Behr vs. Sherwin Williams: which paint is better & is one coat paint worth the price?
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- Behr Marquee and Sherwin Williams Showcase both claim to be one coat paint. But do they give a one coat coverage? And which is the better paint - Behr or Sherwin Williams?
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Once all the necessary paint supplies are in order, we tested the paints. It's clear that in at least a couple of the places, the Sherwin Williams paint went on thinner or painted thinner. The Behr paint seemed to coat better but neither paint covered 100% on the first coat. But in our experience, the Behr Marquee paint did a better job in coverage so that only touch-ups would be required rather than adding an entire second coat of paint to the room.
You can take our word for which paint performed better. Or you can do the same test yourself. We think you will find that the Behr paint was the better paint. Even though Behr Marquee paint cost $5 more than the Sherwin Williams Showcase HGTV paint, it seemed to us that you would use far less of it which would save you money in the long run.
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I painted two rooms 10 years ago. I remember my painter also preferred Behr. I’m about to repaint and I went straight for Behr.
Sherwin Williams Showcase has worked great for me. Actually covered better than the SW Superpaint on 1st coat which was very thin. The Showcase provided 90% color depth on 1st coat. 2nd coat provided true color to sample. Always do 2 coats!
I am a DIYer and prefer to buy Behr Marquee but my experience has been spotty. I have also used Benjamin Moore Ultra and found that to be great coverage however also needing 2 coats. I used a 3/8" nap Purdy roller for both. In my opinion, it really comes down to budget and painting expertise.
Hey Elena,
Really appreciate you weighing in! Well said! I agree with you - budget and experience has a lot to do with it.
Thanks for commenting and watching!
When I moved into my first place I used SW. The paint looked great even after 5 years. I used SW Super paint by the way.
This is not a valid comparison video. First of all, Behr Marquee only guarantees one coat coverage if the Marquee colors are used. In this video, he used a Sherwin-Williams color. Second, the Sherwin-Williams paint he uses is the HGTV Sherwin -Williams Showcase brand, from Lowes. It is not their premium product, in fact it is quite a bad product when compared with brands sold at actual Sherwin-Williams stores. Marquee is (or was when this video was made. It is now their Dynasty brand) Behr;s premiere product. To make a comparison of similar products from both brands, he should have used Sherwin-Williams Emerald (sold at Sherwin-Williams stores) and the Behr Marquee in a Marquee color.
I just painted the kitchen the walls originally were semi-gloss yellow and I bought behr paint semi-gloss ultra white after three coats still didn't cover well and looks very streaky what should I use now I'm so upset sorry!
@@winros you should have primed first and painting anything white always takes a few coats.
Too true. And funny how he liked and commented on everyone's else's comment but yours. Says a lot about his preferences.
@@chandracox6814 yes you're correct I should have. In the end it came out okay. I never had that problem I was painting a friend's kitchen and I am too much of a perfectionist and it drives me crazy! You don't know how much I love paint 🤣 I am an artist! I am a hairdresser that specializes in corrective color! They call me a mad scientist when it comes to mixing hair color or paint colors! Thank you so much for your response! ✌🏼
@@chandracox6814why are using semi gloss for a wall and not eggshell?
White rarely covers in one coat unless it’s already white.The sherwin williams and bher claim one coat coverage when tinted to one of their colors,not one coat coverage with the stock white bases.The bher marquee covers great,probably the best of all the paints ,but it’s not optimized to roll all day like sherwin williams from my experience.The marquee has a lot of friction and drag which is hard on the body when rolling a big house, it does have a nice finish.Thanks for the video!
Hey Dave,
That’s a great perspective - I never took that into acct - makes sense. We appreciate the help! Thx for watching!
@@Housebarons Thanks for the great videos!
Marquee is tough to apply it’s very sticky and it dries too fast.
The sherwin Williams rolls and brushes much better.
I have been painting for 25 years...as a commercial painter I have used Sherwin Williams every day for years and we always needed to prime then 2 coats or more depending on what shade we are painting over but that is great for us that work hourly since we had to do atleast 3 coats...but when I started painting on my own I always always used marquee and I never primed anything (since it had primer in it) and it was guaranteed 2 coats never ever in all these years have I had to paint more than 2...and it didn't matter what color I was painting over...l love marquee and looking forward to trying the dynasty tomorrow 😀❤
Hey SLynn,
Thx for the tip and Thx for watching!
