This is definitely a bit of a longer video, but I wanted to give as much detail and behind the scenes as I could. I tried to answer as many questions as I could in the video and in the description to help you get started with a video podcast with virtual hosts and guests. As always, feel free to hit me up here.
Yeah, this is the shock mount that's really hard to find now. I love this thing, but it may be an eBay or Alibaba kind of situation. I've randomly seen it on both places.
I don’t quite understand. My Zoom dynamic Microphone only has XLR. How did you connect the mic to BOTH the Zoom H6 recorder via XLR AND USB to the computer??? Is there a dual cable that has BOTH XLR and USB options???
Is this all really necessary? I have an iPad but not a laptop. I have a dynamic mic but was gonna just record to garage band and record with my Sony camera but I’m so lost on what I can do with what I have.
Great video - curious why you changed the sequence (from your previous video) of having audio coming from Mac computer headphone jack in zoom h6 instead of using the atr 2100 headphone jack going into zoom h6 ?
Yeah, I put that in the answer above. The ATR manufacturing changed a bit and not everyone was receiving a microphone that had the exact same capability as my old one. It's actually a pinned comment at the top of that video with this workaround. I should probably update that video as well. Appreciate your time my friend.
@@KevinRossRN curious as to what would you use the usb interface on the zoom h6 for? I know the use of transferring data from the h6 to computer using usb…tnx
So the USB interface on the H6 would be used if you want to connect it to your computer and then record directly into your DAW (editor). It acts similar to an audio interface, but with the obvious difference being that you can use the H6 as a stand alone and it doesn't require a computer. However if I want to use my shotgun mic that requires phantom power for my Zoom calls...not for a podcast, but just for meetings, then I plug in my H6 to the computer and use it as an interface so that I can have better audio for the call, with a heck of a lot more control too.
Is it possible for me and my host that we both use only usb microphones, to record and hear ourselves and one another? We dont have xlr option, for now at least...
And I would definitely recommend not adding video until you’re ready to take on more work 😀 So, you’ll be fine. Record locally on each end and then when you’re done one of you will send your recording to the other to add to the editing workflow.
@@KevinRossRN not all the laptops have the mic output. Only usb. What to do in this case? BTW, wanted to ask you if hearing yourself in the headphones makes more difficult to speak to the guest?
You could get a USB adapter that has both mic input and output. They’re fairly inexpensive. And as far as monitoring your own audio in the headphones, in my opinion it’s just something you get used to and very helpful so that you know you’re not clipping.
If I’m not mistaken you should be able to run that remote guest track into the second input while still maintaining that first track for yourself. I believe there’s a setting in the H4N where you set it to multitrack.
Loved the video! I’m still learning so much haha now that I’ve gotten a good handle on my podcast, I’m trying to work towards what I want my TH-cam to become. I have tons of questions but I will keep it to one question today. I have a TH-cam channel that does reactions but I don’t know how to properly import an official video (that I’m reacting to) into my video. I’ve always wondered how other TH-camrs have an official video within their video so viewers can see it instead of me just playing the audio in the background.
Thanks! Do you mean having picture in picture, like in this video where I have the editor as the main part of the screen and myself in a smaller section? So basically, like the video you're reacting to as the main and having yourself in the corner somewhere on the screen?
So then you have more than enough capability. Are you just not familiar with Premiere? I'm not a premiere editor, but there's definitely tutorials on this. You would take both videos out of the bin and drag them onto the timeline...they'll be on top of each other. Make sure the "bigger" video you want is on the bottom. So to reiterate the top video is the one you're adjusting, so highlight (click on) this in your timeline. Then go to effects > motion > scale Then you're going to adjust the scale based on what size you want the video you're reacting to. Let me know if that worked.
Hey man, is it possible to do this set up with a SHURE SM7B? I have a Zoom H6 and record my podcasts using Zoom (software) - also thinking of using ZenCastr as well
Instead of plugging the atr 2100 mic directly into usb of computer- would it be better to plug the zoom h6 into computer and leave atr 2100 only plugged into zoom h6 track 1?
So when you plug the handheld into the computer it then becomes either an SD card reader, or an audio interface. When it's an audio interface then you would record directly into your editor. So, yes, possible...but you'd lose the ability to record on the SD card.
