Why The Sudden Surge Of Reporting On City's 115 Charges As Masters Goes To Arsenal?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- Man City's 115 charges are well documented. They have been covered by everyone, but many of the major outlets have steered clear of discussing them all season, until yesterday. Why?
We look at where the reports have come from and what has caused the surge in reporting after Jurgen Klopp said it tarnishes their legacy, and why these have all cropped up now following the announcement that Richard Master would attend Arsenal vs Everton rather than City vs West Ham.
City's 115 charges from the Premier League aren't new. They've been going on for years, but Richard Keys, Jamie Carragher, Paul Merson and the Athletic have all published pieces in a 24 hour period.
00:13 Adam Keys intro on Man City's 115 charges
00:56 Why Liverpool were robbed by Man City's 115 charges
01:52 What Pep inherited at City
04:15 Richard Master goes to Arsenal on final day to avoid handing City the title (The Athletic)
05:04 Jamie Carragher says 115 charges are inescapable (The Telegraph)
07:57 Paul Merson says City can't be the best until charges are resolved (The Standard)
08:49 Richard Keys says Man City's title comes with an asterick (Daily Mail)
10:33 Jurgen Klopp on Man City (Redmen TV)
11:56 The Athletic on 115 charges
12:53 What are Man City's 115 charges?
15:38 Liverpool Echo on charges
15:45 Aston Villa set for £13.5m windfall over Man City 115 charges guilty verdict ahead of hearing (Birmingham Live)
15:59 Man City could face a £350m compensation bill if sound guilty (Manchester Evening News)
17:50 What can the independant commission do? (Sky Sports)
19:48 Adam Keys conclusion
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The premier league really needs to be carefull what it wishs for, the EPL success story is entwined with Man City they are a massive part of the reason the prem is viewed as the best in the world.
Trying to say City are responsible for fixing the prices in the prem is ludicrous, City are known for putting a value on players, having a ceiling, and not going past that, Maguire being a prime example. Rice (shock horror an Arsenal player) being another example, City do not let themselves be rolled over in the transfer market. You even mention Newcastle, come on man, UEFA have caused this restricted practice, they didnt like the new boys coming in i.e. Chelsea, City and PSG so closed the door so no more sugar daddies can turn up, by linking everything to turnover the gate is effectively closed so any rich person now coming into football wanting to invest in a club are pretty much prevented from doing so. Jack Walker won the prem with Blackburn, that scenario is now impossible all down to Uefa restricted practice. Would anyone begrudge Rovers their moment? Until these practices are ended all the leagues in Europe are now largely set in stone with no chance for new blood. This is glaringly obviously protecting the old guard against the young bucks and if you cant see that you are deluded. This whole mess is a product of restricted practice and a fiercely ambitious football club trying their damdest to push the boundaries just like any other business thats trying to get a foothold, dont forget City had to come from a long way back to catch the top teams so inevitable they had to spend, you are virtually saying they should have not been allowed to do this (old guard elitism?)
Dont forget Arsenal threw the league title away, they had one hand on it but against Villa they just simply didnt turn up, if i were an Arsenal fan that game would have made me furious.
Liverpool and Utd spent years at the top, buying all the best players with no FFP or profit and sustainability anywhere to be seen, your video really is coming across as sour grapes, clutching at any reason Arsenal came up short, they came up short over 38 games because they were not good enough. Trying to claim otherwise and clutching at these 115 charges as a reason for Arsenals failure is ridiculous.
Spot on and Couldn't agree more mate
Without doing 115 , the great man city we see now , will never ever happen at the first place.
If we wasn't in the top 4 and a threat to the red cartel clubs who had their cosy little top 4 place guaranteed every season, then none of this 115 nonsense and UEFA bullshit or Der Spiegel would never happen. Fact.
City’s net spend over the last five years is 7th highest in Prem
We're not talking about the last five years.
when the owners brought city they had about 2-3million fans Man Utd had anywhere between 200-300m fans world wide, why would companies pay man city the same amount in sponsorships etc. makes no sense, unless they were financing the companies to pay these high deals to the club. they are obviously guilty but I doubt anything will be proven.
He doesn’t talk about the actual charges?
If City played by the financial rules. They would have gotten Pep in the first place
Why are you now bringing up this issue?
The title literally explains the reason.
