Automatic Camera Tracking - Can the DJI RS2 Follow a Pastor?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- Camera tracking has improved a lot in recent years and in this video I test how well the Raveneye system works with Active Track 3.0
If utilizing this system in a live stream you will need to split the HDMI signal before it goes into the raveneye. Either with a wireless HDMI unit that has a loop through like this one amzn.to/3zKnyP3 or an actual HDMI splitter.
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Yesterday we used the RS2's Force Mobile feature for the first time during a service and it was AMAZING. It allowed us to place a manned camera of sorts where we wouldn't normally put a camera opp. We put the controlling phone on a tripod in the back of the room and the gimbal on stage. The camera opp reported it was easier to get good moving shots using Force Mobile than it was using a traditional camera on a tripod. Thanks for your video, I didn't know about that feature before your video!
Thank you so much for this amazing video! I was just looking into this test for our church! Thank you 🙏🏾👌🏾
Great stuff here, thank you for running these tests.
Man thanks for doing this video!! I'm a one man show at my church and now I got a camera man when I pick up the rs 2 tomorrow! Good stuff!
how'd it work out for you?
I have had this for a year plus and it still sits in the case/bag...
I MESSED UP and should have been using this WAY EARLIER!! LOL
It looks great, the performance looked like it was more than decent!
Thank you for the video and INSPO to get to using it, I went and pulled it out and am going to hook it up for the GH5.
Great
A good review of tracking
It was so useful for me
Thanks for sharing man
This is really dangerous Ryland... because what I'm hearing you say is I have the freedom to move around as much and as fast as I want. Very dangerous. 😂😂😂😂
Dangerous is your middle name.
Very helpful video - thank you!
Thank you for sharing this!
we have it set up on an iPhone doing Instagram Live for our church...you can't leave it alone for more than 5 minutes coz it might drift if there is not enough contrast. so now we have a camera guy operating 2 cameras... on tripods... love it.. makes sense now to get some Ptz cams... like the fact that you can use it without the phone, because of the tiny screen on the DJI
It works pretty great!
Nice video. We are interested in this setup but not sure how to connect it to our Atem 2 M/E switcher. I saw where someone else sort of asked this question but not sure I understood your reply. Appreciate any information in detail you can offer. I was also told by B & H that the RavenEye has been discontinued which is a consideration if something else is coming that will be better. Thanks for this and all of your other very helpful videos.
It's Amazing bro 🌟
I would use something like that follow, wouldn't be my main look though. We use Manfrotto MVG220 gimbal. It has a time lapse feature that I want to test soon.
I also watch Peter McKinnon. Love his videos.
I own a rs2 and its awesome
I like that you can fine tune the speed. With the Ronin SC and the phone attached you can only chose between fast and slow, or did I miss something ?
Nice video Ryland, but how do you send a clean signal out of the Raveneye without the green box and controls?
Can l use 3cameras with 3 DJIs? If yes can l control using 1 phone or multiple phones ie 3
Love your videos. Are you able test the RS4 and lidar using a long lens?
If I had it, I would definitely test it, but unfortunately, I don’t have access to that
Wish they would put a hdmi loop through on the the wireless tx and super wish they could integrate activetrack into the gimbal itself, so a phone isn't needed for processing
What is the link to this tracker? I need one for our church.
Phenomenal 😧👏🏾👏🏾
I love it
Liked and subscribed! Excellent video!
Question, what was your focal length for the tighter waist up shot?
Asking because I am a conservationist. I think this system will help in animal documentary too!
Hey! I was at full frame equivalent of around 300mm I believe. Thanks.
@@RylandRussell Wow... 300mm still pretty solid. Hmmm... If I get your video right, for longer lenses, it is ok if the cameraperson move, but the subject should be stationary. Am I correct?
This video was very helpful. Does the system work with the small Canon video cameras or just DLSR cams?
Anything with an hdmi output should work.
Hey man, I was wondering if you had the image stabilizer enabled on the 70-200mm while you were doing your telephoto test? Cause some of the awkward movement it was doing reminded me of when I forget to disable image stabilizer when I'm on a locked off shot. I mean, it still wasn't centering you, so it's definitely still got some issues, but I was wondering if it might be a little smoother if image stabilization is disabled.
I know it sounds counterintuitive but I was just curious if you might want to try that!