If you want to connect your iphone (as your camera)via a hard wire (to reduce lag), are you recommending the lightning to USB camera adapter? If so, then do you need another usbA cable to connect to your computer? TIA
Yes, you'd need that camera adapter...However, I have seen where others have connected via the lightning adapter out from the iPhone via a USB-A or USB-C connection into the computer, but I personally have the USB camera adapter. You also want to make sure you have a USB data cable...not a charging a cable. However, with more experimentation I am noticing (still) some latency with Zoom. I've others also report that they're trying to edit their Zoom call's audio and sync it up with the other person's local recording and they're definitely have to spend quite a bit of time syncing it up. Not sure of your particular setup in that do you want to have a better webcam experience and that's all you need, or are you wanting to record this and upload it with your audio as a video podcast?
@@KevinRossRN I want to be able to put my current podcast (which is myself and a guest ) in video format for either youtube of Facebook etc. I am ok with the audio portion, just want to add a decent video to it.
Gotcha...would you just screen record your guest in the Zoom app? Just curious if you may want to try to record yourself locally on your end, use your built-in webcam (if you have one) and then take your recorded iPhone video and then splice it in with the guest's video...this of course may be more steps than you need or want. Just trying to offer up options in case you hit a snag.
Hi Kevin, my zoom h-8 is giving severe static to my headphones when I connect my mic from XLR to zoom recorder and USB to my computer at the same time. Have you had this problem before?
Likely some EMI. I assume you’re using the cable that came with Zoom? And does that cable have a ferrite core on it? Also, is there a cellphone near you?
I would try to move the cellphone away or put it in airplane mode. Also, it sounds like you might have a little interference from the computer, and sometimes a cable with the ferrite core can help eliminate this.
Hey Kevin, do you ever use Luma Fusion for video podcasting? I’m trying to decide if that would be a good program to use or not. Do you have any videos where you use Luma Fusion?
LumaFusion is pretty easy to use. I don’t have a full walkthrough, but it’s a very capable. It’s actually the best iPad/iPhone video editing software in my opinion.
Good video man just seems super time consuming ive found this combo to work best Computer,obs software, web cam or a camera w. Capture card, rodecaster way easier and faster in my opinion, keep up the good work!
Thanks! And yes, the rodecaster is a little beast. When I start live-streaming I’ll be taking a look at that piece of gear. I’ve always tried to invest in pieces I could use more than one way in my workflow, but that may be changing soon to where I can drop the rodecaster into multiple scenarios. Appreciate you hanging. 🤙👊
So Zencastr should now have a beta version of video, but I honestly haven't tested that feature. This is where it can get a little tricky because you'd want your mic input to run through the program you're trying to record into or to get tracks from...in this case, it would be Zencastr. So, you'd actually choose your mic for that setup. For Zoom you could toggle down the built-in mic just to have that feature for your host or guest, but the audio would likely be unusable, but that shouldn't be an issue since you'd use the Zencastr track. I have had folks use their phones as a secondary option to just run the Zoom call, while the computer was handling the audio portions of the podcast. OBS is certainly an option to take for a spin, and I'm also putting something together for a program called cleanfeed that allows you to collect that clean audio on the virtual side of things. Have you checked that out yet?
@@KevinRossRN If Zencastr is recording the audio, how would the guest hear us on Zoom? Yeah I looked into Cleanfeed, but had trouble with the above. I can't use the same input for both (cleanfeed AND zoom) unless I'm doing something wrong. I also am not using the handheld or any audio hardware, which might be what I need to use in order to set the audio input in both places at once. We record the zoom video and pull the guest video and audio from there, but then have my iPhone set up to record better quality video of us and sync that all up. I'm also recording our audio then synching that up, not using our Zoom audio, which I'm ordering an iPhone adapter as we speak to record directly to my iPhone. It's a lot of work! That's how I ended up on your video in order to simplify! :'D
Ha! Yeah, when you add video, the workload just becomes exponentially challenging, especially without hardware. So, if you're using an actual mic for Zencastr then you should be able to toggle that on as your mic to record on, and then use the built-in mic for Zoom...But to clarify, are you on a computer or iPhone exclusively, or using both? I do have a video coming up (I hope soon) where I'm using an audio interface connected to an iPad so that anyone can split out the local tracks. I'm then going to feature a section of that video using the same audio interface on a computer (a Mac, but Windows would work too) where you'd split out the local tracks if you need to, and then also get that clean audio from your host/guest...but yeah, it involves some hardware.
