server? I couldn't find it
Use this link: discord.gg/Fe2XDVcF
As someone who has been in Georgia, Azerbaijan and İran all l can say is a war can happen anytime specially between Azerbaijan and Armenia
witch country, did god gaved the land?, i know answer, i want yours
Judging by ur profile pic I’m gonna guess Georgia, but I’m pretty sure god gave the land to MURICA 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😂
4:55 No, If you walk the streets or Batumi or Tbilisi you will see the population is NOT declining there, you will see there more babies than normally in western countries!
Yo Im no expert but Ive been spending the last year travelling the caucasus and theyve definitely been pronouncing it as "O setty ah"
You know what’s funny is I used to pronounce it like that and then some “experts” told me I was wrong
@@MadMacGeopolitics hard for me to believe. was just in north ossetia a month ago. Living like 20 km away from south ossetia for the next couple months. Never heard it pronounced "O sea sha" yet.
@@BH-gh6qm we’re talking American “experts” here who pronounce it o-see-sha
@@MadMacGeopolitics Hmm theres a subreddit called r/askcaucasus. They would know whats up. Im genuinely curious now.
Georgians united the Caucasus in the 12th century
Occupied*
No one asked to join Georgia in 12 century.
@@emilturangi7145 It is a fact that Georgia conquered the entire Caucasus and had vassals
@@Uusjshb7 Conquered and united are different. That what I wished to adress
@@emilturangi7145 At that time, Georgia was spread over the entire Caucasus
@@emilturangi7145 Well it was an empire so just like every other empire it was expansionist, though many countries joined willingly (most notably Armenia) since following demise of Byzantine empire there was no other power left in the region that could protect them from Muslim invasions. So saying that no one asked to join Georgia is factually incorrect.
Yooo bruh were is North Caucasus?
I live in Azerbaijan
I'm disappointed than no one recognises the North Caucasus. There are many ancien nations as in south Caucasus back in 1763 we still have been independent from anyone. But we couldn't regain independence when USSR collapsed, which is unfortunate. But we are and we will be till the end of the world.
Azerbaijanis have been in Caucasus before 1000 ad
No they have not
@@sidequestenjoyer7037 they were, Shirvanshahs, Salarids, Sajids
All of them were Iranic@@fantom_rr595
@@sidequestenjoyer7037
i like when outsider knows my history better than i do
Azerbaijan also has a great relationship with Israel. Probably the best after Turkey.
Those are not the real Jews of Israel tho the black man is do your research real research
Ты откуда?
@@yungseer8786 wtf? did u also fall into these conspiracy theories? hahahahah
@@rigifali what theory 🧐 it's the word
This reagion is not CAUCASUS ,this is Trans Caucasus.Caucasus ,North of the Caucasus mountain and Caucasus nation live in Russia Federation nowadays.Abkhazians,Circassians,Osetians,,Chechens,Avars,Lazgies,Lakies and Dargies
Georgia is under Russian threat for a long time.
But Georgia has been helping Russia in Ukraine war by allowing western supplies pass through its borders.
I am Armenian and I love it, it's amazing, I can't wait till I go to your country.
Truly Caucasians have warm and interesting culture, great unique music, food, and Caucasian women are so beautiful, they have light skin, beautiful faces and body.
We Armenians are semi-Caucasians too.
Interesting I didn't know armenians consider themselves semi Caucasian. That is how I see Azerbaijan too.
@@Samirustem No, the Azerbaijan people are not semi-Caucasian, they are Turkish people.
@@bestdrummer4607 infact there is NOT any azarbijan(not azErbijan) in the north of aras river.what is azarbijan state today is IRAN's seperated province aran and shervan which cursed stalin stole the name of AZARBIJAN from real azarbijan inside IRAN's borders ! also people of that area are turkifed persians
@@AndrewJohnson-hq3di complete bs, those oghuz turks who call themselves “azerbaijani” used to conquer what you know as “Iran” up to 4 times (Atabegs, Qaraqoyunlu, Aqqoyunlu and Safavids) and yes, i dont recognize Safavids as iranian state because it was formed by kyzylbashes ruled by Ismail Khatai who was ethnically azerbaijani who spoke and wrote in azerbaijani.
