Bomb & Heavy Could Have SAVED Knuckles Chaotix (and how they could come back.)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ย. 2024
- Yes. I made a video about these two silly robots. You'll be surprised just how much there is to say. These might be the most overlooked characters in the entire Sonic franchise...and they could have very well have saved Chaotix if given the chance.
SEGA's new motto: Missed Potential.
100% true
Too true
That ain't new
It ain't new... It was the case since late 90s.
New, that is and has been SEGA's motto for a while.
"I am Heavy Robot guy, and this... Is my Bomb."
Underrated comment.
“Ping ping!”
@@khodibritton8368 Watch your language.
Heavy (TF2)'s voice fits with Heavy (KC).
@@BofrabCry us a river
"Hello Knuckles it is us Heavy and Bomb"
"Why does Knuckles don't like Heavy and Bomb"
Why does this sound familiar.
@@Klonoahedgehog Knuckles Briefs
🎵 Heavy and bomb, au reviour 🎵
I don't know why but I read this in waspinators voice lmao
Champagne
Heavy and Bomb are the most important characters in the franchise, more crucial than even Sonic himself.
Finally, someone said it
Yes, I agree
Of course
To be honest heavy and bomb are likable than charmy.
I like to think Eggman spent a lot of time making Heavy and really considering how he could hinder the Chaotix, then at the last minute came to the conclusion he needed some explosive power, so he just took a random-ass unsentient Bomb from Starlight and gave it arms.
"ok, I got a heavy robot, what next.... Hmm... Oh shit I am out of time! Starline give me that bomb I need to make a badnik out of it!"
“I don’t want to end on a HEAVY note, cuz this video is the BOMB!”
-Game Apologist (2020)
I freaking love your comment and freaking hate 😆😆
In my eyes you will always be one of the greats
@@australiandr.nefario9004 thx. I just had to point out that quote.
@@hydrocityshark th-cam.com/video/HXMrrjfUKR4/w-d-xo.html
@@australiandr.nefario9004 Thanks, that really made my day!
I wasn't sure how you could make Heavy or Bomb interesting but the idea of them needing to rely on each other sounds really cool.
specially when you realize one can harm it's partner and the other one is basically invincible
@@Eldoofus Huh. Didn't even realise that. Thanks for that thought.
Heavy would be a hard-to-stop juggernaut who could plow through everything with the power of raw momentum, while Bomb would be a rolling ball of death who could spend rings to pull off a Michael Bay.
Heavy could use his arms to give his enemies a wicked haymaker or deliver his partner as an explosive present to any local badnik, while Bomb would get to do all kinds of crazy stuff related to EXPLOSIONS, like launching Heavy forward like a speeding bullet or bomb jumping.
@Johnny Winsky 2 bots XD
Like Cream and Cheese
I mean technically Heavy was in All Stars Racing Transformed.
SANDWICH
and Pyro
where which level? answer pass the gameplay link
@@alexandrecarneirocabral8807 it’s not heavy from this video, it’s the heavy from Team Fortress 2, yes, I am terrible at parties
Yeah was kind of an odd choice to redesign him into a Russian mercenary
Since I never played Chaotix before, the footage of you playing with both Heavy and Bomb almost made the game look to me like a cute little 32x game SEGA randomly made
As if it was something entirely original and from the ground up. No sonic characters, no mention of Knuckles, it just looked like it was just a simple newly made game that took advantage of the 32x hardware.
It's crazy how the game never has implied that Heavy and Bomb work together, it's never implied they hang out and help each other out. And yet, through just hacking the game for them to work together, everything just suddenly clicks. It just looks seamless, as if they were made for each other, as if it was a canon thing this whole time
Strange
@@thefrubblewarrior4678 isn't it? :)
You actually somehow convinced me that these characters have potential, and I'm ok with that, and I'm not ok with that.
I had an idea that modern versions of heavy and bomb could be powered by wisps, namely a grey quake wisp and a black bomb wisp, to have these two essentially have a symbiotic relationship with themselves - the wisps grant them power that far exceeds the above-average badnik, and in turn, they protect the wisps from harm. They could work in a gamma-style story, but without them dying at the end due to them fearing that eggman would simply recapture the wisps and build new, non-intelligent robots to put them in
I love it
Yeah! A genius idea!