@@KevinRossRN I thought that once I plug in my microphone to the computer that automatically becomes the only microphone source. I think when I put Zoom as built-in mic at that point, the guest no longer hears us unless I set the audio input to the connected mic, but I could be wrong and should test that. We Zoom via computer, so I have the mic plugged in through USB and record into Premiere or Garageband, and talk into Zoom with that same input. The iPhone is only recording video on our end, which is why I'm hoping to use an adapter to have the mics record directly into the iPhone, then I guess the Zoom would be the built-in mic and hopefully problem solved? Also still need to figure out how to have two USBs go into the iPhone adapter so that the recorded video uses our microphone audio. :'D
One question I had... Do you bring the audio file back out of the audio editor into your video editor? I’ve edited podcasts before, and I usually strip silence and take out “Ums”. But seems like I’d have to do that within the video editor so the video stays in sync w/ the audio, rather than in my usual audio editor. Is this correct?
But you also have to consider your guest. Some guests might not be as tech savvy and they might not know how to use software like OBS. That's where Zencastr comes in. It makes it as painless as possible to get a quality audio track from your guests without them having to be bothered with technical stuff.
Well, if you're both using Zencastr (you and the remote guest/host), then you could eliminate the handheld. I keep the Handheld in my workflow because hardware rarely fails, and I get a much better sounding local recording because I can manage the gain and built in compressors/limiters, and I get a cleaner connection via XLR...Not to mention the ability to record the guest as a back up track. BUT! that being said. I definitely recommend starting simple, stay within your budget and actually see if you want to podcast, that it's a sustainable endeavor for you, and once those are achieved, then see if you want to take on video. So the summary here would be to dial in your mics first, good audio is everything, try out Zencastr, and then work your way up from there.
@UC-e5yg%F0%9F%98%85%F0%9F%98%85%F0%9F%98%85Dp1N9pxowjlev8hRA Seriously your video is the most thorough and easy to understand for a tech illiterate person like me! My ideal set up would be what these girls on "IMomSoHard" are doing for their podcast except I don't know if they are using a program like Skype or Zoom, a filming camera of some sort, a handheld or Rodecaster type recorder, and what system they use for editing everything all together but this would be my ideal set up situation. What does it look like to you? th-cam.com/video/jN6DiTSZY5A/w-d-xo.html
So from what I can glean from this video, it looks like they're using one of the mics I've recommended, so that's a start. It looks as if they're also using the dual functionality of these mics, so an XLR (balanced) connection into an interface or handheld recorder and likely just getting that very "clean" audio on each side and then sending it to each other for editing. The USB connection I see coming out of the microphone is likely going into their laptops via Zoom (I'm guessing) so that they can talk to each other and hear each other. Their cameras are definitely setup off to the side and they're not using the Zoom or Skype video at all. I'm guessing they have cameras other than their phones, but you could put your phone on airplane mode and record with that off to the side. They then have a multi-camera editing workflow in their post production. So basically, as one of them talks then you see it on camera. This is either a built-in function of something like Final Cut Pro (video editing software for MacOS), or someone is literally editing this multi-cam manually in post. They have an awesome setup though.
@@KevinRossRN Yes I agree. The only thing is how are they seeing each other? Cuz they're in diff houses and you can tell they're looking at a feed of some sort where they can see one another so that's where I thought they might be also utilizing a zoom call or Skype. Seems like a lot of moving parts😅 So what I'm guessing is that they have these cameras set up to record the visual video off to the side, then set up the mics to record through a handheld (but how can the handheld do a remote guest call so maybe a Rodecaster Pro?) then they utilize a Skype or Zoom call to view each other in realtime then they have someone take the video and audio and create some fancy edited video. Does that sound about right?
So as far as seeing each other, yes, they're likely doing this through Zoom and just using their webcams on their laptops to see each other. They likely don't care about the quality on their webcam footage, because I mean, you could look terrible, but as long as you can see each other to play off of that energy then that's fine. I did a video on doing a remote setup with the very gear they're likely using: th-cam.com/video/02rJZ-iwxkI/w-d-xo.html But, I'm pretty sure that they're just both recording locally to get a clean feed on each side. A Rodecaster Pro is nice and it does quite a bit, but you can get two handhelds for the price of the Rodecaster. I would say that there podcast takes about 4-5 hours to edit each episode. I could be wrong, but that's my guess because of bringing in the audio track (already edited), then laying in each camera angle, and syncing those up. Then, cutting the pieces they don't want, mishaps, pauses, etc., putting a color grade over the footage, render and then upload. They may have streamlined a workflow that may cut down on some of this post production.