It’s crazy bear comes out with all this different type of pink one cover coat charging all this extra money for paint that you still need two coats i’ve been using Sherwin-Williams are use Doron before they merged I actually use Glenn Premier their paint and primer it’s like $20 for a gallon of flat like 25 for a gallon of eggshell or satin that stuff works great I bought that’s what I’ve been buying because it’s actually cheaper than Sherwin-Williams and it works just as well I did not use it until this year I’m on that Home Depot I got the paint paint program discount I think it’s 20% off so you get a good deal on their paint but I still don’t buy that bear it’s too thick You can’t get a lot of coverage out of it I did that one red wall after I painted it white and it took 1 gallon to do that one red wall two coats I got the same color and the Glidden premier eggshell and I did a wall the same size and three other walls have that size all two coats and it looked pretty much the same a little say different because I got it at a different time you can’t even tell unless you know what you’re looking for
How did you like the Dynasty??!!??
I have found that there is no one coat paint for my rental houses in Richmond. Nice video!
Hey Vincent,
Sadly - at least more often than not, I think you are right!!
Thanks for watching!
Painters rule two coats
New to painting (usually just call in one of my subs...) When "touching up" roller work, promptly and with exact same (remaining) paint, is it normally unnoticeable if the touch up is done only locally, or is it generally necessary to repaint an entire surface to end up with a seamless result? Thanks.
Hey Michael,
In my experience it is generally a seamless look. I will say that is depending on light streaming in from a window. It’s possible that you might be able to see a difference when viewed at a sharp angle.
But I’d go ahead and give the touch up a try first. I’d say that more often then not you’ll be fine.
BTW - use a 3/8 nap roller. Once we accidentally used a1/2 inch roller and it was WAY too much paint on the wall.
@@Housebarons Thx. Will do. BTW, as a pro finish carpenter for nearly 50 years, I find the info on your channel a cut above most on YT: unusually technically valid, as well as clearly and concisely presented. I use your vids as tutorials for my apprentice, and when it comes to tasks outside my specialized wheelhouse, I learn from them as well. Thank you!
Hey Michael,
Wow! Really appreciate that! You are very kind. We do appreciate the encouragement!
I was a long time Marquee user due to one coat claim but I just tried Sherwin Williams Cashmere Low Luster and Duration Matte for two different projects and honestly the final finish of either of those is just nicer. A little more work and a little more paint but the finish is so smooth.
Hey TAPS,
Thx for the input and thx for watching.
If your going to run two coats anyway , Then might as well go with the cheaper paint 😁🤑
thanks for video - I've debated this a homebuilder for years... what about behr regular? not marquee... we used regular behr ceiling paint on a house once and I can't buy it again. It was like painting on water, no coverage whatsoever.
Hey Jeff,
We stick with the marquee. But makes sense, the lower the price, the thinner it gets.
Thx for watching!
Bro you literally applied a 30$ gallon from SW and the premium of Behr of how much? Compare emerald Sw and Marque Behr??? lol
He compared similar price gallons. Why compare $30 a can to an $80 a can!
PS I have always used Behr. Painted quite a few houses in and out. Last house I had to do 2 coats to go over ugly dark gold. But it looks great, bright and white. I would rather paint more often for a cleaner look.
I didn't see how much paint was put on the sherwin williams roller and the area appears to be wider spread.
Hey Mike,
I tried to be as fair as possible. No agenda. Just passing on experience.
Thx for watching!
Trying to decide on which Behr paint to use on exterior (Hardi siding). Consumer Reports rated Marquee best for interior , but poor for exterior. Behr Premium Plus Ultra was rated best for exterior.
Anyone used this? Appreciate any feedback.
I’ve done exteriors for years and Behr ultra is my go to. great paint for exteriors.
Former HD paint dept supervisor here. If you read the Marquee can they only guaranty one coat coverage with Marquee tints. 90%+ of the other colors will also as long as the color being covered over is not too white or too black. It really is the best paint out there.
Thx for the pro input!!
I'm not a pro, but have done plenty of painting over the last 30 years. I can recommend Behr, it's a good paint at a good price point. I have always used Behr Ultra, never felt the need to spend more on the Marquee as the ultra had worked great. For trim I like the Behr 3900 over the ultra as it works more like BM advance which is also a good paint that I have used with HVLP on cabinets many times. SW middle of the road was okay, but I just prefer Behr. Paint has personality, you get used to the characteristics of certain brands and then gravitate towards them. I have had success with SW duration, BM regal and Behr Ultra, never felt a reason to spend more on the more luxury lines from any of them. Your milage may vary, but that's what's worked for me.