Heavy could be a very early failed egg robo prototype... Since eggrobo is designed to have psuedo sentients..... And as we know certain powers can grant them true independence (sonic mania)
*sentience
The modern interpretation of these two characters can be found at Biscuitville? Seems legit.
Ad ends: Nick “here”
Ohhhhh. Makes a bit more sense.
They've apparently been hiding in Crate and Barrel by my reckoning.
This made my day
I'm just going to go ahead and spoil Christmas for some of you: Ray and Julie Sue are not getting videos for this marathon. I know they are part of the Archie Chaotix, but I got other stuff to talk about. They'll get their time to shine soon enough.
Can we get a Tikal video one day please??? :O no rush, just would love to see that
No problem
devastating have a nice day
One day can you do Julie-Su though, how I was introduced to the sonic world as a young girl was actually through Knuckles comics, and when I read them I enjoyed them but felt disconnected because all the characters in the random issues I read were guys, I felt like I couldn’t be apart of this amazing world for being a girl. But then one issue I read had Julie-Su in it and I was at the time just like “Who is that?!😮” Here was a female character who was pink and purple, but just as a badass as the main character and in someways was better. I got my father to buy me knuckles volumes just so I could read HER stories. I have since expanded to all Sonic comic media, and Sally because my favourite character, but you already did her and you did her amazing and it would just be wonderful for you to do a summery of her story and why she matters. I don’t know if you will actually read this, I don’t fully understand how commenting on popular TH-camr’s works, but if you do, thanks for reading my story. I really like your channel.
Disappointing, but it makes sense
"no one is asking for a review on the game!"
I'd like to see that.
Same
@@Some_Cat_ me too
At this point, you could tell me why a trashcan is a good character and I'd believe you. Your passion is contagious.
He is heavy robots guy, and that... is his bomb.
Well no but actually no
nice tf2 reference
@@LeBasth Thank you
Team Chaotix 2
Listen, if i had the skills to be able to make games i would 100% make a sonic fan game with these unused characters available.
0:48
Also, yes, I'd love to see Heavy and Bomb with rubber band get it's own gameplay in a 2D Sonic game. Of course they'd need their own level designs
Heavy and Bomb are so underrated.
Yeah true
Bruh
I didn't even know they existed until now and I already like them
Honestly this video has really convinced me that heavy and bomb should show up in IDW
Honestly love the thought that Heavy & Bomb were created to slow down and hinder the Chaotix, but they accidently gain sentience and choose to help the Chaotix instead.
Playing as Charmy with Heavy as your partner breaks the entire game. Including the Metal Sonic fight. Thank me later.
That's my favourite type of ship.
The broken meta one.
I love their designs so much. They didn’t even do much in game, but their faceless, cute designs are just so damn appealing to me
Call It a guilty pleasure but I actually did enjoy playing as one of them as a kid.
Me and my friends used to do a “Payload challenge” where you play as mighty and hold bomb through out the entire level. It was pretty fun and I kind of want to do it again.
@@ShibuNub3305 sounds so funny
Alright after watching this video I have come to the solid decision that I really wanna draw modern versions of these characters and their dynamic and personalities
What's stopping you?
@@bouncingdynamo3968 my lack of artistic ability
@@goldenlightning8842 nah, just do it!
I find it really fascinating that Heavy and Bomb seemed to have been designed to be "hindrances". They really do serve a cool mechanical purpose in the game they came from.
There was so much more to these two than I was expecting ngl
Heavy: "You took everything from me!"
Heavy King: "I don’t even know who you are!"
If SEGA isn't going to make a game staring Heavy and Bomb escaping Eggman than some loyal fan make a animated series about it. I may try to do it if it comes to it.
Go for it! I would watch it. Could see a fan game with that concept.
@@yoshimasterleader I may do it. Though I don't have alot of spare time also I need a animation channel. Though hopefully I can get better at animation and do it.
@@Help_Im_On_Fire I would love to see this happen someday.