@@KevinRossRN I’m plugging into the computer directly via USB and then plugging the mic’s XLR into the Zoom H6. I also have a mono cable running from the Zoom H6 to the Macbook’s 3.5 out. I’m monitoring audio with headphones, which are plugged into the Zoom H6.
Quick question if anyone can help me out! I just recorded a video podcast a few days ago and my files were huge. Every 30 min of recording leaves me with 10gb. Is this normal? A full 2 hour podcast ended up being 15gb. Any advice you can give me would truly help. What are your file sizes like?
Then that's definitely normal. As an example, filming on the a6400 at 4K 24fps, a 30(ish) minute podcast recording was 37GB. It adds up my friend. One of (many) obstacles when it comes to doing a video podcast. I have terabytes of footage on a server. Once you render the footage in your editor, you could certainly purge the raw video.
Hey Kevin! I'm curious how do you get around the record limit on cameras? My podcast usually goes for almost 2 hours and my digital camera can only do a continuous 30 mins and then it stops.
Which camera do you have? Mine doesn’t have a limit, but just curious to see which one you have to see if you’d have an option to just connect it to your computer.
That’s a great camera to set up as a webcam. This can be connected directly to your computer via USB (Windows may need a driver), and what I’d do is then use OBS studio to record that footage. I literally just did that yesterday and today with my a6400 for a video review I’m doing.
Kevin on #10 you say atr 2100 is both source for in and out - wouldn’t the computer be the source out since the headphone jack is coming from computer into zoom h6(not from atr2100)?
Yes, good catch. This was an old workflow I used way back. However, folks were starting to have trouble with this because the newly manufactured ATR's had a slight difference with the headphone out capability. In my previous video I mentioned that the ATR headphone volume button could be turned all the way down and that you could run your co-hosts track out of it and into the Zoom and not get any audio bleed from track 1 into track 2, but this apparently changed with newer models. Appreciate the catch here. I updated it. I spent like 20+ hours making/editing this video and I think I just couldn't see or think straight at that point. 😀
Kevin this is what I needed to see to understand the process and get started.
Alright then. Glad to help. Now go rock some faces. 🎸🔥
Thanks!
Appreciate you!
Trying this for the first time today. GREAT description and I already had all the necessary equipment. Thanks!
That’s great! Sending my best.
This was so detailed man. Excellent job !
Thanks! Glad to have you here.
This is definitely a bit of a longer video, but I wanted to give as much detail and behind the scenes as I could. I tried to answer as many questions as I could in the video and in the description to help you get started with a video podcast with virtual hosts and guests. As always, feel free to hit me up here.
thanks Kevin…can you tell me the pop filter you used in this video looks like a metal funnel type? tnx
You mean the shock mount that I've had in other videos? This one? amzn.to/2AayLij Well, the one that isn't exactly like the one I use.
@@KevinRossRN the one you use on this video th-cam.com/video/hOTVyJfeXGs/w-d-xo.html looks gold and has funnel? tnx
Yeah, this is the shock mount that's really hard to find now. I love this thing, but it may be an eBay or Alibaba kind of situation. I've randomly seen it on both places.
Do you have a shure mic? Is it possible to do all this still with a Shure Mic?
Awesome video. Very helpful 👏🏾
Great to hear. Thank you
I don’t quite understand. My Zoom dynamic Microphone only has XLR. How did you connect the mic to BOTH the Zoom H6 recorder via XLR AND USB to the computer??? Is there a dual cable that has BOTH XLR and USB options???
This particular mic I’m using has both connections, which is one of the main benefits and why I recommend it so often.
@@KevinRossRN Thank you for the clarification, sir!🤙🏽🙏🏽
Indeed. 👍 Thank you.
Is this all really necessary? I have an iPad but not a laptop. I have a dynamic mic but was gonna just record to garage band and record with my Sony camera but I’m so lost on what I can do with what I have.
You can use your iPad without an audio interface if it’s just you. You can certainly do a lot with what you have.
Great video - curious why you changed the sequence (from your previous video) of having audio coming from Mac computer headphone jack in zoom h6 instead of using the atr 2100 headphone jack going into zoom h6 ?
Yeah, I put that in the answer above. The ATR manufacturing changed a bit and not everyone was receiving a microphone that had the exact same capability as my old one. It's actually a pinned comment at the top of that video with this workaround. I should probably update that video as well. Appreciate your time my friend.
@@KevinRossRN curious as to what would you use the usb interface on the zoom h6 for? I know the use of transferring data from the h6 to computer using usb…tnx
So the USB interface on the H6 would be used if you want to connect it to your computer and then record directly into your DAW (editor). It acts similar to an audio interface, but with the obvious difference being that you can use the H6 as a stand alone and it doesn't require a computer.
