I try to coach a student that's banned 10 accounts... [Challenger Coaching]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- If you don't know who scuffed_pc is... I don't blame you but let's just say he's a bit of a loose cannon. Still does that make him unteachable? Let's find out.
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For having 9 accts banned, this guy was very self reflecting and obviously wants to improve. Great vid
@WazWut He's not that bad, he just has literally 0 clue how to play his champion. But his understanding of the game is actually way higher than bronze, probably honestly at least at a gold level. He understands the situations he wants to be in, he does not know how to make them happen. It's honestly way easier to learn the mechanics of the game than general game theory.
Thank you man I ordered coaching for the 22nd again
@@scuffedah nice to see you getting some neace coaching scuffed.
@@scuffedah show neace your Cassiopeia mid
@@lazberryx Yeah he's just gotta read the skill's tooltip for once before practicing it. Seems like he went in and tried the skills and made his own assumptions about how the skills worked which is very common for a good portion of humans.
This guy is a pleasure to watch get coached, asking proactive questions like "why this and not that?," "could I gank this?," and "should I do krugs and fullclear or skip them?" rather than sort of trying to imply he was already thinking what Neace said.
the guy is a real gangster
Cuz his ego isn't as inflated as a lot of other people
Adding the reference clear is such a big contrast since it was easy to tell how far of a lead he got with that leash yet he still finished the exact same time
I've really liked seeing @KingStix clears in the last few vids. His jungle content is really helpful
As someone that's played a long time and also deals with getting angry at this silly game. Remember that 99% of the time your teammates are trying their best just like you are. Everyone has different perspectives on macro and what to do in a given situation so try your best to adapt to each game. Like NEACE said in another video, every team is like a new set of cards
>are trying their best just like you are
this is bullshit
shitting in chat is not even close to 'the best like I do"
It's about 30% of the time that my teammates actually tried their best. And of those that did, sometimes their best isn't good enough - low HP level 4 teammate TF mid tower dives their Annie while we don't know where their jungler is, blames me as a jungler just finishing red buff for not diving with them and that's why they died.
He meant new set of tards not cards
Neace: "Calmly walk at the bow man"
Client: "No, I don't think I will"
This was a good coaching session. It was clear that this guy wasn't fully aware of what his abilities actually do. It seems like this is a very common occurrence and neace sometimes doesn't seem to bring it up. In the last few Irelia coachings, for example, neither of his clients ever seemed to use Irelia W ever. It makes you wonder if they even know what her W actually does, and neace never really confirmed if they knew or not. It's also similar for a lot of low elo players who play Garen who might not even realize how powerful his W actually can be when used right so they 'underestimate' it and never use it really. I would like to see neace try to pay more attention to these little details and really explain to some of his lower elo players to STOP and read their tooltips completely and really understand that their abilities do more than just damage/shield.
Thank you man!
and in the most recent coaching the irelia did not even attempt to bait out the morgana shield. it seemed like he had 0 idea of what her bubble does
As I understand he focuses more on teaching the macro play and decision making than the mechanics. I remember he said that even if your not good with mechanics you can climb as long as you have a good macro play. There are even times we he openly admitted that he's not sure how the combos should be executed for some of the champions. But I agree that it would be very helpful if he also highlight the mechanics that needs to be improved.
@@MrEmrys24 Its true that macro is probably more important than your overall 'mechanical skill' but dont misinterpret mechanical skill for basic understandings of the game. If someone is still at the level that they don't even know what all the stats do, don't have a general idea of what most of the champions can do, know what the items do, etc; then they cannot really learn macro at all yet. And in that case, Neace needs to just understand that he needs to lower himself and just give the student what they need, which is telling them how to understand the basics, first.
@@RuecianGray If you don't understand what stats do you either haven't played enough or you belong in the depths of iron.
I like this client attitude, he asked a lot of questions, really useful ones for me atleast, hope he climb up to his elo goal
He is so terrible I made it about 14 min.
Dude is like a chimpanzee playing. Can’t aim for dogshlt. Smiting wrong people, can’t hit a single e which is a point and click ability. Can’t hit an ult which has an aoe of half the screen. Horribly annoying nasally voice . 0/10 quit league
I'm in the first 2 minutes of the video and already loved this guy, he seems to be really trying to improved as he perceived that his behavior until now wasn't healthy and good for him to actually improve.