Hey tccoggs,
Thx for the input! And thx for watching!
Marquee is Behrs top premium paint so you should compare to SW top paint which is Emerald. The price is significantly higher but so is the quality. I buy my SW paint when its on sale. Still more expensive by $13 but the coverage is far superior as is the spread. FYI you can buy paint on sale then bring it in later to shake/tint it if your need and the sale don't line up.
Not anyone! Now it is Dynasty for interior.
@Kelly Cassidy I’m currently using SW emerald and I have to say it lays down with excellent coverage and after drying looks fantastic.
I dont know i ordered like 10 samples of grey shades from Behr and every single one of them had noticeable blue in them under any light. I ended up buying Limousine leather black and mixed with with some white to get a decent black undertone grey. But at least Behr sells and ships samples in my area... SW doesn't.
Same here, we're testing samples for our house and all the grays have a blue tint to them, it's been driving me crazy. I just want a light pure gray.
I always go to the store and look where it says what undertones the grays have. Usually its either blue, green, or the beige undertones. I was able to find the perfect gray by going directly to the Home Depot store and looking to see what undertones each paint has.
I’m actually painting the upstairs of my house right now
Hey Sam,
Hope it goes well!
Thx for watching!
Hey Dave, just FYI, Marquee will only guarantee one coat if the color you chose is considered one coat.
In other words, from all possible whites for instance, only 2-3 are one coat guaranteed - so make sure you choose the right one, otherwise you're overpaying and getting frustrated.
I had to find it the hard way, and got this information directly from Behr representative.
Regarding Behr customer service: even though I got incorrect information from Home Depot representative, Behr refunded me.
Hey Roman,
Thanks for the info!
And Thx for watching!
I tried Sherman Williams after using Behr before on my house. After one wall I stopped and went to get Behr again.
I hear ya on that!
Do you have to use a primer before using those two paints
Hey 10,
Only if you have bare drywall.
Thx for watching!
Havnt seen the video yet but the CPVC ratio on Behr is much higher than most paints.
Let’s watch and find out which one you chose.
You are aware that Bear Marquee “white” is not included in the one coat coverage claim. And that information is on ever can of Marquee. You might want to redo the test with a Marquee color that is approved.
I have painted way more walls than I have wanted to but lucky to have used countless brands on these walls. The showcase paint is not bad at all, is it an Emerald equivalent no but a good alternative at lower price point. I am not a fan of Marque at all but even though I read several bad mouth Behr (probably because HD sells it) I think the premium plus is an excellent paint. No need to spend more for Marque I have found ultra or premium plus (I mostly use Ultra) to be easier to apply and has held up very well on every wall I used it on. I don’t care what anyone says but I will never apply one coat to a wall, always needs two plus let’s be honest second coat flies on.
Thx for your extensive input!
Are you supposed to use primer before you paint your main color?
Hey Chad,
A lot of paints today are “ paint and primer “ in one.
When painting already painted walls, I will generally not prime separately . If it has primer already in the new paint, that’s fine.
On semi-gloss or gloss trim, I WILL prime to make sure the new semi-gloss will adhere to the trim because glossy paints don’t like to be repainted- new paint does stick on it well.
Thx for watching!
All of these companies have made their paints thin so you have to keep coming back for more especially ALL white paint Nothing covers in one heavy coat
Hey Randy,
Seems like everyone is cutting quality and raising prices these days!
Thx for watching!
I had a terrible experience I painted a kitchen the walls were semi-gloss light yellow and I went over the walls with semi-gloss ultra white behr paint it came out horrible streaky and did not cover even after three coats what do I do?
Im hear as I am so disappointed in the SW paint I used yesterday.
Shocked at how shaety Sherwin Williams is right now. Glidden Premier is THICK and can easily be watered down with opaque coverage. Sherman Williams is translucent and can see the tinted primer right through it. Just but taking a stir stick and dipping the paint and letting it drip back in the can, you can see the viscosity build up on the Glidden, but SWilliams just levels out like watery liquid. Also, this was for ceiling flat, and it has a SHEEN!! Their production line is horrible. What in the world happened? So now I got a gallon of Glidden and Behr. Behr is a bit whiter, very slight. So far I think paint is manufactured at less factories than we may think...Does Valspar, who bought Sherwin Williams, or Behr, and Glidden or other brands use different factories?