However if I want to use my shotgun mic that requires phantom power for my Zoom calls...not for a podcast, but just for meetings, then I plug in my H6 to the computer and use it as an interface so that I can have better audio for the call, with a heck of a lot more control too.
@@KevinRossRN thanks Kevin. On Audio levels in Garage band…where do you try to keep it at…what db? tnx
Try to keep the baseline (give or take) -6. This way it gives me a little head room against my voice goes up a bit.
Is it possible for me and my host that we both use only usb microphones, to record and hear ourselves and one another? We dont have xlr option, for now at least...
What computer are you connecting it to? Windows or MacOS?
@@KevinRossRN We both use windows, and thanks for the insta reply!!! :)
Sure. But to clarify further, are you recording locally and using two computers in the same room? Or are you in two different places?
@@KevinRossRN We are in different places, but we dont want to record video , just the audio.
And I would definitely recommend not adding video until you’re ready to take on more work 😀
So, you’ll be fine. Record locally on each end and then when you’re done one of you will send your recording to the other to add to the editing workflow.
Is this setup possible with Zoom H4?
Do you currently have the H4?
@@KevinRossRN yes, h4n
Yeah, so I believe that has a stereo input that can be split into two mono tracks, which is what you’d want anyway.
@@KevinRossRN not all the laptops have the mic output. Only usb. What to do in this case? BTW, wanted to ask you if hearing yourself in the headphones makes more difficult to speak to the guest?
You could get a USB adapter that has both mic input and output. They’re fairly inexpensive. And as far as monitoring your own audio in the headphones, in my opinion it’s just something you get used to and very helpful so that you know you’re not clipping.
What settings should I use for Zoom to run through my rodecaster pro 2 ?
So what’s your particular setup and workflow? Specifically the setup for your guest/remote host?
@@KevinRossRN i want to run my zoo
Audio through rodecaster pro 2
This is such a great and detailed video! Would a Zoom H4n work as well?
Thanks! Do you already own the H4N?
@@KevinRossRN Yes I do, so I'd love to know. Thank you.
If I’m not mistaken you should be able to run that remote guest track into the second input while still maintaining that first track for yourself. I believe there’s a setting in the H4N where you set it to multitrack.
@@KevinRossRN That's perfect, yes it does have those. Thank you!
You bet. And there’s also software based solutions that are coming out all the time. Clean feed is one, and Riverside FM.
Loved the video! I’m still learning so much haha now that I’ve gotten a good handle on my podcast, I’m trying to work towards what I want my TH-cam to become. I have tons of questions but I will keep it to one question today. I have a TH-cam channel that does reactions but I don’t know how to properly import an official video (that I’m reacting to) into my video. I’ve always wondered how other TH-camrs have an official video within their video so viewers can see it instead of me just playing the audio in the background.
Thanks! Do you mean having picture in picture, like in this video where I have the editor as the main part of the screen and myself in a smaller section? So basically, like the video you're reacting to as the main and having yourself in the corner somewhere on the screen?
Kevin Ross yes but the opposite! I would like myself as the main and the video I’m reacting to in the corner or something.
What video editor are you using?
Kevin Ross I am using adobe premiere.
So then you have more than enough capability. Are you just not familiar with Premiere? I'm not a premiere editor, but there's definitely tutorials on this.
You would take both videos out of the bin and drag them onto the timeline...they'll be on top of each other. Make sure the "bigger" video you want is on the bottom. So to reiterate the top video is the one you're adjusting, so highlight (click on) this in your timeline. Then go to effects > motion > scale
Then you're going to adjust the scale based on what size you want the video you're reacting to.
Let me know if that worked.
Hey man, is it possible to do this set up with a SHURE SM7B? I have a Zoom H6 and record my podcasts using Zoom (software) - also thinking of using ZenCastr as well
If you’re using Zencastr then that would make that setup easier to capture that audio on the other side. It’s a pretty decent solution in my opinion.
Instead of plugging the atr 2100 mic directly into usb of computer- would it be better to plug the zoom h6 into computer and leave atr 2100 only plugged into zoom h6 track 1?
So when you plug the handheld into the computer it then becomes either an SD card reader, or an audio interface. When it's an audio interface then you would record directly into your editor. So, yes, possible...but you'd lose the ability to record on the SD card.