Yes thank for that check out my coaching on the 22nd too
This guy doesn't seem bad he's learning I actually like the gameplay. Sure its rushed but there's lots of stuff being learned here plus he's fishing for value which is always a good quality
if u think he's not bad u are silver
This guy is very bad, messy, sloppy and so rushed, v bad mechanics, least he's trying to improve
ok lets be real now. this guy is absolutely horrendous. he seems almost like new player but atleast he wants to improve. i truly hope he will.
@@izee4814 he cant be a new player when he has 10 accounts
@@dejojoo Why not. Rager who started playing the game, got his account banned for racial slurs/whatever and made new account every time. Seems plausible to me.
Dude is obsessed with focusing the Ali tank support!
moooooo xD
Watching bronze players is a torture.Neace has probably the strongest mental in the league community,watching bronze and silver players for a living.I cant imagine doing that.Obviously its not the players fault for not being that good but its still pain watching it
Funny I feel the same about anything below D4-3. I think it's just League.
@@oldsloppy69 yeh
What's painful for me is watching some of neace's students who are ranks above bronze, playing like iron players.
@@oldsloppy69 my friends who are above plat can’t play norms with my friends under gold. Skill gap is too large and tbh they are a bit too “gamer” when just trying to chill, probably part of the reason they’re diamond and I’m hardstuck bronze though xD
But yeah, my point is, watching people do something clearly incorrectly is painful, and increasingly painful as you become more familiar with why what they are doing is incorrect.
@@russaz09 Honestly I had the most passion for this game when I was in low ELO. After you reach Diamond, the game is done. Neace understands. I'm still addicted though xD
Pigeon can’t imagine getting banned 10 times
Ye losing over $2k on my first ban was enough to correct me on my next account
@@oldsloppy69 2k??? I lost like 200 bucks and I was put in my place lol
@@dakota4277 I'm not proud.
i got banned more than 15 times
@@oldsloppy69 I saved and saved and saved an got a hextech skin. Banned a few days later
Btw if that guy might actually read this: blaming your teammate is a defensive mechanism of your mind to protect you from feeling ashamed. It helped me to instead of blaming my teammates I apalogized for what happened so my mind automatically went into the state "what did I do wrong". Like this you find your mistakes faster and stop blaming anyone else. It's basically just a habit you need to adapt.
yeah it is built in human behaviour. This is frustrating me why didn't you do this this and that in order for me not to die.
honestly its refreshing to see that this guy was very understanding and even if he made some bad plays he tried his best every time
This is a good example why fighting with teammates is pointless. Imagine your jungler hard flaming you and it's this 10x banned guy.
Doesn't aim ult, doesn't understand using cc properly, focuses the Alistair instead of the adc, and missing kills because he's canceling autos.
This is the people you're getting in fights with.
Yeah and thats why im trying to get better
Doesn't even understand how to clear his own jungle camps XD!
@@marcusmeins1839 Yeah im learning still but i booked again
@@scuffedah for you too man, don’t pay attention to their pings, it’s just going to distract you. I think your the person in the vid? If so, thanks helping us learn our mistakes from yours, I don’t think I would have the confidence to take direct criticism and you took it well. I don’t think you’ll be stuck in bronze for very long if you keep at it :)
@@scuffedah Don't take what these guys are saying too personally either, it's true. If any of your laners flame you or ping you while you're doing shit you know is right, ignore them, because if you think about it, your enemy jg and most of both teams in the elo you're currently in are as bad as you were before this coaching and knew just about the same amount about the game as you did. They're dogshit, is what I'm saying. To climb you gotta stay focused and in the moment of the game, don't let them distract you from the bigger picture. If they're typing, they're just like you before you got your shit together.
I love that you added kingstixs videos. Your coaching and his videos is helping me improve
2:15 You can also press the shop shortcut a second time to close it, which I find much more convenient.
REALly thank you?
Yeah, I use P key all the time
@@scuffedah if the P key is too awkward, remap the shop button. i have mine on V i think.
Any mistakes my team mates and i do, i try to laugh it off. Helps to untilt sometimes.