115 charges are a lot in any world 😂😂😂
I shall try here to reply to your reply to my comment, since previous attempts to reply have mysteriously disappeared, the second attempt half way through. So in summary, I read the CAS report in full when it came out. Why Arsenal fans are reading the full judgement, I don't know. Your reply to me is pure sophistry. You say that the 115 charges are why City have managed to get here, and that Liverpool were robbed of so much off the back of this. If that does not mean that you are suggesting City's guilt, I don't know what does. The CAS report, para C343 cleared City of all matters which were in time from 2013 to 2018 as did the banner headline of the report which you appear strangely, to have missed.. They involve ADUG and HHSM sponsorships. Etisalat was time barred. Their paltry 10 million fine, which you initially said was 26 mill, was for non cooperation, not financial cheating. You have been economical with the truth in quoting the time barring but not the outcome of the matters within time. This is a naked, poorly disguised attempt to slur City for matters of which they have not been convicted.
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The figure quoted for fine was in fact £10m as you said, however the other points still stand. City have been told on multiple occasions they must comply with the rules and have failed to do so, which is why many of the charges are for a failure to cooperate. Throughout the video, the key point we come back to is transparency.
I wonder how the other 19 clubs will react if the Premier League’s eventual ruling is considered to be inadequate. Will they breakaway and form a new league? Will the Super League gain popularity?
Great video !!!! I’ve always suspected that there was a Philip Schoffield type injunction out over this and the more it’s discussed the more football can get better. I’m a Liverpool fan who feels cheated over 2-3 titles. I feel sorry for Klopp too leaving with only one 😢
Thanks for the feedback. Liverpool were robbed more than anyone, and who knows how it would have been if Klopp could have spent freely.
What? Alison 67m. Szobozlai 60m. Virgil 75m. Nunez 85m. Keita 52m. Jota 45m. Diaz 45m. Benteke 47m.
A lot record transfers at the time. Don't give me that crap Liverpool couldn't spend as much as city, not having it.
Klopp spent 804m. Pep 950m.
And please don't start saying your net spend is better as that's a cop out.
I think it was because of the Tottenham v man city game..
As a liverpool fan, well said mate i fully agree with what you said. I mean who wouldn;t want to get 1-2 free titles of city chaarges or drop them in 3rd divison 💀sadly i don;t think that will happen either. Atleast cl ban with -300 mil punishment would do something i suppose...
Brilliant breakdown of the 115 charges. Hypothetically, what would Pep achieve with the city team he arrived to on a Arsenal/Liverpool budget?
Klopp was let down by FSG and has this version of City to contend with. He was hit harder than anyone.
Oh here we go again, Liverpool the paupers of the Premier League working on a shoestring budget. No wonder bingo is leaving, the well has run dry. Looks like loan's and free signings for Slot next season.
@maccapacca1778 you mentioned the 'shoestring budget', I was more thinking if he had the 500 million to spend as opposed to his 1 billion odd.
@@GM-io7iv champion 🏆
@@maccapacca1778what 115 charges champions?
Charges unproven my friend. You will be amazed at the outcome. Dribble all teams have spent money Arsenal as well.
Which has been stated in the video. This is a commentary on the surge of reports on City's charges in the last 24 hours.
Why haven't they stepped out into the open and proved their innocence? that would be doing them a huge favour and then they could collect their respect. Answer is because they are guilty, plain and simple.
@@richardbroad2848 They are waiting for evidence that the PL has, as we all are. You can't give evidence against a case that has no proof...? Charges don't mean proof ya know.
@@kattphatt do you honestly believe that the PL would file 115 charges if they had no proof?
@@richardbroad2848 I honestly believe if they did have proof they wouldn't be waiting on Man City. Just hand the proof to the authorities and case closed...
The 115 charges are the only weapon available to rival fans. The only charges which may have given City an advantage are the sponsorship matters. Those have already been decided as legitimate by CAS. Time barring had nothing to do with the 5 years which were litigated.The PL are trying to relitigate them. The other charges amount to one million here and one million there-to Mancni and Toure etc. Those do not even make a dent in the two billion spent by City and give no advantage. The fine by CAS were simply for non cooperation and had no bearing on spending. I think your basic premise is incorrect. As things stand, City have not benefitted by false sponsorship. The charges are unproven and you are sailing close to the wire and to City's lawyers by accepting them as proven. I think City would only hold their hands up to non cooperation as they did at CAS.
If City are innocent, then why are they uncooperative in providing information?