If you want to connect your iphone (as your camera)via a hard wire (to reduce lag), are you recommending the lightning to USB camera adapter? If so, then do you need another usbA cable to connect to your computer? TIA
Yes, you'd need that camera adapter...However, I have seen where others have connected via the lightning adapter out from the iPhone via a USB-A or USB-C connection into the computer, but I personally have the USB camera adapter. You also want to make sure you have a USB data cable...not a charging a cable. However, with more experimentation I am noticing (still) some latency with Zoom. I've others also report that they're trying to edit their Zoom call's audio and sync it up with the other person's local recording and they're definitely have to spend quite a bit of time syncing it up.
Not sure of your particular setup in that do you want to have a better webcam experience and that's all you need, or are you wanting to record this and upload it with your audio as a video podcast?
@@KevinRossRN I want to be able to put my current podcast (which is myself and a guest ) in video format for either youtube of Facebook etc. I am ok with the audio portion, just want to add a decent video to it.
Gotcha...would you just screen record your guest in the Zoom app? Just curious if you may want to try to record yourself locally on your end, use your built-in webcam (if you have one) and then take your recorded iPhone video and then splice it in with the guest's video...this of course may be more steps than you need or want. Just trying to offer up options in case you hit a snag.
@@KevinRossRN Hmm. I want to try to keep it as simple as possible.
@@KevinRossRN Also doesn't the lighting/camera adapter automatically open up the photo's app and isn't that annoying?
Hi Kevin, my zoom h-8 is giving severe static to my headphones when I connect my mic from XLR to zoom recorder and USB to my computer at the same time. Have you had this problem before?
Likely some EMI. I assume you’re using the cable that came with Zoom? And does that cable have a ferrite core on it?
Also, is there a cellphone near you?
@@KevinRossRN im using the cable thta came with the samson q2u, no ferrite core, and there is a cell phone near by.
I would try to move the cellphone away or put it in airplane mode. Also, it sounds like you might have a little interference from the computer, and sometimes a cable with the ferrite core can help eliminate this.
@@KevinRossRN thank you very much.
Sending my best in finding the source.
Hey Kevin, do you ever use Luma Fusion for video podcasting? I’m trying to decide if that would be a good program to use or not. Do you have any videos where you use Luma Fusion?
LumaFusion is pretty easy to use. I don’t have a full walkthrough, but it’s a very capable. It’s actually the best iPad/iPhone video editing software in my opinion.
Good video man just seems super time consuming ive found this combo to work best Computer,obs software, web cam or a camera w. Capture card, rodecaster way easier and faster in my opinion, keep up the good work!
Thanks! And yes, the rodecaster is a little beast. When I start live-streaming I’ll be taking a look at that piece of gear. I’ve always tried to invest in pieces I could use more than one way in my workflow, but that may be changing soon to where I can drop the rodecaster into multiple scenarios.
Appreciate you hanging. 🤙👊
Can you run zencaster and zoom at the same time? There won’t be issues with microphone input?
So Zencastr should now have a beta version of video, but I honestly haven't tested that feature. This is where it can get a little tricky because you'd want your mic input to run through the program you're trying to record into or to get tracks from...in this case, it would be Zencastr. So, you'd actually choose your mic for that setup.
For Zoom you could toggle down the built-in mic just to have that feature for your host or guest, but the audio would likely be unusable, but that shouldn't be an issue since you'd use the Zencastr track. I have had folks use their phones as a secondary option to just run the Zoom call, while the computer was handling the audio portions of the podcast.
OBS is certainly an option to take for a spin, and I'm also putting something together for a program called cleanfeed that allows you to collect that clean audio on the virtual side of things. Have you checked that out yet?
@@KevinRossRN If Zencastr is recording the audio, how would the guest hear us on Zoom? Yeah I looked into Cleanfeed, but had trouble with the above. I can't use the same input for both (cleanfeed AND zoom) unless I'm doing something wrong. I also am not using the handheld or any audio hardware, which might be what I need to use in order to set the audio input in both places at once. We record the zoom video and pull the guest video and audio from there, but then have my iPhone set up to record better quality video of us and sync that all up. I'm also recording our audio then synching that up, not using our Zoom audio, which I'm ordering an iPhone adapter as we speak to record directly to my iPhone. It's a lot of work! That's how I ended up on your video in order to simplify! :'D
Still Natasha. I replied from the podcast channel. Thanks for replying so quickly though. Appreciate it!
Ha! Yeah, when you add video, the workload just becomes exponentially challenging, especially without hardware.