Edit: one time, enemy sion and twitch were stomping the bot lane, then they go missing, my ultra instinct goes off, they are near me in top lane but my greedy ass wants to push one wave and back. I push, hit recall and then get knocked up by sion q from the bush and get killed by twitch.
Furious and hilarious at the same time.
thats a good attitude man, always remember to have fun!
As a amateur coach i always seem to push that into the kids im guiding.
The older players i tend to push it even harder on, cuz attitude is everything in life.
Even if you are a competitive player, fun is always a good quality reward to take from league
Neace, I love your videos for the following reasons:
1. Your streaming and coaching is amazing bro!
2. Your clients you coach are more like a box of chocolates, never know what your gonna get
3. Every time I watch you, I feel like this is the gaming version of Jerry Springer lmao
this video was so good for me because i m in a same sue and when i got banned so many times i had to improve and try to take a chill pill.
nowdays if i smurf i usually just fckin turn of my team chat and focus on the game and if i lose 2 times i definitelly stop because the game doesnt like to get you into good team :)
Macro micro plays works for sure but sometimes its hard to get it why this game is so toxic and unlhealthy.
A game where everyone thinks that they smurfing and ran it down in the first 5 min cause they dont get the roles that they want to play or they just trash ego kids...
The only thing is that i learned from this game is that its like reality when sometimes you just have to let go things because its already ruined.
I like your mentality and wish you the best Neace.
Have a nice day and keep it up with Coaching.
"Do you see that Varus? E and bump into him."
Yup *Ults Alistar and wastes E*
this guys early clear and ganks were really nice to watch, i loved seeing his gameplay, he will for sure climb!
hehe
Spoiler alert last time he played was around the time you commented he's still bronze 3 with a 41% winrate
Did we watch the same video? I'm 15 minutes in and he is using the wrong abilities, targeting the wrong opponent, ulting the wrong way... Bro, what did you watch?
@@poooky321I think the dude just saw everyone praising this... shitshow, and decided that he wants some likes too. This is torture to watch and I'm a fucking silver
Neace even shouting out his boy kingstix. Respect
Thats what I was thinking like that's awesome
I mean he’s the best jungler ig?
@@nzoththecorruptor3690 cool?
Sometimes I forget that because ive played this game for 11 years, certain things are not common sense for everyone. I gotta say the number one thing ive taken from these videos and it even works in low-mid diamond games. just keep it simple, dont over complicate things, dont force plays youd need to be mechanically perfect in to accomplish. "take the inch, dont always push for the mile" basically. So many people cant seem to just take the small wins, and reset. I had that problem for a while too.
bro coached 2015 t1
Give this guy six years and a gym membership and we might have the next one on our hands lmao.
You gotta tell him to press spacebar from time to time. I can’t tell wtf is going on when he fights and I doubt he can either.
I think he said he spacebar key is broken in the vid early on
you are so on point in this coaching it‘s amazing
28:40 i feel like this is singlehandedly one of the most useful things ive taken from you Neace. thank you for that.
I love the sped up videos with commentary
Wow… this “scuffed” guy AKa josh stole my M n m’s rearranged them all by color and took all the blue ones while we lived in a homeless shelter together!
DUDE WHY
What? How can you be homeless and play league though? Is that possible? Or even pay for 250+ dollars in coaching ? Impossible
Just bought VIP bootcamp ticket - LET"S GO
GL HF 🥰
This guy is the reason why I struggled getting out of Bronze, lol.
with that kind of thought process your probably still in silver. if your truly better than bronze then you should be able to carry. notice how in every single neace video the bronze student carries the game with 15 kills and 200 cs. improve yourself and dont focus on your teammates.
@@Familyguy808 lol u have no idea what I go thru in my bronze games
Fears in league were changed to always move directly away from the champion that casted it
“The guy with the bow “ xD
Just started playing hecarim in the jungle, and your explanation of the ult is so good! I had no idea.
i love how excited he got when neace started showing him the mechanics. kinda cute
Actually really like this student, it really feels like he wants to learn and climb
i REALLY do and i booked for the 22nd also too!
0:47 "I wanna stop blaming my teammates for all my [own] failures". That is the mentality needed to improve right there. Great way to start.
My guy has had 10 accounts and doesn't know what an AA really is. I can't hate him for it, but I'm just continually surprised by the reality that not all gamers are super sweaty tryhards.
knowing the absolute basics isn't being a super sweaty tryhard imo =p
The ad section in the middle was gold.