@@fantom_rr595 nobody gives a fk about what you recognize or don't recognize !! There are alot of strong ,obvious and undeniable evidence that prove everything .shah Ismaiel root is kurdish .
His ancestors immigrated to ardabil and settled there.
The safavid consider themselves Iranian not anything else.
When we talk about azarbijan ,we mean real azarbijan inside Iran not the fake state above aras river.
When I hear the ugly sounded name oghuz my ears getting infection.
The oghuz tribes were uncivilized savage nomad invaders from deserts around mogolia that ruined everthing in azarbijan and as rulers in some period of times have had not enough population to change gene pool of the region .
As like mexican that speaking spanish don't make them spainsh,speaking turkish don't make azabijanies turk .
So stick your point in your @$$ hole and fk off 😘
Oh lord, I’ve made enough videos on the Caucasus, I can’t stand this topic anymore
Ohoho, well I’m still expecting your view tmr, so…
Cope :D
_you will be back_
I live one of the countries can u guess it?
Georgia?
Samegrelo because of the -a ending 💪🏿 just like me
The author does not have information at all or is blatantly lying.
Love from Armenia 🇦🇲❤️💙🧡
1918*
I`d like to see Georgia and Azerbaijan in EU very soon. :)
Azerbaijan? Nice joke. :P
@@theyeening What is your problem with Azerbaijan?🙄
@@ismaylezimli6111 Other than the fact that it's a borderline fascist & nepotist dictatorship with North Korean style propaganda, political repression and most importantly - that it's guilty of ethnic cleansing (genocide) against indigenous Armenians of Artsakh/Karabakh and even Armenia itself (''Zangezur claim''(*!*)), I have nothing against it, really.
@@theyeening Since that country is definitely the 'Belarus of the Caucasus', I guess Azerbaijan is already ineligible to join either NATO or the EU. Turkey on the other hand must condemn Azerbaijan and recognize its role in the Armenian genocide or else it will be suspended from NATO until further notice.
Also, the US and the rest of the world must no longer accept Azerbaijan's sovereignty and integrity over Artsakh and Nakhchivan (both belong to Armenia historically). The Aliyev regime must go now.
If Turkey does not recognize the Armenian genocide and admit its role in both it and the Hamidian persecutions (Turkey was then the Ottoman Empire until after WWI), then the possibility of a de-facto breakaway state in northeastern Turkey backed by Armenia called the 'Republic of West Armenia' would most likely happen once Artsakh becomes either a de jure independent country or de jure part of Armenia and gains international recognition for either one.
@@roberthoyt7921 That's a based scenario you're describing there. Hopefully at least some of it can happen. :P
Georgia was bigger btw😏
ottoman empire ruled greece too my dude. What’s that map. What else is wrong in this video. Dislike, stopped watching. Amateur.
The old Armenia is not new Armenia
They have the same name but different people
No nation stays same 2000 years
We are the same... Yes, our DNA have changed as we are talking about +3000 years) We used to have blonde hair and blue eyes.
@@Samirustem Asian people won't agree with you
@@davidmuradyan4014 Ես հայ եմ բաց մազերով և բաց աչքերով:
i dont think azerbaijan and iran could be good allies due to the ongoing south azerbaijan issue
Azeris are aboriginal people in the Caucasus. The local population of Caucasian Albania played an important role in the ethnogenesis of Azeris.
Azeris are quite similar to turks, they are not Caucasians, the native are Lezgins and others.