So, if you're using an actual mic for Zencastr then you should be able to toggle that on as your mic to record on, and then use the built-in mic for Zoom...But to clarify, are you on a computer or iPhone exclusively, or using both?
I do have a video coming up (I hope soon) where I'm using an audio interface connected to an iPad so that anyone can split out the local tracks. I'm then going to feature a section of that video using the same audio interface on a computer (a Mac, but Windows would work too) where you'd split out the local tracks if you need to, and then also get that clean audio from your host/guest...but yeah, it involves some hardware.
@@KevinRossRN I thought that once I plug in my microphone to the computer that automatically becomes the only microphone source. I think when I put Zoom as built-in mic at that point, the guest no longer hears us unless I set the audio input to the connected mic, but I could be wrong and should test that. We Zoom via computer, so I have the mic plugged in through USB and record into Premiere or Garageband, and talk into Zoom with that same input. The iPhone is only recording video on our end, which is why I'm hoping to use an adapter to have the mics record directly into the iPhone, then I guess the Zoom would be the built-in mic and hopefully problem solved? Also still need to figure out how to have two USBs go into the iPhone adapter so that the recorded video uses our microphone audio. :'D
One question I had... Do you bring the audio file back out of the audio editor into your video editor? I’ve edited podcasts before, and I usually strip silence and take out “Ums”. But seems like I’d have to do that within the video editor so the video stays in sync w/ the audio, rather than in my usual audio editor. Is this correct?
I personally just keep the audio track in the video editor. There are plenty of options to edit the video in Final Cut Pro (what I use).
Great tips, thank you!
Why thank you! Happy to help.
would you say theres any benefit to Zen caster compared to using something free like OBS to record ?
Zencastr is more about a simple workflow that most can follow. I’d say if you’re familiar with OBS then I’d say use that.
I looked into OBS too. Does both video and audio right?
But you also have to consider your guest. Some guests might not be as tech savvy and they might not know how to use software like OBS. That's where Zencastr comes in. It makes it as painless as possible to get a quality audio track from your guests without them having to be bothered with technical stuff.
@@GlitzGlamTVProductions the guest doesnt need to know how to use obs.. its on the hosts pc only
@@ontherailmedia yes it does you can even have individual Inputs and outputs brought in as sources .. for each scene too
hi there why do you need the zoom handheld if you're using zencaster for you and your guest?
Well, if you're both using Zencastr (you and the remote guest/host), then you could eliminate the handheld. I keep the Handheld in my workflow because hardware rarely fails, and I get a much better sounding local recording because I can manage the gain and built in compressors/limiters, and I get a cleaner connection via XLR...Not to mention the ability to record the guest as a back up track.
BUT! that being said. I definitely recommend starting simple, stay within your budget and actually see if you want to podcast, that it's a sustainable endeavor for you, and once those are achieved, then see if you want to take on video.
So the summary here would be to dial in your mics first, good audio is everything, try out Zencastr, and then work your way up from there.
@UC-e5yg%F0%9F%98%85%F0%9F%98%85%F0%9F%98%85Dp1N9pxowjlev8hRA Seriously your video is the most thorough and easy to understand for a tech illiterate person like me! My ideal set up would be what these girls on "IMomSoHard" are doing for their podcast except I don't know if they are using a program like Skype or Zoom, a filming camera of some sort, a handheld or Rodecaster type recorder, and what system they use for editing everything all together but this would be my ideal set up situation. What does it look like to you? th-cam.com/video/jN6DiTSZY5A/w-d-xo.html
So from what I can glean from this video, it looks like they're using one of the mics I've recommended, so that's a start. It looks as if they're also using the dual functionality of these mics, so an XLR (balanced) connection into an interface or handheld recorder and likely just getting that very "clean" audio on each side and then sending it to each other for editing. The USB connection I see coming out of the microphone is likely going into their laptops via Zoom (I'm guessing) so that they can talk to each other and hear each other.
Their cameras are definitely setup off to the side and they're not using the Zoom or Skype video at all. I'm guessing they have cameras other than their phones, but you could put your phone on airplane mode and record with that off to the side.
They then have a multi-camera editing workflow in their post production. So basically, as one of them talks then you see it on camera. This is either a built-in function of something like Final Cut Pro (video editing software for MacOS), or someone is literally editing this multi-cam manually in post. They have an awesome setup though.