It's a perfect team up. A guy why destroys everything around it, finding kinship with an indestructible robot. Neither can be un-roboticized as Heavy can't be cut, and bomb is too volitile.
Technically this is this "Bomb's" first appearance, but there were the Bomb badniks in games before this like Sonic 1 in Starlight Zone and Scrap Brain Zone
*You don't need the second this
Got to say, Gamma's story in adventure impacted me more than I realized. I have alot of sympathy for robots created fir nefarious reasons turning traitor and joining good guys or finding whats important to them. It also feels like Sonic encrouching on a megaman plotline which we could do more with since Robotnick's creations besides more egg pawns or him harnessing some ancient power.
I always found Heavy & Bomb hilarious, I love the idea that his too derpy robots escaped to try and screw over the Chaotix. I think it would be interesting to see if they are powered by flickies inside like the other badniks, I’d love it if they came back someday and when they died it would show the flicky flying out. XD
I honestly have a soft spot for the two doofy robots. I find them quite charming and oddly cute. Not sure if it is because they don't have faces along with having pretty simple designs which gives more room to the imagination. I would love to see them back in some way.
I like the idea of this heavy indestructible robot tethered to a light explosives robot as a game like they can swing another around, heavy could be like a wrecking ball and Bomb could slingshot themselves by having heavy standstill and having bomb run back and fire forward. Just rework Bomb exploding when he is hit to only when he is fired or thrown and give Heavy a good throwing arm so they could chuck Bomb up to high places and that seems like a fun game.
Leave it to Nick to make Heavy and Bomb likeable. You're a sorcerer, dude.
If they're brought back, being a two-for-one with the Combi mechanic is a must.
Huh, wasn't expecting to want a Heavy and Bomb spin off after watching this lol
Thank God for the SRB2 Chaotix mod for giving these two a lot more love as of late.
SRB2 Bomb is peak Bomb
It's really cool you talked about the two most underrated and forgotten Sonic characters, even their Archie history. 👍
"I can hear all your collective groaning and it fuels me"
I admire this man
Honestly so nice to see Chaotix plus I love this channel for it's quality not how quickly you throw out videos! Keep up the good work Game Apologist!
Im pretty sure that bomb appears as a reference in Sonic Mania too. I remember seeing them as a constellation in Stardust Speedway act 1.
sadly you're misremembering, i couldnt find any evidence of this online or in the files
@@DaGamingCore im pretty sure i got a screenshot of it on my switch, but im not sure how i would share that with you
looking back at the screenshot it seems like i misremembered - its act 1, not 2
Now I want this guy to do that Cat chick from the sonic fighting game.
On your survey, I voted for Heavy and Bomb. I go for the deep cut Sonic characters, and I knew your review wouldn't disappoint! ;)
we don't need a review, we need heavy and bomb
Man, the intro sure was heavy when he blew up.
I was going where's the main video. Since November has passed
wHeRe iS RaY
He’s not from chaotix
He's leaving the best for last obviously
@@rammy6050 I still feel like he should count tho
@@pestell66 last month was chaotic month ray didn’t appear in knuckles chaotic I don’t think he’s going to make a video about ray
@@rammy6050 it’s a joke tho
I like to think that Heavy and Bomb want to help, they're just terrible at it
"engaging metal sonic...just like old times!"
"Ping!"
Best intro so far
Someone needs to make a fan game or something for your Heavy and Bomb game idea, it’s just top tier stuff
I really like the concept of a game about two robots fleeing eggman's empire. The tether mechanic could be explained easily if they were captive, and the Levels can be the reverse of Sonic's, going from mechanical to tropical.
I honestly didn’t think of these characters besides them being cool but this videoopened my eyes it. This video and channel truly is a gift.