Ya I tried it both ways 👍🏻
Thank you for this test. I was seriously considering this for our church a couple months ago, however at our church we have multiple people on the stage throughout the service. I thought it may get confused and start tracking someone else. Do you think that would happen or would it stay locked on?
It stayed pretty locked with a couple people on stage at once. The thing that confuses it is when you walk in front of each other. I’m not sure I would try to use it with a group unless I had the phone in my hand to choose who to track.
We tried it with a Ronin SC and iPhone on top of it. When someone passes in front of the subject it switched to that person.
So with the Raven Eye it only needs to put the framed box around the subject, you don’t have to have the phone or adapter on the pastors physical body?
Correct.
Video newbie but can you explain how you send the video feed to the Raveneye transmitter and to a feed for your livestream? Thanks keep spreading good content & the good news!
It’s been a while, pretty sure I used an hdmi splitter out of camera.
Thanks sir! I'll try that out!
totally was considering this setup for a church plant, but the tight shot gives me pause. head to toe would work fine I'm thinking, but bummer on the tight shot - the gimbal motor just doesn't have the precision at that 200mm focal length? or because the target is bigger (box around you) than close in, it just can't react well? thoughts?
I think it’s the really tight focal length, not the framing. If your camera is closer than ours it would probably perform even better.
@@RylandRussell thanks! So head to toe and maybe knees up might work ok?
Hello! Do you know if the Rs3 is better than this one, with LIDAR?
Thank you so much!
I don’t know, and I haven’t really seen any claims or ads that the tracking was improved.
You should of tried doing that when there is a dozen people around the stage and everyone is moving as well. I just got the RavenEye and it has not been reliable so far thinking if I should keep it or not
Well that wasn’t going to be my use case. I didn’t keep it either because it wasn’t reliable with tracking.
Is there something like this that can fit a RED Epic-W or Komodo/Komodo-X?
amzn.to/3CdFKTX will carry komodo
Great video!! Qt. Is it possible to do this as a livestream, feeding into OBS? -Jeremy
Yes, we use a wireless hdmi unit to get this camera feed into our switcher. I have a video on my channel covering those units. 👍🏻
@@RylandRussell Thank you! I'm gonna look for video right now, greatly appreciated!
@@RylandRussell can l have the link of that video
This is really cool.. however it would be truly epic if the gimbal could track using an actual piece of hardware instead of software, then you would hopefully have less tracking errors. Are you aware of any gimbal that will follow a transmitter/device?
I’m trying to build my cable cam setup to not need an operator, and this is the last piece of the puzzle. I just need the the gimbal to be able to pan on its own to keep the stage centered as the Wiral goes back and forth. I suppose my video switcher could monitor/fix the tracking, but it’s not ideal.
I haven't found any gimbal that can do it without using a phone to see the image do tracking.
Now how do you add this setup in your livestream ? Where would you plug the wireless hdmi cable since the raven already plugged to it?
Ya we just used an hdmi splitter
@@RylandRussell Any you can recommend?
Does it still track if you turn around or look away from the camera?
Yes, it does pretty well with that. Unless there are other people behind you.
How would you output the signal for livestream from the camera if you are using the HDMI connected to raven eye? Is there a way to get the signal from raveneye outside of a phone?
We used an hdmi splitter out of camera. One to raven eye. One to wireless video transmitter or to ATEM.
Something about it bothers me, but I'm not sure what it is.
How do you stream the service with raveneye setup?
@@g00se99 hdmi splitter
@@RylandRussell whoa. I didn't know that existed. Thanks.
What happen with the wiral cable cam???? U have until now??
Still use it every week.
@RylandRussell hi thanks for u answer """!!!! Please I need your opinion!!!
Out of curiosity and some honest ignorance, would it work on a cable cam?
The hard thing I've had with that is tracking on a wide shot can be tough as having a clear subject is hard. I only tried it with the osmo pocket, which granted is not on this level, but it never worked well. I tried tracking our big white screen but it wouldn't stay with it.
@@RylandRussell thank you for your response and for all your videos. You’re a great help to the rest of us. God bless
So disappointing that the tight shot just doesn't work. That's what we normally do and I was hoping it would work for us.
I know right?! I think anything over 100mm full frame is kinda pushing your luck. I was surprised how well it worked in head to toe though.
@@RylandRussell yes I was jaw dropped at how smooth that was
Use a 4k camera have raven eye at a wider shot then, in the program software do a digital crop to HD and like magic you have a tracking close up shot.
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My man is getting out of breathe walking around lol
LOL! Too true :)