@@KevinRossRN Yes I agree. The only thing is how are they seeing each other? Cuz they're in diff houses and you can tell they're looking at a feed of some sort where they can see one another so that's where I thought they might be also utilizing a zoom call or Skype. Seems like a lot of moving parts😅 So what I'm guessing is that they have these cameras set up to record the visual video off to the side, then set up the mics to record through a handheld (but how can the handheld do a remote guest call so maybe a Rodecaster Pro?) then they utilize a Skype or Zoom call to view each other in realtime then they have someone take the video and audio and create some fancy edited video. Does that sound about right?
So as far as seeing each other, yes, they're likely doing this through Zoom and just using their webcams on their laptops to see each other. They likely don't care about the quality on their webcam footage, because I mean, you could look terrible, but as long as you can see each other to play off of that energy then that's fine.
I did a video on doing a remote setup with the very gear they're likely using: th-cam.com/video/02rJZ-iwxkI/w-d-xo.html
But, I'm pretty sure that they're just both recording locally to get a clean feed on each side. A Rodecaster Pro is nice and it does quite a bit, but you can get two handhelds for the price of the Rodecaster. I would say that there podcast takes about 4-5 hours to edit each episode. I could be wrong, but that's my guess because of bringing in the audio track (already edited), then laying in each camera angle, and syncing those up. Then, cutting the pieces they don't want, mishaps, pauses, etc., putting a color grade over the footage, render and then upload.
They may have streamlined a workflow that may cut down on some of this post production.
so good info thank you so much mate!
Glad it helped. Sending my best for your setup.
Mr. Ross, why would I still be getting feedback. My microphone picks up what my guest on Riverside.FM is saying????
What’s the current mic setup on your end?
@@KevinRossRN Thank you for the reply! I have the same mic you have in the video, the ATR 2100.
And are you just plugging into the computer directly, via USB? And how are you monitoring audio?
@@KevinRossRN I’m plugging into the computer directly via USB and then plugging the mic’s XLR into the Zoom H6. I also have a mono cable running from the Zoom H6 to the Macbook’s 3.5 out. I’m monitoring audio with headphones, which are plugged into the Zoom H6.
Ah, so you have the Zoom...Okay, and you’re positive you have a mono cable? Just one ring on the 1/4 inch end?
Quick question if anyone can help me out! I just recorded a video podcast a few days ago and my files were huge. Every 30 min of recording leaves me with 10gb. Is this normal? A full 2 hour podcast ended up being 15gb. Any advice you can give me would truly help. What are your file sizes like?
What did you record with and was this in 4K or 1080P?
@@KevinRossRN it was 1080 on an A7iii
Then that's definitely normal. As an example, filming on the a6400 at 4K 24fps, a 30(ish) minute podcast recording was 37GB. It adds up my friend. One of (many) obstacles when it comes to doing a video podcast. I have terabytes of footage on a server. Once you render the footage in your editor, you could certainly purge the raw video.
@@KevinRossRN ok i feel a little better now lol. Thanks, i appreciate it
Ha! Yeah, I get it. Hopefully you won't need a NAS/Server anytime soon 😜
Best of luck with your podcast. 🎧 🎤
Hey Kevin! I'm curious how do you get around the record limit on cameras? My podcast usually goes for almost 2 hours and my digital camera can only do a continuous 30 mins and then it stops.
Which camera do you have? Mine doesn’t have a limit, but just curious to see which one you have to see if you’d have an option to just connect it to your computer.
@@KevinRossRN I have the Fujfilm XT-3
That’s a great camera to set up as a webcam. This can be connected directly to your computer via USB (Windows may need a driver), and what I’d do is then use OBS studio to record that footage.
I literally just did that yesterday and today with my a6400 for a video review I’m doing.
@@KevinRossRN oh awesome! I also have the Zoom Podtrak P4 that I’ll use as an interface and recorder. I’ll test out the video quality for OBS today
Awesome. That P4 is a nice piece of kit.
Kevin on #10 you say atr 2100 is both source for in and out - wouldn’t the computer be the source out since the headphone jack is coming from computer into zoom h6(not from atr2100)?
Yes, good catch. This was an old workflow I used way back. However, folks were starting to have trouble with this because the newly manufactured ATR's had a slight difference with the headphone out capability.
In my previous video I mentioned that the ATR headphone volume button could be turned all the way down and that you could run your co-hosts track out of it and into the Zoom and not get any audio bleed from track 1 into track 2, but this apparently changed with newer models.
Appreciate the catch here. I updated it. I spent like 20+ hours making/editing this video and I think I just couldn't see or think straight at that point. 😀