I already kinda liked heavy and bomb and thought they were kinda underrated but this vid game me a whole mother appreciation for them
This video made me realize heavy and bomb are awesome!! What If bomb can turn near by rings into fire rings and hurl them at enemies and these rings explode. But because they're rings they don't hurt the player or ally . And with heavily since he's a little simpler he can be a little slow but also when he falls he makes a shock wave that destorys every enemy on the ground and even opens item box's and even makes rings fall down so you can grab them. Also these characters can't drown. And if Bomb explodes underwater he can shoot himself out of it potentially. Maybe Heavy can be used like a wrecking ball. And he can maybe jump high thanks to those springy legs. I have alot of ideas for these cool bots thanks to this video. Toot toot Game Apologist, seeya in the next vid :)
Bomb is actually my favorite character in Chaotix (Except Wechnia of course) because he looks so cute! And I like explosions so, yeah.
Aw yes, wechnia, the stupid pallet swap of knuckles with the power of tails
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WHO'S WECHNIA?!?!?!?!?!?!
@@rodrigomorales563 a weird unused character that was where tails was from sonic crackers. He is a color swap of knuckles with mighty's pallet and as the same with ashura (green sonic glitch from sonic 2) fans named him and did stuff with him
@@wyattpeek429he is a glitch character
Honestly, I’d love to see these guys come back as playable characters. I love when games have a character that you can play as just to challenge yourself.
Well they aren't exactly challenges, there's an SRB2 mod that makes them playable!
I jumped a little when he said Elias lmao
0:20 I do, Mr Nick🥺
Heavy and Bomb are secretly the most important characters in Sonic history
Let's GO. We're getting hit back to back with you, Game Apologist. Also, I'm sorry about the chaotic questions. But also not, you're the Game Apologist
"Heavy and the Bomb" would make a great band name.
My intro to Heavy and Bomb was the end of the “Songoose” arc in the Archie comics that you mentioned. Since I knew squat about Knuckles Chaotix at the time, I thought they were comic original at first.
Honestly that freak out in the start has to be the best thing never
OK thats it this the best of these episodes! Seriously I am so glad you A.) decided to do these character essays and B.) Did one for Heavy and Bomb well done!
"Sally's brother Elias"
Huh. I see what they did there.
If it's an anagram of phonemes, is it an ananeme? Anaphone? Anaphoneme?
A game where these two robots escape from Dr. Robotnik's factory sounds like a solid game I would have a blast playing! I really want this game now...
So trying to beat knuckles chaotix with heavy and bomb
I’ve figured out that, while playing as heavy with bomb as a partner, you can get crazy height, because apparently when not holding a direction and having bomb hold still, you become nearly weightless, combine that with an upward throw, and since bomb gets thrown crazy far, you can get sick air and go up 3 screens with a single throw
And heavy does not get hirt by bombs explosions
I didn't think you would cover these two. Glad you did.
Cool, I never thought I'd see this topic in a video. Portal 2 had robots that remind me of Heavy and Bomb.
I didn't know that these two random robots had lore
A lot of people's favorite character was R2D2.
Therefore: Bomb and heavy would make the best duo.
Bomb and Heavy are good boys and you can't tell me otherwise. They deserve JUSTICE.
You know, the idea you mention about with Bomb and Heavy being reintegrated into the franchise via taking Orbot and Cubot's role in Sonic Colors and onward covers my major problem with how characters are handled in the series: characters are always introduced to cover one role and then are usually thrown off to the side instead of just reusing characters. I think Heroes had the right idea by bringing back Team Chaotix (or at least three of the members) instead of just making a new team all together. Not to say they shouldn't introduce new characters, as I'm all for that nor do I think they should bring back characters that are dead within the universe (Like Tikal and Gamma), but I would also like the folks over at Sega to use the characters they already have at hand. Want Blaze to have a buddy in Rush Adventure? Just bring back Cream. Want to have another powerhouse in the series that isn't Knuckles? Use Mighty. Want a third protag in Forces alongside Sonic and the avatar? Just make it Shadow, they ended up using him after the game's release.
My apologizes for the little tangent, it's just something that came to mind when you brought the idea up.
In 10 years, Fans of this wonderful youtuber would cry for the video that they have been waiting for...
Fludding comment sections with one single phrase: "WhERe ArE YoU???1!"
I quit the Archie comics before they brought back the original Heavy and Bomb in those new bodies. I NEVER KNEW THEY CAME BACK! I always hated how they treated those characters and how unceremoniously they were killed off in #102, so hearing this makes me much happier.