Also, is latex preferred over acrylic?
Hey Phil,
We had a similar experience. Not sure where paints are made but you make an interesting point.! We typically use a water based latex as it makes clean-up easier.
Thx for watching!
What do you expect getting paint at the box store? To get actual Sherwin Wiliams paint you have to go to their store.
Not a fair comparison since the HGTV SHOWCASE paint is actually Valspar paint purchased from Lowe's. Sherwin Williams bought out Valspar. Get some paint from an actual Sherwin Williams store and try it again.
Check out our playlist - we did indeed a more “fair” test later….
Thx for the input.
Nothing beats Sherwin-Williams super paint. The pro painters at my house swear by it and all the painters I've met always use it. The HGTV Sherwin-Williams is definitely not the same grade
Sherwin Williams bought out Valspar and the paint they sell under the SW hgtv showcase label is actually Valspar from what I understand.
What behr marquee color is that ???
Hey Julito,
The grey color we could not find a match to it...we used the entire Sherwin Williams paint deck and couldn’t find a match so that I could just touch it up.
The white that we used over it was Spare White.
Thx for watching!
It maybe that the Home Depotr and Lowes paints are inferior to what you get at the direct store of the paint brand, like Dun Edwards? But, I think all these paints have recently gotten thinner formulas. I am comparing then to a 5gallon bucket I got a couple months ago and it is much thicker paint.
I bought sw at their store last week and struggled through 3 coats that still barely covered an already primed wall. Got really mad at the ridiculous amount I had paid for said paint, then went to Home depot and bought behr and barely needed 2 coats for the same scenario/same room, but different wall. Since I have a whole house to do, I'm going Behr all the way!
@@itsjustmeVeraVera I did the same thing. I know there is no real 1 coat paint unless you really follow the 3ft square rule of a loaded roller to cover just that small of a area, but I tend to start with 3x3ft but move out, so it need about 2 coats. I got the Glidden and the Behr, and they BOTH do well. Got the Marquee of Behr and the "better" level Glidden. Both about the same and good paints.
i prefer behr.. but your test is application separation.. not paint quaility..
Sherwin williams makes the HGTV branded paint and Valspar for Lowes, I hated the Valspar, thick as snot and would'nt clean out of my brush!!
Hey Bryan,
Thx for the input and for watching!
If it's made for 1 coat, it should look great with 2 just like you should ALWAYS do.
Wow didn’t realize how heated people got over brands of paint - lol! We’ve remodeled multiple homes, have always used Behr, and have never been disappointed. I’m going to give Sherwin-Williams a try this time though and see how it goes.
Well, what’s the verdict?
First paint a wall with the test roller then paint your sample. So you know your roller is full!
Try Valspar Signature
Hey Reel,
Thx for the input and for watching!
I have repainted a house with behr and SW, to 1-1.25 voats for behr. Took 3+ gor SW. Never again
Hey Jason,
Thx for the input!
What sherwin did you get?
I rarely thumbs up TH-cam videos. I like the bias disclaimer and the "paid by the hour" joke.
Please be warned: Wife and I have years of experience painting and have liked SW in years past but they have clearly cheapened the recipe. It's thinner and doesn't cover well at all. It was a complete waste of money. We deeply regret starting a large project with this garbage paint. We will never buy SW again. This paint is the equivalent of a dollar store guitar. By the way, they also reduced the amount in the can from 128 oz (1 gal) to 124 oz, but still charge $55 per can.
Hey Jay,
Thx for the input! And thx for watching!
Behr is the winner!
PPG TIMELESS is the best of all
Hey polofunk,
Thanks for the suggestion. We will have to give that a try! Thx for watching!
Seriously that’s the worst paint I have ever used. So tacky so smelly
Get a extension pole my guy lol
I hope you sand that wall before your final paint. Lol
Be careful in your comparisons because just like car companies, paint companies have cheaper and lower quality lines versus their more expensive higher quality lines. Therefore, this test needs a better control.
Hey diddy,
True. The point of the video was to simply say that our general experience with Sherwin was less than that of Behr.
We did a more “fair” test later…
th-cam.com/video/sPPDGCQkmXY/w-d-xo.html
… but we found out that in the end- people like “their” brand regardless.