@@c3cxla The strategic geographic location and the charming natural beauty of Karabakh have been the main causes of the various clashes and bloody battles over this territory ever since the Stone Age. The region is considered to have been one of the most important areas for ancient human settlements, after the Mediterranean, North Africa, and China. Archaeological excavations in the 1960s in the prehistoric Azikh cave in Azerbaijan, which was discovered in Karabakh and is located 14 km. from the Fizuli region, as well as the remains of a primitive man’s jaws (called the Azikh man/Azikhantrop) that were discovered at this archaeological site, prove that Azerbaijan was inhabited by humans between 350,000 and 400,000 years ago. Because of these discoveries, the territory of Azerbaijan has been included on a map showing “The ancient settlers of the Europe”.[1]
The Azerbaijan state-Caucasian Albania, which had been a crossroads between East and West, North and South from ancient times, was a meeting point of different ethnic groups, religions, and cultures, and covered the northern part of historical Azerbaijan, including Karabakh. The population of Albania was diverse: Albans, Utians (Utiy), Caspians, Girdimans (also Gardmans, Gardamans), Tsavdeys, Leqs, and Gargars (Gargarians) lived there.[2] Caucasian Albania, which got its name from Alban ethnic group, possessed military and political power as well as cultural influence in the Near and Middle East, and it had good relations with regional countries. For the first time, the name of Alban ethnic group was used by Arrian, the author of second century, in his records about the Battle of Gaugamela between Alexander the Great and Darius III of Persia in 331 BC.[3]
As an ethnic group Albans were the leading tribe in Caucasian Albania, as well as in the whole region. Therefore, according to ancient scholars, Caucasian Albania took its name from Albans.[4]
The ethnonym Alban had two different meanings: firstly as the name of the all tribes that lived in Caucasian Albania, and secondly as a name for the leading ethnic group that ruled over all tribes in Caucasian Albania.[5]
There are also two different opinions as to the origin of Alban tribes among scholars. The first group argues that they are of Caucasian origin,[6] while the second group maintains that they originated from the Turkish ethnic group.[7] According to Geybullayev, existing of Turkish ethnos that called Alban and lived among Kazakhs, Turkmens, Kyrgyz, and Garagalpag in the Central Asia at the end of nineteenth century proves that as an etnonym the name Alban originated from Turkic languages.[8]
Reference
[1] Mahmudov, Y.M., Azərbaycan: qısa dövətçilik tarixi (Bakı: Təhsil, 2005), pp. 6-7.
[2] Azərbaycan tarixi, Vol. 2, (2007), p. 26.
[3] Флавий, Арриан, Поход Александра (М.-Л., 1962), pp. 110-113-114.
[4] Qeybullayev, Qiyasəddin, Azərbaycan türklərinin təşəkkülü tarixindən (Bakı: Azərnəşr, 1994), p. 31.
[5] Гейбуллаев, Гиясаддин, К этногенезу Азербайджанцев (Баку: Элм, 1991), p. 62-63.
[6] Шанидзе, А. Г., “Новооткрытый алфавит кавказских албанцев и его значение для науки”, Известия ИЯИМК. Груз. ФАН СССР, том. IV (Тбилиси, 1938), p. 37. See also: Меликишвили, Г. А., Древневосточные материалы по истории народов Закавказья, I, Наири-Урарту (Тбилиси, 1954), p. 405. See also: Тревер, К. В., Очерки по истории и культуре Кавказской Албании (М. - Л., 1959), p. 306.
[7] Ю.Б. Юсифов, Бабаев И.А., “Кавказская Албания в эллинистическую эпоху. В кн.: Причерноморье в эпоху эллинизма”, Мат-лы III Все-союзн. симпозиума по древней истории Причерноморья. Цхалтубо, 1982, Тбилиси, 1985. See also: İsmayılov, M., Azərbaycan xalqının təşəkkülü (Bakı, 1993). See also, Ямпольский, З.И., “Древнейшие сведения о тюрках в зоне Азербайджана”, Учен. зап. АГУ им. С.М.Кирова, 1966, № 2. See also: Гейбуллаев, К этногенезу Азербайджанцев. See also: Memmedzade, M., Azerbaycan Tarihinde Türk Albaniya (Ankara, 1945). See also: Xəlili, Xəliyəddin, Azərbaycan türklərinin təşəkkül və milli inkişaf tarixi (Bakı, 2009).