So much pain... I don't even play Hecarim, but I know how he works. However this dude has not even read his abilities
I really enjoy your different types of niece 😜 at least you make the advertisement lmao
“Projecting” is the word he was looking for… At the start of the video when Neace asked his goal at the game.
every time that guy smited alistar i physically cringed
now im actually starting to think this guy might have no idea who varus is
I saw the same issue in lots of junglers when I still played.
They use their abilities before they even get to the laner they're ganking, even though they could simply walk up. Then the gank results in 0 kills or summoners, because the enemy laner simply walks away. It's particularly aggravating when people run in with Volibear Q and yeet the opponent to safety.
Great video...I learned so much from this. Good luck to this guy.
Could've just taught the guy how fear works. What direction do you run when afraid of something? (Assuming no alpha Chad). Wherever the monster lands, the enemy will flee away from.
Jesus, the way you can teach by using apples and oranges basically is amazing!
Keep it up man!
on of his most helpful coachings
Glad he's going to be doing much better but the anxiety I got from watching him waste so much on Alistar 😵💫
I think the 💡 turned on for him I kind of hope we can see him again just to see his progress I think he’s got this
Ordered for the 22nd one more coaching
@@scuffedah Dont order coaching so early on. There are enough Neace videos that get you Diamond+, if you jsut watch them and implement the stuff he says in your games. Dont waste your money, when there is so much free content that you get way more from.
@@scuffedah excited to see your progress bro. These coaching sessions are helping me learn that i also blow my leap/ult straight away when i go for ganks on Kha’Zix.
@@jennykim4809 yeah watch our streams on the 22nd at 9am I booked again
It didn't he hasn't played for a month he's still bronze 3 41% winrate
15:50 the prep and anticipation, the preparation, hahahahaha
this Student's screen saver perfectly embodies him HAHHAHAHAH
I feel like he only wanted coaching so that he CAN blame his teammates. He can be like, Nah, I've been coached by neace, I can't be the problem
I have like 12 permabans. It's just what happens when you play league actively and type in everygame.every game. Roughly 1 permaban a season.
Only takes 3 games you get reported in to get an infraction, only takes 3 infractions to get permabanned.
If you use chat you will have bad games, you will express your frustrations to others, and you will be punished for it.
At the end of the day people playing league of legends want nothing more than the worse to happen to others, and I mean that literally. The policing by riot games adds to the toxicity, by punishing people venting in chat, and gives incentives to soft inting and trolling others instead.
Don't use chat, dont int and instead go afk if you absolutely must (if you afk then don't come back and take a break from league at this point), and if your teammates is trolling keep playing your best and play for fun if the win is too far out of your control.
*TIPS*
Mental + account security > responding to trolls.
1 Don't use chat
2 abuse the lack of punishment for asking when dealing with trolls
3). Always try your best, go afk if you're too tilted
best advice was muting the chat tbh, i did it a little while ago and it is so much better. Even a god tier player wont know exactly whats gone on in your lane because they are (or should be) focusing on their lane more than yours, and lets face it, how often do you see actual good players flame people? removing the chat just saves you from a potential pitfall and loses you nothing
10:37 A skillshot xDDDDDD, man so funny lmaaaaoo. I got hiccups from laughing a lot cuz of that 😂🤣🤣
Pool Analogy was great. Would love a part 2 follow up if he comes back. Be should be able to achieve his goal from this 1 sesh though lol.
Was really cool to see Steve-O getting coached by Neace!
Not even close lmao
I expected a funny video because of the title only to turn out that the video was actually wholesome
Fighting with teammates is completely pointless.
When they made a mistake, 90% of the times they're aware that they failed. It's pointless to flame and it could cause:
A) They play worse for how much stress you cause them.
B) They go AFK or troll you for not wanting you to win.
C) They mute you, so they'll listen to you less.
D) You'll also get distracted.
great advices really nice coaching👍👍👍👍
I swear just from his voice i knew right away this dude is a heavy stoner but he is not bad he just doesn't know league champs and mechanics yet
Sounds a little drunk or stoned lmao
The beginning was very cute actually, he was trying. Don't know what happened later, just watching now
@8:15 "Alistar is always gonna knock you up and throw you away!" Someone's best friend warning them about the cool guy in class.