Nonetheless it was an interesting discussion.
Thx for the comment.
I just get the cheapest 5 gallon paint! I am a painting contractor however!
Dont you struggle and spend more time? Im a contractor myself and charge the client the paint and get good discounts on paint. Screw using cheap paint costing me time.. no?
So you rip off clients? Cool.
Behr paint sucks….I’ve bought the low grade then the middle grade and they both cover terrible… The first time we painted light gray over white (both flat paint) and it covered terrible (light gray should cover white in one coat) Home Depot Behr paint and primer doesn’t cover well at all. So next time I bought the middle grade and got the same results! Come on Home Depot your paint quality is not that good!
I agree Behr is superior to Sherwin Williams. Valspar is also better than Sherwin Williams
Hey Maui…,
Much agreed. Thx for watching.
The texture of the Behr paint is awful. Yes it covers better but it leaves terrible roller marks. That's the problem with their paint, it looks cheap when its done.
Hey Cameron,
Thx for the input. Thx for watching.
Try using a better roller. Best paint ever made. You use a crappy roller you get crappy result.
Professional painters run a flame all over the paint rollers quickly to get rid of those little hairs that are to long
Doesn't matter what roller you use Behr destroys houses , the product runs and sags , dries unevenly and the finish looks like a cheap plastic Chinese toy.
Painter of 23 years.
@@juancamaney3562 No they don't lol. I've been painting for 23 years . I've been around atleast 50 painters in my life and have never even heard of that lol. We roll tape around a roller then peel it off , or you simply wash the roller first in water. Also a good roller doesn't really shed.
People should just get it out of their head "1-Coat Coverage!" It's a marketing gimmick. Sure you could maybe get 1-coat coverage if you sprayed it. But as a retired professional painter, if you want a good paint job, no matter what paint you're using, you need 2 coats, unless your repainting with the same or similar color. Moreover, with 2 coats you have twice the thickness of paint on the wall to endure scratches, scrapes, scrubbing and cleaning.
Good point. But maybe advertising should be held to a more truthful standard as well… Sad commentary on what is allowed.
You using the same brush with these two paints completely make this comparison useless.
That didn’t happen. He used two brushes and two rollers.
Behr is garbage , the product Runs and Sags . After painting a room you have to constantly check to brush out runs and roll out sagging paint . Also the finish looks like cheap plastic.
Been painting for 23 years , I've fixed close to a dozen rooms over the years that were covered in runs and sags from homeowners using Behr paint.
Spend the extra $10-$15 and just buy Benjamin Moore Regal Select . Sherwin Williams is also decent but not as good . Sherwin Williams is just more convenient due to having stores everywhere.
Sounds like your over applying painter boy. You can’t be that good if your having sags. Amateur. Stop using it then.
@@BobBob-vt5ec amateur lol , I've been a professional painter for 23 years and have run a successful business for 15 years . I know how to apply a coat of paint . I've used BEHR , it's water paint . I lay on a " coat of paint " in the same manner that I apply Benjamin Moore Regal or Aura , neither of which run and sag .
I'd run circles around you with a brush .
@@manchesterexplorer8519 Pretty much you have NO idea what your talking about. You said been painting 23 years, but only claim 15? Huh your one of those culture haters and should be silenced, trying to be a utube star. My friend you are a dolt and not a single person on this earth cares what you think about. Hopefully you are getting paid by someone to do this because you have no idea about painting.
@@BobBob-vt5ec Im an Amateur Painter and my skills went from Ok with Sherwin Williams to Crap with Behr Paint👎👎👎👎👎👎Never again in my lifetime will I buy that water dripping Diarrhea
@@surgej007 Now your an amateur painter? Thought you were a professional? I have no ties to anything,but if you do your homework Behr has been Ranked #1by consumer reports for the last 15 years. Maybe you should learn how to work with a premium quality paint instead of the garbage you are over charging your customers for. Your a con artist! I can teach you!
The time and energy it took you to go and grab another brand of paint, you would have been done with a 2nd coat of cut and roll. 😂
And yet that wasn’t the point of the video. Excellent logic.
My best friend says BEHR is toilet water
Hey Ca…,
Lol! Thx for watching!
Behr paint is not reliable ( trash ) regardless of covering 1 or 2 coats mister don't be naive
Just buy Sherwin Williams or Benjamin Moore the rest of them SUCK!!
Your riling skill is horrible sorry