[8] Гейбуллаев, К этногенезу Азербайджанцев, p. 74.
@@samilsfiyev3874 Canavar
@@c3cxlaThe term "Azeri" was created by Stalin and is a general name given to peoples such as Talish, Lezgi, Lahic and Turkic.
That's flawed logic bro, if that was how it worked then literally every single nation on earth would be considered Aboriginal because every ethnicity has been absorbed or assimilated, no ethnicity on earth just evaporated.
At start its wrong kingdom of georgia so fix it pls
The history of Azerbaijan is one of the most misunderstood, unknown and obscure histories on the planet. Yet, this country still stands with its very unique identity and culture. Which means that it has a long history
too many biases against Azerbaijan, im afraid.
Majority muslim + Turkic + dictator running things is one thing haters capitalize on
(at least the last one is very true)
@@user-ye4ek7gq5c Ilham, surprisingly is very chill and has composure when it comes to dictating the foreign relations, but on internal affairs, he simply doesnt give a f about the citizens and mostly turns blind eye to the corrupt administration.
He has to go peacefully soon or later, and he knows this. Let's see how Georgia and Armenia's (very unlikely) but possible entries to EU shapes Azerbaijan in the future.
May i ask where are you from, good sir/ma'am?
Bro why you are saying that Azerbiajanis is not here until 1000 AD it is not correct
Finally Azerbaijan ended the Armenian bandit's occupation in Karabakh completely and dissolved the Nagarno Karabakh regine. Now, it is timr to focus on Zengezur district of Armenia. They need to focus on that.
0:29 Georgia was much bigger than this
As a half Georgian and half Armenian, I don't understand why Azerbaijani people get so angry when they're pointed out to be the only non-native group in the region.
Who cares? What importance does that have on the 21st century politics, who you are or what language you speak and the God you follow?
It's such a small detail, yet you're all malding over it.
You are right, but we are still mostly natives to these areas. U can check the azerbaijani dna samples, turkic part makes around 20% of our dna, rest are locals
@@famil1289 The main argument is that it's the Turkic culture which your main culture or your "face", which Turkic is indeed the most foreign to the area.
Nobody denies that the people of modern day Azerbaijan/Baku have a lot of local genes, it's the exact same reason why Armenians claim Urartu, even if their language is different it's obvious the people who lived here first didn't just disappear one day and of course it's the same everywhere, Armenia, Azerbaijan, France etc.
If Azerbaijan spoke Turkic but the people called themselves Albanian, it would probably be a different story but then the Udi people would accuse you of stealing their culture too.
Me being both Georgian and Armenian, no matter which side of me you want to look out, my family predates Turks and Slavs by thousands of years lol.
@@vanyuuhi5665 Georgians mostly are, but armenians are anatolian not Caucasian
@@famil1289 Armenians are nowadays proven to be both, actually. I don't say that as a Nationalist either, as I think nationalism is stupid.
Their homeland/stronghold was/is Ararat and Van, which is less than 200 KM from the Caucasus, so as you said about local genetics, it's impossible for Armenians to have been floating around Ararat and Van for so long without interbreeding unless the natives vanished into thin air.
I did a DNA test and it came up as Caucasian almost entirely, even though to be perfectly mathematical about it, I am only 30% Georgian.
What you call "Armenian" today, came from Indo European peoples, and the PIE people pre-date Turkic arrival by a solid 3000 - 4000 years, which is proven in the fact that the Hittite Empire which controlled modern day Antalya before "Armenia" was an independent Kingdom at all, was also Indo European.