"Because you went for the Alistar, he's just gonna knock you up and throw you away" Alistar worst potential lover in league confirmed
4minutes into this video and I admire how much he's asking questions.
"When u play hecarim, view it just like a bunch of balls" -MLK
Cheers on adding the jg path
*I got out of Iron, that was a nightmare* Friend listen here, it only gets worse.
I lost my best account.
Definitely chilled me out.
Thought about asking to get it back.
Reread the logs... nevermind 😆
Low elo players can't process thinking the ADC is a threat lol
Damn, it was painful to watch…
“E Varus”
“OK” >ults the guy and misses completely<
I was getting annoyed just watching it.
First time I acculy learned something from Neace.
artic neace single handedly hurt my feelings and motivated me to be better lmao
i rarely get deeper than 10 minutes into your videos because i get so angry and frusttrated due to their plays >.>
I really wanna see the second game now.
I re hired him for the 22nd so youll see iyt maybe
@@scuffedah thanks mate. This was a very entertaining session. I liked your vibe a lot. Keep it up 👍
@@TheRuiPires Come by somtime actually live now
Why does almost everyone in bronze focus the tanks over the damage? Even with Neace telling him to focus Varus he keeps focusing Ali. I'm only halfway through the vid but I feel this is about to a problem the entire time
This game used to make me so fucking mad. Neace's advice of turning chat off worked. I still get pissed off when the 0/9 bot lane @ 10 minuets says jg diff in the end screen, but I guess I should expect that from people with room temperature IQ :)
Honestly LoL has no reason at all to have a chat function. It should just be permanently removed from the game. Any tactical communication can be more than handled by pings.
@@jupiterrising887 God no, chat can be great too, I use it to track summs and play with my team, and sometimes have genuine conversations. Why take that away because a few people are assholes?
I like the part at 640 where u timelapsed the gameplay and kept the audio. keep doing that
This dude focused alistar sooo many times. Like don’t hard focus the tank in the middle of every fight
I'm sorry I can't watch this this must be the most painful hecrome game inexistence
This kid reminds me of myself at season 2. I was bronze too. I peaked diamond 3 three years ago.
It is nice to see how positive he is and open to improve. But idk why its not clear to him that his mechanical skills lack and that its not a coach thats going to help him click better. :-)
Neace: "Take 2 stacks in Q"
Me: Sees KingStix video meanwhile in minized doing E as 3rd skill..
Also me: Confused..
I feel like this has two factors, one is that it is matchup/elo dependend, when there is a chance the enemy invades you on your blue, you want to have all 3 spells aviable. The other reason is that keeping your stacks from chickens to wolves is kinda harder than keeping them from wolves to chickens. Maybe kingstix saw after he cleared the camp that he would not make it until without taking E.
Also when typing this I tought of another situation, if kingstix sees an opportunity to gank bot whilst skipping blue/gromp, he now has e to do that. This player probably will never see such oppurtinity, hence taking 2 in q and full clearing would be better.
9 accounte banned? Imagine getting level 30 everytime, I was sick of the game when I hit 30, but 9 times...
Before perma ban i had an account banned for 247 years. I will pass it down in my inheritance. 🤣❤️
Neace you know I love you, and editor/s too. 🤓 But the video and audio not being synced at certain points because it's sped up ( that bit is kinda cool, don't get me wrong ) just confuses my poor little ADHD brain 💔
The amount of F bombs dropped by this student is impressive.
TIL Alistar will knock you up, throw you away and not even play alimony.
Just missing the second game to see it in action.
10 accounts banned? that sounds like a reformed month for me
Artic NEACE made me spill my coffee
"youre never gonna feel the embrace of egirls" i shoulda signed up for the bootcamp when i had the chance, FUCK
Why does he always say to hit escape to close the shop? I am just curious of the reason? Just because its faster?
This was an intense watch.
Stop it. Oh you mean do it 😂😂
"How much xanax do u take before?" 😂😂😂
He gave Alistar one of his autos on that first gank
If he auto attack moved with his mouse near varus he'd have killed him
Yeah i see my mistake on that one
I believe you can press 'p' again to open and close the shop, in case someone else has issues with the escape key