Gammas walking animation is based on heavys
Betting the next video will focus on the characters that were members of the Chaotix in the comics. Those being Julie-Su, Ray, and Saffron.
Maybe a video that goes more in depth about the Chaotix in the Archie comics.
I feel like I heard of Bomb and Heavy a long time ago, and I didnt really play Sonic games as a kid.
heavy and bomb are awesome. explodes, doesn't die, immortal.
Just play the Chaotix mod in Sonic Robo Blast 2.
Both Heavy and Bomb gets a massive glow up with their moves.
The former becomes like Wario from Warioland, while the latter becomes a rocket jump character. They even have Heavy and Demoman's easter egg.
I like heavy and bomb. I just don't like when I have to work with them. Good video as always Nick!
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I just want all the old characters to be acknowledged again. Bring these boiz bacc
4:54 that make sense and they are builded specifically to make repairs, something pretty rare when most of Eggman badnicks are for combat, are maintance bots and the only other 2 with that role are Orbot and Cubot.
PD: besides Orbot and Cubot are the only 2 sentients robot that Eggman made in propourse, all the other reach sentience and go on the loose like Gamma and Metal Sonic(this one even don't act betrayed him anymore, it continue being sentient and rebels in lesser extent, like in Sonic Free Riders were participate in the event in a disguise)
I remember first seeing them in the Sonic Select comic collection for the first time and then reading the Comic Encyclopedia just to see they turned evil, died, and then came back good. I was so confused
Groaning? Not hardly, I was laughing my A$$ off. Your humor is all kinds of to my taste.
in the hypothetical bomb & heavy game, bomb could detonate on command to send heavy flying at a high speed since heavy is indestructible.
That's actually genius! I love it!
Really should have thought about at least scripting vids in advance. Even so, great stuff as always mate. Keep up the good work!
Wow, people’s OCD really wants ALL the chaotix to be talked about huh?
Joke aside, keep up the quality uploads
I've never played knuckles chaotix and now I really want to do a playthrough with just Heavy and Bomb!
I totally have the issue with bomb on the cover!!!!!!! Wow. Totally forgot this issue.
I now love heavy and bomb.
Thank you for making this video.
Not surprised heavy and bomb were destroyed without the characters caring...they were ruining Ken Pender's fanfiction.
"Dear Heavy
how do you type with boxing gloves for hands?
With crap"
-Karen
Very nice video, it's so neat to see you covering these obscure and forgotten characters. Would love to see them appear again in a sonic mania sequel
Finally a Heavy and Bomb video. Eh whatever, where's Honey the Cat?
can't wait for your proper final Chaotix video. I got a 32x and Chaotix sometime in 95 or 96 after the 32x was clearanced for 20 bucks; I was like 12, and I /wanted/ the game after having seen it in magazines (and even despite whatever bullshit review GamePro gave it back in the day, I don't remember the "percent" or however they measured a game's quality, but I remember the color of the scorebox was like pink, which was somewhere around 20 or 30 percent lol).
I have unironically loved the game from the first time I played it. It's not perfect, but it's nowhere near as bad as everyone makes it out to be, and once you know how to play it properly, you can tear through the stages. I do wish it were bigger, I do wish it had been a little more fleshed-out, but I'm happy to have experienced it at all... the music is also fantastic.
It is in my top 3 favorite games of the Sonic series, unironically. I think it was a wonderful experiment/evolution after S3&K. Years ago when I pretended I might have the time or energy to do 'videogame reviews on youtube,' Chaotix was always at the top of my list, simply because it seems like nobody ever has anything good to say about it, yet it's a genuinely wonderful part of the franchise if you have the patience to understand it.
Friendly reminder that these two still got more votes than Charmy
A Heavy & Bomb sling ring game honestly sounds really fun
if I ever do play chaotix, this pair is probably how I'll do it
Do you have time to talk about are lord and savior vector the crocodile
He already did. He’s done everyone except Ray and Julie-Su.
@@rosieg6989 once isn't enough
Me XD
@@rosieg6989 you fool he didnt mean vector he meant our lord and saviour vector smh
Dorime🙏🐊