I work in the history department of a University in Australia and it's accepted as a fact here that Armenians and Georgians are considered the two oldest Kingdom's and nations in the present-day Caucasus.
That is not to say that the Chechens, Cirkess, Dagestani's etc did not exist - they certainly did, but you'll notice that "Armenia" and "Georgia" always have their own place on ancient maps such as the Greeks and Persians, whereas the northern Caucasus is just blank and written as "Caucasus" without an ethnic designation or title because most of the Northern Caucasus people functioned as their own independent tribes which wouldn't fit on a map.
TL;DR
Armenians have definitely been in the area since at least 2,500 BCE as per Western and independent genetic and archaeological studies.
I personally don't conflict nationalism and history.
If tomorrow, it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Baku had been Turkish for 4000 years and the world was wrong all along, I wouldn't really care.
I care more about historical truths than political bullshit.
Armenians are also not people of Caucasus. More of a middle east. I am not sure why do you think we get mad but depends on context. If you are talking like puttin is talking about ukraine and planning ethnic cleansing maybe that? Those assertion usually don't lead to good things. Realistically modern national identities always merged. Many people of Caucasus are now consider themselves Azerbaijani I am sure also many armenians who assimilated into Turkish culture now call themselves Azerbaijani.
You showed Armenia at it's greatest extend wrong😔
I wish armenia was bigger 😕
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armenia shouldnt be a country at all, it was created by russia to terror the caucasus
I wish all of us ( In the Caucasus) were bigger. 😂
Bring transcaucasia back 🔥
Its Georgia🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪
0:34 in fact, Azerbaijanis and Turks are indigenous peoples Turkified by incoming Seljuks. It looks like the video prefers Armenians over Turks, telling about ancient Armenia and Georgia, with no notion of Caucasian Albania, which is the ancient predecessor of Azerbaijan.
Caucausian albania has barely anithing to do with modern day azerbaidjan,
They changed religion language culture
And ethnicity as well.
One of the main things which they have in common is land.
@@sabakvetenadze6546 the land is the only thing they have in common. Caucasian Albanian has absolutely nothing to do with Azerbaijan.
@@armeniancrusader7908 true.
@@armeniancrusader7908 The people of Caucasian Albania are made up of different nationalities. One of them is the Turkics, and we come across Azerbaijani names such as "Javanshir" in the Albanian government.
No they aren’t
bro where is safavid empire? afsharid? atropatena? you guys are dont like us maybe
Turks immigrating to the west wast in the 1000s doesn't mean that there were no Turks in the Caucasus and that they didn't have countries. they did
I kid you not, the caucasus is the most nationalist region in the entire world 🔥
Out of several separatist/de facto states in the post-Soviet sphere, only Artsakh will become independent. The rest, on the other hand, are recognized as lands taken hostage by Russia.
- Abkhazia - Part of Georgia taken hostage by Russia
- Artsakh - Independent country or part of Armenia. Most governments worldwide recognize it as part of Azerbaijan, but Armenian communities worldwide regardless of size and their allies say otherwise (10 to 12 US states e.g. Rhode Island, Massachusetts, California, and New Jersey recognized Artsakh's independence from Azerbaijan).
- Crimea - Part of Ukraine taken hostage by Russia
- Donbass - Part of Ukraine taken hostage by Russia
- South Ossetia - Part of Georgia taken hostage by Russia
- Transnistria - Part of Moldova taken hostage by Russia. Since it's wedged between two pro-West states (Moldova and Ukraine), Transnistria will be reunited with Moldova under international watch.
Indeed
Level of delusion here. If there were some hopes of NK getting independent, that was completely eliminated on November 10th, 2020. Most they can hope for is cultural autonomy within Azerbaijan whether you or some other "crusader" likes it or not
@Robert Hoyt You do realize the war is over don't you?
You also do realize you're literally asking people to back an illegal militia group which invaded their neighbor's internationally recognized territory and ethnically cleansed over half a million civilians in the 1990s.