At no point have we accused City of being guilty. We are giving commentary on the reports out there, and we have talked about the concealment of information. It was worth reading the outcome on the overturned ban, and also noting that City were still fined £10m, but this statement stands out:
"The Cas panel of three European lawyers decided by a majority 2-1, however, that it would not consider the legitimacy of those Etisalat payments, because they were made more than five years before the CFCB charges were brought in May 2019, so were “time-barred”."
You can read the full report here.
@@Arsenaltherapy. Thank you for the reply. Your plea that you were only reiterating press and media coverage is pure sophistry and this video is nothing other than an attempted demolition of the club. I had hoped initially from your heading that it was no coincidence that all these stories should come out right now when City are on the brink of a 4th title. But no. Why not next week or next month?
Your claim that is that you are not accusing City of being guilty. And yet you state that the 115 charges are "why City have managed too get here" and "that Liverpool were robbed of so much off the back of this" If that is not suggesting forcefully that City are guilty, then we are not speaking the same language. Your contentions in relation to the CAS case tell the truth but not the whole truth. You have cherry picked the time barred charges and failed to mention that 5 years of charges from 2013 to 2018 were in time and adjudicated by CAS. C343 " the Panel is not comfortably satisfied that MCFC disguised equity funding from HHSM and ADUG as sponsorship contributions" Manchester City were heavily fined by CAS and during that time were able to build a team that won the CL- your statement. I read the CAS judgement as soon as it came out, all 92 pages, but why you, as an Arsenal supporter have done so is disturbing and illuminating. There is no doubt from the evidence of your own statements that you accuse City of guilt. Shall we wait for the hearing before rushing to judgement?
@AbyCarl-my8gq 😂😂pl must show the evidence not the other way around
The majority of charges are for City failing to provide the information that every club has to provide, and then failing to cooperate with an ongoing investigation.
So Arsenal can’t win against Villa during title charging and now he brought this 115 . Arsenal not winning the title due to their own problems not for MC 115 .
How can that make sense... arsenal would be top if city wasn't there... and city shouldn't be there... go back to school ya mongo
This has nothing to do with Arsenal not winning the league. If we don't win it, it's because we weren't good enough over 38 sames; simple. The title of the video explains exactly what it's about.
What an utter load of tripe this guy says!!!
Some animals are morw equal than others....
The 'Lance Armstrong' of English football.
If the premier league doesn’t radically handle this situation with an iron hand, it’s forever going to taint the credibility of the league..
To be fair, they’ve brought the charges and it’s not a legal matter. They can’t unilaterally act. City have the right to defend themselves.
poor guy.... don't cryyy!!! TRUST ARTETA!!!!! HAHAHAHAH
first of all masters isn't welcome to the etihad
second nothing will happend to manchester city
third keep crying
Such an eloquent, well worded comment.
😂😂😂 all I hear is excuses this was suppose to be our small rebuild yr we supposedly loss to much & hung over from the Treble now look us if you can't beat us you'll never do it
It’s funny because in the video we state it’s not about Arsenal, especially not this year and we even say that the standard City have reached could be a good thing for us. But if you hear excuses, we can’t help you.
The butthurt is real in this one 😂
I thank you for making this video, it is exhausting touching this issue with fans from other clubs because of tribalism, but people need to understand is that we all need to take care of the sport we love because it is on its way of being taken out of the people's hands. This is not about Man City per se, this is about sporting integrity and how the leagues deal with shady owners trying to cheat. I believe the PL has learned a thing or two about the Chelsea/Russia debacle and how it ultimately played out. City should be expelled from the league because they have not made this as "mistakes" or missmanagement, they have intentionally cheated and worked their arses off to not get caught. It is truly one of if not the most biggest scandals in recent times.
The key thing is the lack of transparency, which every club is obliged to follow by Premier League and UEFA rules. By refusing to coorporate, we don't actually know the ins and outs of what City have done, but what we do know is that they have been to court multiple times and been told that they must comply, which they continually fail to do. As you've said, it is a matter of sporting integrity.
That's the only way Arsenal can win the league. Arsenal fans hoped Fulhum or Totenham to win against City. Now they are hoping from Westham. Knowing Westham can't win against them, now you talking about 115 charges. CRY CRY CRY more.
strip their titles
Here you go. Another drunk Gigolo.😅
That doesn’t benefit anyone at this stage.
PL got no proof against MC. They would have found guilty long ago if PL had solid proof. Most of the allegations against City are non co operation for failing evidence . PL brought charges against MC and it’s their to proof if MC is guilty or not . City don’t need to provide any evidence. They would be found guilty not providing evidence at best.