Pressuring some random state official to make a statement on an issue he/she obviously has no clue about isn't going to change these facts.
So can we please stop glorifying horrific ethnic cleansing. I'm literally sick to my stomach right now reading your insanity.
@@MadMacGeopolitics Azerbajacn Never had an empire before 1918!
So Karavakh shouldn’t be Azerbajacni!
When an 104 years old land steal land from an highly 4000 years old land it’s a bit sad and weird!
@@williamdavis9562 U must be talking about Azerbaijan. Correct? Azerbaijan is ruled by a hostile and repressive Belarus-style dictatorship responsible for countless human rights abuses, a near extinction of independent media (plus others the state cannot control), and a genocidal policy inspired by the Ottoman model responsible for the Armenian genocide and the Hamidian purges before it. Ilham Aliyev is the Alex Lukashenko of Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan's claims to Artsakh should NO LONGER be recognized at any level, and Turkey must STOP backing this 'Lukashenko' and his genocidal regime from Baku and recognize its crimes and that of the Ottoman Empire against the Armenian people.
The 2020 war is over, yes. However, border clashes between Armenia and Azerbaijan may force the world to take serious action against the latter someday.
You didnt mention one of Armenia's ally India🇮🇳.
akkoyunlu🇦🇿
karakoyunlu🇦🇿
safavid🇦🇿
afshars🇦🇿
atropatena🇦🇿
Crimea is russia
Why did you excluded it?
Because it’s NOT
@@MadMacGeopolitics so you’re biased politically
@@MrPeterPan it’s a disputed territory. Crimea is not Russia per international law, but Ukraine has also lost control.
@@MadMacGeopolitics I believe your response is fair.
The only reason I responded to your comment was because I did not want to spend too much time watching a channel which is biased in one direction.
I do agree with you. It’s more of a grey zone and that’s important to acknowledge
@@MrPeterPan I understand your concern for biased content; there’s a ton of it out there, and it can be misleading. I won’t admit I’m perfect in keeping bias out (no one is), but for issues like these I try to take a neutral line, because as you said, there are grey zones in global borders.
Greetings from Georgia!
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Koreans love Turkics more than anyone else, someone forgot the Turk contributions in fighting communists for you😂
@@Gun_Metal_Grey Turkic X
Turkiyen O
@@Sandbox_official ?
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As you mentioned briefly, even coca cola is older than the country of Azerbaijan. That region has always been between Armenia and Georgia. Love from the United States 🇺🇸 to Armenia 🇦🇲
Bruh
It's all game, don't you know
Butthurt much )))) Really coca cola ?))) you had 30 years to dig and hide, took Azeris 44 days to spank your “tigers”. Armenia isn’t even a nation it’s a religious grouping of people with upside down Columbian flag and stolen Ethiopian alphabets. ))))
You look west 80mil Turks, look east 10 mil Azeri Turks, look south 30mil Azeri Turks in iran. Explain?
Press X to doubt
When did he mention Coca Cola? And you are not american, Coca Cola joke is armenian
azerbaijani is not turkic people, he language is turkic
we are turkic
@@fantom_rr595 no
These nations are not considered the Caucasus traditionally and I am confused why this video is claiming this. All these highlighted areas comprise nations are originally from other regions (Kartveli and Armenian people have Iranic roots, and Azeris are a Turkic people who literally everyone knows originate from near modern day China). The real Caucasus is everything on the opposite side of the Caucasus mountains. Get your facts straight. If the Georgians and the other groups think they can hijack and culturally appropriate Caucasian food, clothing, music, singing, art, history and overall culture and that will make them "Caucasian", they are sorely mistaken. Anyone who knows the history of this region well knows that these groups will never be considered "Caucasian" by anyone around them. Shame they can't appreciate their original histories and culture and be content with them. At least in the case of the two faced Georgian peoples, though, I am hardly surprised 🙄
Armenia history as nation begins 2000BC with the Hayasa Azzi staate, Proto Armenian staate!
Georgian history begins with 1300BC Colchis!(Proto Georgian/Kartbelian staate!)
Great another poster child for the "we wazzz kangz and sheeitt" meme.
Well played.
@@williamdavis9562 ?!
What meme you mean?
@@hayellada-ball3836 the meme where you try to be seen as the greatest country on earth in the past nowadays your country is a more of a shithole that is clustered between two hostile nations
Flaunting your nation with history is most pathetic thing to do since you have a declining population and you are struggling economically
Maybe your history was "legendary" but this isn't the 2 millennia bc anymore your country is about to be wiped out in a century or so with the current trends I am sorry but being hostile and not opening up to the turkic relations makes this scenario way more likely
Whatever you go with the mindset we wuz Tigran and Empire mentality
Good luck appeasing the nations that are as twice as strong as you
And good luck with the relations between the Georgians since you have also been making claims on their lands
Actually no. These days scientists found a wine dish which dates back 4000-6000 years back so Georgia is 2000BC-4000BC
@🔥Αρμενιος ελληνικος🔥 It is more than 1.8M old bro. You do know the dinosaurs went extinct way more long than that?
bullshit. Azerbaijanis are not anatolian turks
Really, Azerbajcan is an land with 104 years history!
It never gave an staate or empire before 1918 which was ethnic Azeri!
Azeris as ethnuc(Persian/Türks)exist since highly 900 years, but never formed a nation in this time, because they’re don’t have history they claim other nations empires, like as Sagavid IRAN, Aq/Kara Qoyunlu TURKMENS, Eldiguzids TÜRKS, Afsharids IRAN, Qajar IRAN and a lot more!
They seem to be doing quite well for themselves now.
I hear they recently won a war in an extremely easy fashion.
@@williamdavis9562 yeah!
Azerbajcan won the war with full help of Türkey and Syrian soldiers and weopons from Israel and Oakistan and still needed 2 months to beat little Armenia!
A little pathetic!
@@hayellada-ball3836 So any nation that purchases weapons had "help?"
Good luck finding a modern war where that isn't the case.
Nagorno Karabakh's geography is one of the worst possible places to try to invade. Just moving an army from one place to another in those mountains with zero opposition would take weeks.
It might be one of the easiest to defend pieces of land on the entire planet. The fact Azerbaijan just simply walked in there and took it without much of a hassle is quite literally mind boggling. Did the Armenians try to fight back?
NAPİM
Azeris are aboriginal people in the Caucasus. The local population of Caucasian Albania played an important role in the ethnogenesis of Azeris.
Who's goddamn white baby is that? That baby is white skinded, but not light skinded, that baby is from mountains of caucuses, that's a Slavic baby, that's a viking from Iceland.
When you say that Azerbaijanis did not come to the region until the year 1000, you are absolutely wrong. I repeat - incorrect. Only the Turkic language came with significant Turkic blood, but the local peoples over there have always been the same people. They intermixed, but the Caucasian albanians, the medes, the local Irania tribes - they are all still there and now part of the Azerbaijani nation. Azerbaijanis have the same level of ancient blood as any other people in the region. Their difference is simply that they united later than some others, and that was because there was no need for it earlier or they were small and divided and because the Turkics sparked it. Up until this day, different kind of Georgians differentiate themselves from each other based on the region, but Azerbaijanis no longer do it. They leapfrogged the more mountainous Caucasians
Armenia and Azerbaijan aren't caucasus countries
We are
Technically speaking yeah. Neither of those two are native indegiounous Caucasians like Kartvelians, Megrelians, Lazs, Svanetians, Lezgyans, Chechnyans, Ingushetyans, Cricassians, Kabardins, Avars, and Dargins.
With your logic, you should say USA ain't North American country.
@AnOnYmAuTv well they're not native northern American societies